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Inflation

Biden Warns Companies To Bring 'Prices Back Down' Even as Inflation Persists

The president touted the lower annualized inflation rate but blamed the companies themselves for higher prices, rather than government policies.

Joe Lancaster | 11.29.2023 3:15 PM

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President Joe Biden delivers remarks from the White House announcing the Council on Supply Chain Resilience. | Chris Kleponis - CNP/CNP / Polaris/Newscom
(Chris Kleponis - CNP/CNP / Polaris/Newscom)

This week, the White House announced the launch of a Council on Supply Chain Resilience, created with the hope to "strengthen America's supply chains" and "lower costs for families."

Kinks in the supply chain are indeed partly to blame for the persistent inflation that has dogged American consumers for more than two years now. While inflation has fallen in recent months, the annualized rate remains over 3 percent; so-called "core inflation," which excludes food and energy, was at an annualized rate of 4 percent in October, double the Fed's target rate.

President Joe Biden delivered remarks from the White House on Monday to announce the new council's creation. He touted the lower inflation rate and falling grocery prices but admonished American companies for, in his view, not going far enough.

"Let me be clear: To any corporation that has not brought their prices back down—even as inflation has come down, even as supply chains have been rebuilt—it's time to stop the price gouging," Biden warned, imploring them to "giv[e] the American consumer a break."

.@POTUS: "To any corporation that has not brought their prices back down, even as inflation has come down, even as supply chains have been rebuilt – it's time to stop the price gouging." pic.twitter.com/IeKnLJjn7W

— The Hill (@thehill) November 27, 2023


The next day, White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre doubled down on Biden's warning, responding to a reporter's question about "price gouging" by saying that "the president's gonna continue to use his bully pulpit to call it out."

But Biden and Jean-Pierre are mistaken and seem to be confusing deflation with disinflation. The latter, as defined by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis, is "a decrease in the rate of inflation," while the former is "a sustained decrease in the price level of goods and services."

Inflation has indeed declined for more than a year: In June 2022, inflation hit 9.1 percent, the highest single-month spike in over four decades. Between June 2022 and October 2023, the annualized inflation rate fell to 3.2 percent, a decrease of nearly two-thirds.

But that doesn't mean prices are falling. After all, a 3.2 percent annual rate still means that prices were 3.2 percent higher in October 2023 than they were in October 2022. And it's not expected to get better anytime soon, as Federal Reserve forecasts estimate core inflation will still be at 2.6 percent at the end of 2024.

Democrats have blamed "corporate greed" for the rise in inflation since 2021, even coining the term "greedflation" to describe it. But this doesn't explain why so many companies suddenly decided to be greedy just as the COVID-19 pandemic caused supply chain snafus and two successive presidential administrations spent trillions of dollars in record time.

But the intended audience for Biden's warning may not be corporations, but voters. "[Biden] needs to show voters that he's not just working to lower prices, he's fighting to do it," a Democratic strategist told The Messenger's Dan Merica. "Punching corporations for their record profits is a great way to show his economy isn't done, it's still a work in progress."

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Joe Lancaster is an assistant editor at Reason.

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  1. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago

    Fuck Joe Biden

    1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

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    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Fuck Joe Biden

    3. Chumby   2 years ago

      Fuck Joe Biden

    4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

      If this illegitimate administration were serious about lowering prices , they would all commit suicide.

  2. Stuck in California   2 years ago

    >brought their prices back down—even as inflation has come down

    Fuck that is ignorant. This dude is so fucking embarrassing.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      I have a friend who never took calculus, in high school or college.

      When he tries to talk about some of the pretty basic concepts of that level of math, it's very clear that he doesn't understand it whatsoever. He seems to think that derivatives and integrals are ways of estimating answers, rather than converting data from one form to another.

      And if you try to try to explain it in a way that's common-sense relatable, like the difference between position, speed, and acceleration, he gets very confused by this. He doesn't understand the relationship or why it matters. Biden seems to be in a similar situation.

      Because cost is like position, and inflation is a rate of change, so it's more like speed, or even acceleration. Slowing down the car doesn't take you back to where you started.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        No, but that would be a good idea for an analogy.

        "You're in the car. You put your foot on the gas, and ten seconds later, you're doing 20. Another ten seconds, 40. You reduce the pressure on the gas, and twenty seconds later you're at 60.

        You reduce pressure again, enough to stay at 60. That's "zero percent acceleration". You aren't going any slower until you accelerate in the opposite direction and actually reduce the speed."

        1. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

          Honestly a really good analogy.

          1. defaultdotxbe   2 years ago

            I think a better example of inflation to prices is like saying the car has slowed from 60mph to 40mph, but is still going in the same direction. To reduce prices the car would need to slow to a stop, then start moving in reverse.

            1. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

              Also good.

            2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago (edited)

              Still too complex for your average wokie college student. It needs to be more like this……

              https://vimeo.com/171088108

              Amd I still think it will need to be dumbed down for most democrats. Like the ones running the administration.

        2. B G   1 year ago

          This is my hypothesis on why so many leftists resist the idea of encouraging more students entering college to pursue STEM fields (or insist on adding "arts" and pretending that "STEAM" is more or less the same thing).

          The comprehension of higher-order effects which comes with competency in calculus and "higher" levels of mathematics is anathema to getting people to "buy in" on progressive economic dogma. Progressive theory is rooted in the idea that first-order impacts of doing something are the only effects which happen and take place in a complete vacuum.

          In their thinking, handing piles of cash to poor individuals "lifts them out of poverty" beause in that moment they have more money in their hand but it's never considered to be a flaw that this will only be the case in months where those payments are repeated. The closest to "higher order" thinking in play is when they point out that it's "stimulating" more "growth" because those people have to spend all of the money in the short term, but that also means that they're not able to derive any long-term benefit from such hand-outs since none is ever saved against a possible emergency or invested toward any kind of self-reliant future.

          One even bigger shortcoming in the "progressive" policy agenda is the idea that they're "battling inequality" and trying to reduce "concentration of wealth", while also attempting to put a "fair share" of the total tax burden on the wealthy (who are sometimes conflated with the "rich" and other times not, but most believers can't tell which is which). Crafting a policy agenda which might actually be effective toward either of those stated goals might be possible, but it would require some understanding of how people actually get to be either rich, or wealthy, or both, and very few, if any of them actually understand that part of the world. The "progressive" policy agenda demands a slate of economic policies which tend to increase inflation (in many cases, signs of inflation are used as the proof that a particular item is "working"), but includes no recognition as to how that inflation actually drives increases in wealth concentration and increases overall inequality by increasing barriers to the "have nots" gaining access to the "ownership" class. It's little wonder they think that the "system is rigged" when they're blinded to how counter-productive their own "solutions" are in terms of their stated objectives and don't want anyone else to learn how to comprehend why the more the left "wins" the farther from "victory" they tend to get.

      2. NM Dave   2 years ago

        Excellent analogy. If inflations goes to zero, prices will merely cease rising, but they won't drop. That would be deflation, and if you think inflation is damaging, just wait until you see deflation.

        1. charliehall   2 years ago

          Idiots here want deflation. That shows that they flunked all their economics courses.

          1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

            Dur hur!

          2. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

            Would you rather have a controlled deflation or it to happen all at once as a surprise? Or are you just hoping it doesn't happen until after you are dead?

          3. Minadin   2 years ago

            The only idiot here calling for deflation is President Joe Biden.

          4. ElvisIsReal   2 years ago

            Yes, everybody knows Americans would just starve to death waiting for prices to go down -- that's why nobody ever buys a new phone until they absolutely need one.

          5. NOYB2   2 years ago

            Idiots here want deflation. That shows that they flunked all their economics courses.

            Deflation is a good thing for most people.

            It's bankers and politicians who hate it.

            1. Squirrelloid   2 years ago

              Deflation encourages hoarding cash in mattresses, and kills investment in future production (because that future production is worth less than just holding cash). It's not a good thing.

              1. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

                Deflation encourages hoarding cash in mattresses and kills investment in future production

                The only reason money deflates in the first place is because others are making investments in the economy and making future production cheaper.

                If you choose to hoard your money in a mattress, you are saying “I don’t know how to beat the investments more knowledgeable people are making”. Your choice not to use your money means that more knowledgeable investors need to invest less to get the same effect. It’s similar to investing in a hypothetical ETF that contains the entire economy, but without the overhead and inefficiencies of actually managing such an ETF.

                Inflation in the presence of a growing economy, on the other hand, causes people to make investments they shouldn’t be making. That's because inflation in the presence of a growing economy is a massive government intervention in prices. That causes bubbles and crashes. This is in addition to the corrupting first pass effect of inflation caused by issuing fiat money.

                Deflation is the natural state for a growing free market economy with sound money; it is economically efficient. Fiat money with artificially created inflation and a growing economy (like we have) is corrupt, inefficient, and crash-prone.

          6. CE   1 year ago (edited)

            Anyone with a lot of cash wants deflation.

            People who owe a lot of money want inflation.

          7. B G   1 year ago

            Anyone who truly believes that inequality is the biggest problem SHOULD want deflation. The short deflationary periods we've experienced have been the only times in the last century when the GINI ratio actually went down at all (along with all of the other effects that came with it).

            Instead, the people who claim to oppose inequality cheered on the time from 2009-2019 when the Fed printed more mew dollars relative to the size of the economy than what was done in Weimarr Germany. Then when the Fed did it again in 2020-2022 the only complaint from the left was that it wasn't enough. Now those people think that "corporate greed" is the only imaginable source of inflation in a world where 90% of the M1 money supply wouldn't be old enough to get a driver's license.

            I'm not advocating any particular policy in this post, just pointing out that for those who truly want to reach a particular destination, there's the path that'll get you there, and there's the path that you insist on taking, and those two aren't pointed in the same direction.

      3. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

        The various fads in elementary, middle and high school math education are mostly to blame. Kids find math to be hard and their parents can't help with the homework. My son was being taught "Ladder Division". The concept is too stupid to explain so if you haven't encountered or suffered through it yourself just trust me. It sucks.

        Suffice to say the method is drastically different from how I learned. Instead of giving up like I suspect most parents do I called the boss and told him I'd be late to work the next day. I ambushed the teacher and made her show me how it's supposed to work. I called it retarded and said my son was going to do division the old way and she was going to accept it. She backed down, I'm kind of an asshole, and now he's in college and will get a minor in mathematics. He's majoring in engineering.

        I doubt he'd have gotten that far if I hadn't gone in and told off the teacher. He'd be struggling with concepts like inflation along with the rest of the people because he wouldn't get the math.

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          He's going to turn 48 in 2 weeks.

          1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago (edited)

            Ah, your friend. I get it now. Had to go back and re read your post.

            So he was in school in the late 90s... not sure what maths they were teaching then.

        2. jimc5499   2 years ago

          When my Nephew was in High School I used to help him with his Math. His Mother, my Sister, got called in by his teacher and was asked about who was helping him. When she said that I was, she was told to have me stop helping or she would fail him. When my Sister asked what was wrong she was told that he wasn't doing the problems the way she wanted them done. I was doing them the same way that I was taught in college and in the same way that was shown in his textbook. She said that the textbook was only being used as a source of problems. I asked for an appointment to come in and have her show me how she wanted them done, but, she refused.

          1. MrMxyzptlk   1 year ago

            Yeah, I didn't ask. I waited outside her classroom door in my Unibomber hat and sunglasses.

            I don't do polite when it come to people living off my tax money. Except cops. They have guns and the power to shoot me in the face for no good reason. Sort of the armed society is a polite society. No guns in schools.

        3. Dave Evad   1 year ago

          "Ladder division" is a method of finding the least common multiple of two numbers, not dividing one by the other.
          If you don't understand math yourself you don't need to be helping your student, and I'm sure you experience other issues in your life. I highly suggest you consider remedial work at your local community college.

          1. MrMxyzptlk   1 year ago

            Ladder Division is inherently flawed to try and teach to elementary aged students.

            While the child is pileing up numbers on the ladder they need to keep those numbers carefully in the right columns or else they will not add them together correctly.

            Since the schools don't teach handwriting or even cursive the kids handwriting is horrible and they will inevitably put one of the numbers on the ladder in the wrong column and get the wrong answer.

            Unless the teacher shows them how to use graph paper to keep their columns strait on the ladder and goes over each problem and show the kids where they put the number in the wrong column the child only learns that math is hard.

            The traditional method of division dispenses with the unnecessary stack of numbers in the "ladder" so the poor handwriting is less of an issue leading to fewer errors.

            As an adult with good handwriting I can easily use the ladder method, but why bother since I have the multiplication tables memorized and don't need the crutch. The traditional method even allows me to do long division in my head while ladder division doesn't work for doing math in your head.

            When he was being taught ladder division I had my son do his homework first using the ladder method and then using the traditional method.

            He got every problem wrong using ladder division and every problem right using the traditional method. A contemporary of his failed math for two years until her mother put her in a Christian school where they taught traditional division. She rapidly improved in math and now she is in nursing school.

            My son now part time tutors kids in math and the first thing he does is repair the ladder division damage. After that their scores improve greatly.

            Ladder Division is just a horrible idea. It only exists so teachers have an excuse to go to all expense paid conferences where they are shown stupid ideas and call them "new educational tools." I have a younger brother and sister who are teachers. I find out a lot of interesting things about the government school industry from them.

      4. CE   1 year ago

        Liberals have never understood calculus. To them everything is addition or subtraction, or maybe division when they're talking about your money and how much they are going to give away for you.

    2. Flaco   2 years ago

      I'm sure he (or his speechwriters) know better. But they also know at least 40% of the voters will cheer for it.

    3. NM Dave   2 years ago

      If inflation stalls out completely, prices will remain high, as the underlying components of products do NOT go down, they will only remain at their elevated levels. Biden is even more of an idiot that I realized.

      1. rbike   2 years ago

        Come on man, you knew this.

    4. Sevo   2 years ago

      "...Fuck that is ignorant. This dude is so fucking embarrassing."

      He's got turd convinced, but that's a pre-school level bar. If you know what I mean, and I think you do.

      1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        Turd? You mean the troll here?
        I'd say he doesn't have him convinced of anything. He's completely disingenuous.

        Like a lot of forumites, that dude's entire reason for posting here is to be an asshole and make people respond, rather than discuss the real issues. Say something ridiculous and contrary, then be an obstinate asshole about it for as many posts as possible.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          Why does his name end in 2?

          1. Minadin   2 years ago

            He smelled it and dealt it?

  3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    "Let me be clear: To any corporation that has not brought their prices back down—even as inflation has come down, even as supply chains have been rebuilt—it's time to stop the price gouging," Biden warned, imploring them to "giv[e] the American consumer a break."

    This libertarian prefers his populism off the hoof, not grown in a lab.

  4. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

    Politicians lie to deflect blame, take unearned credit and grab more power and money. News at 11.

    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      Is it innumeracy, or mendacity? Possibly both!

  5. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    Democrats have blamed "corporate greed" for the rise in inflation since 2021, even coining the term "greedflation" to describe it.

    They see companies increase prices, workers demand more pay, labor costs rising resulting in increased prices, and call it a spiral based upon corporate greed.

    They willfully ignore the decrease in the value of money due to the increase in supply.

    1. EdG   2 years ago

      The dollar is worth more today than it was 3 years ago.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Not in terms of any of the things I want or need to buy with dollars it isn't.

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        Receipts from the grocery store would beg to differ.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          This EdG is so perfectly wrong I want to think it's some kind of parody.

          1. Homer Thompson   2 years ago

            or works for the government

            1. Apollonius   2 years ago

              You say that as if you think there's some kind of difference between the two.

            2. markm23   1 year ago

              If it's a parody, he'll admit it. If he works for the government, he'll keep on lying to protect his paycheck.

            3. CE   1 year ago

              Or is a Biden campaign bot.

            4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

              Who do you think is still stupid enough to vote for Biden?

        2. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

          Got to agree with Sarc on this one.

      3. DesigNate   2 years ago

        Lol, how do you figure?

        1. charliehall   2 years ago

          The value of the dollar is expressed in terms of other currencies. And it is overall worth more today than it was at any time under Trump.

          https://www.statista.com/statistics/655224/conversion-rate-of-major-currencies-to-the-us-dollar/

          You don't notice that in large part because Trump's stupid trade wars continue to disrupt supply chains and Trump's stupid tariffs continue to make it impossible for US consumers and businesses to take advantage of the strong dollar. Trump's economic policies were DESIGNED to csuse inflation and it is to Biden's descredit that he didn't end the trade wars immediately.

          1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

            So the dollar is fine well against a carefully picked basket of foreign currencies all suffering from the same idiocy in government of running the printing presses at full speed.

            That's not impressive.

            1. ElvisIsReal   2 years ago

              "We're not winning the race to the bottom!"

          2. Squirrelloid   2 years ago

            No, the value of the dollar is expressed in shit you can buy with it. Currencies are a fiction used to represent value. Only when you convert that fiction into real stuff can you measure its actual value.

            Converting between competing fictions is just intellectual masturbation.

            1. BYODB   2 years ago

              A more perfect destruction of that idiotic narrative I cannot imagine.

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                Wasted words. Charlie is incredibly stupid. Of course, this is why he’s a democrat.

      4. NM Dave   2 years ago

        This is satire, right?

      5. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

        Compared to what? Even the Mexican Peso is performing better than the dollar. Expats South of the border are not happy

        1. charliehall   2 years ago

          See the link in my earlier comment.

          1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

            Why bother. I'm sure you can find all sorts of bullshit blaming Trump for everything to post.

          2. damikesc   2 years ago (edited)

            $100 in 2019 (just four years ago) is worth $120 now.

            The value is objectively below where it was under Trump.

            https://www.in2013dollars.com/us/inflation/2019#:~:text=The%20U.S.%20dollar%20has%20lost%2017%25%20its%20value,today%2C%20producing%20a%20cumulative%20price%20increase%20of%2020.34%25.

      6. CE   1 year ago

        What? Even according to the official CPI numbers, one dollar in October 2020 is worth 85 cents now.

    2. NM Dave   2 years ago

      By that logic, corporations weren't greedy until a bit after Biden took office, which is pure bullshit. Corporations are always greedy but their ability to raise prices is controlled by the markets. Except for drugs, which are granted a monopoly by the government with no market constraints on prices.

      1. creech   2 years ago

        True, and that means Biden is admitting corporation greed was held in check under Cartoon Villain and only got loose under his own incompetent administration.

        1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

          That's a funny way of looking at it.

          1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

            The world becomes a funny and terrifying place when you apply leftist logic consistently.

      2. charliehall   2 years ago

        Patent protection

    3. CE   1 year ago

      And somehow they don't call it "union greed" or "employee greed."

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        And yet for all Biden’s bullshit, he and his coven of democrats are the largest recipients of corporate largesse.

  6. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    Only spittin tobackey is up 10¢.

  7. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    Cheesy-Poof Price Index holding steady since the 1980’s:

    According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s most recent figures, in 2022, U.S. consumers spent an average of 11.3% of their disposable personal income on food. That was 1% higher than what Americans spent in 2021; it’s a similar amount to what households were spending during the 1980s, according to the USDA.

    https://money.usnews.com/money/personal-finance/saving-and-budgeting/articles/how-much-should-i-spend-on-groceries#:~:text=Coming%20up%20with%20saving%20strategies,disposable%20personal%20income%20on%20food.

    (relative to income)

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "SPITTIN TABACCY RIG COUNT!!!"

    2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      You are touting a 1% decline in purchasing power relative to food as "no big deal"? Seriously?

      Also snack foods have been one type of which has experienced steep increases in price over the last three years.

      1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

        People can always eat cake…

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Americans spent 17% of their income on food in 1980 and only 11.3% today.

        1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

          Lies, Damn Lies and Statisitics.

          In the 80s and greater percentage of income was spent on fresh products and far less on cheep processed food made with too much salt, sugar and fat. In the 80s the obesity rate was lower. In the 80s kids were more active and thus required more food to refuel.

          I was a teenager in the early 80s so I know this personally.

          Now kids eat cheep processed food high in sugar, salt and cheep fats. The obesity rate is through the roof and kids sit in front of screens and think the outside is a kind of punishment.

          If you try to feed your family on fresh foods, keep the salt, sugar and fats low, and make sure the kids go outside to play frequently you pay more then 11% of your income on food. But if you feed them Mac and Cheese from the box, hot pockets and pizza rolls you can get by on the cheep.

          1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

            >I was a teenager in the early 80s so I know this personally.

            Is this a sock from one of the guys I have muted? Or a new troll?

            Whatever. Data is not the plural of Anecdote.

            1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

              What data? Two statistics in a vacuum aren't useful data, it's just lying with statistics.

              Compare the actual diets of Americans in the 1980s and in the 2020s. Compare what the typical shopping basket contained. Compare the lifestyles of the 1980s and the 2020s. That's 40 years of change, mostly for the worse.

              1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

                >What data?

                My point. What data?

                Your statement was an anecdote. The other statements in your post are also anecdotal as you've provided no data.

                I'm sure there are data out there, but there are none here.

                1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

                  Are you seriously trying to argue that the cheep quick box meals filled with high fructose corn syrup, saturated fats and way too much salt that take up half the supermarket shelves were as prevalent in the 1980s as they are today? Are you trying to argue that children were just as overweight in the 1980s as they are today? Are you serious trying to argue that the diet and lifestyle for the majority of Americans was the same in 1980 as it is today?

                  It's not anecdotal evidence. It's fact demonstrated by multiple studies. Proving this fact should be like proving the law of gravity. Totaly unnecessary.

                  Do you need a slew of studies to show you that men and women are different?

                  Some things are just so obvious that you don't need a guy with Doctor before his name to tell you.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    3. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      Your #DefendBidenAtAllCosts shtick is so weak, even most Dems aren't convinced.

      Only 24% of Democrats say they are better off financially under Biden, poll says

      1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

        Look. I'll help you out. Here's another pro-Biden line you could try.

        *cracks fingers*

        "Hey! Voters! Remember how bad you did in year 2 of #Bidenomics? Well, year 3 hasn't been quite so bad, right?"

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Right wing CBS.

          CBS News
          @CBSNews
          Americans need an extra $11,400 today just to afford the basics.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            But due to Bidenflation, $11,400 isn’t worth nearly as much as to used to be so this isn’t bad. Something something Trump something something.

            - Pluggo

    4. Chumby   2 years ago

      Why is there a 2 after your name?

      Why do you cruise airport men’s rooms?

    5. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    6. damikesc   2 years ago

      Out of curiosity, just as with how they measure inflation, unemployment, etc --- did they change how they measure the metric of what is spent on food since the 1980's?

      I'm betting...yes.

      1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

        In the 1980s people had a different diet. Their shopping carts were filled with different foods than today. My mother worked but still our meals were scratch made. My friends ate the same way. The supermarket shelves simply did not have the cheep boxed meals filled with high fructose corn syrup, salt and trans fats. So a grocery cart would have more expensive fresh produce in it. Today's shopping cart is filled with boxed Mac and cheese, boxed hamburger helper, frozen pre-made pizza rolls and the like. These products are cheaper than fresh vegetables and fruit. Thus the cart is cheaper, relative to 1980s prices.

        Lies, damn lies and statistics.

  8. Demosthenes of Athens   2 years ago

    To Paraphrase Thomas Sowell: Why is it corporate greed to want to make a profit, but not corporate generosity to turn a loss?

  9. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

    Another bit of evidence that we being governed by complete morons.

  10. Chumby   2 years ago

    Did inflation go negative where prices should be dropped?

    1. EdG   2 years ago

      Did you suffer a brain fart when you wrote your ignorant comment?

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Do you have any idea what "inflation" means?

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Gotta be parody.

      3. Chumby   2 years ago

        No, I wasn’t channeling you or pluggo.

      4. damikesc   2 years ago

        If your money loses value at 3% a year and then goes to losing it at only 1% a year...the money is not more valuable.

        Do you handle budgeting for the federal government? Your idiocy seems to be reflected in federal budgets,

      5. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

        I suspect that was an example of sarcasm. A subtle form of humor that the rest of us understood. Clearly, you did not.

      6. CE   1 year ago (edited)

        Inflation comes in at 10%. Companies raise prices by 10%. Inflation comes in at 5% the next year. Guess what, they raise prices by 5%, they don’t cut prices.
        Inflation fell by 50%, but prices went up by 5%.

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      No.

  11. Dismalist   2 years ago

    Biden seems to propound a "conspiracy theory of society" [Karl Popper's term]. He must believe that many voters agree. In that sense, and only that very limited sense, Biden is smart.

    On the demerits of the greed case, those nasty corporations must be really stupid because they didn't raise prices much earlier! 🙂

  12. Djea3   2 years ago

    With regard to food prices. I purchase the same things on a regular cycle. I do not include sundries in those purchases. They are staple food products only. I do not purchase extravagant foods at all.
    My 5 week cycle of staple food purchases is up over 45%.
    If I consider my fresh produce and other necessities, it is up 45% as well.
    Milk and eggs have held. Cheap cheeses that are actually fake have held with milk. Real cheese is up over 50%. We could not afford a turkey this year at 3.00 a pound or so. When Biden took office I was purchasing organic turkey at about 1.25 a pound.
    Biden has no idea what he is talking about when it comes to supply chain. Hell, even the futures market holds the prices high at this time! Why isn't he attacking the futures markets and telling them to go loose billions?

    1. EdG   2 years ago

      Good job, Djea3. You just proved Biden is right. The cost of your staple food purchases rose more than the inflation rate, which means producers are jacking up prices more than necessary. Bravo, sir. Bravo.

      1. Zeb   2 years ago

        Do you have any idea how the inflation rate is calculated?

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          I'm a bit surprised he is able to type on a computer.

        2. Bruce Hayden   2 years ago

          Miscalculated you mean. The BLS just switched from calculating healthcare costs in their market basket, to calculating insurance company gross margins (misleadingly called “Retained Earnings”), which are the difference between what these companies take in, in premiums, and spend. Since this is a large component in their calculation of inflation, a negative number there pretty much wipes out their inflation calculation. Of course, what they ignore in using their Retained Earnings is that they are guaranteed to underestimate inflation, because they are effectively price locked, due to forcing everyone to buy their healthcare insurance through the government’s Healthcare Exchange, which only allows premiums to rise ounce a year.

      2. Enemy of the State   2 years ago

        There's so much economic ignorance contained in your post that there's not enough time or interest on my part to debunk it...

      3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Gotta be parody

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

          Parroty

      4. NM Dave   2 years ago

        That's not even close to how it works. Inflation affects different products to different degrees. Any moron should know this, and yet, you don't.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          He’s the one wearing the helmet on the short bus.

          1. Apollonius   2 years ago

            . . .and being called Dummy by the other passengers.

      5. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

        You were taught on Ladder Division, weren't you.

        1. MK Ultra   2 years ago

          Nicely done.

      6. MK Ultra   2 years ago

        This has to be parody, right?

      7. Sevo   2 years ago

        Good job, EdG. You just proved what a fucking lefty ignoramus you are.

      8. Chumby   2 years ago

        Special Ed

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Instead of being a horse, of course, this Ed is just a horse's ass.

          1. Apollonius   2 years ago

            Your comment is endorsed.

          2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Don’t nag him.

      9. ElvisIsReal   2 years ago

        This is so dumb, I don't know where to start, other than repeating the statement that it's so dumb.

        1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

          When faced with monumental stupidity one can only stare at the moron and be glad ones own mother didn't routinely drop oneself on the head.

      10. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        You really are too stupid to function. Check yourself in at your local vet to be put down. Or have your owners take you, clearly they did a poor job training you.

        Like SQRLSY, you’re probably not even housebroken.

  13. AT   2 years ago (edited)

    President Joe Biden delivered remarks from the White House on Monday to announce the new council’s creation. He touted the lower inflation rate and falling grocery prices but admonished American companies for, in his view, not going far enough.

    He then shook hands with an invisible person, fell up the stairs, deposited a check from China into his savings account, and put Hunter in charge of making it a white Christmas.

    1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

      That last part doesn’t necessarily involve cocaine (shudders).

  14. jack murphy   2 years ago

    good lord he is a dunce. this is not dementia...it's good old fashioned ignorance. if he wants to make a difference TODAY he can waive all wage withholding for a few months. he likes his executive orders...HAVE AT IT ASSHOLE!

    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      I adore this idea. Abolish withholding! Make everyone write a big fat check come tax time!

      Also, move Tax Day to October 15th, right before elections.

      1. Enemy of the State   2 years ago

        Or move election day to April 16th...

        1. NOYB2   2 years ago

          Move election day to the Sunday after April 15. That way, working people have an easier time voting, and religious people can go right after church.

        2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          This all gets much easier if we euthanize our Marxists.

      2. Rossami   2 years ago

        Completely agree. Possibly as a constitutional amendment so future congresses can't hide their rape and pillage.

      3. NM Dave   2 years ago

        If withholding were abolished and we had to pay our taxes with money we saved up during the year, there would be a violent, armed revolution in this country. Not a bad idea, really.

        1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

          Well, that is how it used to be.
          When withholding was instituted, the feds gained cash flow, and the banks lost a major revenue stream.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_Tax_Payment_Act_of_1943

        2. charliehall   2 years ago

          I will make sure to shoot you first.

          1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

            You've dropped to the pointless spam level. Bye bye.

      4. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

        Here here! Capital idea chum!

    2. NOYB2   2 years ago

      good lord he is a dunce. this is not dementia…it’s good old fashioned ignorance

      Unfortunately, "prices are high due to greedy corporations" makes sense to a large percentage of US voters and that's why Democrats are pushing that lie. Democratic politicians simple don't care whether it's true or not, they care whether it gives them votes.

      That is, the "good old fashioned ignorance" at the root of this is the economic ignorance of voters. Biden's talking points just take advantage of it.

      1. jack murphy   2 years ago

        if he's not ignorant then he's intentionally mendacious which is worse. i say biden is ignorant. for instance if obama said that he'd be mendacious because i know he's full of it bit not stupid. like joe.

        1. NOYB2   2 years ago

          if he’s not ignorant then he’s intentionally mendacious which is worse

          Biden is a successful politician. Of course he is "intentionally mendacious".

      2. CE   1 year ago

        They never stop to ask why corporations are suddenly greedy, and why they didn't jack up prices 5 years ago, or 10 years ago. It's freshman-level economics and it's a foreign concept to them. If you raise your prices too high, people buy less and your profits can decline.

  15. JesseAz   2 years ago

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/nov/27/biden-inflation-prices-defense-production-act

    The White House has announced it plans to use a cold-war era law to ease supply chain issues that the administration argues are contributing to higher inflation – a key electoral challenge to Joe Biden’s re-election chances next year as polling consistently suggests voters are not buying his Bidenomics pitch.

    But at least Biden recognizes the constitition right sarc?

    1. charliehall   2 years ago

      Trump did the sane thing.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Thanks sarc. You criticized it then, can you do so now?

      2. NOYB2   2 years ago

        Trump did the sane thing.

        Freudian slip? Clever pun? Secret Trump supporter?

  16. EdG   2 years ago

    It's simple for those with half a brain, which many Reason commenters seem to lack. If corporate profits have increased above the inflation rate, corporations are gouging consumers. Since corporate profits are at record levels and well above inflation, Biden is right.

    1. Homer Thompson   2 years ago

      let me guess ... you have no clue what the difference is between revenue and income

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      I love it when people who obviously have no idea what they are talking about come and call everyone else idiots.

    3. Enemy of the State   2 years ago

      Not only is Biden wrong, but you have no idea what constitutes market prices, profits or inflation and lastly, you claim Biden is correct!

      3 strikes buddy...

    4. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

      Clearly you don't have a degree in mathematics.

    5. Sevo   2 years ago

      "It’s simple for those with half a brain,..."

      In which case, you wouldn't know it, quarter-wit.

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        Great comeback!

      2. Squirrelloid   2 years ago

        If he waits a year, it might be a dollar wit.

    6. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      I sense a concert invite from one of our fellow reason commenters soon.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Maybe spend a weekend playing cards in a half million dollar vacation rental.

    7. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair, Ed.

      Haha. What a doosh.

  17. Enemy of the State   2 years ago

    If you allow the source of inflation - the Federal Reserve - to define inflation, and you think supply chain disruptions cause inflation, you are left to assume that inflation has indeed fallen.

    But if you have a firm grounding in economics, you know that M2 is still 35%+ higher than 3 years ago...

    1. DesigNate   2 years ago

      And if you’re EdG, you can’t understand any of that so you just call everyone else an idiot.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        It's like my buddy who didn't take calculus all over again.

  18. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Question for one of you Peanuts - why wasn't the price super spike of 2007-2008 considered "inflation"?

    Home price were in a bubble, crude hit an all-time high of $147/bbl, food commodities like rice, wheat, corn hit all time highs - yet no one back then cried about the price of their Cheesy-Poofs.

    Well, there was a Republican president. Other than that where was the hand-wringing we saw in 2022?

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

      The 2000s commodities boom or the commodities super cycle[1] was the rise of many physical commodity prices (such as those of food, oil, metals, chemicals and fuels) during the early 21st century (2000–2014),[2] following the Great Commodities Depression of the 1980s and 1990s. The boom was largely due to the rising demand from emerging markets such as the BRIC countries, particularly China during the period from 1992 to 2013,[2] as well as the result of concerns over long-term supply availability

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000s_commodities_boom

      See? Definitely NOT inflation. $147/bbl crude – not inflation.

      2022? $76/bbl crude oil? HAPERINFLATION!!!

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
        But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

    2. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

      Question for one of you Peanuts – why wasn’t the price super spike of 2007-2008 considered “inflation”?

      It was; any value greater than 0% is “inflation”. However, the inflation target for the fed is 2%, which is considered “normal” by the powers that be.

      The inflation rate in 2007 was 4.1% (peak 5.6%) and in 2008 was 0.1%, averaging out to 2.1% for the two years, the fed target.

      Inflation rate under Biden was 7% in 2021, 6.5% in 2022, and 6% in 2023, averaging 6.5% over the three years, with a peak of 9.1%. That is extreme inflation. We haven’t seen anything like that since the early 1980’s. And the inflation during Biden's presidency is primarily due to Biden's policies, rather than external factors.

      Did that answer your question?

  19. n00bdragon   2 years ago

    It's always the fault of the wreckers.

    1. damikesc   2 years ago

      Damned kulaks.

  20. Chip D   2 years ago

    If corporate profits are up, then inflation is not to blame for high prices... it is pretty simple.

    1. Rossami   2 years ago

      For every complex problem, there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong. - HL Mencken

      Congratulations - you found that wrong answer, Chip D.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      Are they up by a percentage in profit margin or in total dollar amounts? Because at least one of those could certainly be caused by inflation.

      1. NOYB2   2 years ago

        Corporate profits are not up since 2005 in any meaningful sense.

        https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=1Pik

  21. Pear Satirical   2 years ago

    In related news, liking, commenting, or retweeting one of Donald Trump's tweets is enough for them to want your information.

  22. Charles Epperson   2 years ago

    They are confusing anything this is purposeful. They want to bully companies to lower prices to make them look good.

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      It's pandering for votes and a power grab. "a Council on Supply Chain Resilience, created with the hope to "strengthen America's supply chains" and "lower costs for families."" Jesus H Christ...what a world.

  23. middlefinger   2 years ago

    The feds are lying about inflation -period- some items are on sale or watered dawn (my protein shake went 30grams protein per bottle to 20 grams per bottle. lowered price by a buck a case) Don’t believe by lying eyes. Crime is really not that bad, Polis is a libertarian, migrants aren’t public charge, blah blah blah blah blah.

    1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

      Yeah, that's shrinkflation as some talking heads call it. When your package of oreos is the same price but has lost 6 cookies. Eventually they can't subtract any more cookies so they raise the price and give you back half the cookies they removed from the original package. I'd really like to find a site that uses something like Oreos to show how inflation had changed package size and price since the inception of the Oreo. I think it would help some of the mathematically challenged understand inflation in real terms. Others will always fall for the "Corporations Bad! Hulk Trust Bust!".

  24. Nardz   2 years ago

    Nice

    https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1730007250515701897?t=-ZlwFq0rTjwxWa3_LQbqDg&s=19

    NEW - Elon Musk: "If someone is going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with money, go fuck yourself. Go fuck yourself. Is that clear? I hope it is."

    [Video]

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      It’s fun when you have money.

    2. tracerv   2 years ago

      I love he called out Disney and Iger by name.

      https://www.foxbusiness.com/fox-news-tech/elon-musk-tells-advertisers-who-left-x-go-f-yourself

  25. WuzYoungOnceToo   2 years ago

    Another proud graduate of the AOC "Unemployment is low because everyone is working two jobs" School of Economics.

  26. GroundTruth   2 years ago

    And once again, we see the problem with fiat money. Time to go back to the gold standard, or be honest about what the actual basic unit of commerce is in the Republic at this point: the minimum wage hourly pay.

    1. charliehall   2 years ago

      That would result in an instant decline in the money supply of about eighty percent. What would follow would make the Great Depression seem like fabulous prosperity by comparison.

      1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

        That level of misery is inevitable. Better to control the time it happens than wait for some event you don't control to trigger it.

      2. NOYB2   2 years ago

        That would result in an instant decline in the money supply of about eighty percent.

        "Going back to the gold standard" doesn't mean anything "instant" and it doesn't mean a "decline in the money supply".

        The US can gradually transition to gold standards by eliminating the prohibition on gold clauses and allowing the creation of private, gold-backed currencies and cryptocurrencies. The market would then gradually shift to those currencies.

        What would follow would make the Great Depression seem like fabulous prosperity by comparison.

        The US has $30 trillion in debt, $210 trillion in unfunded liabilities, and has rapidly been destroying its industrial base, educational system, demographics, and energy sectors.

        One way or another, the US is going to default on that debt and those pension obligations. Most likely, the government is going to try to inflate that debt away, meaning that people will end up with a fraction of what they were expecting.

        A severe depression is inevitable at this point. A gold standard would actually reduce the pain and shorten it.

  27. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Yeah this is just dumb. It is just Biden trying to change the subject from inflation since he is the one getting blamed for it.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      He won’t get re-elected.

    2. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

      How dare the president deny responsibility for the economy!

    3. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      When you try to run everything you're gonna get blamed when it gets all fucked up.

    4. WuzYoungOnceToo   2 years ago

      It is just Biden trying to change the subject from inflation

      Talking about inflation is a pretty stupid way to change the subject from inflation.

  28. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    Goebbels would be so proud - - - - - - - - - -

  29. Apollonius   2 years ago

    The only inflation that the Biden Administration has managed to bring down was the Chinese spy balloon.

    And even then, it took him too long to do it.

  30. Warren   2 years ago (edited)

    “Let me be clear: To any corporation that has not brought their prices back down—even as inflation has come down, even as supply chains have been rebuilt—it’s time to stop the price gouging,”

    That’s some humanities matriculating sophomore shit right there.

    1. MrMxyzptlk   2 years ago

      Well, Sleepy Joe isn't trying to bullshit the math majors. He knows they won't be voting for him. His only hope in 2024 is bullshitting and bribing the liberal arts majors.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      He was hardly the top of his class in any level of school.

    3. CE   1 year ago

      Does President Joe even understand that when inflation drops from 10% a year to 5% a year, companies don't lower their prices, they jack them up another 5%?

  31. Chumby   2 years ago

    Brandon the brown pants reign here,
    Had a child friendly nose,
    And if you ever saw him,
    You would say he’s like pedos.

    All of the others reign here,
    Ignore this, don’t call him names,
    They always let creep Brandon,
    Cosplay those Pluggo games.

    Then one foggy scripted speech,
    Nambla came to say,
    Brandon with your sniffing plight,
    Won’t you whiff a kid tonight.

    Then all in fear fake loved him,
    MSM cheered on in glee,
    Brandon the pedo reign here,
    You’ll fall down when walking free.

  32. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    "...And if you don't start giving away your stuff we'll pull out the gov-guns and make you!!!!", sincerely the Democratic [Na]tional So[zi]alist party.

  33. Maddog   2 years ago

    Looks like Joe went to the same economics program as AOC. If brains were dynamite they wouldn't be able to blow their noses.

  34. CE   1 year ago

    What do you expect from someone who's never run even a lemonade stand, and has no idea what's involved in trying to turn a profit?

  35. John C. Randolph   1 year ago

    Fiat money is unconstitutional in these United States.

    -jcr

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