Should Governments Need a Warrant To Spy on You With a Drone?
The Michigan Supreme Court will hear opening arguments today in a case that could decide whether the practice is allowed.

A Michigan township sued a local family over a minor zoning violation, but the case could determine whether governments can spy on citizens without warrants. Today, the Michigan Supreme Court is set to hear oral arguments on the case.
Todd and Heather Maxon live in Long Lake Township, on five acres of land with two garages. Todd likes to work on cars, so he keeps some on the property. In 2008, the township sued, accusing them of storing "junk," a zoning violation. In exchange for dropping the charges, the couple agreed not to expand their collection. Neighbors later complained that the Maxons had indeed acquired more cars, but the collection was not visible from the road.
Instead of getting a warrant—or, since nothing was visible from the road, dropping the issue altogether—the township hired a private drone company to fly over the property and take pictures several times between 2010 and 2018. Citing the pictures, the township sued the Maxons for violating the agreement.
The Maxons argued that since the township never sought a warrant, the pictures violated their Fourth Amendment rights. While the Michigan Court of Appeals agreed, the state Supreme Court remanded the case back and asked the appeals court to determine "whether the exclusionary rule applies to this dispute." Under the exclusionary rule, evidence obtained illegally cannot be used at trial.
This time, the court of appeals sided with the township. It agreed that the search was a violation of the Maxons' Fourth Amendment rights but decided that it didn't matter since the case was civil and not criminal. "The exclusionary rule was not intended to operate in this arena, and serves no valuable function," Chief Judge Elizabeth Gleicher wrote, adding, "The exclusionary rule is intended to deter police misconduct, not that of lower-level bureaucrats who have little or no training in the Fourth Amendment."
Gleicher contended that the Maxons could sue the township in civil court for the Fourth Amendment violation but that the evidence should remain free to use against them at trial, as "the social cost of excluding evidence in a case such as this would be substantial…as a public nuisance would potentially remain unabated."
Today, the Michigan Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in Long Lake Township v. Maxon. The court has the chance to decide whether a municipal government can circumvent constitutional protections by farming out the task to a private company.
Oddly, the case is not so straightforward as deciding whether or not warrantless drone surveillance is constitutional; in fact, the appeals court ruled explicitly that it was not. But it also said that excluding any evidence gathered would be inappropriate, so the state Supreme Court can functionally determine whether local governments can do this and get away with it.
Multiple civil liberty advocacy organizations have submitted amicus briefs on behalf of the Maxons. The American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), the ACLU of Michigan, and the Mackinac Center for Public Policy, a free market think tank based in Michigan, jointly filed a brief in September. The organizations argued that "if the Township gets its way, it will not only profit from its privacy violations, but open the door to other local governments deploying cheap, pervasive, flying surveillance devices to surveil private property for the smallest of civil infractions."
"The exclusionary remedy—whether in criminal or civil enforcement cases like this one—is, in practice, the only reliable incentive modern officials have to take care that Fourth Amendment rights are respected," argued the Institute for Justice, a nonprofit public-interest law firm, in its own brief. "Without consequences for arbitrary invasions into those rights, no one can be secure in their person, house, papers, or effects."
The Cato Institute called the township's search "manifestly unreasonable" as it was "conducted without judicial supervision and with no justification for failing to procure a warrant other than mere convenience."
The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) acknowledges that while existing case law may be on the township's side, the "characteristics" of drones are worth revisiting judicial precedent. In 1986's California v. Ciraolo, for example, the U.S. Supreme Court determined that the Fourth Amendment did not require police to obtain a warrant "in order to observe what is visible to the naked eye."
But Ciraolo involved government agents flying a plane over a house 1,000 feet in the air. While the Court determined that this did not constitute a search, the EFF noted, "it recognized the possibility of 'future "electronic" developments [that] could stealthily intrude upon an individual's privacy' in the same context." The EFF argues that "the seismic technological shifts" in the drone market "necessitate a fresh evaluation of the modern aerial surveillance technology used in this case."
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Chief Judge Elizabeth Gleicher wrote, adding, "The exclusionary rule is intended to deter police misconduct, not that of lower-level bureaucrats who have little or no training in the Fourth Amendment."
Judge Gleicher thinks the convenience of bureaucrats, and low level ones at that, is more important that the US Constitution? And said so in a published opinion? Well, another democrat hellhole added to the list of places to avoid.
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Once you understand 'equity' vs 'equality' it all makes sense.
MI tries, but it's no CA or IL or NY or PA. We're a little too midwestern and non-cosmopolitan so we're lagging behind. But they're working on it, slowly but surely.
"The exclusionary rule is intended to deter police misconduct, not that of lower-level bureaucrats who have little or no training in the Fourth Amendment."
Cool. As long as I have little or no training in specific legal doctrine, I can violate that doctrine in Michigan, right?
Only if you are a low-level bureaucrat.
Or a cop. For them, ignorance of the law is an excuse.
Or an appellate court judge.
Yes, next question
It would seem part of the question is, how far down and up does your property ownership go? It is not to the center of the earth or to the Karman line. We establish "property lines' in only two dimensions so it would seem that third dimension needs to be addressed.
What about the fifth dimension?
finally we're close to the Age of Pisces.
There actually are answers to that question but it's not directly relevant here. Consider the police who set up a stakeout in your next-door neighbor's house. Even though they're on the neighbor's property with permission, they're still supposed to need a warrant to aim the telephoto lens into your window.
Regardless of the vertical line of your property, anything you are doing, on your own property, or residence, that can be observed, must have a warrant issued, or the evidence is as invalid as if the authorities went onto the property and observed it.
Having a drone sit just off your vertical property line, watching what you do there is still a violation, or should be.
That's not true. If you can see something on a person's property you can take photos or video.
Technically, your property ownership goes down very far and up very far. However, the federal government claims an easement for "navigable airspace", which means basically anything right above your structures.
The distinction between this and not owning the airspace at all is that you can build structures on your property and the "navigable airspace" adjusts accordingly.
I don't care what the lawyers say, if a government agency can fine you for a violation of its code it's NOT a "civil" infraction! If the suspects agreed to a consent decree, that agreement does not convert a criminal investigation into a civil one. Suspicion of having violated that agreement is also not a "civil" investigation. Flying a drone over the property for the express purpose of collecting evidence in that investigation is forbidden by the Fourth Amendment, so using that evidence is not allowed in subsequent official proceedings, whether technically "civil" or not. But, of course, they will undoubtedly screw up this no-brainer now.
I agree. The government should not be allowed in civil court.
Okay, there may need to be an exception for situations where the government is a participant on equal footing with the other party - for example, seeking interpretation of a contract clause. But the idea of "civil" penalties should be entirely abolished. If the government thinks you or I did something wrong, they should be required to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt and with all due process controls regardless of whether the potential penalty is time or property.
I think we've discussed this here before. Almost every municipality uses google earth to look at properties and changes over time. This genie is likely out of the bottle, the toothpaste out of the tube. Even IF you could get a favorable ruling saying that municipalities aren't allowed to use drones for property violations (and by extension, google earth), they can still use them, but then use reconstructive techniques to claim a pretense of an inspection: an anonymous neighbor tipped them off, it's routine, we saw construction materials coming in and out etc.
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There's nothing that says they can't use those techniques - they just need to get a warrant first. The issue here is that they're trying to do away with even the thin protection we get from the warrant requirement.
Asking or paying someone to take pictures of a possible violation is different from getting images from publicly available images (Google).
it's a search.
If you can only see it using a drone, then it isn't a public nuisance.
As a general principle consistent with the traditional view of the Constritution as a delegation of power from the People, where some novel technology comes into effect - from aeroplanes to computers - the government has no delegated authority unless explicitly provided. This after all is one point of 9A and 10A.
The government not having the explicit power to fly drones over the citizenry, a warrant is the very least they should be required to get.
If it were truly a civil matter and not a criminal mater, as it relates to the 4th amendment, does that mean that there is no prohibition against shooting down, or otherwise disabling a drone that is flying over your property and taking pictures? It seems like criminal trespass to me.
But who owns the sky? Commercial planes fly over my house daily, (although mostly at high altitude). So, what if a passenger or pilot casually looks down and notes my unregistered swimming pool in my back yard? Can they report me to the drone force?
BTW, my county looked into hiring a drone company to fly missions to smoke out building permit scofflaws. They ultimately decided the service would cost more than it would bring in in fees and canned it.
Theoretically, you own everything from the center of the earth to somewhere ill defined but very far above.
However, the federal government claims an easement for the "navigable airspace" over your property.
With drones, "navigable airspace" means basically everything down to the top of your structures, your garden furniture, and your garden gnomes.
As much as I hate to I side with the city. If flying the drone over the house isn’t illegal the evidence should be available. Look at it this way the cops could have just stuck a phone on a selfie stick and and peeked over the wall. They could have climbed a tall ladder and looked into the yard. That’s perfectly legal.
No, that’s not necessarily legal.
That's some kind of Schrodinger's nuisance.
Intent is the issue. I miss the days when Intent was the major part of cases. The city obviously intended to SPY and by it's own intent would require a warrant.
Personally this goes beyond what is and isn't legal. Just one simple question. If you have to fly a drone to prove someone is causing a nuisance in society, is it really a problem? Can't we focus our limited resources on a cause which actually will noticeable benefits?
If you can't see the cars from the road and the neighbors can't see them from their property and no one's water supply is being contaminated I'm failing to see the problem other than running afoul of the local muckity mucks.
If no judicial-warrant is required, couldn’t anyone fly over the backyard of any celebrity, any judge, any politician or anyone?
Civil libertarians turned the tables on arbitrary searches by legally using them against the officials themselves back in the 1970’s. Very effective.
Those abusing this drone technology merely need to be on the “receiving end” of these laws and practices that they create! That’s the best way to legally solve it.
Lemme see, they could spend eight years counting cars, but the couldn't spare the time to get a judge to rubber stamp a warrant? Seriously, what in the actual fuck?