Tim Scott Invokes Ronald Reagan and Says UAW Strikers Should Be Fired
"He said, you strike, you're fired. Simple concept to me. To the extent that we can use that once again, absolutely."

Republican presidential candidate Sen. Tim Scott (R–S.C.) said striking United Auto Workers (UAW) members should be fired, following the example of President Ronald Reagan crushing an air traffic controller strike in the early 1980s.
NBC News reported Monday that at a meet-and-greet event in Iowa, Scott was asked whether he would insert himself as president into talks between the UAW and the auto industry. The UAW is on the fifth day of a strike against Detroit's Big Three automakers—Ford, General Motors, and Stellantis—that could have serious economic impacts on the U.S.
"I think Ronald Reagan gave us a great example when federal employees decided they were going to strike," Scott responded. "He said, you strike, you're fired. Simple concept to me. To the extent that we can use that once again, absolutely."
Reagan famously fired more than 11,000 unionized air traffic controllers and barred them from federal service for life after they went on strike in 1981.
Of course, those air traffic controllers were government employees. It's unclear if Scott thinks the president would have the authority to fire private employees on strike or compel management to do so. Strikers are also largely protected from firing under the National Labor Relations Act.
In a statement to NBC News, the campaign also declined to elaborate, but spokesperson Matt Gorman said Scott "has repeatedly made clear, both at that event and others, that taxpayers shouldn't subsidize any deal with the UAW and auto companies."
That's a perfectly fair point, and the UAW's demands are fair game for criticism as well. UAW leaders have been bargaining for a four-day workweek, in addition to higher wages and cost of living protections.
"We're seeing the UAW fight for more benefits and less hours working," Scott said at the event. "More pay and fewer days on the job. It's a disconnect from work, and we have to find a way to encourage and inspire people to go back to work."
But it's not the president's place to play strikebreaker (or matchmaker) when a labor dispute involves two private parties.
UPDATE: Scott's campaign reached out after publication with additional comments the Senator made in New Hampshire today:
"It's also nice to be quoted accurately, which was really difficult for me… I remember exactly what I said, I was talking, someone asked me the question about the UAW and one of the things I said was that, you know, in the Ronald Reagan years when the FAA had their strike, one of the things he did was fire them. Obviously, the President doesn't fire folks in the private sector, but he can do so in the public sector. And, importantly, as a note, and I think this is pretty important, I used that as a bridge to have a conversation about the fact that unions that are negotiating too often overpromise and under deliver so much so that President Biden's first bill the COVID relief package, y'all remember the COVID relief package? $1.9 trillion worth of spending, checks going in the mail very quickly. The only thing missing in the COVID relief package was the COVID Relief. 1% for vaccines, another 10% for COVID related health, but $86 billion to shore up the retirement plans that were going belly up within the unions.
"I brought up the Ronald Reagan years because I do think that we need to have front and center the example of a president who stood strong and today's president, he stands weak. So weak that he's using your- there's no such thing as a federal dollar. They're all your dollars. Our dollars as citizens. Taking $86 billion out of our collective pocket to use that to shore up the unions is in my opinion, wrong.
"Third thing I say, really important, is that as a member of the Finance Committee I'll never forget the union widow who was promised $4,000 a month in retirement and needed to depend on the federal backstop of $1,000 a month because she was promised something and not delivered. When your negotiations want to have 32 hour work weeks, but more money and a four day work week and higher benefits, the truth is that we all pay that higher price, but the ultimate payer has been basically the American taxpayers. And so that's what I said but they only clipped it for their benefit."
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Tim Scott is an idiot.
How to artfully relieve some of the pressure being put on Joe Biden over this strike...
In before Buttplug says something racist again.
He is a Republican, so how couldn't he be an idiot?
Yeah, it was different when Reagan did it. I don't think that the CEOs of any of these companies have that authority, legally.
I think they SHOULD, I just don't think that they do.
They do not.
They don't have the authority because the socialist department of labor made laws to favor the socialist extortions
Are those people that the President could fire? 😀
"They don’t have the authority because the socialist department of labor made laws to favor the socialist extortions"
Yes, it is a spectacularly good example of why Workers have the good sense to support Socialism.
Well done.
Nobody with any sense supports socialism.
At this point I don't think anyone believes VendicarD belongs in that category.
Socialist governments historically stamped out independent trade unions. Good look negotiating when the state is your employer.
Ok, what am I missing - the contract has expired right? This is for a new contract. Can't they just say your services are no longer needed? That's how it works everywhere else.
Unions have built-in regulatory capture thanks to the NLRB and a couple of federal laws that give them power and also prevent the companies from acting like normal.
"Can’t they just say your services are no longer needed?"
So you are saying that U.S. auto makers should shut down their companies rather than live up to the promises they made their workers back in 2008?
You are hilarious.
You mean the "promises" that were extorted out of them? The '08 bailout was a blatant giveaway to the unions and a complete disaster from start to finish.
Unions are a little like herpes. Once you get them, they stick with you for life.
They definitely should, I've been saying that all along.
If you're striking, fine, apparently you're not happy with the terms of employment being offered. So quit, that's great. But don't think that you can compel the owner of the company to pay you a certain wage because it's what you think you deserve, and don't stand in the way of someone else doing the job for the wage being offered.
It's long since past time to declare all states as "right to work", and make membership in a union an understood reason why one should not have one's contract renewed.
They think that they do. Or they basically campaign on a platform that should be able to. Both of which normalize the notion that IF they do that, it's a good idea and one shouldn't stop them just because its not legal.
This is a disingenuous take. It's like the leftist writing this drivel doesn't understand the existence of the NLRB and how that plays here or that this sets a general tone, not a specific threat of executive action. Don't whine about inflation when you stand for ridiculous labor demands made from behind a wall of protective legislation.
I don't see anyone here whining about inflation.
Well just you.
As a taxpayer, I own the auto companies, therefore I have a say in the negotiations.
Weed is legal where you live, I presume?
Everything is legal where I live.
Self defense?
We paid for them. But we gave them away. And robbed their secure creditors while we were at it.
We are terrible owners.
That's a dumb thing for Scott to say. When Reagan fired the air traffic controllers, their strike was illegal and the law was that striking federal employees forfeit their jobs. This wasn't something that Reagan just made up - he was upholding the law. The UAW strike might be a bad idea but it's not illegal and they're private sector employees which puts this outside the President's authority.
It’s a side show act.
they’re private sector employees
Nominally private sector employees. They owe their continued existence to the taxpayer. As does the company management as well.
Now do Wall St bonuses
They would have continued to exist without the bailout. Ford had it shoved down their throat. GM and whatever the hell the other one was called then could have gone through normal, orderly bankruptcy proceedings. The bailout didn't save the industry, it was just a blatant payoff to the unions.
" . . . and they’re private sector employees which puts this outside the President’s authority."
Tell that to those cancelled by social media at the "request" of the Biden administration.
Hey Scott. Not government's business. Fuck off.
That said, I'd crack a smile if Ford and GM fired everybody and hired a brand new workforce.
They all deserve burnt steaks.
"not the government's business" would mean that the government wouldn't stop them from actually firing the striking workers.
Tim Scott offering his opinion comes pretty close to staying within "not the government's business". He has pretty much zero power to effect any action related to the strike or the companies in question.
Oh, I think the welfare of the American people is the business of the American Government.
You might not think that, but then you aren't very bright are you?
You try so hard in your trolling, but it just always falls flat.
The main reason why Right to Work laws kill unions is because unions cannot survive on voluntary membership or voluntary fees. If Tim Scott is saying that unions shouldn't exist, then he's really stupid.
But that is to be expected. Only a handful of GOPers have caught on to the realignment. Most are too retarded to notice.
Huh?
He's right. Used to be that strikers could get fired. Then the NLRB came into effect.
Used to be the power of the strikers came in solidarity. Meet our demands or good luck finding any replacements. Even today they could do that. My healthcare company is currently striking, but with no replacement nurses waiting in the wings, they would be idiots to fire them all. That's the power. Skilled workers are an asset to the company, so management does NOT want to fire them all.
Enter the NLRB. Now it doesn't matter. The force is not the strikers, the force is the government forcing management to do what the government wants. It emasculates the labor movement. And the government abuse goes both ways, as wildcat strikes are now illegal. Can only strike if the government lets you. Which is why all these pubic union strikes are so fucking ridiculous.
So yeah, get the government out of the way, then threaten to fire all the strikers. But be prepared for the consequences because auto workers do not grow on trees. The market works if you let it.
It would be so nice if we let the market work more than we do.
GM shouldn't actually exist.
Why not? We stole the company and gave it to the unions while screwing their creditors to the tune of $90 billion. Surely that is a lot of effort to go through if they are not supposed to exist.
I guess if it exists because of massive fraud and theft from the tax payer then it is ok.
As I understand it they are striking with demands that they be given a raise of close to 50% and to have their hours reduced to 32 hours per week (but be paid for 40), as well as massive pension deals to return to the old system that would break the companies (again), as well as massive concessions on paying for healthcare of retirees.
Any one of those would probably be an iron-clad deal-killer.
But they are saying that generous raises and other concessions are a "non-starter" and "insulting". So they strike, but in ways that are intended to require the companies to pay the vast majority of workers by attacking the supply chain.
I'd say "fire those guys" is a pretty sane reaction.
In fact, I would be willing to bet that if the federal government didn't stand behind the UAW, every one of those companies would take the hit in terms of experienced labor and never hire anyone who was ever a UAW member again, until the end of time.
This list of demands is batshit insane. They clearly know that they can never be agreed to... not by any company that wants to stay in business.
In fact, I would guess that it would be far cheaper to move all production overseas and eat the tariffs than it would be to do even a subset of these demands as they exist.
It's insanity. The Union "ask" is so far removed from common sense and reality.
Did increasing CEO pay by the same amount constitute a lack of "common sense and reality"?
LOL
The CEO pay is high, but, comparatively, it's a drop in the bucket to what the UAW is demanding.
that is just 11 levels of stupid. No CEO got his pay increased by enough to endanger the financial viability of the company.
Lets take GM as the example. The CEO makes almost $30 million per the google. That is a crazy amount for someone running that shit-show. But still, it is a company with 167,000 employees. Giving every employee a $30 per year raise is more money than the CEO's salary. Not $30 per hour. $30 per year. Like, give everyone a visa gift card for Labor Day $30. That is more than the CEO gets in an entire year.
That is how mind-numbingly stupid "but the CEO makes a lot" is as a cannard in this discussion. Holy crap, that is stupid. Comparing a nice lunch at Cheescake Factory for every employee with reducing hours by 20%, increasing labor rates by 50%, recreating a pension system that resulted in the death of 2 of the big 3 followed by a federal government takeover.....
Yeah, that's literally what you just did. You compared a "one free lunch at cheescake factory" coupon for every employee with the literal destruction of the company as a viable entity - and patted yourself on the back for coming up with a coup-de-gras moment.
Remember when we lamented the death of HnR and how the dearth of intellect was killing this libertarian beacon?
Yeah.... prime example, folks.
Holy crap. Do better.
I posted some GM figures from 2020 the other day . GM then had 155000 employees globally. They had 92000 in the US. 58000 were salaried employees leaving 34000 presumably workers,
They had 63000 outside the US. They didn't post figures for salaried foreign employees and I suspect most of them are workers.
It would be fairly easy to offshore production and eventually close US plants.
Their market took a dive in China, down between 20 and 25%
On top of all that they have 490,000 retirees to support.
Yeah... the old school pension is what put them out of business. That is what they are demanding. Government worker style pensions.
There is no way they believe this set of demands will ever be met. That one alone is a poison pill, and they don't even mention it most of the time.
Also... mid breakdown I dropped a zero. So dinner for the family, not just for one.
Point remains.
Maybe if they lowered CEO compensation to rational levels the worker demands would be similarly reduced, since their demands for pay increases mirrors the amount of pay increase received by the CEO's.
LOL. You are Hilarious.
Yes, let’s use the envy system.
+1
What's hilarious is your apparent inability to run some simple numbers and find out how moronic you are.
The unions will once again kill the goose. The requested comp package math simply doesn't work. If the automakers agree to anything close to their demands it will plant the seeds for the next bankruptcy. Earlier in my career I covered various industries (i.e. airlines, steel, autos) that had a heavy dose of organized labor and they all had one trait in common.....financial restructurings.
Ah, but increasing CEO pay by 80% is completely reasonable.... Right?
nobody can possibly be this stupid. Please, please, please be a parody. It aint funny.... but at least it isn't sad.
Please - ENB. Call up the guys over at Glibertarians. Apologize. Run a story about their "too local" issue. Beg them to come back. And then go hire some Libertarian writers. Beg the Jacket to come back full time and mentor them.
My poor soul just cannot take Reason being as dumb as MSNBC or the comments at WaPo. It just hurts too much.
If you took the annual compensation of GM's CEO and divided it up among the workers, each would get about a raise of about 8 cents an hour.
CEOs annual pay: $28,979,570 per year
Divided by 167,000 workers = $173.53 per year
divided by 52 weeks in a year = $3.34 per week (rounded to nearest penny)
divided by 40 hours in a work week = 8.3 cents per hour.
Fourth grade math clearly isn't your strong suit.
Makes you wonder why Dodge is building engines and trucks in Mexico and Ford built their new factory in TN. The unions are hastening their own demise. Of course their Democrat/Communist masters are in support. They will leave behind millions even more dependent on government handouts. What a shame the poor members don't see how they are being used in this game.
That is all part of market competition for wages isn't it?
If the Auto Companies can't compete then let them go bankrupt.
Cry Free Market FreeDumb.....
Above you said they should not shut down.
Wait, now you're for free market? You need to pick a lane.
"free market" that includes a monopoly on violence standing on one side of the negotiating table.
The Auto market is hardly free-market competition anymore. Leftards have practically taken it over as bad as healthcare. Enter astronomical prices for vehicles just as it did for healthcare.
"The Auto market is hardly free-market competition anymore. "
You're free to buy an auto, you're free not to.
Apparently not since Biden keeps taxing for certain car manufacturing subsidies while promising to ban certain cars entirely while simultaneously making endless mandates about exactly what kind of car can even be made.
"They will leave behind millions even more dependent on government handouts."
Corporations have been selling out American workers through offshoring since the time Ronald Reagan began to help them.
Don't you remember when Libertarian publications like Reason were calling the firing of American workers "Right-sizing".
Why change now?
It's funny how little you know about economics.
Someone was asking earlier where Tony went. Apparently, he morphed into VendicarD
(When he's not dragging it up as Anastasia Beavernoteater).
Ah unions, where mediocrity rules. Protecting bad workers and discouraging good workers since the inception of ...wait for it, unions!
guys... my history here goes back to the beginning of HnR. Way before we had official handles and every post got an ad-hoc name. I rarely get edgy with the attitude of my comments. I get exercised about the state of our editorial direction and the competence of the messaging.... but I don't engage in the personal back and forth and the ad-hominem invective.
But this article. You guys.... just.... damn.
The brain drain is too great. There are only 4 or 5 people even sniffing around "libertarian" on this page.
We have an entire article written from the dumbest "republican's pounce" point of view. As if what one republican legislator has to say on a non-legislative issue is even remotely newsworthy. I mean, if he had announced that he was going to open a slave market in Chad, it might have been newsworthy. But this?
This is the angle we are going with? There are so many libertarian issues here. "Tim Scott says they should fire the striking workers" is not even remotely one of them.
And shame on the commentariat. You guys suck too. This is not minimal stupid. This is colossally stupid. Stupid enough that it isn't an accident. Someone is calling the tune that these monkeys are dancing to. There is zero chance the union bosses think this is sound labor relations strategy. This is about something bigger. They aim to hamstring the economy. They have been very explicit about that.
More to the point, their messengers in the press have been trumpeting that fact for a month.
Why? Who is calling that shot? Is it the feds? Is it the billionaire cabal that funds places like the Stanford Internet Observatory? Is it Russia? Is it China?
Literally everyone except the White House and the Big 3 and the union rank and file is a suspect for "who is calling the shots?" on this one.
And my brethren of the board formerly known as HnR offered weak resistance to the thin gruel they were offered up.
Come on guys! Is this place truly dead? Did it really die in 2016? Have I really been pulling a Norman Bates, hanging out with the corps of my once-beautiful Reason, pretending that she still has life in her?
This is so.... just so.......
pathetic.
"As if what one republican legislator has to say on a non-legislative issue is even remotely newsworthy. "
I'd say it's remotely newsworthy. The last big strike was the railway workers. Republicans were largely sympathetic to the strikers and it was Biden who forced them back to work. If Scott's attitude is indicative of a change in Republican thinking, it's worth noting.
"Literally everyone except the White House and the Big 3 and the union rank and file is a suspect for “who is calling the shots?” on this one. "
Blame the workers. They gave permission to the union leaders to call a strike after their contract expired. They want a bigger slice of the pie.
Wanting a bigger slice of the pie is fine.
This insane spending and the resultant inflation has effectively cut their pay quite a bit.
But this list of demands?
There is zero chance the rank and file thinks this list is worth going on strike over. I don't know what the counter offer is in its totality... but I do know you are not getting old-school pensions, forever healthcare or 50% raises. So do they.
I saw some blogger quoting a study that said the total ask was an effective increase in cost of labor of like $170 per hour. Number is off a bit because I wasn't really paying attention, but is the right order of magnitude.
Yeah... nobody thinks that is reasonable. Cars would be over $50k for the cheap one.
"There is zero chance the rank and file thinks this list is worth going on strike over. "
According to the news, the workers voted overwhelmingly to give the union leaders the mandate to call a strike after their contract expired. You seem to believe, without evidence, that some dark force is pulling their strings.
"Yeah… nobody thinks that is reasonable. "
The demands don't have to be reasonable. The details are ironed out in the negotiation process between workers and management.
A bigger slice of the pie is one thing. They're basically asking for more pie than actually exists.
"They’re basically asking for more pie than actually exists."
Then they won't get what they're asking for. I repeat, this will be ironed out in the negotiations, like any contract.
Ok, so while we are wasting time on this non-discussion of the not-the-issue-at-all pouncing republican, this popped up in my Twitter feed
https://youtu.be/YEa9pcOAZo8?si=Ydpso9Cf1rLTKKcP
The Rubicon is officially crossed.
The UK parliament is demanding that Russel Brand be denied any ability to earn money.
They sent a demand letter to Rumble. It suggests that they were behind the demonitization on YouTube.
But yeah.... Tim Scott offered his opinion on a strike.
"The Rubicon is officially crossed."
Ambassador Craig Murray? Julian Assange? They both went to jail on bogus charges for their opposition to the state. Assange is still there. How's that for rubicrossing?
Except Assange was actually officially accused of something, charged and chose to hide out in an embassy rather than facing possible execution for exercising freedom of the press.
This was accomplished with a letter.
“thou shalt work no more”…. with a letter from a single Karen in the government.
Rumble gave an excellent response to the demand letter.
https://twitter.com/rumblevideo/status/1704584927834960196?s=61&t=SrjxUHxG8TnVMQVYz0680A
YouTube capitulated.
"Except Assange was actually officially accused of something"
Officially? That makes it OK, even if the charges were false? And what about the bullshit charges that sent Murray to prison? If the rubicon was officially crossed, it was with the persecution these two. It's shameful that your impulse is to defend their persecution by the state.
I'd start-up a new vehicle company if the Nazi's in D.C. didn't have their Nazi-Hands all over that market.
Destroying economies is what Nazi's do. I guess all our vehicles will have to be imported now just not sure what we'll use to trade with.
I suspect Elon Musk of being behind this.
Teslas will be considered affordable soon, if this actually happens.
Nazis were very pro- automobile, thanks to Hitler's enthusiasm. The cars domestically made but unfortunately fueled by imported gas. The construction of the highways continued even after the war started soaking up vital manpower. Germany enjoyed full employment while the democratic rivals stagnated. I think you may find much to admire in the Nazi economy if you take the trouble to look. Henry Ford was a great admirer of their economic model. Ford was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle by Hitler, along with Thomas Watson, founder of IBM, and Charles Lindbergh, the only American to be so honored.
First it was the left praising Venezuala.
Now it's; much to admire in the Nazi economy.
.... And ..... Hitler Awards!!!
Wow..... I'd like to praise your honesty and only hope most of the left will come out of the closet.
" I’d like to praise your honesty "
Thanks, and you should also retract your charge that Nazis were trying to destroy their car industry. It's a ridiculous charge without any support. I beg you to spend a little time doing research into the matter. Nazis were extremely pro industry and particularly pro auto industry.
And extremely a DEAD ideology after killing thousands of it's own citizens. Do you also praise people who put their hands on the stove because of the benefit of pain tolerance?
The Nazis were never bent on destroying the German auto industry. You have to be a moron to believe that. I've told you twice already and this is the third time. I demand you retract your claim.
" Do you also praise people who put their hands on the stove because of the benefit of pain tolerance?"
Try it and see.
And [Na]tional So[zi]alists were never bent on destroying the USA economy but they’re doing it anyways JUST LIKE Nazi-Germany. A lack of professed intent is no excuse to praise a well-known cursed ideology.
You've moved from plain wrong to incoherent. The Nazis were never bent on destroying the German car industry. The notion is moronic and shows a total ignorance of history and their ideology.
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