Crisis Pregnancy Centers File Free Speech Suits Over Illinois and Vermont Laws
Plus: California tries to stop professors from testifying in suit over COVID education policies, state Republicans aren't all abandoning free market economics, and more...

Groups sue over Illinois and Vermont laws targeting limited-service pregnancy centers. An Illinois measure signed into law last week subjects crisis pregnancy centers to penalties and fines if they employ "unfair or deceptive acts or practices" to entice people in or to dissuade women from using emergency contraception or getting abortions.
The law (S.B. 1909) is being pushed as a fraud deterrence measure. But opponents fear that it will "chill and silence pro-life speech under the guise of 'consumer protection,'" as Peter Breen, executive vice president and head of litigation for the Thomas More Society, said in a statement.
Breen himself is misleading when he says "politicians are targeting these ministries with $50,000 fines and injunctions solely because of their pro-life viewpoint." The real concern is these pro-life centers misrepresenting the services they offer (for instance, by purporting to be clinics offering a full range of reproductive care while actually existing to convince pregnant women not to terminate pregnancies) or misrepresenting staff's medical credentials while spreading false information about the effects of abortions on women—both tactics some crisis pregnancy centers have been slammed for in the past.
But I'm skeptical that the state couldn't go after any fraudulent practices by pregnancy centers under existing laws, and I share Breen's concerns that this measure will be used to target speech.
The law's scope is broad, barring not just "deception" and "fraud" from "limited service pregnancy centers" but also "false pretense, false promise, or misrepresentation," as well as "the concealment, suppression, or omission of any material fact." This gives the state a lot of leeway to go after pro-life pregnancy centers for all sorts of marketing tactics, attempts at persuasion, or statements that blur the line between opinion and fact.
And pro-choice politicians have a history of targeting crisis pregnancy centers in overbroad and overzealous ways. For instance, last year, 21 Democratic senators asked Google to "limit the appearance" of anti-abortion pregnancy centers in search results for abortion.
And California passed a law in 2015 forcing such centers to notify patients about state services, including abortion, for low-income pregnant women. The law was struck down by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2018.
The Thomas More Society is now suing over the Illinois law. A complaint filed July 27 in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Illinois seeks to stop the state's attorney general from enforcing it. The complaint was filed on behalf of several Illinois pregnancy centers and pro-life groups as well as the Institute of Family and Life Advocates (NIFLA).
Breen said that the state has "not had cause to take legal action against pregnancy help centers, using the tools of the law that were already available." And according to Breen, a Freedom of Information Act request filed by his group showed that "the Attorney General has received zero complaints from members of the public against an Illinois Pregnancy Help Center for alleged violations of the Deceptive Business Practices Act."
NIFLA is also suing over a Vermont law regarding crisis pregnancy centers. That law, which took effect in May, states that "it is an unfair and deceptive act and practice…for any limited-services pregnancy center to disseminate or cause to be disseminated to the public any advertising about the services or proposed services performed at that center that is untrue or clearly designed to mislead the public about the nature of services provided."
The NIFLA lawsuit was filed by the Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) and plaintiffs also include two pregnancy care centers. Vermont's law "suppresses the free-speech rights of faith-based pregnancy centers," said ADF Legal Counsel Julia Payne.
"The Vermont Legislature specifically didn't apply this law to anyone except for pro-life facilities," Payne told VTDigger. "It doesn't apply to abortion clinics. It doesn't apply to centers that refer for abortion. And so this law is different, because of that viewpoint discrimination."
But according to the Vermont Attorney General's Office, the discrepancy is because abortion clinics are already subject to the state's false advertising laws, since they charge a fee for their services.
"In the suit, the plaintiffs also call into question the law's provision that only licensed health care providers can provide health care services, information and counselling," notes Vermont Public. "Payne argued that this limits the ability of non-medical centers like Branches to provide 'general pregnancy information, drug store pregnancy tests or counselling about pregnancy options.'"
Vermont Attorney General Charity Clark told Vermont Public that "the law prohibits lying and deception in the marketplace. Who would be against that? I look forward to defending this lawsuit for Vermont."
FREE MINDS
The California Department of Education (CDE) is trying to stop two professors from testifying about COVID-era educational policies. The professors, Sean Reardon and Thomas Dee, were asked to testify on behalf of students who are suing over the state's pandemic education policies. That case is Cayla J. v. State of California.
The ACLU is threatening to sue California for violating the First Amendment rights of two professors.
The professors want to testify against the State in a case about the disastrous learning loss caused by COVID policies, but are being barred from doing so.
The absurd claim is… pic.twitter.com/5sQpziiPB5
— Kevin Kiley (@KevinKileyCA) July 31, 2023
The American Civil Liberties Union of Southern California says it will sue the CDE if it won't let the professors testify.
"Observers say the dispute has the potential to limit who conducts education research in California and what they are able to study because CDE controls the sharing of nonpublic data," notes EdSource's John Fensterwald. "At issue is a restriction that CDE requires researchers to sign as a condition for their gaining access to K-12 data that is not available to the public. The clause, which CDE is interpreting broadly, prohibits the researcher from participating in any litigation against the department, even in cases unrelated to the research they were doing through CDE."
FREE MARKETS
State Republicans aren't all abandoning free market economics.
In which @RameshPonnuru reminds us that the national conservative types are really an unrepresentative DC-centric, DC-focused faction, at least on economics. In the states, Republicans are still doing free-market conservative things. https://t.co/pL8Sp7xdt2
— Ryan Bourne (@MrRBourne) July 31, 2023
"A common claim about Donald Trump's Republican Party" is that "Republicans are well along in the process of jettisoning their old free-market orthodoxy," writes Ramesh Ponnuru at The Washington Post. But in some states, "Republican legislators keep doing what they always do: cutting taxes."
"The party has a stronger protectionist wing than it used to, and it has cooled on trade with China especially," suggests Ponnuru. Besides, "the purity of the party's past free-market convictions has also been exaggerated." But "the biggest changes in the party since the 2016 presidential campaign don't have to do with how it thinks about the size and scope of government."
FOLLOW-UP
Cop who parked squad car on tracks and got woman hit by a train is guilty of reckless endangerment. "A Colorado police officer who put a handcuffed woman in a parked police vehicle that was hit by a freight train has been found guilty of reckless endangerment and assault but was acquitted of a third charge of criminal attempt to commit manslaughter," reports The Denver Post:
Jordan Steinke was the first of two officers to go to trial over the Sept. 16, 2022, crash that left Yareni Rios-Gonzalez seriously injured.
Steinke testified that she did not know that the patrol car of another officer she was helping was parked on the tracks even though they can be seen on her body camera footage along with two railroad crossing signs. Steinke said she was focused on the threat that could come from Rios-Gonzalez and her pickup truck, not the ground.
Reason Roundup covered the incident when it happened back in September 2022. "Rios-Gonzalez stopped her vehicle a little past the railroad tracks when she was pulled over," we noted at the time. "The Platteville cop stopped behind her, on the tracks. He left his car there while detaining Rios-Gonzalez and then continued to leave it parked on the tracks even after she was handcuffed in the back seat, as he and several officers from Fort Lupton searched her car."
Yareni Rios-Gonzalez, then 20, was hospitalized with serious injuries including nine broken ribs, a broken arm, a fractured sternum, and multiple injuries to the head, back, and legs.
NEW: Another point of view from the Platteville Police.
"Was she in there?"
"Oh my god she was in there"And then later…
"Was she in there?"
"She was in there"
"Oh fuck. Oh fuck."This clip has the first min of audio redacted/missing. pic.twitter.com/AvkRQUKLci
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turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
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Rage and seethe, Pluggo
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
You spam the comments with your inane tripe day in and day out.
And somehow the spambots are the least retarded part of this thread.
https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1686010103361622016?t=qsGGToulc9zZubr-l7swBw&s=19
A group in Ohio is holding a youth drag tutorial to teach kids how to be drag queens.
The drag workshop is sponsored by an organization who boasts on their site that they’re entirely funded by tax increases on local residents.
Your tax dollars are funding the grooming of kids.
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Give the groomers a break. They don't reproduce biologically, and if not for indoctrination, their movement would go extinct.
And adults are harder to trick and the pedophile ones find them less fuckable.
Look out Reencog! The Christians have to much power!
https://twitter.com/TONYxTWO/status/1686184152754724864
If they are not blocking anyone's freedom of movement and not disrupting anyone's sleep or nearby events, then, yes those Christians have every right to freedom of speech and expression on a public sidewalk. They might even be great to have a dialogue with if they are sensible or to heckle if they're like the itinerate preachers on the campus of my college days
But Christian Nationalists, Christian Reconstructionists, Christian Identitarians, and all the other flavors of the Christian Right are not only engaged in mere free speech and expression and you know this. Like the Puritans of old, they don't want freedom of religion, but the "freedom" to persecute others over religion.
Who?
Edit: and no, I don’t know this.
Well then, Wiki them up. And know.
"Like the Puritans of old, they don’t want freedom of religion, but the “freedom” to persecute others over religion."
Citation needed.
See this Wiki page, with emphasis on "Education," "Behavioral Regulations," and "Religious Toleration". No Libertarians, these Puritans:
Puritans--Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puritans
So you accuse conservatives of the modern day of acting like Puritans in the 16th and 17th centuries, but DO NOT have any citation that shows this. Instead, you offer an article about those centuries-past religious radicals (NOT conservatives).
It's the worst case I've ever seen of the motte and bailey fallacy.
Devon Archer, Hunter Biden's business partner, gives testimony to Congress that then-VP Joe Biden was on more than 20 business calls with his son
Hunter and Burisma executives 'called D.C.' to discuss the firing of Ukrainian prosecutor
Hunter Biden's business partner Devon Archer told Congress in bombshell testimony... Joe was on the phone or present in-person at least 20 times while his son who called him 'my guy' was talking with foreign associates."
"DailyMail.com reported exclusively this week that Archer was 'in hiding' after receiving 'threats' leading up to his bombshell testimony.>
Devon Archer didn't kill himself.
Looking forward to see what nonsense Jeff, Mike and the two Shrikes narrative control will be? Here's a preview:
"Goldman - lead counsel on the first Trump impeachment and the only Democrat present in the room of the testimony - told reporters that Archer 'indicated that Hunter spoke to his father every day, and approximately 20 times over the course of a 10 year relationship, Hunter may have put his father on the phone with any number of different people, and they never once spoke about any business dealings...
Goldman explained Archer's testimony of the phone calls as such: sometimes Hunter would be at dinner with business partners and take a call from his dad who didn't know who else was at the table and put it on speaker phone. 'There was no indication that he had any idea who was at dinner with them. It was just to say, 'Hello I'm at dinner' and there was nothing related to his business dealings.'
That's right, Joe just joined in on his son's hustles to talk about dinner.
He’s a bit of a blowhard for my tastes, but this is good:
“The democrats are correct:
Outside of the bank records, the suspicious activity reports, the wire transfers, the Privat bank transactions, the LLCs, the texts, the emails, the WhatsApp messages, the photos of Joe with Hunter’s business partners, the voicemails to his son, the two business partners saying Joe is the “brand,” the “big guy,” and “the chairman,” the two whistleblowers testimony, the recorded phone calls between Biden and Poroshenko, the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian prosecutor, and Hunter’s statements that he’s giving his dad half his income, there is NO evidence of Joe Biden being involved.
Good call guys.”
https://twitter.com/dbongino/status/1686105431444168704
I'm stealing that as a canned reply to Buttplug.
I love the NYT claiming Biden being on the calls was "long known".
Who doesn’t put their dad on the phone during business meetings to talk about the weather?
I’m just curious how ludicrous the leftist propagandists will get with this story.
If I was a corrupt foreign scam artist, hearing Joe talk about the weather wold certainly be worth a couple of million a year.
In the setting of months of denials that Biden knew anything about Hunter's business dealings and was completely oblivious to anything involving it, and the two never even spoke of it.
Standard playbook, move from "its not happening" to "its happening and its not a big deal" seamlessly. NPC's will gladly parrot out the talking points. Nothing to see here.
McCarthy needs to impeach. Im fine spending the rest of Biden's presidency in Hunter impeachment hearings, honestly best case scenario with dem prez and senate. Grind it to a halt.
"Hunter impeachment hearings"?
Dual purpose:
Both impeaching Joe due to his corruption involving Hunter, and impeaching Hunter for his terrible art.
We can do both at the same time
Hunter's 'art' is a peach of a paint job.
“impeaching Hunter for his terrible art”
I’m all for that!
i'd like to get Carl Bernstein's take on this....
McCarthy won't do shit. Why the hell are they not conducting public hearings?.
The official NYT category is "old news".
Goldman was absolutely hilarious last night. Expect his talking points to be repeated by the loser left here this morning. It was all talk about weather after all. (Mike) everyone already knew this but you wer wounding conspiracy theories. (Sarc) Goldman is so hot (chem jeff)
Who doesn’t put their dad on the phone during business meetings to talk about the weather?
I’m just curious how ludicrous the leftist propagandists will get with this story.
Not sure why this posted in both places. Couldn’t get the site to load after I tried to post it this am.
Mike needs to donate more. Their servers sucked today.
KMW needs to feed the hamsters more often.
Sullum might have gotten hold of one of them.
Sullum trying his best Richard Gere impression?
That would require a gerbil, not a hamster.
Right. The hamsters are for Über-chauffeuring the KIA Soul.
🙂
2010 Kia Soul Hamster Commercial
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I'm with you there. Posting for me was iffy today. I chalked it up to weather affecting local Internet service, but I got on another site all right.
And Govna Shrike will call you an anti-semite for quoting Goldman
Odd how the wingnut narrative quickly shifted from HUNTER BIDEN FAKE BRIBERY SCANDAL! to JOE WAS ON THE PHONE AT THE SAME TIME WITH HUNTERS CRONIES!
So Old Joe called Hunter while he was in a meeting? According to a convicted felon?
Why don't you just get OJ to blame his two murders on Joe?
What you're claiming was the "change" in the scandal is the scandal. Always been part of it. Joe being deeply involved was ALWAYS part of the scandal and dolts like you claimed he had nothing --- literally nothing --- to do with it.
Not really. The scandal is supposed to be that payments from Hunter and Jim Biden’s business partners have found their way into Joe Biden’s pockets.
I know what I said will be intentionally misinterpreted, so I’ll clearly state, again, that I am not denying that Joe Biden was on the take. He may well have been.
It may be the case, though, that he has covered his tracks well enough no smoking gun will ever be found. Or maybe the smoking gun will be found soon. I don’t claim to know.
Also, I will repeat that I consider it an ethical failing that Joe Biden didn’t shut down Hunter’s profiting off the family name. And Joe Biden may well be a shitty parent. But none of that is impeachable.
Taking bribes from foreigners isn’t impeachable? Jeezum
But asking foreigners if Joe was taking bribes from foreigners is definitely impeachable.
Just ask Mike if Trump's first impeachment is legit. He'll tell you all about it.
There is no proof, you imbecile.
GOP asshats jack their jaws about "shell companies" because they can't find an original transaction that moves money to Joe Biden.
170 SARs requests. Bank wire transfers. Emails. Texts. Multiple witnesses.
No proof.
You’re a liar who was banned for posting kiddie porn.
"There is no proof"
Except for bank records, suspicious activity reports, wire transfers,
Privat bank transactions, LLCs, texts, emails, WhatsApp messages, photos, voicemails, business partners testimony, whistleblowers testimony, recorded phone calls, video, and Hunter’s statements.
Almost nothing.
Back to #DefendBidenAtAllCosts, Pluggo? You're so ridiculous, it's beyond comical.
“There is no proof….”
You guys might wanna think about how often you need to say this lately. Is it really worth it to defend such scummy people?
When you take into account how scummy Shrike is...
Anything is impeachable. We spent the last like 8 years on this topic.
They did find their way into his pockets Mikey.
The 5M unexplained from Celtics Corp
Shared bank accounts with Hunter
Hunter saying in texts he gives half to Joe
Emails showing Hunter paid for the house and repairs Joe lived in.
Paying 10 different family members reducing expenses or asks to Joe himself
I like how you think embezzlement isn't a crime as long as the send the money to a family member and not directly to a person.
He's just a fucktard and Democratic shill.
No.
You're the only one who insisted that this was a "HUNTER BIDEN FAKE BRIBERY SCANDAL".
Everyone else correctly implicated "The Big Guy" from the start.
You're pretty much useless until your talking points come in, aren't you?
Okay, so the 10% the "Big Guy" owed was a bar tab and no money changed hands.
I'm glad you see that finally.
Remember that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Lol, Burisma was a "bar tab"?
Does your boss know you're just phoning it in today?
He’s been trying to use this bullshit excuse from the beginning.
It seriously shows what an ignorant fuck he is that he even thinks anyone would fall for 10% of million dollar business deals going towards the bar tab.
he presents as very desperate to gaslight the issue
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
It was just the illusion of influence peddling. MS media told me so.
not a smidgen
Hunter would be at dinner... There was no indication that he had any idea who was at dinner with them. It was just to say, ‘Hello I’m at dinner’
JFC. It's full-retard self-implication all the way down. Even hearing and guilt/innocence completely aside, seems exceedingly likely the dude would fucking bury the survivors of a airliner crash. How someone who can't keep straight the fact that if *I* call someone who's at dinner, that doesn't (necessarily) mean *I'm* at dinner straight got to be in charge of anything besides filing paperwork with copious supervision is astounding.
Archers testimony about Burisma going with Hunter to call DC and a week later Joe is threatening Ukraine of Shokin is the tell. Nuland during impeachment 1 exposed by accident how a year prior the State Department was praising Shokin.
This shows that the House has enough evidence to impeach without even looking at Hunter's laptop.
LOL, so you're saying they can impeach Joe Biden over making phone calls. The irony.
Sorry, Shillington Shillsworth.
They can impeach him over the bank records,
the suspicious activity reports,
the wire transfers,
the Privat bank transactions,
the LLCs,
the texts,
the emails,
the WhatsApp messages,
the photos of Joe with Hunter’s business partners,
the voicemails to his son,
the two business partners saying Joe is the “brand,” the “big guy,” and “the chairman,”
the two whistleblowers testimony,
the recorded phone calls between Biden and Poroshenko,
the video of Joe Biden bragging about firing the Ukrainian prosecutor,
and Hunter’s statements that he’s giving his dad half his income.
H/T RMac
McCarthy won't have enough votes to impeach.
So?
Dee needs a signed and witnessed admission from Joe before he’ll believe it.
Or maybe a Joe Biden Burisma employee ID badge would work.
But Trump is guilty of all the novel crimes no questions asked.
Hey, who is more frightening (and therefore guilty) to your average purple-haired, gender-confused barista with an MA in literature, $40k in student loans, and clinical levels of anxiety and depression?
"In March 2016, Joe Biden is alleged to have threatened to withhold $1 billion in aid to Ukraine if Shokin was not fired for corruption."
It's not alleged. Biden bragged about in an interview on TV.
Well, ya gotta understand, this is a very complex bar tab being discussed. These things can take years to settle up.
From "abortion must be a legal option" to "abortion must be the only legal option". What's next, "abortion is the required option"?
China the model. Don't violate their one child policy.
Only for certain groups. For equity and the environment.
How did this get missed?
FBI: Peter Strzok Worked For The CIA Under Obama
https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/peter-strzok-worked-for-cia-under-obama/
So in the last two days we find out Strzok was an undercover CIA agent planted in the bureau by NeverTrumper Brennan, Joe was present by phone on Hunter's hustles and shakedowns, and the FBI used a WaPo newspaper article as their secret, redacted source in their FISA applications to spy on Page.
What are the odds that Reason will cover any of these local stories before the next election?
Let's consult the Magic 8 Ball.
Magic 8 Ball says, "the odds don't look good."
local stories
To be fair, they are "local" to the DC area. Not like anything that goes on there has any impact outside of DC. /sarc
So in the last two days we find out Strzok was an undercover CIA agent planted in the FBI by NeverTrumper Brennan, Joe was present by phone on Hunter's hustles and shakedowns, and the FBI used a WaPo newspaper article as their secret, redacted source in their FISA applications to spy on Page.
What are the odds that Reason will cover any of these local stories before the next election?
Looks like you’re having the same problem with the site? My comments are taking forever loading on my phone.
The crazy thing though is that article is from ‘18.
Reason's comment section seems to be having trouble even via computer today. It's not just phones.
Trouble installing the new Reason-FBI screening algorithm?
Strzok's previous texts about having an 'insurance policy' re:Trump looking even better
Imagine being so evil, that you are against informing women they have a choice other than abortion. ENB is not pro-choice, she really is just pro-abortion.
ENB didn’t say a word against them in the above blog post. In fact, she was supportive of their free speech rights, as is the ACLU.
Breen himself is misleading
Literally the sentence prior to his quote. She is calling him a liar.
Mike Liarson claiming that calling someone a liar isn’t saying a word against them tells you all you need to know about Mike Liarson.
Mike is an obtuse moron. He does not understand the entire article is written to castigate pro-life centers for "tricking" women into not getting abortions. Oblivious tools like him are most easily swayed by this kind of of propaganda. The only reason ENB is bringing up the law is to highlight what she believes is malfeasence on the part of pregnancy crisis centers. But at least she included the obligatory "the state has no business here" framing.
And I suspect that you are a hardcore anti-abortion, probably for religious reasons, that is so sensitive to any possible contradiction of your views that you go off on a hair trigger on nothing more than someone doing straight, non-editorializing reporting on current events related to abortion, and even defending an anti-abortion groups rights to free speech.
Cite?
One need not be religious to be anti-abortion. There's plenty of good, solid science to back up a view like that.
I’m an atheist and I’m against abortion.
Not religious. I'm just against people being allowed to kill their unborn children. I know it is contempable position for anti-religous bigots like you who think they are just clumps of cells. That ideaology is probably why you are also an ardent defender of pedophilia.
“That ideaology is probably why you are also an ardent defender of pedophilia.”
I am? What in the world have I ever said that would lead you to make such an accusation?
Are you stoning an abortionist to death right now? If not, then you're obviously in favor of molesting children. That's just logic!
“I’m just against people being allowed to kill their unborn children.”
What about in the first days when it is indisputably still a clump of cells?
That's just mean...
to actual morons.
Mike isn't a moron, he's an obfuscating, disingenuous, tone-deaf, obtuse asshole who refuses to see facts lying right in front of his face. And when someone dares rub those facts in his face, he mutes the messenger so he can revel in his disingenuous ignorance.
He also doesn't seem to understand that no matter how hard he simps, ENB isn't going to fuck him.
And no matter how hard you suck up to the Mean Girls they aren’t going to fuck you … or maybe they would.
Strawcasmic is that you? Is white mike also sarc? Seems they both like the mean girls dodge.
I hear they love pegging cynical assholes.
So the State has no business in busting con-artists? What the Hell is she thinking?
(And, no. If Herr Misek is in town *Uh-Oh!* I’m talking about actual fraud, not swapping lies in a fishing boat, surprise parties, liars’ contests, company secret proprietary information, and hiding fugitive slaves or Holocaust victims.)
There are plenty of laws to deal with fraud. The law mentioned in the article is a defacto bill of attainder against pro-life groups.
Lose the scare quotes around "tricking". Some of these centers do engage in genuinely dishonest behavior. They tell blatant lies that wildly exaggerate the risks of abortion. If someone feels the need to lie to advance their agenda, I have to question just how noble that agenda really is.
Well, it seems he might not be entirely truthful if the claims about misrepresenting what services they offer, or the qualifications of the staff are true.
Which claims zeb? They never claimed to provide abortions because they don't think abortions are care. I agree with them. Choosing not to use the language the left pushes as a narrative does not make them misleading.
So I went and looked at the Il state government statements.
The advertisements and information given by these organizations provide grossly inaccurate or misleading information overstating the risks associated with abortion, including conveying untrue claims that abortion causes cancer or infertility and concealing data that shows the risk of death associated with childbirth is approximately 14 times higher than the risk of death associated with an abortion.
Now I’ve seen the studies that support these claims but I bet the state is exaggerating them. But even if not, then we are in another Covid misinformation type arena where the state determines truth. Are you okay with that?
The state is overstating their claims. It wouldn't be like Governor Commodius Maximus and AG Kwame Raoul to lie now, would it?
Sorry but reproductive care or choice does not equal abortion and only abortion. Only evil people think that and only stupid people don't see the lie in the leftist phrasing and narrativesm
leftist phrasing and narrativesm
So what is the author of a story supposed to do? Correct the "leftist" phrasing? Refute the “leftist" narrative? Have a disclaimer at the bottom apologizing for using "leftist" wording?
I'm starting to think the people in these comments who use the word "leftist" with any seriousness have no fucking idea of what it means.
Oh the fucking irony of your last sentence.
Fine, we'll just add "irony" to the (long) list of words you don't understand.
I’m starting to think the people in these comments who use the word “
leftistconservative” with any seriousness have no fucking idea of what it means.FIFY.
Sadly that word has been coopted and shat on by Trump and his followers. It used to mean small government, free trade, adherence to the Constitution, and resistance to the regulatory state. Now it just means Trump and culture war.
Your neocon tears are hilarious.
Remember when sarc supported the US proxy war with Russia in Ukraine? I do.
It’s gotten really weird watching all the idiots that called me a Trump cultist while claiming themselves true libertarians deflect for the most dangerous war since the cold war.
In what is clearly becoming a war caused by our government’s corruption.
When the second reason I liked Trump was that he was the first president in my lifetime that didn’t initiate any military conflict. First being tax cuts.
Did it ever occur to you that the Culture War comes from the progressives who first wage attacks on everyone else, then scream bloody murder when someone (usually on the right) 1) calls them on it, 2) moves to block their culture attacks, and 3) retaliates.
They know exactly what it means: "Anything I don't like!" Why bother engaging with facts or logic when you can just squawk "Left!/Right!/Fascist!/Communist!"? No need to engage opposing viewpoints or examine your own. Just grab that poo, and start flinging!
You're arguing with people who failed reading comprehension in grade school.
If you weren't such a fucking idiot and had actually read today's Roundup, you would have realized Mike was the one with the reading comprehension fail. Not Spiritus Mundi.
Best I can tell, Mike and sarc are among the very few people who actually read the articles instead of arguing with the voices in their head or just skipping straight to the shit flinging. Or maybe they're like me and somehow don't get the Bizarro World edition a lot of commenters seem to be reading.
This looks extra retarded after the quote was posted. Lol.
Thought you had muted me? Guess I will have to try harder.
We believe in you.
Don't fret. He's threatened to mute me several times to no avail.
Sorry but you're just not stupid enough.
At least I'll never get anywhere near that drunk.
Could you ask him for the list first?
Self-awareness is not your strong suit there, Sarco.
Sorry but your buddy ML wore out that bit of gaslighting years ago.
Lol, still don’t know what gaslighting means.
I’m starting to think the people in these comments who use the word “
leftistgaslighting” with any seriousness have no fucking idea of what it means.You might be somewhat slightly dangerous if you actually understood what the term “gaslighting” really means.
The real concern is these pro-life centers misrepresenting the services they offer (for instance, by purporting to be clinics offering a full range of reproductive care while actually existing to convince pregnant women not to terminate pregnancies) or misrepresenting staff's medical credentials while spreading false information about the effects of abortions on women
Maybe abortion clinics should be shutdown that “misrepresent” the availability of adoption services?
How does that BOAF SIDES sound to the “reproductive freedom” legal experts at Reason?
I know it. How dare they report on what's in the news? That's total bullshit. If they were real reporters they'd make this all about abortion clinics misrepresenting adoption services, Biden, and the stolen election. Instead they report on the law and the lawsuit. What a bunch of hacks.
"How dare they report on what’s in the news"
Oh, so that's what they were doing. It used to be called 'apologetics'.
You consider Reason/ENB’s incessant abortion culture war bullshit “covering the news”?
If it bleeds it leads.
Oof. I'm going to hell for laughing at that.
You're right. If she was a true libertarian she'd be defending Trump and attacking Biden, or defending DeSantis and attacking Disney. The fact that she's not defending Republicans and not attacking Democrats means she's a leftist.
Amirite?
How many times are you going to post this terrible and ignorant strawman? When will you look up the definition of selection bias?
Yes. She is doing her job as the morning links poster -- posting links to current event news stories.
Does she select the stories? Maybe with a bias?
It’s not her fault it’s left wing propaganda.
I will not LOOK AWAY:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-66362970
A zoo in eastern China has reassured visitors its sun bears are real rather than humans in disguise, after footage of one animal standing like a person sent rumours flying online.
At minimum a real person.
Why’s that bear wearing Nike’s?
They were in the trunk it was in.
If we feed it a turducken, will it sit back down?
You can’t feed them that high tech lab grown turducken.
I donr know but putting a bear in shoes created a new GMO super bear.
Knock-off Nikes, more likely.
"Confidence in the U.S. military has hit its lowest level in two decades."
That's unfair.
I'd rather have our modern LGBTQIA+ inclusive military than one that's preoccupied with outdated concepts like "decisively winning wars."
#DiversityAboveAll
“Confidence in the U.S. military has hit its lowest level in two decades.”
Because a certain party platform favors rendering the military ineffective, and then proceeds to drain the petroleum reserve, abandon a gazillion dollars of equipment in Afghanistan, give the rest away to Ukraine, force the warriors out and replaces them with lifetime medical/mental welfare cases.
How could that possibly reduce confidence?
On the plus side it does leave the citizenry as the definitively best armed group in the country.
We can't have nice things, because retards like bohem vote for traitorous pedofile fascists, and support libertine lifestyles
'Oh wow' doesn't cut it anymore:
Deception by Redaction: More FBI FISA Abuses, This Time Using Fake News in the Washington Post
For example, the FBI tried to justify continuing to spy on Page in early 2017 by indicating to the secret FISA court that it had verified a rumor about Page receiving dirt on Hillary Clinton from the Russian government and facilitating a “well-developed conspiracy of cooperation” with the Kremlin to swing the 2016 election in Trump’s favor. But the bureau had corroborated no such thing. Its source was a front-page report in the Washington Post – one the newspaper later retracted after determining it was false, according to two former U.S. officials who have seen the original, unredacted FISA applications and described the passages to RCI.
The embarrassing revelation hasn’t been previously reported thanks to redactions blacking out references to the Washington Post article in the still-partially classified applications.
The fact they hid WaPo as a source or means in a classified addendum is stunning.
"We had to redact our sources name for the sake of their privacy"
*Later...*
"Our source was the Washington Post"
Absolute clown world. These were the people claiming that the grownups were back in charge.
I foresee a sternly worded letter from the court.
(for instance, by purporting to be clinics offering a full range of reproductive care while actually existing to convince pregnant women not to terminate pregnancies)
Termination of pregnancy stops reproduction. It can not be labeled care. Odd you push the use if reproductive care while calling others dishonest.
Drowning your seven year old in the bathtub is a form of childcare.
USSA in action.
Seeing that the mainstream news outlets are reporting this morning how Trump is doing well in the polls and ignoring that Hunter’s business partner testified under oath yesterday that the current President is likely a co-conspirator in foreign business deals feels dystopian.
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Reason is no exception. This is indeed dystopian.
Majority of Americans see the issues with the elections ran in 2020 and support verifying who the voter is and that the person voting is who they say they are. Majority support Voter ID and limiting mail in balloting.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/07/31/exclusive-poll-shows-majority-of-americans-support-voter-id-limited-mail-in-voting/
Trans patient who had genital reconstruction is in such pain they are now requesting euthanasia. If only she was 10 years old when she started she'd be used to it by now. Jazz Jennings is doing great.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12349523/Trans-indigenous-Canadian-slams-doctors-denying-euthanasia-request-saying-death-free-agony-surgically-built-vagina.html
The govt can encourage kids to pursue this lifestyle that will destroy them, then collect tax payer money to help them with gender affirming care, provided by beloved big pharma partners, then when they get suicidal they can provide a tax payer funded, govt provided euthanasia trip to the hospital.
Everyone wins! Govt gets more money and power, big pharma gets more money and power, healthcare industry gets more money and power, kids....well they lived their truth
kids….well they lived their truth
For however long it took between the "gender affirming care" and the ... "death affirming care" (I guess).
Just as planned. Chemjeff chortles with delight.
Jack Smith has a long history of prosecutorial abuses going after politicial targets.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/ex-virginia-gov-who-saw-conviction-by-jack-smith-thrown-out-says-hed-rather-win-than-get-it-right
"it is an unfair and deceptive act and practice…for any limited-services pregnancy center to disseminate or cause to be disseminated to the public any advertising about the services or proposed services performed at that center that is untrue or clearly designed to mislead the public about the nature of services provided."
I am so old that I remember what English language words actually mean, and that perfectly describes a facility that signs itself as a center for women's health, and will never discuss continuing a pregnancy. I expect those states to begin prosecuting Planned Parenthood this year. All they plan is non-parenthood.
+1
Another day, another male professional athlete in his prime with heart issues:
https://www.denverpost.com/2023/07/31/broncos-waive-k-j-hamler-with-non-football-illness-designation/
Small price to pay so Jeff doesn't have to go on a diet.
I’d love to see a good study on the number of professional athletes with heart issues per year over the last decade.
They did one in 2021 or so and heart attacks were way up for athletes.
'Vermont Attorney General Charity Clark told Vermont Public that "the law prohibits lying and deception in the marketplace. Who would be against that? I look forward to defending this lawsuit for Vermont."'
We must stamp out marketplace misinformation!
Is Planned Parenthood in trouble? They always claim that they do mamograms and literally none of them do it.
For funsies, I Googled "Planned Parenthood Men's Health" and the first thing that came up was this. Nota bien:
So, in a decade, you doubled, but actually only increased by 76% your numbers, and, of that 76% increase, ~80% was strictly for STD *testing* which has *nothing* to do with parenthood.
It's like Great Clips saying they offer medical services because they hand out suckers after you get a haircut the way the doctor gives you a sucker after you get vaccinated... except Great Clips is a for-profit organization that offers price-competitive service based on their perception of market demand in an otherwise politically untouched market.
Oh, they probably just claimed the increase in "male" patients from all the transmen that go there for hormones.
I'm sure you have a cite you can share.
Because first thing I found in a Google search is a cite saying that Planned Parenthood supporters, not any Planned Parenthood spokesperson, "always claim that they do mamograms [sic]" based on a Democratic Representative's (also not a Planned Parenthood spokesperson) comment about Planned Parenthood:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/10/02/the-repeated-misleading-claim-that-planned-parenthood-provides-mammograms/
Maloney did not directly say the organization administers mammograms. Later in the hearing, she said a similar claim in a more accurate way — that women have “access” to mammograms via Planned Parenthood. (More on this later.) But her comments made us wonder just how prevalent this claim was among Planned Parenthood supporters at large.
So they didn’t have official laminated membership cards?
Weird way to attack democrats who kept repeating the lie under Obama. Yet they still got a half true rating on the lies.
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2015/aug/03/martin-omalley/97-planned-parenthoods-work-mammograms-preventive-/
The problem though Mike is here is video of the PP CEO making the claim.
https://youtu.be/aq0kBkUZbvQ
As others have pointed out, he's just trolling them now.
Musk says X won’t leave San Francisco despite city facing ‘doom spiral’
Yeah.
And the corrupt Garland DOJ will file it in the trash can.
Rand Paul announces ‘official criminal referral,’ says email shows Fauci COVID testimony ‘absolutely a lie’
If the Republicans were worth a damn they’d use that response as grounds to impeach Garland. Plus, you know, all the political persecutions.
Is John Kerry The Next Hitler? Episode 54:
"Agriculture contributes about 33% of all the emissions of the world. And we can’t get to net zero—we don’t get this job done—unless agriculture is front and centre as part of the solution."
"You just can’t continue to both warm the planet, while also expecting to feed it. It doesn’t work. So we have to reduce emissions from the food system."
The next Goebbels, anyway.
We all see where this headed... You can't get to "net zero" trying to eliminate the processes, so we must then eliminate the demand... And how we do that is thru population control. Limit the number of folks taxing the limited resources and carbon capacity... Problem solved.
He's the next Stalin.
Kerry's neither. Hitler and Stalin didn't have long faces.
🙂
He's more like a horse-faced Chairman Mao.
A pony-faced dog soldier?
🙂
😉
Stalin is where I'd go with the plan to starve millions to death.
"You just can’t continue to both warm the planet, while also expecting to feed it."...
Has anyone been like...."but I mean you can though, crops like it warm..."
I wonder how long this phase of "if we try hard enough we can predict and control the weather" humanity will last. People always need some form of religion. This is the left's. Have they tried rain dances?
Crops actually require less water as C02 increases.
Throughout human history, agricultural productivity has gone up with warmer temperatures. The worst famines have always occurred in the coldest years. (See 536AD, "the worst year to be alive" and 1816AD, "the year without a summer").
The best way to reduce demand is to force all the global climate warming change crowd to "voluntarily" stop exhaling carbon dioxide.
Once that step is complete, there will be no demand to reduce global climate warming change
Sounds like a plan.
We can't get to net zero with all the food-production-based agricultural emissions, but paying people to plant trees at a loss as carbon sinks is our ticket out.
Vegan raw food diet influencer Zhanna D’Art dies of starvation
Veganism is an eating disorder.
Robert Downey Jr may be next by the way he looks
Steinke said she was focused on the threat that could come from Rios-Gonzalez and her pickup truck, not the ground.
Of, you know, the freight train.
In the states, Republicans are still doing free-market conservative things.
A few more rungs up the ladder should cure them of that.
The FBI made "inappropriate use" of its foreign surveillance program to spy on U.S. citizens, a White House advisory board says.
But no need to strip them of that program, of course.
Or charge anyone with anything, or send them to jail.
Would be a shame if this clip of Joe Biden brazenly, blatantly, knowingly lying to every reporter in America went viral.
And whataboutism as well.
A federal judge has temporarily blocked Arkansas from enforcing a law that allowed librarians and booksellers to be criminally charged for allowing minors to access "harmful" material.
Harmful like Milton Friedman!
Or L. Neil Smith
Confidence in the U.S. military has hit its lowest level in two decades.
The military's two moms still believe in xim.
I was amazed at how quickly the military fell. Obama definitely knew what he was doing when he fired all the generals and promoted the ideologues.
And this is exactly why they cannot let a non-establishment president (like Trump) win the White house, since they have come out of the closet we all know who is part of the cabal in the military, FBI and CIA etc. and the first thing as president they would do is remove them by any means necessary. After seeing what they did to Trump they could not risk it happening to them and now we know who they are while Trump was blind to them.
Uh huh. Trump, the great swamp clearer, was tricked. It couldn’t be that he failed to drain the swamp because he is a lazy, incompetent, self-focused moron.
The 20th-century conceit that a technocratic elite should replace politically accountable appointees is based on the myth of disinterested agreement about the 'right kind of civilization...'
Skynet is the natural successor.
A Tennessee man drowned last year as police watched and actively discouraged others from helping the man...
This suit hinges, I would think, on just how "active" they were.
Isn't FYTW an absolute defense?
No need for that nonsense.
No cop has ever before stopped a rescue in that exact spot, for that exact number of minutes, so QI.
They need more training so they will know next time not to accept the offer of a boat and flotation devices, even if it could be on the scene much more quickly than their own boat dispatch is trying to get.
"Hunter sold 'illusion of access' to Joe Biden: Ex-business partner"
[...]
"Hunter Biden's ex-business partner alleged that Hunter used his father and US President Joe Biden's name for advantage and sold the "illusion of access" to his father by taking credit for things Joe did as VP. He claimed that Hunter would often put his father on speakerphone to impress clients. He, however, added Joe wasn't involved in their financial dealings."
https://inshorts.com/en/news/hunter-sold-illusion-of-access-to-joe-biden-exbusiness-partner-1690885681556#:~:text=Hunter%20Biden%27s%20ex-business%20partner%20alleged%20that%20Hunter%20used,taking%20credit%20for%20things%20Joe%20did%20as%20VP.
Pretty sure that's spelled "Influence Peddling".
Well technically, it could just be fraud. Hunter sold a tall tale and poor innocent Joe did nothing.
And still collected his 10%
...the enormous lit-up X he had erected in recent days atop the former Twitter's Market Street headquarters was unceremoniously removed.
Even freedom's savior can't stand up to the bureaucrats.
https://babylonbee.com/news/san-francisco-demands-elon-musk-remove-bright-sign-disturbing-people-trying-to-poop-on-street
Is that blonde in the stock photo above Kat Timpf? That skinny bitch won't get pregnant. The fat ones are fertile though.
turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
She's your new Sarah Palin, isn't she.
What a disgusting person you are.
In my experience he's typical of liberal straight males who go out of their way to tell everyone how much they support abortion.
#TheJossWhedonPrinciple
Women should have no fears of abortion hanging around that perv.
Woke-fishing.
>>Illinois measure ... subjects crisis pregnancy centers to penalties and fines if they employ "unfair or deceptive acts or practices"
because they didn't fall under DTPA already?
So I see the way Reason finally stopped embedding Twitter links was for Elon to change the name of the company. Who says the free market doesn't work?
What is wrong with Twitter links?
• "The 20th-century conceit that a technocratic elite should replace politically accountable appointees is based on the myth of disinterested agreement about the 'right kind of civilization,'" writes Virginia Postrel.
This collection of words and syllables was so dense and enigmatic, I decided to read through the link for more clarity. Amazingly, I got less.
The Power to Regulate Is the Power to Destroy
And some odds and end
Some odds and ends indeed. In a world of our hyperregulated world, with zillion-pound-hammer government agencies maintaining offices in our largest media organizations, the near top-to-bottom capture of every institution, a presidential administration and attached entire party that is trying to ban your car by 2035, vaccine mandates, shady research which likely resulted in the a global catastrophe that reduced human freedom by alarming levels-- defended by the technocratic elite and its stenographers in the media, Ms. Postrel weaves aimlessly between Trump being mean, some transgenders in Florida might find some increased difficulty in getting their "maintenance hormones" (amazing how a thing that's a social construct requires a lot of ongoing medical intervention, eh?) and then some rumblings on the history of the FDA-- you know, that agency that Libertarians point to which would keep over-the-counter drugs safe if they were legalized? Yeah, that regulation.
If Postrel would just see how wonderful Trump is once you get past the superficial meanness.
Yep, that's exactly what I was suggesting.
Ms Postrel needs to don her MAGA hat and GET ON the Trump Train!
Yeah! My critique has NOTHING to do with how Ms Postrel comes off a little... let's be polite and say, "less than topical" in that she's sitting in the Ardennes forest and bitching about Ludendorff, or sitting in a WWI trench, suffering a gas attack and whining about Napoleon.
But let me guess, you, like Nick Gillespie gets exited when you walk by the magazine rack and see Bob Dylan on the cover of Rolling Stone.
Whatever. You are the one that complained that Postrel is too fixated on Trump’s meanness. If only these old farts would realize that civility is for squares, man.
> state Republicans aren't all abandoning free market economics
There are indeed a few Republican politicos in California that indeed recognize the value of free markets. McClintock is one for example. But there are also a whole gaggle of them that can't even spell free.
I recall when a perennial Republican candidate showed up at our meetup where we aired an episode of Milton Friedman's "Free to Choose". This candidate, 80 years of age, active in state Republican politics for at least fifty years, had NEVER heard of Milton Friedman. I found this shocking.
I've got no idea how common or rare free market attitudes are in the party, but like all things in life, it's a mixed bag. The Tea Party in the state was at first all about cutting the spending. Then it morphed into kulturwar. And today much of the state party does seem to be all kulturwar all the time. But there are still seeds of sane economic thinking still left, and they need to be nurtured.
Just how fucking stupid do you have to be to park your car on railroad tracks? And how on earth can you fail to notice you're on a rail crossing? These people not only shouldn't be cops, they probably shouldn't be allowed out of the house alone.