Getting Cozy With the Too Online 'New Right' Hasn't Worked Out for DeSantis
After firing the staffer blamed for a video that borrowed Nazi imagery, is Ron DeSantis finally backing away from the authoritarian edgelords?

When Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis hired 25-year-old Nate Hochman to be a campaign speechwriter in March, it sent an unambiguous message about the direction of the governor's presidential bid.
Among the cadre of young culture warriors within the so-called "New Right," Hochman had already distinguished himself as someone to watch—and not always in the right ways. While collecting bylines at National Review and The New York Times, Hochman had also cozied up to Nick Fuentes, a well-known white nationalist, and pushed for a more illiberal conservative movement. Republicans can no longer afford to support "value-neutral liberty," he told the right-wing publication American Moment in 2022, and must instead "assert a positive vision of the good" that would require the conservative movement to "cohere around the culture war as its organizing, totalizing force."
By bringing Hochman onto his campaign, then, DeSantis was sending a bi-directional message. It was yet another nod to the New Right that DeSantis was taking seriously their views about the role of government as a force to be deployed in the culture war. And it was an indication that DeSantis believed embracing that faction, warts and all, was part of the path to winning the Republican nomination and ultimately the presidency.
In the four months since then, things haven't gone as planned for DeSantis—although he's gotten exactly what he bargained for.
Let's start with the polls. DeSantis stood at nearly 30 percent in the Real Clear Politics polling average in mid-March, about a dozen points behind Trump. Today, the Republican governor is at a polling average of 18 percent, a staggering 34 points behind Trump.
Polls, especially at this stage of the campaign, are only so useful. Still, that monthslong swoon nicely contextualizes how DeSantis seems to have alienated himself by rushing to embrace the right wing's too-online fringe.
The most recent misstep was a video containing Nazi and fascist imagery distributed last week on Twitter by an account loosely affiliated with the DeSantis campaign—and immediately retweeted by Hochman. That came on the heels of a controversy created by another video, also reportedly made by the DeSantis campaign, that criticized Trump for his tolerant views toward gay and transgender people—and that implied DeSantis would roll back rights for those groups. Amid those acute moments, there's been a steady drip of reporting suggesting that the DeSantis campaign's fixation on the culture war was alienating key Republican donors and more moderate voters.
Those issues all extend beyond Hochman, of course, but the prominent young staffer was a symbol of the campaign's willingness to engage with the edgelordy politics of the far right. Indeed, just hours after Semafor reported Tuesday that Hochman (along with more than 30 others) had been fired from the DeSantis campaign as part of a "reset" in strategy, Axios reported that Hochman created the recent video containing Nazi symbolism.
In the same way that bringing Hochman aboard might have been seen as an indication of what type of candidate DeSantis hoped to be, Hochman's departure serves as a tidy illustration of what's clearly not working for the DeSantis camp. In both instances, the important story isn't the hiring or firing of Hochman personally, but rather what that specific staffing decision says about DeSantis' relationship with the nationalist New Right movement—a relationship that seems to be costing DeSantis more than it is helping him.
In fairness, not all of DeSantis' campaign struggles can be tied to Hochman and the wider New Right. The conservative movement as a whole is largely animated these days by grievance politics, and no one traffics in grievance politics better than Trump.
Still, it's worth it for DeSantis to try a reboot. There remains ample time before the first votes are cast and there's still no one else better positioned to make a run at Trump. Rather than trying to outflank Trump to the GOP's relatively small authoritarian-curious fringe with Nazi memes, DeSantis should try making a principled case to the party's many Trump-skeptical members. Doing so will require reminding Republican primary voters of Trump's obvious liabilities in a general election—and the former president's tolerant views toward gay Americans aren't anywhere near the top of that list.
Regardless of whether DeSantis successfully pivots his campaign, the past few months stand as a useful lesson about the relative political power of the New Right. Both those within the movement and those covering it often refer to the fractious illiberal conservatives as "populists"—but that might be too flattering of a description. DeSantis leaned hard into the reactionary politics and online culture-warring that defines the moment and now finds himself more distant from the White House than he was a few months ago. The movement's biggest stars lost or underperformed relative to more mainstream Republicans in last year's midterms as well. Building a winning national campaign requires a different set of skills, it turns out, than earning likes and retweets within the fetid swamps of right-wing Twitter.
It might be time for DeSantis—and conservatives in general—to heed another unambiguous message: The New Right isn't all that popular, after all.
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I suspect the intern was just some twerp who made the video to impress his friends on 4chan.
But it does reveal how political parties can be hijacked by the fringe. He was just an "intern" or whatever, but the rank and file shape the party and the campaigns.
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After firing the staffer blamed for a video that borrowed Nazi imagery, is Ron DeSantis finally backing away from the authoritarian edgelords?
So we're NOT so cool with Ukraine after all?
Right?
I mean, the DeSantis team has run the worst campaign in American political history (methinks intentionally...), and using the black sun was a rookie mistake... mostly because the symbol has been widely cited and photographed on Ukrainian soldiers as evidence that they're big fans of the 3rd Reich.
It's not that obscure a symbol even in our ridiculously historical ignorant culture. It's been talked about on the Twitter enough that one should've run across it.
Fun fact: not an ancient symbol, but one designed by Himmler.
Hmm
https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1684251718001872898?t=LBf5VKKWmL_LJCAcoMm8eg&s=19
Follow the bouncing ball.... You know where it stops.... where it originated.... => Christina Pushaw!
Slava Ukraini, Comrades.
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https://twitter.com/AlexThomp/status/1683961998608924672?t=t75PnGyCRS4VgIzl-3XB1g&s=19
Scoop: This staffer didn't just retweet the video.
He secretly made the video w/ the Sonnenrad, per a person familiar.
It was then shared through @desantiscams where the staffer retweeted it. The video was later deleted it but here it is.
The video ends with an image of DeSantis in the center of Florida's state seal — which then morphs into a rotating Sonnenrad, an ancient symbol appropriated by the Nazis and still used by some white supremacists.
Nate Hochman, a speechwriter on the DeSantis campaign, created the video on his own, according to a person familiar w/ the matter.
"Nate Hochman is no longer with the campaign. And we will not be commenting on him further," a DeSantis campaign official told Axios.
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Why are you re-posting, as a reply to your post, a Tweet and video that was in your original post?
Sounds like you not only know the symbology, but also know and practice the methodology.
"Peat and Repeat are sitting on a log. Peat fell off. Who's left?..."
Do you get extra sweet Rubles for each post?
Before the invasion the mainstream media had no problem pointing out Nazi activity in Ukraine.
Maybe they were Russian too?
Every Eurasian nation has Neo-Nazis, including Russia and even
Mongolia:
Neo-Nazism--Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism
Mongolia's Neo-Nazis in particular take an Environmentalist even ESG tack in their rhetoric and activity and indeed have been stoked by old Soviet Sinophobia:
Mongolian ultra-nationalist groups are targeting the ethnic Chinese
September 15, 2010
During the Second World War Mongolians helped the Soviets to defeat Germany’s Nazis. But now, ultra-nationalistic Mongol groups are after the ethnic Chinese.
https://www.dw.com/en/mongolian-nazis-provoke-chinese-resentment/a-6008069
Who's "we", Kemosabe?
So who was fired in the Biden Administration for the Nazi aesthetic of Joe Biden's "Dark Brandon" speech?
That's classified.
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You mean promoted?
The Easter Bunny?
Nah, he's the one really in charge.
What Nazi aesthetic? Black save blood red illumination surrounded by armed soldiers is just how you do political speeches. Just like how you phone up Ukraine as VP and tell them to kill the investigation into your son's employer or you'll withhold aid, POTUS be damned, is just how you do foreign relations. It's just how government works.
If/When that fails, you openly admit to intentionally using the Nazi aesthetic and then have your staff walk back the administration's use of Nazi aesthetic.
If/When that fails, you just pretend all of it never happened and move on breathlessly to the next clusterfuck and rinse, repeat.
Gee, you mean trying to court the votes of a small fringe that isn't that powerful, despite your best efforts to make "the New Right" into some kind of existential threat to "democracy," didn't work out? Never would have guessed.
I was told today turducken is a new kind of meat.
Lol
White Mike can have some to go along with his big glass of HO2.
“Fuentes- White Nationalist “
lulz
White Hispanic.
You expect racism to make sense or possess any internal consistency?
Hey, I bet that if DeSantis hadn't hired this Hochman guy, Boehm would have written a really nice article about how awesome DeSantis is instead of this one. Right?
No, it'd just have been about how the Oranges Man was Bad in some other way? No... C'mon! Reason isn't just all thinly veiled Democrat propaganda, is it?
Aww, is someone's fee fees getting hurt because they're speaking truth to the bullshit around right wing candidates?
Oh heavens no!
Cry more.
NCW's comment was tongue in cheek and obviously cliche. Your comment was just retarded.
Everyone already knows you're a fucktard. You don't actually need to keep reiterating the lesson.
Quite frankly I'm not sure anyone is gonna lure people away from their cult-like love of Trump in that camp.
That said, DeSantis is also just absolutely terrible so no big difference either way.
That said, DeSantis is also just absolutely terrible so no big difference either way.
Literally Hitler, from what I understand.
No trump is literally hitler, DeSantis is literally trump.
So it's Trump all the way down or Hitler? This is getting confusing.
Turduckenlertis
Hitler cubed.
Abradolph DeSanrump
You’re going to need a lot more Abraham Lincoln to offset all the Hitlers in there.
Props to Reason for using White Nationalist instead of White Supremacist, meaning at least some people recognize the varying strata and types of racist attitudes.
Skin color is the most important thing
Hey Peanuts! Joe Biden directly implicated in Hunter's Dick Pics!
Trigger warning: White Supremacist Glenn Greenwald.
How much does an Original Hunter Biden go for? Apparently around 1/2 a million per painting.
My paintings sell for much less. As the song goes, "I ain't no senator's son".
But when the taxman comes to the door, does the place look like a rummage sale?
At the moment, yes.
Culture includes, but is not limited to, the accelerating abuses of the sexual revolution and leftist propaganda in schools and corporations.
Other cultural issues include cultural attitudes like “spend as much as I want and worry about paying later,” and “let’s virtue-signal about how we dislike foreign governments by getting to the verge of deadly war with them.”
Proclaiming the need for a better culture would be good across the board – not arbitrarily stopping at the point where you risk triggering controversy on “your side.”
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1684259858072076292?t=RVuTykmEE1zKirha5kGWYA&s=19
Hunter Biden simple recap:
Plea deal contained secret provision to provide Hunter w/legal immunity for all future federal charges currently under investigation
Judge said “wtf is this?”
DOJ & Defense: “well, uhh..umm”
Judge: Never seen that before. No deal. How do you plead now?
Hunter: Not guilty
Hunter’s now going to trial for his crimes
Penis trial!
Judge said “wtf is this?”
MuSt Be A tRuMp ApPoInTeE!!!11!111!!!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/1684247358031134730?t=oIurJdi-ftldNONA1sSvrQ&s=19
Understand what happened here:
1. The plea deal was laboriously hashed out and agreed to over a month ago. Both sides **had** to have understood what was being agreed to.
2. BUT they **never** put the actual plea agreement terms on the court docket where the public & the media could read it
3. Not until they were in front of Judge Noreika this morning did the nuts and bolts of the actual plea deal start to be exposed when the judge began questioning the parties about it.
4. Judge Noreika very perceptively zeroed in on the immunity clause of the deal, and the fact no plea deal like this one had EVER BEEN PROPOSED IN FEDERAL COURT BEFORE. She got the government's lead prosecutor to admit this under questioning.
5. This questioning on immunity led to the surfacing of a continued disagreement between the parties: the prosecution is saying the Judge accepting plea deal does NOT give Hunter immunity from being prosecuted in the future as a result of ongoing federal criminal investigations into things like FARA violations. The defense immediately disputed this, telling the court it was their understanding that Hunter WOULD be getting immunity from future prosecution/s if she accepted the negotiated plea deal.
6. Since the judge rejected the initial negotiated plea agreement, both parties are hashing out a new deal where its made clear to both prosecution and defense that Hunter does NOT have future immunity should other federal investigations result in criminal charges against him.
I hope everybody was able to follow all of that.
5. This questioning on immunity led to the surfacing of a continued disagreement between the parties: the prosecution is saying the Judge accepting plea deal does NOT give Hunter immunity from being prosecuted in the future as a result of ongoing federal criminal investigations into things like FARA violations. The defense immediately disputed this, telling the court it was their understanding that Hunter WOULD be getting immunity from future prosecution/s if she accepted the negotiated plea deal.
If all of this is true, #5 is fucking awesome.
Prosecution: *winks at judge* no one MEANT immunity-immunity!
Defense: Uhh, that's EXACTLY what we meant.
Donnybrook ensues.
I think the "prosecution" meant exactly what defense said it did, but had to try to save face by pretending there was disagreement.
They were giving Hunter a get-out-of-jail-free pass but it blew up in their faces once they had to let it see the light of day.
Fake news - if it were secret the judge wouldn't have known about it!
/sarc, or so I believe
This seems to contradict DC Draino.
The Fox reporter seems to think it wasn't the judge questioning that the deal was improperly granted immunity, it was the judge questioning whether the deal was even enforceable on Biden's part. The prosecutor openly stated there was an ongoing investigation under which further charges could be brought.
I'm not sure if it does, at least in terms of color.
It seems that no matter how I read this, the judge, in SOME capacity questioned the immunity portion, the prosecutor said (I repeat myself) "well, not IMMUNITY-immunity, like not for THESE classes of charges..." and the defense (rightly so) stood up and said, "that's not what the deal says, it says "immunity" full stop".
No matter what one thinks of Hunter Biden, the defense is actually doing its job here-- insofar as my understanding goes. If there weren't any qualifications or limitations to the text of the deal when they granted immunity, you're damned straight I'm gonna stand up and say, "Uhh, no, it doesn't say 'only immunity if charges come in on a tuesday during a month with an R in it'"
It seems that the shenanigans, if any are on the prosecutor's, whose likely sole job is to protect Joe Biden from anything leaking out of this case.
Correct
Now, when they ask Biden's flacks about new evidence unearthed in the H Biden trial, the standard answer will be,”We can’t comment about ongoing investigations”…it’s almost like they planned it out. Questions to the FBI – ongoing investigation…questions to Justice – ongoing investigation. The system’s self preservation instincts seem to be working overtime.
Eric — your “far right” and "New Right" labels would have a lot more credibility if Bernie, Lizzie, AOC and her squad, and all the rest of them got a few “far left” labels once in a while.
You are keeping a database somewhere?
Discover The Networks
Cite?
Nope. I depend on You, White Mike, to show counter examples, just one, where any of those Marxians were labeled "far left" or Marxist. Since you have not done so, and since your reputation for veracity is unblemished, it is clear to everybody that it never has happened.
Thank you for your service.
Burden of proof is on the person making the claim.
Can you prove that claim?
Didn't think so.
You don’t have a memory?
Laursen makes a goldfish look good.
Have you ever seen an ugly goldfish?
Don't get coy.
I've seen Laursen flounder quite a few times.
A goldfish inside a tilapia inside a tuna
A tulafish?
https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1683955861025353728?t=33q10TWU3su8T5ruyF5OTQ&s=19
NEW: Social credit scores are here…in Florida?!
Mercola Markets bank accounts shut down by JPMorgan w/no explanation
Owner believes it’s b/c he was critical of C19 vaccines & Fauci
It’s now *illegal* in FL for banks to discriminate based on politics
Will DeSantis fight Wall Street for his residents or focus on campaign and please donors?
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For sound economic perspective go to https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
https://twitter.com/NotRadix/status/1684267961664544768?t=NG2b48czR5tRV21drb0r1w&s=19
Well the @GOP didn't care when they did a show trial in the Gov. Whitmer Fednapping hoax. After the first trial ended in ZERO CONVICTIONS AND 2 MEN ACQUITTED AND FOUND ENTRAPPED BY THE FBI, an embarrassed and angry DOJ did an even more obvious kangaroo court "retrial" where the defense wasn't allowed to call witnesses, and had arbitrary time limits imposed. There was an issue of juror misconduct that was ignored. This is being appealed but the GOP does and says NOTHING ON BEHALF OF THESE MEN. Nothing has been done to address judicial misconduct. The entire system is broken and the Whitmer hoax is proof of that.
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Not a DeSantis supporter, but why is there a double standard. Trump is allowed to spew lies, Biden is allowed to spew lies, but DeSantis is being held to a higher standard. It's early in the election cycle and there is a concerted effort to guarantee a repeat of the Old Geezer election between the two political turds.
I would like a president who isn't an octogenarian, say under 60 years old would be nice.
"The conservative movement as a whole is largely animated these days by grievance politics,......"
That's pure projection right there!