Trump Can't Decide Whether To Free Drug Dealers or Kill Them
His bloody rhetoric undermines his defense of the sentencing reforms he proudly embraced as president.

Donald Trump can't seem to decide whether he wants to execute drug dealers or free them from prison. The former president's debate with himself reflects a broader clash between Republicans who think tougher criminal penalties are always better and Republicans who understand that justice requires proportionality.
Trump has long admired brutal drug warriors like Rodrigo Duterte, the former president of the Philippines. Consistent with that affinity, he has repeatedly floated the idea of imposing the death penalty on drug traffickers.
Trump returned to that theme in November, when he officially launched his 2024 presidential campaign. "We're going to be asking everyone who sells drugs, gets caught selling drugs, to receive the death penalty for their heinous acts," he said.
Trump reiterated that position during an interview with Fox News anchor Bret Baier last week, saying, "That's the only way you're going to stop it." But as Baier pointed out, a policy of executing "everyone who sells drugs" is inconsistent with Trump's record as president, which included sentencing reforms and acts of clemency aimed at reducing drug penalties that Trump described as "very unfair."
Defending that record, Trump cited the commutation he granted to Alice Johnson, a first-time, nonviolent drug offender who was serving a life sentence for participating in a Memphis-based cocaine trafficking operation. "But she'd be killed under your plan," Baier noted, "as a drug dealer."
That observation flummoxed Trump. "No, no, no," he said. "It would depend on the severity," he added. He also noted that the death penalty he has in mind would not apply retroactively to Johnson herself and suggested that, had it been the law at the time, it would have deterred her from getting involved in drug dealing.
All of that is beside the point, of course. If a life sentence was excessively severe for Johnson, a death sentence obviously would have been inappropriate as well—and not just for her specifically but for anyone guilty of similar offenses.
Trump's confusion on this point is especially striking because Johnson became a symbol of his purported opposition to unjust drug penalties: She attended his 2019 State of the Union address, appeared in a Trump campaign ad during the 2020 Super Bowl, and spoke at the Republican National Convention that summer. Trump repeatedly linked Johnson to the broader cause of sentencing reform, which he proudly championed by embracing the FIRST STEP Act.
Among other things, that 2018 law reduced several mandatory minimum sentences, authorized the resentencing of crack offenders in line with current penalties, expanded the "safety valve" that allows some drug defendants to avoid mandatory minimums, increased "good time" credit for federal prisoners, and facilitated "compassionate release" of elderly and ailing inmates. With Trump's backing, the bill attracted support from 182 Republicans in the House and 38 in the Senate.
During the 2020 presidential race, Trump used the FIRST STEP Act to attack Joe Biden from the left on criminal justice, highlighting the Democrat's long history of supporting draconian drug penalties that disproportionately hurt African Americans. Now Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Trump's leading rival for the Republican presidential nomination, is using the FIRST STEP Act to attack Trump as soft on crime.
Last month, DeSantis hyperbolically described the law as "a jailbreak bill," saying it endangers public safety by "releasing people who have not been rehabilitated." As president, he said, he would urge Congress to repeal that "huge, huge mistake."
Trump could respond by noting that several provisions of the FIRST STEP Act are designed to promote rehabilitation. He also could cite data indicating that the recidivism rate for prisoners who have benefited from the law is relatively low.
Trump might even argue that the goal of preventing crime by keeping people locked up must be balanced against the goal of ensuring that punishment is commensurate with the offense. Instead, Trump seems determined to show, by re-upping his kill-them-all proposal, that he can be even more mindlessly punitive than DeSantis.
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He's a good liar, and I trust his lies. You have to lie to achieve criminal justice reform of any kind, because it's a losing issue. So you must say kill 'em, under the jail, etc. to get elected, so you can then turn around and be lenient in office. This is the way of politics. To progress, you have to defeat the will of the people. Smash democracy!
But the evidence is that Trump gets it done, and he's the only pol actually doing this. I don't trust others, Democrat or Republican, to do anythng other than make it worse.
So you must say kill ’em, under the jail, etc. to get elected
That's not always true. A lot of big city DAs (like Krasner in Philly) were squishy as hell during their campaigns.
Yes, there have been recent exceptions at such an extreme, actively courting the criminal vote by seeking to decriminalize crime if they can't legalize it.
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This is campaign rhetoric and Sullum takes it as serious policy. Read Trump’s speeches and you see all kinds of contradictions, more than most politicians.
Trump should be taken ‘seriously not literally’ is the correct approach.
How do you know what he means and what he doesn't mean? Flip a coin?
It's the Infallibility of the Trump standard.
He says so many different things that his followers all have something they agree with while his critics have something they disagree with?
At this point I believe it’s a tactic. He lies constantly so that his detractors and opponents never know what he’s actually thinking or actually believes. Of course, his supporters have no idea either, nor does anyone who works for him, nor himself, probably, but it’s a tactic. It’s what I call 4D checkers.
So I guess the rational [non TDS person] would be forced to judge him by his actions
Like any person, judge him by his actions and track record. His speeches are train of thought exercises, unlike most pols who memorize talking points and get into trouble when they try to be spontaneous, because they are stupid.
The best and most helpful comment here.
How do you take him seriously when the man has no actual principles? This boggles my mind. Like how does any adult see this man and not think "Voting this man into a position of power in representative government makes no sense because how can you represent anything when you have no principles?"
Maybe I overestimate the general mental and moral competency of my fellow citizens.
No, you're just an elitist that looks down on the "working class" and/or thinks he is so much smarter than the general population. I agree with BigT's comment. You have to look at his actions of his last presidency and see if you like his policies; greatly improving the economy, the first president to truly try to fix the problem of illegal immigration, made some changes which resulted in leniency on those sentenced on minor drug crimes, actually did get tough on our enemies, pushed Operation Warp Speed (yet believed to much what our medical bureaucrats said), made better trade deals, lowered taxes, made NATO members pay their fare share, got rid of some useless government regulations, improved our military, got serious on new age defense measures (Space Force), had a historic peace deal in the Middle East and more. Now, he did increase government spending and therefore didn't decrease the national debt, didn't get rid of useless government agencies, didn't get rid of bureaucrats that were politically motivated, was sometimes awkward and/or "mean-spirited" with his words and hired his children. So, yeah not someone good at "nuanced political speech", but he tried to do what he said he would do. Not too many presidents have done that.
Sullum CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!!
Why do people find it so hard to remember what he actually did & tried to do when he was in office? Don't actions speak louder? It's something to consider especially when looking at others who talk big but usually have done nothing much or messed up like Christy and Haley according to many in her state.
Women voters remember that The Orange Don put Christian National Socialists on the courts to undo the LP Roe v Wade gains of 1972-3 and reenslave women. Bringing back the shoot-first prohibitionism that is ALWAYS in Gee-Oh-Pee platforms since 1928 is icing on the cake or iceberg under the Titanic.
Milton Friedman observed that socialists (and nationalsocialists) expect a man on a White Horse to solve all problems. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Ceausescu, Trump, Nixon, Kruschev, Tito... whatever. Observe that only requirements are that they be committed to the initiation of deadly force as the universal panacea, whether for Jesus, Mohammed or Allah, and NOT the same color as Obama/Satan. The notion of a concept or definition, like of what is a right, is competely wasted on them.
Why not both?
Kill ‘em and let the corpse go free?
Let them go free. Then they will be killed by the racist cops. Win -win.
Well this is awkward Sullum. The Iran memo in the tape you pushed as evidence of Trump guilt of classified information isn’t even one of the charges against him.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-memo-not-among-the-31-records-underlying-charges-in-trump-federal-indictment/
But I'm sure this article is the walls closing in.
You dont know what is really ironic sullum? Joe signing a law to increase gun penalties to 15 years then the DoJ excusing his son over the same crime. But that isn’t an interesting story. Or any if the Biden corruption. Trump Trump Trump.
Well you know "Orange man bad."
"bad" implies a coherent ethos capable of defining such terms. More like "orange man amoral because he himself believes in nothing".
Not a fan of peace and prosperity?
Dude listen to yourself.
A grown man would be ashamed at the lack of principle on display here, defending a man who himself has no principles. But because you think like a child - I don't mean this derisively, you demonstrate reasoning consistent with a prepubescent child - and you don't actually believe anything you claim to believe, you bend over backwards finding irrational justifications.
Big words and gross overgeneralizations without citing specific instances of his "lack of principles". Come on, be specific so we can get to meat of your argument.
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Republicans are never going to win resorting to their MASSIVE failures like the Drug War. And frankly the Federal government has NONE, ZERO, NADDA authority to be doing it.
What Republicans need to WIN is restoring the USA (defined by the US Constitution). Chopping up the [Na]tional So[zi]alist - Empire spreading like a disease across the political spectrum.
JACOB SULLUM is a senior TDS-addled pile of shit at REASON.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
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None of this is surprising as the Trump administration was notable for a lack of message discipline and chaotic policies.
De-Regulation is so chaotic.. /s
UR FOS.
Trump's policies towards deregulation seems to be very mixed or chaotic as I have mentioned. There was certainly less regulatory reform than he promised, but fewer regulations were proposed and implemented.
That's a predictable result of no principles.
Their 3 messages are: White Orange Hitler--not Obama, keep pretending that banning trade and production helps the economy--shoot blacks, latinos, foreigners and hippies. Bully them bitches till they do their duty to Trump's Party of Christ. What's not to understand?
Killing them is certainly liberating , so to speak .
Maybe - just maybe - the man can't decide because he doesn't believe in anything. Ya know, what Lindsey Graham was warning conservatives about but everyone kinda dismissed him as sour grapes instead of him exercising a rare moment of self-awareness.
The GOP ship started sinking the moment Trump became captain and wise folks are jumping off it. FFS, in my hometown of Boise, Idaho, Mike Masterson is running as "independent" - he used to head our local PD, he's been very public about his conservative positions - purely because he knows Trump has stained the brand.
At his heart Trump is a salesman and his goal is a sale and so there is no fixed ideas or principles. He will tell you what you want to hear to make the sale.
You prefer Obama's 1.9% growth to Trump's 3.4%?
No, I prefer President Obama who led us out of a deep recession to Trump who led us into one.
It's amazing how you leftards can dismiss reality so easily. Tell me does it take drugs to support such blatant LIES in your head, you know you're LYING or are you just so stupid you cannot distinguish between a truth and a blatant lie?
Reality....
FDR - The Great Depression
Obama - The Great Recession
Biden - The Great Inflation
Read up on your history FDR came in after the Depression started, he led us out. Obama came in after the Recession started, he led us out. I don't need drugs to know this I can read history. Can you?
Oh so all it takes is Nazi-Propoganda (LIES) from Nazi authors. Heaven forbid you actually got a brain of your own. LOL... FDR led us out of the Great Depression by sustaining it for over a decade; yeah - you really need to get a brain.
So what do we do? My former city of Minneapolis is overrun with drug addicts living in tents, setting fire to houses and businesses (yes, even after the riots) and menacing innocent residents. We're seeing cities like Seattle and Portland letting them slowly die on the streets due to "compassion." Give them affordable housing and you only move the problem inside (and the inside gets trashed and/or rendered uninhabitable and/or burned down). So what do we DO about this problem?
Let's start by working the demand side of the drug problem instead of the supply side. Accept that people like recreational drugs. For some it is alcohol, other marijuana, still others more powerful drugs. Help the people that have problems with the drugs. Stopping use is the best idea, but for some that may not work, and the better choice may be to get them functional. That may mean accepting some drug use in exchange for the people be functional, exercising self care.
There were comparatively NO drug or poverty problems in the USA until girl-bullying Comstockism joined hands with tee-totalitarianism to wreck the economy. Cleveland's party was for prosperity without sumptuary laws, but too late. Economic collapse caused by economic meddling had by 1892 created a communist movement no less fanatical than the mystical bigotry it opposed. The LP offered the only viable alternative.
Alcohol, tobacco, barbiturates and narcotics impair functionality. These were all left standing when God's Own Prohibitionists made the surprise attacks on psychedelics and shrubs--which don't impair functionality or produce addiction. No problem existed before superstitious politicians called on the initiation of deadly force at Qing China's bidding.
For one thing you might let them have jobs ! How many jobs simply refuse to hire anyone that uses. This only adds to the problem and sends these people to crime. Most of these people would be productive if given a chance. I've hired some of these people and they turned out to be my best workers.
@ Kohoutek
When America WAS great, we institutionalized them. We “progressed” backwards.
We also institutionalized a lot of people that did not need to be locked up. People that can function and be part of the community.
I'd move.
Teach them they have to *EARN* a living instead of STEALING it with Gov-Guns. The problem is bloody obvious but the criminal left has no motive to stop STEALING because of principle-less (UN-Constitutional) "democracy".
Um... stop aggressively menacing and coercing people? Repeal menacing laws equivocating trade and production into crimes? Consider whether altruism might be a recipe for death, not a standard of value?
The "war on drugs" must stop. The system is based this on lies and deceit. It's time we help those addicted. We must remove the insane money from dealing and the kickbacks to government officials.
Observe that "drugs" is as undefined as rights, freedom, government or Allah by the mystics. And "drug problems" only began after Ronald Reagan banned LSD. Observe also that after Ayn Rand turned on John Hospers, supported Tricky Nixon, then rejected Reagan-Billy Graham dogmatism, the objectivist movement and LP were both infiltrated by whack jobs as hippies were hunted and interned like Japanese-Americans in 1942--only in jails instead of camps.
Only government can decide who sells drugs and who doesn't. Only they can decide what drugs you can consume. Land of the free...
Plants are NOT drugs. Lucifer's minions "classified" them WRONGLY!!
Genesis 1:29
And God GOD!! said, Behold, I have given you(for your judicious responsible use) every EVERY!! herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, AND(also) every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
OK, stay with me here. I have a radical and awesome solution to all this.
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If there are drug laws and the accused is charged and convicted of them then, when it's time for sentencing....
Flip a coin.
Let the drug dealer call it. If he wins, he's free. If he loses, we kill him.
This conveys the message that we don't really want to throw drug dealers in prison, while at the same time saying we really don't want people dealing drugs.
To avoid 8A violations, give the convicted a choice - the prison sentence they'd ordinarily get as it is, or the coin.
Trust me, they're drug dealers - they'll go for the coin.
Switch in Jew for trader and the above translates into the Final Solution altruistic Providence inspired Germany's racial collectivist Christian leader to embark upon.
During the 2020 presidential race, Trump used the FIRST STEP Act to attack Joe Biden from the left on criminal justice,
From the RIGHT.
Proper judicial reform, just laws and blind justice are the purview of the RIGHT.
Authoritarian rule, with laws applied capriciously to benefit the ruling elite of the Party is the purview of the LEFT. As we can see from Biden's 'Justice' Department.
"d) that rationality by itself without the light of revelation from God can neither be a sure guide in the affairs of mankind nor provide spiritual nourishment to the human soul, and, knowing that the teachings of Islam represent the quintessence of Divine guidance in its final and perfect form, feel duty-bound to remind man of the high status and dignity bestowed on him by God;" This sums up Christian National Socialist ethics as concisely as it sums up Mohammedan dogma. The trick is never to define freedom, rights, government or God.
Trump's confusion on this point is especially striking.
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Split the difference - release them from prison, give them a five minute head start and then hunt them down and kill them.
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