Don't Let Culture Wars Weaken the Financial System
In California, officials are pushing pension funds to divest from fossil fuels, firearms manufacturers, and tobacco companies. Red states are retaliating. This is madness.

At the retail level, the culture wars have taken a particularly silly turn as conservatives celebrate Anheuser-Busch's falling stock prices following a widespread boycott of Bud Light after it partnered with a transgender social-media influencer to promote the beer. The Mexican beer Modelo has soared into the top spot in U.S. beer sales as a result.
But who is going to break the news to the culture warriors? Modelo's parent company, Constellation Brands, boasts that its "diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) goals…are critical components to our future success." Trying to one-up always-agitated left-wing social-justice warriors, right-wingers also are angry about Target's LGBQT displays—and have turned on religiously conservative Chik-Fil-A after learning it has a DEI officer.
The good news, I suppose, is America must be such a prosperous and problem-free land that its citizens have nothing better to do than argue about the politics of the corporate behemoths that sell them food and Chinese-made clothing. It reminds me of the chorus from a Cake song about consumerism: "You're drinkin' what they're selling now. Your self-destruction doesn't hurt them."
Watching people self-destruct on social media over piffle has a certain entertainment value, but politicians on the right and left are taking these battles onto a broader stage where the economic damage could be more lasting. The latest alphabet soup battle involves something known as ESG. It stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance and points to a set of socially conscious governance criteria.
As TechTarget explains, ESG is a "framework used to assess an organization's business practices and performance on various sustainability and ethical issues" and "provides a way to measure business risks and opportunities." It's a way for corporations to evaluate their policies. Are they investing in things that help the environment, instituting fair employment policies, and embracing corporate transparency?
As with all such corporate diversions, it combines sensible strategies and best practices with political correctness and busy work. It reminds me of the time decades ago when I worked on an Air Force base and the managers embraced TQM (Total Quality Management). It was a clever idea designed to empower workers at every level but ended up mainly as a box-checking exercise and excuse for long meetings and boring seminars.
As I see it, companies can manage themselves as they choose and—as Anheuser-Busch, Target, and Starbucks are learning—decide whether their social policies risk alienating more customers than they lure. Personally, I wish they'd just provide the best products and services as possible, but large organizations can't help but wrestle as best as they can with complex strategies involving investments, workplaces, and marketing.
At the political level, however, ESG—and the reaction against it—has become a means for elected officials to use their respective governments' massive financial clout to achieve desired cultural aims. That's where this latest cultural battlefront is becoming dangerous. In blue states, such as California, elected officials are pushing pension funds to divest from their holdings in fossil fuels, firearms manufacturers, and tobacco companies.
They're also directing vast government investments into companies that match their political aims (alternative energy, recycling, etc.) but might not yield the best bang for the buck. The California Public Employees' Retirement System (CalPERS) has a whopping $440-billion in assets, so the temptation is strong to starve capital from "bad" industries and energize "good" ones.
This has triggered a backlash in Red states, which have passed laws that forbid state business with investment firms that divest in the ways that Democratic states prefer. Texas has taken that approach and, according to one study, could cost the state billions of dollars in higher borrowing costs. Both sides are putting cultural preferences above their fiduciary responsibilities.
CalPERS and the California State Teachers' Retirement System (CalSTRS) are hardly conservative organizations, but they have opposed legislative efforts to mandate various divestments for the obvious reason that it ties their hands. Their goal is to maximize investment returns to prop up their outsized pension payouts and keep taxpayers from having to fund a bailout. In contrast, lawmakers want to use any tool at their disposal to promote their climate-change agenda.
The answer is to call a truce. States should enact "clear fiduciary duty laws that define who is responsible for state investment" and allow them to use ESG factors only if they promise to yield better financial results, according to a Harvard Law School Forum piece by Oxford University business professor Robert Eccles and Eli Lehrer, president of the R Street Institute (the think tank where I work).
The obvious and important goal is "to insulate pension funds, other investments and public contracts…from political concerns." Of course, trying to convince politicians to limit their political influence in financial decisions is no easy feat, but there's too much financial risk to let these bitter cultural battles spread from the grocery-store shelves to Wall Street.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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Why shouldn't a company expand the audience for their product? Oh wait, straight men are easily triggered, and so Budweiser should have known if they wanted to expand their market to LGBTQ people they need to form another company marketing a beer with a different name. They should have known straight men are such snowflakes about their masculinity.
I’d tell you to eat shit, but I’m pretty sure you’re on that diet already.
Does the culture war include Reasons censors deleting entire articles”
https://reason.com/2023/06/19/private-insurance-and-government-programs-drive-up-health-care-costs/?comments=true#comment-10116911
They didn't delete it, which is great because I missed so many chances to tell you:
Fuck Off, Nazi! 🙂
Well, you lying waste of skin fuckwit, maybe you can explain why it doesn’t appear chronologically with the other 6/19 articles when sorting by “latest”.
No, I didn’t think so.
Fuck off Kol Nidre boy.
Still isn’t deleted, you retarded Nazi cunt.
It was deleted from the latest filter which lists every article chronologically.
You are a lying waste of skin.
It seems like free speech doesn’t mean much at reason anymore.
It looks like when an article leaves the main pages it’s open season to be deleted and edited.
In the archives the articles are nothing like they were while we were commenting.
In another recent Tuccile article see how it’s been edited and our comments censored, not merely deleting bot posts.
https://reason.com/2023/06/14/in-ukraines-struggle-for-survival-a-reminder-of-wars-harsh-moral-compromises/?comments=true#comments
This is what’s currently left of a debate after Reason censorship.
Nazi-Burning Witch 1 week ago I heard the walls are closing in around Trump as well.
Log in to Reply Rob Misek 1 week ago Maybe the United States shouldn’t have coordinated the coup on Russias border in 2014 for western multinational greed and Hunter Biden’s undeserved lucrative employment with corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs.
Putting the puppet Jew Zelensky in charge to coordinate Nazi AZOV battalions to terrorize the population in a bloody civil war with US funding and western propaganda.
Just saying.
Log in to Reply TheReEncogitationer 1 week ago Hunter and “The Big Guy” had dirty dealings with Russians too.
And you say “the Jew Zelensky” is a puppet and not a puppet master? What gives here?
In any event, Fuck Off, Nazi!
Log in to Reply Mickey Rat 1 week ago (edited)
This is the full debate that existed before reason censorship.
Nazi-Burning Witch 3 days ago I heard the walls are closing in around Trump as well.
Log in to Reply Rob Misek 3 days ago Maybe the United States shouldn’t have coordinated the coup on Russias border in 2014 for western multinational greed and Hunter Biden’s undeserved lucrative employment with corrupt Ukrainian oligarchs.
Putting the puppet Jew Zelensky in charge to coordinate Nazi AZOV battalions to terrorize the population in a bloody civil war with US funding and western propaganda.
Just saying.
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Log in to Reply R Mac 3 days ago It’s a pretty fucked up situation when Misek is right.
Log in to Reply Earth-based Human Skeptic 3 days ago Even broken Nazi clocks…
Log in to Reply Rob Misek 3 days ago Considering you nor anyone else has ever refuted anything that I’ve said, you should be used to it by now.
Log in to Reply VULGAR MADMAN 3 days ago Why can’t you be a fun kind of conspiracy theorist like a flat earther?
Log in to Reply Rob Misek 2 days ago The kind you can refute?
Hahaha, I’m having fun.
Log in to Reply VULGAR MADMAN 2 days ago (edited) The real difference is saying that millions of people weren’t murdered is pretty goddamn gross.
Keep on laughing about it though.
Log in to Reply Rob Misek 2 days ago I’ve refuted that lie with correctly applied logic and science.
Exposing a lie with truth isn’t “gross”, unless you’re the liar.
I’m laughing at you.
Milan Ming 2 days ago You’ve posted deranged shit that a cursory perusal of readily-available facts completely and utterly refutes, Nazi, and you’ve also had it shoved up your asshole just as often as you’ve posted it. But you’re a pigeon chess grandmaster: after you lose, you knock the pieces of the board, shit on it, and strut around like you won.
Rob Misek 2 days ago If you could prove that I’ve ever been refuted you would, with a simple link to the thread and a description of what was refuted.
So do it fuckwit.
Or demonstrate that you can’t, nobody ever has and you’re just another lying waste of skin.
Rob Misek 2 days ago (edited) You won’t, can’t, so I’ll rub in your face the fact that you can’t and nobody ever has ever refuted what I’ve said.
The following points refute key elements of the holocaust with logic and science. This is because all stories creating the holocaust narrative defy logic and science.
There has been no objective forensic analysis at any supposed site. That means that there is no physical evidence. Any activity that demonstrates and shares evidence to refute the holocaust is a crime in every nation where it allegedly occurred.
The fact that all evidence that refutes the holocaust is criminal in every nation where it allegedly occurred is relevant if you are accepting any evidence at all from those nations.
Refusing to consider evidence is the definition of bias and any conclusion that bias is irrelevant only demonstrates bigotry and a disregard for justice.
Without objective forensic evidence all we have is a story made up of piecemeal recollections of events from paid and coerced fuckwitnesses.
I refute those stories with correctly applied logic and science.
The crucial event of the story is the cyanide gassing of millions of Jews. That couldn’t have happened as claimed. The story is bullshit.
Jews have published books illustrated with pictures of themselves shirtless dragging piles of gassed bodies from the chambers to cremation ovens.
But cyanide is absorbed through the skin and NOBODY could have survived a single day of such activity much less collecting reparations into their old age reminiscing about it years later.
Anyone who ever saw the naked body of somebody who died from cyanide asphyxiation would NEVER forget the red skin colour. The bodies necessary reaction to being unable to process oxygen.
Not a single surviving fuckwitness ever mentioned it.
Also, no dark cherry red skin discolouration was visible in any supposed photographs of bodies of so-called victims of the holocaust.
The fact is that you can’t explain it and your bigotry prevents you from recognizing the ONLY logical conclusion.
Not a single fuckwitness testimony or alleged photograph of bodies was of anyone who died from cyanide exposure.
So much for the “evidence” of a holocaust.
And so it goes with every bullshit story told by paid and coerced lying fuckwitnesses. The facts prove otherwise.
Have you ever heard of the Bletchley park decrypts of the famous German enigma machines? It was credited for turning the tide of the war as allies knew what military actions the Germans were planning.
Only released in the 1980s those translated messages included prison camp information, deaths, transfers and requests for medicines to treat illnesses. The numbers of dead don’t support the holocaust narrative of which there was also no mention of.
Here are some actual enigma decrypts from Bletchley park in 1942 when deaths were at their highest.
Covering the period 3rd Aug. 1942 – 25th Sept. 1942
A further examination is made of Concentration Camp figures; deaths from typhus have reached a very high figure in AUSCHWITZ.
A suspected case of typhus is reported from AUSCHWITZ (223b/42). It is probable that on the 6th August Nachschubkdtr. Russland Mitte requests typhus vaccine for 50 men and spottenfever serum for 20
For the first time returns are given for deaths of prisoners (223b/14,24,43,50): the figures for August are: NIEDERHAGEN 21, AUSCHWITZ 6829 (or 6889) men, 1525 women;.
Firstly the number of dead for the month are nowhere near what is necessary to support the holocaust narrative.
Secondly, notable is the concern over typhus deaths and the requests for medical supplies to treat.
Thirdly, are you willing and eager to perform the feeble mental gymnastics required to believe, as the story goes, that Germans were communicating in code about prison camps while talking plainly about their military actions with their top secret enigma machines?
That would require you to really believe that Germany INTENTIONALLY lost the war to cover up the holocaust while ostensibly leaving lying fuckwitnesses alive in the prison camps as the Germans retreated.
Let’s not forget another old timey favourite.The story of Babi Yar is a popular lesson in Jewish schools described as the single largest event of the holocaust.
The lesson is that between 30,000 and 100,000 Jews were taken to a ravine in Ukraine where they were killed.
The story is told by one Jewish survivor, Dina Pronicheva, an actress who testified that she was forced to strip naked and marched to the edge of the ravine. When the firing squad shot, she jumped into the ravine and played dead. After being covered by thousands of bodies and tons of earth she dug herself out, unscathed, when the coast was clear and escaped to tell the story.
She is apparently the only person in history to successfully perform a matrix bullet dodge at a firing squad. The soldier aiming point blank at her never noticed her escape. Never walked a few steps to the edge of the ravine to finish her off.
They were stripped naked to leave no evidence. Naked she had no tools to dig herself out from under 30,000 bodies and tons of dirt.
Only after the deed was done, the nazis realized that so many bullet ridden bodies were evidence. Oops, rookie move. So they brought more Jews and millions of cubic feet of firewood to dig them up, cremate them on gravestones and scatter their ashes in surrounding fields.
There has been no forensic investigation at the site. None of the bullets allegedly burned with the bodies have been recovered. Not one shred of physical evidence of this has ever been found.
There are military aerial photographs of the area at the time but they don’t show any evidence of the narrative, no people, no equipment, no firewood, no moved earth, no tracks of any kind.
Simply stating these facts is a crime in Ukraine where the Babi Yar narrative is taught in school.
The numbers of dead from German enigma decrypts does align with Red Cross numbers.
The Red Cross was founded in 1863 with the purpose of protecting the interests of victims of conflicts.
The Red Cross regularly visited all prison camps. It was their job to report the cause of all deaths. They recorded a grand total of 271,000 among all camps for the entire war. It is a matter of record.
The holocaust fairytale requires us to believe that they were so unaware of what might be happening that they completely missed 95% of the victims in prison camps.
AND that they had not so much as an inkling that a holocaust was going on right under their noses even though allied media propaganda was reporting it. Because there is no evidence of any Red Cross document suggesting they did.
Are you performing those feeble mental gymnastics? How gullible are you?
Zyklon B is an off the shelf insecticide used among other places in Prison camps to delouse clothing and bedding to save lives by preventing deadly typhus. The system used for years before and during the war throughout Europe employed heating to release cyanide gas, fans to circulate the gas and more to exhaust the chambers to make the de loused articles safe to handle.
Pictures of this equipment and the small de lousing buildings with clothing racks still exist in Prison camps. But no evidence of any gas delivery system has ever been found in the shower houses where the bullshit holocaust allegedly occurred. In fact, the story has changed to that they just threw the heat activated pellets onto the cold drainless floors in rooms full of people.
Such an inefficient method would have taken too long to kill the required number of Jews. The pellets couldn’t be spread evenly in rooms full of people. The cold drainless floors would have delayed the release of cyanide from the pellets that people would have swept away from themselves. Any dead would have released all their bodily fluids and their bodies covering the pellets. Vomit would have been added to the floor prior to entering such a room.
According to the testimony of the so called survivor, the timing entering the chambers immediately, the details shirtless survivor, piles of bodies with unvented cyanide gas pockets in every space, death from repeated exposure as per testimony would have been necessary, not just possible.
According to Martin Gilbert in his book, Holocaust Journey, the gas chambers at Treblinka utilized carbon monoxide from diesel engines. At the Nuremberg trial of the Nazi war criminals, the American government charged that the Jews were murdered at Treblinka in “steam chambers,” not gas chambers.
Gasoline engine exhaust contains about ten times the carbon monoxide than diesel. Diesel exhaust is relatively safe. Even if the Diesel engines were running at their maximum of 500 ppm, death would take several hours. Far too long to support the narrative.
If Germans had used gasoline engines, death would have been in a few minutes. But in the holocaust narrative for treblinka diesel was used even though Germany had plenty of gasoline for their tanks. Nuremberg still recorded that they were “steam chambers”.
Somebody is lying. They weren’t both steam chambers and diesel gas chambers.Which stupid lie is more believable? Does it even matter to you?
The story of gassing Jews began as British propaganda to turn popular opinion against Germany. It was inspired to draw attention away from Jewish Bolshevik war crimes in Russia because that would work against allied propaganda. It also served global Jewish interests to create undeserved sympathy for Jews who had publicly organized boycotts of Germany to drive Germany to war.
There is a documented letter from the head of British propaganda to the head of the war office recommending that they cease the “gassing Jews“ propaganda because there was no evidence for it and if found out would work against their propaganda efforts.
Head of British Psychological Warfare Executive (Propaganda), Victor Cavendish-Bentick in a handwritten note, wrote on Aug 27th, 1943,
“We have had a good run for our money with this gas chamber story we have been putting about, but don’t we run the risk eventually we are going to be found out and when we are found out the collapse of that lie is going to bring the whole of our psychological warfare down with it? So isn’t it rather time now to let it drift off by itself and concentrate on other lines that we are running.”
Public Record Office Document F0371/34551 revealed by Stephen Mitford Goodson, ‘Inside the South African Reserve Bank’.
Jews had been publicly claiming a holocaust of 6 million Jews in various nations no less than 166 times between 1900 and 1945. Only to coerce sympathy to raise money. Like the wastes of skin who fake cancer on go fund me pages.
What’s the probability after being proven lying about 6 million Jewish deaths by holocaust over 166 times that the 167th claim is true? Better to buy a lottery ticket. Though the bullshiit narrative has been like a lottery bonanza for Jews.
The only thing the bullshit holocaust narrative has in common with WW2 is that they were both the creation of Jews.
These Jewish leaders are admitting it. Are they lying?
They are properly referenced quotes from Jewish leaders demonstrating that they had intended to create and force Germany into WW2.
That kind of evil is absolutely relevant when considering the character required to lie to the world about a holocaust for the 167 th time.
“We Jews are going to bring a war on Germany”. David A Brown, national chairman, united Jewish campaign, 1934.
“The Israeli people around the world declare economic and financial war against Germany …holy war against Hitlers people”
Chaim Weismann, the Zionist leader, 8 September 1939, Jewish chronicle.
The Toronto evening telegram of 26 February 1940 quoted rabbi Maurice l. Perlzweig of the world Jewish Congress as telling a Canadian audience that” The world Jewish Congress has been at war with Germany for seven years”.
TheReEncogitationer 3 days ago Hunter and “The Big Guy” had dirty dealings with Russians too.
And you say “the Jew Zelensky” is a puppet and not a puppet master? What gives here?
In any event, Fuck Off, Nazi!
Log in to Reply R Mac 3 days ago Yes, he’s a puppet. He was a fucking comedian playing a president on the TV network owned by a pro-American oligarch.
Log in to Reply TheReEncogitationer 2 days ago Zelensky was was a comedian, but what makes Misek a bigger comedian is his claim that “the Jew Zelensky” is a puppet when Misek would normally make “the Jew” a puppet-master.
Misek can’t even keep his scapegoats straight. If only all Nazis were like that.
Log in to Reply Rob Misek 2 days ago (edited) That’s your delusion not mine.
I’ve demonstrated that many Jews are as stupid as you are.
Log in to Reply Mickey Rat 3 days ago (edited)
Misek, your insane ramblings don’t mean shit. The Holocaust is historical fact. You’re just a raving idiot that hates Jews, and loves Nazis.
Every delusion has a breaking point. We will have to find yours.
In the interim, fuck off, you stupid cunt.
I’ve told you that all you need to do is refute anything I’ve said or link to where anyone else has with a description and I’ll never say it again.
You feeble fuckwits never have.
Don’t feel bad about that though because the truth can’t be refuted.
You should feel bad about grovelling every time that you demonstrate that you don’t refute what you deny or prove what you claim.
But by your own admission you’re a coward, Elmer Fudd.
The pile of Nazi shit has no understanding of what constitutes "evidence", nor the least ability to understand the concept of "relevance".
To whatever low-watt intelligence we're dealing with here, he assumes finding one lie by a some Jew = 'no holocaust'.
We got one dumb fuck here.
You’re a proven liar, continually abasing yourself, a grovelling waste of skin.
Okay Reason, you’ve put the healthcare article back into the latest filter. That’s a start.
Now put all those comments you censored back into the Ukraine article.
I think an explanation is in order also.
Your an idiot. One the trans they chose mocks women. He thinks they are all little girls. Second, the VP stated it was a frat boy beer and they didn't like that. Third, the non-apology multiple times or the false trying on the heart strings.
Yeah it's all those straight men in people's faces yelling, threatening violence, crying they can't be in a girls sport, and can't compete in a male sport.
Yeap straight men/women are the issue right? Go back to your closet troll
There was a reason beer companies used to use attractive female models to market beer. Now they apologize for doing so 30 years ago. Even though it worked, and the models were well paid.
Attractive women offend feminists,
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Do you think they will try to have a tranny sell perfume to women? How well do you suppose that will go?
Women would buy it because they want to fit in.
Patrice O’Neil: “Women are not righteous.”
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They're happily sitting by while getting written out of society to avoid being "mean".
Funny watching feminists having no problem with epic misogyny as long as the misogynist claims they are "really" a woman.
"Why shouldn’t a company expand the audience for their product?..."
A company is pretty much obliged to do exactly that, and taking preachy political stands is about pretty much guaranteed to do otherwise.
And then blaming your customers for the failure of your marketing efforts only makes things worse.
It's quite easy to see that, when it comes to business, you are a steaming pile of lefty ignoramus. Please let us know how to short whatever business over which you have control.
And then fuck off and die.
Do you seriously believe that gay men subscribe to this crap? Do you seriously believe that gay men find Dylan Mulvaney to be anything other than an annoying attention whore who makes a mockery of women and couldn't cut it as a man?
Do you think that just because your neo-Marxist agitprop organizations decided to stick a bunch of random letters together, gay men want trans and queer people misappropriating our organizations and our history?
Go to hell, Ronsch.
Or lesbians who are being told to accept the feminine penis or else be labeled a terf/bigot.
Gay men and lesbians can vocally denounce the obsession with the "T" part of LGBT...but few seem willing to do so. C'est la vie.
Bud couldn't have chosen worse than Dylan. Acts like a kid. Hasn't had the surgery to back up his year as a woman.
I’m a few years there will be a case study on the Bud Light debacle that will be taught in marketing classes for the east century. AB flushed forty years of branding and goodwill down the toilet in a nanosecond, and then doubled down.
They knew who their customers were, and knowingly shit on them. Said customers reacted accordingly. Case closed.
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Any fiduciary using ESG as an investment strategy, rather than their clients wishes and best interests, should be sued out of existence and lose their ability to practice.
"Should" being the key word there
No. A fiduciary whose independent analysis concludes that high ESG firms in the market sectors of interest will in the long term generate better than average returns, or will generate market level returns but with lower risks, should be sued if they do NOT invest in them. The issue for fiduciaries should be performance only - but ESG is a legitimate factor when projecting performance.
You think it's bad - and if a fiduciary's analysis shows it, then if they nonetheless invest in high ESG companies they should indeed be sued. But you should not eliminate ESG before any analysis.
There are theoretical arguments for all attitudes to ESG investment - and it's a sufficiently recent phenomenon that there may be insufficient data to support any of them. But I would oppose preventing a fund from considering ESG from a performance perspective just as I would oppose requiring a fund to consider it.
tobacco companies have some of the highest esg ratings ... proves the whole entire exercise is meaningless
"Long term ESG profit" is bull. The big advocates of ESG like Klaus Schwab, Larry Fink and Bill Gates have consistently expressed their admiration for China. Their idea of long term profits means that the US becomes more like China and they get to be the Inner Party and receive all of the profits.
Environmental - deprive people of energy to limit their personal activity
Social - eliminate private property so the peasants cannot be independent
Governance - implement DEI.
None of these things are geared towards the actual financial benefit of investors. They can only achieve cultural and social goals of which the primary goal is the regression of society to feudalism.
You'd be better off investing in a mortuary because the only equality DEI will ever create is the equality of death.
...which, if true, means that as this gets appreciated, ESG stocks will eventually be undervalued, in which case you should buy them.
Or alternatively, don't buy them now because enough other investors have done so so that they're currently overvalued.
Or the markets are sufficiently efficient that they've already priced in the ESG effects so ESG makes no difference, etc.
ESG is just a new factor, that's all.
Or we could bankrupt them and let the board members live on the streets.
If enough people boycott a company such that it goes bankrupt, that's life. It doesn't matter what the boycott is about. It's not hard to imagine a boycott of a company that was defiantly anti-ESG causing such a company considerable hadship. Would you complain if a pension fund said, we're selling stock of Company A because we think that there's a risk that their anti-ESG practices will lead to a boycott with adverse results on earnings? Surely not. You might disagree with the rationale for the boycott but you can't argue with the fund's rationale.
If there is zero sign of a boycott and what they want to go to provides lower returns, they should be sued out of existence.
Somebody's retirement is not a toy to be played with.
"...which, if true, means that as this gets appreciated, ESG stocks will eventually be undervalued, in which case you should buy them."
Stocks undervalued as a result of poor management will stay that way until a change in management.
The issue for fiduciaries should be performance only – but ESG is a legitimate factor when projecting performance
As Bud Light and Disney have discovered, you're 100% correct.
you’re 100% correct
That's what happens when one knows what the fuck one is talking about 🙂
Whoosh!
But what is one to expect from an obnoxiously arrogant lying piece of shit?
That was sarcasm genius
The only cases where ESG is helping, or can help, any company financially are where one or a few companies (such as BlackRock) have gotten near-monopoly control of the lending market and are denying funds, for ideological reasons, to companies that don't practice ESG.
Companies engaging in this type of blacklisting need to be destroyed by anti-trust suits, whether brought by government or by victims privately. I expect to see this happen, but not so long as Biden infests the Oval Office.
ESG is a legitimate factor when projecting performance
No, it isn't. It's an extraneous factor. The only legitimate factor in projecting performance is performance. If a given ESG-rated company performs well, and another doesn't, neither one of those empirical facts has anything to do with ESG rating. You might as well include what color the C-suite is painted as a factor that may or may not correlate with performance.
Wrong-o. Past performance is past performance. Future performance is determined by a number of factors, and one of them - particularly for a consumer-orientated company - is the activities of the consumer base. And any rational analyst is going to consider factors affecting that consumer base, whether they personally agree with what the base does.
And an analyst might hae their own view of ESG ratings - or indeed, their own ratings, It's not impossible to imagine an analyst thinks that environmental impact is undervalued while governance is overvalued in a particular sector and takes those factors into consideration.
It’s all bullshit doomed to failure. Because it isn’t really about producing returns.
ESG is like a tax on productive companies, and a jobs program for the Oppressed Studies majors.
Stop reacting and start thinking. If it turns out that consumers in a particular consumer sector like companies with higher ESGs, then ESG is a cost more akin to advertising, than any kind of tax, and companies in that sector which refuse to pay the cost - deeming it a tax - will find that they're paying a cost in revenues for not "advertising".
None of what I have been saying advocates for ESG or against. But what some of you seem incapable of is separating what a company is trying to do from how consumers or clients react to that, and an investor or their analyst will consider the latter - and CEOs and boards may make decisions on that basis.
“Stop reacting and start thinking”
A hilarious statement coming from a leftist.
Unaware that people love cigarette companies. As mentioned earlier...they have quite high ESG scores.
And if the pro-ESG companies do not perform...I could give two shits if some members of the public support them. Because they do not do so enough to buy their crap.
Nope. It won’t. Not without government force and government subsidies. ESG is bullshit. Period. Only a Marxist fool, such as yourself, believes such drivel.
Yes of course. Because free markets require that choice be illegal in investing.
"rather than their clients wishes and best interests"
Words have meaning.
How right-wing of you.
If clients didn't want ESG to be taken into account when investing, he/she would've invested in a different fund.
When retirement funds do so...then what, exactly, can they do?
"Lefties start insane trend, right-wing backlash against the insanity is stupid, though."
Thank you for that brave stand, Greenhut.
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Correct. The rest of us are supposed to just stand there and allow ESG /trans ideology to be crammed down our throats.
Ain't gonna happen.
"Only buy good ESG companies, because it's the right thing to do".
"Don't buy good ESG companies, because they're woke"
Both positions are moronic if adopted as principles.
How about making ropes and selling them to Marxists? Profits will be great, for a while.
I’d give them bullets for free.
With rapid delivery.
"Stop funding people who hate you!" - sensible position.
Those damn Christian Nationalists always making Reason write Boaf Sidez garbage just by standing there and not being Stalinists
As we know, there are no Christian nationalists. They'll tell you so themselves!
Ask MAGA Communists, they'll tell you all about them.
They’re just an idea…
There are no Soros worshipping pedophiles either. Especially not a sock puppeteer leftist who posts dark web CP links here.
Y'know, I'm getting pretty tired of those ten Christian Nationalists out there fucking everything up for everyone. Maybe Reason should write another article about them.
"Ten Ways To Tell If Christian Nationalists Are Under Your Bed And What To Do About Them"
"Is Your New Boyfriend A Christian Nationalist? Take This Easy Quiz"
"Christian Nationalist Tricks And How They Don't Want You To Think They Exist"
I love the Teen Reason feel to these headlines.
No articles about buttsex?
Not very authentic.
They’re saving that for Reason Kids. And that will be a video presented by a tranny.
Unfortunately it's generally true that Team Red backlashes in fairly retarded ways.
for example....?
Lashing out at Team Blue pawns just like Team Blue hopes they will?
Tell you what, let’s play a game of chess sometime, with you starting without any pawns.
No, I see the point. So, regular game of chess, only you aren't allowed to actually capture any pawns, just yell at them.
Except Greenhut doesn't see these as insane trends and requirements but noble goals and valuable tools in the marxist revolution. Thwarting the tools of the revolution is the only sin hear, not the initial insane programs, policies and demands.
Abusers always hate it when their victims fight back.
It’s more Reason ‘Boaf sidez’ bullshit.
Trans male New Yorker found guilty of ‘hate crime’ after attacking Asian man with hammer on subway
The victim told the New York Post at the time, “We’re trying to live our lives as well as we can, you know, and it’s just unfortunate that we have to face all these adversities, along with just all the struggles in life. It’s just unnecessary conflict and it sucks.”
“I want to get him locked up because he was pretty aggressive,” he said. “He was looking for trouble.”
“The victim was then charged with a hate crime for misgendering the brave and stunning woman+ who had hit him in the head with a hammer.”
"The good news, I suppose, is America must be such a prosperous and problem-free land that its citizens have nothing better to do than argue about the politics of the corporate behemoths that sell them food and Chinese-made clothing."
Yes, people are only able to enjoy/hate one thing at a time.
This article sucks.
But who is going to break the news to the culture warriors? Modelo's parent company, Constellation Brands, boasts that its "diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) goals…are critical components to our future success."
You're assuming Modelo surpassed Bud Light due to inheriting their customers. More likely, Modelo gained few if any Bud Light drinkers, and became #1 simply due to the loss of business to Bud Light.
Nothing to trouble the culture warriors at all.
He also seems oddly annoyed that the Right did not scour Constellation Brands site to seek out their views on all issues.
They do not CARE as long as it is not forced down their throats.
Bud Light did that.
So they can happily go fuck themselves.
It also misses the fact that, if you don't have a DEI office, you may end up severely disadvantaged when it comes to investment and banking. Companies the size of AB Inbev or Molson Coors or even Constellation brands are pretty jealous of their liquidity options. They're huge, they have to be. That's why most corporate governance includes that kind of horseshit these days, under that name.
Just the first google link here: https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/inside-the-woke-scoring-system-guiding-american-companies/
You'd also think "libertarians" would not be supportive of such nonsense. but you would be wrong.
yeah, Reason "libertarians" pretty much are only "libertarians" with the quotes around them. Titular, but not actual.
But, you know, the right is in a culture war hurr durr... fuck man. Social credit scores on their way, and the folks who are for activist governance control them. But complain and Reason will say you're the culture warrior.
Bud Light did nothing of the sort. They simply aired an ad. There was no throat-forcing involved.
The tranny bullshit and the idiot VP of marketing --- still not fired, mind you --- was doing that. Everything is just making their mistake worse.
That's gotta look bad on a resume though -- led marketing campaign that caused parent company to lose 30% of its value.
To be fair, she didn't have anything of value on her resume in the first place. She graduated Wharton, but after that she interned then spoke the right buzzwords to fail up into her current, suspended, position. If she wasn't a progressive woman, during this uniquely fucked up point in American history and politics, she'd never have been a VP with that kind of power in a major corporation.
She was a diversity hire, a narcissist who added a female to the C suite, and who talked the talk. No ideas, no understanding, no relevant experience, no shame, no self-awareness. Nothing but her XX chromosomes.
THEY DIDN’T FIRE THAT STUPID CUNT? Goddamn, they’re done for. I really hope they destroy themselves over this.
Nope. Only suspended as of now.
After her suspension, maybe she has some more bright ideas and will cost them another $30 billion.
He also seems oddly annoyed that the Right did not scour Constellation Brands site to seek out their views on all issues.
They do not CARE as long as it is not forced down their throats.
Bud Light did that.
^THIS^
I see no problem retaliating against ESG movement.
As for the Bud Lite fiasco, the company leaders share the blame for hiring that narcissist what's- her -name knowing full well what she is and they supported her campaign. Just continue to cram woke/trans politics down people's throats and see what happens.
Besides, Budweiser tastes like it was strained through a horse. Horrid crap. Who makes beer from rice anyway? Anyone who drinks that guzzle obviously doesn't know what a real beer tastes like.
I have no sympathy for Inbev or Budweiser. Choke on it.
ho makes beer from rice anyway?
Many Japanese breweries. This actually makes their beers a good accompaniment to sushi. But your general point is spot on.
The culture war isn't a waste of time, it's an existential battle against totalitarian nihilists.
The Trump vs DeSantis psyop on the other hand, leads to people becoming prog Karens
https://twitter.com/AngryRisbell72/status/1672095474017247233?t=TVD0nHUxeFXTvdBjJjtRwQ&s=19
This is absolutely disgusting. This is MAGA folks, this is Team Trump.
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That’s actually pretty fuckin funny.
Is this idiot even a Republican? Or is it some false flag bullshit Twitter account.
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If it doesn't include an article on how to start a Libertarian Investment portfolio, no!
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Matt Walsh made this thread arguing the trans movement is rooted in Nazism. He massively distorts history to try and fit this narrative.
In doing so, he also undermines the many contributions made to trans acceptance by the Jewish community. Here are some examples:
2/8 Walsh mentions Magnus Hirschfeld as his example of a Nazi scientist. Hirschfeld was actually Jewish and gay, and fled Germany on the Nazis taking power.
His sex research institute oversaw the first trans surgery, and he created the first ever LGBT advocacy organisations.
3/8 Walsh also mentions the Nazi scientist Erwin Gohrbandt, who helped perform the first transgender surgery.
But for this surgery Gohrbandt was assistant to a more prominent LGBT rights campaigner called Ludwig Levy-Lenz, who Walsh for some reason omits from his list.
4/8 Gayle Rubin is regarded as the founder of Queer Theory.
Rubin argued there exists a "sex-gender system" which regulates sexuality through the imposition of gender. She argued for dismantling "hierarchies of sexual value" and normalising sexual behaviour considered deviant.
5/8 Leslie Feinberg was a trans activist and communist whose work was influential in making her the first to argue for a Marxist concept of “transgender liberation”.
Her novel Stone Butch Blues was also helped to bring these issues to a global audience.
6/8 Jennifer Pritzker is a transgender member of the very influential Pritzker family.
They through their philanthropy have arguably done more to advance the trans movement than anyone.
7/8 Sirius XM founder Martine Rothblatt is one of the biggest philanthropists for trans issues.
Rothblatt wrote something of a manifesto on the trans movement in 2011: From Transgender to Transhuman, arguing transgenderism was part of a broader progression to a transhuman future
8/8 Finally, George Soros' Open Society Foundation has also been at the forefront of promoting trans acceptance.
The OSF has taken very progressive stances on issues like hormone treatment for minors, and is funding organisations advocating for trans equality across the world.
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"The trannies are Nazis". Sure. Whatever.
It's hilarious how stupid Jeff is.
More so than his self admitted morbid obesity? Or his pedophilic adjacent worldview?
Why not? You are.
By all means, continue chipping away at that idiotic boomercon talking point
I don't get it. "The Nazis were bad, but not that bad"? "It's really all the Jews' fault"?
Stop noticing goy!
Are you saying Misek is a tranny?
Lesseeee here ....
The public boycotts companies who offend them.
Wokies force through government laws to punish those who offend them.
One of these is not like the other. You had two guesses. You still failed.
https://twitter.com/Huff4Congress/status/1672221103798861826?t=EXQ2ncqrv-lBwxjTvGYz_Q&s=19
Author friends: imagine you’re writing a novel or screenplay and you write a character who does everything Hunter Biden is confirmed to have done.
You wouldn’t.
It’s too unbelievable. It strains credibility too far.
Let’s go.
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States should enact "clear fiduciary duty laws that define who is responsible for state investment" and allow them to use ESG factors only if they promise to yield better financial results,
This sounds like a reasonable position. Hence no one is going to do it.
Nah. Just ban ESG. Along with all other forms of Marxism.
When everything revolves around Gov-Guns; everything becomes a culture war. You can thank your Democrats for that sh*t.
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1672183469278109696?t=NLarRUzBeRJ8uzM2MXXfmw&s=19
Lindsey Graham is preparing to false flag a nuclear disaster in Ukraine to trigger Article 5 and get the US directly involved with ground forces to fight against Russia. World War 3 here we come.
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https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1672247639113449475?t=dt8x10Ko2kXSx2BFcq8eqw&s=19
Lindsey Graham and Dick Blumenthal senate resolution basically says any event in Ukraine which allegedly results in "dispersal of radioactive contaminants" should be cause for invoking Article 5 of the NATO Treaty and officially going to war against Russia (and Belarus)
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Well, fuck Lindsey Graham, then. He can fly his own ass over there and pick up a rifle.
Out Miss Lindsey is too busy planning long walks on the beach, holding hands with Ricky Martin.
I need to watch Dr Strangelove one last time.
They seem oblivious to the lack of good guys there.
It's like the start of World War II. Yes, Hitler invaded the USSR. It did not make Stalin a good guy.
It's really too bad Hitler's army failed.At least they knocked out Stalin's plans to invade western Europe.
On the other hand, Europe and U,K are for all intents and purposes under a form of Stalinism. The only difference is the lack of gulags....for now.
Communism is when ugly deformed freaks make it illegal to be normal, then rob and/or kill successful people out of petty resentment and cruelty. The ideology is all just window dressing.
Now we have corporate communism.
It’s just the latest turn of the dialectic.
One of the very predictable side-effects of [Na]tional So[zi]alism.
If you don't want corporations to have Gov-Gun Power don't give them Gov-Gun power through socialism. (i.e. Don't ask the 'Liberty' and 'Justice' entity to be/make sh*t and end up being the corporate entity as well.)
So let’s get rid of them.
"...At the retail level, the culture wars have taken a particularly silly turn as conservatives celebrate Anheuser-Busch's falling stock prices following a widespread boycott of Bud Light after it partnered with a transgender social-media influencer to promote the beer..."
Rather than blame individuals for expressing their displeasure financially, you could place the blame exactly where should be: A company selling goods to the public choosing to make a political statement.
Cobbler, stick to your last.
Made me chuckle
https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1672208106997047296?t=TQxMkmlAXXlB-0yVxqawCw&s=19
“We” put our heads together and visualized the war, if NATO would enter the conflict.
-> See for yourself, I don’t think they have a chance …
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https://twitter.com/Maarblek/status/1672225603469340672?t=EXIuCk1NTshpBydjpdIWLQ&s=19
it's funny that european politicians also do the "we are a nation of immigrants" routine
American politicians at least have the fig leaf of our colonial origins, these guys are over there calling William the Conqueror a migrant worker lol
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they are just lying, they do not believe their own bullshit.
Mecca is a *city* of immigrants. Open the borders there, then we can talk about all the others.
State-run pension funds are madness in and of themselves.
In California, officials are pushing pension funds to divest from fossil fuels, firearms manufacturers, and tobacco companies. Red states are retaliating.
In blue states, people are being attacked with knives and pitchforks. In Red States, the people with defensive knife wounds on their hands are sending mean tweets in retaliation.
Any day now, we should expect another mass shooting by an angry trans claiming victimhood,
Oh, come on now. Chicago has MAGA Republicans roving the streets looking for gay, black, Subway-sandwich-havers to hang and I have it on superficially-credible authority that Ellen Page was sexually assaulted by a nameless, but totally irreplaceable and in a position of unquestioned authority, stage hand like 20 yrs. ago. And despite crime being down in NYC regular, ordinary, run-of-the-mill leftists like Austin Simon, Jordan Neely, Cody Gonzalez (to say nothing of slightly more purple-to-red state leftists like Joseph Rosenbaum, Garrett Foster, and Anthony Huber) are getting gunned down or snuffed out like every day.
Mass shooting in Saginaw, Mi.
https://www.wnem.com/2023/06/24/saginaw-shooting-two-dead-several-injured/
It reminds me of the chorus from a Cake song about consumerism: "You're drinkin' what they're selling now. Your self-destruction doesn't hurt them."
LOL, it's factually incorrect retardedness from Reason all. the. way. down. First, the actual chorus, for anyone interested is:
Second, what's quoted is only part of the third verse:
Third, in line with the *complete* verse above, the subject of parody in the song *isn't* people boycotting let alone the specific people boycotting. Choosing a different brand of beer other than the one you previously chose isn't excess.
The song is, rather specifically, parodying hipster/beatnik music nerd like Nick Gillespie. People who have (had) CD collections, wear (Italian-branded) leather jackets, souvenir guitar chunks... rather the opposite of people who wear shitkickers, ride Harleys, and drink (or used to) drink Bud Light.
For Greenhut, I recommend some Bob Dylan. Postitively 4th Street, and pretty much any/all of it.
For Greenhut: https://genius.com/Bob-dylan-positively-4th-street-lyrics
Verse 1:
You got a lot of nerve
To say you are my friend
When I was down
You just stood there grinning
You got a lot of nerve
To say you got a helping hand to lend
You just want to be on
The side that’s winning
“No, I do not feel that good when I see the heartbreaks you embrace
If I was a master thief perhaps I'd rob them
And tho I know you're dissatisfied with your position and your place
Don't you understand, its not my problem?”
The answer to so much of the politicized victimhood being foisted onto everybody.
Hey, Greenhut, send this along to Nick Gillespie while he's swiveling his hips and snapping his fingers, Beatnik-style, asking "like, what even are the stakes here, maaan" and talking about Promethean Transformations.
Or better yet, just tell him to "sit on the sidelines" in the culture war. That's the best place for him.
Guys like Gillespie think that they are above it all. But, like Wiley Coyote, he'll soon discover that there's nothing holding him up.
If Gillespie lost his jacket he’d lose his personality.
Who is going to break the news to Greenhut, that Modelo's ESG-approved ad they were thinking of producing has now gone into the dumpster before it ever saw the light of day because they saw what happened to Bud Light, Call of Duty and Disney.
Are they investing in things that help the environment, instituting fair employment policies, and embracing corporate transparency?
Yeah, man, like it's just about pronouns, man!
CalPERS is not a private bowling alley, making prudent business decisions on behalf of its customers who can shop elsewhere if they don't like the toppings on the pizza, Greenhut. for fuck sakes.
Communism is just about giving workers a fair voice, what could be wrong with that.
Brendan O'Neill, author of book with first chapter titled "Her Penis" which Nick Gillespie got stuck on for at least 30+ minutes in an hour long interview (I stopped listening), interviews Sharron Davies on the impact of trans-ideology on women's sports. She brings receipts, in case there are still questions on "what the stakes are".
“That’s where this latest cultural battlefront is becoming dangerous.” Governments should not even HAVE retirement funds. They shouldn’t even have EMPLOYEES! I would estimate that 99% of government employees perform no legitimate government functions and the few who DO perform legitimate government functions could easily be contracted out to private employers. There are lots of excellent reasons for government not to try to emulate private enterprise and almost none that justify the “financial clout” mentioned in the article. Employees, whether private sector or public sector, should make their own financial arrangements and public arrangements like Social Security should be terminated with extreme prejudice immediately.
ESG is a prime example of the motte and bailey. The motte is that businesses need to consider ESG factors in their daily operations. Yes, we want companies to consider the risks of polluting, discriminating, violating regulations and all the other behaviors that can result in remediation, fines, reputation loss etc. The bailey is scoring companies on esoteric and pseudoscientific criteria and migrating the economy towards further cronyism by allowing activist owners and management the ability to deny business as a means to exert political pressure on free markets.
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Odd, isn’t it, that before the spontaneous boycott of Bud Lite there wasn’t a word from Greenhut about BDS, the Palestinian backed demand that state employee pension funds Boycott, Divest and Sanction any company doing business in Israel.
Is BDS exempt from the culture wars? Or is it only a culture war when red states engage in it?
It's not that odd. Greenhut seems to think ESG is the hot new topic, having missed the conversation, as a 'conservative,' for the last year.
Unless you're out on the Alaskan tundra, there's a craft brewer near you who cares about your money and not your politics. Buy a beer from them.
For the same reason that federal agencies should be moved out of DC to prevent intellectual and cultural inbreeding, Reason Magazine needs to move to a state where they won't be constantly subjected to one side, the side of government agencies, where Reason writers absorb progressive attitudes by osmosis.
Eventually there will be a shareholder lawsuit that will put an end to this woke insanity.
unfortunately i can't participate in bud boycott -- i don't drink horse piss. i like to drink actual beer.
Yes me too. There are so many good craft beer out there I have no reason to drink their gay mass produced horse piss, and haven't for a long time before this ad campaign. It also supports local businesses.
Don't Let Culture Wars Castrate Your Son or Sterilize Your Daughter
Wanna know which one is more important to me? Guess!
Don’t Let Culture Wars Weaken the Financial System
I like beer so I buy and drink beer. I am guessing many of you do too. Is Reason telling us our money does more for the financial system if I buy from a major brewery than if I buy it from a local or state craft brewer? Has anyone that drank Bud Light quit drinking beer completely over the Bud Light fiasco? Well I think Reason doesn’t understand much about beer drinkers, economics ur the financial system if that is the case.
I love my country a lot more than I like the financial system.
In fact, I wouldn’t mind if the latter died a horrible death.
Financial titans forcing ESG on companies through a preferred loan system using money from government and union pension plans is by definition the culture war weakening the financial system you blithering buffoon. Perhaps what you meant to say you stupid fuckwit is that we should trust in the financial system to recover from the damage caused by the culture wars when it all comes crashing down.
A beer brand is easily replaced, and Bud Light was one of the worst beers anyway. Target would be harder to replace since they have little competition, and Walmart is worse at almost everything. Tesla makes the best electric cars by far, so much so that even the woke lefty tech industry types in Silicon Valley continue to buy them. Chik-Fil-A is hands down the best fast food joint, with cars lined up out to the street, even in Progressive CA.
If investors want to avoid companies they disagree with politically, good for them. The rest of us will look for the best returns.
I want to replace Marxists with humans.
"At the retail level, the culture wars have taken a particularly silly turn as conservatives celebrate Anheuser-Busch's falling stock prices following a widespread boycott of Bud Light after it partnered with a transgender social-media influencer to promote the beer. The Mexican beer Modelo has soared into the top spot in U.S. beer sales as a result."
Amazing... Does no one realize that Anheuser-Busch and Grupo Modelo are both subsidiaries of Anheuser-Busch InBev? (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InBev)
Do the people at InBev's HQ in Belgium give a damn which beer people buy since they're making and selling both?
I'd be surprised if they did.
Modelo is owned by InBev in most of the world, except for the USA.
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Weaken the financial system ? Companies will cave long before that happens. If not the system should collapse.
How is it "madness" when red states are opposing this crap?
You just can't get out of your "both sides" mindset, can you?
No, they can’t.
Because it's only a culture war if the other side fights back.
Sorry. We are in the midst of a culture war. We have Pride Month, ESG, etc on the one side. And on the other side, we have all the people who oppose it. And that includes the millions whose children are being stolen from them by a leftist school system, who don’t want their kids groomed by the trans community, who want some control over the raising of their children, those who believe in the American Way, in promotions masked on merit and not diversity scores, which are, essentially, a way to impose quotas on businesses, etc. All they really have on their side is their ability to vote with their feet.
And Greenhut doesn’t think that is fair. Tough. It’s reality. Consumers, for the most part don’t like to be shit on. It’s simple - shit on consumers, and they will go elsewhere for their business, where they are more appreciated. Marketing 101 says that the consumer is king. Bud Light, Target, etc, forgot that, and are paying the price. He wants consumers to just sit still and take the brainwashing. They won’t.
It's not about the beer or the economy. It's about cutting the head off the LGBTP rainbow cult.
STEVEN GREENHUT is western region director for the R Street Institute and was previously the Union-Tribune's California columnist.
What is R-Street? Should I care about any columns form CA?