CNN Gave Trump a Megaphone and He Used It Exactly as You'd Expect
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Was there any way last night's televised town hall with former President Donald Trump wasn't going to turn into one long, free advertisement for his 2024 campaign? Trump lied about the 2020 election and about classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago, told the female journalist interviewing him that she was "nasty," and insulted the woman he was just found liable for sexually abusing ("what kind of a woman meets somebody and brings them up and within minutes you're playing hanky-panky in a dressing room?") while insisting he's never met her. But he did it with his characteristic humor, bravado, and showmanship, a say-anything shtick that many Americans—even those who may not agree with all of his policies or personal decisions—find appealing. And he was given the opportunity to do all this uninterrupted by opposing candidates.
This was CNN giving Trump a chance to put on a nice one-man show—and if that's what the network wants do to, so be it. But one imagines that's not actually what folks at CNN wanted to do. It just goes to show how little the media have learned about Trump since he burst into the political arena in 2015.
Complaints from pundits about the very premise of the town hall aren't hard to come by. The audience was composed of people who plan to vote in the Republican primary who laughed and applauded easily at Trump's antics. He steamrolled CNN moderator Kaitlan Collins, whom some are criticizing for her trouble pushing back against Trump. (Not everyone agrees, though; Collins was "in an impossible position but did a heroic job," New York Times Chief White House Correspondent Peter Baker said.)
Most of the complaints boil down to one underlying thing: CNN simply handing Trump a megaphone to campaign in front of a nationwide audience, for free.
With that megaphone, Trump dared anyone to object that he had changed in the past eight or so years. There was no mistaking in Trump's performance anything like reflection about his role in the whole Capitol riot fiasco ("one of the big problems was that Nancy Pelosi—crazy Nancy as I affectionately call her, crazy Nancy and the mayor of Washington were charged as you know of security, and they did not do their job," he said) or less bombast about sexual antics in light of the recent verdict finding him guilty of sexual abuse.
During the trial, he had defended his Access Hollywood tape comments about women letting stars grab them "by the pussy." He told Collins yesterday, "You would like me to take that back. I can't take it back because it happens to be true."
For Trump supporters, it was a lot of red meat. But for swing voters, Trump's same-old act could backfire. There are a lot of folks who aren't totally opposed to Trump, or at least really don't like President Joe Biden, who are also turned off by some of Trump's excesses—his continued fixation on the 2020 election, for instance. The way he resorts constantly to personal insults. His continued defense of crude comments about women.
The kind of stuff that his base loves is the kind of stuff that makes many moderates wary.
"It was kind of the same old thing, the same old regurgitation. He had a chance to move on from 2020, he didn't do it," New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, a Republican, told CNN's Anderson Cooper after the town hall. "So if you're an independent voter, if you're a suburban mom, all these voters that Republicans are trying to bring back into the mix, I don't see any of them being convinced."
"Whenever he was asked about the economy, he gave one brief response on energy policy, but really didn't address the broad range of things we have in our economy to get it going again," commented former Arkansas Gov. Asa Hutchinson, who is challenging Trump for the Republican nomination.
To the extent that substantive issues came into play, Trump was his usual grab bag of idiosyncratic positions—not all of which are at odds with limited government or libertarian thought. He said Republicans were "going to have to do a default" on debt if Democrats wouldn't agree to "massive cuts" in spending. He promised—though it's unclear how this would be accomplished—to end the war in Ukraine "in one day, in 24 hours" if elected president, saying that his position was "I want everyone to stop dying."
He also promised to bring back migrant family separations at the border. And he said he would only accept the 2024 election results "if I think it's an honest election."
Interestingly—and probably shrewdly—Trump would not say whether he would sign into law a federal ban on abortion. Rather, he promised to "make a determination what he thinks is great for the country and what's fair for the country."
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American conservatives are becoming more European. That's not a good thing, suggests Francis Fukuyama at Persuasion:
One of the staples of my teaching of comparative politics over the years was to point out the differences between European and American conservatives. The former were generally comfortable with the exercise of state power, and indeed sought to use power to enforce religious or cultural values (the old unity of "throne and altar.") American conservatives, on the other hand, were different in their emphasis on individual liberty, a small state, property rights, and a vigorous private sector. In Seymour Martin Lipset's account of American exceptionalism, American politics were thoroughly imbued with a Lockean liberalism that saw the government limiting its own power through a strict rule of law. These principles defined the Republican Party under Ronald Reagan, which wanted lower taxes, deregulation, federalism, and multiple limits on state power.
This understanding of conservatism has now been upended with the rise of Trumpist populism. Trump himself was perfectly comfortable with big government spending, promising to protect entitlements and approving a huge Covid relief package even as he cut taxes. He was happy to use the Justice Department to go after his enemies, and chafed at the restrictions on police powers in putting down protests in the wake of the George Floyd killing in 2020.
Florida Governor Ron DeSantis has in recent months been trying to outdo Trump in his willingness to deploy the state to combat "woke" values. He has sought to take control of education materials at multiple levels, attempting to ban gender studies and critical race theory in state universities, and singled out the Disney Company—Florida's largest employer—for punishment because it was too woke. These actions were framed not in terms of general rules for corporations in Florida, but punitive actions applying to a single company.
Reason's Stephanie Slade has written extensively about the new American right. A few pieces to check out:
- The Rise of Right-Progressivism
- Against the New Nationalism
- The GOP's Pitchfork Populism Is Older Than Trump
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The Food and Drug Administration has approved one brand of oral contraception for over-the-counter sale. It's a welcome—and long overdue—step. Now the agency should move to make all birth control pills available without a prescription, Josh Bloom, director of chemical and pharmaceutical science at the American Council on Science in Health, and Jeffrey A. Singer, a surgeon and Cato Institute senior fellow, write:
For decades, the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, the American Academy of Family Physicians, the American Medical Association, and the vast majority of practicing reproductive physicians have called for the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to make hormonal contraceptives (e.g., birth control pills) available over the counter (OTC) to women of all ages.
When experts in the field who get paid for prescribing hormonal contraceptives nonetheless keep telling patients, "You don't need to see me for this," government regulators should take notice. Women can get birth control pills OTC in over 100 countries, formally or informally, around the globe. It's time for them to be OTC in the "land of the free."
The FDA might soon give access to a type of birth control pill that has been available only by prescription since 1973; in fact, today, an FDA panel voted unanimously to make birth control pills available OTC. But here's a catch: women will only have access to one brand of one kind of birth control pill, a progestin-only pill sometimes called the "mini-pill."
Unlike regular birth control pills, which contain two female hormones, estrogen and progesterone, the mini-pill doesn't affect milk production in nursing mothers and is less likely to cause blood clots in women who smoke. To put this in perspective, pregnancy is more likely to cause clots than any pill to prevent it.
But, the mini-pill, while it may be slightly safer to use than other birth control pills, has drawbacks.
For example, the mini-pill only works if women take it at the same hour daily. If they take it more than three hours late, women must use another contraceptive for the rest of the month and start the cycle again. The same is true if they miss a day. With regular birth control pills, if women miss a day in the cycle, they can take two pills the following day.
While better than the status quo, the FDA shouldn't restrict women's OTC options to safer progestin-only pills, not to mention one progestin-only product. Unlike regulators in, say, Portugal, Brazil, or Mexico, the FDA doesn't think American women can weigh the risks and benefits of various birth control pills and decide which is best for them—even if reproductive specialists believe they can.
More here.
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CNN Gave Trump a Megaphone and He Used It Exactly as You'd Expect
What kind of journalist would platform this man???
The angry spitting is implied in the headline.
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A moist and delicious verbal murdering of the CNN sippycup.
They once again underestimated the man.
One that wants to run reruns.
Interviewing one of the leading Presidential candidates is what a journalist should be doing. Conducting the interview in front of an audience purposely packed with MAGA fans was an odd choice.
How dare CNN allow trump voters to attend, only hostile audience members should be allowed.
Now how about that great Biden interview with the fawning press.
Also, cite on the audience being all MAGA fans? Or is it because they just didn't scream vitriol at him?
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This says everything about Mike that needs to be said. It is "odd" for a politician to have a town hall?I guess not-odd means letting credentialed elites handle the vetting of our representatives.
It is amazing how pretty much every time you scratch a lefty libertarian like Mike or Chemjeff, you find an authoritarian.
Funny how that works, huh?
""Interviewing one of the leading Presidential candidates is what a journalist should be doing""
True. How many Biden interviews will there be? I'm guessing the left media will have no problem not doing their job there.
And yet again Mike exposes himself as a Democrat shill.
A buddy of mine who had TDS recently said he could vote for Trump, he think he learned quite a lot and would be more effective the second time. I was shocked..he added that economically he did much better with Trump than Biden and is sick of American's foreign wars. If Trump can control his stupidity he could win
"How many Biden interviews will there be?"
Likely none. The lighting is terrible in Joey's basement. Besides, it's all clogged up with football helmets and footballs that he got from who knows where.
Disagree. I'm sure Rachel Madcow (or a slobbering equivalent) will interview Biden. The questions will be pre-arranged, as usual, and SloJo will have note cards or a teleprompter.
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an audience purposely packed with MAGA fans
Here you go again, adding your own assumptions. How do you know it was packed with MAGA fans and who was responsible for purposely doing that. Seemed like NH people who were interested in what a potential candidate had to say in a townhall forum, which is usually a give and take between candidate and crowd. The moderator was disruptive.
You can roll your eyes again if you want. Just playing your game of asking for precise language when you make a statement.
Fair enough. I assumed, without solid reason, the audience was "purposely" packed with MAGAs.
The audience was purposely filled with Republicans, and the reason I assume there was a high concentration of MAGAs is their response to Trump:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2023/05/11/metro/how-was-audience-cnn-trump-town-hall-selected/
When asked about CNN’s process for selecting audience members and questions, a spokesperson said the network “followed its traditional approach to source an appropriate audience” composed of Republican and undeclared voters “who say they plan to vote in the upcoming New Hampshire Republican primary.”
The spokesperson declined to elaborate on what that “traditional approach” entails.
Senior vice president Matt Dornic, who oversees strategic communications for CNN Worldwide, said in a series of tweets Thursday that the town hall attendees included people who had been invited by a variety of organizations and “curated” by the network.
“The audience was curated by CNN through community groups, student politics and government, faith groups, agriculture and education orgs, as well as (Republican) groups,” Dornic wrote. “The school and campaign also invited guests.”
Yes. The audience was purposely filled with Republicans AND undeclared voters who planned to vote in the Republican primary. Looks like they curated from a number of sources. Maybe the reaction was not so much MAGA as people tired of the current administration.
Thanks for the acknowledgement. Appreciate it.
According to the intro, CNN claimed basically half of the audience were Republican voters and the other half was undecided/independent. A few of the audience questions were framed in a purely Democrat establishment manner. The audience overall did seem to enjoy most of what Trump said and laughed and jeered when she kept pushing bullshit narratives.
If this was meant to be a republican townhall it would have been nice to see the moderator push from a republican perspective. To CNN's credit they allowed some good questions that Trump mostly answered well
Just playing your game of asking for precise language when you make a statement.
It's not a game. I hold other commenters here to a high standard of not making shit up, and it's fair for you to call me out on it when I make shit up.
Your rules then.
Yet you've muted everyone who has done so.
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Was there any way last night's televised town hall with former President Donald Trump wasn't going to turn into one long, free advertisement for his 2024 campaign?
It's hardly Trump's fault if CNN couldn't find a reporter up to the challenge of interviewing this former president and current candidate.
It's also probably not a good idea for news organizations to try to ignore him. They shot themselves in the foot with the years of lies of their own about an administration that had plenty of legitimate problems to go after.
A lot of leftist Twitter is now claiming Acosta is the only one worth watching on CNN. Which says a lot.
Hey, they had Trump on; probably gave their ratings a half-hour spike.
No significant comment on his war stance? The only adult candidate in the room. No one wins at war is the real truth.
And I single out his war stance, not his other stuff that deserves some pushback on.
His drilling stance is also good.
The fact that over 70% of drilling activity shut down while Fatass was president?
Or that over 100 US Oil & Gas companies declared bankruptcy while he was president?
THAT is what a real journalist would have reminded the audience of cultists of. Then Fatass would call her an “Ugly Bitch” and the cultists would swoon.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"The fact that over 70% of drilling activity shut down while Fatass was president?
Or that over 100 US Oil & Gas companies declared bankruptcy while he was president?"
Links?
Keep in mind that before Biden, gas prices were effectively half of what it is today, and some oil producing companies purposely reduced production to control prices. Oil prices are speculative, and oil companies won't drill more when supply is abundant.
Trump was never against drilling. Biden and his green team is. He cancelled Keystone project and did nothing about supply shortages that deterred drilling process, which is a time consuming process to begin with. Did he do anything to fast track local regulations that come into play? He did nothing. He just ended up wasting tons of our oil reserve and does nothing as gas price near 5 bucks a gallon again in LA, Your "I oppose Trump AND Biden" act fools nobody.
I'm willing to guess he's talking about during the pandemic.
"His drilling stance is also good."
Do you mean drilling porn stars? /sarc (sorry, too fun not to ask)
Honestly don't care where he puts his dick.
Not one of those who treats politicians as a parental figure. Policy is separate from behavior. Policy effects me, not tweets.
"Honestly don’t care where he puts his dick."
Neither do I. Even if I did, he has a long way to go to equal the track record set by Clinton, to say nothing about Kennedy, or LBJ, who probably tops the list of presidential philanderers.
""Honestly don’t care where he puts his dick.""
Hillary talking about Bill?
Fair.
I'm going to call it an old Arkansas joke. It was true when Bill was governor. Look at how long and successful that serial sexual predator political career has been. He still has influence and support. And liberals can't figure out why Trump and sexual assault is falling flat.
Even Reason is admitting his post ion on regulations is laudable, now that droolin' Joe is adding them by the buckets.
Best POTUS in the last 100 years, but TDS-addled shits want a daddy figure, not a POTUS.
Many libertarians have ignored those stances such as his demand for 10% cuts to all federal agencies or remove 2 regulations for any 1 added. Either through not perfect enough or couldn't get it done due to The Resistance ignoring his mandates as president.
Pretty sure that TDS alone explains it.
Remember being a teen and personality was all that mattered? Well, some of us became adults and too many just got older.
You expect that or turd or Tony, but brandyshit is a prize example of someone who claims to be libertarian, but despises Trump regardless of his actions, policies or results.
Fuck 'em all with a running, rusty chainsaw - they OWN droolin' Joe and everything he stands for.
The only way to win is to not play
Best quote of the event:
We put three great justices on the Supreme Court. We have almost 300 federal judges on the Supreme Court.
Talk about your court-packing!!
Yeah, the Ukraine stance and a few other things are pretty good. Getting out of the Ukraine mess and at least attempting to do something about the size of government seem like about the most important things a president can do right now. I don't think Trump is the best person to do them, but at least he's saying it.
We're not "in" Ukraine, moron. We're selling them weapons like we do 30-40 other countries.
Quit coughing up wingnut propaganda.
Add "selling" to your vocabulary list. You clearly don't know the meaning of that word either.
Lol. Yeah, it sure does seem to cost the US taxpayers a lot o’ money to “sell” stuff to that one country.
In shrike’s defense, he’s a chicken hawk dipshit.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Explain that to the nukes, if Putin starts lobbing them.
If Putin decides to go nuclear, he has no problem with creating a pretense for doing so, including false flag operations or just outright lying about how Russia is being victimized by the West.
Everytime i think buttplug has achieved peak idiocy he kicks it up a notch. truly impressive.
"It just goes to show how little the media have learned about Trump since he burst into the political arena in 2015."
Or maybe the media knows exactly what it's doing: helping Trump get the nomination because he's highly unlikely to beat Biden.
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That was my impression, too. I'd say it's a lot more likely that Collins was set up to play the jobber tole to Trump and make him a more appealing option to the GOP base.
I don't doubt she's an idiot and punching way above her weight class, but I'm rather skeptical that she wasn't told to not engage with Trump the way, say, one of the 60 Minutes blabheads would. This smacks more of a Morning Joe setup where Joe and Mika spent several weeks boosting Trump's signal in the service of getting Hillary a beatable opponent.
The problem is twofold here: 1) Elon's not as censorious as the previous Twitter regime, so even if Trump doesn't use Twitter, his followers will be more than happy to make that up on the platform, and 2) Biden's so unpopular now that even his Chamber of Commerce supporters might not be on board with saving him, if they think that taking a more neutral stance will get them back in the GOP's good graces and avoid fights like what Disney is having with DeSantis.
It worked well for Hillary.
AWFL's are 75D chess masters!
Still not convinced that dems are bad enough to lose to orange man, eh? (Short of boots on the ground in Ukraine).
Well, there’s still a year and a half. Over/under on when you change your mind? When the economy gets (more) stupid. I give it 6 months.
Or maybe the media knows exactly what it’s doing: helping Trump get the nomination because he’s highly unlikely to beat Biden.
Of course.
That's why they're destroying the legal system in their desperation to attach a felony conviction to him so he CAN'T run.
Because they're sure Biden can beat him.
The entertaining part of the CNN show is all the fascists running to condemn them for allowing a presidential candidate to speak freely to the part of the American public that still watches CNN.
Thought for the day:
Will CNN (or anyone) put Joe Biden alone on a stage with anyone who is allowed to ask any questions at all, no previews allowed?
Will CNN (or anyone) put Joe Biden alone on a stage with anyone who is allowed to ask any questions at all, no previews allowed?
No fucking way. Joe has already refused DNC debates.
They take the mask off so much, I feel like its more off than on.
But yes, lots of them in hysterics over possibly letting a political candidate for president.
What did they scream when Tucker was fired? That deplatforming is good, and we should see that he doesn't get one. The naive AOC, thinking Tucker didn't just get more powerful than he's ever been before.
They want to keep the bubble intact. And that bubble requires 24/7 J6, indictments, Trump is guilty and evil, Republicans are bad and racist, and even hearing a contradictory opinion is dangerous to their perfectly cultivated views.
This is why they are having a little melty today
Favorite clip is the interview with the audience post debate when the first question asked was "why is trump focused on 2020 and not 2024" and the audience member says "2020 was CNN first question to him."
Yeah, that's probably the really amazing thing here. People talking as if allowing a major public figure and popular presidential candidate to speak is somehow a bad thing. Censorship really has become a major value of the left.
Always was
This was CNN giving Trump a chance to put on a nice one-man show—and if that's what the network wants do to, so be it.
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with this sentiment. Strongly. News media have to be interviewing candidates. I can't stand Trump or Biden but shying away from challenging them would make CNN either negligent or shills.
And is also why CNN (and other corporate media outlets) are so terrible at interviewing candidates, lack of practice of non-scripted content. Stop being propagandist and start asking good thoughtful questions, and they're reporter pool will get better at it in time.
The problem is that journalism schools don't teach journalism now, they teach how to use news media to be activists for Current Year marxism.
Asking good thoughtful questions isn't in their wheelhouse, advancing towards a communist society is the actual purpose.
Just because the coups were quick and dirty in Poland and Czechoslovakia doesn't mean the Stalinists didn't employ the same tactics in the US. We are in year 78 of their post-war plan to infiltrate academia and take control of the media.
It never ceases to amaze me how ENB, libertarian as she purports to be, always seems to latch onto the blue-bubble narrative. Under almost any other circumstance the libertarian response is "fight information with more information." But in this case, ENB gives us the "private speech" platitudes, and then launches into a diatribe declaring that THIS information should be squelched.
And thus, ENB has given us no more than the same thin gruel analysis offered at every other blue bubble news shop. She has nothing substantive to say about Trump's performance- she does almost nothing to "counter information with information". She doesn't explain why Trump is wrong to offer clemency for J6 rioters. She says nothing about his stance on the war in Ukraine. The only thing she can say is that Trump is "guilty" (not true) of sexual abuse.
For someone who is so critical of how a platform used its opportunity to speak about Trump, ENB has absolutely wasted hers in a completely unlibertarian way.
"And thus, ENB has given us no more than the same thin gruel analysis offered at every other blue bubble news shop."
A daily occurrence, that the lefties here seem to have no issues with. Reason's coverage now aligns with Vox, the Guardian and MSNBC, repeating all of the same talking points they do
Uh huh. If tReason doesn't cover the issues of the day with the same rhetoric as a right-wing rag, they are being lefties.
It amazes me that you're amazed.
Reason is clearly an organ dedicated to promoting totalitarian globalist progressivism to "non partisans" using the shabbily patched disguise of being nominally libertarian.
I mean, it's not difficult to see they're taking orders from the leftist/globalist cabal.
Just yesterday they ran articles about how an allegation against Trump that has no evidence should be believed and about freshman Congressman Santos being indicted, while completely (and conspicuously) avoiding any mention of BANK RECORDS for 9 of President Biden's immediate family members being paid tens of millions of dollars by foreign agents.
They ignored the tranny shooting up a Christian school then pushed Bellingcat's (CIA's) story about the Mexican nazi shooter.
"would make CNN either negligent or shills."
CNN: "Por que no los dos?"
For Trump supporters, it was a lot of red meat.
Vlad's cock won't suck itself. Fatass Donnie is giving Vlad the sloppiest BJ in history.
The Con Man's comment on Russia/Ukraine was disgusting. Vlad owns the fat pig.
Cry more.
"Vlad owns the fat pig."
It's hilarious how your hyperpartisanship prevents you from realizing how weak and pathetic this makes Biden look.
According to you, the most expensive military on the planet had a Commander in Chief "owned" by Russia from 2017 through 2020. And Putin didn't invade Ukraine during that stretch.
Only after Joe Biden took over did Putin order the invasion. The same Joe Biden who campaigned on the idea that Putin feared him.
Because Vlad loved the job Donnie was doing.
Weakening NATO, disrupting trade and liberal democracy all over the West, letting Iran build up nukes, supporting Assad in Syria, weakening US Oil and Gas industries, letting Vlad trounce all over Europe.
It's like Vlad put his puppet in the White House.
LOL
Most everyone knows that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Hahaha, holy shit, thanks for providing The Bulwark take on this, you hicklib pederast.
Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Did I mention that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies? It’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Shut up, you Tenderloin-wandering faggot. You're shitting up the thread again.
Ironic coming from one of the biggest faggots here.
A pedophile faggot, at that.
What a piece of shit Buttplug is.
keep in mind that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Dear Reason Commenters-
Shrike, aka SPB, is a despicable human being who literally trafficked in Child Porn on this site, as detailed here:
https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836
And as we see above, he is also a despicable human being who thinks it is an insult to call someone gay. So in addition to pedophilia, he has demonstrated himself a homophobe.
Now, in order to allow the free exchange of information, Reason offers a light touch on their moderation. They did what they could to rid us of the pedophile, but SPB is back under a new account, but using the same identity. Since reason cannot ban him, the next best thing is to just shun him.
American conservatives are becoming more European.
You know who else was European?
That's not a good thing...
Of course it's not a good thing. U.S. conservatives better look themselves in the mirror and decide if they want to stand for individualism or if they want to be Spain or Britain or, GOD FORBID, France.
I think they've already decided what they don't want to be - Mexico.
You'd like them to be more like Argentina or Uruguay, right, Witch-Burning Nazi?
What makes you think I'd stop with the witches?
The GOPe just wants to be rich and they can do that easily by being back benchers.
Cleopatra?
White supremacy culture in Egypt.
Cleopatra was sub Sahara African. Didn't you see the Netflix documentary?
Yeah, having a black person plat a Ptolemaic pharaoh, nothing to see here. Wait what, the Ptolemaics were Greek, descendants of one of Alexander's generals? Not African. Hmmm, wonder if people would be okay with a white Afrikaner playing the great Zulu? Of course the actress who played Cleopatra doesn't see the hypocrisy and states that it's impossible to backwash a character but totally possible to white wash a character. Also, just FYI, I despise Ghengis Khan not because John Wayne was white, but because it is by far his worst post war movie ever (some of the stuff he did prewar as a singing cowboy was pretty awful, but awful in the same way as every other singing cowboy movie).
I just saw a website the other day that argues that Greece at it's hight was sub-Saharan African and they were all killed off and replaced by evil white people.
That shit's been around for a while. It's just a variation of a decades-long African-American nationalist cope that their ancestors got their shit pushed in by other African tribes and northern African Berbers.
The funniest part is when actual Sub-Saharan Africans jump into threads and get pissed off at American blacks.
"Leave us the fuck out of your culture wars bullshit"
Yeah I've seen them claim Beethoven and Mozart. Plus several Renaissance artists, Greek Philosophers, the Egyptians (a Semitic people even during ancient Egypt), the Jewish people (the real Hebrews were black) the Persians.
Also Alexander, a Thracian (another well documented Indo-European people's).
Oops he was Macedonian, which were related to the Thracians, I believe (most Greek didn't consider them fully Greek before Alexander).
According to the BBC so is Sophia Western, Anne Boleyn and now Richard III plus Dick3 is also a wymanx.
Considering what a bang up job Richard the third did, isn't making him black a sure sign of racism... Against blacks? Hmmm, name one of the top three worst Kings of the Plantagenet dynasty, and most people would rank Richard the third and John as one and two (the debate would be which was worse) with Edward the second rounding it out. The heir apparent of one of the top three Plantagenet (Edward the third, Henry the second and Edward the 1st, possibly Henry the Vth if we include the Lancaster branch of the family).
Somebody in the bathroom?
Arnold Schwarzenegger?
Stopping corporate fascism is European.
ABBA?
Most American ancestors who wanted nothing to do with the place.
Pepe LePew?
"Tucker Carlson's announcement that he is moving to Twitter isn't getting an enthusiastic reception on Madison Avenue, as many advertisers are already skittish about spending on the Elon Musk-owned social-media platform," notes The Wall Street Journal.
Twitter is DOOMED! All the cool kids are on Mastodon. Musk is the worst business man ever, what a moron.
Honestly, I don't really understand why Donald Trump didn't just start his own Mastodon instance after getting banned from Twitter. It would've been so much easier than building a new platform from the ground up.
Most of the complaints boil down to one underlying thing: CNN simply handing Trump a megaphone to campaign in front of a nationwide audience, for free.
Of course they did. They so desperately wanted Trump to be the GOP candidate in 2016 and they didn't learn anything from that misjudgment of his electability so they're doubling down on it. Besides, Trump's great for ratings. Not like Ron DeSantis who doesn't engage in stream-of-consciousness shit- talking.
Though he does employ a team of social media "influencers" who seem to think emulating the "trust the science, wear the mask, get the jab" style campaigning is the way to go...
"American conservatives are becoming more European. That's not a good thing,"
not seen on Reason: "American progressives are becoming more like the Bolsheviks / CCP. That's not a good thing"
This^.
Reason will criticize the slightest conservative movement, while defending the authoritarian left in the same paragraph. Kinda weird from a libertarian publication.
Link to an example please.
Why? Your disingenuous ass will not read it or reply to it later.
Thought so. You've got nuthin'.
https://reason.com/2023/05/11/cnn-gave-trump-a-megaphone-and-he-used-it-exactly-as-youd-expect/
How many articles do you want mentioning "good intentions" when defending bad policies of the left? One clear one is Veronique blaming the GOP for not cutting the spending enough with no mention of the democrat's plans. J6 coverage. Defense of BLM riots. UNMARKED VANS!!!
For years I rationalized this, first, as the financial-organizational need to stake out their own niche. Later I thought it was that they just assumed the "left" was beyond the pale and so paradoxically beyond reproach — hopeless — while the "right" was amenable to perfection; but this excuse is no longer tenable. For a while I almost fell for the "cocktail party" explanation that was fashionable here for a while — that it was to get along better socially in their milieu — but I never really bought that.
Now...what? That we had a bunch of writers who for decades pretended to be libertarian to stake out that niche, and now have given up? Or writers who are actually libertarian but have sold out to dollar-masters who benefit from some mixture of propaganda that's actually sui generis but mostly aligns far "left" when it comes to current controversies? I sat here agape as writer after writer who just had to know better evinced TDS, but it's way more global than just TDS.
Great, you just sent out the Strawcasmic signal.
Strawcasmic
Excellent
Becoming?
Because Reason isn't a right-wing rag.
Finally Mike admits to a left leaning bias at Reason.
It’s just a collection of links to read over coffee.
calling out the concerning growing authoritarianism of the left in which freedom is openly trampled = "right wing"
Not libertarian, or rational, or just common sense, "right wing"
No, that doesn't equal "right wing".
What does equal "right wing" is exaggerated rhetoric about Democrat's growing authoritarianism coupled with ignoring Republican's growing authoritarianism. It is pure partisan team sports with no geniuine concern for liberty behind it.
Here comes the Liarson Maneuver.
Notice that now Mike is carefully parsing. He has realized his folly, and now he wants to argue a very specific point that was not made. Mike wants you to defend “ignoring republican’s growing authoritarianism”- as near as I can tell this is not an argument you made.
Don’t fall for the trap. He is trying to redirect a complaint about Reason ignoring Democrat Authoritarianism into a standard “which is worse?” argument.
We don’t need to do that. Regardless of what Mike says, it is obvious that Democrat authoritarianism is not exagerated.
59% of Democrats agreed with HOUSE ARREST for people who decline to vaccinate for COVID.
51% approved of confining those un-vaccinated to “designated facilities”.
65% of Democrats believe that the government should do more to combat misinformation *even if that means limiting free speech*
There is no exaggeration here. It is not a “growing” problem. Democrats are unabashedly Authoritarian at this point, in a way that Republicans and Independents are not. And if you go back and read ENB’s review of Biden’s “Soul of America” speech, you will see that in fact she was soft-pedaling this shit. 57% of americans polled felt that Biden’s “Soul of America” speech was a dangerous escalation of conflict in politics, but all ENB could say was that it was boring and forgettable.
https://reason.com/2022/09/02/bidens-presidential-address-was-actually-a-campaign-speech/?comments=true#comments
The criticism, at least as applies to ENB, is straight up correct.
"He has realized his folly, and now he wants to argue a very specific point that was not made."
Every White Mike post ever.
Mike and chemtard always employ this "bof sydez" talking point whenever their lefty boos are being called out.
"exaggerated rhetoric about Democrat’s growing authoritarianism coupled with ignoring Republican’s growing authoritarianism"
Useful idiots under Lenin/Stalin: "How can anyone focus on the starvation, theft of property/goods, and brutal murder of the current regime, when the capitalists are planning to do all kinds of things to us!!"
"Surely, comrades, you do not want Jones back?"
"Even though those numbers are a far cry from the 9.1 percent annual rate posted as recently as last June, it's a worrying sign that inflation seems to have settled into a range that's significantly higher than it had been for decades."
Rig count up! Manufacturing boom! Best economy ever! Praise Biden!
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
America’s Factory Boom Drives Sales Surge for Excavators, Steel and Trucks
New semiconductor and battery factories boost Caterpillar, Nucor, other manufacturers
https://www.wsj.com/articles/americas-factory-boom-drives-sales-surge-for-excavators-steel-and-trucks-a9951bca
Why yes, US manufacturing is back, baby!
First sentence.
Manufacturers of construction equipment, trucks, building supplies and industrial software are still ringing up sales, despite slowdowns in other parts of the U.S. economy.
Was one of those trucks in the article a cherry picker?
There seems to be several fleets of cherry pickers in service.
Always read Buttplug's articles and citations, because he never does. If they don't refute him in the first paragraph they'll do it in the second.
Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Don't forget the spittin tobacco index, inflation is profit, inflation is a jobs growth plan, etc.
The Food and Drug Administration has approved one brand of oral contraception for over-the-counter sale.
Does it negate the effects of beer goggles? The fellas know what I'm talking about.
Only one brand? Lemme guess, Pfizer.
This reminds me of the name of a faucet extensively advertised in the Eighties called Price Pfister.
If that's all you do, I guess Pfisting would be a great birth control method. And if you Pfisted with a Price Pfister, then clean-up would be easy! 🙂
Rep. George Santos (R–N.Y.) was indicted this week on federal charges of wire fraud and lying to Congress.
Trump/Santos 2024!
In poker it is called "going all in".
Also I suspect a phrase used in your kiddy porn.
Your comment does raise the question, though:
Who is Trump’s running mate going to be?
I didn’t word that question as “Who will Trump choose as his running mate?” because he might not have a lot of choices. Who would even want the job after seeing how he treated Mike Pence?
Trump already had a problem toward the end of his administration with not being able to find anyone of quality to work for him. That’s what happens when you badmouth people who work for you and throw them under the bus. You end up having to go with John Bolton because nobody else will return your phone calls.
(Prediction: Some right-leaning commenter here will respond to my comment by talking about how awful Kamala Harris is. Yes, she is, but this is a conversation about Trump's running mate.)
It would be a right-wing grifter such as a Laura Loomer type, whose entire meal ticket rests upon effusive praise of Trump and the whole MAGA movement.
Obese posters should avoid food related euphemisms.
Well, it will almost certainly be a female to shore up his weakest flank. He doesn't need the Fundie-Nut support that Pence gave him anymore. Fundies are among the brain-washed cult.
Kari Lake and Lauren Boebert would be on the list. Not MTG since she doesn't pass the appearance test.
Perhaps Herchel Walker since his skin color and GA would be assets.
Not many regular Cons would want to be the next Paul Ryan - a loser.
Keep in mind that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
He doesn’t need the Fundie-Nut support that Pence gave him anymore. Fundies are among the brain-washed cult.
LOL, Pence was to placate the GOPe, not the Christians. The Christians would have voted for Trump regardless.
"Herchel Walker since his skin color"
Nothing Buttplug hates more than an uppity black. Just the other day he was pushing a Media Matters scam hit on Walker.
“Yes, she is, but this is a conversation about Trump’s running mate."
Ah, Mike is allowed to deny others both-sideism, but he is just fine using it himself. Classic.
Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Rep. George Santos (R–N.Y.)
If that is his real name.
"If that is his real name."
Yeah. Given his track record, even that is suspect.
The mask comes off and it's Al Franken. He's going to squeeze your tits and run.
So he would have us believe.
So Reason is going to blatantly ignore the 20 LLCs paying 9 members of the Biden family from foreign countries Biden was point man for Obama as VP? Santos is the bigger story? The FBI refusing congressional oversight?
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/top-gop-lawmakers-say-fbi-confirmed-existence-document-key-hunter-biden
Or evidence of the CIA coordination to influence an election?
There is no video of cash being handed to Joe so this is nothing.
"There is no video of cash being handed to Joe in a giant envelope that clearly has "bribes" written on it, so this is nothing." - White Mike
"Well, it isn't happening right now: Thursday, May 11th 2023 at 3:50pm EST, so it doesn't matter."
I watched NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt last night to see if they covered this fake scandal.
Negative!
Well, NBC did not cover it so it did not happen.
Makes total sense. Really.
And all the things they did cover actually happened and are 100% true.
We all know that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"I watched NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt last night " How sad.
If joe was taking money I’m sure it would be on his tax return
/some dummy here the other day.
You already know the answer to that just like we all do!
"Fake scandal, HUNTER BIDEN'S PENIS, you''ve got nothing, but what about Trump, blah blah blah blah blah."
-Dipshit Dave Weigel, speaking on behalf of the entire Biden-suppoeting Readon staff
Most of them voted for Biden and will again, assuming he's still alive and gets renominatef. A few of them even admitted i!
assuming he’s still alive
Cite?
Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Doesn't matter if he is alive, just that he gets nominated.
Let's just see if this amounts to anything. The track record for this is zero, remember Bengasi or the Durham investigation, but maybe this time it will be different.
You spent all day yesterday discussing the evidence for the Carrol lawsuit despite the absent of any evidence. Here you hide behind the factual evidence from banking records. Moderate indeed.
Benghazi shows violations of law, namely Hillary not reviewing security requests as required by law. Durham found members of the state lying.
Your entire analysis boils down to "what does government say?"
Wrong both ways.
Explain then. What evidence aside from testimony and hearsay was there for yesterday's discussions. You provided none.
Explain how bank records are not evidence.
Perhaps it's the same way JFree thinks company emails are just a bedtime story.
JesseAz you have still not responded to show you even know what "hearsay" is relax take some time and read a law textbook.
Lol. You were given multiple definitions in those threads dummy. You admitted to not understanding the law or rules of evidence.
Now explain.
You’re the one that does not know what hearsay is you absolute fucking boob.
https://www.wordnik.com/words/hearsay
These are nice definitions, but they don't apply to the Carroll/Trump case. Hearsay rules do allow testimony to support direct testimony and that is what happened in this case.
You are just ignoring what the Durham investigation found.
Steele dossier was BS even to Steele. The FBI did not believe dossier was credible but made little or no attempt to set the record straight to the public.
The story that Trump had questionable connections to a Russian bank was made up by an active FBI agent who will never be held accountable for execpt for losing his job.
The Durham investigation brought to light how much bs the Trump Russian connection was. So naturally you want to ignore it and claim it was a nothingburger.
You're ignoring a long history of wingnut fake scandals from Whitewater to Benghazi to SLOPPY PULLOUT! in Afghanistan.
They were all political bullshit.
That Trump townhall really broke you, more than normal anyway.
Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
I am curious if you even know what the Steele dossier is? Care to explain it?
A collection of baseless claims that the FBI was offering one million dollars if any of the claims could be proven. None of them were.
Or as noted by CNN,
"Today, the dossier is largely seen as an unproven collection of rumors and gossip."
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/11/politics/steele-dossier-fbi-durham-danchenko/index.html
Let me counter with this:
"As a raw intelligence document, the Steele dossier, we believe, holds up well so far. "
https://www.lawfareblog.com/steele-dossier-retrospective
What held up well? Why can you never give specifics? Why use leftist opinion instead?
From 2018 before people were put under oath.
That was a sad, sad attempt. But you tried.
Oh, my apologies, I didn’t realize you were just a parody of a retarded Democrat.
Also, this reference is the Igor Danchenko trial which ended in an acquittal.
Not the answers you expected?
No, as I suspected you don't really know what the Steele dossier is.
The Steele dossier is a series of reports on connections between Donald Trump and Russian operatives. The reports are not considered factual but rather first line information gathering. The kind of gathering that would be normally done. Some information has been verified in the Mueller Report and the Senate's 2019 report on Russian interference in the 2016 election. Information has also been verified by statement by Roger Stone and Paul Manafort. While many things remain unverified that does not mean they are true nor false but rather unverified.
The most controversial reports are that the former President is compromised by his sexual conduct. There is no proof of this, but we did just have a verdict that he committed sexual abuse. So, it remains in the realm of a possibility.
A work of fan fiction your side used to justify tard-raging for four years.
Rep. George Santos (R–N.Y.) was indicted this week on federal charges of wire fraud and lying to Congress.
A lying politician is something we simply cannot abide.
Inflation rose again in April.
Joe's on it.
Right after he deals with washing machines and airline tickets.
The Times article is threaded through with the idea that Scholastic did this in response to the accelerating right-wing campaigns to get certain books removed from school libraries...
If they can't write a REPUBLICANS POUNCE angle then how do you expect them to report any news at all?
Freedom to sexualize children. If parents won't teach them about anal sex schools have to.
But then they won't know how Monkey pox is spread.
Tucker Carlson's announcement that he is moving to Twitter isn't getting an enthusiastic reception on Madison Avenue, as many advertisers are already skittish about spending on the Elon Musk-owned social-media platform...
I will see that when I believe it.
Advertising people hate huge audiences. It is known.
Perhaps it is time for some advertisers to move away from Madison Ave. NYC ain't the country.
Are you saying you believe advertising firms are literally still primarily located on Madison Avenue?
https://www.mosaicapp.com/post/best-marketing-agencies-us-2022
“There are nearly 14,000 marketing and advertising agencies in the US. Cumulatively, they employ close to 200,000 people. Most of these agencies are unknown. They have small teams of 25 or fewer people and generate less than $5 million per year. However, there are some industry giants that are as close to household names as agencies can get. In this article, we’ll take a look at the top marketing agencies in the US.”
The top traditional-style big firm on the list is located in … Paris.
The second has offices in New York (Broadway), Los Angeles, Chicago and Atlanta.
… reception on Madison Avenue,
The Wall Street journal seems to think so.
The Meridian Moron is so fixed on defending his lefty boos with his pedantry that he completely missed the headline.
The third has offices in New York and ... Kansas City.
Shut down all the NYC offices. The expense can certainly not be justified in maintaining them.
Aren’t all of us here supposed to hate Chicago and LA, too?
"Are you saying you believe advertising firms are literally still primarily located on Madison Avenue?"
Welcome to a rare, Thursday morning game, folks. Mike's in rare form today, busting out the Liarson Maneuver for all to see. You can see our breakdown of the Liarson Maneuver at the following link:
https://reason.com/2023/05/07/will-2024-bring-the-return-of-the-neocons/?comments=true#comment-10051072
The TL;DR is that the Maneuver is a tactic Mike loves to engage to derail threads. He focuses on some tiny minutia where he thinks he can score a point, and tries to start a debate about it. This is how he distracts from the larger points being made.
The larger point here is that Advertising Companies may have lost their handle on what Americans really value. Mike's tactic is to argue whether they all still located on Madison Avenue. Now everyone knows that Madison Avenue- in this case- is a metaphor for "Blue Bubble Enclaves", but Mike is bound and determined to pick a fight about nothing...and so he proves to us that in fact the big Ad Agencies are in Paris, New York, Chicago, and Atlanta...you know, blue-bubble enclaves. Notice that even though he may be technically right, it doesn't change the overall argument one bit.
I appreciate this public service announcement.
Not happy to just encroach on Russia... now NATO wants to open offices in Japan to begin to confront China.
https://mises.org/wire/natos-great-new-idea-lets-start-war-china
What good is an army if you aren’t at war?
If only NATO were an acronym for something...
Taiwan petitions to join NATO? That would be fantastic.
What happened to SEATO?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Pretty sure that the largest military powers in NATO, the US, France and the UK already have defense treaties with Japan dating back to their disarmament following World War 2. Not to mention South Korea and Australia.
The rest of NATO can maybe field a division combined at best.
Also, Britain as the third largest is a sad commentary on how well equipped and manned our allies are. The British Army is smaller than our Marine Corp and has only two carriers that can be classed as anything but escort carriers.
The British Army is about the same size as our Coast Guard, which is an auxillary force, that isn't considered a military force except during time of war, the same as our Merchant Marines.
Joining Japan in a defensive engagement would not trigger the conditions of the other NATO allies to engage as the position would not be defensive to the NATO member. Putting a NATO office there...
"and insulted the woman he was just found guilty of sexually abusing"
Somebody doesn't know the difference between a civil trial and a criminal trial. SMDH.
A criminal trial would require a shred of evidence. Well, maybe not in New York.
Beyond reasonable doubt, vs preponderance.
Civil trials are easier to win.
And of course, civil trials find you liable of damages. Not guilty of a crime.
Defamation, wasn't it?
Wasn't the trial about him defaming her by denying he lied about raping her? How are you guilty of that when a jury says it wasn't rape either?
If ENB can't commit government protected (sponsored?) defamation, what's the point of waking up every day?
From it is a conspiracy that the left wants to ban gas stoves to 11 state AGs demanding feds ban gas stoves.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/05/11-state-attorney-generals-including-d-c-want-federal-action-on-gas-stoves/
Cultists.
You know damn well there will be a state that bans beef pretty soon. This will open the gate for states banning other climate driven foods, demanding the feds implement the same bans, until it becomes Soviet style starvation.
This is democracy, kids.
CA has started this process by regulatory demands on how animals must be raised, fed, housed, etc. Especially with regard to pork.
I am curious as to what the purpose of the interstate commerce clause is if this does not cause ANY questions in regards to it to be raised?
To stop interstate gun sales?
Also, there were 60-100 million buffalo in the US before humans. Somehow all those cows did not contribute to global warming, nor did the aurochs in Europe.
Were there before humans? I've read some things that the Indians did a lot to modify the prairie ecology, largely using fire, to cultivate large bison herds.
Not that it isn't a pointless thing to worry about in terms of the environment, but at least some of the supposed problem with cattle is that they are eating more grain and less grass which causes more methane to be produced.
Wow, there are a lot of cattle. Over 100 million in the US now. Accordong to wikipedia it's probably the animal species with the larges biomass in the world.
You know damn well there will be a state that bans beef pretty soon.
Not gonna happen.
This is democracy, kids.
So, you are making up an unlikely hypothetical scenario and then using the verb, “is”, as if it is something that actually happened. I see this a lot with the right-leaning comments here and their continual pushing of their victimhood narrative: make up some hypothetical grievance and then talk about it as if it has actually occurred.
Not gonna happen.
Cite?
It starts in small steps.
https://www.onegreenplanet.org/environment/petition-urge-university-california-ban-beef/
So, you are making up an unlikely hypothetical scenario...
See gas stove bans. Or forced jabs. Or mutilating children. Or anything else you declare "not gonna happen". The opposite is always true.
You progs are predictable.
Thanks for putting words in my mouth.
I never said there would never be gas stove bans. We have reason to believe there will be.
Some people were required to get vaccinations to keep their jobs or travel, so we know that happened, too.
Forced mutilation of children in our future. Not likely.
"Thanks for putting words in my mouth."
He didn't, but you have, what? seven, eight times in this this thread already.
Forced mutilation of children in our future. Not likely.
So, you now freely admit the mutilation is happening, you are just doubtful that it will ever be forced on kids?
That is what it looks like when someone puts words in your mouth, asshat. Sarc does it every time he posts one of his "this is how the goose-stepping conservatives in my Trumptator fan-fiction behave" comments, so you should recognize it.
I think the media companies are saving time/resources by making the turnaround from 'conspiracy' to 'ya so what' pretty short. Not a lot of grey transition area in between, just an about face
Saves them a lot of airtime for moderna/pfizer ads
It also shows the lefts urgency to federalize all policy since they control less than half the states.
Why do Moderna and Pfizer need to advertise if, as anti-vaxxers keep saying, they have captured the Federal government and are raking in the government dollars?
You really are dumb aren't you.
https://www.statista.com/chart/24829/net-income-profit-pharma-companies/
Their profits are already dropping.
They need to have people keep taking their shots and pills so the government keeps paying for them. Not too hard to understand.
Liarson Maneuver Part Deux-
This was a sarcastic joke, but Mike wants to get people replying to his troll nonsense. Don't fall for the trap.
The whole "health hazards" line is such a blatant lie that I'm surprised their collective pants didn't burst into flames right there.
This was always about ending natural gas extraction to try and get everything on electricity in order to fluff their "clean energy" investments.
The entire governing class deserves to be pushed through a woodchipper, and that goes double for the bureaucrats and their fascist NGO partners.
The Food and Drug Administration has approved one brand of oral contraception for over-the-counter sale.
Which brand? Pfizer by any chance?
“She has no interest in dating him”: Tom Cruise Might Face Humiliation After Reports of Him Pursuing Shakira After Her Recent Breakup
https://fandomwire.com/she-has-no-interest-in-dating-him-tom-cruise-might-face-humiliation-after-reports-of-him-pursuing-shakira-after-her-recent-breakup/
GRAB HER BY THE PUSSY, TOMMY! HIPS DON'T LIE !! YOU'RE A STAR!
Plus, Tom is gay.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Meanwhile, Bobby De Niro just became the father of a seventh offspring at 79 years old.
Oh, and speaking of age. Why hasn’t tReason covered the return of Diane Feinstein (or maybe just her propped-up corpse?) to the Senate?
WTF is wrong with you?
Holy shit, they rolled her into the Senate in a wheel chair and she looked like a corpse.
I got this 'Psycho' vibe seeing that picture. Hitchcock stuff.
We all know that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Won't be surprising if she up and dies in the middle of a committee meeting.
We may have a Weekend at Bernie's scenario.
Your creepy Feinstein comments are starting to have the save vibe as when you got off on protesters getting shot with rubber bullets. Heaven forbid one of your crowd falls behind the herd.
"Tucker Carlson's announcement that he is moving to Twitter isn't getting an enthusiastic reception on Madison Avenue, as many advertisers are already skittish about spending on the Elon Musk-owned social-media platform," notes The Wall Street Journal.
Well, I don’t have a subscription and this is an idea that seriously needs a little bit of elaboration. Is it that Twitter conversion rates are terrible? But surely you can sell direct advertising through Tucker himself, and his audience is pretty significant.
"CIA 'may have assisted in obtaining signatories' for letter discrediting Hunter Biden laptop: House GOP report"
Did I miss coverage of this? Ive been away for a couple days.
There is pretty clear proof now that the CIA went out of their way to make this story 'russian disinfo' to swing the election.
Trump came prepared for some of the questions but not this one. He should have cited the more than a dozen cases of illegal election changes ruled on by courts then highlighted the states that refused cases judicially.
Whoops. Mean for below.
Mike Parsons: One-sided partisan Congressional committee reports and NY Times articles citing anonymous sources claiming Trump did something bad? Give me a break!
Also Mike Parsons: One sided partisan Congressional committee reports and Fox News articles citing anonymous sources claiming Democrats did something bad? That's real serious proof!
Jeff… they used bank records. Not anonymous sources retard. Per Buden corruption.
They have testimony and emails for laptop letter.
Full retarding a bit early this morning no?
This, mind you, is NOT election interference.
Because FYTW.
No, it wasn't. It was partisan spinning.
Election interference would be messing with polling places or ballots, or something along those lines.
Facebook ads have been called "election interference" for 7 years.
I am using the vernacular as it is currently used.
This was actually more of a coup.
Facebook ads have been called “election interference” for 7 years.
And whoever used that rhetoric was wrong. So, you're into perpetuating it?
Wouldn't that be the Muller Report?
What about twitter memes. You can go to jail for those. I know you might of missed all the coverage of it here at Reason. But the other media outlets were ok with using that rhetoric
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/courts/twitter-influencer-guilty-election-interference-memes
Mike, don't get me wrong. I agree that the Facebook ads Russians paid for that was called election interference was not really election interference. I don't think it rose to the level of influence. But the Muller report disagrees. And there was much hash about it being interference from anti-Trump crowd.
It largely formed the entire government action on Misinformation.
But Mike actually agrees with that development so he will ignore it.
It wasn't even that really. It was 50+ people expressing their opinion in an op-ed. They even qualified their statement that they didn't have first-hand knowledge of what was on the laptop hard drive.
All of this nonsense about That Letter is just special pleading from Team Red. They don't like it that some people who had prestigious credentials in the area of national security expressed an opinion that *may have* helped their opponent, so they are trying to invent ways how the letter itself was improper or corrupt.
Here's the latest one: the CIA may have had a hand in getting people to sign it! Oh no! Boy, that sure sounds like That Letter isn't just the opinions of some people but instead state-directed propaganda! (And since Trump was in charge at the time, obviously, it was Deep State(tm) Directed Propaganda). But if you actually read the article (which I have helpfully linked, but Mike Parsons did not - ask yourself why he would refuse to link the article - hint it's because he is not interested in you discovering the truth, he wants you to believe his lies and narratives instead)
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/cia-may-have-assisted-in-obtaining-signatories-for-letter-discrediting-hunter-biden-laptop-house-gop-report
the "bombshell" involvement of the CIA *allegedly* consists of:
"As he recounted, a CIA employee informed him about the statement, the CIA employee read the text of the statement to him, and the CIA employee asked Cariens if he would like to join," the report states.
Mind you, this is an *anonymous* CIA employee. So, let's use the Team Red standard that they applied back in 2016-2020, which is: whenever a news article cites an anonymous source to make damaging allegations against someone, there is a high probability that the anonymous source is completely made up. Thus, based on this standard, there is a high probability that this "anonymous CIA employee" is a complete fiction invented by Republicans in order to spread dirt on their opponents.
And EVEN IF this scenario actually took place, it was one staffer in one department of the CIA asking if he would sign the letter. He's not writing the letter, he's not forcing people to sign the letter, and it is hardly the same as the weight of the entire CIA being used to create state-directed propaganda to tilt the scales on behalf of Biden. This guy may have broken the rules, even maybe broken the law, I don't know, and if that happened, he should be disciplined for it, but what he *actually* did should be understood and put into perspective and not blown out of proportion for purposes of politics or tribal point scoring.
""It wasn’t even that really. It was 50+ people expressing their opinion in an op-ed. They even qualified their statement that they didn’t have first-hand knowledge of what was on the laptop hard drive.""
That's not the way it was played in the media. There are still people who think the Hunter laptop is part of a Russian op. You can bet the intel guys knew exactly how that letter would be portrayed in the media. That's why they added the plausible deniability statement of saying there was no evidence.
That’s not the way it was played in the media.
So? Whose fault is that? If they write a letter stating their expert opinion but with the appropriate caveats and qualifying statements, and the media only report the opinion part but neglect the caveats, is that the fault of the letter authors or the media?
You can bet the intel guys knew exactly how that letter would be portrayed in the media. That’s why they added the plausible deniability statement of saying there was no evidence.
Again, even still - so what? They presented their arguments and made their case. I have no doubt that some of them wrote and/or signed the letter primarily because they wanted Biden to win. Nevertheless the arguments that they presented stand on their own merits (or lack thereof) and we are all free to judge them on those terms.
Is it your contention that they should not have been permitted to express their opinion? Once a person becomes an intelligence agency executive, that person loses free speech rights to express an opinion in public? What do you think should be the standard here?
So? Whose fault is that? If they write a letter stating their expert opinion but with the appropriate caveats and qualifying statements, and the media only report the opinion part but neglect the caveats, is that the fault of the letter authors or the media?
chemtard acts like this reporting narrative was done in a vacuum.
Is it your contention that they should not have been permitted to express their opinion? Once a person becomes an intelligence agency executive, that person loses free speech rights to express an opinion in public? What do you think should be the standard here?
chemtard deflects with strawmen.
Huh, I figured you of all people here would have an issue with the intel folks being part of a scam like that.
If all 51 could not forecast how the media was going to play it says something very sad about their intel capabilities.
Chemjeff: CIA spooks on hunter laptop: “opinion”!
Trump on 2020 election: “LIE!” Not just a lie but “the big lie!” (Tm)
God damn, you suck dude.
The released emails literally say to help Joe bidens campaign. It wasn't actually based on any intelligence but done to butress a debate question. What a shit weasel you are.
^This,
"...Trump lied about the 2020 election and about classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago, told the female journalist interviewing him that she was "nasty," and insulted the woman he was just found guilty of sexually abusing..."
Reason gives TDS-addled lying shit-piles a megaphone, and they use it exactly as you'd expect.
Stuff your TDS up your ass so your head has some company, and then make your family proud: Fuck off and die, ENB.
Trump came prepared for some of the questions but not this one. He should have cited the more than a dozen cases of illegal election changes ruled on by courts then highlighted the states that refused cases judicially.
He had to know it was one 'when did you stop beating your wife?' question after the other. Didn't watch it (CNN? Are you kidding?), but it seems he did as well as could be expected.
TDS-addles shits like ENB and turd are gonna pick what cherries they can; that's also expected of TDS-addled shits.
He absolutely crushed it. CNN followed the script to the letter. They pushed and pushed and pushed and went way too far, leaving Trump looking like not just a winner, but the guy who stayed calm and decint in the face of what was actually quite nasty attacks.
She did her master's bidding and tried desperately to push the talking points. She lost on every attempt.
They cannot learn, apparently.
The way you beat someone who is wrong, stupid or evil is to just let them talk. Ask simple questions and give them as much rope as they want.
By attempting to bulky Trump, they just make him look all the stronger. It was dumb the first time.... But 7 years later? Really? How dumb are these people?
Trump's never been that deep into policy stuff like that. I doubt he's even aware of that many changes, he just knows in a general sense that stuff like that happened.
he just knows in a general sense that stuff like that happened.
I have a phrase I like to repeat: "there is no misinformation, just information and those too lazy or stupid to verify it." Trump is clearly not stupid, but he is lazy, which is why it is so easy for the media to accuse him of lying even in instances where he is telling the truth. They don't have to even have to bother verifying themselves, they just point and say "he didn't prove that!" and continue in their narrative.
He's seriously one of the laziest elites I've ever seen, at least when it comes to the political arena.
If a real journalist ever had a chance to interview Trump, a good question would be something along the lines of "You've said that the 2020 election was rigged, so how do you expect to stop the same thing from happening in 2024?"
ENB is a real woman - not like the fags and trannies you party with in SF, Sevo.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
You'd actually know what a real woman was if you weren't stalking elementary school playgrounds, you hicklib pederast.
It's more amusing that his kiddy-porn links are reported to feature little boys. And then notice his fixation 'fags' in his (oh, so clever) 'insults'.
If he weren't such a despicable pile of shit, you might be embarrassed for him.
Don't forget, turd lies. It's what turd does.
Your despicable homophobia is exactly what I expect from a conservative libertarian pedophile.
The entire premise of the FDA is that the Federal government has the responsibility to protect the public against risk from pharmaceuticals. First of all, the FDA is not good at it. Second, the premise is wrong, the FDA is unconstitutional. The least bad entity – the entity with the most to lose by producing and selling dangerous substances – to decide safety and effectiveness is the pharmaceutical company itself. The least bad entity to decide whether to use a substance is the consumer in consultation with a pharmacist or a trained and experienced health care professional. FDA regulations distort these processes, and not for the better. If a producer fails to adequately test their product and it does harm, the culprits can be sued or punished criminally they same way any other miscreant is punished under the law. And if a consumer makes an informed decision and it turns out badly, that’s life. And if a health care professional gives bad advice to a patient, they can be sued as well. What does the FDA add to the process besides sending billions of dollars in funding to incompetent, fraudulent researchers in India to test hapless poor people there instead of risking American rats?
It's not just Congress and FDA; every state has a pharmacy law that says the same thing: that you need permission to market a drug, either from the state pharmacy board or FDA. If FDA disappeared, you'd just have 50 state FDAs demanding the same thing.
Was there any way last night’s televised town hall with former President Donald Trump wasn’t going to turn into one long, free advertisement for his 2024 campaign?
I'm not sure what this means...
I assumed the other way: Was there any way last night's televised town hall with former President Donald Trump wasn't going to turn into one long, free advertisement for CNN?
Cue Jake Gyllenhall: ijustcantquityou.gif.
https://twitter.com/bernard_lane/status/1656629378737111041?s=46&t=0E3j5st2xxnFRnT_IkYSIQ
“ With trans rights, the merger of Big Pharma & left-wing activism has become fully autonomous, creating a new minority with a lifelong medical condition in need of ongoing interventions supplied by some of the wealthiest & most powerful oligopolies…”
https://twitter.com/billboardchris/status/1656484086213664770?s=46&t=0E3j5st2xxnFRnT_IkYSIQ
World ‘experts’ in trans health now say NON-VERBAL AUTISTIC CHILDREN can consent to a sex change.
They say these kids can communicate their transgender identities through drawing.
I am not making this up.
No child left behind.
Serious question. How do people like Ehrensaft have a voice other than through a conspiracy to use cultural Marxism to incite revolution? To offer those behaviors as examples of "gender messages" is not stupidity or indifference. It is a conscious attribution of insane principles with the deliberate intent to foment policies that will separate children from families.
Oh, it gets even better:
Diane Eherensaft was one of the leading propagandists of the Satanic daycare sexual abuse panic in the early 90s that destroyed the lives of dozens of innocent people. She's a legitimately demonic person who stokes these narratives for socio-political clout, and leaves nothing but destruction in her wake, pushing fake medical bullshit for 30 years now.
BTW, they're targeting autistic people in particular because autists a lot more susceptible to being convinced that the reason they feel so out of place in society is because they're actually the opposite sex. It's not an accident that a lot of the current tranny subculture was built in online Tumblr forums for autistic people.
It is amusing how quickly Team Red has glommed on to the EvUl PrOfIt MoTiVe for Big Pharma now. You'd think they were reading from an Obama campaign speech from 2008.
Oh, I'm sorry --- did not know conservatives were unaware of the profit motive, in spite of it being the driving motivation in Adam Smith's theories.
NOT.
A.
LEFTIST!
The only leftists around here are people like you and your tribe who are now wholly embracing the EVIL part of the profit motive when it comes to Big Pharma and, say, COVID vaccines or transgender therapies.
What is your principled argument against government-run health care now?
- "Health care should be run by doctors, not by government bureaucrats" - false, your team is totally fine with health care being run by government bureaucrats if it is health care that you disapprove of
- "If health care is run by the government, it would be more expensive" - that's true, but again your team is now okay with the idea that some health care profits are EVIL and illegitimate and should be regulated by the government. So your team is now totally fine with the government driving up health care costs via regulation.
If I put a gun to your head and forced you to choose, who should be in charge of health care in this country, Trump or the AMA, I am willing to bet you would vote for Trump.
Do you ever feel the least bit of guilt for spouting propaganda?
If I put a gun to your head and forced you to choose
LOL, and chemtard says that Nardz has violent fantasies.
He also presents exactly 2 choices. Where are White Mike and Sarcasmic to point out that that particular binary is not even remotely reasonable?
The only leftists around here are people like you and your tribe who are now wholly embracing the EVIL part of the profit motive when it comes to Big Pharma and, say, COVID vaccines or transgender therapies.
chemtard radical deathfat offers up this red herring because he supports child genital mutilation.
He not only supports it, he thinks that kids should be taught that it is a perfectly acceptable choice in public classrooms, because where else are they going to learn about it with conservatives making it so difficult for drag queens to parade in front of kids at public libraries.
Correction: I don't support using government force to ban transgender health care. You do.
transgender health care
How can you write those words and expect anyone to take you seriously? That is not a rhetorical question.
What about government force to ban child abuse, sexual or merely phsical?
Correction: I don’t support using government force to ban transgender health care. You do.
Correction. I don't support the government preventing mentally ill adults from mutilating their bodies. You support children having their genitals mutilated in the service of a rad-left ideology and the government using force to prevent parents from resisting such procedures.
Propagandizing child sexual mutilation is not "healthcare," no matter how much you and your evil fellow ideologues want to spin it.
You support children having their genitals mutilated in the service of a rad-left ideology and the government using force to prevent parents from resisting such procedures.
That's a lie.
Once again, I don't support using government force to ban such medically valid procedures whether they are on a teenager or on an adult. The decision to get that procedure should be between the doctor and the patient, and in the case of a minor, also between the patient's parents. So I absolutely support parental consent.
You are not smart enough to be able to understand the medical conditions of every single child out there and it is cruel for you to ban valid medical procedures to try to cure their suffering because *you* find it distasteful.
Once again, I don’t support using government force to ban such medically valid procedures whether they are on a teenager or on an adult.
There's nothing medically valid about how they are being used.
You are not smart enough to be able to understand the medical conditions of every single child out there and it is cruel for you to ban valid medical procedures to try to cure their suffering because *you* find it distasteful.
You are not smart enough to think that indulging in this kind of euphemistic argumentaton is in any way convincing. That you think cutting off children's sexual organs and pumping them full of opposite sex hormones and puberty blockers as a mental health treatment is a "valid medical procedure" simply demonstrates what an evil fuck you and your side are.
Again the leftist defending lefty doesn’t understand the big pharmaceutical profits in this case were from government power and not the markets.
Because jeff has to defend the left at all costs with lies and misdirection.
Obama blamed market profit. Jeff defends government sourced profit.
If the AMA is on-board with sexual transitioning of children, then the organization is morally repugnant. Children should be encouraged to celebrate the body they have, not to employ irreversible medical treatments in pursuit of some other body they imagine they might be more comfortable in. The Hippocratic oath demands such a position.
Transsexuality is a mental illness. Anyone can be who they know they are and love who they choose to love without mutilating their body. If a person chooses to do so once they reach adulthood, they can do so at their own risk and expense. But it should be perfectly OK for the rest of us to be horrified and even disgusted by the prospect of self-mutilation in the pursuit of fantasy.
Careful...someone here might accuse you of kiddy diddling.
some health care profits are EVIL and illegitimate and should be regulated by the government
Who is saying that? I'm mostly seeing people saying that the government involvement in the generation of these profits is the problem.
Come on, man. Saying that certain things should not be done to children is not "government running healthcare". It is a regulation of healthcare, and I'd be happier if that wasn't necessary. But that's not what people mean when they say "government run healthcare".
chemtard radical deathfat wants you to believe that corporations or the medical industry don’t respond to incentives. It's not like one of Vanderbilt's doctors spilled the beans on how much of a money-spinner tranny medical procedures are for their hospital or anything, although their motivation is as much ideological as it is financial.
That they make a shit-ton of money off these people for the rest of their lives is certainly a nice bonus.
WOLF @444XXXXXXX444 12h “The prevailing ‘treatment’ method in the medical industry is to treat mental health issues in children with mind-altering pharmaceutical drugs (many with nasty side effects). Now it appears they’ve added even more medically unnecessary drugs, and surgeries into the mix.”
This isn’t inaccurate. Kids, particularly boys, were being put on psychotropic drugs for all sorts of supposed behavioral issues going back to at least the 90s. Nice boon for the drug companies pushing them to doctors, as opposed to simply finding more productive ways for these kids to direct their excess energy. That involves real work and parental involvement, and it's so much easier to tell people, "here, take this pill and everything will get better." Fucking Huxleyite approaches to social control.
Fucking Huxleyite approaches to social control.
Between pharmacology, social media and the rise of cultural Marxism, they have almost completely eliminated the need for a police state. ENB is certainly on board as she demonstrated by siccing the Twitterati on the sandwich guy instead of educating or ignoring him.
Between pharmacology, social media and the rise of cultural Marxism, they have almost completely eliminated the need for a police state.
At this point, I suspect this is what the push for drug injection sites and full-blown legalization are for. And based on what I've seen in Denver since weed was legalized, I highly suspect there will be some unforeseen consequences to such efforts.
And when did the school shooting 'epidemic' come to be?
Could very well just be correlation, but if memory serves a lot of school shooting monsters were on anti-psychotic meds at the very least.
Probably not a sole cause of what's been happening, but likely a contributing factor that gets brushed under the rug for some reason...
See there you go, modern Team Red thinking in a nutshell. Doctors and hospitals don't have patients' best interests in mind, all they care about is making money.
It’s not like one of Vanderbilt’s doctors spilled the beans on how much of a money-spinner tranny medical procedures are for their hospital or anything, although their motivation is as much ideological as it is financial.
Okay, now keep going.
https://www.hospitals-management.com/articles/high-margin-medical-procedures
Botulinum toxin injections are hugely profitable as patients have to come back for follow-up sessions every few months.
Heart surgery is a very expensive but also at the same time a lucrative operation. In fact, the more complex the surgery, the higher the profit, it seems:
Weight loss surgery is performed in high numbers in countries such as the US, UK and Australia, where obesity numbers have been rising consistently over the past three decades. In the UK alone, almost two-thirds of the population is medically considered either overweight or obese. There is little wonder that the gastric bypass and other weight loss surgeries are in such high demand, with very profitable margins for the hospitals.
The cost of fertility treatments is very high, in medical practices all around the globe. In Canada, patients can easily have to fork out up to $10,000 per cycle for in vitro fertilization treatments. Demand for fertility treatments is growing steadily in countries where parents opt to have a child later in life.
Pure goalpost shifting. Not even an attempt to make a point. I could tell who posted this without the header.
There is no point in arguing with jeffy. He deserves nothing but scorn and derision for all his revisionist facts and history.
That chemtard equates child sexual mutilation with these procedures shows just how far he'll go to defend the interests of his lefty boos.
Anyone who supports children getting this type of radical reconstructive surgery and injections of puberty blockers and hormones in order to deny normal biological reality is evil, plain and simple. That's why they screech about "trans genocide"--the only way they can reproduce is to brainwash your kids into thinking they're transgender too, and to brainwash their friends into thinking it as well. Preventing them from doing so is therefore "killing them."
Scorn is the least of what they deserve.
Anyone who supports using state violence to prevent kids who are suffering from getting valid medical treatment is a monster. You WANT kids to suffer at the altar of your morality. YOU find it icky therefore THEY must suffer. It is disgusting.
And the difference between you and me is, I am simply opposing the use of state violence against these people. I have never supported gender reassignment surgery on teenagers as a general rule. If I had a child who claimed to be transgender, I would not support surgery for my child. But I would want that to be *MY DECISION*, not the GOVERNMENT'S decision.
You're the authoritarian monster drinking the tears of suffering children.
Anyone who supports using state violence to prevent kids who are suffering from getting valid medical treatment is a monster.
It's no more a valid medical treatment than thalidomyde was.
You WANT kids to suffer at the altar of your morality. YOU find it icky therefore THEY must suffer. It is disgusting.
You want kids to get their genitals mutilated so you can feel virtuous for being on the "right side of history." It's disgusting.
And the difference between you and me is, I am simply opposing the use of state violence against these people.
Acknowledging and accepting biological reality is not violence.
You’re the authoritarian monster drinking the tears of suffering children.
You're the authoritarian monster using children as a shield for your degeneracy.
I would not support surgery for my child. But I would want that to be *MY DECISION*, not the GOVERNMENT’S decision.
That sounds very "libertarian-y" but is not actually a valid position if you have any understanding of how things actually work. It wouldn't be your decision. It would be the decision of a school counselor and administrators who will keep it secret from you and then have your child taken away if you object. That is the inevitable conclusion of the way things are progressing unless people step up and vehemently oppose it. It is already happening in Progressive enclaves like San Francisco.
It could also be that you do understand and you are a statist posing as a faux-libertarian. Which is it?
You mean because government money and policy was the source of said profit? You really are dumb jeff.
Uh, when those profits are coming from direct government payments, it's really not hard to see why libertarians and fiscal conservatives might have an issue. I don't think anyone is saying that the profit motive itself is evil.
American conservatives are becoming more European. That's not a good thing, suggests Francis Fukuyama at Persuasion:
Anything Fukuyama states at this point should be summarily ignored. The man's probably responsible for more of the western world's dumb policy decisions over the last generation than any other intellectual walking.
Wait, so now American conservatives are showering once a week, wearing black turtlenecks, berets, and chain smoking?
"Zut alors" - every MAGA communist
Once they get Trump into a striped shirt and safely contained within four invisible walls, the illusion will be complete.
Don't forget the mass purchases of espresso machines.
What a passage like this reveals is just how much the elite class views Goldwater/Reagan conservatism as a jobber ideology whose ideas about minimal government activity meant to be exploited to advance leftist politics. That’s why any sort of pushback to leftism is always framed as a violation of “small government principles” to try and cow conservatives into abandoning their resistance.
It’s pretty effective, too, when you read blogs like Patterico’s or The Dispatch hee-haws, who are CONSTANTLY complaining when the right won’t lay down and let the left steamroll their social agenda over the country.
"That’s why any sort of pushback to leftism is always framed as a violation of “small government principles” to try and cow conservatives into abandoning their resistance."
How many times have we seen this from various writers and commenters here. The left can punch you in the face endlessly, but the second anyone thinks about fighting back its all of a sudden unbecoming, republicans 'pouncing', republicans abandoning their principles, etc.
The only options to these people seem to be either help the left, or STFU while the left buttfucks you, without any other option allowable.
The only options to these people seem to be either help the left, or STFU while the left buttfucks you, without any other option allowable.
“Do it to Julia!”
That's how they win.
What about Republicans act like adults, stop with the attack politics and craziness, stop with the whining and victimhood narrative, engage in serious debate about important topics. They could try that.
You'd still whine like a bitch at any pushback, so stop with the kayfabe.
Mean tweets justify defending groomers!
Yes we know. True conservatism is having a strong authoritarian government forcing socially conservative moral values down everybody's throats whether they like it or not.
Man you went above and beyond retard this morning jeff.
Jeff should’ve stayed in hibernation with his trunk bear.
Leave your child mutilation fetish out of this, fat boy.
Also, if conservatism is strictly about fiscal issues, it's not "conservative", it's simply a group of economists arguing that their blinkered view of society is the sole way in which it functions.
Yes we know, authoritarian asshat. Conservatism means using the state to impose strong moral values on everyone.
Yes we know, marxist shitheel. Conservatism means being a jobber to the left.
Yes, over their lederhosen and with their wooden shoes on while they stomp grapes. But they do take everything off to go to the beach or roll in the snow.
"Trump lied about the 2020 election"
How the fuck would you know, ENB? You can say you disbelieve him, but unless there was an actual audit you don't know that.
"and about classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago"
Again, how the fuck would you know, ENB? He was still president when he took those copies, with the power to declassify anything, and chances are extremely high that they were related to the Crossfire Hurricane documents he had ordered declassified but so far the DOJ and FBI have insubordinately refused... Despite a presidential order and a court order.
"told the female journalist interviewing him that she was "nasty," and insulted the woman he was just found guilty of sexually abusing ("what kind of a woman meets somebody and brings them up and within minutes you're playing hanky-panky in a dressing room?") while insisting he's never met her."
He wasn't found "guilty" he was found financially liable. Big difference. And now you're the one lying to us by inferring that criticizing her stupid story is an admission of guilt.
This is hackery, not journalism. You're a disgusting, dishonest hack, Elizabeth Brown.
I also find it odd that he owned buildings really, really close to that store. If he wanted fuck a hag, he'd go there. And nobody else saw him there, in spite of him being rather famous back then too?
No presumptions at all in those arguments.
If he wanted to fuck a hag, he had places he owned to do it at. That store was hardly necessary.
Odd that nobody remembers seeing him except her. He was quite well-known.
These are simple statements of fact.
These are simple statements of fact.
Only that he owned buildings nearby. The rest of what you said isn't fact at all, but only your speculation.
You really are a weasely sealioning piece of shit, Mike. Probability is a thing.
"...He wasn’t found “guilty” he was found financially liable. Big difference..."
This is "Trump Justice"; being proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt is the burden of the prosecutor for most everyone else. Here, Trump carries the burden of proving his innocence.
"...This is hackery, not journalism. You’re a disgusting, dishonest hack, Elizabeth Brown."
These are the scribblings of a TDS-addled pile of shit.
These are the scribblings of a TDS-addled pile of shit.
Yeah, it's not even very good hackery. Just batshit insanity. By ENB's own narrative, if someone accused her beard of raping them 30 yrs. ago, it would be between utterly contemptible and logically incomprehensible for them to consider the plaintiff "nasty" while simultaneously asserting that they've never met (with the rather explicit implication being that the rape, which was decided to be founded, never took place).
It's not just the usual "wet roads cause rain" hackery but "wet roads cause rain and anyone who doesn't agree is an anti-meteorologist who hates women" hackery. I'd say, 'Everyone is dumber for having read what she wrote. I award her no points and may God have mercy on her soul.', but she's doing it on purpose and should be penalized and, by her own tenuous precepts, granting mercy is uncouth and misogynist. So, I guess, 'Eat a bullet and go to hell.', is the response she's looking for.
unless there was an actual audit you don’t know that.
You also need to show he didn't believe what he said to be true to show it is a lie.
Yup. And I think reflexively chanting “big lie!” in unison with nary an acknowledgment that opinions may vary, is telling.
I can think of a way that has a chance to end the Ukraine war in 24 hours: announce that the US is withdrawing from NATO.
Tucker Carlson’s announcement that he is moving to Twitter isn’t getting an enthusiastic reception on Madison Avenue, as many advertisers are already skittish about spending on the Elon Musk-owned social-media platform…
Gosh, as I have said many times. Twitter and other social media platforms ultimately have to please their advertisers, who are their true customers.
Advertising people hate large audiences?
The WSJ article is written to discourage woke advertisers from spending money on Twitter.
Like polls are designed to discourage voters from getting off their asses and actually vote.
Don't fall for propaganda.
Are you now putting the Wall Street Journal on a list of liberal media?
Are you reading and commenting about my statement with your leftist bias?
Not possible, since I don’t have a leftist bias. I am reading and commenting on your comments as a libertarian independent.
Ooh, nice one! He gets $0.50 from the Koch Foundation for that.
That is the unambiguous point of the article. If you cannot see that, I need to put you in touch with a bridge salesman. My commission would be epic.
Ever heard of fiduciary duties, Mike?
social media platforms ultimately have to please their advertisers, who are their true customers
That is regurgitated Marxist bullshit. The users of social media are the primary customers. Users join social media sites today just like young people in the 80s gathered at malls. It would be idiotic to say that the stores are the "true customers" of the mall. Poor critical thinking skills like yours, placing effect before cause, are what caused the ridiculous dotcom bubble.
Garsh, as people have pointed out numerous times, those advertisers were being pressured by NGOs- some funded by the US Government- to cancel their relationship with "The Wrong Types".
One would think that Mike would be the slightest bit troubled by the fact that advertisers, and these media companies, were all being fed a false reality fabricated by activists and in some part by the federal government. But for some reason, Mike can't quite bring himself to care. Because everyone knows "libertarian independents" have no qualms with federal propaganda.
Gosh.
Gosh, as I have said many times. Mike is here to sow chaos, and deflect for the left. He has said so many different things that I doubt he can remember straight. That is why in one thread he will be spreading the Rolling Stone Ivermectin hoax, and a mere two days later he will be claiming that he doesn't trust Rolling Stone for substantive news.
He is a straight up liar.
https://reason.com/2021/09/09/california-is-set-to-outlaw-unannounced-condom-removal/?comments=true#comment-9091773
https://twitter.com/jerylbier/status/1656669291281027083?s=46&t=0E3j5st2xxnFRnT_IkYSIQ
"Homeless man charged with hate crimes for defecating on two LGBTQ+ Pride flags: NYPD"
"Barroll said that hate crimes detectives worked tirelessly to track Innocent down."
"hate crimes detectives"!
""“hate crimes detectives”!""
Law and Order needs another spinoff.
Street shitting hobos are A-okay with the wokesters until blasphemy is involved.
He should have stuck a crucifix in a jar of piss instead. He could have got an arts grant.
The old trope of "when fascism comes to America, it will be draped in an American flag and carrying a bible" needs some updating.
Among the elites and pop culture, you would get showered with praise for shitting on either.
Maybe "draped in a pride/tranny flag, and carrying a BLM sign" should be the new standard. Because it seems like we are about one step away from considering it a hate crime if you wash off BLM or pride graffiti.
Seems like the old standard of "draped in an American flag and carrying a bible" still applies, too. Have you seen the Trump-fellating meme-fest on TRUTH Social?
And not one of their ideas are as fascist as most of yours, Mike.
Serious question, have you reported comments here to the FBI before?
when fascism comes to America, it will be draped in an American flag and carrying a bible” needs some updating.
That would only ever have made sense if they were using religious institutions for cover. Instead they infiltrated civil rights groups.
Of course CNN wants to give Trump a platform along with the WaPo and NYT. He helps take the attention away from the current POS POTUS whose approval ratings are worse than Trump’s and he gets their base very excited to vote against Evil Orange Man.
Nothing else happened yesterday? Mike? sarc?
Mike and Sarc don't hear about things until it pierces their blue bubbles in the comments.
American conservatives are becoming more European.
Parallax: noun A change in the apparent position of an object relative to more distant objects, caused by a change in the observer’s line of sight towards the object.
ex. As futurist Francis Fukuyama moved further and further away from the European on his left and the American Conservative on his right, he failed to consider that their seeming convergence, or his inability to resolve them, was the result of a parallax effect and not necessarily due to any movement on their part.
You would think a futurist of even exceedingly low ability would understand how this works.
that first paragraph is lifeblood to Palpatine.
>>Collins was “in an impossible position but did a heroic job,”
lol it wasn’t Iwojima
Yeah, I noticed that. Journalists are REALLY full of themselves. They all think they're scrappy truth seekers, speaking truth to power and acting as "gatekeepers to the first amendment".
meme in my head is Gene Hackman in Hoosiers showing the Press how T is only a man, flesh & blood, six-foot-something and not the spawn of Medusa & the Minotaur
As opposed to members of the Reason commentariat, who are not full of themselves at all.
"This was CNN giving Trump a chance to put on a nice one-man show—and if that's what the network wants do to, so be it. But one imagines that's not actually what folks at CNN wanted to do."
If the folks at CNN didn't want to do it, then why did they do it anyway? ENB is as usual being rather dense.
>>Rep. George Santos (R–N.Y.) was indicted this week on federal charges of ... (R)
The only thing worse for CNN than Donald Trump being president, is Donald Trump not being president.
and insulted the woman he was just found liable for sexually abusing ("what kind of a woman meets somebody and brings them up and within minutes you're playing hanky-panky in a dressing room?")
This is a completely valid comment.
"Tucker Carlson's announcement that he is moving to Twitter isn't getting an enthusiastic reception on Madison Avenue, as many advertisers are already skittish about spending on the Elon Musk-owned social-media platform," notes The Wall Street Journal.
wishful thinking presented as news from a regime propaganda outlet.
"isn’t getting an enthusiastic reception on Madison Avenue, as many advertisers are already skittish about spending on the Elon Musk-owned social-media platform"
The 100 million views he got in 24 hours on his announcement might make those advertisers think twice.
Rogan was bad and icky too, but advertisers found something to like about him...mostly that a daily show where he bullshits with an MMA fighter or stand up comic gets many times the total views of all the MSM channels combined, and they are almost all in the 'key demo'.
So they'll have to make the decision whether they would like the truckloads of money to drop it off on their front lawn, or into the tire fire down the road.
Yeah, and it is painfully obvious that it is made up propaganda.
This columnist actually called a bunch of advertising executives in a couple of hours and guaged the reaction to buying ads? Really?
It is such a transparent lie. Yet it gets the imprimatur of one of the top print newspapers.
Is it any wonder that they are all failing?
Rep. George Santos (R–N.Y.) was indicted this week on federal charges of wire fraud and lying to Congress.
534 congress members still at large (hat tip to the Bee for that one)
Apparently CNN cut the show short by 20 minutes, which tells us that whatever the Cathedral wants us to believe, _they_ think he won.
Your "me too" analysis of the CNN town hall is every bit as clueless as all of the propagandandists you are cribbing off of to tell you what to think.
Trump strolled into a trap. That was the entire point for CNN. Big raitings. Trap Trump.
They had a list of gotcha moments set up for their moderator. It was quite clear she was instructed to get him to say certain phrases. Phrases designed to provide red meat for the progressive left, phrases designed especially to offend women and peel off those vital suburban moms. Phrases designed to be a wedge for social conservatives. And phrases designed to fracture the Republican primary base.
She showed something we don't see in reporters talking to politicians. Ever. Except Trump. She put herself as his equal... No, his superior. She was going to tell him what was true, what was right, and what was wrong. She didn't just push back, she insisted that he follow her gotcha formulas.
Name one time in the last 12 years that either Obama or Biden got any tough questioning, let alone attempts by a reporter who is supposed to be a moderator to lecture them. It doesn't happen.
To this day nobody has asked Biden why he and Obama ordered the FBI to frame Flynn. Not even a question, let alone a full debate. Nobody has pushed back on Biden about taking bribes. Not only was he never trapped in a gotcha debate with a reporter about why they abandoned Bagram air force base and pulled out from a commercial airport, leaving billions in equipment behind and killing servicemen and civilians in the process.
But Trump walked right in to the Lions den.
Democrat politicians are afraid to face the corporate republican establishment media over at Fox, where they would get a professional if ideologically oppositional reception. They certainly wouldn't subject themselves to this. And none of them will face a real opposition journalist ... The ones you have to go to the internet to find.
But here goes Trump. The guy we all thought was an idiot and a man-child. A narcissist so blinded by narcissism that he cannot see reality.
And he absolutely wrecked her. He won every moment of that debate that was supposed to be a town hall. He answered every question while avoiding every attempt at a gotcha.
I have never really seen anything like it. It was stunning.
Now, you need to remember that I loudly called him an idiot. And that dates to the 90s. I saw him on The Apprentice and my opinion was confirmed. I heard him speak about his plans like he was a kindergarten teacher - "it will be beautiful. The best. Fantastic." And my opinion was confirmed.
Then I finally learned that it all was a communication and persuasion gimmick. I still didn't get it.
But if you watched that performance and still have the caracature of Trump the blowhard buffoon in your head, you are too stupid to opine on politics. I don't know what he is, but he is something we have never seen in politics. Bill Clinton couldn't handle a single followup question about Bosnia from Christiane Amanpour. She tried to hold him accountable and got 3 months leave for her trouble. Was that when CNN was brought to heel?
Yet Trump stands before the most hostile press in history, sometimes for hours... And he does so well that they got together and colluded to stop covering him live, so they could edit out the parts that were working for him. They are so hostile that they do not even pretend to be honest brokers.
Do you see what you are parroting? People in the press openly demanding that nobody allow him to speak?? They think a reporter shouldn't report what a leading presidential candidate says?
Are you so completely blind that you cannot see how far from the path you have strayed? No real member of the 4th estate should even entertain such ideas. This should be met with violent opposition and derision by any honest member of the 4th estate. Reporters report the important news of the day. They do not decide who the American people are to be allowed to choose from.
You guys are way over into totalitarian society territory... "We will give you two approved candidates who both support the ruling establishment. You may choose between the red establishment candidate and the blue establishment candidate. You may not hear from the anti-war candidates. You may not hear from the anti-censorship candidates. You may not hear from the candidates for shrinking government power. Just vote for one of the two we have chosen for you!"
This is not democracy. This is not fulfilling the role of the 4th estate.
I am astonished that you cannot see it. You have lost Glenn Greenwald. He is way, way far left. You lost Tim Poole, a socialist activist from the Occupy era. You have lost Matt Taibbi, also of the hard left.
You guys have lost your way, and it is terrible for the country. There is a reason that freedom of the press was enshrined in the constitution, and it wasn't so that you could parrot party talking points and shut down any opposition.
As I was saying over in the Trump-Ukraine article Boehm just put out, it is obvious how the Liberal Media has completely sold out their own ideals to at least Get Trump, if not just generally support Team Blue. The whole "do you hope Russia or Ukraine wins!?!?! RHEEEE!" bit from the reporter was exactly the sort of "With us or against us" simplicity that the press constantly criticized in Bush.
These are the people who viewed Bush's anti-iraq rhetoric as dangerous. They ALWAYS wanted to talk about Israel's crimes against the Palestinians, and insist that maybe we have to overlook a little terrorism to bring peace in the holy land. They are the people who constantly exalt the declarations of the UN because these peaceful resolutions that compromise between very morally problematic dictators are what is necessary for international cooperation. For fucks sake, just 10 years ago these people were calling Romney a dangerous saber-rattler for saying 1/10th the shit our state department and Biden are putting out before tea time. Yes these people are all very nuanced and quick to assure us "it's complicated" when you try to decide who is right or wrong in a conflict.
Unless it's Ukraine. If we are talking about the Ukrainians, then they are as pure as the driven snow, and bringing up anything untoward they might have done is nothing but Russian Propaganda. And god forbid you say "It's complicated" and try to find a solution that compromises between the interests of Ukraine and Russia...to do such a thing is an unacceptable concession to EVEEEEEEEIL.
Yes. Well done Overt.
Glad I came back to read this. Just, damn!
Yes, many good comments today- er, yesterday. (I’m always late).
Special mention for the Al Franken joke. Still chuckling at that one.
See, this should be the kind of analysis Reason puts out instead of copypasting Media Matters articles.
"Trump lied about the 2020 election and about classified documents found at Mar-a-Lago, told the female journalist interviewing him that she was 'nasty,' and insulted the woman he was just found liable for sexually abusing."
1. I'm not convinced of Trump's 2020 election claims, but it's not necessarily a lie if he believes them. There remain many peculiarities about that election.
2. In what way did he lie about the Mar-a-Lago raid?
3. Kaitlin Collins was nasty. She clearly was given the task of asking tough questions and rebutting Trump in real-time but that just turned into her talking over and interrupting Trump. In the bit where he called her nasty, she asked him to answer a question and then kept jabbing at him as he was getting started responding. She deserves no sympathy.
4. Trump is under no obligation to by nice to the woman who accused him of rape. Is it plausible that he did something with her? Yeah. Is the way she acted about the incident (waiting 2+ decades to come forward, referring to rape as "sexy") suspicious? Yes! It's astonishingly childish of Reason to act like Trump was ever going to flagellate himself over this verdict for CNN.
All this points being made, this debate does 2 things for Trump: 1. It pretty much guarantees him the 2024 nomination. 2. It gives Dems some powerful starting points for their attack ads. This debate may have guaranteed Trump a win in the primary and doomed him in the general. But he's also got some impressive political survivability so I'm prepared to eat crow when he wins in 2024.
I have a friend who is conservative. His wife is kind of a so-con soccer mom. She is 100% , DeSantis and Trump will never get her back. But he was leaning DeSantis before the indictments. This town hall just pushed him into rabbid, wild-eyed Trump territory.
People of this country hate unfairness. And anyone not on the team can easily see how unfairly the Bad Orange Man is being treated.
It is so obvious that I suspect it is intentional. Just as in 2016 they want Trump because they already have his negatives so high. The DNC emails made it clear that in 2016 they were colluding with the press to push Trump and other favored candidates in the Republican primary so they could guarantee a win for Herself.
CNN has been a one note partisan shill without exception for the last decade. And now they give Trump a solo town hall? You will never convince me they did it for any reason other than a perceived partisan advantage.
That's my thought as well. They tried that pied piper strategy in 2016 and it failed because Clinton is extremely unlikeable and even though Trump was very divisive at the time, independent voters still gave him a chance because they didn't really know what to expect.
Trump picked up 12 million extra votes from 2016 to 2020 and he still lost because by that point he was a much more known quantity. For all the new people he brought in, he pissed off plenty more while former fans felt burned and left him. This is an interesting situation where the Dems/corporate press seem like they're re-running a failed strategy, but this time there's plenty of reason to think it would work cause he already lost to the guy he's running against.
CNN has taken a lot of flak from the left for platforming Trump, but the left should be thanking CNN for basically delivering the Dems the exact election strategy they were going with. Ted Lieu so much as spelled it out this morning: https://twitter.com/tedlieu/status/1656651293446877184
As I said before, Trump might well pull it out (because plenty of people are now souring on Biden), but it's a rare thing to charge headlong into the enemy's carefully laid ambush and come out with a win. It sure feels like GOP voters are being played for fools.
#2 — Read the blog post Sullum just posted.
Thanks for the spot Mike.
I'm not terribly impressed by Sullum's argument but I at least get where they're going with it now.
You’re welcome.
Of course CNN was deliriously happy to host Trump for this townhall. It is a key step in the DNC plan to ensure Trump is the Republican nominee. They figure Trump is the one Republican in the country that debilitated and senile Joe Biden could beat.
And "Chief White House Correspondent"? That would be one of that group of alleged reporters that Joe Biden mocked at the annual White House Correspondents' Dinner when he pointed out that he gives speeches, takes no questions and turns his back on them. And then, like trained seals, they clapped enthusiastically.
"They figure Trump is the one Republican in the country that debilitated and senile Joe Biden could beat."
Trump's pretty darned senile himself for living in a little fantasy world devoid of reality. Sounds as if he's in the throes of dementia.
Sounds like you're wishing super hard, Shrike. Try it on a falling star.
No rational human could possibly believe this. Not after watching him absolutely defenistrate the CNN host for almost an hour and a half.
I get the need to counter the obvious decline of Biden. But "mentally infirm" isn't going to work for Trump.
I don't know why the opposition doesn't just stick to the issues. He is deadly when attacked unfairly. Not so much when you just stick to political philosophy.
I look forward to CNN's "Town Halls" with the other presidential candidates. (I won't be holding my breath tho.)
Yes, a town hall with Biden would be very interesting.
Give him an arepa or a few arepas I think.
My guess is that the book asserted that America is not a fundamentally racist nation, conceived in slavery and dedicated to the proposition that cis-hetero white men are, and by right ought to be, the rulers of all others.
You might want to re-read the article.
"So if you're an independent voter, if you're a suburban mom, all these voters that Republicans are trying to bring back into the mix, I don't see any of them being convinced."
maybe the first step the GOP needs to take to convince them is to ditch Mr. Trump. he's a fool, utterly unstable, and a liability.
It's not like he assumed the interview was to be other than one loaded question after the other.
I agree. Trump did an excellent job deflecting that jab from the reporter with, I want people to stop dying! (paraphrased)
The cleanest election ever narrative is so played out at this point. Only the most ardent leftists here continue to promote it.
Went back to the roundup thread from yesterday last night, literally laughed at ML's post and you asking WTF in regards to not being on sarc's list.
The SF Chron has yet to get the memo regarding the "Twitter Files", in spite of Twitter being headquartered in SF. Doubt they'll take their fingers out of their ears to hear this news.
Horrible idea. People are willing to give away very personal information for a free platform. The masses want free.
Gotta keep your consumer in mind. Ain't that right Bud Light.
THAT WARMING WAS DIFFERENT!
DO BETTER.
So it's a double whammy.
What social media site has had success with it?
Even newspapers are not doing great with that model.
A handful of Right leaning Youtubers have been demonetize on that platform so they make most of their money through some kind of subscription service. Steven Crowder is the big one. He was able to make his brand a 7 figure operation through his "Mug Club".
He might add some products. But Twitter proper will not by a pay site. It would die. Zuckerburg toyed with the idea of making Facebook a pay site. Didn't happen.
Well... also the DeSantis social media team (which has been a YUGE error)
How big is Mug Club compared to Twitter?
Sure some people will pay for some content. It's likely to be more of a niche thing or something more content oriented. Some drummers pay to subscribe to Drumeo for example a lot of great content by great drummers. I don't consider those sites as social media.
Gotta keep your consumer in mind. Ain’t that right Bud Light.
This is what popped into my head as well. Sure, the ground going a bit soft after Musk and the yipping of Carlson's coyotes in the distance has made investors skittish about entering the Twitter forest but the bisected corpse of AB lying on either side of the hole where the Dylan Mulvaney landmine went off hasn't affected their psyche one bit; nor the emaciated husk of Disney Corp. crying out "Pro-LGBTQIA+ employees! More pro-LGBTQIA+ employees!" like a legionnaire being desiccated in the Sahara either.
I have to admit, Mike seems a bit out of sorts today. Usually he doesn't let his mask slip for several more hours. Maybe he is traveling on the east coast, or in Europe?
Checking...
TayLaw retweets from ENB...
Matty Y retweets...
Nothing on the town hall.
Yep, someone replied and nuthin' from Mikey
Dee's response: "Not gonna happen". No backing citations, or any kind of proof; just lefty gaslighting.
There is no limit to stupid.
The depths of his stupidity will never be fully known.
Trump, criminal justice, free speech and pretty much anything beyond food trucks.
Mug club is $80 a year. Or something like that. Looks like he has over 100k people willing to pay that. Plus Crowder is still free on Youtube for about half his show. So you can free ride his content up to a point. If the only place to see Tucker is Twitter I bet he will do way better then 100K followers.
Yup, nobody pays for Netflix.
Nobody pays for substack.
Patreon has no volume.
Onlyfans is a failed website.
It is known.
Well, if the dems can ban gas stoves, can the repubs ban gaslighting?
And your “backing citations” for your paranoid prediction: “You know damn well there will be a state that bans beef pretty soon.”
Of course you don’t have any. It was a prediction of the future, and therefore not something that can be proven. And my calling your prediction baloney was just my opinion, and therefore not something that can be proven.
Well people pay for movies, they don't want to pay to yap in a vitrual town square.
Btw, that doesn't prove people will pay for Twitter, just because they pay for those sites.
MAGA c0mMuniSts
Biden's failures.
He's fucking lying his ass off. I've given him links and citations. He knows otherwise.
Just more of the casual lying that Buttplug always thinks he can get away with.
""Musk is moving Twitter towards a subscription service, ""
This was your initial claim.
My opinion is that Twitter proper will not be. That's all I've been saying. Sure Musk may hot rod Twitter and bring in more content for a fee. I haven't disagreed with that.
"someone replied"
Who? I have some people muted.
Jeff is actively evil. Outside of his pedophilia and his paid-to-post rhetoric, I suspect Buttplug is simply amoral.
A blue bubble baby's perspective.
"Who? I have some people muted."
He doesn't do it because he is offended by them, he does it so he can claim he didn't see refutations.
The TL;DR is that the Maneuver is a tactic Mike loves to engage to derail threads. He focuses on some tiny minutia where he thinks he can score a point, and tries to start a debate about it. This is how he distracts from the larger points being made.
And my calling your prediction baloney was just my opinion
Duh, baloney is made from beef, which will not exist anymore, ipso facto, you are a dipshit.
What is with all the gutless backpedaling you are engaging in today? Did you have a meeting this morning? You seem to be drunk, which means Sarc would be unconscious...
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental. Take it to the bank.
I have noted several times recently that reason articles appeared to be writers summarizing what they learned from reading The Atlantic, Vox and the NYT.
They don't even offer any original analysis, let alone a distinct libertarian analysis.
All she wants is my beef, beef, beef. Beef baloney.
That lowdown skankadoo.