Hollywood Strike: Writers Demand More Pay, New Limits on ChatGPT
Their last strike previewed the struggles of the streaming era. This one might be giving us an early taste of the age of artificial intelligence.

Thousands of television and movie writers represented by the union Writers Guild of America (WGA) went on strike yesterday. It's the first big Hollywood walkout since 2007, when some 12,000 members stopped working for 100 days.
Today's strikers are demanding higher pay, plus minimum numbers of writers staffing writers' rooms (called "mandatory staffing" by studios and "preserving the writers' room" by the union). On a less familiar note, they're demanding that use of artificial intelligence in the production of "literary materials"—scripts, treatments, outlines—be restricted, whether that A.I. is used to write works or to generate story ideas.
Though WGA writers make, on average, an eye-popping $250,000 a year, the structure of writers' rooms is such that most creatives go through boom and bust times. Those checks that come in while working on a 10-episode TV season must also sustain them during long droughts.
Residuals—payments from reuse of material, be that syndicated reruns or in-flight entertainment—used to help writers withstand those droughts. But in the streaming era, which pays residuals at a much lower rate, many writers say they're feeling a squeeze. (The WGA secured residuals from streaming in the 2007 negotiations, but not at the same rate they were used to from cable and network TV.)
"I do worry that some of my fellow writers—especially younger ones who joined during the streaming-driven boom years, when the number of writers in the W.G.A. reporting earnings grew from 4,500 to more than 6,000—have unrealistic ideas about what a successful negotiation can accomplish," writes Zack Stentz, Thor and X-Men screenwriter, in The New York Times. "No contract can bring back the 1990s model of shows that ran 22-episode seasons for eight years, or fully reinflate the 2010s streaming bubble. Whether we win concessions from the studios at the bargaining table or even through a strike, the brutal reality remains that, going forward, there will likely be fewer well-paying jobs in a volatile industry that may force us to hustle for work more than ever."
The WGA strike will likely have far-reaching consequences, possibly even beyond the unthinkably awful storylines that came out of '07. Whether the union can secure its A.I. moratorium or not, ChatGPT and its kin are likely to change the industry in some way—if not wholly replacing writers then becoming subsidiary to them, to be used as a tool for generating ideas or sketching out a first draft.
"Early on in the conversations with the guild, we talked about what I call the Nora Ephron problem," John August, a screenwriter who is on the union negotiating committee, told The New York Times. "Which is basically: What happens if you feed all of Nora Ephron's scripts into a system and generate an A.I. that can create a Nora Ephron-sounding script?"
What happens, of course, is that then you have more Nora Ephron–esque movies, of varying quality (just as Ephron's existing ones are). Not everything can be When Harry Met Sally, after all; some have to be Heartburn.
"I'm not against writers using A.I. on their own as a tool, like any number of screenwriting tools in the past. If a writer wants to put something into an A.I. to break writers block or experiment with the shape of a scene, that's their choice," says C. Robert Cargill, who wrote Doctor Strange and Sinister. "What I don't want to see is producers or executive using an A.I. to replace a writer, then pay previously negotiated rewrite or polish rates for what will amount to the real heavy lifting to make it sound like a human wrote it."
It's an open question whether A.I. will be used to break writers' rooms or will be more of a work-enhancement tool available for the taking. When Reason needs a voiceover from me for a video, for example, we use an A.I. version as a placeholder during the editing process, which allows me to save time by recording fewer versions. My colleagues use the synthetic voice early on, while I record a higher-quality one later on, after any kinks have been worked out. I have also asked ChatGPT to generate headlines, which I use as a jumping-off point to yield better ones. Even if WGA can secure the protection from artificial intelligence its members say they need, new non-union competitors will surely enter the marketplace at some point, using A.I. tools to their advantage. The initial product might be bad, but it's not destined to stay subpar forever.
For now, ChatGPT is, as Ted Chiang put it in The New Yorker, a "blurry JPEG of the web," prone to hallucinating facts. It's "like a puppy" that "wants to make you happy," venture capitalist Marc Andreessen told Reason in February. "It will start making up names and dates and historical events that never happened." For the time being at least, it needs a high degree of human supervision.
But there's no stopping it, just as there was no stopping the switch to streaming during the '07 strike. Though some industries have used unions to fight for human supervision of technology—three pilots are still needed for long-haul flights, even though planes mostly fly themselves—artificially locking in an incumbent industry won't work in the long run.
"The issue with A.I. is that the real heavy lifting in writing isn't the time to write a basic scene," says Cargill. "It's all the magic you find in that scene that doesn't happen by accident or weaves together with the rest of the story."
Cargill supports the strike, and he worries that ChatGPT will replace not just bad writers but talented writers who are young and just trying to break into a highly competitive industry.
"We're a very small group as is. Cutting that down further will only lead to a more monotone voice coming out of Hollywood, rather than fresh, interesting, and diverse voices," he says. "You think Hollywood feels samey now? Wait until it's just the same 100 people rewriting ChatGPT."
If the big studios go too far in that direction, of course, it could open up more space for upstart competitors who might use A.I. sometimes but make sure to keep a creative human being in the driver's seat.
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Can we pay them what they're worth? For most that amounts to them paying at least minimum wage for 99% of the viewing numbers for time wasted on their garbage ideological propaganda. Learn to code writers.
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Just like public school teachers, those who (forcefully) guide us see the world the correct (progressive) way are worth more than what they make (no matter what they make or how little they work).
Pretty much my thought since most of it is garbage.
My thoughts on 6,000 whining left wing pussies who make a quarter-million bucks already: Fuck 'em if they can't take a joke.
Or write one.
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Hopefully doesn’t delay Cocaine Bear sequel
Cocaine Bear II: Cocaine Bears in Trunks
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For everyone's sake, including his own, I hope Mel Brooks dies before he gets a chance to direct it.
Obviously, a new one for some RiifTrax fun.
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I bet if I put that in a streaming search engine, it'll also recommend Sharknado.
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I hope this strike lasts forever and spreads to all network television employees and also Hollywood. I can't recall having watched a network television show since the 2007 strike and didn't miss it.
Not even Breaking Bad or any other high-concept cable shows?
With the quality of most TV writing, it would be still cheaper to hire sone beggar at the end of a freeway off-ramp at twice the minimum wage.
Hey! A great idea for clearing out Skid Row!
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The beggar could overdose halfway through writing the script and it would still be better than anything Disney has put out in the last 5 years.
Thousands of television and movie writers represented by the union Writers Guild of America (WGA) went on strike yesterday. It's the first big Hollywood walkout since 2007, when some 12,000 members stopped working for 100 days.
Zzz...
Yep, the idiots on YouTube are more entertaining than the written shows TV offers.
Laugh Track operators are still working, meaning a new season of Big Bang Theory will be no different.
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On a less familiar note, they're demanding that use of artificial intelligence in the production of "literary materials"—scripts, treatments, outlines—be restricted, whether that A.I. is used to write works or to generate story ideas.
What were we told about the value of a job or an employee if you could be replaced by a robot?
how cute. the losers unionized.
>>Whether the union can secure its A.I. moratorium or not ...
walking off the job while ChatGPT is writing South Parks is likely losing strategery.
So you're saying that not only are union writers not very good at writing, they're also not very bright?
if you are one I mean only slight offense. Real Housewives of New Jersey is entertaining
"Which is basically: What happens if you feed all of Nora Ephron's scripts into a system and generate an A.I. that can create a Nora Ephron-sounding script?"
*checks help wanted list* Learn to weld.
Aren't there going to soon be millions of new jobs building wind turbines and installing solar panels? Those sound like something that laid off greenie writers would gravitate towards. The meaner ones could find employment with law firms that file suits that stand in the way of progress.
why would they take after Bill? Have some humanity.
ChatGPT could probably write ten times better than most writers in Hollywood these days.
Haven't screen writers already been using plot templates for years? It feels like it. Every show already feels like I've already watched it. The only update to the template recently has been the addition of a mandatory lesbian or trans character or both.
So if the Hollywood writers are on strike, does that mean the democrat primary debates have to be called off?
(credit to a Babylon Bee headline)
Speaking of which, did I miss the exciting final conclusion of Impeachment 4: Insurrection? Did the walls finally close in or did they just flash sideways to an episode Law & Order: Campaign Finance Reform because it turned out the whole thing was just a shared fantasy inside a bunch of dying peoples' minds?
Writers really should be considered gig employees, anyway. If you write something good enough, someone pays you for it. Negotiate your own contract for some percentage of the back end, or if it's work-for-hire on an SJW script, get your money up front.
Hollywood is a mob town and nothing is more mob than the union.
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Compromise: Let AI decide what gets made and who writes it. Who knows, we may end up with another 'Ben Hur', 'Gone with the Wind' 'All About Eve', or movies with 90 to 120 minutes of intelligent and clever dialog pushing an interesting plot, instead of the usual and mundane non stop CGI action and violence and gratuitous sex.
I yearn for the 90s and 00s when gratuitous sex and violence was the norm. Because those things are entertaining. Now you're lucky to get a pair of tits. The only nudity we see more of now is the male variety.
Now the he tits would be attached to Lena Dunham or some other sad potato of a "woman" so I wouldn't necessarily call that lucky.
Plus more homo content, with endless lecturing about that, and tranny shot.
It was the best of times, it was the blurst of times?!
“I’m not against writers using A.I. on their own, as a tool…..”
Well then you’re not against A.I. writing scripts. Why shouldn’t they cut out the middle man, er, I mean middle writing person?
All I've got to say is that AWESOME-O better get a cut out of the deal.
"Writers Demand More Pay, New Limits on ChatGPT"
While its already been said a bunch, have to pile on.
The irony of a group of people with extreme preachy left wing politics who previously have condescendingly shit on coal miners with the 'learn to code' schtick, are now finding themselves to be completely useless and unable to get a raise because some early beta AI software that isn't even near perfected quickly was able to put out better scripts than 99% of current Hollywood writers. Also confirming the long running joke that if you just entered the inputs of "CRT + bipoc + LGBTQ + systemic racism + white supremacy" into an AI it would be able to give you the same result as a modern writer, it seems that has been confirmed with their fear of chat GPT. When your job becomes barfing out scripted talking points with no nuance, turns out its pretty easy to replace you.
Of course the schadenfreude of them pumping crazy amount of money into diversity departments and having race/gender/victim quotas in ever facet of the movie/TV making process, greenlighting mega loss leaders such as anti-racist baby, Megan/Harry content, and intersectional feminist TV/movies, only to see said programs absolutely bomb and lose them money, and now they cant pay writers what they want, is also fantastic.
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Yeah, I have zero sympathy for these overpaid wokie pricks. Same with democrats I know complain about the price of food and gas.
I will never forgive them for ruining Heroes with their fucktarded strike.
Although it did give us the great South Park episode: Canada on strike.
So what? Who cares? So what? Who cares?
There is no reason to have minimum writer staffing. Just another "job creation" racket for hacks.
While I'm not too sympathetic towards the writer's guild, Cargill does have a point. If the guild and studios have negotiated lower rates for editing and rewriting versus writing a script from scratch, it is entirely within reason for them to seek protections against the studios handing them a script-in-name-only and insisting the writer only gets paid the reduced rate even though they basically have to redo the whole thing.
This likely wasn't a concern before, because a studio would have had to pay an actual writer to create the faulty script anyway, but AI works for free and should not be allowed to act as a loophole around the union contract.
How do you know it’s a loophole? It doesn’t appear that what’s an entirely new script versus a rewrite can be objectively measured. If that were the case, and the contract was being breached, they’d have a cause of action. And we’ve heard nothing about a breach of contract lawsuit. I suspect it’s more a case of them having agreed to a contract that is now biting them in the ass. Too bad for them.
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Holy shit, I didn't see that.
Jesus Christ these people cant help but look like the most out of touch shitlibs.
I hope the majority get purged and replaced with AI.
They even have all those Twitter employees beat. I’m glad to see them suffer.
as much as it pains me to rush to the defense of communists, i am pretty sure this is a scenario where the mean is not really a good measure of what's actually happening.
or rather, the mean is much higher than the median, driven up by a few writers making baaaaank.
but if i'm wrong i'm happy to be corrected.
"I think they're trying to replace me, so I've gone on strike!"
- The narrator for Danger Mouse, Season 1 Episode 37 "Send in the Clones"
What happens if you feed all of Nora Ephron's scripts into a system and generate an A.I. that can create a Nora Ephron-sounding script?
"I'll have what she's having." - ChatGPT
People who know ahead of time that their primary income will only be coming in over a portion of the year can't manage to budget out their spending so as to get by on an average of $20k/month?
It's not as if the production cycle of a TV show isn't planned out up front. Rumor has it that a lot of "writers rooms" won't even consider hiring non Ivy-leage graduates; you'd think with that kind of education, basic life skills wouldn't be too tall of an ask.
Except the Ivy Leagues are really crap these days unless you get into a graduate program. They're basically hedge funds operating a university on the side.
ChatGPT, write a script in the style of Nora Ephron
ChatGPT
FADE IN:
EXT. NEW YORK CITY - DAY
We see the hustle and bustle of the city streets, people rushing to and fro, cars honking, and the general chaos that is New York City. Cut to:
INT. CAFE - DAY
JESSICA, a thirty-something writer sits at a table with her laptop, sipping on a cappuccino. She looks up and catches the eye of a handsome stranger, JACK, sitting at a nearby table. They exchange a smile and then quickly return to their respective tasks.
JESSICA (V.O.)
Why is it that the most interesting people always seem to be strangers? Maybe it's because we haven't had the chance to get to know all of their flaws yet.
Suddenly, Jessica's phone rings. She looks at the caller ID and sees that it's her best friend, SARAH.
JESSICA
(on the phone)
Hey, Sarah. What's up?
SARAH (V.O.)
(on the phone)
You won't believe what just happened to me. I was on the subway and this guy started talking to me...
Jessica listens intently as Sarah tells her the story, but her mind keeps wandering back to the handsome stranger at the nearby table.
JESSICA (V.O.)
Why can't I seem to focus on anything other than him? Is it his rugged good looks, his piercing blue eyes, or maybe it's just the fact that he's a complete mystery to me?
Cut to:
INT. JESSICA'S APARTMENT - NIGHT
Jessica sits on her couch, still thinking about the handsome stranger from the cafe. She picks up her laptop and starts typing furiously.
JESSICA (V.O.)
I can't get him out of my head. It's like he's taken up residence there, and no matter how hard I try to focus on anything else, he's always there, lurking in the back of my mind.
Jessica continues typing for a few more moments before she leans back on the couch and sighs.
JESSICA
(to herself)
Why is it that the most interesting people always seem to be strangers?
FADE OUT.
CHATGPT, write a script in the style of michael bay
ChatGPT
FADE IN:
EXT. CITY STREET - DAY
A sleek, black Lamborghini speeds down the street, narrowly avoiding other cars and pedestrians. The driver, a suave and muscular man in sunglasses, is none other than JACK, a notorious criminal with a taste for danger.
As he pulls up to a high-rise building, we see a team of heavily armed guards waiting outside. But Jack is not deterred. With a grin on his face, he pulls out a pair of silver guns and begins firing.
Bullets fly everywhere as Jack weaves in and out of the gunfire, taking out guard after guard with precision and skill. Explosions rock the building as he makes his way inside.
INT. HIGH-RISE BUILDING - CONTINUOUS
The inside of the building is a maze of sleek, modern corridors and high-tech security systems. But Jack is undaunted. With a flick of his wrist, he pulls out a small device and begins hacking into the security systems.
Suddenly, an alarm blares and the lights go out. But Jack is ready. He dons a pair of night-vision goggles and continues on his mission.
INT. SECRET LAB - CONTINUOUS
As Jack makes his way deeper into the building, he finally arrives at his destination: a top-secret laboratory filled with high-tech equipment and strange, glowing substances.
But before he can get his hands on the prize, he is confronted by a team of heavily armed soldiers. Jack doesn't flinch. With a roar, he charges into battle, taking out soldier after soldier with his guns and his fists.
EXPLOSIONS rock the laboratory as Jack finally reaches the prize: a small, glowing crystal that pulses with energy.
With a grin on his face, Jack pockets the crystal and makes his escape, dodging gunfire and explosions all the way.
EXT. CITY STREET - CONTINUOUS
As Jack speeds away from the building, the police arrive on the scene, sirens blaring. But Jack is too quick for them. With a flick of a switch, he activates a set of smoke bombs that engulf the street in a thick cloud of smoke.
When the smoke clears, Jack is gone, leaving the police baffled and frustrated.
FADE TO BLACK.
Wait, just one more, I promise:
chat GPT, imagine that Nora Ephron and Michael Bay collaborated on a script. Write the script.
ChatGPT
Title: When Harry Blew Up Sally
FADE IN:
EXT. NEW YORK CITY - DAY
The bustling city streets are filled with honking taxis and rushing pedestrians. Suddenly, a loud explosion rocks the block, causing people to scream and run for cover.
INT. COFFEE SHOP - DAY
Harry (played by Mark Wahlberg), a hot-headed but charming demolition expert, sits at a small table with Sally (played by Meg Ryan), a neurotic and quirky journalist. They're in the middle of a heated argument.
HARRY:
You just don't get it, Sally. Sometimes, things need to be blown up to make way for something better.
SALLY:
But what about the memories? The history? You can't just destroy everything.
Harry rolls his eyes and takes a sip of his coffee.
HARRY:
Look, I've been hired to demolish that old building on 5th Avenue. And I'm gonna do it, with or without your approval.
Sally huffs and crosses her arms.
SALLY:
Well, I'm gonna write a scathing article about it in the newspaper.
Suddenly, a group of armed men burst into the coffee shop, waving guns.
HARRY:
Shit, this is not good.
SALLY:
What's happening?
HARRY:
I think they're after me.
Sally grabs Harry's hand, and they both run out of the shop.
EXT. NEW YORK CITY - DAY
The armed men chase after Harry and Sally through the busy streets, firing their weapons. Harry pulls out a detonator from his pocket.
HARRY:
Hang on tight, Sally. It's gonna be a bumpy ride.
He presses the button, and a massive explosion rocks the entire block. Debris and smoke fill the air as Harry and Sally fly through the air, landing safely on the other side.
SALLY:
That was insane! You blew up the entire building!
HARRY:
(smiling) Yeah, but did you see the way it crumbled? Beautiful, wasn't it?
Sally shakes her head in disbelief.
SALLY:
I can't believe I'm attracted to you.
HARRY:
(smiling) Well, what can I say? I'm a man of many talents.
They share a passionate kiss as the camera zooms out to show the chaos and destruction they've caused.
FADE TO BLACK.
THE END.
Thanks for not posting the porn version, When Sally Blew Harry.
My guess is it would say, "I'm sorry, Dave, my programming will not let me do that."
Since AI learns from samples of current and past examples, doesn't that mean that using it will only garner you the most bland, beige, milquetoast quality and concepts of the already awful current slurry of garbage that is on the market now ?
Paying children hyped up on candy and soda to mash buttons randomly would give you more creative results.
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