The DOJ Says Marijuana Use, Which Biden Thinks Should Not Be a Crime, Nullifies the Second Amendment
Even as the president bemoans the injustice of pot prohibition, his administration insists that cannabis consumers have no right to arms.

President Joe Biden thinks it is unfair that people convicted of simple marijuana possession face lingering consequences for doing something that he says should not be treated as a crime. Biden cited those burdens last October, when he announced a mass pardon of low-level federal marijuana offenders, which he said would help "thousands of people who were previously convicted of simple possession" and "who may be denied employment, housing, or educational opportunities as a result." Yet the Biden administration, which recently began accepting applications for pardon certificates aimed at ameliorating those consequences after dragging its feet for five months, is actively defending another blatantly unjust disability associated with cannabis consumption: the loss of Second Amendment rights.
Under federal law, it is a felony, punishable by up to 15 years in prison, for an "unlawful user" of a "controlled substance" to possess firearms. The ban applies to all cannabis consumers, even if they live in one of the 37 states that have legalized medical or recreational use. That disability, a federal judge in Oklahoma ruled last month, is not "consistent with this Nation's historical tradition of firearm regulation"—the constitutional test established by the Supreme Court's 2022 decision in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen. The Justice Department recently filed a notice indicating that it intends to appeal the decision against the gun ban for marijuana users.
The Biden administration's defense of the ban relies on empirically and historically dubious assertions about the sort of people who deserve to exercise the constitutional right to keep and bear arms. Among other things, the Justice Department argues that "the people" covered by the Second Amendment do not include Americans who break the law, no matter how trivial the offense. It also argues that marijuana users are ipso facto untrustworthy and unvirtuous, which it says makes them ineligible for gun rights.
According to the Biden administration, the original understanding of the right to arms included exceptions broad enough to encompass people who consume any intoxicant that legislators might one day decide to prohibit. It says the law criminalizing gun possession by cannabis consumers is analogous to laws targeting "intoxicated" people who carry guns in public places.
Judge Allen Winsor, whom Donald Trump appointed to the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida in 2019, accepted that last argument in November. Winsor dismissed a lawsuit in which Nikki Fried, a Democrat who was then Florida's commissioner of agriculture and consumer affairs, argued that medical marijuana patients have a constitutional right to own guns. Winsor agreed with the Biden administration that they do not.
By way of historical precedent, Winsor noted colonial and state laws enacted in the 17th, 18th, and 19th centuries that prohibited people from either carrying or firing guns "while intoxicated." The analogy was strained, since those laws, which applied only when people were under the influence, did not apply in private settings and did not categorically prohibit drinkers from owning guns. Although Fried's Republican successor declined to appeal Winsor's decision, the patients who joined the lawsuit are asking the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 11th Circuit to review their case.
Another Trump appointee, Judge Patrick Wyrick of the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Oklahoma, disagreed with Winsor in response to a challenge brought by a dispensary employee who was charged with violating the federal ban on gun possession by marijuana users. In a February 3 ruling, Wyrick said the government had failed to meet the Bruen test.
In trying to do so, Wyrick noted, the Justice Department had cited "ignominious historical restrictions" that disarmed slaves, Catholics, loyalists, and Native Americans. He rejected the government's argument that such precedents showed it was constitutional to withhold Second Amendment rights from any group that legislators deem "untrustworthy."
Wyrick was similarly unimpressed by the Biden administration's claim that the Second Amendment includes a "vague 'virtue' requirement.'" That theory, he said, is "belied by the historical record" and "inconsistent" with District of Columbia v. Heller, the landmark 2008 decision in which the Supreme Court explicitly recognized that the amendment guarantees an individual right to keep firearms for self-defense.
Although simple marijuana possession is a misdemeanor, the Justice Department argued that illegal drug use frequently entails felonious conduct even when a drug user has not been convicted of a felony. Wyrick was dismayed by the government's claim that any violation of the law that legislators classify as a felony is enough to justify the nullification of someone's Second Amendment rights.
"History and tradition support disarming persons who have demonstrated their dangerousness through past violent, forceful, or threatening conduct," Wyrick wrote. "There is no historical tradition of disarming a person solely based on that person having engaged in felonious conduct."
Such a policy, Wyrick warned, would be an open-ended license to deprive people of their Second Amendment rights. "A legislature could circumvent the Second Amendment by deeming every crime, no matter how minor, a felony, so as to deprive as many of its citizens of their right to possess a firearm as possible," he wrote. "Imagine a world where the State of New York, to end-run the adverse judgment it received in Bruen, could make mowing one's lawn a felony so that it could then strip all its newly deemed 'felons' of their right to possess a firearm."
Wyrick posed that very hypothetical to the government's lawyers. "Remarkably," he said, "when presented with this lawn-mowing hypothetical argument, and asked if such an approach would be consistent with the Second Amendment, the United States said 'yes.' So, in the federal government's view, a state or the federal government could deem anything at all a felony and then strip those convicted of that felony—no matter how innocuous the conduct—of their fundamental right to possess a firearm."
Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis, also rejects the Biden administration's position. "The governor stands for protecting Floridians' constitutional rights—including 2nd Amendment rights," his office said after Fried filed her lawsuit. "Floridians should not be deprived of a constitutional right for using a medication lawfully."
The National Rifle Association (NRA), which for years declined to challenge the rule that Fried argued was unconstitutional, now goes even further than DeSantis. Amy Hunter, the NRA's director of media relations, recently told me "it would be unjust for the federal government to punish or deprive a person of a constitutional right for using a substance their state government has, as a matter of public policy, legalized."
This controversy is part of a broader debate about the constitutionality of criminalizing gun possession by broad categories of "prohibited persons." In addition to "unlawful" drug users, those categories include anyone who was ever subjected to involuntary psychiatric treatment, whether or not he was deemed a threat to others and regardless of his current mental health, and anyone convicted of a crime punishable by more than a year of incarceration, whether or not it involved violence and no matter how long ago it occurred.
Critics of the latter rule, including Supreme Court Justice Amy Coney Barrett and 3rd Circuit Judge Stephanos Bibas, argue that it is broader than the Second Amendment allows. The relevant history indicates that "legislatures have the power to prohibit dangerous people from possessing guns," Barrett wrote in a 2019 dissent as a judge on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit. "But that power extends only to people who are dangerous."
The ongoing litigation over the gun ban for cannabis consumers means that two appeals courts, the 11th Circuit and the 10th Circuit, will have a chance to weigh in on the question.* Appeals courts, including the 7th Circuit and the 9th Circuit, previously have deferred to the congressional assertion of a drug exception to the Second Amendment based on hand-waving references to an association between drug use and violence. But those decisions were issued before Bruen established a more demanding constitutional test for gun control laws. That historical test explicitly rules out "any judge-empowering 'interest-balancing inquiry' that 'asks whether the statute burdens a protected interest in a way or to an extent that is out of proportion to the statute's salutary effects upon other important governmental interests.'"
Whatever the appeals courts ultimately decide, it is more than a little odd that the Biden administration says marijuana use is not serious enough to justify criminal penalties or the practical difficulties that a conviction entails yet somehow is serious enough to nullify a constitutional guarantee. That contradiction is a measure of how committed Biden is to a vision of Second Amendment rights that makes them contingent on legislative whims.
*Correction: This original version of this post misidentified the federal circuit that includes Oklahoma.
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Get rid of the democrats. Today wouldn’t be too soon.
They are logical and consistent. They despise the right to keep and bear arms. Any argument to undermine that right is worthy in their eyes, even if it makes no sense for other policies they are pushing. The maximal removal of 2nd Amendment rights is their number one priority, always.
Getting punished for marijuana use should be stopped. Even doctors recommend that the use of marijuana can prove to be a remedy for a number of medical conditions like PTSD and stress. A number of states has legalized the marijuana use. Recently Maryland is legalizing the use of cannabis within the state which is a crucial step and was required to be taken.
The DOJ Says Marijuana Use, Which Biden Thinks Should Not Be a Crime, Nullifies the Second Amendment
I'm not sure why adding "Which biden thinks" makes this a stronger argument.
Biden thinks a lot of things. Biden thinks things today that he didn't think yesterday. Trump thinks a lot of things, Ronald Reagan thought a lot of things as did Calvin Coolidge.
I have a right to own an AR-15, which Biden thinks should be a crime. I think I have a right to freedom of speech, which Biden thinks is spreading misinformation.
Looks like Justice Barrett will become Sullum's heroine.
Let’s hope it doesn’t turn into heroine addiction.
Reefer madness is a mental health problem
Is she an election denier? That's the litmus test.
Among other things, the Justice Department argues that "the people" covered by the Second Amendment do not include Americans who break the law, no matter how trivial the offense.
So *that's* why President Biden has armed security rather than packing his own heat!
It all makes sense now. SleepyJoe is a pot head.
Congress could decriminalize Marijuana tomorrow, and theoretically the votes should be there to do it. If 100% of the democrats voted in favor, and a small number of Republicans voting in favor, if it's true that "Biden thinks it should not be a crime" then he'd sign the bill. Done and done.
And they don't have to make it "legal", they can just do like SCOTUS did with Roe V Wade: It's no longer a federal matter and is left to the states. The states where it's legal just keep chugging along, and states where it's illegal can either change its own laws... or also keep chugging along. This could be done tomorrow.
logical, brief solutions to political problems are why we are relegated to message boards and not placed in government positions
You can’t develop a long career by solving problems.
I'm not enough of a morally bankrupt, grifting, evil asshole to hold public office. And I'm kind of a bastard at times.
Like so many great injustice, we have to trace this back to the FDR administration. The Marihuana tax act of 1937 was pushed to prevent hemp manufacturers from competing with many paper and timber industries. Hemp rope was also potentially a threat to DuPont, a major business industry with powerful government connections, because they'd recently invented nylon and were trying to push their new product. So they passed an insanely high tax rate to cut down on the cultivation of marijuana and hemp, and got a propagandist to create several short films about how marijuana was tied to criminal activity.
There are very few evils in American government that can't be tied back to some regulatory authority.
Big Pot apparently isn't big enough to pay out handsome "campaign contributions". When they can politicians will look favorably on marijuana. Soon after Big Law will be gunning for Big Pot.
But if they decriminalize pot, how can police have an excuse to search your car based on their “drug sniffing” dog?
Good thing Republicans champion liberty and revere presidents like Nixon who started the Drug War and Reagan who fed it steroids. Oh, wait a sec.
Ideas!
Do we have to re-post the video of Mitch McConnell frolicking in a marijuana field?
"Why is there never any good commentary here?" --- sarc
Feel free to do so. Anytime you want.
Does anyone revere Nixon? I don’t think so.
Another example of sarc unable to criticize Biden.
"Nixon who started the Drug War"
I'm getting tired of people repeating this lie. Nixon passed up a chance to legalize marijuana, but it had been illegal with ridiculously high penalties for 30 years before he was elected President. It was Democrats that passed the first national law against marijuana, and FDR that signed the bill.
Heroin and cocaine were banned for nearly 60 years before Nixon.
Funny how nobody ever goes into the real reason that pot was banned. At the time the objective wasn't to ban pot, it was to ban hemp. William Randolph Hearst was trying to build a newspaper empire. When a newspaper owner wouldn't sell to him one of his tactics was to keep the newspaper from being able to get newsprint paper. Since Hearst owned Georgia Pacific, which pretty much produced all newsprint it was simple. Well a few papermills started making newsprint, using hemp and were selling to the papers that Hearst wanted. Another group was the textile mills that used cotton to make fabric. Hemp was cutting in on their markets. Hearst paid for the movie "Reefer Madness" to be made and started putting articles about the dangers of pot in his papers to sway public opinion and put pressure on FDR.
This is why the real “existential threat” is the two-party system and the paradigm that too few voters reject that they have to choose between the party that backed Reagan/Nixon, and the party which elected Joe Biden on a platform including to rectify the injustices built into the system by a law which was authored by Joe Biden.
Somehow the nation couldn’t have survived Gary Johnson as President because he didn’t know where Aleppo is (although there are entire departments of people in the Exec branch whose job is to provide that information when it’s needed) and was willing to admit it.
Even as the president bemoans the injustice of pot prohibition,
Sadly, no this is not happening.
this fucking vegetable has no idea what's going on with pot prohibition or not.
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Whatever his recent pandering to the Squad wing of the party Biden is an unreconstructed drug warrior and a racist among other things. The Ds could end this tomorrow if they really gave a shit. And I for one am outraged. Jacob promised us that when his Boy joe got elected, the adults in the room would fix this shit. I guess we fucked up. We trusted Sullum.
The votes would be there to legalize pot tomorrow. If he’s in favor of it, why not make it an issue? It would definitely help get the coverage away from everything he has fucked up.
Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up.
I assume he’s doing this because he thinks only blacks smoke weed.
Why do you assume Biden thinks pot should not be illegal?
Because he SAID so?
He has done diddly to actually make it happen. Has he moved to have it rescheduled? No, he has not.
You're giving credit for WORDS when the ACTIONS are what matter and they are the opposite.
"Among other things, the Justice Department argues that “the people” covered by the Second Amendment do not include Americans who break the law, no matter how trivial the offense"
Really. No matter how trivial the offense.
Well, there are so many laws you can bet that if you are old enough to leave the house on your own you have almost certainly broken the law everyday, almost always never knowing you did so, and most of the times the things you did are trivial offenses.
I guess this is how gubment thinks they can take everyone's guns.
Nobody gets to have a gun anymore.
The DOJ Says [insert here], Which Biden Thinks Should Not Be a Crime, Nullifies the Second Amendment
Could not even finish the first sentence without finding a mistake.
Writing "President Joe Biden thinks" is clearly delusional.
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I'd be worried about this, but for unfortunate boating accident, where my entire firearms collection was lost.
What a tortured headline.
NICE
Biden has never had political positions beyond what seemed expedient based on polls. His positions never needed to be consistent.
These days, he doesn’t think at all, he has dementia.
That's been the case for every president since The Gipper.
The inconsistency. Not the dementia.
Well, maybe the dementia too.
Look, here's the problem at the end of the day.
Americans, by and large, have a very serious drug addiction problem. If it's not pot, it's pharma. If it's not pharma, it's drink. If it's not drink, it's probably something pretty dangerous. We've got a society of people smacked out on Soma in one way or another, and that turns them into useful idiots. Useful, oblivious idiots.
We then want to pretend that this has no effect on anything, while asserting that it has nothing/everything to do with enumerated rights. This is stupid.
America should discourage drug use. Period. It shouldn't outlaw it, but it should make it carry some serious, SERIOUS consequences when coupled with activity that results in harm to others. If you misuse a gun (or a knife, or a car, or whatever else) while under the influence, then the sentencing for that crime should be heavily multiplied.
Involuntary manslaughter is what... a max of 10 years in most states? If drugs are present, then multiply the sentence by 5. If a judge would have given two years, the drugs get you ten with no early parole. If he'd have given the max sentence, you get 50 years. If that means you die of old age in prison, well then I hope the drugs were worth it.
We don't need force to deter drug use. Just real consequences.
No one wants to see anyone wielding a weapon who is under the influence...of anything that would rob them of being 100% sober in their right minds, and in absolute possession of all of their faculties.
Pot smokers are laid back. It’s the booze we need to worry about.
It's ok to infringe on the rights that they don't like.
If only the president had some power to reschedule pot to avoid all these problems...
He is a stupid and lazy man.
There are only the rights he wants you to have.
IF pot use is legal it can't be a cause of losing your 2nd Amendment rights. Now, I don't think it should be legal , the science is against that. But arguing as Biden does, he is simply deciding the constituton on his own. Bottom 10 of his law class , folks.
The entire Form 4473 is mostly stupid. They are asking criminals...are you a criminal? Then using that as a basis for selling them a gun. The form should be revised down to basic information needed to run a background check and get rid of the rest. As for the pot question, like the rest of the questions its dumb. Pot is no better or worse than alcohol.