How the Fed Broke Silicon Valley Bank
The Fed's anti-inflation measures had to hurt someone.

The Federal Reserve is in the unenviable position of achieving its mandate by crashing the economy. It's not something it wants to do, as Fed Chair Jerome Powell meekly admitted in his exchange with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) last week. But it's something that happens as an unavoidable outcome of slowing down an economy littered with excess money and inflation. Broad money growth has been negative since late November, and interest rate expenses on everything from corporate borrowing to credit cards to the government's own debt have been rising fast.
This hiking cycle, the fastest that the Fed has embarked upon in a generation, was always likely to break something. And break something they did over the weekend, from the regulated stablecoins USDC and Gemini Dollar, which lost their dollar pegs, to Silicon Valley Bank (SVB), which faced the second-largest bank run in U.S. history. If one weren't so hung up on labor markets, inflation figures, and congressional soundbites, presumably these are the sort of things that a monetary authority like the Fed is tasked to manage. Oops.
In Powell's back-and-forth with Warren, the senator pointed to "things you can't fix with high interest rates—things like price gouging, supply chain kinks and the war in Ukraine." Regardless of how little sense those arguments make, our favorite senator is accidentally correct: monetary policy is about money and assets and banks, with only limited (residual) influence over things in real markets.
Barking up the wrong trees—unemployment, market power—Warren missed an opportunity to examine the things that really are breaking. Around the same time she spoke those words and Powell defended the Fed's action, SVB was desperately trying to raise new money. The effort failed, and plenty of tech investors, including Peter Thiel's Founders Fund, pulled their mostly uninsured deposits at the bank as quickly as they could.
According to Bloomberg, bank CEO Greg Becker asked creditors on a call Thursday to "support the bank the way it has supported its customers over the past 40 years"—as if any bank run had ever been stopped by asking nicely.
The losses in SVB's Treasury portfolio—courtesy of the Fed's quick rate hikes, which crashed the bond market last year—amount to billions of dollars in unrealized losses. The accounting rules of "held to maturity" allows banks to ignore mark-to-market losses if the securities are intended to be held until they come due. Of course, holding to maturity requires you to finance the securities in the meantime, something that's pretty much impossible when your customers don't think you'll make it and instead are demanding their deposits back en masse.
If we ignore this accounting trick, Silicon Valley Bank was already "insolvent" by September of last year, when the unrealized bond losses exceeded its equity.
Towards the end of last year, some $25 billion of deposits ran off as SVB's customers drained their bank deposits to withstand the business pressures of inflation and a thriving venture capital industry dying down. Another $10 billion followed in the early months of 2023, and who knows how much managed to escape over the last few days—Fortune reports $42 billion on Thursday alone—before management threw in the towel on Friday and had the bank placed into the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation's receivership.
Because Treasuries are "risk-free" and therefore carry lower capital requirements for banks to hold against them, banks allocate more of their funds to them. This concentrates banking system risk in a single interest-sensitive security. SVB is just the most extreme and reckless version of a risk present in most American banks. For reference, the rest of the U.S. banking system has unrealized losses amounting to more than $600 billion, some 25 times more than the losses that just brought down SVB.
There's no shortage of blame to place on regulators for having engineered such an unnatural banking market. Far from making banks "safe," the regulatory system concentrates risks, with the alphabet soup of Fed liquidity facilities standing ready to money-print their way out of any trouble.
As Caitlin Long, CEO of Custodia Bank, pointed out on Saturday, this pushes the Fed into a very delicate position: risk systemic bank runs, or roll back the hikes and quantitative tightening that caused this mess, printing money for an even hotter inflation.
6/ * on interest rates—mkt action Thurs/Fri means bond mkt already smells end of Fed QT, which disproportionately sucked deposits out of community banks. Recognize, tho, that a Fed pivot wld keep inflation running hot. Trade-off btwn systemic bank run vs hot inflation—hot potato
— Caitlin Long ????⚡️???? (@CaitlinLong_) March 11, 2023
Most awkward of all, here's what Michael Barr, the Fed vice chair for supervision, said in a speech Thursday as the run was in full swing: "The banks we regulate, in contrast, are well protected from bank runs through a robust array of supervisory requirements." Double-oops.
The stablecoins that Barr was railing against did indeed break over the weekend. The kicker is that it was the transparently audited ones—whose sponsors have been cozying up to U.S. regulators in recent years—who broke their pegs. The eternal scapegoat Tether, shrouded in mystery, investigated and fined by the New York attorney general in 2021, traded at a premium of as much as 3 percent on Saturday. Everything, it seems, is upside down.
Through the magic of "held to maturity," perhaps all the other banks can endure the storm and come out the other side without the same losses that SVB was forced to book last week. It certainly gets easier to harbor underwater securities on your books when the Fed stands ready to finance them for you.
Hang on to your hat—or in this case, your bank account. Because Sen. Warren is right about one thing: "The Fed has a terrible track record in containing modest increases in the unemployment rate."
And last week, something already broke.
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Through the magic of "held to maturity," perhaps all the other banks can endure the storm and come out the other side without the same losses that SVB was forced to book last week. It certainly gets easier to harbor underwater securities on your books when the Fed stands ready to finance them for you.
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Odd how Libertarian deregulation policies are always producing massive economic failure.
Repeal Dodd‐Frank - CATO (KOCH) Institute
https://www.cato.org/commentary/repeal-dodd-frank
"The fact is that Dodd‐Frank has not made our financial system safer. Repealing all or large parts of it would, if anything, improve financial stability."
Clown Car that is Libertarian economics has never produced anything but failure.
How predictable lefty shits show up and lie about economics.
Read the article, fuck off and die, asshole
The major "institutional"/"too big to fail" banks should be OK through all this because they generally borrowed the money for their T-bond purchases from the Fed in the first place. Unless the Fed calls in those markers, it'd likely be tough for them to get hit by a run significant enough to force them to liquidate those holdings.
For those who like to gamble on options trading, calls on the XLF should be a highly lucrative play right about now since that sector just got destroyed over the last few days. If/when the trading algorithms figure out the nature of the institutions they're employed by, that slate of stocks might take as big an upswing as the current panic has caused a drop.
The problem wasn't the recent anti-inflation measures by the Fed, it was the years of pro-inflation measures by the Fed. You don't usually go broke buying safe long term bonds, you just earn less interest than you might have as rates go up.
A decade of easy money led to billions going to investments in startups with no near term path to profitability. When the spigot was turned off, all those startups switched from being net depositors of cash to primarily withdrawing cash. And then the bank had to sell its safe long-term assets to cover the deficit, at a time when it was unfavorable to sell them.
Interest rates are never stable. This was just bad interest rate risk management by SVB. They did no rate hedging whatsoever of their treasury portfolio.
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But they wouldn't have been forced to sell them if the easy money investing bubble hadn't started, and then ended abruptly. They could have hedged the rate risk better, but they misjudged their core business of predicting the local economy.
If other companies were failing in the same way I could see blaming the end of free money, but it seems like SVB just made bad business decisions and had poor risk management. That's what brings down companies every day.
Yet the article states the Fed made matters worse. You can't pin the blame 100% on SVB for the bank run.
Oh, I am a critic of the Fed and its loose money policies of the last 25 years or so. I just don't see the return to a reasonable Fed rate as the precipitous cause of SVB's failure. If it was a systemic cause we would see more banks failing in the same way.
This was a failure at SVB, but that doesn't mean the Fed is blameless. They're the ones who pumped obscene amounts of money into the system over the past two decades.
risk systemic bank runs, or roll back the hikes and quantitative tightening that caused this mess, printing money for an even hotter inflation.
I'm no whiz at the game of financial whackbat, but I can't imagine what damage we caused by years quantitative easing.
Text is notoriously bad at tone, but I'm sensing a wee bit of sarcasm.
So can we still tax them for any unrealized gains? Asking for a senile President.
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As SVB voluntarily bought USTs, their bankruptcy lies on them, not on the Fed.
Bank investments in USTs aren't exactly voluntary.
They are entirely voluntary. No bank is required to hold USTs. They do, because the credit risk is (theoretically at least) zero and they are usually the most liquid of assets.
A little more to it than that. No risk officer for nearly a year, all during the rates run-up. KPMG signed off on the audits, too. There is much more to the story.
I just want to know whose bright idea at SVB it was to go long on treasuries in the middle of last year. That was a spectacularly bad decision. The market delivered their verdict last week.
I am not convinced it is the right decision to arbitrarily ignore FDIC regulations (accounts are insured to 250K). I am quite sure the telephone lines from Northern CA to Washington DC were burning up.
I didn't know that about the RO, but it wouldn't surprise me.
As for KPMG, having briefly (4 years) worked for one of the other Big 4 (though in a different area) I wouldn't bet on external auditors being able to spot a turd in a punchbowl.
Yeah, no RO for 8-9 months really screwed them. But to be fair, it is their own damned fault. That CEO should be burned at the stake.
Gee, I wonder if they shorted the stock?
People are focusing on the change in the long bond values, but the crisis was caused by customers abruptly depositing less (since the easy money flow had ended) and continuing to withdraw as usual. I suspect the bank would have still crashed, just slower, if they had a better variety of bond maturity dates.
No. You can sell USTs instantly and get the cash next day (T+1). A high volume of withdrawals can readily be met by immediate UST sales. The issue is, as I noted in reply to you elsewhere, the capital loss on the sale. For once this was not an illiquidity issue, which is commonly what bedevils banks in a crisis.
So a corporation has 200M in the bank, through investments. The Feds Insure 250K. That is about 1.2% insured. A corporation COULD conceivably have it all insured with 1000 accounts.
The problem is that the laws are there to benefit the FED (a private entity) at a direct cost to the PEOPLE of the USA when things go wrong. How about changing the laws such that WHEN a bank becomes insolvent, the feds are NOT allowed to give bail out and all officers of the bank are forbidden from employment in stocks and banking for life and their wages and golden parachutes are attachable in recovery?
As long as there is no risk to the executives, there will be issues. As soon as there are high rises (commensurate with their income levels) I guaranty that this will not happen.
In a bank like SVB, special contracts regarding deposits should have been made. This would have mitigated a run in advance.
I don't support passing legislation to ban people from working. But there should be some score kept on executives who are involved in collapses and financial malfeasance at the companies they wrok for.
You can't put all the blame on a sub-C-suite employee, but you can attach a negative rating to them when they are managers at a company that perpetrates crimes or allows for unethical practices.
It would make the lower-down people who can't walk away with a new job and a golden parachute (like the C-suite folks) more likely to blow the whistle because it would impact them directly.
For example, remember when Wells Fargo opened thousands of accounts in their customers' names without authorization? Do you really think the managers who were implementing the policy would have gone along if they knew that their name would be directly associated with the fraud for years to come? And that it would directly impact their employability in the financial sector?
If it happens on your watch, you are somewhat responsible. If you passively participated by turning a blind eye, you share a fair amount of responsibility. If you actively participated, you share a lot of the responsibility. And if you created the policy you have the most responsibilty. There should be something that indicates your culpability for all future employers to see.
Also, I support the idea of having a defined portion of the compensation executives receive be exposed to litigation. Definitely any golden parachutes, but also the bonuses and the value of any stock options that were cashed out in the previous 365 days. That would prevent the nonsense like SVB giving out bonuses to their employees hours before they collapsed. That's bullshit.
Only trouble is, this only works as a sort of regulatory score, which would be enforced by regulatory agencies, which are corrupt and broken (because pretty much anything is corruptible and breakable, especially government bureaucracies).
The only way I see it working would be that if you've got a lot of these low-rated people in your high-level personnel, it somehow drives up your cost of doing business. I suppose you could require some sort of risk rating to be posted like restaurants do for the board of health, but the government/corporate/DEI crowd will just outright lie about it, because all they do these days is lie, lie, and lie some more -- so, then what?
I can remember when FDIC insurance was only $100,000. That should tell something about how far moral hazard has gone over the years.
if brandon hadn't spent trillions of dollars we didn't have and then printed the fake money we wouldn't be in this inflationary economy.
You think that Biden was the only one who did this? You should look at the annual deficit going back to Reagan. And, btw, the deficit soared under Trump. Perhaps you didn't know this.
#DefendBidenAtAllCosts
Mitigation, at best. Am I wrong about Trump?
Trump could have vetoed all that democrat spending, especially during COVID. But then he would have been torn apart by the media, and people like you for doing it. Then there’s that veto proof majority of democrats, supplemented by RINOs that would have made his veto moot.
But sure, all Trump’s fault.
But sure, all Trump’s fault.
I didn't say that, nor is it true. But your defence of Trump, that had he vetoed that Democratic spending he'd have been crucified in the media demonstrates that you actually have very little confidence in Trump as a president, that he was too weak to stand up the media. Is that what you really think?
And, btw, do you think that the budgets during his admin had nothing to do with him?
Still, just look at the charts of gov deficit v. real GDP, and tell me that Trump has no responsibility. They all do but some have managed it better than others, and Trump wasn't one of the betters.
Then there’s that veto proof majority of democrats, supplemented by RINOs that would have made his veto moot.
What veto-proof majority? Oh, you mean that once you add in all the "RINOs" it was veto-proof? You are assuming that those RINOs would actually risk Trump's ire (or that of his fans, rather) voting to override a veto just because they voted for something that Trump was expected to sign.
I mean they voted for the bills even when he criticized them.
This is the lefty shit defending murder of the unarmed as a preventative measure:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”
Fuck off and die, asshole.
He couldn't have vetoed it. Most passed with veto proof majorities. Trump even said he hated signing quite a few.
He still could have done it. The man loved to spend money. He was a hell of a lot better than the pantshitter we have now, but he could spend with the best of them.
"...The man loved to spend money..."
Cite please.
All debt incurred under Republican presidents is the fault of Democrats. All debt incurred under Democrat presidents is the fault of Democrats. See?
Odd how Libertarian deregulation policies are always producing massive economic failure.
Repeal Dodd‐Frank - CATO (KOCH) Institute
https://www.cato.org/commentary/repeal-dodd-frank
"The fact is that Dodd‐Frank has not made our financial system safer. Repealing all or large parts of it would, if anything, improve financial stability."
Clown Car that is Libertarian economics has never produced anything but failure...
How predictable lefty shits show up and lie about economics.
Read the article, fuck off and die, asshole
Tbis is the second time you posted the same thing, looking for a response. So here it is: targeted and reasonable deregulation is a good thing. Reckless deregulation and/or deregulatimg for its own sake is a bad thing.
It's not something that a simplistic "libertarian, bad" comment can cover. It's the financial market, probably one of the most complex markets on Earth. No one thinks it should be completely deregulated.
"You think that Biden was the only one who did this? You should look at the annual deficit going back to Reagan. And, btw, the deficit soared under Trump. Perhaps you didn’t know this."
The current inflation was caused by free money distributed in lockdown (Biden and his crew favored prolonged and restrictive lockdown) chasing the same amount of goods. Biden compounded the problem with his own terrible spending plan and inability to address supply logjam.
The ongoing war in Ukraine is certainly contributing factor. Oil prices are speculative and will never return to prepandemic levels if there's no sign of future production. Increase in fuel prices mean increase in cost of.... just about everything. Green energy warrior Biden is supposedly relenting and green lighting drilling in Alaska, but I'm not holding my breath.
So no, big time spending by former presidents is not the primary reason why we are here. Deficits soared under Trump as a result of his tax overhaul, which was a net positive for the economy. "No tax cuts without corresponding spending cut" is sound policy on paper, but it's not realistic.
"So no, big time spending by former presidents is not the primary reason why we are here."
Agreed. The spending exacerbated the problem, but 25 years of free Fed money is the main culprit. The Fed rate should be 3 to 5%, not zero to practically zero.
"Deficits soared under Trump as a result of his tax overhaul, which was a net positive for the economy."
It made no difference to the economy, but took a terrible deficit and made it horrific. And there was no reason for it.
If there's a catastrophic event that disrupts the entire economy (9/11, the Great Recession, COVID), there's at least an external justification for more deficit spending.
But another supply-side boondoggle in the midst of an economy that had been strong and growing for most of Obama's and all of Trump's Presidencies? Ineffective and pointless tax cuts that added over a trillion more borrowed dollars? "Unforced error" and "self-inflicted wound" are the kindest ways to describe Trump's tax cut.
"“No tax cuts without corresponding spending cut” is sound policy on paper, but it’s not realistic."
I'd be fine with "no tax cuts that grow the deficit". That would force spending cuts. It would also encourage cuts that target individuals and the middle class. Increasing demand is the only proven way to grow the economy.
Supply side tax cuts don't work. They never have. They never will. The only way is to put more money in the pockets of individuals and let companies figure out how to get some of it into their coffers.
bipartisan agreement on zero interest rates or negative rates to increase economic growth and prop up emerging markets stocks.
Tax revenues went up after the tax cuts.
No, they didn't.
They fell a slight bit in inflation-adjusted dollars and they were significantly lower relative to GDP. That means the economy grew but tax revenues fell, mostly because of huge drops in corporate taxes (those are the supply-side tax cuts that always screw things up). Cuts to individual tax rates are demand-side (those work).
It should be noted that the growth in GDP wasn't much different than the Obama administration, so the tax cuts didn't spur a noticeable growth in GDP.
What did grow was the deficit. Which shouldn't be a surprise since inflation adjusted tax revenue fell, tax revenues relative to GDP fell, corporate taxe revenue fell 31% (which those companies used to buy back stock to benefit their executives with stock options and the investor class).
For a $110 billion dollar growth in the deficit, the Trump tax cuts delivered ... nothing. Less than nothing, given the cost. No noticeable change in GDP growth. No change in revenue from individual taxes and, since the top rate was cut and those making over 500k paid less, guess who made up the difference?
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/government-revenue/
I'll say it again. Supply side economics has never worked. It has never delivered on its promises. It has always grown the deficit while decreasing the tax burden on companies and shifting it to individuals (especially those not in the top bracket).
Demand-side economics, specifically lowering tax rates on middle income taxpayers, those who make between 35k (25th percentile) and 90k (75th percentile) per year, delivers positive results.
But that would require companies to work for that money. When you have lobbyists and a political party beholden to failed policies (but this time it will work, really!), why bother working for it?
Didn’t the fed.gov take in more money after the tax cuts? Why yes they did: https://www.thebalancemoney.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762.
Perhaps it’s a spending problem and not a revenue problem?
Sometimes revenues go up after tax cuts sometimes, as under GWB, they go down. Sometimes revenues go up after tax increases, as under Clinton. From which an intelligent person would conclude that there's no iron rule relating tax changes to revenue changes.
Weird, when you adjust for inflation revenue fell slightly. It's almost like when you compare apples to apples, supply side economics doesn't work.
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/americas-finance-guide/government-revenue/
The graph is about halfway down, headed "Federal Revenue Trends Over Time, FY 2015-2022
Inflation Adjusted - 2022 Dollars".
And what do you think caused that inflation? Why, spending of course. You're not helping matters.
Loose money policies and deficit spending caused inflation. You can't have 40 years of deficit spending (with a minimal pause under Clinton) and 20+ years of zero-to-near-zero Fed rates and not end up with inflation.
Sooner or later the bill always comes due. This time it just took a couple decades.
Hah! "Taxpayers won't be funding the depositor bailouts." Take a look at your 401k or IRA or broker accounts and realize your investments/retirement nest egg hasn't lost ten of thousands - or more - in the last year.
I wish it was only 10’s of thousands.
You made much more over the last 25 years due to the reckless free money policy from the Fed.
Yes, restoring sanity will take some of that back because it cools down the economy and exposes companies with poor management (like SVB) to failure.
It also makes companies shed the workers it kept back when the risk of losing a good worker was more expensive than borrowing to keep them, especially in tech where being profitable isn't as important to investors.
If you're worried abiut the shoet-term value of your retirement account, you aren't doing it right.
"If you’re worried abiut the shoet-term value of your retirement account, you aren’t doing it right."
Spelling errors aside I get what you're saying. But if you are retired or very close to retirement the short term value of your retirement account is important even if you did everything right.
True. But if you are about to retire you also benefitted from over two decades of free-money policies that artificially boosted company values. And that has been going on long enough that Loose Money could legally buy a drink today.
Artificially juicing the economy during periods of prosperity is great for the President, especially if they just passed deficit-expanding supply-side tax cuts and want to pretend they worked (see: Gerorge W and Trump).
Plus since there is a lag, the blowback might not even hit you. George W only missed by a year. Trump would have missed by three, but he got the boot after one term because he sucked at so many other things.
But if you have created an environment where money is cheap and easy, some companies will assume that the good times will never end. Those companies will overhire (see: recent waves of tech layoffs), or overextend themselves, or lose fiscal discipline. And when the music stops playing, those companies will be left without a seat.
I apologize for the typos. I post from my phone and I fat-finger things all the time. I try to proofread.
OH NO ! The Fed’s ham-handed yanking on the reins has caused financial disaster ! Who could have possibly seen this coming.
Let's admit the truth. This is all Trump's fault.
According to Biden's speech this afternoon, you are correct and the Biden administration has already re-instituted some regulations which Trump removed, but he was in too much of a hurry to give any details.
Similarly, the taxpayers are not paying for the full bailout of all accounts (which might possibly be true for this individual bank, but Katy bar the door if there's more)
https://freebeacon.com/columns/silicon-valley-bank-bailout-is-socialism-for-the-rich/
It was too big to fail.
'...too CONNECTED to fail...'
[Elizabeth] Warren…pointed to "things you can't fix with high interest rates—things like price gouging, supply chain kinks and the war in Ukraine."
A U.S. Senator openly brags she does not understand the simplest economic concept: scarcity. You don’t “fix” supply & demand, you respect your oath of office and get the fuck out of the way.
She probably imagines we can fix Pi at 3.0 and be done with it.
Other than not putting tariffs on things, the government can't do much to fix supply chain issues. If a company can't get their textiles from China because they locked down an entire city (and its port) for 10 weeks, nothing the government does can restart those factories or reopen the port.
"Other than not putting tariffs on things, the government can’t do much to fix supply chain issues."
You are a steaming pile of lefty shit, aren't you?
IF Newsom, et al, had not appointed themselves as czars of planned economies, and decided they could stop and start businesses at the snap of a finger, perhaps there would be no 'supply chain issues'.
I admit to knowing next to nothing about banks, fiscal policy, etc.
But how is it we have a multi-billion dollar cock-up on Friday, and on Monday everyone can tell you exactly why?
But how is it we have a multi-billion dollar cock-up on Friday, and on Monday everyone can tell you exactly why?
Great question. I think part of the answer is that the vast majority of the armchair quarterbacks weren't watching the game live. They just look at a couple of highlights once the big loss makes the news and know who fucked up.
This is the lefty shit defending murder of the unarmed as a preventative measure:
JasonT20
February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
“How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?…”
Fuck off and die, asshole.
It's useful to distinguish between levels of causation, contributing factors, etc. You can talk about Fed policy, inflation, bank regulation, bank management, etc. but the proximate cause is very simple and can be understood by anyone who's spent 5 minutes learning about bond duration.
Ignoring details like capital requirements, accounting, etc. it's as simple as this:
Someone deposits $100 with you. You invest that $100 in a 10-year UST. Yields rise, the 10-year UST is now worth only say $90 and your depositor wants his $100 back. You're fucked.
That's why it's so easy to work out what happened.
The funny thing SRG, is that it really is that simple.
IKR?
Except that banks loan out 90 bucks of the 100 bucks, so they only have 10 bucks on hand. And then the 10 bucks is suddenly only worth 5 or 6 bucks. And customers stop depositing new 100 buck deposits (since easy money is over), and start taking 20 bucks at a time out instead. It wouldn't matter if the bank had 6 bucks or 10 bucks left, they would still crash.
Buying the UST is in effect lending out the money already...to the US Treasury. (To be accurate, most of the time they're buying USTs in the secondary market and so buying them from someone else who bought them, etc etc. until you get to the someone who did lend the money to the US Treasury.) And USTs are highly liquid so the bank could have liquidated its assets very quickly - except that this would not only crystallise the loss on the USTs they sold, they'd be compelled to write down the value of their other USTs. And this problem only arises because when they had to sell to meet deposit withdrawals, the USTs were under water.
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This is what you get when you let laissez-faire capitalism run amok.
Sarcasm?
Actually no. Absent FDIC insurance and bank regulation, people would have looked much more closely at any of the banks they're lending money to. A pragmatic libertarian argument in favour of FDIC and some regulation is that it's economically inefficient for everyone to have to learn accounting in order to read a bank's balance sheet before depositing funds, and the overall reduction of risk from regulation makes the banking system more robust and less prone to shocks, which is generally good for the economy. This is not an argument for over-regulating, of course,
"...A pragmatic libertarian argument in favour of FDIC and some regulation is that it’s economically inefficient for everyone to have to learn accounting in order to read a bank’s balance sheet before depositing funds, and the overall reduction of risk from regulation makes the banking system more robust and less prone to shocks, which is generally good for the economy..."
The counter argument has a UL-like private rating agency, the costs of which are built into the debit side of the banks' ledgers.
Never any chance of a Yellen/Biden decision to bail out on (ultimately) taxpayer money.
but svb had such a great esg score
stakeholder capitalism for the win
What does ESG have to do with a mismanaged bank going belly-up?
Plenty.
Show your working.
Cobler, stick to your last.
Do you need more?
Says you? How, exactly?
The numbers don't lie. Look them up.
Which numbers? This may come as a shock, but no one will just take the word of an anonymous post in a comment section as truth.
Would you care to actually support your assertion?
There's no question that Trump bears some of the blame. It's still amazing to me that he was actually dumb enough to let himself get suckered into destroying the economy over the pretext of the mostly harmless China virus. A smarter man than him would have immediately figured out what they were up to and told them all to go fuck themselves. Especially given that he knew (or should have known) that they were out to destroy him by any means necessary since early 2016!
Having said that, the people who bear the most blame for this three year long (and counting) hellish nightmare we're all going through are Fauci and all the rest of the Deep State regime who wanted him out so badly that they were willing to all bit destroy the country if that was what it took.
In a truly just world, all the participants of this evil cabal would be hanged, old school style.
IDK how much of SVB's problem was deposits for payrolls (which is often where the over-FDIC limit creates probs). Probably not much.
But this is exactly where a Post Office Bank works in other countries. There is no fractional reserve stuff or lending. All deposits are matched to T-bill holdings and both assets and liabilities are short term. There is no need for FDIC insurance because Tbills don't need insurance from itself. Thus there is no limit on a payroll account and no risk and it pays a per check fee rather than playing with float or yield curve.
And with the one legitimate payments issue resolved, all other bank transactions could assume free market risk with no threats/extortion to bring down the system.
Yes, the post office is the gold standard for business acumen.
Look, all this whining and crying over SVB going under and what it means for the bigger picture is just fluff. It's nothing that a few hundred thousand more illegal immigrants can't fix.
FDIC has 126 billion reserves, insured deposits are upwards of 10trillion or l.35 percent. Not so great systemic risk management.
It seems that private banks are, in reality, mutual companies backed by the money printer. Guess they’ll all go to non profit mutual status, similar to some insurance companies…bahahaha
Waiting for the$40 loaf of bread.
And if FDIC overpays beyond insured amounts for the first 2 bank failures, what happens when the next 20 fail?
$200 loaves of bread. “Let them eat turnip broth”
For those who have forgotten what capitalism looks like, companies failing due to poor management and an inability to compete is what it's all about.
This isn't the Bush years, when a blind desire to grow the economy tbrough loose money policies created a bubble that threatened the entire economy.
The irresponsible spending of the last 3 years created the potential for Bush Part Two, but the Fed has changed course and tightened instead of trying to maintain strong growth like Bush did.
I didn't think the "soft landing" the Fed was aiming for was possible. I still don't, but if we manage to get out of this with only one recession (of the shortest possible length) it will be an impressive threading of the needle.
It should also be a warning for the Fed to stop trying to juice the economy with low rates, but I have even less belief in that happening than a soft landing.
I read that the were working all weekend to fix it, all hands on deck. Not sure what that involved, maybe a big bake sale to make up for the losses. I mean, they worked Saturday and Sunday like regular people. Maybe we should bail them out after suffering so much.
I absolutely love the fact that Yellen said, point blank, that they wouldn't bail out SVB. Outside of the FDIC deposit insurance, which every bank has, they won't be made whole with public money.
I liked the structure of TARP, since the government got back more than they spent, but not spending at all is even better. Plus it sends a signal that counting on the government to bail out poorly-run companies is a bad bet
The bank wasn't bailed out, just the depositors. Things would have been really bleak today if they hadn't been, especially in California.
The bank's investors (shareholders and bondholders) were allowed to be wiped out. Unless some bigger bank buys up the remnants at at a greatly reduced price.
That's my point. FDIC isn't a bailout, it's insurance that all banks have (I believe it is required). Additional public funds above and beyond the $250k-per-account that FDIC covers would be a bailout. That, as of now, isn't happening.
But considering the power of the financial sector lobbyists, we'll see if it lasts. For the first time since the 80s, the (initial) answer is NO.
https://time.com/6262143/silicon-valley-bank-bailout-yellen/
All accounts at SVB over 250k will be bailed out.
Shit. This wasn’t going to cause a crisis of confidence in banks, writ large, but they chicken-littled.
I guess the only silver lining is they are using FDIC funds to cover account-holders and not bailing out the business. Since FDIC is paid for by policy-holders (the banks) it at least is funded by the industry.
But I’m disappointed that they didn’t let people suffer the consequences of their banking decisions. I understand it politically and sympathize as a supporter of small businesses, but they knew when they went over 250k they were exposing themselves to risk.
“…I guess the only silver lining is they are using FDIC funds to cover account-holders and not bailing out the business. Since FDIC is paid for by policy-holders (the banks) it at least is funded by the industry…”
Funding the bail-out of over-FDIC depositors of one bank is a “silver lining”? You do know that droolin’ Joe’s handlers are in charge here, right?
"...Additional public funds above and beyond the $250k-per-account that FDIC covers would be a bailout. That, as of now, isn’t happening..."
Yes, it is. And the claim (lie) from Biden is that "no taxpayer money will be involved".
Seems the Jackson orchard is paying off, right?
I’m not convinced they won’t eventually get bailed out.
Depends on if the industry lobbyists start pushing or if it's just the two banks, individually, making the pitch.
If it's the industry lobbyists, they will get bailed out. Financial lobbyists are too powerful.
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1635301475705589762?t=2ukEGuEqjPMBRwK-pyFwEg&s=19
They are going push ESG and "sustainability" into the banking system. Republicans are sleeping at the wheel. This needs to be stopped.
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Europe is now more free than the US
Keep this in the back your thoughts...This is all by design and just the second, first-step of Davos, WEF-types for eliminating the middle class. (The first step was punishing people for not 'volunteering' to be mRNA lab rats.)
How Biden's Policies, Yellen's Treasury and Powell's Fed Broke The Silicon Valley Bank
Biden's inflationary policies hurt everyone.
Yellen's money printing caused inflation.
Powell's Fed's anti-inflation measures had to hurt someone.
YET IT'S ALL TRUMPS FAULT! - Joe Biden
Yellen doesn't run the Fed. The Fed is where the quantitative easing has come from since W was in office.
While Biden's reckless spending made things worse, deficit spending since Reagan (with a slight pause under Clinton) has been a bipartisan effort.
When a President can inherit a strong economy and grow the deficit anyway, like Trump did in '17 and '18 ('19 and '20 aren't on him), the problem is bigger than one President.
"When a President can inherit a strong economy and grow the deficit anyway, like Trump did in ’17 and ’18 (’19 and ’20 aren’t on him), the problem is bigger than one President."
Stuff your TDS up your ass, pathetic pile of shit; your head wants company, scum bag.
BTW, steaming pile of shit: “…When a President can inherit a strong economy and grow the deficit anyway, like Trump did in ’17 and ’18 (’19 and ’20 aren’t on him), the problem is bigger than one President…” Obo ‘inherited’ an economy at the bottom of its performance and increased it from that bottom by nearly nothing; Trump “inherited” an economy barely wiggling on its knees.
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How is this any different than the FTX debacle? Because he bought his parents a mansion?
FTX is just old-fashioned embezzlement. This is a poorly-run business.
Odd how Libertarian deregulation policies are always producing massive economic failure.
Repeal Dodd‐Frank - CATO (KOCH) Institute
https://www.cato.org/commentary/repeal-dodd-frank
"The fact is that Dodd‐Frank has not made our financial system safer. Repealing all or large parts of it would, if anything, improve financial stability."
Clown Car that is Libertarian economics has never produced anything but failure.....
Hahahahahaha. Just wow.
Even stranger that the Democrats who held POTUS, House and senate did not reinstall. What happened there?
How predictable lefty shits show up and lie about economics.
Read the article, fuck off and die, asshole
This is the third time he posted the same thing. Like the paleos that can't accept that the labor participation rate doesn't say what they want it to, he can't accept his take is simplistic and inaccurate.
Dodd-Frank wasn't repealed, nor was it gutted. The Federal Reserve could have stress tested SVB but chose not to.
SVB failed because they took on massive interest rate risk, believing the Biden administration that "inflation was temporary".
Regulators knew this and did nothing, until it was too late and taxpayers ended up footing the bill for Oprah's mansions.
"believing the Biden administration that “inflation was temporary”."
Why would you assume they did that? It seems to be poor risk management that did them in. Well-run companies manage their risk. SVB didn't. That has nothing to do with any statement by a politician. Which is why only two banks failed, not hundreds.
Of course if they actually based their strategy on the statement of a politician, they were even worse managers than they seem already.
Breaking: SVB risk assessment manager was an intersectional hire; Female, POC, queer, immigrant.
She had instituted safe spaces at the bank and did the left circuit of LGBTQXYZ magazine covers representing underserved communities.
No meritocracy
No free markets
You mean the risk officer whose position, as noted above, was left unfilled for 9 months before the collapse?
Apparently the most important element of your "intersectionality" hire was the fact that they didn't exist.
The Fed’s anti-inflation measures had to hurt someone.
^^^ YEP ^^^
Thank goodness Democrats gave us pointless paper ‘fiat’ money./s
And abused the living tar out of it.
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'Odd how Libertarian deregulation policies are always producing massive economic failure.
Repeal Dodd‐Frank – CATO (KOCH) Institute
https://www.cato.org/commentary/repeal-dodd-frank
“The fact is that Dodd‐Frank has not made our financial system safer. Repealing all or large parts of it would, if anything, improve financial stability.”
Clown Car that is Libertarian economics has never produced anything but failure….."
Suffice to say, lefty shit, the run meant we (wife and I) looked at some issues and it turns out that the private sector deposit insurance for credit unions is far more generous than the FDIC, even given the number of banks approximates 2X the number of C/Us.
You, as a lefty shit might fantasize some conspiracy, but it seems the C/Us are far better managed, given that they return more to depositors than banks with better risk management.
Perhaps VendicarD is simply a slimy pile of lefty shit?
Naah, not even a question...
Speaking of Dodd-Frank: Barney Frank blames crypto panic for his bank’s collapse. Elizabeth Warren blames Trump.
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/03/13/barney-frank-signature-bank-collapse-warren-trump-00086765
"...Barney Frank blames crypto panic for his bank’s collapse. Elizabeth Warren blames Trump..."
Laughter ensues!
The lefty shit VendicarD would never accept reality as a director of intentions or actions; the asshole is far more interested in feezls, right, shit-bag?
Barney Frank could have stopped his bank from "serving the crypto industry".
In fact, the crypto industry would have been grateful to be left alone by people like Frank and the crony capitalist institutions that pay him.
I'm sure they would. Grifters usually don't like people looking too deeply into their schemes.
Barney Frank [D] US House of Representatives.