Fox's Excuses Reinforce Dominion's Defamation Case
Although Rupert Murdoch admits that Lou Dobbs and other hosts "endorsed" the "stolen election" narrative, Fox's lawyers insist that is not true.

Did Fox News actively promote the conspiracy theory that implicated Dominion Voting Systems in a "massive fraud" that supposedly denied Donald Trump a second term? Or did Fox merely report what the president and his representatives were saying?
Those questions are at the heart of the defamation lawsuit that Dominion filed against Fox in March 2021. For obvious reasons, Fox prefers the second interpretation. But in response to questions from Dominion's lawyers, Fox Corporation Chairman Rupert Murdoch conceded that several Fox News and Fox Business hosts had "endorsed" the unsubstantiated fraud allegations that Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell made on their shows after the 2020 presidential election.
During that deposition, which Dominion describes in a brief it filed this week, Murdoch nevertheless insisted that Fox as a whole had not endorsed Giuliani and Powell's wild charges. That distinction is problematic for a couple of reasons.
First, the fact that Fox News reporters were appropriately skeptical of those claims does not absolve Fox of liability for the credulous reception that Giuliani and Powell received on shows such as Lou Dobbs Tonight. Second, Dominion argues that Murdoch, who was privately calling their story "really crazy stuff," nevertheless decided not to intervene because he was worried about alienating Trump supporters.
Dominion says the responsibility for Giuliani and Powell's baseless accusations extends beyond them and the hosts who repeatedly gave them a forum and lent credence to their claims. It includes producers and executives who knew or should have known those claims were false and had the power to stop hosts like Lou Dobbs from continuing to promote them. They chose not to do so, Dominion argues, because they were afraid of losing viewers to right-wing competitors.
In its summary judgment brief, Fox does not seriously address the culpability of Murdoch or other executives. Instead it focuses on what Fox News and Fox Business hosts said on the air or on Twitter, arguing that "a reasonable viewer" would view those statements as summaries of unproven allegations rather than assertions of fact. Fox also cites questions and comments that supposedly show the hosts did not take the truth of Giuliani and Powell's claims for granted. These point-by-point rebuttals are so unpersuasive that Fox inadvertently reinforces Dominion's case.
Before reading Fox's brief, I was open to the argument that "Dominion has mischaracterized the record, cherry-picked quotes stripped of key context, and spilled considerable ink on facts that are irrelevant under black-letter principles of defamation law," as Fox claimed in an emailed statement to Reason. "The core of this case," Fox said, "remains about freedom of the press and freedom of speech, which are fundamental rights afforded by the Constitution and protected by New York Times v. Sullivan." But after reading Fox's brief last week, I was more persuaded than ever that Dominion's claims have merit.
Consider Fox's treatment of tweets in which Dobbs promoted Powell's appearances on his show. If you "read all about Dominion and Smartmatic voting companies," Dobbs declared in a November 14 tweet, "you'll soon understand how pervasive this Democrat electoral fraud is, and why there's no way in the world the 2020 Presidential election was either free or fair." In a December 10 tweet, Dobbs echoed Powell's claim that "the 2020 Election [was] a cyber Pearl Harbor," adding that "the leftwing establishment have aligned their forces to overthrow the United States government."
That tweet included an unattributed document averring that Dominion participated in that scheme. The document said the conspiracy also involved Smartmatic, Cuba, Venezuela, George Soros, the Chinese Communist Party, "the Democrat party," and "the American media," all of whom "aligned…against the will of the people of the US." That document, we can surmise, was prepared by Powell. But Dobbs did not indicate who wrote it, and his tweet unambiguously endorsed its claims.
Would a reasonable reader conclude that Dobbs himself was lodging these allegations? Or would a reasonable reader conclude that "these statements came from Powell, not Dobbs," as Fox maintains?
Fox also argues that "the forum of the statement—Twitter—reinforces the conclusion that Dobbs was not stating defamatory facts about Dominion," because "Twitter is not a natural setting in which a reasonable viewer would conclude that she is hearing actual facts about the plaintiff." The "common expectation" on Twitter, Fox says, "is that such statements 'will represent the viewpoints of their authors and, as such, contain considerable hyperbole, speculation, diversified forms of expression and opinion.'" Fox seems to be implying that tweets, by their very nature, cannot be defamatory. Twitter users would be ill-advised to act on that reading of the law.
During a November 12 interview with Giuliani, Dobbs described the alleged election conspiracy as "the end game to a four-and-a-half-year-long effort to overthrow the President of the United States." But according to Fox, "a reasonable viewer would have readily understood that the statement was Dobbs' opinion, and a tentative one at that." It was so tentative that Dobbs twice reiterated the same conclusion on his show the next day. That may have been "Dobbs' opinion," but it was based on the assumption that Giuliani and Powell were speaking the truth.
While interviewing Powell on November 24, Dobbs referred matter-of-factly to "the electoral fraud that's been perpetrated this year." He worried that "Americans have given no thought to electoral fraud that would be perpetrated through electronic voting," which he said involved Dominion, "at least in the suspicions of a lot of Americans."
Dobbs left no doubt that he believed those suspicions were well-founded. While interviewing Powell on December 10, he falsely asserted that "we have tremendous evidence already of fraud in this election." Afterward, he falsely claimed Powell had presented "groundbreaking new evidence indicating our Presidential election came under massive cyber-attack orchestrated with the help of Dominion, Smartmatic, and foreign adversaries."
Echoing Giuliani, Dobbs asserted that servers containing voting data were located in "foreign countries." He said that meant states "have no ability to audit meaningfully the votes that are cast because the servers are somewhere else and are considered proprietary." But as Dominion notes, "local jurisdictions administer elections locally and Dominion did not send or store votes overseas."
More generally, Dobbs applauded "President Trump's fight for a free and fair election," and said Trump had been "wronged mightily." He added: "Only an idiot would try to claim that there were no irregularities, that there were no anomalies, and that there were insufficient evidence and documents suggesting fraud and inexplicable mathematic ratios that tell us quickly there is something terrible afoot here….There is no election in our presidential history, our nation's history, in which there were so many anomalies, so many irregularities, and so much clearer evidence of fraud." Dobbs thanked Powell, whom he described as "one of the country's leading appellate attorneys," for doing "the Lord's work," which he claimed had uncovered "new information regarding electoral fraud in the radical left's efforts to steal an election."
I could go on, but you get the idea. According to Fox's lawyers, none of this amounted to endorsing Powell and Giuliani's allegations. Murdoch disagrees. When asked whether transcripts showed that Dobbs "had endorsed at times this false notion of a stolen election," Murdoch replied, "Oh, a lot." What about Fox News host Maria Bartiromo? "Yes," Murdoch said. "C'mon." He added that "I think" Jeanine Pirro also "endorsed" that "false notion," while Sean Hannity—who would later say he "did not believe" Powell's claims "for a second"—did so "a bit."
What about Fox's argument that Dobbs et al. pushed back against Powell and Giuliani's claims, asking them what evidence they had to support them? The hosts did ask whether Powell and Giuliani would be able to muster enough evidence and present it in court (which they never did) before the Electoral College deadlines. But those inquiries were framed as questions about timing rather than questions about the veracity of the allegations.
Fox's description of this supposed pushback is highly misleading. On his November 13 show, for example, Dobbs mentioned that the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) "says the November 3rd election was the most secure in American history." Fox presents that statement as evidence that Dobbs "cast doubt on the claims" that Giuliani and Powell were making. It neglects to mention that his statement was accompanied by a graphic that said "CISA IGNORES VOTER FRAUD."
Dobbs was similarly contemptuous of other government agencies that found no support for the claims he was promoting. The Justice Department is "trying to blind us to what is going on," Dobbs warned on his November 16 show. "We cannot trust the Justice Department, the FBI, or any intelligence agency," he told viewers on November 30. "Let me be straightforward with you. I had damn sight rather have Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani on the case than [FBI Director] Christopher Wray and the fools, the corrupt fools, that lead the FBI any day."
Behind the scenes, meanwhile, Fox executives and producers had considerably less faith in Powell and Giuliani. On November 7, Murdoch told Col Allan, then editor in chief of the New York Post, that he "just saw a bit of Rudy ranting." Murdoch called Giuliani "a terrible influence on Donald." Allan agreed that Giuliani seemed "unhinged," adding that he "has been for a while" and "I think booze has got him."
Dobbs described Giuliani and Powell's bizarre November 19 press conference as a "powerful" presentation of "powerful charges." Murdoch offered a different assessment. He told Fox News CEO Suzanne Scott it was "terrible stuff" that was "damaging everybody" and "probably hurting us too." In an email to News Corporation CEO Robert Thomson, Murdoch called Giuliani's claims "really crazy stuff." In a November 23 message to a former Fox executive, Murdoch expressed satisfaction that Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who had publicly noted Powell's failure to back her claims with evidence, had "called out that crazy would be lawyer."
Fox Corporation Senior Vice President Raj Shah took the same view. In a deposition, he said he was skeptical of the "stolen election" claims from the beginning. He called Giuliani and Powell's November 19 presentation a "crazy fucking presser" and described Powell as "nuts." In a November 21 message to a producer on Carlson's show, Shah called Powell's fantasy "totally insane" and "MIND BLOWINGLY NUTS."
In a November 16 text to colleagues, John Fawcett, an associate producer for Lou Dobbs Tonight, texted colleagues that Powell seemed to be "doing lsd and cocaine and heroin and shrooms." In a November 22 text exchange with Dobbs, Fawcett noted that the Trump campaign, by disassociating itself from Powell, seemed to be "calling bullshit" on her. Fawcett suggested that Powell "could be losing her mind," noting that her story "doesn't make sense" and adding, "I just don't think she is verifying anything she is saying."
Former House Speaker Paul Ryan, a member of Fox Corporation's board, warned Murdoch and his son Lachlan, the company's CEO, about the dangers of lending credence to the stolen-election narrative. "We are entering a truly bizarre phase of this where [Trump] has actually convinced himself of this farce and will do more bizarre things to delegitimize the election," Ryan said in a December 6 text. "I see this as a key inflection point for Fox, where the right thing and the smart business thing to do line up nicely."
Dobbs nevertheless continued to promote Powell, who appeared yet again on his show four days later. As late as January 26, 2021, Carlson provided a forum for My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell, who regurgitated Powell's claims. Carlson said he did not anticipate that, because Lindell was supposed to discuss "cancel culture." But in a deposition, Rupert Murdoch conceded that it was "wrong for Tucker to host Mike Lindell to repeat those allegations against Dominion" if Carlson did not challenge them. Carlson, despite his previous skepticism about Powell's claims, notably failed to do that.
Lindell said "we have all the evidence" to show Dominion's complicity in election fraud and complained that "they just say, 'Oh, you're wrong.'" Instead of asking Lindell to elaborate on that "evidence," Carlson sympathized with his complaint. "They're not making conspiracy theories go away by doing that," Carlson said. "You…don't make people kind of calm down and get reasonable and moderate by censoring them. You make them get crazier, of course. This is…ridiculous."
That comment, Fox argues, implied skepticism by referring to "conspiracy theories." Dominion argues that "a regular viewer of Carlson's would likely have thought Carlson changed his mind on the subject, given how differently he treated Lindell than he had treated Powell."
Admittedly, this is a closer call than Dobbs' explicit embrace of Powell's tall tale. But by this point, Dominion argues, Fox should have known better than to put someone like Lindell on the air. Even two months earlier, Dominion says, it was abundantly clear that Giuliani and Powell were spouting nonsense, as Murdoch himself recognized shortly after the election. Murdoch conceded that he "could have" told Scott to stop featuring Giuliani and Powell, "but I didn't."
Why not? Dominion tells a plausible story, backed by internal communications, that Fox continued to host "crazy" conspiracy theorists because it had a financial interest in doing so. Viewers were angry after Fox News called Arizona for Trump, and executives were alarmed by their disenchantment and their flight to Newscom and One America News Network. In short, Dominion says, Fox favored profits over truth.
Dominion has to prove by "clear and convincing evidence" that Fox either knowingly or recklessly promoted damaging lies about the company. While that's a very tough test, Fox's lame excuses provide reason to believe that Dominion can meet it.
Editor's Note: As of February 29, 2024, commenting privileges on reason.com posts are limited to Reason Plus subscribers. Past commenters are grandfathered in for a temporary period. Subscribe here to preserve your ability to comment. Your Reason Plus subscription also gives you an ad-free version of reason.com, along with full access to the digital edition and archives of Reason magazine. We request that comments be civil and on-topic. We do not moderate or assume any responsibility for comments, which are owned by the readers who post them. Comments do not represent the views of reason.com or Reason Foundation. We reserve the right to delete any comment and ban commenters for any reason at any time. Comments may only be edited within 5 minutes of posting. Report abuses.
Please
to post comments
I hope when the massive fraud of 2020 is eventually exposed, and all the participants, including Dominion, are indicted, that the Reason Foundation fires your ass and sues Koch for all this gaslighting, Jacob.
The massive fraud of 2020 will, for SURE, eventually be exposed by the Lizard People! And Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer will FINALLY be vindicated! All Hail Marxist Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer!!!!! She TOLD us so!
https://www.insider.com/lizard-people-conspiracy-theory-origin-nashville-bomber-qanon-2021-1
The bizarre origins of the lizard-people conspiracy theory embraced by the Nashville bomber, and how it's related to QAnon
QAnon is a 4chan meme that the NYT's uses to scare wine moms, you gullible fuck. Talk about spouting conspiracy theories.
Google is by and by paying $27485 to $29658 consistently for taking a shot at the web from home. I have joined this action 2 months back and I have earned $31547 in my first month from this action. I can say my life is improved completely! Take a gander at it what I do.....
For more detail visit the given link..........>>> http://Www.jobsrevenue.com
LMAO
Sounds like when my dad called to tell me to empty my bank account and keep an eye on the news for when Trump arrests all of Hillary’s supporters.
His dementia has become more apparent in recent months.
Quit sockpuppeting, Shrike, you cheap fuck.
And no, Biden isn't your dad.
Clearly Fox did not actively promote the steal, they covered it. Even if they did so what, state media has promoted conspiracies for over seven years. Give me a fucking break.
●US Dollar Rain Earns upto $550 to $750 per day by google fantastic job oppertunity provide for our community pepoles who,s already using facebook to earn money 85000$ every month and more through facebook and google new project to create money at home withen few hours.Everybody can get this job now and start earning online by just open this link and then go through instructions to get started..........
See this article for more information————————>>>http://www.dailypro7.com
Sorry, one has to be really dumb, deaf, and blind to not think our 2020 elections were not fair. There were a LOT of shenanigans going on. And Biden received the most votes in the history of the United State? Really? Yeah, OK then...
so jelly of Lou ...
Glad reason is pro defamation suits now.
https://reason.com/2020/03/05/the-trump-campaign-sues-another-newspaper/
Also..
https://justthenews.com/government/courts-law/dominion-employee-admits-fox-news-lawsuit-machines-have-bug-causing-incorrect
Don’t forget Reason’s Desantis hates the 1A and will weaken defamation laws screed.
https://reason.com/2023/02/22/ron-desantis-wants-to-rewrite-defamation-law/
'Did Fox News actively promote the conspiracy theory that implicated Dominion Voting Systems in a "massive fraud" that supposedly denied Donald Trump a second term? Or did Fox merely report what the president and his representatives were saying?'
I dunno. Did The NY Times actively promote the conspiracy theory that the US was founded to promote and protect slavery in a "massive fraud" that seeks to overthrow the government and transfer wealth and power to cultural Marxists?
Oh, come on now E-bHS, according to Tony there is no such thing as cultural Marxism.
Great article, Mike. I appreciate your work, I'm now creating over $35,400 dollars each month simply by doing a simple job online! I do know You currently making a lot of greenbacks online from $28,400 dollars, its simple online operating jobs.
.
.
Just open the link——————————————>>> http://Www.JobsRevenue.Com
His Marxist professor told him so.
Did ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, and every news paper in the US defame Trump for claiming, without evidence, he colluded with Russia to steal an election and could prove it if only they had his tax returns? And then did the Democrats violate about a dozen privacy laws to get said returns and release them to the media?
Public figure!!!! They didn't know absolutely it was bullshit!!! Ignore Dominion is a public company that has public statements. Also ignore they have never given their source code or depositions prior but Fox knew for a fact they were spreading lies!!!
It is amazing watching reason take so many competing stances depending on who it harms.
There's plenty of evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election.
It's just that when that evidence came out in black and white, FOX News worked overtime to lie the facts out of you.
"There’s plenty of evidence"
Plenty being roughly none.
"It’s just that when that evidence came out in black and white, FOX News worked overtime to lie the facts out of you."
The source for the claims (a Russian national, mind you, so the only candidate using Russians to try and overturn the election was Hillary) said he made it up.
"There’s plenty of evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to win the election."
One.
Just give us one example of "evidence" that didn't end up being fraudulent or thoroughly discredited, you nutty cultist.
You don't even have to give us a citation, just name an example.
This is how you know it's a religion for Tony. Despite all the actual evidence to the contrary, he still has to believe. It's become part of his identity.
I gave two examples, see below. Neither of those have been discredited. Now, it's possible Papadopoulos was making stuff up, but he also ended up being right. Perhaps like Roger Stone, he just made good guesses. (***eye roll***). Similarly, the Don Jr. email and meeting with the Russian agent may not have resulted in collusion, but it definitely shows he was eager to collude and a Russian government official stated Russia was trying to help them (i.e. collude). What we have is the testimony of four interested parties saying that, despite the emails of Russia offering dirt and Don Jr. eagerly asking for it, in the end they only talked about adoptions. Which is just to say, we can't prove that useful information wasn't passed from the agent to the Trump team, but only the most gullible would take the word of the four people accused of a crime as absolute proof that they didn't commit the crime, especially when they'd already emailed that they happily would accept the "help" from Russia.
The "no evidence" meme is either spread out of ignorance, utter stupidity, or in malicious disregard of the known facts. There is evidence, just not enough to prosecute.
Hahahahahahahaha
You and shrike hate watch more Fox News than all of the other commenters combined.
Hahahahahahahaha
You realize there definitely is evidence. It is inconclusive, but there is definitely evidence.
1. A member of Trump's campaign team (Papadopoulos) bragged to a foreign intelligence agent that Russia had "thousands of emails" that could be damaging to Hillary. The foreign intelligence agent informed the FBI of this conversation after Wikileaks leaked the hacked DNC emails. (This is evidence that the Trump campaign knew from a Russian agent that the DNC had been hacked and, moreover, the evidence is that Russia did the hacking, which, obviously, suggests at least an attempt by Russia to help the Trump campaign, i.e., collude with them.)
2. Don Jr. received an email from a Russian government official offering dirt on Hillary, saying: “This is obviously very high level and sensitive information but is part of Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump.”
Don Jr. replied within minutes: “If it’s what you say I love it especially later in the summer.”
He then agreed to a meeting at Trump Tower with participants to include himself, convicted felon Paul Manafort (Trump's then campaign manager), Jared Kushner (who has a billion dollar deal with the Saudis thanks to the personal intervention of MBS after Kushner personally intervened as a government official on MBS's behalf), and a known Russian intelligence agent.
Now, that isn't proof that they colluded, but it is certainly evidence. All participants swear that, notwithstanding the prior emails promising dirt and noting Russia was trying to help the Trump campaign, they only talked about adoption policy.
And do you believe that Bill Clinton and Loretta Lynch only talked about their kids on that famous visit on a plane sitting on the tarmac? Maybe that is all they talked about, but it looks fishy which is why Lynch recused herself from any further involvement in the Hillary email investigation. You must concede three top people of a presidential campaign meeting with a Russian intelligence agent after being promised dirt on an opposing camp and being told Russia wanted to help them looks pretty fishy.
And those are just two examples. There is evidence of collusion. In fact, it's well-settled that Russia did help the Trump campaign. The second example above shows that the Trump campaign was willing to receive that help. But there is no clear evidence that they were actually able to connect to coordinate, despite both reaching out for that purpose. Despite the lack of proof, it still looks like approximately even odds.
There wasn't, and isn't, sufficient evidence to prosecute. But "insufficient evidence to prosecute" and "no evidence" are two very, very different things.
Seriously? And you’re a lawyer? Hunter Biden flew with his father the VP on 411 flights to Ukraine, Moscow, Beijing, etc. Why? To grift. Zuckerberg spent $500 million on ballot harvesting. And your threadbare “emails and phone calls” were investigated by Mueller to the tune of 500 witnesses, $32 million, and 675 days and found nothing. Russia has an economy smaller than Italy’s and “Russia Russia Russia” is a joke. Hillary, on the other hand, did hire some Russian spies, did pay for the Steele Dossier, and did start a Russia hoax. That’s all verified. From John Brennan, CIA Director: Brennan briefed Obama on “alleged approval by Hillary Clinton on July 28 of a proposal from one of her foreign policy advisors to vilify Donald Trump by stirring up a scandal claiming interference by Russian security services.”
"I dunno. Did The NY Times actively promote the conspiracy theory that the US was founded to promote and protect slavery in a “massive fraud” that seeks to overthrow the government and transfer wealth and power to cultural Marxists?..."
Include MSNBC, CNN, CBS DOJ/Twitter and others; problem is voters have no standing.
This is not case regarding spreading lies, it's a case where the (supposed) victim can make a successful claim of standing.
There it is.
Did Rachel Maddow "endorse" the ridiculous dossier and put every whack job Russia collusion conspiracy theorist on her show? Sure looks that way. Did Robbie Soave at Reason magazine "endorse" the fantastic claims of Blaisey Ford meant to defame Kavanaugh? Sure looked that way at the time. Did Reason "endorse" social media censorship even when the Biden regime announced FROM THE FUCKING WHITE HOUSE that they were behind it.? All in the public record. So Sullivan doesn't apply why again? Because the company that runs elections all over the country is not a public figure? TDS has destroyed you Jacob. Take a month off. Find an island somewhere. Eat a bunch of psychedelics. Engage in some self reflection.
Dominion is a public company with many public statements who has been known for a decade. So they are private. Sullum probably.
It's not just endorsement of something, it's endorsement while knowing that what you are endorsing is false. This is usually hard to prove, but in this case, there are text messages from the Fox producers and the on-air people stating that they knew it was false.
Exactly this.
No one "knows" anything is false about the 2020 election (156 million votes!) ten minutes after it's over. They have opinions. Period. To this day, we don't "know" anything about the 2020 election except that the MSM said it was the most secure election in US history five minutes after it was called for Biden. I'm guessing if the count had fallen the other way (not that it ever was going to) it would not be called the most secure election in US history. Dominion is owned by Soros hedge fund ideologues who took the company private after buying it in 2018 (during Trump's presidency) and who claim their software and machines have to be kept secret for security purposes. LOLOLOL
I remodelled $700 per day exploitation my mobile partly time. I recently got my fifth bank check of $19632 and every one i used to be doing is to repeat and paste work online. This home work makes Pine Tree State able to generate more money daily simply straightforward to try and do work and regular financial gain from this are simply superb.
Here what i’m doing. strive currently..................>>> http://www.jobsrevenue.com
Dominion...
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/dominion
"Definition
dominion
noun
do·min·ion də-ˈmi-nyən
1
: DOMAIN
2
law : supreme authority : SOVEREIGNTY
having dominion over the natural world
3
dominions plural, Christianity : an order of angels
see CELESTIAL HIERARCHY
4
often capitalized government : a self-governing nation of the Commonwealth of Nations other than the United Kingdom that acknowledges the British monarch as chief of state
5
law : absolute ownership"
Even the loyal Trump stooges at Fox News didn't believe Fatass Donnie's election fraud lies.
So much sock usage today shrike.
https://twitter.com/The_Real_Fly/status/1631073052292272131?t=_01Bbr8ejvQpD_oH2V5UHQ&s=19
Secretary of Treasury, Janet Yellen, claims that Americans have a “duty” to defend Ukraine’s borders.
I am amazed at our obligations to protect all borders except our own.
If I interviewed sullum my first question would be “what does it feel like waking up every day knowing the world would be better if you committed suicide?”
To quote Eric coomer "our shit is riddled with bugs" and later says it led to inaccurate counts. If you don't know who that is do your own homework you trash
Did some Google-fu. His Facebook post about unfriending him reads like every other leftist fuck from 2016 on.
Trump clearly broke these people beyond any hope of repair.
I used to consider him one of the more consistent and fearless writers at Reason. He fell hard.
I don’t say that because I disagree with him. It’s the way he’s doing it. Just total hack blatant agenda, consistency with facts and logic be damned. Near zero attempt to converse with the actual genuine concerns of the other side. Screw being convincing to anyone outside cult.
The best scenario is that he’s just doing it for hate clicks. Still sad.
https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1631114493634723841?t=lTsr6VzLvzYN_ini21lxwg&s=19
It will soon be impossible for scientists who don't embrace Marxism to get jobs as the NIH is demanding job applicants sign diversity statements stating their loyalty to the tenants of DEI.
[Link]
https://twitter.com/JohnDSailer/status/1631055936709185538?t=V9N96kAMgFKssMUvsWvt3g&s=19
NEW: The NIH is spending nearly a quarter of a billion dollars to promote the use of diversity statements in faculty hiring.
Through public records requests, I’ve acquired the DEI statement rubrics used for two NIH-funded faculty hiring programs.
In 2020, the NIH created a program designed to give 12 institutions $241 million for DEI-focused faculty hiring.
To be hired through the program, candidates must submit a diversity statement and demonstrate “a strong commitment to promoting diversity and inclusive excellence.”
Through records requests, I have acquired the rubrics for evaluating diversity statements used by the NIH-funded programs at the University of South Carolina and the University of New Mexico.
The rubrics are nearly identical. Here's the beginning of South Carolina's.
The rubrics punish candidates who espouse race neutrality.
They dictate a low score for anyone who states an “intention to ignore the varying backgrounds of their students and ‘treat everyone the same.’”
Applicants can’t merely focus on viewpoint diversity. This too runs afoul of the rubrics.
They mandate a low score for any candidate who defines diversity “only in terms of different areas of study or different nationalities but doesn’t mention gender or ethnicity/race.”
The NIH’s push is having an effect even on institutions that haven’t won this grant money.
The UMASS Chan Medical School is engaged in DEI-focused hiring initiatives, explicitly following the NIH’s example. I have also acquired its rubric. Note the similarities.
At best, these federally-funded diversity statement requirements prompt institutions to prioritize trivialities when hiring scholars and scientists. At worst, they threaten academic freedom.
That, after all, is why the @nasorg, @TheFIREorg, and @AFA_Alliance have called for an end to the practice of required diversity statements.
But as long as they carry the imprimatur of the federal government, many institutions will continue to embrace them.
[Link]
Didn't Biden just sign an executive order (which got zero media coverage) to make all federal departments use DIE metrics in their hiring?
Correct.
Totally not a dictator or a fascist though.
“Libertarians” apparently just love using proprietary, closed source software for elections and jump for joy at anybody questioning that practice getting destroyed in the courts.
… while at the same time wanting to exempt Google and Facebook from even the possibility of getting sued.
Utterly reprehensible.
The more years you have invested into not realizing that FOX News lies to you every day, the less able your brain will be able to admit it. The brain doesn't see its job as thinking rationally. It sees its job as making you feel good about yourself.
This is why cults tend to end in catastrophic self-destruction. Stupid people would rather die than face the shame of being so wrong about so much.
I wonder what's gonna happen to the American right wing should this all come crashing down. The suspense is terrible. I hope it will last.
All media lie to us every day. That's why smart people use their heads.
Yeah, Tony, that's you.
The scarecrow is not self-aware.
"If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."
-Mark Twain
The job of news is to sell advertising, not to tell the truth. Because CNN's audience wants to believe Trump stole the election, then that's what CNN is going to tell them. Similarly because FOX's audience wants to believe the election was stolen from Trump, that's what FOX is going to tell them.
Bingo. It's a feature, not a bug. This lawsuit is nonsense.
I wonder if there’s any private messages between CNN or MSNBC hosts saying they don’t believe the Russia! claims.
Oh, who am I kidding, of course there aren’t.
Lou Dobbs!
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! AHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!
AHAHAHAHAHAAAAHAWHAHA! HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! HAHAHAHA!!!1
AAAAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA!!!!
"He also violated the First Amendment."
How????????????????????
Read it. It's a doosey, from one of the nation's foremost *checks notes* legal minds.
That is impressive. Media companies never ASK for the footage for years so FNC has violated the Constitution by providing it to one outlet who did?
Time has caught up with the election fraud claims that are following fast. Fox News people did not believe what they were telling their viewers, the AZ attorney general suppressed reports the election had no fraud, Trump campaign investigators could find no fraud. All there is left is dead enders for whom election fraud is an article of faith rather than something having proof.
A lack of evidence is proof of a conspiracy. Besides, they were right about The Great Twitter Conspiracy. So in their minds they're totally vindicated, and every other conspiracy is also true. Especially The Great Steal.
How exactly is one supposed to collect evidence, say of non-matching signatures, if you can’t even verify chain of custody or one (if not both) of the documents is destroyed in direct contravention of the law?
It's funny how so many people at the centre of all these fraud allegations privately concede that there was little or no fraud, while their useful idiots, cerebrums cleansed with the finest detergents, continue to insist that there was yuge fraud.
The feel that there was fraud, and no amount of evidence can change what they feel.
The election results were anomalous.
Not really. An unpopular, incompetent President failed to be re-elected. Seem straightforward.
Remond me again who won Florida, Iowa, and Ohio in 2020?
Who gained 10 million votes over 2016. Why was a water main break faked in Georgia?
Higher registration, higher turnout, population growth. Do the maths.
Wait, what? Oh, you said re-elected.
Not really.
Oh no, really.
A person who did not campaign, who won fewer counties that the loser in the previous election somehow got more votes than his opponent--who got more votes than anyone ever had before him-- without the necessary population shift to those few counties that he actually won.
Or the commensurate spike in voter registration that would have had to have happened to get that many votes from so few counties.
As straightforward as a spring.
So you refuse to do the maths, instead resorting to, basically, argument from personal incredulity.
Not at all.
anomalous
ə-nŏm′ə-ləs
adjective
Deviating from the normal or common order, form, or rule.
Equivocal, as in classification or nature.
Deviating from a general rule, method, or analogy; abnormal; irregular.
There were plenty of anomalies. Who are you trying to fool?
First the results were consistent with the circumstance at the time of the election. See Jimmy Carter and George Bush for similar results. Unpopular President coupled with a crisis yield failure to be re-elected.
As to anomalies, has anyone looked at other states or other years? Can you or anyone say there were more in 2020 than we might see any other year. If you have that study please cite it for us.
If it's ok to believe Trump colluded with Russia, was peed on by a hooker, Hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation, and the COVID lab leak theory was debunked, you can't really have much of a problem with someone believing the election was stolen, even if it wasn't true.
The problem with FOX News is not that it has an explicit bias. That's actually a good thing. The Lefty Media should admit theirs as well.
No, the problem is that FOX News thinks that just because Lefty Media has a bias, that they are justified in making shit up. Report the facts, put your own spin on it if you want, but don't make shit up and lie about it. Doesn't matter if the "other side" is perceived to be telling lies, because two lies do NOT make the truth.
Journalism without at least the effort to find the facts is useless. Fuck the narrative, I won't to know what happened in the world when I watch the news. I don't get that when I watch either MSNBC or FOX News.
The media has done a better job of dividing and conquering than any political outfit ever could.
Political outfits are using the media to divide.
Isn't it funny how believing a lie is wrong if the lie is not party approved?
Isn't funny how believing a lie is required if the lie is party approved?
Fuck the narrative, I won’t to know what happened in the world when I watch the news.
That's what the Daily Mail is for.
So… Questioning Election Integrity = Defamation now?
Sounds a lot like Gangland politics to me.
How about Dominion prove beyond a reasonable doubt that it was secure; For F’Sakes – that’s there F’En job. They pretty much fumbled that task by having during-vote IP communications with China and mid-election firmware updates. They were either “Hacked” or they violated the election by mid-election “Updates”. Now either every news source reporting that information is lying or Dominion lacks a foundation to claim it was provably secure.
Just stamp a big fat "never-mind" on the in-person to machine vote mis-matches.
It wasn't defamation in 2000 or 2016.
Funny. I thought Reason's stand was that it was totally out of line and an egregious violation of libertarian principle to hold a private company liable for speech they provide a platform for. I mean, applying that to social media might be a "Bill of Rights of the Internet". Or are we to conclude that the Reason staff is more concerned with principals than principles? Because, after all, the state providing selective legal protections to provide advantage to favored players is what libertarianism is all about.
Lou Dobbs is a true believer. He's completely nuts.
But what's worse is the other hosts who know the story if phony, yet pushed it on air.
And what is even worse is that Fox viewers know this and don't care. They enjoy being lied to , apparently.
Yeah, CNN and MSNBC are the purveyors of truth, except for:
Russiagate,
Bountygate,
DC cathedral riot was a photo op
pee tape
find the fraud
capitol police man died from blow to head with a fire extinguisher
Trump voiced support for Neo-Nazi
Hunter Biden’s laptop is fake
Hunter Biden’s laptop is Russian disinformation
Trump is getting rich from being the President.
and that doesn't even include their sins of omission. Like Trump donated his Presidential salary and foriegn profits to the Federal government.
need i go on?
And lets not forget CNN's scandals, sex scandals, assault scandals, covering for relative scandal, insulting women over the age for forty, and those include the management and on air talent. Yeah, that is who you look to for the truth!
"Fox Corporation Chairman Rupert Murdoch conceded that several Fox News and Fox Business hosts had "endorsed" the unsubstantiated fraud allegations that Trump lawyers Rudy Giuliani and Sidney Powell made on their shows after the 2020 presidential election."
I did not hear Murdoch do this. I heard him say that Fox people had "endorsed" only the stolen election theory. If Fox people did indeed endorse Powell's and Giuliani's Dominion conspiracy theory, then those people are legitimate parties to this defamation, and they should be required to pay the damages suffered by Dominion. But I did not hear any such statement by Murdoch, nor have I heard any such confession from Fox.
Anti-Foxers are getting ahead of their skis. Turning a simple statement into a fantasy exaggeration has always been standard practice by Rachel Maddow and the crew at MSNBC. If the malice barrier falls because of that, the 1st Amendment will return to its mangled status in 1961. And someone in the Trump World may also get the idea that the Steele Dossier was clearly challenged and debunked defamation that other news media knowingly continued to repeat.
That's right. What's happening here is that Reason and other media actors are conflating the opinions Fox News employees had about some of the Dominion claims (by Giuliani and Powell) to the entirety of their coverage of all Trump/GOP/MAGA election fraud claims.
I wonder whether there's research into this:
"As the electorate becomes fairly evenly split between two parties, the vitriol in public "debate" increases."
MAN THE BARRICADES!!! The Satanic witches and Lizard People have stolen Trump’s erection; OUR erections!!! Our contaminated erections and formerly-pure essences are now being ground up into spamburger and are being force-fed to the children by Satanic groomers, who will turn the children into transsexual trannies from Transsexual Transylvania, and FORCE then to engorge in utterly demonic “Drag Queen Story Hours”!!!! Won’t someone PLEASE think of the children?!?!?
#MeInTheAss’CauseI’maGullibleLowBrowBlowHardConTard
Jesus H, you and Libertarianmasturbator take one creative writing class in college and it's off the nuthouse races. Can't you guys just post like normal people? You with your mammary-necrophilia-Fuhrer, and him with his girl-bullying. You guys come off as absolute lunatics. Are you a tranny that's been mistreated? because that's all you seem to post about. Really though, you are nuttier squirrel shit. I hear they are doing wonders with psychotropic drugs these days, give them a try what have got to lose.
"Mentally ill" or “insane”, my ass! Whoever disagrees with totalitarians is "mentally ill"! That makes YOU just like the communist totalitarian assholes of the USSR who used psychiatry to punish political dissidents, asshole!
All of those who disagree with MEEEE are… Mentally ILL!!! YES, this! Good authoritarians KNOW this already!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union#:~:text=During%20the%20leadership%20of%20General,that%20contradicted%20the%20official%20dogma.
All of the GOOD totalitarians KNOW that those who oppose totalitarianism are mentally ill, for sure!!!
#BeenTrumpledUnderfootForFarTooLong
Please bear in mind that SQRLSY
likes to be on acid while a shock baton is rammed up his ass.
Go on...
I doubt it; pretty sure abysmal stupidity is both necessary and sufficient to explain the spastic asshole.