This Principal Investigated a Sexting Incident. So the Police Charged Him With Possessing Child Porn.
Bradley Bass is facing 12 years in prison, despite the fact that he was doing his job as a school administrator.

A Brush, Colorado, man is facing 12 years in prison for possessing child pornography. Even more fraught is that no one, including the government, thinks he had child pornography.
At least not in any traditional sense. Bradley Bass allegedly ran afoul of state law when he was found with explicit images of a local girl. But the 32-year-old high school principal came to have those photos in the course of a school sexting investigation carried out as a part of his job. The girl says she isn't a victim of Bass' and both she and her parents have pled with law enforcement to stop the prosecution.
Those requests have fallen on deaf ears. The law criminalizes possessing such photos, even if someone comes to have them while conducting a probe. There is one notable exception, however: "peace officers or court personnel in the performance of their official duties." In other words, when law enforcement carries out such an investigation, it's OK. When Bass carried out a similar investigation, he was hit with the potential of more than a decade behind bars, sex offender status, and the loss of his kids and job.
Bass' story is a case study in how such broad laws can be weaponized arbitrarily. Until September, he was not the only one in his unenviable position: The government charged Scott Hodgson, another administrator in Brush, with eight counts of child pornography for his part in the same investigation. Thirteenth Judicial District Judge Charles Hobbs dismissed those charges in September.
"Obviously, the manner in which the evidence was preserved, while technically complying with the school policy, appears to have violated state law," he said, according to The Colorado Sun.
But Bass, who the government views as the primary culprit, has not been so fortunate. His case has been the subject of several hearings in the same judicial district, one of which is taking place today, with law enforcement insisting that prosecuting the case is about community safety. "These images were illegally collected by Bass, then uploaded to the school's computer network, when the school conducted an in-house investigation of sexting between juveniles," the Brush Police Department said in a statement in June, shortly after the men were arrested. "Our goal, in this case, and every other like it, is to contain and stop the spread of such images so that the victimization of our precious children stops."
The police did not need to stop the spread of the images, because they weren't spreading. In April, Bass received a tip about student sexting; an investigation found explicit photos sent to several schoolchildren. Those images were saved on Snapchat, an app where images typically disappear after they're sent. Bass took photos of the kids' phones with his work device, reports the Sun, and then uploaded them to a server maintained by the school. It did not violate school policy to do so in the course of such a probe.
In what is perhaps a tacit admission of the weakness of its case, law enforcement has offered one alternative: Bass can plead guilty to obstructing justice, a much lesser charge than the ones he's currently facing. That's hard to swallow, though, when you know you didn't do anything wrong.
"The plea they're offering potentially lets me stay as a husband and a dad, and to me those are the biggest priorities in my life," he said. "I basically need to choose: Do I want to clear my name and risk losing my entire life, or do I want to not clear my name but not lose my life?"
It's a ridiculous question. And it's one that many defendants before have had to ask themselves, thanks to a plea bargaining system that allows prosecutors to overcharge and coerce people out of exercising their constitutional right to trial. Take our deal and have a misdemeanor conviction. Refuse, and go to prison for years, lose your life, lose time with your kids.
The delta between those two options is wide for a reason. It's not that prosecutors actually think Bass needs to go to prison for more than a decade; they also almost certainly don't believe he needs to be branded a lifelong sex offender. If they believed those things, they wouldn't offer the deal. But charging him the way they've done gives them an almost laughable amount of leverage in securing a conviction against someone whose own victim says he was just doing his job.
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At least not in any traditional sense. Bradley Bass allegedly ran afoul of state law when he was found with explicit images of a local girl. But the 32-year-old high school principal came to have those photos in the course of a school sexting investigation carried out as a part of his job. The girl says she isn't a victim of Bass' and both she and her parents have pled with law enforcement to stop the prosecution.
Hey girl, send me them pics so I can uhh, investigate that ass.
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Hey, all he had to do was turn the pics over to the cops, and they'd be ruining the kids' lives instead of his!
Honestly, obsessing over nekkid teenagers seems either fully bipartisan or more of a right wing thing.
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[October, 2011]
Protesters gained entrance to the Hart Senate office building's atrium and dropped two banners, one reading "End War Now" and the other "People for the People."
NBC News reports as soon as demonstrators unfurled their signs, Capitol Police placed them under arrest. At least six have been arrested for unlawful conduct - demonstrating. Dozens of other demonstrators ran through the building's upper levels chanting and waving smaller signs.
The offices of Democratic senators Dianne Feinstein and Harry Reid are located inside the Hart building, as well as Republican Marco Rubio.
The political protests rumble into a second week in the nation's capital. The demonstrations, smaller in size than the Occupy Wall Street protest in New York City, have for the most part been restrained and peaceful. On Saturday, one demonstrator was arrested after a group attempted to enter the Smithsonian Air and Space museum. Guards repelled the demonstrators with pepper spray, and the museum shut down early.
[January, 2016]
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Black-clad activists among hundreds of demonstrators protesting Donald Trump’s swearing-in on Friday clashed with police a few blocks from the White House, in an outburst of violence rare for an inauguration.
At least 217 people were arrested in the melees, police said.
The burst of civil disorder followed a fierce presidential campaign that ended in a stunning victory for Republican Trump over Democrat Hillary Clinton on Nov. 8 and left the country divided.
Many of Trump’s supporters traveled to Washington to cheer their new president on Inauguration Day. Tens of thousands of detractors are expected to march peacefully on Saturday.
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People merely peacefully "parading" aren't the ones getting arrested.
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You don't pick up a lost gun to turn it in. You don't take a lost child by the hand to lead her to safety. You don't investigate child pornography. If only Jim Croce were alive to write a song.
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I'm in a job in which I occasionally find illegal drugs or paraphernalia. They go straight to the nearest trash can. No way am I going to trust the police by turning them in.
For the same reason, sadly, I would never assist a child in distress. I can report the situation, but they're on their own until the authorities arrive.
My father passed in 2021. We were clearing stuff out and found a lot of prescriptions. Called the pharmacy on the label to ask for guidance with disposal. They said take drugs to the cops. Everything went down the drain. No way I'm going to the cops with a garbage bag of script bottles.
Yup. The less contact I have with the coppers the less chance I'll stumble across a "Heee Roe" copper wanting to make hero out of his worthless self.
No evidence, no crime.
we still have Lou Reed maybe he can write it up.
Hate to break it to you, but we don't still have Lou.
It would probably take Croce Five Short Minutes to write it.
You don’t complain to school authorities when you’ve been raped.
Or at least shouldn’t.
I’m sorry, what was that question again? It’s ok for the principal to investigate a crime? We already know rape should be investigated by colleges. How about murder? Theft? Assault?
Reason writers should be well aware that one of the defining characteristics of a State judicial system is State investigation and prosecution of crimes to take the personal motive out of it, to prevent revenge clouding judgment and starting feuds. You’ve certainly written a few articles about the stupidity of colleges reserving for themselves the right to investigate and prosecute rape, that it ought to be left to cops, like all other crimes against society.
And now you think it’s ok for a principal to claim to investigate child porn?
Make up your mind.
ETA "you" refers to Reason writers.
No one was raped.
Some students sent nude pictures to each other. A parent complained to the school cop, but the cop was working night shift for the city at the time and didn't get the message until a few weeks later. The parent didn't get any response immediately so she went to the principal, who then started searching kids' phones and found the dirty pictures.
Duh. Reading miscomprehension strong with you? Can't read between the lines? Not up on current news?
Colleges have been handling rapes for years.
Enlightened now? No? Try reading the other comments about lost guns and lost children.
Otherwise just buzz off until you grow up.
Does West Point investigate rape?
No rapes have ever occurred at West Point, so no. And if one did occur, it still wouldn't occur. /s
I do think this very much a fair question.
Or maybe the principal knew what can happen when you involve law enforcement in cases like this. Hey, he should've just handed the pics over to the cops, so they could ruin the kids' lives instead of his!
Paul Clarke, 27, a veteran, thought that he was doing the right thing when he found a shotgun in his garden. He took the shotgun to the police station and was immediately arrested for possession of a firearm without permit and criminally charged — an offense that brings five years imprisonment. Prosecutor Brian Stalk insisted that this is a strict liability offense and his intent to help police does not matter — he is a menace to society as defined under the criminal code.
Judge Christopher Critchlow said: “This is an unusual case, but in law there is no dispute that Mr Clarke has no defence to this charge. The intention of anybody possessing a firearm is irrelevant.”
So school officials should not "investigate" students.
Tell the cops you have reason to believe a crime was committed, and leave it to the professionals.
Schools should teach, not run lives. Is that really so hard to understand?
Agree with this sentiment. This echos college DEI administrators "investigating" college rape allegations instead of immediately telling the real police.
Sexting is not (necessarily) a crime. However, it could be a disruption of teaching such that a school administrator should investigate. Maybe that investigation will lead to a call to the police, maybe not. This law, however, penalizes the school before they have any way yet to know which of those will be true.
However, it could be a disruption of teaching such that a school administrator should investigate.
In such a situation, I don't see that the Principal possessing the subject of the disruption is essential. That's not to say that he needs to be charged or that the people charging him aren't conflating the possession of a confiscated phone with possessing the information on that phone, but if the issue was just interruption, the subject of the interruption is irrelevant.
I noticed that too, and it applies to almost all contraband laws. If a teacher sees something which might be a gun, or booze, or a joint, or anything illegal, in a student's hand or backpack or locker, are they supposed to take a better look and risk going to jail for ten years, or call the cops and waste everybody's time with all those false alarms?
If someone sends me kiddie porn in email or a text or any social media, am I immediately in violation of the law?
If someone posts kiddie porn pictures all town, on walls, telephone poles, cars, should people just leave it there and walk on?
If someone drops a package and kiddie porn spills out, should passersby just keep walking?
The law is a ass.
Sexting is not (necessarily) a crime.
nope. Wrong. If those images were nasty enough to have this guy on the ropes for investiaging them, they are bad enough to be illegal for one stuent to send to another.
Try again?
How about you trying to differentiate sexting as a criminal word and sexting as colloquial usage? Two adults sending nude pictures to each other is sexting but not illegal. Twins sending nude pictures to each is sexting, and its illegality depends on their age and where they live.
Actually, yes it is. The creation, distribution, receipt, and possession of these photos were all federal felonies. There is no exception for self-photography. There is no Romeo and Juliet clause. Age of consent is explicitly not a factot.
If child pornography laws were enforced as written, I suspect well over 50% of teenagers would be in prison until their late 20s.
The only defense is if you turn the images over to the police in a very short time frame.
leave it to the professionals.
Imagine what would have happened in Uvalde if the Robb Elementary School staff had not left it to the professionals and instead had been empowered to defend themselves.
If you had a kid involved in such a matter would you rather them be punished by the principal or a judge?
In this case, and given the law at issue here, by the time a school administrator has cause to call the cops, he or she is probably screwed already.
No, the safest course for school officials is now willful blindness.
Yes, because getting the police involved in schools has go sooooo well thus far.
The evidence that any actual crime occurred is lacking, especially any "crime" that should involve the cops. I haven't seen the pictures, but I'd bet that some, maybe even all, of them don't even actually meet the legal definition of pornography. Law enforcement is a blunt instrument, at best, and should only be called in when you're sure there's a real crime.
That violates the Prime Directive: never call the cops. Think you need to call the cops? Don’t call the cops.
(Damn it, meant to be a reply to Longtobefree, not a new thread.)
Cops can do two things: arrest someone, or shoot someone. If you don't want anyone arrested or shot, don't call the cops. And understand that if you DO call the cops, YOU could be the one arrested or shot.
Cops are like two year-olds in that if you tell them they are wrong, try to stop them, get in their way, don’t do what they say, or otherwise don’t do what they want, then they’re going to get violent.
Two year-olds do a lot less damage.
Edit: Don’t ever get the impression that law enforcement enforces the law. They enforce their will. Don’t do what they say and they’re going to illegally arrest you. That’s because if you get away with disobeying a cop once well you might do it again. It’s not your place to decide what is or is not a lawful command. If the cop says it then it’s lawful, even if it’s not. At least that’s how the system sees it.
Or…. They can take a report, and nothing further ever happens. Like when I have a property crime problem.
They do nothing because there's no perp there to arrest or shoot.
Sometimes they just shoot the dog.
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The injustice is piled so high and deep on this, it made me laugh. Good and hard. Twice.
First, its being sexting. That means the "victim" took a picture of herself. The theory being that she was a criminal to herself, and that whoever looks at the picture victimizes her again — even though she sent the picture. (As if people seeing pictures of you posing lewdly was such a terrible thing at all, huh?)
Then, if this is a criminal matter, what's a school official getting involved with it for? If someone's alleged to be a rapist or whatever, that's a police matter, not one to handle in-house. The only reason colleges are doing it that way is to deliberately skew the injustice.
But now let's assume the administrator is supposed to get involved like this. That means the school adopted a policy requiring felony action by their employee, right? So it's obstruction of justice if he does it, and obstruction of justice if he doesn't — a great "catch"!
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Yes, it would appear that much of this problem arose precisely because the school system arrogated to themselves an investigative authority that the Legislature had not in any way endorsed or authorized.
Perhaps their intentions were noble - to prevent young and dumb but mostly innocent mistakes by minors (like sending a naked selfie to your boyfriend) from becoming a criminal matter - but the fact is that whatever their motives, it was not their decision to make.
Just another example of how and why public education is anathema to actual liberty.
I have to disagree. A school acting as a neutral arbiter to stop negative behavior before it gets out of hand and settling things in a private and confidential matter is PRECISELY what a school should be doing in this circumstance. There does not seem anything here worthy of getting the courts involved.
"A school acting as a neutral arbiter to stop negative behavior before it gets out of hand and settling things in a private and confidential matter is PRECISELY what a school should be doing in this circumstance."
There is nothing private about a government actor. Period.
Government acting as a neutral arbiter is a court.
We already have confidential ones specifically for minors - juvenile court. This clearly involved activity occurring outside of school grounds.
You can advocate for such an expansive view of what schools should be doing - reaching in to the extracurricular activities of students - but it is clearly not within the bounds of providing education.
Not remotely libertarian and a good example of how government involvement in "education" inevitably morphs into all manner of mission creep and gross extra-judicial overreach.
Finally, someone with a clue. Public schools and police are both state actors. If you have to involve either, it's probably best to start with the one less likely to do major, permanent harm.
Yes. The child pornography laws are draconian and have no exceptions, including Romeo and Juliet clauses, selfie clauses, or anything else. If you receive it, even immediately deleting it is not a defense. You have committed a felony unless you report it to the police immediately. If enforced consistently and to the letter, this set of laws would cause the majority of teenagers to be federal felons for what we would generally call young love.
While this case, so clearly explicitly following the letter of the law and so clearly contrary to any possible spirit, might be the catalyst for a proposal to change this bill. On the other hand, you try convincing a congressman to write a bill that their enemies could relentlessly exploit like this.
My favorite is when they try to prosecute teen sexters as adults. Lemme see, you want to impose adult penalties on someone for an act that, if they were an adult, wouldn't even be a crime? That implies that the same person, committing the same act, is mature enough to be held criminally responsible for their action, yet simultaneously too immature to consent to that action. Punishing an adult for exploiting a minor makes sense, but not when they're the same person. Trying to follow that logic makes my brain hurt.
Merely possessing an image should never be a crime. Illegal pornography charges should be only for those who produce, sell, buy, or distribute it.
Loading it to the server was 'distribution'.
That's really a stretch. It wasn't available there to anyone but the relevant school officials.
That not a stretch, it's the law.
the law is often a stretch. By definition.
We have as a culture abandoned the solid priciple that CRIMES always and by definition involve HARM to VICTIMS
Who is the harmed one here?
Seems to me the one most grieviously harmed here is the teacher the coops are terrorising
"relevant school officials."
So one official made the pictures available to multiple other officials.
Distribution is exactly the term for that.
What if the one who produces, sells, or distributes it is the subject?
Then it's a victimless crime, like many others on the books.
Then you will be arrested for violating yourself. It happens to women all the time (prostitution, abortion, trying to get your tubes tied in certain places, etc)
Fact check: After an admittedly brief search, I can find no place where tubal ligation is illegal. There are a few places where there is an age requirement, but no place where it is illegal. Can you expound?
Disagree. More severe penalties for the producers. Moderate understanding CP volume/'trafficking' charges, but if possessing the photo isn't an issue, then paying $1 for the film it was printed on shouldn't be illegal either and even the volume/trafficking charges are ceding the free market issue.
As usual, I don’t know what you’re trying to say. Is English not your first language?
Considering you don’t even know what ‘distribute’ means, *you* don’t even know what *you’re* trying to say.
if possessing the photo isn’t an issue, then paying $1 for the film it was printed on shouldn’t be illegal either
Too tough for you?
if possessing the photo isn’t an issue, then paying $1 for the film it was printed on shouldn’t be illegal either
Yes. That makes no sense.
And no, taking something out of one of your pockets and putting it in another does not sound like "distributing" to me.
Too tough for you?
Yes.
OK, try a remedial English class.
My English is fine. Your gibberish is nonsense.
Ah, the joys of the law. Paying a buck for the film isn't illegal, only using it to record illegal content is. But, paying a buck for that film does count as interstate commerce, opening the buyer up to federal charges. Not that anyone uses film anymore, but it works just the same for the camera, memory cards, etc.
Maybe he’d have been better off if he passed out dildos like that dean at Francis W. Parker School in Chicago.
That whole thing is just astounding. The defense, the pulling down of the defense, the running away, the lack of any other action... just astounding.
Hey, all he had to do was throw the kids to the cops, and the prosecutor would be destroying their lives instead of his.
as much as I hate authorities sometimes calling authorities is appropriate.
^this
I tend to agree. But unless there's some evidence of actual force, threats or exploitation, kids sharing nekkid pictures of themselves isn't one of those time.
The girl says she isn't a victim of Bass' and both she and her parents have pled with law enforcement to stop the prosecution.
Let's see, add another conviction to my record, or let an innocent man go free. That's a real quandary...
/Most Prosecutors.
LEO and prosecutors really wanted a look at that evidence.
The community is small enough that Bass and Brush Police Chief Derek Bos attended the same church. Bos’ family no longer attends.
Aye-yup.
He uploaded to a server? Drop the sexting charges (no intent) and give him 12 years for stupidity with right to apply for parole in 8 years.
So why are phones allowed in schools at all? Just too hard to enforce? Seems like they must be massively disruptive.
Maybe I'm just getting hopelessly old, but I have a hard time imagining. When I was their age no one had phones, drug dealers had pagers and computers were in special rooms where you could go use them if you had a good reason to. And you used a fucking Polaroid if you wanted to take naked pics.
In some classes phones are required to access online modules.
Otherwise phone are typically allowed at lunch.
Fuck that — why is school allowed at all? It's a racket. Pupils below a certain age, it's babysitting — inefficient babysitting, though, so they have to add after-school programs to fill the extra hours the parents need to work. Students much above that age, it's a waste of everybody's time. Yeah, OK, certain types of instruction are efficiently done in classrooms, but that sort of thing occupies maybe 20% of secondary schooling.
Please ignore all reductions in education scores during the pandemic to make this assertion.
Do they rent out woodchippers in Colorado?
Every community should have municipal woodchippers.
This is being prosecuted because it’s easy.
They should file charges against the district for hosting it on their servers.
Jail the superintendent.
Disbar the lawyer who approved the process for investigating sexting.
Except, now that I think about it, I'm guessing they probably didn't have a SOP for sexting investigations per se, but just charge the admins with investigating "disruptions".
There is another catch-22 here which I’ve seen debated on legal forums. What do you do if someone send you unsolicited child porn pictures?
Delete them? – then you could be charged with destroying evidence
Keep them and show them to the police? – then you could be charged with possession of child pornography
The police can charge you with something, no matter what you do.
That's one of the reasons why I said above that the mere possession of an image should never be a crime.
How about you do not coerce or assault a child so you can steal their phone to take a photo of it before Snapchat deletes the image?
I don't think this is up to the parents. This seems to be a felonious assault on a minor by a person in a position of trust and a violation of the 4th amendment and a felony under Title 18 242.
IMO that's the first crime. It's a felony and this pig should fry for assaulting a child.
That's laughable. Have you ever actually known a child or been in a school?
Of course I have.
I stood up to a teacher in 5th grade who wanted to take my Bible. The took it, they punished me for disobeying and then we destroyed their school by pointing out that their pastor of their church/school was a pedo.
He went to prison, the school and church collapsed and everyone's lives improved except for William Malgren and the teachers.
He got a complaint from a parent. If he hadn't done something, he'd be getting roasted for that. I rarely defend school administrators, but this guy didn't have any good options and I actually have some sympathy for him.
If you delete it immediately, you're probably in the clear. Of course, when I say "delete" I don't mean just sending it to the recycle bin. If it's anything potentially sensitive, well, that's what file shredders are for.
"you’re probably in the clear."
Unless it was sent to you as a sting or a set-up.
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I am sure he could bank on at least a hung jury. He should tell them to bring it on.
I think I'd cop to obstructing justice. Anybody asks about criminal convictions, they hear "obstruction of justice", they're probably thinking you got in the way of a cop making a left turn. Actually once they know of this story, everybody in town is on your side for the next 50 years anyway.
At least hope for a well-hung jury. They're more familiar with sexting.
That depends on what the jury is allowed to hear. You may think you have an argument where no jury would convict even though you're technically guilty, but they may never be allowed to hear the mitigating circumstances.
Juries were originally meant to serve as a check on the power of the state, but, sadly, modern juries have been reduced to little more than rubber stamps. Oh, and that's for the tiny handful of cases that ever go to trial at all. Plus, I see a story on the side-bar about sentencing based on acquitted conduct. That's right, if you're convicted on any of the charges in a case, the judge may still base your sentence on charges where the jury refused to convict. So yeah, you're correct, even with a strong case and a good lawyer, it's still risky to count on a jury to save you.
This is similar to the situation of David Westerfield, and he is now on Death Row! So Bradley Bass had better get a good lawyer!
Briefly, 7-year-old Danielle van Dam of San Diego was murdered in 2002. As a neighbor whom she had recently visited, Westerfield was investigated and some “questionable” pictures were found on his computer. He explained that there was a big controversy about kids being able to access porn on the Internet, so he wanted to see for himself what was possible, and he was going to send those pictures to Congress as examples of smut on the Internet.
(It’s important to note that none of his pictures were actually child porn, despite the media constantly referring to them as such. Several members of law enforcement said they weren’t child porn, and the prosecution knew this, so they couldn’t justifiably, and didn’t, charge him under a child porn statute. But they also knew that they had a very weak case on the murder charge, so they needed the revulsion that the public has for child porn to secure a conviction. They therefore had to introduce those pictures for the jury to see, and they couldn’t allow experts to testify that it wasn’t child porn and wasn’t illegal.)
Where were the rest of the students?
I often wonder when I read these articles or see the video of a teacher or cop assaulting kids, where are the other kids?
When I was in school, the kids kept fights from progressing too far. I saw a teacher tackled and restrained by a classroom after she hit a kid with a chalkboard eraser in the early '80s. The police let her come back and decided she had done nothing wrong but half the class had sat on her so she never returned.
We know kids in active shooter situations have stood up and rushed the shooter to put him down.
If a school administrator is demanding your phone, why do the kids not gang up and put the administrator down?
Every child in school should be taught to grab a dictionary or a backpack and take a swing at the back of his knees or the back of his head. Touching or assaulting a child should be a death sentence particularly if the fiend is a government goon.
I'm going to give you the benefit of a doubt and assume this is satire.
^^^ I don't know what he is going on about either, but I'd multi upvote you if I could.
He's advocating mob violence by school children against teachers and administrators who attempt to enforce school rules. Assuming he's joking, it's not very funny, considering it sometimes actually happens.
Flight 93 had been overtaken by an illegitimate power that claimed authority by force.
The free people on board, decided to “alter or abolish” that new government and elected a new one. They then elected a sheriff who deputized a few passengers and together they stood up for our right to own our government.
They assaulted the new government officials, took over the airplane and caused the plane to crash in a field. They did not commit any crimes.
Government schools are mandated by force and paid for by taxes that are mandated by force. These schools are illegitimate and we the people have the duty to “alter or abolish” them by the most peaceful means possible. It is so bad, the kids have been trying to blow up schools themselves since the ’90s.
I do not advocate for mob violence. I advocate for people standing up and holding government accountable to the point where that government collapses and the people can create a new one.
Failure to do so must result in more destruction like Uvalde and Columbine or what 93 would have been if no one on board stood up.
Precocious middle schooler thinks he's fooling us. *yawn*
I'm not sure I trust middle school students to know when this is appropriate.
I wouldn’t trust them either.
My suggestion is to end the whole racket so we don’t have to.
Because at this point, I trust a 9 year old with a backpack over an entitled goon who has the assurances of the whole corrupt apparatus behind him.
A kid with a backpack is just a kid with a backpack. Government goons who have been corrupted by power killed more people in the 20th than Cancer, if I understand that Reason article correctly.
Oh, good. I initially thought you were delusional enough to believe that schools were about education, and not their true mission to indoctrinate submission to authority. Glad to see I was mistaken.
Nope.
We openly support robbers and pedos in government by preventing their prosecution. The current method turns kids into bombs right in the schools.
I advocate for using backpacks to take out robbers and pedos so we don't have bombs, guns and riots in the classrooms or elsewhere.
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In the spirit of full disclosure, let me state that I have aged beyond the requirement to serve on juries, and it has been my limited experience that attorneys are inherently suspicious and distrustful of any citizen who doesn't exercise all/every option he has to escape jury duty - "Why is it that you want to serve on this jury, Mr. Allison?"
By having "aged out", and no longer having any concern about "outing myself" as someone who would not necessarily follow all of a prosecutor or judges order on what to consider in reaching a verdict (i.e., a potential jury nullifier), I have the freedom without compromising my ability to act as I see fit, including comment on situations like described in the article when I see them. If you believe that one of the duties of the citizen juror is to stand between his fellow citizen and an overweening government represented by a victory-seeking rather than justice-seeking seeking prosecutor, you must acknowledge that jury nullification has a place in the pantheon of justice, and you must be willing, when appropriate, to exercise that function to rescue a fellow citizen from the gears of the machinery.
In most jurisdictions, the prosecutor does not want or allow the jurors to know the penalty for the alleged crime they a judging. A juror who will vote "guilty" without knowing what penalty the condemned will have to pay is either a fool or a knave. This case is the perfect example, with prosecutor in effect saying to defendant "If you bend the knee and plead to me (and I get my conviction/guilty plea), I'll slap you on the wrists and let you go; if you have the effrontery to reject my offer and fight me in court I'll see that you are lashed and then confined if I manage to convict you." Does this sound the offer one would get from a "court officer" more interested in real justice that his win:loss record? No juror should ever vote guilty unless he knows what the cost will be to the convicted! Even if the defendant is guilty for lesser or technical offenses, if the penalty is unjust, the verdict should be "not guilty".
We currently have more criminal laws on the books in this country than the best criminal lawyers can recite from memory (literally something in excess of 70,000 including codes and regulations, federal laws, state statutes, and city ordnances). "Diligent" prosecutors will "hit the books" to determine what all a defendant may be charged with, and stacking charges is all just good sport (and conveniently provides plea leverage). Do you think you know all of them? How many have you broken this week? Is the offense charged against the defendant such that his action was malum in se, i.e., evil in and of itself and he knew or should have known what he was doing was prohibited? Or does his offense fall into the malum prohibtum? category, i.e., not inherently evil or bad, and injurious of no other party, but illegal merely because it is prohibited? Is the sentence called for in the statutes (which you should look up!!!) reasonable, especially in malum prohibitum cases or with "gotcha" or technical violations?
If the case is as described in the article, how would you feel if your guilty vote sent the defendant in the case discussed to the penitentiary as a sex offender for ten or more years and deprived the family of a father? Would you consider that justice? Would you want to be judged by a panel of 12 such automatons?
Learn about jury nullification. Then live it. But never admit to knowing about it, understanding it, or practicing it if you are on a jury or of an age to be called to serve. Vengeful district attorneys have been known to try to prosecute a jury nullifier who spoiled his conviction record by the act of voting "not guilty".
Unless, of course, you trust that our governments (plural) in all their majesty and glory and benevolence would never seek to fine or imprison you for an unjust reason or made up reason.
I thought all trials for crimes had a trial phase (exonerate/convict) and then a penalty phase (determine punishment)? Perhaps I'm wrong but I've not saw any hearings (except for TV) where penalty was predetermined and was just awaiting conviction.
The potential punishments are prescribed by law.
Unfortunately, jurors are not told what the penalty will be if a defendant is convicted. By law (in most, if not all states), judges cannot tell jurors what the penalty will be. They can only say what the "elements of the crime" charged are, and tell the jury to convict or acquit based on whether those elements have been proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The only exception is that when a defendant is facing the death penalty, the jury gets a separate vote on whether to apply it or not.
I don't think one teenager voluntarily sending nude pictures of herself (or himself) to another should be a crime at all (or even something to be investigated by a school). But the laws in many states say it is. The idea of a "child pornography" exception to the First Amendment originally arose in the 1982 case of NY v. Ferber, and was supposed to be narrowly limited to pictures that showed children being sexually abused. But somehow, that exception got widened over the years, I'm not sure exactly how.
But somehow, that exception got widened over the years
State laws have gotten more severe than federal law. In my state, child "porn" laws are draconian—ANY picture of a nude child is illegal, regardless of content or intent. If you own a copy of Houses of the Holy or any Caravaggio prints, you're technically a felon in my state. There is at least one guy I know of in prison here for WRITING A STORY about sex between a child and adult.
Yeah, the madness never ceases. There are actually places where porn featuring performers who are provably legal adults but look "too young" is illegal.
As is "child porn" that is completely artificial and involved no children, nor even any human beings.
jurors are not told what the penalty will be
That's why jurors need to inform themselves about that.
A) Are you being paid by the word?
B) I've never heard of a jurisdiction where one is too old to serve on a jury. In my area, senior citizens are the only people who are reliable jurors, after folks of working or child-rearing age are excused for various reasons.
Where's the King Fairy Jared Polis in this?
How is this different than had the principal kept an eight ball of coke in his desk while “investigating” a student possessing the drugs?
No, I do not support the prosecution going forward, merely noting that this guy is an idiot for not seeing the problem of retaining the images for any purpose. And I’m frankly not in the mood to defend any agent of the state for his own criminal stupidity.
Once their nature was known he had no need to keep the actual files, especially so if he had no intention of passing them on to law enforcement.
I'm also really fucking tired of the purportedly libertarian writers here arguing for selective enforcement of laws. Even more so when they are defending the government from their own damned laws.
Libertarians my ass.
Yes he's an idiot. There was no need to keep these records at all.
However, idiots deserve to be yelled at, not a decade of jail time.
I agree he should not get prison time.
But there needs to be real consequences for his stupidity. Even (perhaps more so) if he was just “following orders.”
He was not a private actor and they were clearly engaged in a form of extra-judicial proceeding intended to skirt existing law. That is an especially bad idea when you are a government agent yourself wielding government authority.
Make it up as we go along is not any acceptable part of a constitutional republic.
Doesn't this case represent classic Scrivener's Error?
If he was actually following the letter of a specific policy, then it's something like that.
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