SCOTUS Said Ambitious Climate Regulations Need To Come From Congress. Lawmakers Are Furious.
Plus: A new lawsuit challenges D.C.'s ban on carrying guns on public transit, Denver's latest housing affordability initiative will make the city more expensive, and more...

A Supreme Court decision not going your way isn't the end of the world. Or is it? On Thursday, six out of nine U.S. Supreme Court justices issued an opinion in the case West Virginia v. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) saying that the Clean Air Act does not give the EPA sweeping unilateral power to regulate greenhouse gas emissions from power plants.
Instead, such a sweeping program would have to be explicitly authorized by Congress, said Chief Justice John Roberts in a majority opinion.
The history of the case, as Reason's Ron Bailey sketches out here, is long and complicated. It stretches back to 2015, when the Obama administration's EPA issued its Clean Power Plan, which would establish cap-and-trade markets for greenhouse gas emissions in each state. The regulations would have phased out coal-generated power plants over time.
The Clean Power Plan proved immediately controversial. The Supreme Court paused its implementation in 2016. Former President Donald Trump tried to replace it with more limited rules during his tenure—a move that was also shot down by the courts.
The Biden administration attempted to revive the Clean Power Plan. The court's decision yesterday puts an end to that effort.
Writing in The Washington Post, conservative commentator George Will argues the decision was a win for separation of powers that might put some outer bounds on executive authority and encourage Congress to resume its role of actually legislating.
"If, as is desirable, the decision presages similar ones, they could, cumulatively, revive Congress by compelling it to resume its proper responsibilities," writes Will. "This would limit the excessive autonomy currently enjoyed by the executive agencies that are the increasingly autonomous, unleashed and unaccountable administrative state."
Lawmakers themselves who supported the Clean Power Plan have taken a somewhat dimmer view of the decision.
Our planet is on fire, and this extremist Supreme Court has destroyed the federal government's ability to fight back.
This radical Supreme Court is increasingly facing a legitimacy crisis, and we can't let them have the last word.
— Elizabeth Warren (@SenWarren) June 30, 2022
Fascist SCOTUS guts the EPA's ability to regulate carbon emissions, fight climate change.
The federal government will be restricted from regulating anything of significance in the absence of a clear Congressional directive to do so. https://t.co/zwxyKii9P6
— Rashida Tlaib (@RashidaTlaib) June 30, 2022
The commentariat was no less restrained.
Undoing Roe is awful. Kneecapping environmental regulation is existential. This Supreme Court has just come down on the side of civilizational collapse.
— Paul Krugman (@paulkrugman) June 30, 2022
Minority rule in the United States is a threat to life on earth
— Kate Aronoff (@KateAronoff) June 30, 2022
Run out of words to describe this court, but, among other things, it's now a threat to the planet.
— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) June 30, 2022
Dear Supreme Court,
Thanks for nothing.
- Planet Earth— Dan Rather (@DanRather) June 30, 2022
Writing over at MSNBC's ReidOut Blog one day before the decision, Ja'han Jones suggests that a loss in the West Virginia case would end not just the Clean Power Plan but "will likely threaten the very concept of a federal government." (Don't threaten me with a good time.)
The reaction, much like the planet, is overheated. Congress always retained the power to regulate carbon emissions as it sees fit. It's a power Roberts even encourages it to use.
"Capping carbon dioxide emissions at a level that will force a nationwide transition away from the use of coal to generate electricity may be a sensible 'solution to the crisis of the day,'" wrote Roberts. "But it is not plausible that Congress gave EPA the authority to adopt on its own such a regulatory scheme in [the Clean Air Act]. A decision of such magnitude and consequence rests with Congress itself.
The decision turns everything back over to the democratically elected branches of government to decide. It's that decision that capital-D Democrats are so incensed by.
FREE MINDS
Four people are suing Washington, D.C., and its police chief over the city's ban on carrying firearms on public buses and trains. The lawsuit, filed by three D.C. residents and one Virginia resident, argues that the restriction isn't justified by the country's history or any significant government regulation.
DCist has the story:
"There is not a tradition or history of prohibitions of carrying firearms on public transportation vehicles," reads the lawsuit, which was filed by George Lyon, a D.C.-based lawyer with Arsenal Attorneys who has filed multiple lawsuits in the past over the city's restrictive gun laws. "Public transportation systems did not exist as they do today at the founding of the nation. However, there was plainly a tradition of firearms carry when citizens traveled from their homes. In modern parlance, Americans carried arms to prevent their gatherings from becoming soft targets."
FREE MARKETS
Denver, Colorado, is implementing an affordable housing program today that will likely make housing less affordable over time. Starting today, developers in the Mile High City will have to offer between 8 and 15 percent of the homes they build in developments of 10 or more units at below-market rates or otherwise pay into an affordable housing fund.
In exchange for taking a haircut on those units, developers would be rewarded with reduced fees and minimum parking requirements.
These kinds of "inclusionary zoning" ordinances are common across the United States. Nearly 1,000 jurisdictions have adopted some of form of them.
Research has shown that they raise overall housing costs, as developers try to recuperate the cost of the mandated affordable units by raising rents on the market-rate ones. Portland, Oregon, and Portland, Maine's inclusionary zoning ordinances are so strict that builders have largely stopped constructing regulated projects. Pittsburgh is being sued over its inclusionary zoning ordinance, with plaintiffs arguing it's an unconstitutional taking.
The percentage of affordable units Denver requires, and the discounted rates they'll have to be rented/sold at, is more generous to developers than what some cities have on the books. Denver's mandate also comes with offsetting incentives that should make construction cheaper. On the other hand, its new ordinance applies to smaller projects than is typical.
Those details will determine how destructive Denver's policy is for housing affordability and supply. That it will have some negative impact is almost certain.
QUICK HITS
• India is the latest country to crack down on single-use plastics.
• The nation's professional fact-checkers have deemed Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas' true statement that COVID-19 vaccines "were developed using cell lines derived from aborted children" as false. Thomas made that statement in an opinion criticizing the court for taking up a case involving religious exemptions to a New York vaccine mandate.
• The ultra-hot electric vehicle market has spawned a market of Tesla flippers, reports the Los Angeles Times.
• The latest Personal Consumption Expenditures data, an alternative measure of inflation preferred by the Federal Reserve, continue to show rising inflation.
• The U.S. Department of Transportation and its fearless leader, Pete Buttigieg, are launching a new Momentum initiative. The stated purpose is to spread the word to other countries about America's decidedly mediocre transportation system. The implicit message is that it's foreigners (not the Biden administration) that are responsible for supply chain hiccups. Regardless of one's political affiliation, everyone should agree the announcement video is cringe.
Today, we're launching Momentum, a new initiative to help countries around the world learn from our best practices and expertise in planning and modernizing transportation infrastructure. https://t.co/nDH1EJA2Jx pic.twitter.com/A585ZA0Qr0
— U.S. Department of Transportation (@USDOT) June 27, 2022
• San Francisco voters will have an opportunity to approve a "vacant home" tax as an effort to address the city's crushing housing affordability problems. The results of similar policies in other cities suggest it's not going to do much good.
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“Our planet is on fire”
LOL
This SCOTUS sure is.
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"fucking pounce!"
I think you're supposed to use the term "lunge" now.
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SCOTUS has not only abandoned any pretense of legal principles in favor of naked political partisanship, but they are not even fact checking their opinions and are getting basic facts about cases wrong. What an utter embarrassment.
How? How has it performed even one of your accusations?
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Sorry, Mother's Lament, I apparently blocked you some time ago, so I can't read your replies. Perhaps log in with another sock puppet?
So you got nothing.
It sounds jeffish.
To paraphrase Tolstoy, all retards are alike.
He called you on your bullshit statements.
"Fact check: Sotomayor makes false claim about Covid-19's impact on children"
Correct. The liberals on the court pretty much vote as a partisan block, and have often been found to be fooled by media misinformation without fact checking. Esp Sotomayor.
But fortunately, they are in the minority at 3 votes to 6, so rest easy
Cry more.
(And weak Alinsky rhetoric.)
its crazy since the scotus before Trump became president also shut it down but Truuuuuuuuuuuuuump
From the article
"The Clean Power Plan proved immediately controversial. The Supreme Court paused its implementation in 2016"
Trump took office in Jan 2017
SCOTUS has not only abandoned any pretense of legal principles in favor of naked political partisanship,
Seems to me the SCOTUS is telling Congress - Do YOUR job! You want abortion. Make an amendment. Make a law. You want to govern the Environment, let's see some effort here. Do what you are supposed to do. Compromise with the other side. Stop putting your ideas into our hands half done and expecting us to finish the part you're too lazy to get done.
We're tired of this weak ass lawmaking and Executive Order BS.
Oh yesss. Perhaps while you’re at it you could learn how to compromise and pass useful laws, instead of twelve months of purple-faced screaming followed by passing a gigantic continuing resolution and scampering home to explain to the voters how you bravely defended democratic (or republican) vaues.
Can you change your name to "LeftistWhoAdmittedTheyWerentLibertarian"
White Mike is already taken.
Oh, the NAKED POLITICAL PARTISANSHIP of conservatives sending cases back to a Democrat-controlled legislature! /sarc
Yup, you are.
“Everything is so terrible and Unfair!!!!”
Lol.
abandoned any pretense of legal principles
You're an idiot.
The court just enforced the constitution over the objections of unelected apparatchiki. Congress has no constitutional prerogative to delegate legislative powers to executive agencies.
-jcr
According to Talib fascism is unelected buerocrats not having totalitarian power
Joe Friday is Talib’s sock puppet?
And Joe Friday LIKES IT.
Come on, you know he would love to be fisted, even by a girl.
Slavery* is freedom!
*To be precise, slavery to the state is freedom; slavery to corporations, patriarchies, convention thinking, and Thomas Jefferson is just slavery.
Or to simplify your long windedness, slavery to a coercive monopoly is freedom; choice in a competitive market of voluntary owners is slavery.
excellent article on Thomas Jefferson, the history of British Empire as to the slave trade, and the nascent US
What Remains of Thomas Jefferson?
https://www.wsj.com/articles/what-remains-of-thomas-jefferson-11656687364
"But the active complicity of the British state in the continued expansion of the slave trade was also part of this equation. Beginning with King Charles II and his younger brother and successor, James II, the British monarchy was the primary supporter of the Royal African Company, the monopoly created to immerse Britain in this human commerce. When the company failed to meet colonial demand, the imperial government happily opened the slave trade to other merchants in Britain and the colonies.
In his denunciation of the slave trade, Jefferson gave his Southern countrymen a moral credit they did not deserve. Yet he was also attempting, however naively, to turn a public repudiation of the slave trade into a justification for independence. Even in 1776, Jefferson probably understood that ending the slave trade, “this piratical warfare,” would not undermine North American slavery. Alone among the slave systems of the Western Hemisphere, North American slavery no longer required a continuous flow of African migrants. Ending American participation in the slave trade would mitigate one evil, but it would not alter the greater tragedy of slavery."
Sounds like single party control of the country is what’s burning.
And no thanks to the fucking Republican Party, mind you.
These excellent SC decisions are thanks to DJT, and the three justices he put in. It’s the closest we’re going to get to having a return to separation of powers in this country, and may the gnashing of teeth from White Squaw and the rest of the assholes provide the fanfare for a most excellent 4th of July weekend.
AMERICA!
Eh, it's just the last gasps of a dying majority. The demographic trends cannot be defeated with butthurt legal opinions and minority rule does not last long. The writing's on the wall and the evangelicals see it. Even the legendary Mormon fecundity won't save them.
That doesn't even make sense. You're not going to be able to replace any population where you stick it.
Remember that commentator “Pod”? That guy was a fucking idiot.
I miss Dunphy, whatever his handle was, the cop.
The demographic trends cannot be defeated
Huh, so now Replacement Theory is real?
From "it's not happening to" to "its inevitable" in a very short time frame. We're quickly on our way to "and that's a good thing."
The "demographic trend" is that immigrants and minorities are getting increasingly pissed off at the Democratic party, for failing to secure our borders, for failing to fight crime, and for taking the economy.
The Democrats have become dominated by billionaires, Karen spinsters, and bankrupt social science majors. You definitely know the type.
Oh, fuck off with your racist bullshit.
Thought the whole white replacement theory was just racism.
The demographic trends cannot be defeated
Yeah, the black and latino voters fleeing the plantation means that the Democrats had better eject the hard-line commies or they're done for, and all the racist vitriol you lefturds spew at Clarence Thomas won't do you a bit of good.
-jcr
Liz Warren has always been a lying, elitist cunt. Perhaps a bit of age-related senility and bitterness has pushed her over the edge. Or just another case of long TDS.
Liz has crazy eyes. Like a tilted pinball machine.
When a chick has eyes like that, better run!
I certainly agree with Will when he says, "This would limit the excessive autonomy currently enjoyed by the executive agencies that are the increasingly autonomous, unleashed and unaccountable administrative state."
Roberts says, "A decision of such magnitude and consequence rests with Congress itself."
Magnitude and consequence are arbitrary. One person's magnitude and consequence is anothers minor issue.
Everything is an existential crisis now.
look who they quoted: narcissistic atheists like Dan Rather, Paul Krugman, Chris Hayes and Senator Lieawatha.
That sounds insurrectiony to me.
The funny thing is, SCOTUS told Congress it can have the last word - they didn't want it!
And Palestinian marxists like Tlaib.
I just don't know how you can sustain the histrionics for years on end. It seems like, at some point, your energy gets depleted, or you realize the world hasn't actually ended.
Do people have any idea just how fucking marginal a difference these EPA regulations are even making in carbon emissions? It's a single tear dropped in the ocean. So there was a fucking heat wave. Heat waves are not new, and weather is not climate. Grow the fuck up and gain some perspective.
"...Do people have any idea just how fucking marginal a difference these EPA regulations are even making in carbon emissions?..."
These are the same people who imagine that the SCOTUS outlawed all abortions and mandated shootings in the street.
Oh, and think that protest on 1/6 almost ended the republic!!!!!!
The gun one has been interesting. Declaring that a constitutional right can have restrictions, but those restrictions must be objective and not based on the whim of individual bureaucrats, has been taken by many people as "everyone must have a gun."
And they seem completely unaware that most of the country already has restrictions no greater than what would be allowed in NY after the ruling, with many states requiring no permit at all. And there is no correlation to more people getting shot.
Actually there is a correlation. It’s just a negative correlation.
Co2 proportion of atmosphere: 0.04%
Anthropogenic Co2 in atmosphere: 0.01%
Atmospheric Co2: 400 ppm
Minimum atmospheric Co2 needed for plant life to survive: 180 ppm
Atmospheric Co2 becomes inhospitable: 4,000 ppm
What is this "CO2" and all these numbers? My teachers and all my social media sources told me we need to outlaw carbon. Unless we remove all carbon from earth, we will all die before senior prom.
Your body is made of carbon, and therefore you want it removed from the Earth. I'd like to oblige, but you leftists have made sure we don't have the capacity of shooting all of you into space. I guess the next best thing is mass burials.
If you burn all carbon base fuels you probably wouldn't get 4000 ppm. may have to look into that, you would have to burn all the plants on the planet as well
It was 6000 ppm during part of the dinosaur ages.
I think a lot of that was down to higher volcanic activity. Which remains one of the biggest sources of CO2 in the atmosphere.
You can get to about 1000 ppm if you managed to dig up all the fossil fuels and burn them.
Temperature dependence on CO2 concentration is logarithmic; a doubling of CO2 results in a temperature increase of about 2.3C (about half of that from the CO2, the other half from increased water vapor). Most of the temperature increase is in high latitudes anyway.
Mammals and primates have thrived under temperatures higher than we could possibly ever achieve by burning fossil fuels. The only serious concern is sea level rise, but physics dictates that that is so slow and gradual that it really isn't a practical issue.
But acknowledging any of that doesn’t get us the Marxist utopia sought by democrats.
You can get to about 1000 ppm if you managed to dig up all the fossil fuels and burn them.
You'd have to do it awfully fast, though. As atmospheric CO2 increases, so does plant growth and oceanic absorption. Even if you reached 1000 ppm, it wouldn't last.
-jcr
Sooner or later, your delusional, indulgent parents get run over by a bus or head off to extended rehab, and you have to go live with your aunt and uncle in a red or even purple county. Then you learn that your new parents, their friends, the teachers at school, and pretty much the entire community just will not listen (and act on) your constant whiny rants.
That's why they constantly change which activists they front-page. Those who reality has proven wrong move on to their sinecures in academia while the new grads eager to pledge their allegiance to Leftism take over the performance roles.
It's easier to demonize your opponents and justify extremism that way.
All this caterwauling is specifically because they've gotten so used to getting their way for so long, they legitimately don't have the capability to process the reality of their side losing. They've been marinating in historic determinism for too many years now.
Open wide, lefty clingers. You're about to get progress steamrolled down your throat like a goose getting foie gras'd.
If your intellectual and emotional maturity, and knowledge of history and science, is that of a typical 12 year old girl, then everything IS an existential crisis, including when dad will not buy you a pony.
SCOTUS finishes off Pride month with a 360, between the legs, dunk from the free-throw line on the Marxist democrats.
Excellent
Best session of SCOTUS that I can remember.
Agreed. The leftist meltdown has been a sight to see.
I haven't seen the democrats this mad since we took away their slaves.
Oh snap!
Which time? The 1863 episode, or the current erosion of guaranteed POC votes?
Fuck Joe Biden
Fuck Joe Biden
Fuck Joe Biden.
Please go, Brandon!
I feel all y'alls' pain. Take a pill and use Butt Hurt Cream.
Is that the same as adult diaper rash cream?
Loving those SC rulings, Joe?
Ill pass on those. Ill be too busy grilling ribeyes, drinkin whiskey, and exploding some things in the air to celebrate America.
The recent SCOTUS imitation of Dikembe Mutumbo slapping the lefties shit across the court will make the whiskey taste extra delicious.
Also, Fuck Joe Biden
Funny how the left can only celebrate the US when everything is going their way, while the right will celebrate the US even if they aren't the ones in charge.
Party over country, indeed.
The left, even when they do have everything going their way, still will shit talk this country, say its an irredeemably racist terrible place, complain they want to move to France or Canada every time they dont get their way...and this isnt just this past week with the SCOTUS rulings. This has been most of my adult life, while they have been marching through all the institutions in charge of everything.
The left hate this country, and they need to learn to accept it for what it is, or GTFO.
The left, even when they do have everything going their way, still will shit talk this country, say its an irredeemably racist terrible place, complain they want to move to France or Canada every time they dont get their way...and this isnt just this past week with the SCOTUS rulings. This has been most of my adult life, while they have been marching through all the institutions in charge of everything.
Christ, what a dead-on assessment of the last 50 years.
Lots of Dem friends refusing to celebrate July 4th because of all of the freedom that was lost and not feeling 'proud' of their country. I was going to ask what freedoms they've lost and how they are affected but then realized it is no longer worth the effort. Spot on JimboJr.
Your pain? Did you invite Tony for a sleepover? Hello monkeypox!
Fuck Joe Biden.
130 days.
New FOIA documents show coordination between liberal activist groups, election officials, and even federal agencies like the DoJ and FBI. Not one document shows any coordination from conservative groups.
Documents show hotels, events, meals being paid for by these groups for state election officials.
https://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2022/06/30/foias-reveal-progressive-money-fueling-fbi-doj-leftist-activist-and-election-official-coordination-n1609558
If Reason were libertarian they'd have someone on it even if it doesn't help the Democrats.
If
IF
But?
What what
Chicken?
Butt?
Love causes monkeypox?
At least CDC-sanctioned man-on-man love.
I thought CDC guidance on that was to do it 15' apart, wearing a condom, a gas mask, and with your eyes closed or something like that.
Kinky!
new research from the public health schools at Harvard and Yale suggests the boosted fared worse against the first Omicron subvariant than the non-boosted.
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/ivy-league-study-boosters-and-covid-rebounds-adds-skepticism-federal
So let's give boosters to infants!
This is getting beyond ridiculous. The rest of the world is starting to notice this shit, but the FDA, etc. keeps plowing on as if they believe their own bullshit.
That's what Pfizer pays them for.
Trudeau is getting money from Pfizer and Moderna through Trudeau Foundation investment. Pelosi does through investment too.
We would know if NIH admins were but they redacted all of their releases.
Its just another sign of devout leftism. True believers of any faith are always eager to prove their devotion, and sometimes even sacrifice their children.
Which is funny when what they are supporting is cronyism and graft at its worst. Or it would be funny if it wasn't actually harming a lot of people.
And using our money to do it.
Typical is the word you're looking for, not funny.
Fair.
I'm not laughing.
new research from the public health schools at Harvard and Yale suggests the boosted fared worse against the first Omicron subvariant than the non-boosted.
Consistent with what the nonboosted were saying at the time and getting unperson-ed for.
Dr Vinay Prasad out of UC San Francisco has done it again. Scorcher observations on all things CDC, FDA, NIH, Feds related to COVID
A checklist for COVID policy
https://vinayprasadmdmph.substack.com/p/a-checklist-for-covid-policy
That is a good article. He seems like a good person to help convince those who don't quite see all the covid madness for what it is.
you have to be a moron of the highest order to have taken any of these mrna drugs. it was obvious from day one that they would not work. zero long term trials and no clue what the effects would be. and we still don't know. very foolish to inject these drugs into your body.
Sinema and Manchin shut down filibuster dreams.
https://justthenews.com/government/congress/bidens-support-changing-filibuster-rules-codify-abortion-rights-immediately
"'I believe we codify Roe v. Wade in the law, and the way to do that is to make sure Congress votes to do that,' Biden said on Thursday in Madrid"
Noteworthy that Brandon doesn't think the best to way to make sure Congress has the votes is to win elections by appealing to moderate and independent voters.
Also noteworhy that a bill to codify Roe already exists, written by two republicans.
It's great that 48 votes in a body of 100 are considered a majority to millions of morons.
The Senate dems represent 40 million more voters than their GOP counterparts and a clear majority of Americans opposed ditching Roe. Only in the Senate, the EC, and now the SC thanks to those dysfunctional institutions (winner take all state allocation of EC votes should be abolished, as should the filibuster - neither are in the constitution) are a minority a majority.
The Senate was specifically and deliberately designed not to be representative of the overall majority sentiment in the country. You seem to think we should have national government. Fine make that case, but it's impossible under the current Constitution.
Or he could move to Canada. Trudeau is his kind of guy.
Nobody except you losers gives a fuck how many more people the Dem Senators represent than the Republican ones. That's not how a constitutional republic operates.
This is why you marxist fucks would tuck tail and run if the country really ever was invaded. You don't believe in this country as it actually is, which is a constitutional republic. Hell, you don't even believe in it as a democracy, because you want abortion on demand passed despite the fact that it's a minority position. You only believe that the government is legitimate if it serves your specific political interests.
You and your kind aren't fellow citizens. You're the enemy.
Joe is so stupid I don’t think he even understands what a Constitutional Republic means.
If it denies the will of the "right" people, then it must be fascism.
Hi, Joe. Do you think States have any legal significance? What do you know about the history of US federalism? How do you think the interests and rights of people in different states should be represented at the federal level?
The Senate dems represent 40 million more voters than their GOP counterparts and a clear majority of Americans opposed ditching Roe.
Actually, the GOP plus Democrats Sinema and Manchin run the US Senate.
Not that anyone doubted your shallowness, but you are intent in demonstrating how fickle and unserious you are. Loving v Virginia is but one SCOTUS decision that was overdue even if Americans were racist as to interracial romantic relations.
Most Americans reject Biden by large numbers. Still, Biden must remain in office until he completes his term, regardless if a majority of Americans wished he were struck by lightning. Think of the carbon emissions that would cause with Harris cackling endlessly
States, Joe. They are all their own states. Montana doesn't want to be California, much as you want it to. Leave them alone. Work towards whatever abortion goals you believe in in your own state and stop worrying about what is happening somewhere else. It doesn't affect you.
Do you think Missouri should work harder to create policy for housing shortages and more homeless people living in tents on the sidewalk because you have it there?
His kind can’t help themselves. They want to dictate to everyone and control everything. When the truth is that his ilk are both incompetent and incapable. The Biden regime is proof of this. As they have completely failed, at a pace and on a level unseen in human history from any nation of significance.
The smart money would be to put them all up against a wall. I’ll settle for compulsory expatriation. As we should at least attempt to piss mercy upon them. Undeserving wretches they may be.
"A Supreme Court decision not going your way isn't the end of the world."
Please notify the rest of the Reason staff. They seem to have missed this memo.
We are literally south America now because the courts applied this reasoning.
Says Teen Reason, and its sister publication, Reason for Social Democrats.
The authoritarians in plain view showing everyone whats under the mask
"If we have to actually legislate and cant rule by executive fiat and unaccountable govt agencies, its the end of the country"
No you fuckers, its the way the country was founded and meant to be. GTFO, move to Canada if you want petty little tyrants running your lives. You wont be missed
They should go try to cross the Canadian border illegally and claim assylum. See how that works out for them.
Well, then, maybe Ukraine.
As deeper dives into Hunters laptop continue, more evidence of Biden coordinating with Hunters business emerge, including when Biden was Vice President.
https://nypost.com/2022/06/30/hunter-and-joe-bidens-links-go-deeper-by-the-day-devine/
clearly Joe Biden was an failure as a father, that as well as cheating on his first wife, marrying a wanna be "doctor" of somethin', and a man to be mocked by global leaders in his last years on earth. Jill Biden should be charged with elder abuse
The Biden family is more fucked up than the Kennedy family.
At least he agrees DUIs aren't felonies. Despite his first wife being killed by one.
That's another Biden Lie. The truck driver wasn't drunk when he hit her car.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/driver-in-biden-crash-wanted-name-cleared/
Biden is a liar and a scumbag for using his first wife's death- and smearing an innocent man- to score political points.
Is it lying when people lack the moral capacity to know the difference?
IMHO, that's worse than lying. A liar can tell the truth - and knows what it is even while lying. Biden starts by lying to himself, believes his lies, and bases policy on them.
and he showered with his young daughter. he a pervert and a pedophile.
Our ‘president’. Was likely fucking his daughter when she was a child. The democrats don’t care. The only thing that matters to their kind is being a party member in good standing.
but wait, did someone say that he might have thrown ketchup at the wall and another person mention he might have possibly heard another person say he reached for a steering wheel?!
Did they ever clarify what food he was eating that he used ketchup with? For some reason, I feel like he primarily ate hamburgers.
He puts ketchup on his steak. Which is what he really should have been impeached for.
I would have supported impeachment here^
Was it at least spicy ketchup?
Don’t know. We should start a commission to get to the bottom of it.
Heinz?
Well-done steak, too.
These are the real crimes.
(Eating pizza with a fork is more of a misdemeanor.)
What a fucker. Desecrated a cow, and made some poor nobody clean up ketchup.
Real pizza is thick enough to require a fork
Inshallah.
I think that was due to him being a total germaphobe. Reduces the chance of some random bacteria floating around in there, I guess.
My sisters husband throws any food that’s grilled in the microwave afterwards.
I'll be honest, that's sort of tragic.
my father in law once microwaved (and made a show of it) a steak after I gave it to him (deliciously seared and medium rare) because he was mad I was the one everyone wanted grilling.
He notoriously cooks everything to medium well minimum (at best). Many a perfect ribeye were scorched by this man.
I couldn't help myself and told him I am OK with him murdering the steak but I wouldn't be an accomplice.
He'll be ok though, we gave him some cute ass grand kids.
That shit was hilarious. Trump throwing a hamburger against the wall in the White House is truly the image to define his dumpster fire presidency.
Yeah, way, way worse than getting blow jobs in the Oval Office.
Different dumpsters, different fires.
Hearsay!
Not first person testimony since she didn't taste the sauce! It might have been spaghetti sauce.
Still an idiot.
Do you actually think you’re clever? Not that I expect one of you kind to be capable of being clever.
I would say all the blue haired freaks wailing about all the recent Scotus decisions is the more appropriate image of his presidency.
See, I find stuff like this much more compelling than someone discovering that Hunter spent a bunch of money to hire Russian hookers.
There's clearly some smoke there, but the DOJ isn't going to start looking into it. The question is whether Republicans will start looking into it after the midterms.
They will. But probably incompetently and nothing will happen.
Half of them are probably running a similar scheme, so they won't dig too deep.
More than half.
There will be enough establishment Rs running interference that any investigation will be toothless. You think McConnell or Romney want Congress to start looking closely at family businesses with questionable foreign connections?
Rs will start scoring own goals as soon as they take over the majority, probably on social issues.
Congress will turn into a two-year shit-flinging contest-- so often the case after midterms-- because the issues voters are concerned about (the economy and inflation) involve addressing spending, and that's the third rail. Do not touch.
Fortunately, gridlock at least provides enough stability for businesses to make some plans and get back on their feet, and the economy will come around as inflation expectations diminish-- no thanks to Joe Fuckhead.
Gridlock is my favorite kind of government, if I can't have intentional minimalism.
Same. If I had any power to do so, I'd vote for gridlock over single party rule every time.
Theoretically, it'd be so you have to moderate your extreme positions to convince a broad coalition of something's value if you want to get it passed into law, but 21st century governance is all about extremes now. Lockstep party uniformity and if the other guys like it you have to be against it. All or nothing breeds extreme positions, which is the major danger of single party rule.
So gridlock it is. And I'm happy with it. Any time government uses an "emergency" and passes a big law to "fix" something it makes things worse. Often way worse.
Biden is EVERYTHING that they warned me Trump was.
You know who else was everything that they warned us Trump was?
Hitler? I feel like the answer is Hitler.
Elmo. Stop it. The answer is elmo.
Elmo's not gonna make it
Less than a week after governor Inslee decried bodily autonomy and women's rights, he signs a bill requiring all state workers to continue to get boosted for covid.
https://mobile.twitter.com/thehoffather/status/1542709456785420289
"My body, my choice," is now replaced with "My baby, my cutlass."
Women are going to die, but it's a lot more likely to be some purple-haired freak fingering herself with a soldering gun on livesteam.
Eh, I’d watch.
What does Oldsmobile have to do with this?
inslee has the iq of a house cat. i live in wa so i'm familiar with his bullshit. he's absolutely the dumbest politician to ever serve.
Patty Murray would like to have a word with you.
Taking power away from the federal government is fascism? Really?
Making congress do it s job is fascism.
Outsourcing legislation to unaccountable bureaucracies is democracy.
Freedom is slavery. War is peace. You know how it goes.
Fascism is anything that thwarts progressivism.
You joke, but they unironically believe this:
"Liberating tolerance, then, would mean intolerance against movements from the Right and toleration of movements from the Left. As to the scope of this tolerance and intolerance: ... it would extend to the stage of action as well as of discussion and propaganda, of deed as well as of word. The traditional criterion of clear and present danger seems no longer adequate to a stage where thewhole society is in the situation of the theater audience when somebody cries:‘ fire’. It is a situation in which the total catastrophe could be triggered off any moment, not only by a technical error, but also by a rational miscalculation of risks, or by a rash speech of one of the leaders. In past and different circumstances, the speeches of the Fascist and Nazi leaders were the immediate prologue to the massacre. The distance between the propaganda and the action, between the organization and its release on the people had become too short. But the spreading of the word could have been stopped before it was too late: if democratic tolerance had been withdrawn when the future leaders started their campaign, mankind would have had a chance of avoiding Auschwitz and a World War."--Herbert Marcuse, "Repressive Tolerance"
That passage above has quite literally been the keystone of the left's worldview since the late 60s. They quite seriously believe that anyone who doesn't follow their own ideology should be marginalized and suppressed. That's why they always seem to be in a state of perpetual agitation.
Every night, thousands of people in Wyoming go to sleep not giving a shit what people in San Francisco and New York City are doing. Every night, thousands of people in San Francisco and New York City go to bed in abject terror that people in Wyoming aren't doing what they think they should be doing.
It is a situation in which the total catastrophe could be triggered off any moment, not only by a technical error, but also by a rational miscalculation of risks, or by a rash speech of one of the leaders.
Spoken in regard to avoiding what the Nazis did, yet this is exactly what what Democrat leaders, the entrenched bureaucrats, and the uncritical media perpetuated with the COVID panic, the Floyd riots, and the invented insurrection on Jan 6 .
It has to first be understood that these people actually believe that anything which doesn't advance society towards the communist utopia is actually sliding the country towards fascism.
Tlaib and most other Palestinians are, in fact, marxist in their worldview (the Muslim Brotherhood is actually an explicitly marxist organization, and they're the ones who sponsored Hamas) it's just that it gets really exacerbated when they come to the US because seeing all the middle class prosperity drives them absolutely bonkers, just like it did to Marcuse when he was working at UCSD. Seeing so many happy working-class people not wanting to overthrow capitalist America just angered him to no end.
I wonder how many traditional cultures throughout history (and pre-history), whether religious, tribal, or ethnic, were essentially socialist and ideological. Perhaps that represents the default condition, and thus might reflect some evolution-driven cognitive biases. If so, then any hope to create an enduring pluralistic and tolerant society requires continuous effort, even without active partisan crusades.
I wonder how many traditional cultures throughout history (and pre-history), whether religious, tribal, or ethnic, were essentially socialist and ideological.
I think that's ascribing something far to simplistic to how they actually existed. Small-scale traditional cultures have always relied on an assumed framework of social and religious conformity to function, because deviant and/or parasitic elements could create social fissures that would fracture the community and therefore threaten its survival. That's why ostracization was such a powerful punishment, and an inducement to conform--it's literally the society telling you that if they don't kick you out, you're going to be the cause of their death.
At the other end of the spectrum, overscaled urban developments seem to always lead to the kind of conditions that were reflected in Calhoun's rat experiments, and as complexity increased, return on investment reduced to the point that the complexity couldn't be sustained anymore, leading to collapse. That's why feudalism didn't actually take over in Europe until after Charlemagne; the remnants of the Empire simply practiced local versions of Roman-style administration, because that's what they understood. Feudalism only took over when it became seen as a better alternative to the local Roman-style systems.
Jihadists and Marxists have been working closely together since the 60s, maybe even 50s
For anyone who has Prime, there's a really good series on there called "Hitler's Bodyguard". It's about 9 or 10 hours total (45 minute episodes) and really gets into the details of the whole Nazi apparatus.
It is a huge disservice to focus solely on Hitler, with little examination beyond Hitler=evil, when there was so much more involved.
Pretends naziism was a movement from the 'right', rather than a left political position.
They aren't even trying anymore. Just say "Fascism" and a certain set of people will just go along.
I've actually seen comments about the concealed carry gun case where people actually said that it's an outcome authoritarians would love.
Which was right up there with Robert Reich saying, when Elon Musk was first talking about buying Twitter, that authoritarians somehow would benefit and be for unfettered free speech online.
Not just fascist, but christofascist now
Just a growing part of the lazy composite racist-sexist-capitalist slur. But I think the less ideological middle is getting tired of hearing that, and the power is wearing off.
It's true, man. I've been studying World War II, and the first thing the Nazis did when they got to Warsaw was arm all the Jews and give them a printing press. It was fascism at its most brutal.
SCOTUS didn't even take power away from the federal government as a whole, just the EPA. Congress could simply order the EPA via legislation to do what SCOTUS undid.
Democrats are mad that they have to be accountable to voters now.
And it didn't take any power away. It just said congress never gave you that power.
I'm being a pedant and you know this, but really it said Congress COULD NOT give EPA that power.
Read most of the ruling. Roberts implied congress could give them the power ofnthey were explicit.
The decision turns everything back over to the democratically elected branches of government to decide. It's that decision that capital-D Democrats are so incensed by.
Reason, youre almost there. Now apply this to Dobbs.
Not going to happen. There’s just certain issues where most the writers here act like emotional children, and abortion is one of them.
"certain issues"
Heh.
Ok, how about “certain issues more than others”?
But that's different because... WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS ARE A FUCKING CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT AND THIS IS LITERALLY THE HANDMAID'S TALE!!!
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
The Democrats love Executive Rule and dislike the representative democracy aspects of our system of government when they control the executive. Rule by fiat by an entrenched bureaucracy is easier if they own the bureaucrats.
You can't trust the filthy proles to make decisions. They need to be ruled by Experts who know what's best for them.
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Progressives do not believe in self-governance. They want to be governed by wise, unelected "experts" who write, enforce, and adjudicate rules with the power of law. They do not want separation of powers. They abhor checks and balances. Government is to be nimble and powerful, but most importantly unaccountable. In short they despise the Constitution and everything it represents.
No, they do not. Representative democracy is messy and uncertain. It allows uncouth people to have a say and may actually allow them to gain the upper hand. Persuasion is much easier if all you have to persuade are the political and academic classes, and other elites. The masses have different ideas and can be stubborn about them.
I've done some research into the history of Progressivism, so I do believe I know what I'm talking about. These are people who do not want limited government. They do not want separation of powers. They do not want government to be accountable.
What they want is to be ruled by an administrative state run by experts, and they've been at it for a long time. Do your own research. You'll see I'm correct.
He was agreeing with you dumbass.
And I've met the kind of wise, unelected bureaucrats that work in government agencies. I wouldn't let them decide what I'm going to eat for lunch today, much less how to run a power plant.
Yeah, no shit. Government is the idiots who tell the experts how to do their job.
So you've missed government declaring themselves the experts for the last few decades?
They can declare themselves to be tooth fairies. Doesn't make it true.
Yet many of those you have been siding with the last year believe they are. Just a heads up.
I haven't been siding with anyone except for the voices in your head.
You side with the voices in Jesse’s head? That’s weird.
They tell him what I side with, and he passes it along in these comments. Then when I disagree with the voices in his head he calls me a liar because he knows the voices are telling him the truth. You're right. It is indeed really weird.
Woe is Sarc! Jesse is a BIG MEANIE!!
Claiming to be the tooth fairy would be more accurate.
Think about it, they love giving out free shit and think they are magical.
wouldn't let them decide what I'm going to eat for lunch today,
Yeah, I've seen the twitter photos of Michelle Obama approved school lunches.
You are correct
Agree = Progressives do not believe in self-governance. and this In short they despise the Constitution and everything it represents.
D.C. is 90% democrat. It is their biggest source of support. It is their biggest source of funding.
By letting unelected bureaucrats control government, they get what they want. That is why they continue to expand it.
Trumls biggest mistake was not taking a sledge hammer to the unelected industry. And they actively attacked him openly for 4 years through The Resistance.
They remain the biggest obstacle to freedoms even if a pure libertarian were to become president. A lot of this is due to courts views on the take care clause and the inability of a president to cut down wasteful spending or agency powers due to impoundment.
The left relies on extended executive powers. It is one reason congress writes vague laws and vague spending into bills. Which the president has no effective tools to reduce on his own.
Progressives are quaking in their boots right now because they fear the new Supremes will attack the administrative state, and force Congress to make laws instead of relying on executive agencies making rules.
I hope their fears are realized. Problem is they got a head start over a century ago, so undoing their damage will be difficult.
Progressives are quaking in their boots right now because they fear the new Supremes will attack the administrative state, and force Congress to make laws instead of relying on executive agencies making rules.
This ruling wasn't even nearly as sharp as it could have been. Roberts was actually being his typical anodyne self here.
But progressives are smart enough to understand the implications. That's why they're shrieking in outrage right now. They've been consolidating their power in the bureaucracies for a long time now, and anything which curbs that is rightly being seen as a threat to their authority.
If we do end up having some kind of civil war, it's going to boil down to the fact that the left does not want to share power, or give it up when the people put them in the minority.
It’s almost like Progressives are America’s worst people.
Only to the other 90% of Americans who just refuse to comply with the Progressive holy vision for a perfect future.
Good thing we have those Trump judges, right Sarc?
He wanted to, but in one of the most evil, insidious (and yet diabically clever and shrewd) moves in decades of recent American history, the Deep State struck first before he got the chance by running Operation Crossfire Hurricane on his ass before he could even take the oath of office. They put him squarely on the defensive right from the jump and he was never able to get off of it in that area.
This strategy worked so damn well for the permanent Washington unelected bureaucracy in fact that I predict they're going to try to execute the same exact type of strategy on DeSantis, Hawley, or any other republican who is a threat to win and clearly has a desire to drain the swamp. So they better be very well prepared WAY ahead of time for what's going to come at them, because Trump wasn't, as he didn't really understand the type of people we're talking about and the depths they'll resort to in order to maintain power.
Chuck Schumer even warned him.
He sure as hell did!
Trump tried. Shitweasels like McConnell stopped him.
Also, the Republicans love Executive Rule and dislike the representative democracy aspects of our system of government…
Yes, both sides.
Yes, youre ignorant.
Why are you always compelled to weigh in and try to balance the scales with a both sides? I'm really curious?
It doesn't even fit the majority of this discussion?
It doesn’t fit the majority of most discussions here.
Mikey does it because in his fevered little brain he thinks it makes him look non-partisan and middle of the road. He’s not bright enough to realize he only interjects this when someone points out how bad the Democrats are on something.
Because, going back at least as far back as the middle of Trump's presidential term, the commentariat has been infested with MAGA apologists who have created an echo chamber where they sit around and criticize Democrats everyday, but never say a word about Republicans doing the ... very ... same ... things.
I like to pop the echo chamber bubbles.
Here’s a thread in this very story that contradicts Dee’s narrative. Which she will ignore.
https://reason.com/2022/07/01/scotus-said-ambitious-climate-regulations-need-to-come-from-congress-lawmakers-are-furious/?comments=true#comment-9577200
that would explain all those republican losing their shit and having a temper tantrum over the SC ruling
Dee’s not very bright.
Denver, Colorado, is implementing an affordable housing program today that will likely make housing less affordable over time. Starting today, developers in the Mile High City will have to offer between 8 and 15 percent of the homes they build in developments of 10 or more units at below-market rates or otherwise pay into an affordable housing fund.
...
Those details will determine how destructive Denver's policy is for housing affordability and supply. That it will have some negative impact is almost certain.
Surely new Reason libertarian idol Polis will think this is bad.
https://www.denvervoice.org/archive/2021/6/2/polis-signs-affordable-housing-and-rent-control-bill
Damn.
Denver housing policy is always the worst of all possible worlds and corrupt to boot.
Denver cut their own throats well over ten years ago when the progressive idiots in the city and throughout the metro area got a draconian construction defect law passed that incentivized builders to focus on mcmansion developments in the exurbs, rather than condo and townhome developments that could have at least somewhat kept up with the massive growth the same idiots were encouraging.
Turns out that growing the state by a million new people without having the housing stock on hand to accommodate them is a bad idea. Who could have seen that coming?
Texas has entered the chat.
This is the same approach San Francisco took.
The goal is not affordable housing. The goal is to slow growth and increase property values. It is a 1% enrichment scheme sold to the low IQ voters as something good for them.
It is a tax on what they are saying we want more of. You tax things you want less of. The goal is less housing.
This is the same approach San Francisco took.
Not a surprise, considering the Front Range is a colony of Silicon Valley now.
"Silicon Valley"
Now there's a place that needs a few mass shootings
According to U-Haul Colorado is now having near record outflows.
Please let this be true.
Personal data point: I recently tried to reserve a U-haul car trailer for a local trip, but got a call from U-haul telling me they can't make the reservation due to equipment shortages.
Last week it was "our democracy is being destroyed by Republicans;" now it's "the Supremes won't let us Democrats destroy democracy."
It's more like "The Extremist Far-Right Supreme Court Is Destroying Our Democracy by taking power away from unelected bureaucrats and returning it to the voters!"
Christofascist.
Get the new terminology right
Remember the yellow vests in France?
Wtf haven't we organized nationwide protests against punitive energy policies that aren't in any way justified?
https://www.zerohedge.com/commodities/dutch-farmers-livid-over-eus-green-nitrogen-rule-block-border-between-holland-and
Because the suffering hasn't gotten bad enough yet to make people think they don't have anything to lose, and the odds are quite high that any one which does kick off is going to have the Trudeau model (if it's a left-wing protest, have at it; if it's a right-wing protest, suppress it) applied to it.
Hey Peanuts remember when I used to prove how bad the Trump economy was by citing things like Sam's Club closing stores? Well as a top liberal capitalist I should point out that kind of analysis does not, I repeat, does not work in the Biden economy. So when you read about Bed Bath and Beyond struggling, understand there are no larger implications. The Biden economy is, in fact, still the best ever.
#TemporarilyFillingInForButtplug
"The latest Personal Consumption Expenditures data, an alternative measure of inflation preferred by the Federal Reserve, continue to show rising inflation."
[plugs ears] la la la la la la I can't hear you la la la la la la la
#MoreButtplugInsights
Believe i saw 42 states had negative 1Q growth.
Well good for Joe Friday for visiting 42 states. I wonder how he can afford to do so much traveling with gas prices so high?
Look fat. He is a super athlete. He runs from state to state.
So he's like a more retarded forest Gump?
^Funny.
Bed Bath and Beyond should've invested in spitting tobaccy
They should have gone into coding.
http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/rationing-has-already-started-in-europe-as-the-entire-globe-plunges-into-a-horrific-economic-nightmare/
If countries in Europe are already beginning to ration certain things due to “supply problems”, how long will it be before it starts happening in the United States?
Fuck you, globohomo
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/us-uk-unveil-combined-2bn-more-ukraine-security-aid-include-offensive-weapons
Fuck us from the looks of it.
Now that pride season is over should I put my Ukraine decorations up again?
No, you need to put up your "National Minority Mental Health" awareness flag or you're a racist chud. https://twitter.com/HHSGov/status/1542855548416172032?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/poland-completes-belarus-border-wall-repel-middle-east-and-african-migrants
You're not a woman, you're a man who likes to dress like a woman.
Cutting off your tits doesn't turn a girl into a boy, it just ruins the girl's life.
https://thepostmillennial.com/house-dems-introduce-transgender-bill-of-rights
Suicidal rates increase after they undergo surgical transition. There is a reason why the UK and Scandinavian countries have halted their support in socialized medicine of these barbaric practices. Meanwhile the Irreligious Left is determined to march these suckers off the cliff. We are living in a monstrous state with Biden's handlers running our country.
They somehow think that they will grow back once the teenage angst fades.
It's even worse for boys who cut off their junk. The girls can pull off a semblance of 'detransition' but the boys are just done.
It's even worse for boys who take puberty blockers and then cut off their junk. Their junk doesn't develop correctly, so the tissue is not suitable for constructing a fake vagina. Any fake vaginas made from the tissue are extremely prone to injury and infection.
the boys are just done.
We have come full circle back to telling young men with mental issues, "Quit your whining and put a sock in it."
these people need a psychiatrist and some serious mental help. they're mentally ill.
So now we know:
CNN interviewed Joe Biden’s Director of National Economic Council, Brian Deese
https://thepostmillennial.com/biden-official-says-american-families-must-endure-high-gas-prices-for-the-good-of-the-liberal-world-order
CNN: What do you say to those families who say, listen, we can't afford to pay $4.85 a gallon for months, if not years. This is not sustainable."
Deese: This is about the future of the Liberal World Order, and we have to stand firm.
Nobody Said This Would Be Fun.
As long as it takes.
Resistance is futile.
They have become far more open to saying the quiet bit out loud as their policies crash in flames around the globe. It is amazing to watch. Globalism is showing to be an unmitigated disaster.
I know I've said it before... but centralized planning and economics is like believing in Intelligent Design.
In a healthy economic world we would see evolutionary ideas. Different states, countries, business, etc competing where the best ideas raise up and bad business dies. Globalism of the likes Davis crowd attempts to destroy the natural system of economics for an Intelligent Design like implementation.
Six-Day Creationism rather than Intelligent Design.
This round of Globalism is showing to be an unmitigated disaster.
FIFY. TOP MEN, True Globalism... rinse, repeat. You know the drill.
Referring to your movement as "*Anything* World Order" should be a huge red flag to anyone listening.
Listen to what leftists say, because it's always a confession via projection
https://twitter.com/jimmy_esq/status/1542755234652495872?t=OaFKrq9omdRS7LiQ5sLpUA&s=19
Twitter commentariat seems to be coping well
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With the subpoenas for gop emails and internal communications, the J6 investigation makes Watergate look like nothing.
Whoops. Meant for below.
"They're clinic bombers in robes"
https://www.opb.org/article/2022/06/12/probe-into-fire-at-gresham-oregon-anti-abortion-center/
I wonder how long it would take for "Blacks want you dead. They want to harvest babies from your dead bodies while the world burns around them. And that's not hyperbole." or "Muslims want you dead. They want to harvest babies from your dead bodies while the world burns around them. And that's not hyperbole." to get taken down.
That lady legitimately needs to be institutionalized.
That Hough be crazy
Lemme guess: another blow to the statists that’s “ worse than Watergate”? I’m losing track.
But I know one thing: Trump via SCOTUS is getting the last laugh. Repeatedly.
So tired of winning.
You would think, but if you look at Trump’s feed on TRUTH Social, for example, there is very little mention of SCOTUS. It’s almost all grievances over the January 6th committee, the “stolen election”, and victory laps when his endorsed candidates win.
He was pretty pissed at the SCOTUS for not backing him up on stolen election claims, and, apparently, he’s still pissed.
It's great to see legendary journalist Dan Rather is now indistinguishable from any other bluecheck Twitter liberal. He deserves to speak his mind after the decades he spent as an unbiased anchor at ABC News or wherever. (I'm not old enough to have watched him.)
#LibertariansForRather
CBS. Perhaps his claim to fame (or 20 minutes of fame) was during a terse press conference wherein he questioned then-embattled President Nixon, who was enduring the Watergate scandal.
As I recall, Rather was given a kind of subtle applause or affirmation by his peers as Nixon called upon him.
“Are you running for something?” asked Nixon.
“No, Mr. President. Are you’? he replied.
https://twitter.com/gunpolicy/status/1542856185556213760?t=QvlIoYNDDfmAynyRFsrjJw&s=19
The text of the New York bill to "comply" with the Supreme Court's Bruen decision has been released. You can read it here: [link]
Permits would, among other things, require four references and "a list of current and former social media accounts" from the last three years: [pic]
Sweet, I have no social media accounts. So does that mean I automatically get my permit?
How many references you got?
"I have no social media accounts."
If anything, they may see that as more suspicious.
This is why the cost of loosing the lawsuit should come directly out of the pocket of the people who wrote the law. They are using tax payer money to drain the pro civil rights groups. Start individual/class action suits against these people
Where's sarcasmic? I need that clown to tell me the etymology of "wop" again.
Wop's up? How's your dago?
What with your passion for learning I thought you might appreciate a lesson on the actual etymology of "Wop".
"The Merriam-Webster dictionary states wop's first known use was in the United States in 1908, and that it originates from the Southern Italian dialectal term guappo, roughly meaning "dandy", or "swaggerer", derived from the Spanish term guapo, meaning "good-looking", "dandy", from Latin vappa for "sour wine", also "worthless fellow".[2][3][4]
One false etymology or backronym of wop is that it is an acronym for "without passport" or "without papers", implying that Italian immigrants entered the U.S. as undocumented or illegal immigrants.[9][10][11] The term has nothing to do with immigration documents, as these were not required by U.S. immigration officers until 1924,[12] after the slur had already come into use in the United States.[10]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wop
You guys keep talking about it, and it keeps making me think of this comic so I'm linking it now:
https://pbfcomics.com/comics/the-offenders/
Ha!
What happens when you hit an ittalian with your car?
Dego wop
psst.... tell us we'll die like dogs.
Haha sarc’s wrong. Again.
“Four people are suing Washington, D.C., and its police chief over the city's ban on carrying firearms on public buses and trains.”
But, thanks to that ban, no one has ever been shot on a D.C. bus or train…today…yet.
"48% of Americans Say Trump Should Be Charged for Role In Capitol Attack: AP Poll"
[...]
"About half of Americans believe former President Donald Trump should be charged with a crime for his role in the U.S. Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021, a new poll shows..."
https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/politics/about-half-say-trump-should-be-charged-for-role-in-capitol-attack-poll/3286263/
Assuming this AP poll is as accurate as the one that had HRC taking 60% of the popular vote, it's likely those 26 people want him charged with being Donald Trump!
"Recent polls indicate Joe Biden less popular than man whom 48% of people think should be charged for insurrection."
"Unprecedentedly popular President struggles to be as popular as Benedict Arnold."
^Like it
this whole thing is more like a team sport rally, or a two minutes hate, and has nothing to do with facts or reason.
48% think he should be charged, but he's still beating Biden in betting odds:
https://www.covers.com/politics/us-election-betting-odds
"Biden Less Popular than Alleged Traitor and Would-Be Dictator"
I think we can safely say that Biden is the most hated president in US history.
"Biden less popular than an alleged traitor and would-be dictator, AND a fascist, homophobic, Disney-hating authoritarian COVID denier."
So are the elites crying about the world on fire still taking private jets everywhere? Obama still renovating that mansion that's at sea level?
Ok cool. Sorry I still dont care then.
Actually he just installed a 200 gallon natural gas tank
"The fetal tissue used in these processes came from elective abortions that happened decades ago. But the cells have since replicated many times, so none of the original tissue is involved in the making of modern vaccines."
lulz
"Life finds a way"
I saw several of these articles yesterday and was amazed by the take (my amazement is itself amazing, given the media bias in today’s “reporting”). They all say something along the lines of “Thomas says vaccines made from fetal tissue” in the headline, then go onto quote him saying that the vaccines were developed and tested using cells from fetal tissue lines. Then they claim his statement 100% false. He literally claimed the the thing they acknowledge as true. What in the actual fuck
Lying within acceptable parameters.
One of the networks claimed yesterday that KBJ was the first black SCOTUS. The headline was up for several hours before it was corrected.
They've all gone insane.
Kinda like how money laundering works.
So, these vaccines weren't developed from fetal cell tissue and Citizens United was rightly decided.
Thinking a life is a life and any fruit that comes from ending that life is poisoned is just irrational conservative capitalists being animists, but if you made your money selling oil or guns or preaching, rather than selling baby parts, and you donate to a political campaign, even indirectly, well, money isn't fungible and those funds are tainted, besmirching the souls of anyone who not injects but metaphorically touches them, and must be disclosed.
It really is bizarre.
It's funny because the drug companies lied under oath that they never used fetuses
We will find out more in 73 years.
Maybe this will reign in some of these Departments and their radical regulations. I have to admit it was a pretty good tactic. Appoint an extremist as head of an Agency and let them "regulate"
Now Congress is going to have to put it's money where it's mouth is. You want it, vote for it. Put your views on record where they can be seen.
I've said before "If it can deprive me of my freedom, property or wealth, it needs to be a Law, not a regulation."
https://twitter.com/TheMarieOakes/status/1542865264953462784?t=H3qB6eGYyay06x6I5xlSMA&s=19
The city of Ottawa is increasing fines for “shouting” on Canada Day.
You can’t shout “HAPPY CANADA DAY” in the capital of Canada.
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They're absolutely terrified of more antigovernment protests today, so they're preemptively making them illegal.
The federal government will be restricted from regulating anything of significance in the absence of a clear Congressional directive to do so.
Yeah, Tlaib. That's the fucking point.
THE HORROR
Jesus christ...
This is what you get when you vote in childish ignorant activists who know absolutely nothing. An elementary school civics lesson or school house rock would serve these fuckers well. Though would interfere with all that marxism.
While we are at it, can congress take back the fucking power to declare wars please?
The U.S. Department of Transportation and its fearless leader, Pete Buttigieg
Most worthless member of Biden's cabinet. Discuss.
Is he still on maternal leave?
He's been the most affected by Monkey Pox in the cabinet.
Hardest hit. Repeatedly.
Hope he's masking. He could cough up some aerosols that got into somebody's asshole.
They are all tied for last place - - - - - - - - -
Major rules should of course come from the legislative branch.
The purpose of executive branch administrators is to fill in the gaps or provide tiny details, not to invent brand new rules.
Ultimately though we desire a world without these rules in the first place, because individuals will, in the main, make enlightened choices on their own without coercion or heavy-handed government regulation.
So good for SCOTUS for restoring some power back to the legislative branch, but now comes the much harder part of obviating the need for any of these rules in the first place, whether they come from Congress or the Executive, by persuading our fellow citizens on good stewardship of the environment.
…persuading our fellow citizens on good stewardship of the environment.
Do you own an automobile, water your lawn or use air conditioners and disposable plastic items?
"...persuading our fellow citizens on good stewardship of the environment..."
Self-righteous scumbag. Up yours with a running, rusty chainsaw
Why, yes I do!
I own an automobile, and it is a reasonably fuel-efficient one.
I do water my lawn, but I do so judiciously.
I do use disposable plastic items, but I use non-plastic ones whenever I can.
The standard should not be "perfection", because that is an impossible standard for anyone (myself included of course), the standard ought to be "doing better than before".
Who are you to decide what constitutes "judiciously?"
Your standard of "judicious" may be too lenient and result in unnecessary water waste.
That's why we have government agencies, staffed with enlightened experts, to tell us those things.
Sure, my standard of "judicious" could be too lenient.
That is why we have experts whom we ought to consult when we want to know the answer to a question.
We have this thing called 'division of labor' in this country, in which different people specialize in different fields. Not everyone can be a Renaissance Man, you know. Some people specialize to such an extent that they may be regarded as authoritative experts in the field.
I disapprove of your standard for judicious use. I think it wastes too much water. Your water waste negatively effects me. I want the government to do somethong and about this. You need to be stopped.
Okay, Karen.
Except you switch experts w government agents and seek to push your often wrong beliefs on others.
Also, who are you to decide what "reasonably fuel efficient" means? What's the exact MPG rate that makes a vehicle reasonably fuel efficient?
Above average? Better than the last car I drove? It is of course a subjective determination, and each person should make that determination for him/herself knowing best what would work best in his/her own life. That is why I don't want one single mandate imposed on everyone. Instead I would encourage people to consult experts to determine a fuel efficiency standard that would work best for his/her own life.
Jeffy thinks everyone should drive a vehicle with above average MPG. He’s really that stupid.
Continuing to breathe proves you don't give a shit about polluting the environment, and merely want others to sacrifice their standard of living to your evil cult.
Why?
No actually fucking why?
The earth will keep spinning, life will evolve past us, and we're all dead in the end eventually. To believe that humans should be "stewards" of the environment implies it has no agenda. It does in fact, have one. And it doesn't include us.
It is called "not being an asshole" and "being respectful of your surroundings".
That's not an answer to my question. That's a statement that you disapprove of how I run things. More importantly, it ignores the obvious: Humans are insignificant to nature. We are appointed it's mastery.
No, you and your green cult are definitely being assholes.
Look at gas, energy, and food prices.
You demand that others' lives be diminished to satisfy your idiotic misanthropic beliefs.
Because people want it to be a nice place for future generations to live in? I don't think CO2 should be a major concern, but there are things that are actual pollutants that can make things pretty unpleasant.
Of course the planet will be fine.
by persuading our fellow citizens on good stewardship of the environment.
What do you do when the mainstream, accepted methods which are being... persuaded... are probably doing more harm to the environment? For instance, price signals are a way of determining the energy inputs into a process. If recycling were saving the environment, the recycling company would be paying me to take my blue bin every week, not the other way around.
,but now comes the much harder part of obviating the need for any of these rules in the first place, whether they come from Congress or the Executive, by persuading our fellow citizens on good stewardship of the environment.
A sizable number of your fellow citizens already disagree in good faith on what constitutes good stewardship. You just can't help but qualify your statements to allow for the imposition of the 'greater good'. Such qualification effectively negates anything libertarian that proceeds it,
,but now comes the much harder part of obviating the need for any of these rules in the first place, whether they come from Congress or the Executive, by persuading our fellow citizens on good stewardship of the environment.
A sizable number of your fellow citizens already disagree in good faith on what constitutes good stewardship. You just can't help but qualify your statements to allow for the imposition of the 'greater good'. Such qualification effectively negates anything libertarian that proceeds it.
You can say that again.
Kate Aronoff says minority rule is a threat. I use to hear that when I was a kid in Arkansas from white supremacists.
Thomas made that statement in an opinion criticizing the court for taking up a case involving religious exemptions to a New York vaccine mandate.
It sucks that even Thomas can't see that there is no need for a religious exemption to find that the government has no constitutional power to force injections of ANYTHING, or ANY medical procedure, onto its citizens.
sad!
"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Deep State, Swamp and all un elected and bureaucratic controlled agencies of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic (especially domestic) ; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God."
Well, I'll be damned; fascists like fascism.
whodathunkit?
If, as is desirable, the decision presages similar ones, they could, cumulatively, revive Congress by compelling it to resume its proper responsibilities...
Ha, good one.
Maybe we'll get the best of both worlds where the bureaucrats can no longer legislate but Congress continues to refuse to legislate.
In unrelated news, Denver surprised at a record number of application for nine unit housing projects.
Every 10th neighbor is just a clump of cells anyway.
If they really wanted to create affordable housing in Denver, they'd start bulldozing all the historic neighborhoods from Berkeley to Capitol Hill to Washington Park to Park Hill, and putting up condo developments in their place. Someone gets foreclosed on, the city takes over the property, knocks it to the ground, and puts up an apartment building. Start condemnation proceedings in the shithole neighborhoods and tear them to the ground. Pass an "affordable housing" millionaire surtax on all the champagne socialist assholes with mansions and second/third homes in the ski areas to help pay for it.
Hell, they could even do that dumb New Urbanist "mixed use" shit that was so trendy 20 years ago, and put some apartments on top of a grocery store or lolweeeeeeedduuuuuuuuuude shop.
Stop trying to tax me.
Eh, what I proposed will hurt the deep blue Democrats in that city, so for me it's a bonus.
The legislative branch need to stop lining their pockets and begin doing the work they were elected to do instead of relying on the other branches. Law making is not the role of either the executive or judicial branches.
The legislative branch deserves the primary blame for the difficulties and turmoil we are experiencing. How can it be that a "Public Servant" can enter the legislative branch as a pauper and retire as a multi-millionaire?
Well, Florida's "Don't Say Gay" law goes into effect today.
And already school boards are amending their policies.
Here is one from the Leon County school board:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22074439-the-leon-county-school-districts-lgbtq-inclusive-guide-with-amendments
So with the amendments, if kids are going to go on a school trip, or share a locker room, with a student who is transgender, the school board is going to notify all the parents of all the kids and tell them that, and ask if they want an accommodation for their kid.
So of course the effect of this will be to completely stigmatize and humiliate the transgender kid, even though the kid's name won't be given out, it likely wouldn't be hard to figure out who it is.
Stop encouraging kids to troon out and there won't be any issues.
Yes we know, it's okay to stigmatize and humiliate the weirdos, because schools should indoctrinate kids into a specific narrow normative standard of acceptable behavior.
It is actually okay to stigmatize and humiliate wierdos into acting within normative standards of acceptable behavior. High-trust, stable societies do it all the time.
And indeed, the longest lived societies are the most exclusionary.
Pluralism is fundamentally self-destructive.
The funny thing here is that chemtard acts as if he's the only one on this board that was ever bullied as a child.
Kids with munchie parents that are trooning their kid out for liberal social status buttpats, or marxist teachers promoting it in the interests of increasing social alienation, should be told by their peers, "No, you're a boy, not a girl, stop acting like one or I won't play with you," until they get sick of playing pretend, and tell their parents to stop putting them in dresses and telling the school to let them piss in the girls bathroom.
Troonery is the only mental illness that's actually enabled and affirmed by the educational system to where the entire social structure has to be revamped to agree with someone's delusions about their biology.
And what if the peers don't do that?
What if the peers don't enforce the type of social conformity that you demand? Then what?
What if fatass collectivistjeff is actually able to catch a prepubescent child one of these days? What then?
Then, whatever makes your lefty boos uncomfortable.
So your ideal society is one that is rigid and conformist?
It's one where your worldview is marginalized.
You want to marginalize libertarian views? Well that makes total sense now.
No, I want to marginalize your views. Not the same thing.
LOL! I just realized that jeffy is Piggy. That kid so obnoxious and self righteous that others will get together and drop a rock on his head to get him to shut up.
Never seen a better analysis of what I have observed for the last 5 years, jeffy.
But then, you also think it's okay to let more child molesters in to the country, so it's not a surprise that you see it as a negative.
Yes we know, it's okay to gaslight and castrate the kids, because schools should indoctrinate kids into a specific deviant standard of sexual behavior.
Speaking of indoctrinate, what's the non-pedo equivalent of the alphabet sex cult, Jeff? Is there a month to celebrate adult heterosexuals fucking?
it's okay to stigmatize and humiliate the weirdos, because schools should indoctrinate kids into a specific narrow normative standard of acceptable behavior.
Telling kids they can't stigmatize and humiliate the weirdos IS indoctrinating kids into a specific narrow normative standard of acceptable behavior. What the fuck is wrong with you?
So of course the effect of this will be to completely stigmatize and humiliate the transgender kid, even though the kid's name won't be given out, it likely wouldn't be hard to figure out who it is.
Umm, the students already know who it is.
Yeah, it's not exactly something you can keep private.
In fact, the whole point is how you present yourself to the world. Transitioning is literally outing yourself.
The students do, and now the parents will too.
Jeff is pro government childcare and not giving agency to parents apparently
A couple of weeks ago he was arguing that the parents can decide if the kids should be castrated.
Here is what I *actually* said on the subject, since ML can't be trusted to reliably relate my actual views on the matter.
https://reason.com/2022/06/29/alabama-draws-on-supreme-courts-new-abortion-decision-to-justify-trans-youth-treatment-ban/?comments=true#comment-9573478
ML was spot on. Your argument ignores the simple fact that there is no compelling reason to allow parents to make this decision in lieu of simply waiting for their child to make the decision for themselves upon emancipation.
Your argument definitively allows parents the decision to castrate their child with the fallacious caveat that they rely on experts.
the state should only get involved if there is very clear evidence that there is actual child abuse going on. At least that used to be the libertarian position.
It is still the libertarian position.
the state should only get involved if there is very clear evidence that there is actual child abuse going on. At least that used to be the libertarian position.
So you didn't link your original statements, but you backpedalling on it?
If you do not trust parents with the authority to know what medical decisions are best for their kids, then how can you trust them with, say, school choice?
Just fucking lol. Wow. What a shitty authoritarian statement here.
This post doesn't help you. You are attacking parents for their decisions. And you ignore permanent life altering surgeries as a simple choice. This post makes you look terrible.
What were you saying again about arguing honestly?
An honest response would be along the lines of, "I disagree with your argument for the following reasons..."
But instead your response was to completely misrepresent my position and throw in gratuitous insults.
It is because you cannot argue honestly with me because you hate me. Just admit it Jesse.
An honest response would be along the lines of, "I disagree with your argument for the following reasons..."
Which is what I did and you have so far ignored it.
As is his wont.
So?
Hiding sexual shit from parents is just about the groomiest thing a teacher can do.
Should parents be entitled to know if there is a transgender student in the same class as their student? Is that "sexual shit" that parents ought to be informed of?
Yes.
You're moving goalposts, but in some situations probably, yeah.
Especially if it's an intact male using the washroom and gym showers with their daughters.
And trust me, the girls know which boy is going into the bathroom already.
In which Jeffy discovers that kids are intolerant assholes.
Have you ever had kids?
He's definitely a virgin. So, no.
Can't knock up a cotton sock.
Did you actually read the amendments? It applies to students who are "open about their gender identity." They're not outing anyone.
Just stop.
I didn't say they were outing anyone. I'm saying that they are treating transgender kids as if they were lepers.
Firing teachers and administrators who incentivize the kid to believe that "being uncomfortable in their body" means they're actually transgender should be the next step.
Firing them is rather lenient
Giving parents the option to seek reasonable accomodations is not treating trans kids like they are lepers. The accomodations are for the OTHER kid.
You are an alarmist retard.
The accommodations are available for both: the transgender child, and for all of the other kids, if their parents don't want their kids to be near the icky leper transgender kid.
"if their parents don't want their daughter to share private space with a boy against their will"
Fixed it for you.
You know, I'm trying to find a way that attempts to accommodate the desires of everyone involved that doesn't result in stigmatizing the poor transgender student. Do you have any ideas?
Sorry but boys who think they are girls still aren't allowed in my daughter's locker room or overnight hotel room on school trips.
Same goes for boys who think they are a dog, they dont get a special accommodation to be put up in a kennel.
Same for boys who think they are the teacher! They dont get to run the class.
I dont know if that means they are not "stigmatized" but that's just the way it is.
There's a big difference between "stigmatizing" someone and simply not bending to every whim and demand they have.
Do the kids that think they are super heros get to jump off the roof?
id be tempted to say that if they are children of liberal munchies, then maybe.
But that's not fair. The kids brains havent fully developed, and at least have a chance to not end up as fucked up as their parents.
No you're not.
"Well, Florida's "Don't Say Gay" law goes into effect today."
1. Its called Florida Parental Rights law
2. Good
dont let boys share locker rooms with girls. It's not that hard to understand.
Good.
Hopefully you kill yourself, groomer.
Lefty Jeffy doesn’t think parents should know if their children are being forced by their school to shower with kids of the opposite sex.
We never had this transgender when when I was in high school in.the first half of the 1990's.
Instead, such a sweeping program would have to be explicitly authorized by Congress, said Chief Justice John Roberts in a majority opinion.
I'm noticing a pattern of Democrats not wanting things returned to Democracy. Is that irony? I can never tell.
I've observed lately that "democracy" appears at this point to just mean "maintaining the current entrenched political order".
I haven't had a chance to go to Democracy Now! and see what their opinion on returning the question of abortion back to the people is.
Democrats never, ever, valued democracy.
Indeed.
https://simulationcommander.substack.com/p/supreme-court-losses-reveal-ugly
It’s also worth pointing out that even as the left holds themselves up as defenders of democracy, they continue to ignore the actual rules of the Republic. Constitutionally, abortion is a state issue. (It’s right there in the 10th Amendment!) The more contentious an issue, the closer to home it should be decided. You have much more power over your state politicians than your national politicians, and if worse comes to worst, you can move to another state with a political leaning more to your liking.
In other words, moving this decision down to the states is an unadulterated win for democracy. They should be happy, right? Of course not. When democracy doesn’t go your way, it’s time to burn it all down. Over the weekend, way too many ‘important’ people were discussing where exactly on the plantation Clarence Thomas should work. (And you can be sure that if the Supreme Court enacted a national abortion ban, blue states would be abortion ‘sanctuary states’)
These rulings have (once again) revealed the hypocrisy of the left. They have the exact same political principles as tantrum-throwing toddlers. But shouting “I want this and will scream until I get my way” is no way to go through life. Even worse is vandalizing and burning pregnancy centers while doing it.
So, SCOTUS is going to weigh in on the "independent legislature" theory.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/30/supreme-court-gop-independent-legislature-theory-reshape-elections-00043471
So the idea is, since Article I, Section 4 of the Constitution says:
"The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of chusing Senators."
it mentions only the state legislature specifically, and not any other level of state government. So, what are the state-level limits to the legislature's power to make election-related decisions, *if any*? Could the legislature make blatantly partisan and unfair election-related decisions and there would be no authority other than Congress to stop a state from doing so?
Seems to me, the phrase "state legislature" should not be taken so literally, and should be instead construed to mean the entirety of state government according to how it normally operates.
No. It means legislatures.
And to answer your questions, yes states should have the authority to make elections be unfair.
I will not disparage California for making itself a one party state. What they do is their business. If I wanted to not be under their system, I'd move.
And to answer your questions, yes states should have the authority to make elections be unfair.
Could you explain your reasoning for why you want states to have the legal authority to construct a blatantly and deliberately unfair electoral system?
The system set up was set up to give that power to legislatures. Legislatures are voted on by citizens. Their rules are deemed to be fair based upon the votes of the citizens.
How fucking dumb are you?
If the people don't agree they can vote for referendums or constitutional changes at the state level.
Are you honestly retarded?
You made it quite clear yesterday that your conversations with me are not motivated by good-faith argumentation but because of your personal hatred of me. So why should I even attempt to answer your question here in good faith?
No I didn't. Me saying you are a piece of shit when you are doesn't change any assertions. You can hate someone and argue honestly. The problem is you don't. Which is why you are hated.
So let me ask you this.
How do you determine what a fair election is? Vote on it? Elect people to decide on fair parameters? See the issue with your ignorant sophistry?
You can hate someone and argue honestly.
But that's not what you do.
I just attempted to in the prior post and you avoided the question. Lol.
Wow jeff. Never change man.
please don't stop being retarded, reading you, mike and tony get obliterated repeatedly is the highlight of this once-libertarian publication.
define "unfair" because every system for collecting, verifying, and tabulating votes will make tradeoffs vs. one person or another.
Sure, we can have a reasonable discussion of specific acts which might be fair vs. unfair. But at some point, there ought to be some line, no? Nobartium seems to think that there shouldn't be any line at all.
it's just that if the legislature has full power to conduct their elections any way they see fit, then it is by definition a "fair" election.
Really?
But one extreme example: Legislature sets polling times in Blue City to be for one hour only, 3am to 4am, on Election Day. Legislature sets polling times in Red City to be for one full month with polls open 24/7.
Fair?
do you have a more realistic example of something that actually has happened, or could realistically happen?
Well, the issue in this case was gerrymandering. Where legislators pick their own voters.
gerrymandering. Where legislators pick their own voters.
You seem fundamentally confused about what gerrymandering is. The goal is to incorporate your voters into other districts where your party is underrepresented.
Your misunderstanding is why you grossly overestimate its effect. It does not make poor representatives more likely to get elected over good representatives.
Who determines the line jeff? A single individual. Or do we vote on it?
See the idiocy you are advocating yet?
It's simple and it's the only collective right that libertarians can or should be in favor of: communities get to choose their members.
In the domain of elections, this means parties will always be favored over independents. I already laid out CA, but to go to the other extreme, I wouldn't blink if AL had zero black reps in any district.
Jeff argues we shouldn't use literal interpretations of laws but reinterpret laws most favorable to his side.
Here, Jesse declares he utterly hates me personally. So remember that when viewing his response to anything I write.
https://reason.com/2022/06/30/prevention-through-deterrence-is-how-you-get-53-dead-migrants-in-the-back-of-a-truck/?comments=true#comment-9576585
You are utterly hateable. How does that change the statement above?
I mean you've told me to fuck off multiple times. Does that mean all your assertions are invalid?
It means you can't be trusted to argue in good faith, as evidenced by your complete strawman claim above.
You do this all the time, Jesse: take what I say, interpret it in the worst possible light, even to the point of constructing outright lies, and then demand that I defend the fake position that you invented for me, all the while throwing in boatloads of logical fallacies, inversion of the burden of proof, and crass insults.
You're not honest, quite frankly I don't know if you have ever argued with me honestly, and you demonstrate exactly why - your hatred of me consumes any rational judgment you might have had.
Here is but one example of many:
https://reason.com/2022/06/30/prevention-through-deterrence-is-how-you-get-53-dead-migrants-in-the-back-of-a-truck/?comments=true#comment-9576292
In yesterday's discussion about the dead migrants in the truck, I wrote:
"I bet that decriminalizing/legalizing drugs would do more to prevent dead migrants in trucks than any border wall would."
And what was your response?
"Oh wait. You think everyone south of the border is a drug dealer. Forgot about your racism."
That is an absurd interpretation of my statement, *and you know it*. You take what I say, twist it in the most offensive manner possible, and throw it back at me as if that is my position.
You do this all the fucking time, Jesse. It is because you are fundamentally not honest when it comes to arguing with me. You're motivated by either mocking me, insulting me, or trying to entrap me. That's it. Not honest discussion.
I mean you keep avoiding simple questions above asking you for who you think decides what fair is. Odd youre avoiding that.
And here where you have made incorrect assumptions about my motives is more dishonest argumentation.
Attempting to dismiss assertions or arguments by using the post you linked to is dishonesty.
Jeff. Are you honestly retarded?
Not only does he avoid answer questions. He is limiting his responses to certain posters to maintain the illusion he is being victimized.
This is a continuance of the Motte and Bailey fallacy. When you make a unsupportable comment, retreat to a more supportable one. When that position crumbles, avoid answering questions by switching the subject. When someone draws attention to that, make accusations. When that fails to dissuade, just quit responding.
And your example above is hilarious. You posted an unfounded assertion completely bald and attributed all migration south of the border to the drug trade. It was a laughable assertion and deserves derision. Lol.
attributed all migration south of the border to the drug trade.
I did no such thing.
That is why you are dishonest.
He's not dishonest and definitely isn't the only person here who hates your lying guts.
it is always the leftists who want to redefine words to fit their narrative. vaccine no longer means what it did forever so the cdc could push worthless drugs as vaccines. now we have morons wanting to redefine "state legislature" to mean what ever they want. NO. the language in the constitution is so clear that an 8th grade student can understand it. you, like all leftists, just don't like it.
Turns out, the "evidence of witness tampering" against Trump is from... Cassidy Hutchinson. She described phone calls from "an intermediary" from Meadows.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/30/jan-6-hutchinson-meadows-mystery-messages-00043638
Jesus Christ, this is getting truly ridiculous.
whats the opposite of walls closing in?
Another bombshell, tipping point, the beginning of the end.
the roof being blown off, I think.
And?
Do you believe the phone calls were fake?
Do you believe hearsay is the truth?
It is, as long as it's UNDER OATH.
Yes. She's a proven liar.
Bullshit, Trump grabbed the wheel from the back of the Presidential limo! Devastating testimony. Devastating! Proof of insurrection!
I think everything you say is stupid.
https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1542674545202569218?s=20&t=T_E35EOXu-ej2s_BPrC8uQ
Clarence Thomas doesn't go to NBA games, so he isn't authentically black.
I bet he doesn't even like fried chicken.
I don't know. He sure looks like he likes fried chicken.
They won't be happy until they see Clarence Thomas sitting barefoot in coveralls, eating a big ol' slice of watermelon on the steps of the supreme court.
The media will give wall to wall coverage to obvious "racist" hoaxes that everyone can tell didnt happen.
But someone says something as blatantly racist as "that black doesn't even go to NBA games!!" and crickets.
This is why when they call people "racist" the only correct response is "meh" or "fuck off".
They dont care, they have never cared. Its just a cudgel to keep loyal blacks and trembling little leftist white "allies" in line.
That may happen with the new black Justice but since she is not a botanist, she cant say whether it is a watermelon. And!!!,....since she is not an architect, you cant say whether it is the steps of the Supreme Court
She really fucked herself with her idiotic "im not a biologist" response. Serves her right to be utterly mocked.
brought to you by definitely the party of not racists
And yet the NBA is one of those cultural things that arguably really hurts blacks. It sells them the idea that they can get rich playing basketball, yet it's probably the hardest sport to succeed at, given the very limited number of roster spots compared to other sports.
It also really pushes shoe culture, where you aren't cool if you don't own super-expensive shoes (often made by slave labor, ironically) which either forces kids to turn to crime for the money for shoes, or spend honestly made money on them that could have gone something more practical.
also those limited spots are often filled with naturally gifted people (appropriately so). Your chances of getting in the NBA if you are good and work hard every day at 5'10 are miniscule compared to that same work ethic with a 6'7+ frame.
So even though it could be a good tool for teaching meritocracy and work ethic, theres just always going to be a significant body dynamics gate keeping that just wont allow short people to make it.
Well of course 'lawmakers are furious'.
That means they have to personally go on record with a vote on the floor of the house or senate to get what they want.
This is a great step from SCOTUS, finally blocking over-reach of the administrative state of the executive branch.
The best means of determining the intent of congress with regard to legislation is to ask the legislature their intent. Fifty year old statutes surely did not contemplate regulating CO2 and every aspect of the energy sector.
If the executive branch wants that, then go to congress. Democrats in the house are mad because they don't want to support by vote the thing they pretend to support.
You mean Congress will actually have to do the job we pay them to do? Oh the humanity! What a bunch of lazy tools. They wanted the EPA to do their dirty work. Now they will have to go on the record when they enact this nonsense. No more hiding.
So, the branch of our government charged with legislating will have to legislate. How will they ever find time for show trials?
Government agencies (EPA) and been quietly doing the dirty work for the mostly democrat elected officials by acting anonymous, autonomous and independent of oversite by the people governed. You and me. No one knows the names of the mostly democrat staff-packed agencies masquerading as non-partisan career bureaucrats. This SC ruling is a good start to end this.
This is a reasonable, narrow decision. Those of you who are criticizing the decision because of the threat of climate change need to think about what it would mean if such broad power was given to a future president trump to use vague laws to advance his own policies. this opinion will simply force Congress to do its job or cause the states to use their own authorities to rein in carbon emissions.
WV vs EPA is so good. It keeps the politicians from changing the rules via an Executive Order changing the interpretation of the law.
It's no wonder their furious. They can no longer change the rules so easily, while making bets in the stock market with their inside knowledge of the change. Instead, they'll have to go through the legislative process and actually pass a bill. That inhibits political power to extract campaign contributions out of commerce from the greedy rich seeking government favors to put their competitors out of business, plus the contributions from the competitors who don't want to be put out of business. That's one way political power makes us poorer, while more freedom would make us more prosperous.
"Capping carbon dioxide emissions at a level that will force a nationwide transition away from the use of coal to generate electricity may be a sensible 'solution to the crisis of the day,'" wrote Roberts. "But it is not plausible that Congress gave EPA the authority to adopt on its own such a regulatory scheme in [the Clean Air Act]. A decision of such magnitude and consequence rests with Congress itself.
I haven't read the decision or dissents yet, but I take issue with Robert's framing of the question. The Clean Air Act was passed by Congress some 50 years ago and has been used to deal with a huge amount of pollution of many kinds from many sources in that time. I would say that many of those regulations were of "such magnitude and consequence". It also isn't the "crisis of the day". It is a crisis of generations that the Republican side has been trying to belittle and diminish for over 30 years. Ask people in Utah, Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada, and California whether it is simply a crisis of the day. They are in seriously deep shit as the Colorado River continues to dry up and it is clearly visible just how low reservoirs like Lake Powell and Lake Mead have become.
I'm wondering how much of what the Republican majority here decided is based on the text of the law, how much is based on their own view on whether greenhouse gas emissions count as pollution, and how much is simply an ideological effort to weaken federal agencies.
SCOTUS Said Ambitious Climate Regulations Need To Come From Congress.
Lawmakers Are Furious That They Might Have To Actually Do Their Job Which Could Threaten Their Reelection Chances
"Ambitious climate regulations" already came from Congress.
When Congress gave the EPA the power, back before Conservatism/Libertarianism became a suicide pact.
Okay, maybe Libertarianism was always a suicide pact, but not Conservatism.
We should have a contest to see who here is the biggest keyboard warrior, GG or Nardz.
Correction: rule BY law (and if laws do not exist in the necessary form, they can be created at the bench).
I bet those motherfuckers had the gall to walk wrong way in the supermarket during the heart of CoofMania.
Will wait Geiger.
In the meantime the GOP has won 1 popular vote for president since 1988 - 19 fucking 88! The GOP has had Senate representation - that's the place bills go to die - that represented a majority of the population last time in 1996, and then by .1%.
You control the SC because the GOP stole 2 seats from popularly elected presidents and handed them to a 2 time loser - Hillary by 3 million, Biden by almost 8 million.
You think you're with the majority? Not in America.
You think you're with the majority? Not in America.
Is that why no more than 25% have ever supported "abortion all the way up until the umbilical cord is cut" like you do, Joe?
You control the SC because the GOP stole 2 seats from popularly elected presidents and handed them to a 2 time loser - Hillary by 3 million, Biden by almost 8 million.
LOL, open wide, clinger. You're about to get even more progress steamrolled down your throat.
You think you're with the majority? Not in America.
I know, right? It's a good thing we are a Constitutional Republic and our elections are not decided by the popular vote.
Left wingers pretend they support Democracy. But in reality their goal is bureaucratic autocracy where unelected left wingers whose rise to power is solely by appealing to other left wingers make the rules. This is how Europe ended up with the EU, and we with the Deep State.
Dems admitted this when they voted for Elizabeth Warren's CFPB which granted its unelected and un-fireable head effectively unlimited power over business. So it's greatly amusing when their performance art includes lamenting our lost Democracy.
You think you're with the majority? Not in America.
Oh yes, in America.
You're with the majority as well.
But you are unaware of exactly WHAT majority you're a part of.
Most americans want abortion kept legal.With restrictions
See those last two words? That's the actual majority.
Total bans and On demand are the outliers.
Those two words are why the left needed Roe. Because they can't win if they go to the people.
Because the people want restrictions.
It's all like that.
California held an election and decided that marriage was between one man and one woman. Califuckingfornia. Democrat voters pushed it over the top. DEMOCRATS.
They had to use the courts to nullify what Californian Democratic voters had done.
Do you get that?
The People don't want what you're selling. Not even Democrats. Just ask the Obama voters that handed Trump the White House.
Your tears are delicious Joe Asshole. Keep them coming.
Again, the popular vote is not a thing.
The majority doesn’t support anything you believe in.
You’re not the majority. Even if you were, it won’t last long. Given the rate of migration from the democrat, and to the Republican parties.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/more-than-1-million-voters-switch-to-gop-raising-alarm-for-democrats
“More than 1 million voters across 43 states have switched to the Republican Party over the last year, according to voter registration data analyzed by The Associated Press. The previously unreported number reflects a phenomenon that is playing out in virtually every region of the country — Democratic and Republican states along with cities and small towns — in the period since President Joe Biden replaced former President Donald Trump.”
I wouldn't call it amusing. It's actually quite alarming that they unironically consider a bureau headed by an unaccountable left-wing bureaucrat to be an example of democracy. It's really Leninist in its most direct form--"anything run by us is democratic; anything not run by us is fascist."
It's true.
But if collectivistjeff would like to visit Jacksonville or inform me of his travel plans, I'll be happy to let him test his theory when convenient.
I don’t call him Lying Jeffy for nothing.