The First Amendment Protects Everyone, Even Facebook and Twitter
Florida passed a law to stop big tech “censorship.” But the law itself tramples First Amendment rights.

The last few years have seen a flurry of efforts from both right and left to regulate how social media platforms police their users. These laws and proposed laws have raised a key constitutional question: Is a platform's power to moderate user-created content protected by the First Amendment?
So far, courts have consistently held that platforms do have such protection. A critical case to be decided by the Eleventh Circuit in the new year will be the most important yet to address that question.
The law at issue is Florida's SB 7072, a sweeping measure ostensibly enacted to stop censorship by big tech. SB 7072 forces platforms to host all content from registered political candidates and "journalistic enterprises," even if that content would violate the platforms' terms of service. The law also imposes a consistency provision, which forces a platform to take down (or leave up) content if a judge rules that the platform has previously taken down (or left up) similar content. The law imposes penalties of up to $250,000 for each instance of noncompliance.
Florida Republicans argue that their "freedom of speech as conservatives is under attack by the 'big tech' oligarchs in Silicon Valley" and that SB 7072 "is about the 22 million Floridians and their First Amendment rights." By calling the bill a defense of free speech and by calling the platforms' content moderation "censorship," these supporters obscure the critical fact that editorial choices by private actors are categorically different from the abridgement of free speech by the state.
This distinction is crucial because the government is, and always will be, a monopoly; when it bans speech, citizens have no recourse. Private speech platforms, by contrast, have competition. Whether they are new social media companies or traditional newspapers, these platforms can only decide what speech they host and present. Those unsatisfied with their choices can choose to read or contribute elsewhere.
That difference is why the Supreme Court unanimously struck down a similar Florida law in 1974. By compelling newspapers to run editorials written by politicians they had criticized, the high court explained, the law infringed the papers' editorial right to choose what speech they print. Private citizens have the right to respond to criticism, but not the right to force others to host their speech.
So when Florida argued nearly 50 years later that SB 7072 is on the side of free speech, a federal district court correctly and unsurprisingly deemed those arguments "wholly at odds with accepted constitutional principles."
Florida nonetheless claims that social media platforms are not protected by these traditional First Amendment principles. The state argues that a social media site does not present a sufficiently "unified speech product" and that platforms have not engaged in enough content moderation in the past to merit a right to do so in the future. But as explained in a recently filed amicus curiae brief on behalf of the Cato Institute (which one of us co-wrote), the First Amendment's protections are not contingent on either of these criteria.
Private actors have a First Amendment right to choose what they say, what speech they host, and how they arrange it, regardless of the coherence of the speech they host or the extent to which they have edited that speech in the past. The First Amendment protects the editorial rights of all platforms, not just a privileged class of institutional media that have already engaged in heavy content moderation.
When he signed 7072, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis likened social media platforms' content moderation to the "tyrannical behavior" of Fidel Castro and Hugo Chavez. If DeSantis is really concerned about free speech and authoritarianism, he should think twice before giving the government more control over private communications platforms.
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Reason thinks an attacked army should fight their enemy by throwing flowers. Maybe a law that tramples censorship is what is needed to get all censorship to the Supreme court and get the chicken excrement justices to finally rule.
Just build your own Internet, MAGAt! Seriously, why can't conservatives understand that freedom of speech never meant free access to the printing press (or any other form of media).
Funny how freedom only applies when it benefits democrats.
If your opinion is so shit that no one wants to carry it then maybe you should think on that instead of trying to force private property to bend to your will.
Or, like the above said, start your own shit platform where you and the rest of the idiots can fling feces at each other.
Scepter that in no way reflects the current situation. But then, you’re a lying shitweasel. So this is to be expected.
Liberty Lover says that the Intergalactic Sub-Smegmonic Boogoidian-Strawmen-Hybrids have deployed thrown-flowers-beams and booger-beams (Those unspeakable BASTARDS) and have hijacked ALL of our tinfoil hats! You (tinfoil hatless ones) have my sympathies, but no more… I have no good advice for you, sorry! Other victims of the Intergalactic Sub-Smegmonic Boogoidian-Strawmen-Hybrids that I have known? They all ended up on Skid Row, and I could NOT help them! I tried, I really did!
SCROTUS just MIGHT cum to your emotional rescue, though, and decree that YOUR tribe may pussy-grab the WRONG tribe(s), and control their speech, and the WRONG tribe will NEVER be allowed to pussy-grab you right back! That just MIGHT work... Till the next round of elections and SCROTUS appointments!
By calling the bill a defense of free speech and by calling the platforms' content moderation "censorship," these supporters obscure the critical fact that editorial choices by private actors are categorically different from the abridgement of free speech by the state.
So they are publishers after all. Glad at least one Koch whore admits it.
Section 230's platform protection no longer applies.
"Section 230's platform protection no longer applies." 'Cause Nobartium the SnowFartium wants to snow us all with its brain farts! I for one know authoritarian dicktatorshits when I see them!
Hey EvilBahnFuhrer… No matter HOW many times you tell your “Big Lie”, it is NOT true! You’re part of the mob, aren’t you, gangster? For a small fee, you tell small businesses that you will “protect” them… From you and your mob! Refute the below, ye greedy authoritarian who wants to shit all over the concept of private property!
Look, I’ll make it pretty simple for simpletons. A prime argument of enemies of Section 230 is, since the government does such a HUGE favor for owners of web sites, by PROTECTING web site owners from being sued (in the courts of Government Almighty) as a “publisher”, then this is an unfair treatment of web site owners! Who SHOULD (lacking “unfair” section 230 provisions) be able to get SUED for the writings of OTHER PEOPLE! And punished by Government Almighty, for disobeying any and all decrees from Government Almighty’s courts, after getting sued!
In a nutshell: Government Almighty should be able to boss around your uses of your web site, because, after all, Government Almighty is “protecting” you… From Government Almighty!!!
Wow, just THINK of what we could do with this logic! Government Almighty is “protecting” you from getting sued in matters concerning who you chose to date or marry… In matters concerning what line of work you chose… What you eat and drink… What you read… What you think… Therefore, Government Almighty should be able to boss you around on ALL of these matters, and more! The only limits are the imaginations and power-lusts of politicians!
Section 230 protections are contingent upon "good faith" moderation, not what ever the platform owner wants to do.
Government protection, good faith or otherwise, is government thumbing one side of the free market scales and the other side of the equal protections scales.
There could be a case that, in the case of abuse of the court system, especially with regards to 2, 3, 4, 5 etc. Amendments, the DOJ expressing dissent or restraint one way or the other, or even Congress passing a law. Even for the 1A there's a case for the DOJ/Executive, but when it comes to the 1A, the Constitution is unequivocal as to Congress's role.
Even at that, with (e.g.) birth control mandates, the unequivocal statement is regarded as inviolate much the same way "shall not be infringed" is.
"So they are publishers after all. Glad at least one Koch whore admits it."
If it weren't for double standards Reason would have no standards at all.
Thank you! Can't have it both ways.
"If DeSantis is really concerned about free speech and authoritarianism"
He's not.
Or, if he is, it is only to the extent that real americans (right-leaning) should not be squelched by a bunch of evil tech people based in a blue state, that hate real americans and are trying to shut up the real americans and stop them from speaking the honest-to-goodness truth.
But those are just silly talking points. Doing this polls well. It's as simple as that.
Yup-yup-yo and a bottle of rum!
What else polls well is "MY tribe's lies leading to violence against YOUR tribe GOOD; YOUR tribe's lies leading to violence against MY tribe BAD!"
You have to understand the origin of the censors and masters of truth at big tech come from. This is how it works: Big tech starts as little tech. They need capital and get it from hedge funds. Hedge funds are run mostly by NYC Ivy League assholes. They bring in the "business side" for the start up, mostly their friends and relatives who are not engineers but poly sci or gender studies far lefties who get the VP jobs running content. Look at who is doing this at FB, YouTube, and Twitter..they are all pretty much the same "group." These are far left elitist folks who have a hatred of real America (as most of them come from Russian/Eastern European socialist stock and have had "old world grudges" since their great grandparents arrived). Believe me we would be better off if we had evangelicals or mormons running the business side at Big Tech than these NYC red diaper commies. They are a foreign enemy and should be treated as such.
I am an independent researcher of many things. I went to check my past tweets of my @DavidVognar4 account and they don't go back all the way to when I created that account. Twitter/NSA has prevented me from viewing my tweets, especially a promising paper about how to reverse necrosis in human liver cells.
youre a bullshit artist. Publish your olpaper instead if playing Twitter, which proves youre just an idiot playing social games on line
daveca == cloaca
I think you miss the key issue with HOW social networks are censoring information.
They aren't just eliminating it because they say they don't like the philosophy or political argument.
They are deleting posts, or marking them as misinformation or mistruths.
The Hunter Biden Laptop story was censored for being a lie. Then it was censored for being hacked data. While at the same time Trump's Stolen Tax returns were being published and shared on the same social networks.
A social network can censor content all the want if they are honest about WHY they are censoring it.
But if they are calling the truth a lie (remember you couldn't share the possibility of a lab leak because it was determined to be a lie, because it didn't align with whatever the CDC said at the time, you couldn't share the Hunter Biden Laptop story, and you won't be able to share countless others as they label them a lie) they are not just censoring but slandering the truth.
A law that fines a social network for labelling anything proven true as a lie, and pays the user that was censored in sharing that information would do a nice job in making them a little more reluctant to call something a lie without proof.
AND THAT is not a violation of the 1st amendment.
Fine- try them in court for slander or libel.
You don't get to censor a private platform because they hurt your feelings and removed your bullshit you snowflake.
Fine- try them in court for slander or libel.
Explicit to S230, you can't. Not their speech. De rigueur, even if they knowingly and intentionally edit what you say to say the opposite, it's not their speech, it's yours. Unless you make money off of it in some unapproved fashion, then it's their speech to silence/disown. This, if it were a private contract, would generally be unconscionable, but because it's a law enacted Congress's immaculate foresight, it can't be unconscionable.
Typical cunt democrat, always talking tough, but when it’s time to square off face to face, you get cower or get your ass handed to you.
Democunts. Has a nice ring to it.
It rolls off the tongue better than cuntocrat.
You know very well that we don't have functional slander protections. In fact, when the computer repairman tried to do so against Twitter, they used a SLAPP law against him, so he had to pay their court costs despite calling him a criminal is transparent libel per-se.
SLAPP was intended to protect Davids against Goliaths, but it is being used by Goliaths to crush every person that tries to fight against these mega-corporations.
The issue as I see it is that currently the Gov and Big Tech are in the midst of a fascist cooperative arrangement. As such, Big Tech is an appropriate target.
Private actors have a First Amendment right to choose what they say, what speech they host, and how they arrange it, regardless of the coherence of the speech they host or the extent to which they have edited that speech in the past.
Well, except for common carriers, the porn industry, the tobacco industry, anybody making a medical device that requires FDA approval, anybody producing food that's regulated by the FDA, anybody using a medical device with their patients, anybody with medical information about patients to insurers a priori, brewers and distillers, anybody who's speaking to their own employees, landlords to (potential) tenants (before *and* after the CDC's mandate), bus drivers, what pretty much any group (including just parents in a school district) on any sort of list can say among themselves, pretty much anybody speaking to Russians for any reason... actually, the list would be shorter if we just noted major private entities that seemed to have an unfettered right to spread misleading and defamatory information far and wide as a service or platform. Oh, right...
We are at war with the Marxist democrats. They are making a coordinated move to transform this country into something resembling Communist China. Among the democrats allies are the largest social media companies, including Facebook, and Twitter. So they have to be stopped.
Florida’s legislation isn’t ideal, but sitting back and defending on the left to play fair will lead to our destruction. We need to destroy them before they do the same to us.
Get help you deranged mental patient.
Silence you fucking shitweasel retard.
Destroy the kaiju. Rebuild over their broken rotting carcasses.
Facebook and Twitter are part of the free-market. No-one is FORCED to use them. Gov monopolizing the industry is the LAST thing/power the Gov-Gods should have.....
It's actually the very root of the mess; with Democratic Congressmen making demands directly to Facebook and Twitter and both scared of the Nazi-Regime enough to obey.
I'm afraid I see your 'fix' as the 'problem' not the 'solution'.
Just making them be vulnerable to defamation suits would solve half the problem.
I don’t know the solution to the other half is . The political weaponization of communication services Is terrifying. The ridiculousness of ignoring this because their private is enough, for the first time in my whole life to make me think of nationalizing Private companies.
That is a Beyond a terrible solution. With terrible terrible irredeemable consequences. But if you let these information services keep acting like a 600 pound gorilla this is what will happen. You can do better than pretending there are no consequences To inaction.
When you are a government protected near monopoly (I think the hip term for this now is crony capitalism) Whom is near invulnerable to Litigation, It is no wonder they do not act in good faith.
"The political weaponization of communication services Is terrifying"
.And illegal.
Yep, there go Dorsey and Zuck, off to jail...
And, Troll, now youre attacking the Victim by blaming Users instead of Fbook.
I detect a Troll.
EVERY one of your comments is based on LIES
..ANd thats what Repubtards REFUSE to do.
Refuse. Which makes them useless at best or complicit
Daveca, as sad as it may make me, you’re not wrong.
Get the GOV-GUNS AWAY from the Press!
Too late by along time ago.
If Republicans want to end this leftard censorship; Kill off the Nazi-Regime laws (mark all as Anti-US Constitutional), Press charges against the Democratic Congress members that are Censors (there is an ever-growing list), and return to a Constitutional USA.
MORE Nazism isn't going to fix the Nazi-Regime.
So Troll you want congress to take the place of the Courts?
Its the COURTS place to do so.
Youre clearly Trolling from outside the US...or youre a moron or patholigucal liar.
Congressmen get impeached by congress not the courts.
I think a very good case for treason could be made against most democrat members of Congress. Certainly Eric Swallwell.
For the final time these companies are selling digital bulletin boards. As such they cannot discriminate as sellers based on race, ethnicity, religion and so on courtesy of the 1964 CRA. Yes, they can set up standards but can discriminate which I'm betting they do against conservatives and libertarians. Now before you say that is ok in the law..look at who they censor based on CRA..I think you would fine a disparate impact pretty easily. They censor say Catholics at a higher percentage than Jews...case proved...they discriminate and must ensure they don't censor say Catholics...
Reason pundits keep getting this wrong. Facebook and the other big social media sites ceased to be mere "private" companies when they accepted special dispensation from the government to censor content as if they were publishers while at the same time enjoying protection from liability for user content. They are now a government/corporate collaboration, which means the people through their elected representatives have a say in how they operate. If they don't like this arrangement, they should have two choices:
1. You're the phone company. You must carry all legal content from anyone without discrimination. You will suffer no liability for the content.
2. You're a publisher. You may choose what you carry and what you don't without interference, but you will be liable for the content.
If you wish to continue privileged status as a common carrier/publisher hybrid under special regulation, then shut up about your First Amendment rights when you don't like the details of the regulation.
2. You're a publisher. You may choose what you carry and what you don't without interference, but you
willcan be liable for the content.FIFY.
Nitpicky, but, OK. Didn't mean it to be a threat.
+1000
Yes. These corript corporations want to act like government..to do whatever they please...
Part Two of the King George of England problem was his using them to Eat Out the Sustainance of the Colonies and incorporate more control under law.
The Colonists had to kill people to get rid of BOTH King and Thieving Corporations.
The funny thing is you think that making social media companies liable for what they publish will make them more willing to publish lies and threats of violence.
If government blocks publication of material it disapproves of, that's censorship.
When private businesses block publication of material the government disapproves of, that's privatization of censorship.
Yes. The government may not end run the Constitution by contracting out activities from which it is prohibited to private contractors.
It would be like government hiring private security to go through your shit without a warrant because they can't do it themselves!
they ARE. A bank manager, yesterday, told me her bank directs them to question people with drawing money as to what theyre going to do with it.
When anyone blocks the publication of material, that's censorship. When the government motivates the blocking, it's a violation of the 1A no matter who actually does the blocking.
Even more correctly, when Congress motivates the blocking, it's a violation of the 1A, no matter who actually does the blocking.
yep
The Amendments do NOT create Rights.
They FORBID government to infringe.
Ar our legacy nuclear sites like Hanford, da Gummit established locations for church buildings, but did not ESTABLISH the religious practices. Thats not establishment of religion.
All publishers have always had the freedom to publish or not publish what they want. You people are the only ones arguing in favor of using government force to require private entities to speak in a way they don't want to speak.
If not government force, what are you proposing? How do you intend to force Facebook to publish right-wing lies? Be specific.
You people are the only ones arguing in favor of using government force to require private entities to speak in a way they don't want to speak.
You people? I haven't sued anyone. I have gotten a couple of notices that I may be owed part of at least one of Google's settlements.
You do not address Sec 230. One hand clapping.
So, just left-wing lies, and protected from libel?
Big tech media platforms have assumed the role of town square is the 21 st century.
According by SCOTUS , the more a private company opens its doors to the public the more their inalienable rights must be respected.
It doesn’t matter that big tech is private. They have chosen to exist financially by allowing the public to gather and speak.
We carry our inalienable rights with us everywhere we go. They can’t be taken away, sold or given away.
If big tech doesn’t like 1a, they should get out of the town square business. There is no inalienable right to censor a town square.
Individual Rights AREN'T *entitlements*. They ALL start with *congress shall make no law*... Says nothing about being inherently !!!!!--- ENTITLED --!!!! to anything.
Liar or idiot?
Youre one or the other.
Rights ARE entitled because the Founders believed and established they were inherent from God.
Lying bastards like you who know nothing of the US show youre foriegner Trolls...
Are you in Russia or China?
I'm a USA Patriot/Citizen - and as a patriot believe the USA is defined by the US Constitution. Yes, Human rights are inalienable from God they aren't GRANTED like *ENTITLEMENTS* from Gov however Gov-Guns often attempt to thwart inalienable rights.
That's where the Constitution comes in and ensures a monopoly of Guns cannot DICTATE the loss of god-given inalienable rights.... IT IS NOT - Gov-Granted...... Get a clue dumb*ss.
God or people origin, inalienable rights can’t be taken, sold or given away by anyone. They ere referred to in the Declaration of Independence. This is not a religious document.
Until god himself shows up to protect inalienable rights, we have to, through our elected governments.
From the Joooooooosssssss, right?
Sure you can censor a town square if people are gathering there to foment revolution or other violence. The speech you're whining about is pretty much all violence and lies. You've never had unfettered freedom to lie.
And they're not town squares. They're private social media companies that are under no obligation to offer you extra legal rights.
I can almost guarantee you've argued in favor of segregated lunch counters on private property grounds.
Your participation here contradicts your argument.
Reason puts forward articles of interest to people, the town.
People come here from all around to debate, argue or share their opinions. The premise being that at least one of them world answer the true question that the article represents.
If that isn’t a town square, nothing is.
The question is” do private companies that invite people to come together freely discussing important issues have the right to selectively censor groups of people?
Ironically; If all those complaining would just but STOP using Facebook and Twitter and encourage family and friends to do the same --- and setup accounts on Gab, StreetLoc, Parlor, Tic-Toc, etc, etc, etc, etc.....
The problem/complaints would be INSTANTLY solved by Free-Choice!
youre attacking the victims.
And Trolling
Oh those poor victims that every-day continue to make a CHOICE and then compulsively complains about it like they were ENTITLED to something Facebook and Twitter aren't offering.
You want to sue on terms of agreement fine. You want to try a monopoly case; fine. But this compulsive ENTITLEMENT to think Gov-Guns MUST force Facebook and Twitter to do this or that.... Limited Government??? My *ss....
These situations are exactly the difference between a RINO and a true Republican/Patriot. And the RINO just keeps pretending his Nazism is better than leftard Nazism only to find out again and again and again leftards will use the precedence of MORE-POWER against them.
TWO lying Writers?
1. The First Amenfldment does NOT grant or create rights. It forbids Government to infringe thereon.
2 Rights are INDIVIDUAL. They do not apply to corporations.
WE THE PEOPLE.
We fought a bloody Revolutionary War to get rid of BOTH King AND CORPORATION.
lmao.... I didn't know the Revolutionary War was about killing off corporations.
Tooneys farting in the fish tank! Me TV cartoon show. Thats Quality Entertainment!
I always thought Tony having a 30 minute tv show where he sits and monologues while drinking something really swishy would be good unintentional comedy. Kind of like the Buddy Cole sketches on The Kids in the Hall, with the excellent Scott Thomson. But much more retarded.
As many/ most Americans see our constitution as laws to insure our freedoms. The assumption that this document contains the laws that give us our rights and freedoms. These assumptions come from the teachings kids receive in school combined with the information spread by both government and media. The reason being the power government wants. Why go through all the legal ways to gain power only to have it fail if people believe you have the power and you act like you do not many will question it. without question the power is equal to having it. our constitution protects these freedoms by restricting the power pf government. While government cant restrict what you say it cant protect you from the consequences of what you say or do. Again as many assume you are protected it has limits. it cant protect you from censorship that comes from a private business. If a platform advertises a public forum and says it has equal access for all, then censors only a certain person or group type or religious benefit becomes as a fraudulent action when censorship isn't practiced equally. When censorship is used to repress the truth and promote the misleading or false statement it must not be government that enforces any laws. If we demand it then it always becomes governments version of the truth. This was the power used in Germany as it was in other nations to control its people. The laws needed are the ones that provide consequences that are applied to provide resolution to the damage done by false statements and done so with equal protection. government at any level must be held to the same standards. A good start would be to define what damages are and not limit them because someone is poor. I do hope I have conveyed my message, I am having some problems today trying to put my thoughts together. an unfortunate result of an aging brain. so if I seem to wander about in my post this is the reason. Thanks for reading my post------Grampa
Well said, "our constitution protects these freedoms by restricting the power of government."
Look, there are two problems .
1: The media companies who have set themselves up at moderators of discourse have been seen explicitly colluding, including shutting down websites and shaming banks into denying finance to their political opponents.
2: While we don't know for certain that they are explicitly taking orders from the Democratic Party, their preferences have been so brazen that they are no longer trying to pretend to be neutral.
3: The raid on James O'Keefe shows an even worse possibility, that the media companies might actually be directing the government, as it appears the FBI conducted a raid explicitly to benefit the New York Times.
The privatized Ministry of Truth is somehow even LESS palatable because there is no oversight.
So just like how FOX News colludes with the Republican party to the extent of being its de facto propaganda arm?
It's a free country. You're libertarians. Grow the fuck up. You're embarrassing yourselves.
And by 'colludes' you mean Republican officials censoring???
You're going to need a reference for that claim.
Lets see here 'Republican requests media censorship'
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'Democrats requests media censorship'
1,2,3,4,5,,, still going......................
Tony, you're a partisan-hack and a compulsive liar.
Fox news clearly supporting Republicans is fine, just as MSNBC clearly supporting Democrats is fine. A group of companies with a near-monopoly on online communications deciding to censor all actually discussion of a bribery scandal by a presidential candidate is not fine.
Nor was their decision to collude to shut down Parler acceptable. The combined force of four of the largest companies in the world (Twitter, Facebook, Amazon, and Google) worked in-tandem to remove Parler from the internet and prevent it from coming back. The fact that it eventually returned does not excuse the damage that their actions caused. If ANY other industry did this, it would be a transparent violation of anti-trust laws.
I agree that a media monopoly is a bad thing. As a libertarian, you're not supposed to care about that kind of thing either.
We're not going to repeal the First Amendment because Trump can't spread his treasonous lies on Twitter. Sorry.
Wow, that's some stubborn TDS you got there.
Tony, I genuinely have no idea what you are trying to say.
Rights need to be protected both from government entities as well as non-governmental entities.
The Supreme Court ruled that Coal Companies did not have the right to stop protestors in company towns. It might technically be company land, but by operating as a town, they were operating close enough to a government that they had to give freedom of speech. The current internet communication system has sufficient monopolies that this applies as well.
And the "treasonous lie" that Biden was accepting bribes as Vice President became "beyond a reasonable doubt fact" even before the laptop was found.
Tony, other than Gutfield & Carlson I think you’d be pretty darn comfortable with fox. How could you possibly have object to Chris Wallace (he’s always in the tank for progressive ideals), Neil Cavuto (worked in the Carter administration for For Goodness sakes.), Geraldo, and so many other progressives in the ointment, you can’t even shake a stick at them, bless their little hearts.
That’s why viewership is dropping - you can’t forgive them for being conservative at one point, and the rest of us won’t put up with their B.S.
And Tony, you only hope People fold. You’re terrified when they don’t. Even more so when they’re successful is standing up to chaos and disorder (I won’t use term anarchy, because I suspect that’s what you think Laissez-faire is). That’s why you’re so scared by Rittenhouse.
So you mean like:
CNN
MSNBC
ABC
NBC
CBS
NPR
NYT
WaPo
The AP
Reuters
Yahoo News
Bloomberg
The Atlantic
Vox
HuffPo
Rolling Stone
Vogue
Teen Vogue
LA Times
Chicago Sun Times
I can go in for hundreds of organizations that most or all literally get daily talking points from the DNC. It Fox News is such a huge problem.
While we don't know for certain that they are explicitly taking orders from the Democratic Party..
Actually we do; With their specific names - Just google it. Multiple Democratic Congressmen are sending letters and calling media demanding censorship.
Can't believe such acts of treason (clear down to de-platforming the US President) goes so ignored.
The government telling "The People" what they "can't say" is a violation of free speech. The government telling "The People" what they "must say" is also a violation.
The problem is social media companies advertise themselves as platforms where people can come and express themselves, and then impose a laundry list of highly subjective and ambiguous things you're not allowed to post and then censor and ban people for expressing themselves in ways that aren't illegal or obscene.
Every contract has an implied covenant of good faith and these tech companies routinely violate it with their garbage standards.
In bad faith, they use that list to censor either conservative political speech or simple mundane speech because it upsets woke idiots and is based on the highly dubious notion that the bad speech was somehow historically used by bad people and is thus harmful in some unknown way to the political ambitious of the left. "Mistakes" pretty much run in only one direction.
They also use it to censor straight up news such as the Wuhan Lab Leak or the Hunter Biden laptop story. Again, this is all bad faith conduct and it doesn't violate the first amendment rights of social media companies to make them live up to their own promises.
OMG whine more. They're private companies. You don't have an unfettered right to use their resources against their will.
The libertarian really folds the instant something happens you people don't like. You are so not prepared for the free-wheeling quasi-anarchic world you claim to want.
And Congressmen requesting there resources be censored IS a violation of their sworn oath, it's treasonous and it is a direct threat to the USA and Individual freedom -- which pretty much defines ALL Democrats. Of course you know this; yet you keep worshiping that treasonous power like nobodies business. The only question is WHY?
You don't have a case here dude. You're just mad because you can't handle the fact that you're wrong about everything and you believe lies.
I'm sorry you're such a victim of propaganda. The good news is, it's easy enough to read true shit.
Paraphrased, "Leftard mantra.... Projection... Case closed."
My case is a slam-dunk. We have exact names of Democratic politicians requesting censorship from the media.
Or you think it has to do with second part you know nothing about....
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press
You’re one delusional, dumbfuck faggot traitor. Lacking the slightest bit of self awareness. He had it nailed.
You embarrass yourself every time you come here. Best you stick to the bathhouse.
Treason has a very specific definition in the United States. Why is it that Trump and his fans seem so ignorant of what it is?
You mean like colluding with China, as the Biden's have done? Well-stated, spot on!
Like Swallwell fucking Fang Fang, then tipping her off when the FBI warned him about her.
def; Treason is the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance.
Now; HERE is the biggest difference between the two parties.
1) Is that 'state authority' the US Constitution? (Document of Principles)
2) Is that 'state authority' a Gov-God? (Elected King?)
Do the People swear allegiance to their Gov-Gods or do Government Officials take their job with a sworn oath to a higher authority????
Ya; you know the answer (or you should) - you're just playing dumb.
Article III, Section 3, Clause 1: Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court.
And Democrats aren't 'adhering to their Enemies' by building a National Socialist Rogue Government that thwarting the very definition of the USA (The US Constitution)?
Your funny, Tony. You want to take most of the profits these companies make yet make private property arguments in order for the states to continue to use them as tools of propaganda and censorship.
These amendments are something that are i thing must be implemented as the Shot Blasting machines
Private companies can’t violate our inalienable rights that can’t be given or taken away or sold.
There is no private place in this nation where we do not have the right to life.
In places where people are invited to speak, like every social media platform, everyone has the right not to be censored. If they break the law, only then can they be punished.
That’s what it means to have an inalienable right. If you disagree, fuck off to a shithole nation where there are none.
SCOTUS has already ruled that town squares, even privately owned ones are obligated to respect 1a.
There is a very interesting supreme court case that deals with the rights of a company that owns a town square to limit speech. Marsh vs Alabama. The ruling was that a company that owned a company town could not limit speech in that town. Here is a link to the ruling.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/326/501
“ The more an owner, for his advantage, opens up his property for use by the public in general, the more do his rights become circumscribed by the statutory and constitutional rights of those who use it.”
In other words, we carry our rights onto private property and everywhere we go.
If you run a business which is open for the general public, you are obliged to respect ALL their human rights.
There is a very interesting supreme court case that deals with the rights of a company that owns a town square to limit speech. Marsh vs Alabama. The ruling was that a company that owned a company town could not limit speech in that town. Here is a link to the ruling.
A company town is a different situation. There, people are living within the company's property. They aren't "invited" onto the living or business space of the company temporarily.
In other words, we carry our rights onto private property and everywhere we go.
Businesses can always ask people to leave their property if they feel that their behavior and speech are disrupting their business or disturbing their customers. There are few situations where that can be overridden.
Social media platforms are not totally open public spaces in one important aspect: You have to create an account to post to those platforms (usually). And you agree to their terms of service when you do. For many of these platforms, you have to have an account to view the posts as well. That is much more akin to being inside of a store rather than in the open space in between stores at a mall, as an analogy. (I think there was a precedent-setting case about people seeking signatures for a petition at a mall, which was ruled to be a public space, if I remember correctly.)
If you run a business which is open for the general public, you are obliged to respect ALL their human rights.
So you agree that businesses open to the general public have to follow anti-discrimination laws, then?
Big tech platforms exist solely to make money from inviting people to come together on their platforms to speak.
If big tech could they deny those people their inalienable rights to free speech, where on earth does 1a apply?
Big tech platforms aren't people, they are corporations that act as extensions of the state and under state direction.
Where could you speak? Anywhere else. On millions of comment boards. On Mastodon, Pleroma, Matrix, etc. I.e. On platforms that aren't artificially propped up by the state.
Without the constitutional protection of 1a, you can speak only until someone with the power to wants to silence you.
If everyone spoke on their own platform, who would they be speaking to?
Big tech platforms exist solely to make money from inviting people to come together on their platforms to speak.
Don't you think that the companies creating those platforms might want to maintain a social atmosphere that continues to attract a broad range of users, rather than cater to people that want to vent their culture war grievances? If people want a free for all atmosphere where people can post whatever hate-filled bullshit they want that stops short of breaking the law, then I'm sure there are those willing to host that kind of platform. But most people want to enjoy their social media experience rather than have to wade through garbage on their way to the stuff they really want to view.
Companies who do business in nations with 1a, could stand to make a lot of money violating it.
Crooks don’t want the exposure 1a provides.
1st Amendment
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Now; Exactly where does it say you're *ENTITLED* to exercise freedom of speech where-ever you might end up????
IT DOESN'T!!!!!!!!!!! GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Or get the 2/3rds Congress and State Ratification to change it.
“or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech,”
Right there.
And the Declaration of Independence confirms the inalienable right.
lol... ??WHO?? can't prohibit the free exercise thereof??? I'm missing that 'Companies' name you seem to think is 'right there'...
Plus; The Declaration of Independence has ZERO legal weight. As-if it's very name didn't give that away. It was a declaration of independence from the British Government.
Private across do have a right to say whatever they want.
Google, Facebook, and Twitter aren't private actors.
Sure, sure; As long as a private company is offering anything publicly; it must be part of the National Socialist Regime.
Or unless you're referring to a shareholder in the company. Sadly Democratic Politicians (like Peloski) does have massive shares in Facebook - however; they still have a sworn oath as congressmen to "The People's" law over them.