Immigration

Immigration Activists Sever Conversations With White House Over Return of Trump-Era Border Policy

Plus: Maine cracks down on vulgar license plates, Nashville cracks down on mobile hot tubs, and more...

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Immigration activists have had it with President Joe Biden's increasing willingness to play the role of deporter in chief. Dozens of them stormed out of a virtual meeting with White House officials in protest of the administration's revival of the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP), reports Politico.

MPP, known informally as "Remain in Mexico," was a program started under President Donald Trump. It required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico while waiting for U.S. immigration court hearings.

The program proved controversial. Critics claimed it violates immigrants' rights under domestic and international law to claim asylum on U.S. soil, and that it required 70,000 migrants to wait for their court hearings in tent cities in dangerous Mexican border towns. The Biden administration ended the program in June. But a federal judge, in response to a lawsuit brought by Missouri and Texas, ordered that it be reinstated.

The administration's compliance with the court order proved the last straw for some immigration activists.

"I cannot stand one more meeting of them pretending," Ariana Saludares, a 40-year-old advocate from the New Mexico–based organization Colores United and attendee of the Saturday meeting with White House officials, told Politico. "They give us accolades on the outside, but on the inside, we're having to take out the metaphoric knives from our back."

These activists also expressed frustration with Biden's continuation of another of Trump's border policies. That measure, called Title 42, allows border patrol officials to expel migrants on the grounds that they pose a public health threat due to COVID-19.

That policy resulted in more than 1 million people being expelled from the U.S. as of July 2021. The Biden administration has recently used this public health justification to deport thousands of Haitian migrants from the U.S.-Mexico border near Del Rio, Texas.

Biden had promised on the campaign trail that he would take a softer, more humane approach to immigration. His continuation of many of the past administration's draconian border policies has left activists feeling betrayed.

"It's almost like we were bamboozled into thinking that this was going to be the best option," said Saludares. "It is as if you know that your family is now turning against you and telling you that it's okay. It's not."

At least the Biden administration fired some horses, right?


FREE MINDS

Maine is cracking down on obscene license plates. The state is in the middle of making new rules that would prohibit the words fuck, shit, and other obscenities unfit for print from appearing on vanity plates.

The state is currently pausing applications for these vulgar plates and will eventually recall those that have already been issued, reports the Associated Press.

"Rule-making will delay the process of active removal of plates from the road but will help us balance the free speech rights of citizens and the public interest of removing inappropriate license plates," said Secretary of State Shenna Bellows.

California's own restrictions on supposedly offensive vanity plates were struck down on First Amendment grounds late last year. Maine's new rules could potentially run into the same problem.


FREE MARKETS

Nashville's government betrays its reputation as a party city by attempting to shut down the hottest tub on wheels. Earlier this month, the Nashville government filed a lawsuit against the Music City Party Tub and its owner, Guy Williams, for operating a public swimming pool without the requisite permits, reports The Tennessean.

Williams has been operating his mobile hot tub—a heated pool on a trailer that's pulled by a truck around city streets—through a shifting series of corporate entities since April 2019. The city's lawsuit contends that he lacks a necessary public pool permit from the health department and that the party tub itself requires multiple design updates to be street legal.

It's asking that a judge temporarily shut down the party tub. A preliminary injunction hearing was scheduled for last week, but thus far there hasn't been any reporting on its outcome.

Should the party tub be shut down, it would be a real loss for both unfettered free enterprise in all its gaudy glory, and for any number of bachelorettes looking for one last ride before settling down.


QUICK HITS

• Apple's latest iPhone privacy features have obstructed its tech rivals' ads from reaching users, tripling the company's market share:

• The San Francisco Chronicle has a long profile on Monica Gandhi, a San Francisco doctor who has generated controversy for advocating a slightly more liberal, harm reduction–oriented approach to the pandemic.

• China hawks are foaming at the mouth after the country conducted a hypersonic missile test in low orbit.

• Biden has maintained limits on people sending remittances to Cuba despite promises to lift those sanctions.

• New York City is looking to turn a massive public graveyard into a public park. Fun!

• Democrats in Congress are considering passing a carbon tax after Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.) rejected their clean energy plan for addressing climate change.

• Colombian officials are sterilizing hippos smuggled into the country by drug kingpin Pablo Escobar. The animals are reportedly an invasive species.

• Is it a witch hunt? The New Zealand city of Christchurch has fired its municipal wizard of 23 years after he made a joke about beating women.

• Former Secretary of State Colin Powell has died at age 84 of complications from COVID-19, his family said on Facebook.

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  1. Immigration activists have had it with President Joe Biden's increasing willingness to play the role of deporter in chief.

    Someone wasn't paying attention during the Obama years.

    1. Immigration activists- if they were really interested in a solution for immigration- would realize that the last thing the Democrats want is to remove Immigration from the table. The closest immigration activists ever got to an actual solution was under the Republican congress back in 2006-7.

      I am pretty certain activists won't actually get anything from the GOP in its current incarnation, but there is zero reason to believe that Democrats will pay anything but lip service to the immigrant groups. At the least they should understand this and make the Democrats pay for 8 years of inaction under Obama, and 1 year of WTF ever Biden has been doing his term.

      1. The gop offered seasonal work visas in 2006 and democrats killed it.

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    2. Obama kept immigrant children in humane play pens while Trump kept them in cruel chain link fences. Why else do you think Obama has a Nobel peace prize while Trump is persona non grata.

      1. The Chocolate Jesus could do no wrong.

        1. And the tangerine tyrant was literally Hitler.

        2. Caramel jesus... He's only black by the old one drop rule, not the new one.

          1. But he’s all pinko on the inside.

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  2. Maine is cracking down on obscene license plates.

    We're still pretending Maine even exists. Does anyone know anyone who's from there? Has anyone ever even been there?

    1. I was there. The whole place is empty.

    2. I've always pictured a decrepit lighthouse standing forlorn atop a small outcrop of jagged rocks, against a grey steel sky, pummeled endlessly by frigid waves. Isn't that Maine?

      Also the lighthouse is full of lobsters.

      1. The scenery is gorgeous. The people, well.... 'Yankee taciturn' is definitely a thing.

        Definitely get some lobsters DownEast though.

        1. Lobsters are way too expensive now. Forget about it.

      2. That's what they want you to think.

      3. That's a good part of the coast. Otherwise, mostly it's just trees.

      4. Maine is basically one big forest. When I moved here I found driving to be claustrophobic. I was used to being able to see for miles in at least one direction. But not here. Every road is like a trench with walls of trees on either side. Want to do some stargazing? Good fucking luck finding a place where you can see anything close to the horizon. Like slender ladies? Go elsewhere. They're all fat in Maine. Come to think of it, there really isn't a lot that I like about this place. But my family is here, so...

        1. I don't think that's fat. Pretty sure it's just more insulation. You'll be wishin' you were sandwich between 2 of 'em if the heat goes out.

    3. You can't get there from here

    4. They just got Cuban sandwiches there a few months ago.

      1. Don't you mean Cuban heels?

    5. Isn't our favorite 'Only True Libertarian Here' and half-million dollar AirBnB renter, from Maine?

      1. You need to be more specific. We're all the only true libertarian here.

        1. No, no, the real one.
          The one that knows everything is both sides whenever the Democrats are caught fucking up, and that it's when the administration orders private companies to act in certain ways, because it's “voluntary”.

    6. I thought Canada bought Maine.

    7. sarcasmic is from there, or claims he is.

      1. Stephen King is also from there, or claims he is.

      2. Pretty sure our resident punster is also a Mainah.

        1. Who’s that?

            1. Ah. I probably have him muted.

              1. When he's not trying to impress the girls he can be decent conversation.

                1. I thought you only talked about issues, not people. So confused.

    8. I live in Maine. Please don’t come. It is great here. More folks will just fuck it up.

  3. Fuck Joe Biden

    1. Let's Go Brandon

      1. Fuck Tulpa!

        1. Fuck off and die Mike!

        2. Fuck Joe Biden, fuck Mike Laursen, let’s go Brandon.

        3. Fuck lying ass Dee!

  4. California's own restrictions on supposedly offensive vanity plates were struck down on First Amendment grounds late last year.

    I say we do away with license plates altogether. That would show these vulgar cretins on the Supreme Court.

    1. I had a 1966 Subaru 'Japanese Beetle.' It had a two-cycle rear engine that sounded like a pop corn popper. I got a vanity plate that said 'KUSO' and got away with it for four years.

      1. Shitty name for a car.

        1. Because no response after 13 hours makes me look like an asshole here, I'd just like to point out that "kuso" is Japanese for "shit".

  5. California's own restrictions on supposedly offensive vanity plates were struck down on First Amendment grounds late last year. Maine's new rules could potentially run into the same problem.
    Pesky constitutional problems always getting in the way of utopia.

    1. If personalized plates are free speech, why are all plates compelled speech.
      This is a retarded issue for anyone to care about.

    1. Because you're addicted to misinformation and propaganda, mate!

      1. Ignore Ra's Al Gore. He's a Russian troll, like Matt Taibbi and Glenn Greenwald.

        1. I've never heard of them so I guess I'm living right?

          1. You'll do fine if you only read mainstream media that has been reviewed and approved by serious people. Thankfully, Big Tech is ensuring that only approved thoughts are being distributed to the proles.

            1. That's reassuring!

          2. No. Just ignorant. No need to advertise it more.

          3. T-t-tulpa? Is that you?

        2. You'll be watching that video all morning too.

          1. Vaccines work!!!

      2. Hmm, low self-awareness is thy name.

    2. It's a nice ass, but c'mon Ras... Get out of the house a little.

      1. You got to me click. That's a nice liberal ass!

        1. He wasn't talking about the toddler.

          1. I didn't see a toddler. I saw an ass. Was there something else happening?

            1. I see an asshole just above.

            2. I didn’t see a toddler.

              Your disappointment is palpable.

    3. they seem batshit crazy, dunno whats happening there

      But that ass tho

      1. Hey, hey, hey get it straight that's a Democratic ass.

        1. I thought "Straight" and "Democratic" aren't allowed to be put in the same sentence anymore? Hate crime or something.
          Maybe ask your politruk if that was okay.

          1. Pete Buttgag is the democrat ideal for a white male.

    4. Professor, what’s another name for pirate treasure?

      1. Sunken chest? Oh. Wrong punchline.

  6. Is it a witch hunt? The New Zealand city of Christchurch has fired its municipal wizard of 23 years after he made a joke about beating women.
    Wait. They have a wizard on staff? Like kings in the old days? Is the a jester as well?

    1. Well, they do have official aboriginals, so wizards should fit right in.

    2. Watch it or he'll transfigure you.

    3. Power word: Authoritah.

    4. Well Congress has Sanders and AOC.

  7. "Return of Trump-Era Border Policy"

    LOL

    Reason.com obviously needs better fact-checking. Drumpf's border policy literally involved running concentration camps and putting kids in cages. You expect me to believe Biden — or, for that matter, any Democrat — would do something so depraved?

    #DemocratsDontCageKids

    1. It not like they would pack 15,000 people under a bridge or something.

    2. Not cages, factory work stations.

    3. Trump also had swordsman there taking the quickenings of the children.

  8. Australia Leader Beclowns Ted Cruz Over Vax Mandate Opinions

    Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) has been firmly put in his place after trying to present himself as an expert on Australia’s pandemic response. In a tweet last week, Cruz flipped out over a new wide-ranging vaccine mandate for workers in Australia’s Northern Territory, writing: “I’ve always said Australia is the Texas of the Pacific. The COVID tyranny of their current government is disgraceful & sad. Individual liberty matters.” The Northern Territory chief minister, Michael Gunner, then issued a statement Monday that effectively told Cruz he has no idea what he’s going on about. “We don’t need your lectures, thanks mate,” the chief minister wrote. “Nearly 70,000 Texans have tragically died from COVID. There have been zero deaths in the Territory. Did you know that?... You know nothing about us. And if you stand against a life-saving vaccine, then you sure as hell don’t stand with Australia.” Gunner concluded: “I love Texas (go Longhorns), but when it comes to COVID, I’m glad we are nothing like you.” Cruz has not responded to Gunner’s humbling message.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/michael-gunner-beclowns-ted-cruz-over-his-northern-territory-vaccine-mandate-opinions?ref=home

    1. Looks like you’re addicted to misinformation and propaganda, mate!

      1. Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I really appreciate it.

        1. Tell me more about Governor Coon Man and his blackface escapades.

        2. The concept of irony is lost on this one.

          1. Almost everything is lost on this one. Except the Power of the Farce.

      2. I love how framing "We've had zero deaths without a mandate so the mandate is necessary to save people." as blasting Cruz.

        Pwning GOPers and oppressing every last citizen in the most remote portions of the region is just how they role in New Australia.

        1. Be like China!

        2. You beat me to it. And better, too.

          ...At least I can take comfort that you mistakenly used role instead of roll.

          Or was it a pun? God damnit he is clever...

    2. Not shocked you defend Australia as they have videos of beating down even the elderly for the crime of being unmasked outdoors.

    3. Australia has been brutal and draconian toward its citizens to fight Covid.

      But Strazele is a progressive, so brutal, draconian totalitarian behavior so government gets its way is in his sweet spot. The Ted Cruz thing is just a bonus.

      1. It's Christmas for "true libertarians" like Stroozle, when the propagator of the most totalitarian clampdown since WWII bitches about Ted Cruz.
        Actual fascists are fine as long as they're attacking the Democratic Party's enemies.

        1. "No bad tactics, just bad targets."

    4. So, his response was that tyranny is OK if it's for your own good and fuck your individual liberty.

      1. But Stroozle will insist he's a libertarian, for realz.

        1. Does he? I didn't think he was a fake libertarian, just a dick.

        2. I didn’t realize strudel even pretended he was libertarian.

    5. "Australia Leader Beclowns Ted Cruz Over Vax Mandate Opinions"

      The only ones beclowning themselves are you, Strudel, and the author of that article.

      Fools like yourself think that it is just self-obvious that a police state where people are locked in their homes, and visited by police based on their Facebook postings is CLEARLY preferable to some people dying of a natural pathogen.

      For the benefit of the thread, this is what we call "Stealing a base." Strudel actually thinks that if we could save just one or 50 or 50,000 lives, any infringement on our liberties would be worth it. I significant number of people in Australia disagree with that notion, and their fundamental right to protest it is being infringed.

      But yeah, it is Cruz who beclowned himself.

      1. What natural pathogen? I believe this is related to the fauci funded Wuhan lab created virus

        1. Fauci stole taxpayer money to do this to us.

    6. There have been zero deaths in the Territory.

      So, obviously, their answer is a new wide-ranging vaccine mandate for workers? Because no one has died?

      1. Funeral homes hardest hit.

  9. This vaccine, of course, is the mandated one now. Follow! The! Science!

    Dems just didn't want good Covid news before election day. If the people who supported Andrew "Grandma Killer" Cuomo needed to keep medicine away from us to win an election, then so be it.

    https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/10/19/1010646/campaign-stop-covid-19-vaccine-trump-election-day/
    After being released from Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on October 5, US President Donald Trump praised the doctors who treated him for covid-19 and promised that the public would soon have a vaccine against the deadly coronavirus. “We have the best medicines in the world, and very shortly they are all getting approved, and the vaccines are coming momentarily,” he said in a video statement shared with millions of Twitter followers.

    Across the country, in California, a doctor named Eric Topol was responding in real time on social media. He questioned the president’s health, his doctors’ actions, and even his mental status.

    By that point Topol, a heart expert and researcher with a huge Twitter following of his own, was already weeks into a personal campaign to make sure the administration could not rush a covid-19 vaccine through regulatory authorization before Election Day on November 3.

    An editorial in the New York Times had raised the possibility of an “October surprise” vaccine back in June, and warned that a vaccine approval could turn into a “campaign stunt.” Topol, who works at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla and is one of the country’s most prominent doctors, aimed to prevent Trump from greenlighting a vaccine before scientists could prove it to be safe and effective. To Topol, developing an effective vaccine against covid-19 is “the biggest event in our generation” and one that should be evaluated on the basis of scientific data, not political implications.

    If Trump badgered the US Food and Drug Administration into prematurely releasing a vaccine that wasn’t effective, or even caused harm, it could shake the public’s trust in any covid-19 vaccine. And if we are to achieve wide immunity against SARS-CoV-2, we'll need to vaccinate more people than the number that get flu shots each year. Releasing a vaccine that people are afraid of could do more harm than good.

    To prevent such a scenario, Topol led online calls for FDA commissioner Steve Hahn to resign after his agency was criticized for cowing to political pressure—and then phoned Hahn a number of times to urge him to resist Trump’s influence. Topol also targeted Pfizer, the only pharmaceutical company likely to seek approval of its vaccine before Election Day, which eventually set up a meeting for him with its vaccine team.

    On October 16, Topol and his allies were able to claim success: Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla said the company would not be able to seek emergency approval for its vaccine before the third week in November, owing to safety standards that had been put in place by the FDA. Those standards had been issued against Trump’s wishes, but at the urging of Topol and other advocates.

    We were on a path for a vaccine emergency authorization (EUA) before November 3rd. Thanks to the FDA, Trump's plan was disrupted. That won't happen.

    1. Come out with your hands up!
      You will take the vaccine.
      You will drink the corn syrup.
      You will eat the bugs.

      1. You will own nothing.
        You WILL be happy.

    2. The science is settled.

      1. And the last of the resistance will soon be stamped out.

  10. I'm surprised by how small google's share of the ads are. It makes me question the accuracy of this data, or at least if the data is being misleading.

    1. On first read through- this population is not all search advertising. It is just search ads within apps installed on iPhones. In general when you create an app, you choose an ad network to monetize that app (if you aren't selling something else) and search advertisements tend to be the most lucrative because they have so much intent behind them. The contention in that twitter thread is that Apple has made it so difficult to track users (if you aren't apple) that decent monetization can only come from Apple's ad network.

      1. Ahhhh, this makes sense.

  11. Are these the same pigs happily enforcing Covid rules against the rest of us?

    Chicago police union head urges cops to defy Covid vaccine mandate
    Fraternal Order of Police President John Catanzara vowed to take Mayor Lori Lightfoot’s administration to court if it tries to enforce the mandate.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/chicago-police-union-head-urges-cops-defy-covid-vaccine-mandate-rcna3007

    1. Again, hopefully this whole thing ends in a shootout.

      1. But only one side has guns.

        1. Lightfoot has "crazy-eye" eye beams she can shoot as far as a kilometer.

          1. Take your commie metric bs back to Canada, I want that measurement in spans, rods, or cubits!

            1. 22,000 onions

  12. John Kerry Has At Least $1 Million Invested In Chinese Fund Supporting Company Blacklisted For Human Rights Abuses
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/10/14/john-kerry-hillhouse-yitu-technology/

    Special Presidential Envoy for Climate John Kerry and his wife hold at least $1 million in a Chinese investment fund that owns a significant stake in a Chinese technology company that aided China’s human rights abuses against Uyghur Muslims, records show.

    Kerry reported holding an “over $1,000,000” stake in the investment fund, Hillhouse China Value Fund L.P., in his financial disclosure submitted in February. The fund is a part of the Hillhouse Capital Group, a private equity firm operated by Chinese billionaire Zhang Lei and known for its early investments in some of China’s top technology companies.

    Hillhouse invested $55 million in the Chinese surveillance firm Yitu Technology in 2017, a company that was later placed on the U.S. government’s “entity list” in 2019 for developing facial recognition software specifically designed to detect Uyghurs. Being on the entity list, U.S. companies must obtain a special license before doing business with Yitu, according to the Center for Strategic & International Studies.

    1. But remember that time Trump had a mutual fund that had a small percentage of its money in one of several companies who got a small amount of revenue from some drug he mentioned in passing? MOST CORRUPT PRESIDENT EVAR!

      1. The Dems went ape shit when Trump indirectly owned $400 worth of the drug company that makes Hydroxychloroquine through a mutual fund. Claimed he was enriching himself.

      2. This is equally stupid. Isnt Kerry a multi billionaire?
        The right wimg media emulating msm is not a positive development.
        Idiocracy may have been optimistic.

        1. It's the fact that he invested a million in an honest-to-goodness slaveholding company that's the issue, not the amount.

          Comparing bitching about that, to bitching about $400 in an anti-malarial manufacturer who's product might or might not work, is a stretch.

  13. Not TODAY, Satan: Terry McAuliffe finds out the HARD WAY that 300+ Black Churches playing Kamala Harris video BEGGING them to vote for him is a bad move
    https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2021/10/17/desperation-300-black-churches-to-play-cringy-video-of-kamala-harris-begging-black-virginians-to-vote-for-terry-mcauliffe/

    1. I'm all for free speech but I thought this type of political activism was prohibited for churches- at least if they want to retain their tax-free status.

      Did this change?

      1. Only prohibited if there is an (r) next to the name

      2. It's okay. It's for a Democratic Party candidate. That's different.

    2. The other day, my kid was complaining about wasteful americans and how we "waste" all this food, while people starve in other countries. This, as she has been sagely informed by Teachers and TikTok is a failure of capitalism.

      I explained that, while it is always important to buy only what you need, what she sees as "waste" is actually a "Surplus". Capitalism has made food so plentiful in the US, that it is cheaper to throw it away than save it. When people talk about stopping "waste", they are talking about stopping "surpluses". We call this "Shortages" or, in the case of food, "Famine". Don't pine for famine.

      1. Ugh wrong spot.

  14. https://twitter.com/ElijahSchaffer/status/1449595875060338688

    It’s funny how ignorant Americans never ask folks from the Soviet Union what they thought about breadlines. In my experience, there’s a lot of nostalgia for the sense of community they fostered. The bread shortages themselves were nbd

    1. https://twitter.com/CarlBeijer/status/1449930768285851649
      That’s crony communism. I’m talking about communism

      @ElijahSchaffer
      Just met a woman who fled communism 3 years ago. She loved the bread lines so much, she traveled thousands of miles across 3 countries by herself to get here! She mourns her losses everyday

      1. Bread lines are equity.

      2. She isn’t a gluten for punishment.

        1. Rye all of the puns, recently?

          1. Crumby comedy.

      3. She is oat of luck.

    2. The other day, my kid was complaining about wasteful americans and how we “waste” all this food, while people starve in other countries. This, as she has been sagely informed by Teachers and TikTok is a failure of capitalism.

      I explained that, while it is always important to buy only what you need, what she sees as “waste” is actually a “Surplus”. Capitalism has made food so plentiful in the US, that it is cheaper to throw it away than save it. When people talk about stopping “waste”, they are talking about stopping “surpluses”. We call this “Shortages” or, in the case of food, “Famine”. Don’t pine for famine.

      1. People forget that Marx was as shitty an economist as he was a philosopher.

    3. I know a lady from the USSR, that told me that old timers in her country do actually miss socialism. She compared it to people who are happy to be on welfare but worse.

      1. I know a lady from the USSR, that told me that old timers in her country do actually miss socialism.

        I look at these folks like latter-stage Boomers/early Gen-Xers who look back on the 70s with rose-colored glasses because of all the drugs and free (but not cheap) sex that was available, mostly because they were in high school and college at the time, and either missed the worst aspects of trying to make a living then (especially in the blasted-out cities), or have trouble with modern mass society causing so much free-floating anxiety. The movie "Dazed and Confused" is a great example of this mindset in action.

  15. Very juicy news here guys. Turns out the GOP was in on the fix this whole time but people are finally waking up to it.

    Georgia Republican Survey Finds MAGA Election Conspiracy Theorists Ditching GOP

    Greene was “surprised” by a recent internal survey that is said to have found that 9 percent of GOP voters could sit out future elections in the state if Georgia doesn’t carry out a forensic audit of the 2020 election first. The survey reportedly found that 5 percent of Republican voters said they would definitely sit out the 2022 election without an audit, and an additional 4 percent said they would consider not casting a vote. The Times reports Republican strategists found the survey result “alarming,” especially in light of Donald Trump’s threats last week that he’ll order his supporters not to vote in future elections if he doesn’t feel his baseless 2020 conspiracy theories are properly addressed.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/georgia-republican-survey-finds-maga-election-conspiracy-theorists-ditching-gop-says-report?ref=home

    1. Very juicy news here guys.
      My god.

      1. Now that you mention it I do have a godlike body.

        1. So you're a buddha-like fatass?

          1. I'm thinking flying spaghetti monster.

          2. COVID bait.

          3. No, no - he has five inch ear lobes.

    2. You do know Ga just arrested 2 election officials for shredding voter applications and are about to take over Fulton County at the state level right? The investigation into the lack of chain of custody records is ongoing. They already found 5000 double voters. Etc.

      1. And so what if it's taken over. You counting on some Qanon psycho to cheat for you? I want a fair and free election.

        1. The you should be for audits which you are not. You are for fortified elections.

          1. Wtf, yes I'm for audits. Are you fing crazy? I'm not voting unless there's an audit. Fuck you and your Lizard masters. We want the truth!

            1. I know you're trying to be lulzy, but you'd think that if the Democrats really won fair and square that they really would be 100% for audits (not just recounts) and as many as possible.

              The only reason to be against them is if they don't actually believe that the win was legitimate.
              Because nobody hires 100 lawyers to hide an election victory. Nobody has the DOJ interfere in a state ordered audit because they won fair and square.

              1. You’re wasting your breath. He’s completely dishonest. Just like all democrats.

    3. Jeez, how many audits of the Georgia results do they need?

      1. The Lizards got to you? What did they promise you?

        1. You suck at this.

          1. Stroozle sounds a lot like Buttplug today. Maybe they switched socks?

        2. That I'd never have to live in Georgia.

      2. You keep confusing recounts with audits. Why? Imagine if the IRS stopped at checking your tax return math and didn't bother to look at W2 verification.

  16. Gates Foundation helped ‘raise China’s voice of governance’ in Africa, emails show
    https://www.judicialwatch.org/in-the-news/gates-foundation-emails/

    “Microsoft founder Bill Gates‘ international foundation has helped the Chinese Communist government in various ways, according to a newly-released batch of emails from the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases under Dr. Anthony Fauci, obtained by Judicial Watch through a Freedom of Information Act request.

    In a statement to Fox News, the Gates Foundation contested this interpretation of its work. A spokesperson said that the foundation does similar work in the United States.

    According to the emails, the Gates Foundation worked closely with the Chinese government to grease the skids to enable the sale of Chinese-produced medications outside the Middle Kingdom. The foundation also helped “raise China’s voice of governance by placing representatives from China on important international counsels as high level commitment from China.”

  17. No unemployment checks for health workers who refuse vaccine
    https://bangordailynews.com/2021/10/14/news/no-unemployment-checks-for-health-workers-who-refuse-vaccine/

    PORTLAND, Maine — There will be no state unemployment benefits for health care workers who are fired for refusing to get employer-mandated vaccinations against COVID-19, state officials said Thursday.

    Already, a small number of workers have quit rather than be fully vaccinated ahead of the deadline at month’s end.

    “Refusing to comply with an employer’s policies, including a health or safety policy, typically disqualifies a person from being eligible to receive unemployment benefits,” Jessica Picard, spokesperson for the Maine Department of Labor, said Thursday.

    1. Even worse than that is biden is threatening to not only fire special forces that don't get vaccinated, but use courts to make them pay back training costs as well. Wants to utterly destroy the Frontline soldiers for not getting vaccinated.

      1. This is all so incredibly illegal. It's happening in Canada too, and yes, it is an enourmous violation of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

        How can we make these people pay for their evil, life destroying actions? How can we eventually bring these people to justice?

        1. Kill them. Before they destroy your life.

        2. The democrats must be removed. Then order can be restored.

    2. Gee, the government would never use benefits to control people, would they? No sir, it's all about people having basic rights and dignity.

      1. Can’t wait until they control my health care.

        1. No vax, no bandaids.

        2. Hasn't JFree et, al already told us the end game here? Limited resources such as medical beds and the like should be preserved for only those people that do what government says we should do. That will be doubly so when the government is paying all our medical bills.

    3. "Company health policy is you have to blow the boss once a week. Failure to comply gets you fired."

      1. You’ll now have the chance to give your boss a raise.

  18. Meanwhile, we're eliminating advanced classes in school and teaching kids 2+2=5 if the party says so.

    China reportedly tested nuclear-capable hypersonic missile in August
    https://nypost.com/2021/10/16/china-tested-nuke-capable-hypersonic-missile-in-august-report/

    1. Navy Sets Timeline and Discharge Details for Those Refusing the COVID-19 Vaccine
      https://www.navy.mil/Press-Office/Press-Releases/display-pressreleases/Article/2810224/navy-sets-timeline-and-discharge-details-for-those-refusing-the-covid-19-vaccine/

      For Navy service members refusing the vaccine, the CCDA also retains the authority for administrative processes regarding removal of warfare qualifications, additional qualification designations (AQD), Navy Enlisted Classifications (NEC), or sub-specialties, except in cases where removal authority is otherwise authorized by law or Executive Order. The CCDA may also seek recoupment of applicable bonuses, special and incentive pays, and the cost of training and education for service members refusing the vaccine.

      1. Great idea, firing qualified service members when you can barely scrape up and retain enough service members to meet end strength goals. I guess they'll just backfill with trannies.

        Every day, I just can't see how this all ends with anything but bloodshed. Anyone enforcing this belongs on the wall.

        1. I have zero sympathy for leftist trash that burn for this.

    2. The hypersonic part isn't the worrying part. iCBM RVs are already hypersonic, and then some, when they enter Earth's atmosphere. The worrying part is that the Chinese have decided to start testing a Fractional Orbit Bombardment System, something banned by treaties between the US and USSR. With a FOBS, you put the payload into an actual orbit, instead of lobbing it really high (Minuteman III's apogee is something like 750 miles) and letting it fall.

      Why does that matter? Because if the payload is in orbit, it can just sit there, as long as needed. There isn't a giant thermal bloom telling everyone, "Hey! I just shot an ICBM at you!" Moreover, transit time is a lot less. Fire retrorockets, hit atmosphere, and zip in. A few minutes, vs half an hour. Finally, the orbit can come from directions not covered by early warning radar, which are all usually watching the North Pole/Aleutian chain.

      It's a nasty, first-strike NCA-decapitating weapon. Which is why the Soviets and us agreed to ban the damned things.

      1. Orbital dominance has always been the new Aircraft Carrier. The US actually showed how problematic these spacecraft can be- You don't even need to fire retro rockets during your "attack". If your orbit is eccentric enough, then at perigee your craft is interacting with atmosphere and can use its air-foils to change direction. Now do this at a part in the atmosphere where the enemy has no radar coverage, like over mainland china, and we have less than 20 minutes warning.

        I have zero confidence in the US Military's ability to deal with this threat. Our only hope is that the private sector breaks out into cis-lunar orbit before China locks down the planet. Because that is clearly their goal.

        1. "If your orbit is eccentric enough, then at perigee your craft is interacting with atmosphere and can use its air-foils to change direction. Now do this at a part in the atmosphere where the enemy has no radar coverage, like over mainland china, and we have less than 20 minutes warning."

          Yeah, but most of those orbits, or fractional orbits---hence the name---aren't that far in time from the initial big rocket burn, which is what lets SBIRS know that something's up. Less than 90 minutes apart. So you do get the eccentric flight path, but you don't get the surprise that a quick deorbit burn from a stable-ish orbit attack can provide. Probably less smash, though I haven't done the math, for a MaRV to use on that type of flight path, than a typical ICBM terminal flight. Though likely substantial enough to dodge things like any ground based interceptors we might want to throw at the thing.

          The deep background people who were quoted for the Chinese story, said they were "surprised" by the technical breakthroughs. If it's a pure FOBS, they shouldn't have been. China does moon missions for crying out loud. A FOBS payload with an integrated sensor to see upcoming interceptors, or to get midcourse corrections from the Chinese satellite constellation, or that reinvented the Pershing I terminal guidance radar: all of that would be interesting though, and not seen before.

          It isn't the end of the world. B-2 and F-117 could decapitate any NCA (F-35, too---which is why Best China hasn't been allowed to buy any), with zero warning, and the World somehow survived. We might want to make Looking Glass a thing again though. And really, really make sure that Ohio patrol areas aren't as compromised as seemingly everything else lately is in the IC.

          1. Taiwan is lost. That what the test means.

  19. "Former Secretary of State Colin Powell has died at age 84 of complications from COVID-19, his family said on Facebook."

    RIP to an early 2000s neocon era Republican who began endorsing Democrats much earlier than Bill Kristol and David Frum.

    #LibertariansForEmbracingNeocons
    #(AtLeastTheyreProImmigration)

  20. Question of the day. Will white Mike dance on Powells grave like he does Hermain Cain?

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/colin-powell-dead-covid-19-former-secretary-of-state

    Complications from covid, he was 84. One of the leading causes of death at that age is already pneumonia and fluid in the lungs. At 84 that is very prevelant. It is how my grandfather died at near that age.

    1. Well, he was black so he probably didn’t get the magic vax.
      White mike probability

      1. He was fully jabbed.

        1. Can’t be! The magic vax is supposed to save us all!

          1. I've seen on Twitter that some Covid Karens are blaming Powell's death on "the selfish mother fuckers who won't get fully vaccinated". Yep, our intellectual betters...

            1. If you wonder into the Covid-Karen twittersphere it is a scary place. Bat shit crazy.

            2. Maybe old age and cancer were significant contributors.

        2. Unpossible, you can't catch the coof after partaking of the sacred vax. White Mike has sworn it.

          ...maybe someone killed him with a fire extinguisher?

    2. The scary part is that CP was vaccinated....and then contracted covid-19. I have an elderly parent just a little older who is vaxxed. But this makes me wonder just how effective the PFZ vaccine actually is.

      A consequential man of American history has died.

      1. If you look at the death rate by age numbers, the death rate for covid on 70+ is the same rate as the death rate without covid.

      2. Go look at the Israeli data, XY. It's not a "vaccine" at all. More of a therapeutic that'll save your ass (maybe) if you catch the bug. If you catch a strain of the bug the jab covers, etc... It doesn't look like it protects very well against acquiring the infection.

        Which is fine. It looks like it does some good for cohorts who are vulnerable to a bad case, like the elderly. I told both sets of our parents that they should go get stuck.
        It ain't like getting the e.g., Measles vax, though.

        1. Yeah, I mentioned that he should get the 3rd jab. Only because he is is 86. Otherwise good health. Just old. 🙂

      3. Apparently, he also had leukemia. Safe bet that was a factor.

        1. I think being 84 might just be a factor.

          1. Studies indicate that age is more of a factor than comorbidities, but having a whacked immune system would not exactly be a "plus."

        2. another died WITH Covid case

  21. LA times columnist says the media has been too nice to Republicans and they need to be less neutral.

    https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-reporters-promote-article-condemning-both-siderism

    Gets praise from journalists across the board. Sounds a lot like sarcasmic over the weekend.

    1. LA times columnist says the media has been too nice to Republicans and they need to be less neutral.

      How would we tell that a change took place?

      Anyway, I'm glad they're confirming now that it's okay to punch their teeth out, since they are the enemy.

    2. Sounds a lot like sarcasmic over the weekend.

      I don't think sarc would read the LA Times. They were probably repeating it on CNN. That's were he gets most of his stuff from.

    1. What if they chant it at a football game?

      1. Only if American rules.

      1. Some Winnipeg, Regina and Swifter Current fans are probably pretty pleased.

      2. Lets Go Wheatkings!

    2. Wait, does everyone in Maple Land work for the government?

    3. Is, "Fuck Justin Pierre James Trudeau", still ok?

    4. They are genuinely worried that they've pushed things here to the tipping point. That's why they're even worried about American insubordination memes.
      But instead of backing off a little, they're doubling down.

      I think that they're worried that if they slow down even just a little, their plans won't get properly implemented.

  22. Buttigieg says inflation and supply chain issues are great because it shows how good bidens economy is. SPB nods in agreement.

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/buttigieg-slammed-for-claiming-supply-chain-clog-caused-by-biden-success-would-make-trump-blush

    1. The economy is great because of President Brandon, and we're having all these problems because of the unvaxxed.

      1. I say Blame California.

        1. And Trump is still tweeting, right?

          1. Literally thier only accomplishment was shutting down Trump.

    2. But also we really need that $3.5T bill to jack up demand!

  23. People have questions on the legality of McAwful and kamala campaigning in virginian churches.

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2021/10/18/terry-mcauliffe-actually-posts-pics-of-himself-campaigning-in-churches-n458541

    Now I am against the imposition of rules against speech here, but the current tax rules disallow this campaigning.

    1. Omg stop attacking our faith!

      1. Hey dummy. I said I was against the laws. Are you? You have attacked non taxed churches previously. Are you going to go hypocrite on this?

        1. Look just stay away from our faith, okay? We're under assault from Republicans and your comment doesn't help.

          1. Lol. So you can't answer.

            1. He’s a dummy

            2. Dude, a way more hardcore. Tax churches? How bout the opposite? We should fund churches with tax dollars. We can pay them to indoctrinate our children and if a few get molested it's all part of God's plan.

              1. Pointing out that a bunch of gay men abused boys isn't exactly a win for your side, dummy.

                1. The Devil did it. Easy peasy can I have some more Jesus?

                  1. A claw hammer to the skull would suit you better.

                    1. Homicidal thoughts are probably a sigh that you're on the wrong path bro.

                    2. There's nothing wrong with punching white liberals, bro.

                    3. Hey Stroozle. How come you're refusing to answer Jesse and keep deflecting?

                      Seriously, you have attacked non taxed churches previously. Are you going to speak against political campaigning for Democrats by churches, or not?

                    4. Still no answer to a very simple question.

                  2. No, the asshole did it; you.

    2. I'm old enough to remember when the lefties went ballistic over the Mormons urging the members to vote no on gay marriage. They didn't run propoganda ads in the churches like this is, but they asserted their official position on the matter and the lefties wanted to take away the non profit status.

      I'm waiting for those same lefties to urge the same thing here...

  24. General Colin Powell dead at 84.

    One of the few Republicans who put country above party.

    1. It's pretty fucked up.

    2. Thank you for not calling him a "Bushpig" even though he helped sell the Iraq War that you're so sincerely outraged about.

      #LibertariansForPowell
      #EndorsingDemocratsRedeemedHimForThoseWMDLies

      1. He didn't want to do it.

        Dickless Cheney and the CIA guy were fabricating the intelligence and pushing the false "slam dunk" narrative. Powell later said believing them at the time was the biggest regret of his life.

        1. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd is a pathological lair, sufficiently stupid such the he doesn’t even know he’s lying, nor that everyone else does.
          turd lies; it’s all turd does.

        2. OK. I'm glad to see you accept the I was just following orders defense.

          1. +2 Train Conductors!

          2. He apparently also did that in Vietnam. Pinci-powell.

        3. Actually the evidence that Iraq had WMDs was pretty solid.
          The problem wasn't whether or not Iraq had them, but that THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION HAD NO BUSINESS GOING TO WAR OVER THEM EITHER WAY!

          Powell's a warmongering neocon regardless of what was in Iraq, and you're a fascist fuck.

        4. He didn’t want to do it.

          that makes it worse, not better. jesus christ

    3. The hicklib pederast simps for his fellow Democrats again.

      1. But he's a libertarian and totally not a democrat.

        Someone's willingness to give Powell a complete pass is pretty much the gold standard test as to whether they are actually interested in nuance, or they are just a partisan in disguise.

        1. Keep in mind that the CIA guy he mentioned above was George Tenet, a Clinton holdover, yet he somehow leaves that information out.

          Leaving the neocons' thirst for war aside, Iraq's looking a lot in hindsight like glowies doing glowie things.

  25. The program proved controversial. Critics claimed it violates immigrants' rights under domestic and international law to claim asylum on U.S. soil, and that it required 70,000 migrants to wait for their court hearings in tent cities in dangerous Mexican border towns.

    Yet international law states asylum applicants should declare asylum in the first country their group identity is not at threat FOR that identity. Nobody forced them to the border towns. They could freely go to a different city. They know their court dates.

  26. Apple's latest iPhone privacy features have obstructed its tech rivals' ads from reaching users, tripling the company's market share...

    iCheat

    1. There is a lot to criticize about Apple, but they did the right thing with their new privacy protections.

      1. LOL

    1. That article uses the word Indigenous no fewer than 10 times.

      For years I couldn't understand the left's fascination with the most superstitious, incestuous and welfare dependent minority group in America. Once I realized that Science! is a religion, it all made sense.

    2. He wrote 119 on Jan6 by my count.

  27. ...a long profile on Monica Gandhi, a San Francisco doctor who has generated controversy for advocating a slightly more liberal, harm reduction–oriented approach to the pandemic.

    She's ridden the line between orthodoxy and actual data-driven conclusions for too long.

  28. China hawks are foaming at the mouth after the country conducted a hypersonic missile test in low orbit.

    Wake me when they launch a billionaire into space in a penis.

    1. Or a Poo Bear in a Honey Pot.

    2. Wake me when China has hydrosonic missiles, like the USA!

      1. This H02 moment brought to you by White Mike.

        1. Our resident rocket Science!tist, folks!

          Lowers the basket 5 feet and pretends he just dunked on a guy that left the building 10 months ago.

          1. a guy that left the building 10 months ago

            Lol, wut?

            1. WK making an extremely dated Trump reference.

              TDS is the genital herpes of politics.

              1. Ah, got it now.

    3. It's systematic, it's automatic, it's hydromatic, why it's chink lightning

  29. This remains my favorite vanity plate of all time. It's not photoshopped.

    1. Pretty clever

    2. If only there was a cow picture plate followed by “CURTNS”

  30. Biden has maintained limits on people sending remittances to Cuba despite promises to lift those sanctions.

    To be fair, his handlers never expected anyone of importance to notice once he was in office.

    1. Nobody of important did notice. Or care.

  31. New York City is looking to turn a massive public graveyard into a public park. Fun!

    Why should Rikers Island grave digging inmates get all the enjoyment out of it.

    1. Just in time for Halloween.

  32. Democrats in Congress are considering passing a carbon tax after Sen. Joe Manchin (D–W.Va.) rejected their clean energy plan for addressing climate change.

    That could use some scare quotes.

    1. Here you go:

      Joe Manchin ("D"-W.Va.)

  33. I love how "you didn't build that" - we accomplish nothing w/o govt and they are so goddam vital, then Pete can announce he's been on paternity leave since Aug because nobody really noticed he was gone.

    We evidently can build all sorts of things w/o Pete.

  34. What? Nothing on the violence at the Interior Department? There was a fucking riot. But crickets here at Emote!

    1. Koch doesn't pay them to talk about shit he doesn't care about. For a "libertarian" magazine they're awfully deferential to their masters wishes.

      1. Yeah, you're right. But I must say, OBL is pure gold. Whoever that is, it is truly inspired writing. 🙂

  35. Dozens of them stormed out of a virtual meeting with White House officials in protest of the administration's revival of the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP), reports Politico.

    And by 'storm' we mean forcefullly closed the tab on their laptops and continued brunch in their PJ pants. Nobody needs more than 10 people leaving a Zoom meeting at one time, ban assault logoffs.

  36. SHIT YER PANTS BOYS! SUPERMAN IS A WOKE HOMO!

    Right-wing media complain bisexual Superman is “indoctrination,” “deviant”

    By Jane Lee | WASHINGTON – Right-wing media attacked DC Comics and writer Tom Taylor for portraying Superman as bisexual in an upcoming issue of the current series, complaining that they were attempting to cater to the left and sway the minds of children.

    On October 11, DC Comics announced that the new Superman Jon Kent, son of Clark Kent and Lois Lane, has come out as bisexual and will have a male love interest in an upcoming issue. Unsurprisingly, conservative media figures expressed their outrage over the announcement while claiming not to care about a character’s sexuality. Most dismissed the announcement as DC Comics pandering to woke people, while others read a darker meaning, claiming that the decision to portray Superman as bisexual is an attempt to “erase straight white male characters.”

    https://www.losangelesblade.com/2021/10/17/right-wing-media-complain-bisexual-superman-is-indoctrination-deviant/

    1. Speaking of pants-shitting, do you have any terrifying intel updates today? As you're no doubt aware, this is the one month anniversary of the SECOND INSURRECTION BY RIGHTWING EXTREMISTS you warned us about. Should I once again hoard non-perishable food so I don't have to leave my home?

      #9/18WasWorseThan9/11
      #ButtplugHasTheBestIntel

      1. Generals Lindell, Bannon, and other patriots are masterminding a second attack on the US Capitol as we write this. All under the silent guidance of El Presidente for Life Trump of course.

        1. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd is a pathological lair, sufficiently stupid such the he doesn’t even know he’s lying, nor that everyone else does.
          turd lies; it’s all turd does.

        2. Whatever you say, racist.

        3. "Generals Lindell, Bannon, and other patriots are masterminding a second attack on the US Capitol"

          Wow! Have you warned your politruk, Shrike?
          That's some pretty big intel. Are you a super-secret spy? You know, Soros fifty-center by day, Proud Boy infiltrator by night?

      2. Ahem. The assault on liberties was 10/14

    2. Yawn. Boring culture war crap is boring.

    3. turd lies. It's what turd does. turd is a pathological lair, sufficiently stupid such the he doesn't even know he's lying, nor that everyone else does.
      turd lies; it's all turd does.

      1. Sevo wears his MAGA cap like a crown
        He calls his boy Jesus
        Cause he likes The Grand Old Party
        And he lends him to the biggest creep around

        Sevo, Sevo needs his money
        Doesn’t have a lot they say
        He spends his days begging
        Under a bridge down by the San Fran Bay.

        He was born a troll for The Donald on Christmas Day
        When the New York Times said your god is dead
        The culture war’s begun
        Stephen Bannon has a son today

        And he shall be Sevo
        And he shall be a small man
        In tradition with the Party plan
        And he shall be Sevo

        Sevo sells cartoon balloons in town
        The Party business thrives
        Sevo blows up balloons all day
        sitting under the bridge watching them fly

        1. There once was a hicklib named Shriek
          At little kids he did love to peek
          He was banned for links
          From paying bets he shrinks
          And simping for lefties he seeks

        2. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd is a pathological lair, sufficiently stupid such the he doesn’t even know he’s lying, nor that everyone else does. And he's stupid enough to think some lame rhyme packed with lies is 'clever'.
          turd lies; it’s all turd does.

        3. "And he lends him to the biggest creep around"

          But isn't that you? I mean you're the only guy here who's actually a proven pedophile.

    4. SHIT YER PANTS BOYS! SUPERMAN IS A WOKE HOMO!

      Shit your pants over what? The Comic Book industry has been getting woke and going broke for the better part of a decade now. Nobody will buy it and in 6 issues they'll reboot it. A year from now, Zack Snyder will have made more money noticing that Batman and Superman's 'Mom' have the same name, Mindgeek will have made more money off an actual gay Superman story, more comic book stores will have closed or merged into novelty chains, and everyone will still recall that Jon Kent died of a heart attack.

      1. Meanwhile everyone reads Japanese comics instead. One Piece, which only started in 1999, has outsold every Superman issue ever.

    5. woke ruins everything

      comics are now the cringy christian movies of our time

  37. The New Zealand city of Christchurch has fired its municipal wizard of 23 years after he made a joke about beating women.

    The muggles just don't understand the culture.

  38. "MPP, known informally as "Remain in Mexico," was a program started under President Donald Trump. It required asylum seekers to stay in Mexico while waiting for U.S. immigration court hearings."

    Part of this is about progressives failures to deal with 1) reality, 2) the Constitution, and 3) progressive contempt for the opinions of average people.

    1) Trump administration policy on those asylum seekers was driven by the huge influx of asylum seekers--not by an evil darkness in President Tump's heart. Progressives love to imagine that if we only thought and felt about things differently, the fabric of reality itself would change to support what they want. In reality, magical thinking is nothing, and the same realities that drove Trump's solutions are pushing Biden to do the same thing. The primary difference is Biden's willingness to support the progressive media narrative, which isn't a real difference at all.

    2) The Constitution enumerates the power to set the rules of immigration and naturalization to Congress, and asylum claims are governed by the rules Congress has made (either itself or through treaties) whether progressives or the Biden administration likes it or not. DACA itself was the primary cause of the influx of asylum seekers from the Northern Triangle countries, and its existence and survival was not a testament to the ability of progressives presidents to defy the courts, the law, and the Constitution forever.

    It's time for progressives to come to terms with the fact that there is no long term substitute for congressional action, and instead of concentrating their efforts on inflicting a progressive immigration policy on their fellow, unwilling Americans by means of violating the separation of powers, progressives need to persuade their fellow Americans to change their minds instead.

    3) Progressives are disgusted by the idea of trying to change the minds of average Americans to support their immigration policies because they hold average Americans in contempt. The whole progressive purpose of using the coercive power of government to inflict their polices on the people is partially driven by their contempt for average Americans and their unwillingness to try to persuade them.

    I often argue that it's practically impossible to persuade anyone of anything unless you convince them that you care about them and what they think first, but the higher hurdle may be getting progressive to care about their fellow Americans--rather than denigrate them as racists, misogynists, homophobes, and xenophobes. If changing policy requires them to treat average Americans as anything but racists, misogynists, homophobes, and xenophobes, then progressives prefer authoritarianism.

    1. Caw! Caw!

      1. You Caw! Caw!’ed your own comment.

        1. No concept of caws and effect.

        2. You can't say that the joke went over Mike's head, because he was the joke.

        3. A preemptive caw. Like Babe Ruth when he cawed his shot.

      2. Well done Ken. The fact that it went over Dee’s head is a nice bonus.

    2. The problem with progressives always comes from failure #1. Progressive philosophy and "intellect" is based on their fundamental rule, "always trust your feelings". And progressive feelings are rooted in sympathy for those they designate as unfairly treated, dislike for those who have too much, and self-hatred. Thus, progressive reality is not only arbitrary, it is far from rational and highly destructive.

      1. There is a willful desire to ignore reality, as well.

        When DACA first came about, there were less than 1,000 asylum claims from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras every year--combined. That total slowly increased until, at one point during the Trump administration, 150,000 a month were coming to cross the border and seek asylum. The interesting thing was that 80% of them were either children or families traveling together with children.

        How often have you seen the connection to DACA referenced in the media? How willfully stupid would we need to be to deny that a public proclamation promising not to deport children would encourage people in the Northern Triangle countries to send their children to the United States to live with relatives or to leave El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras themselves to go along?

        It isn't even an outcome issue. The reason Congress hasn't acted to protect the dreamers is because as long as DACA is sitting there, the moderates in purple and red districts don't need to go on the record in Congress to save them. The progressives in the media won't even talk about the problem at the border in terms of DACA.

        It's willful ignorance. If solving the border crisis requires the Democrats in Congress to act on behalf of the dreamers, and that requires the media to be honest about the problems DACA was causing, they'd rather let children stew in overcrowded detention centers than to publicly say something negative about DACA. The ignorance has a source, and it's willful ignorance.

  39. https://twitter.com/DaytonGriffinL1/status/1450100057500495875

    One person already told people not to freak out about the election results. This is because Fairfax county will be reporting later than normal. I'm sure no shenanigans will happen. Rolling on the floor laughing The tweet talking about this is by Ben Tribbett.

  40. "With vaccine mandates looming, companies are worried about worker shortages"
    [...]
    "The coming federal vaccine mandate could result in a wave of firings of employees who are reluctant to get the life-saving shots. That has many companies nervous that those jobs will be difficult to fill in a labor market where willing hands are increasingly hard to come by...."
    https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/With-vaccine-mandates-looming-companies-are-16536621.php?cmpid=gsa-sfgate-result

    Next, droolin' Joe will mandate that you must get vaxxed even if you don't work!

    1. jobs are already hard to fill, and their plan to get things back on track is to fire 30% of the workers?

      1. Exactly! It's the Jay Inslee plan! Now he's going to destroy the healthcare system we had to stay home for 16 months to save.

  41. "I cannot stand one more meeting of them pretending," Ariana Saludares, a 40-year-old advocate from the New Mexico–based organization Colores United and attendee of the Saturday meeting with White House officials, told Politico. "They give us accolades on the outside, but on the inside, we're having to take out the metaphoric knives from our back."

    So start your own country, and then invite whoever you like.

    1. I’m inviting people that know to use “whomever” in that sentence.

      1. Good luck running Grammarland.

        1. Thanks! Technically, it is the Twin Kingdoms of Spellingland and Grammarland.

          1. You name the blanket forts in your room?

          2. So stem personnel are not welcomed, great plan

        2. Grammarland's going to become a banana republic because White Mike doesn't understand quotation marks:

          https://reason.com/2021/01/16/the-capitol-riot-qualified-immunity-and-politics-as-usual/#comment-8707335

  42. Fully-vaccinated former Secretary of State Colin Powell, 84, dies of COVID complications while battling Parkinson's and blood cancer: George W. Bush leads tributes to foreign policy powerhouse who served four presidents

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10103527/Colin-Powell-84-dies-complications-COVID.html

    There we go folks. More proof that the vaccine is a sham.

    1. True definition of a conservative/Trumper: Vaccines are a sham but prayer saves lives!

      1. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd is a pathological lair, sufficiently stupid such the he doesn’t even know he’s lying, nor that everyone else does.
        turd lies; it’s all turd does.

        1. Get back to your hood, Sevo.

          1. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd is a pathological lair, sufficiently stupid such the he doesn’t even know he’s lying, nor that everyone else does.
            turd lies; it’s all turd does.

      2. So you come here every day and presumably read many comments where conservatives and libertarians make their actual arguments against vaccine mandates and explain why they question the effectiveness of the vaccines. Yet this is still your response.

        1. I am against any federal mandate.

          I also consider someone who refuses the vaccine a "genetic discard" and their death is good for the gene pool.

          1. Shriek knows about "genetic discards" because he sees them all the time. It's called a mirror.

          2. Well, you're an asshole, then. But we knew that.

            I hate to break it to you, but refusing the vaccine doesn't significantly increase a person's risk of dying, as gleeful as pieces of garbage like you might be about the prospect.

            1. I'm glad my folks got jabbed. They've both got breathing issues, so COVID would likely be a death sentence.

              1. Yeah, for sure. I would encourage people with elevated risk to do so. For older and sicker people, I'm sure it does reduce your risk of dying.

                1. Colin Powell on line 2.

                  1. Reduce risk, not eliminate the possibility.

          3. If turd posts it, it's a lie. It's all he does.

          4. I also consider someone who refuses the vaccine a “genetic discard”

            Powell was vaccinated, Shrike. You just basically shit on your whole argument.

    2. The vaccines don’t prevent 84 year olds from dying, therefore they are useless.

      1. No one is saying they are useless. For fuck's sake, you are here every day and you still can't respond to the actual arguments people make and just build strawmen to slay.
        The vaccines don't stop infection or transmission, making it both immoral and useless to mandate vaccination.

        1. Even if they did, mandates would still be immoral. Just by the fact that it isn't a plague that kills indiscriminately. You gotta be old, sick with something else, or just plain unlucky for this thing to kill you.

          1. Yet you've fought daily the people here who have said exactly what you just said. As Zeb points out. You realize that right?

        2. No one is saying they are useless.

          You did say just that above refusing the vaccine doesn’t significantly increase a person’s risk of dying.

          1. turd lies. It’s what turd does. turd is a pathological lair, sufficiently stupid such the he doesn’t even know he’s lying, nor that everyone else does.
            turd lies; it’s all turd does.

          2. Because for most people it doesn't. I mean overall risk of death. The odds that a healthy non-geriatric person will die of covid with or without vaccination is on the order of the chances of dying from a lightning strike.

          3. IFR of my age group is 0.3%
            IFR of vaxxed in my age group is 0.05%.

            My real risk reduction is 0.25%.

            1. And (assuming you aren't morbidly obese), if you add some other factors in your real risk is even lower in either case.

              But be careful how you state that last part. Your real risk reduction is 0.25 percentage points, not 0.25%. Your risk is reduced sixfold with the vaccine. But normal, sane people don't spend a lot of time worrying about risks that low, even if it is possible to reduce them even more.

    3. he died from being 84 with parkinsons and blood cancer, not Covid.

  43. "Maine is cracking down on obscene license plates. The state is in the middle of making new rules that would prohibit the words fuck, shit, and other obscenities unfit for print from appearing on vanity plates."

    What about "Let's Go Brandon"?

    1. Or:
      "Fuck Biden"

      1. "Fick Buden"?

    2. FCKTLPA

    3. Can you demonstrate how “Let’s go Brandon” would be translated into License Plate?

      1. LG BRNDN

        I've seen less comprehensible ones.

      2. "...“Let’s go Brandon” would be translated into License Plate?"

        "FUCKOFFANDDIEMIKE"

      3. FJB

        1. FJB

    4. This past weekend almost mowed “FUCK JOE BIDEN” in one of the fields so pilots and Google Earth can have some fun. Maybe Shenna Bellows can send me a atrongly worded letter.

  44. Afghanistan's economy has imploded, and the people of Afghanistan are on the brink of starvation. You'd think there would be a big influx of humanitarian aid, like there is in other dangerous places like this, but international aid agencies are having trouble drumming up support for Afghanistan--apparently because progressives don't want to give the people of Afghanistan humanitarian aid unless the Taliban agrees to treat women as equals.

    "Afghanistan’s new health minister, a urologist appointed by the Taliban and one of the few non-clerics in the new administration, pleaded for the international community not to abandon the country.

    “It is the same mother, the same child, the same patient you were previously helping. They haven’t changed,” Dr. Qalandar Ibaad said in an interview. “Governments change in all countries.”

    Groups like the International Committee of the Red Cross and the U.N. warn that emergency humanitarian aid must be unconditional. While demanding that the Taliban allow women to study and work is important, they argue, a more urgent priority is to make sure women don’t freeze or starve to death this winter.

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/as-afghanistan-sinks-into-destitution-some-sell-children-to-survive-11634387501?

    I'm not saying that U.S. taxpayers should be forced at gunpoint to provide food and medicine for the people of Afghanistan. I am pointing out that progressive ideology is so rigid in its commitment to forced sacrifice to achieve progressive goals, that they will starve women and children to death, on principle, in order to promote education for girls. When you see progressives sacrificing democracy and free expression by siccing the FBI on parents who oppose their local school board, or something else like that here in the U.S., don't think that's as low as progressives will go. Progressive depravity goes far deeper than that.

    1. Yes that's it. You figured it out. Progressives did it!

      1. You're an idiot. And in this case, by refusing to help because they believe they should be allowed to dictate how other people live their lives, yes, progressives are complicit in the starvation, rape and murder of the women and children in Afghanistan.

        1. That article is about people in Afghanistan selling their daughters to settle debts--because they couldn't afford to buy food.

          The idea of fighting for the rights of women is so important to progressives, that they don't care about the consequences.

          It's a religious conviction kind of thing. Progressives don't want to be deceived by the world they see. They must keep the faith.

          1. P.S. It works the same way when progressives are sacrificing the economy for global warming or sacrificing free speech for CRT, etc. Don't be discouraged by the negative consequences of what we're doing. Sacrifices must be made in order to get to paradise, and being part of that makes them feel like they're part of something bigger than themselves. It gives their lives meaning. They may not say they believe in any religion, but progressives are deeply religious people.

            1. Blasphemy is still an offense, but the gods are different.

          2. "It’s a religious conviction kind of thing. Progressives don’t want to be deceived by the world they see. They must keep the faith."

            Strazele's furious and instinctual retort was an excellent example of this.

        2. Progressives get away with rape and murder in the US, why should Afghanistan have different rules?

    2. My that really strained to make an anti-progressive point. It’s almost like you start with the diatribe you want to make, then strain the use of logic to get there.

      1. Caws and effect.

      2. No True Progressive Fallacy.

        Seems to be popular here with the both sides crowd the last few days.

      3. But remember folks, White Mike totally isn't a progressive. Just ask him.

    3. Ken, you know you're doing well when both these steaming piles f lefty shit beat up strawmen over your comment.

      1. Apparently two steps in a chain of logic is too many for them.

        1. So, I'm sure you would have no problem outlining the steps in Ken's logic for us right here, to enlighten us.

          1. Lefty assholes like you are not worth engaging; fuck off and die.

          2. read it yourself the content is right there

          3. He laid it all out for you. It's the stuff that you dismiss as "wordy".

            A reminder that one of Mike's stated reasons for being here is to harass Ken:

            Mike Laursen
            September.18.2021 at 11:38 am
            SQRLSY, can you cover for me today? In a typical day, I usually post comments pointing out logical flaws, contradictions and partisanship in Ken’s essays, which he regards as examples of flawless logical thinking

          4. Choor thing; Ku-klux Ken uses simple rules of inference:
            major premise: Orange man God
            minor premise: Senile Dem idjit hate God
            conclusion: Dem idjit Baad. We Wuz Robbed!
            Q.E.D.

            1. Puff puff give mother fucker!

            2. Ah, thanks.

            3. This is what happens when one eats paint chips as a kid.

            4. Hey mom! Call poison control! Grandpa doubled-up on his meds again!

      2. Strazele's response reads like a confession.

        It's sarcastic, but still--is that the best he can do?

        1. You're too kind. Shitlord *tried* to be sarcastic, and by missing, ended up failing. No surprise; it takes some degree of intelligence to do sarcasm, and shitlord doesn't have any.

  45. "New York City is looking to turn a massive public graveyard into a public park. Fun!"

    So, probably not an Indian school cemetery.

  46. "Monica Gandhi is S.F.'s outlier COVID expert. Her view on it: 'I'm not saying anything crazy'"

    This did not show up in the dead-tree version of the Chron; some 'newspaper'.

  47. • The San Francisco Chronicle has a long profile on Monica Gandhi, a San Francisco doctor who has generated controversy for advocating a slightly more liberal, harm reduction–oriented approach to the pandemic.

    Funny how the Chronicle article refers to the unscientific totalitarian covid lockdowns by left wing Democrats (whose primary goal was to blame and oust Trump) as "conservative" policies, while Britschgi describes lockdown and mask mandate supporter Gandhi as "liberal".

    Seems like left wing propagandists (including Britschgi) refer to everything they disdain (including things they previously embraced) as "conservative", and everything they like as "liberal".

    1. Well, by the plain meaning of the word, not having restrictive policies is in fact the liberal position.
      Some people do seem to think that "conservative" means "authoritarian", but that's certainly not the case in general for American conservatism.

    2. "Immigration Activists Sever Conversations With White House Over Return of Trump-Era Border Policy"

      Correction: "Illegal Immigration Activists Sever Conversations With White House Over Return of Trump-Era Border Policy"

      Nothing like referring to people who want tens of millions of foreigners to illegally enter America and be given free housing, food, education, healthcare, childcare, citizenship, etc. as "immigration activists".

      Britschgi again misleads readers by using incorrect (but politically popular) words to describe those who promote left wing lawlessness.

    3. "Seems like left wing propagandists (including Britschgi) refer to everything they disdain (including things they previously embraced) as “conservative”, and everything they like as “liberal”.

      I think it's important to distinguish between the progressives and everyone else on the left.

      What we're really talking about in the lockdowns is authoritarian polices (using the coercive power of government to control behavior) rather than something on the left, which I generally associate with socialism. I oppose socialism, in no uncertain terms, regardless of the extreme to which the socialist wants to go, but it's the radicalness of the authoritarianism that's the defining feature of the progressives, specifically, when compared to moderate Democrats.

      George Orwell was a socialist who abhorred authoritarianism, and I'm a capitalist who abhors authoritarianism. If the enemy is the authoritarianism inherent within progressivism, then we should be able to find common ground with moderate Democrats against progressives just like I can find common ground with Orwell (or Orwell can find common ground with me, a rabid capitalist swine). The Independents and Democrats who are abandoning their support for Biden are ripe for the picking.

      We may need to clarify that while we don't agree with moderate Democrats on a whole slew of issues, we can agree with them that the authoritarianism of progressives make them the biggest threat to the economy and our liberty. It's a real problem for Democrats if the only way to defeat the authoritarianism of the progressives is to vote Republican, and we may need to help our friends and family differentiate between moderate Democrats and progressives for that reason.

      I propose the list of members in the Congressional Progressive Caucus as a guide. Their identities are not unknown, and voting against them--in the primaries and the general election--may be an important part of the solution. Anyone on that list or endorsed by the Congressional Progressive Caucus is an authoritarian who needs to be defeated in the primaries or the general election. They're probably the biggest threat to the long term health of the Democratic party, too.

    4. "Seems like left wing propagandists (including Britschgi) refer to everything they disdain (including things they previously embraced) as “conservative”, and everything they like as “liberal”."

      Like how 3rd graders invent realities where their side is all good, anyone not on their side is all bad, actual, consistent principles have nothing to do with it, and name calling is everything?

      1. I think some of them take it as a sacred mission to thwart the heathens.

        They can't let Republicans imagine their thoughts are acceptable in polite society.

    5. Trumpistas really know how to nurse a grudge. But the fact is that until he started listening to ku-klux girl bulliers, Positive Christian National Socialists and worshippers of James Bartlett Battersby The Don was probably preferable to the senescent author of the Anti-Drug-Abuse act of 1986 that brought the Crash and Recession when it became enforceable. Biden can't recall asking the death sentence for potheads, and his soft machine claims the same early onset. Runner-up to a senile idiot is not CV material. But the LP antichoice harridan and communist anarchist ticket was arguably worse. Try some of that Dr Trump butthurt salve.

    6. “A liberal is intolerant of other views. He wants to control your thoughts and actions.”
      -Lyndon Baines Johnson

      “I’ve never been a liberal in any way, shape, or form.”
      -Joe Manchin III

      “I’m a liberal.”
      -Matt “Park Slope Welchie Boy” Welch

  48. Bummer about the license plates. When I go to Walmart I park in the very back just so I can be entertained by vanity plates as I walk to the store and back.

    1. You should try the parking lots at Whole Foods, and check out the plates. Not personal vanities, but the "special cause" plates.

      1. I can't afford to shop at Whole Paycheck, but thanks for the idea.

        1. Poor sarc. No marketable skills.

          1. He tried to get a second job but couldn’t. You know, because there’s no jobs available.

  49. "It's almost like we were bamboozled into thinking that this was going to be the best option,"

    Well, you were dealing with Democrats.

    1. Its not like Joe didn't have a 30+ year history that they could have examined. It's not like he was nominated for the sole purpose of recapturing the white blue collared/unionist vote from Donald Trump.

  50. "They give us accolades on the outside, but on the inside, we're having to take out the metaphoric knives from our back."

    Is it still a metaphor if you call it a metaphor?

    1. I'm going to say no. Not sure what that makes it, though.

      1. Asinine.

    2. It requires a metaphorensic analysis to take a stab at that.

  51. States that want to ban certain words from their license plates have a much simpler alternative: the state itself should buy those license plates and stash them somewhere.

    1. And then conduct a symbolic plate burning.

      1. Or better yet, sell them to Mexican drug cartels, then when the cartels use those plates, use it as anti-rude plate propaganda.

  52. His continuation of many of the past administration's draconian border policies has left activists feeling betrayed.

    What’s so draconian about being told to wait in your own country while we evaluate your claim instead of just waltzing in?

    Is waiting on the front porch draconian while I see who’s at the door?

  53. White Louisiana sheriff's deputy is filmed slamming 4'8 black woman to ground so hard her braids broke off after she 'refused to talk to him'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10101639/White-Louisiana-cop-filmed-brutally-slamming-48-one-eyed-black-woman-ground.html

    That's what she gets for refusing to talk to the cop, even though she was under no legal obligation to do so. She said "I just want to go home" and he said "Oh yeah? You're going to the hospital, bitch."

    And apparently he keeps visiting her house. You know, to remind her that he knows where she lives.

    Heroes.

    1. Trump Encourages Cops To Rough Up Suspects-They Applaud

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9nl00N6I5Ak

      Don't worry you'll get your chance to put Republicans back in power!

      1. Check the link, please.
        It make clear that shitlord is entirely too stupid to see that Trump is joking with a bunch of cops, NOT encourageing them to do anything like what the lying piece of lefty shit claims.

    2. Texas Governor Babbitt wanted to deputize all three of the Ahmaud Arbery murder defendants, grant them asylum and immunity, and set them to catching pregnant women for bounties... but one of the rednecks may be disqualified from "catchin'" in Texas for "lack of zeal" in the Georgia citizen's arrest case. Marjorie Greene Teeth (R-GA) was unavailable to comment.

      1. What the fuck is wrong with you, grandpa?

  54. >>"I cannot stand one more meeting of them pretending,"

    stop voting for (D) ... and (R)

  55. >>New York City is looking to turn a massive public graveyard into a public park. Fun!

    Poltergeist V

    1. Getting pulled into the portal at the top of the slide and coming out, covered in goo at the bottom sounds like fun and it's not like the pool would be any more dangerous than Action Park.

      1. oh ya dude I would have made the jump.

    2. Remember, in March, when federal taxpayers had to bail them out--because there was nothing left to cut after the pandemic?

      Your tax dollars at work!

      1. no new slide or swings. play around the headstones.

    3. They will be coffin up some money for this.

  56. "Immigration Activists Sever Conversations With White House Over Return of Trump-Era Border Policy"

    I'm on the (more) legal immigration side of the debate, but certainly not in favor of allowing any and all a free-pass; prove to me you're not a criminal running from the law in your country, etc.
    But if droolin' Joe isn't careful here, he (or his handlers) might get a thumbs-up from me: "immigration activist" sounds entirely too close to "community organizer" (or "vote harvester", for that matter).

  57. SO Country Joe MacDonald can't drive around Maine wearing his GIMEANF California tag?

  58. Immigration Activists Sever Conversations With White House Over Return of Trump-Era Border Policy

    There was never a conversation. Biden was doing what they told him to do. They were happy. Now he's not doing what they told him to do - so they're mad and stomped off.

    1. The word "conversation" has really been abused for some time now. When did that start? Sometime in the Obama admin?

      1. We should have a conversation regarding when this first began.

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