Daunte Wright Shooting a Reminder That It's Not Cops Who Should Fear for Their Lives During Traffic Stops
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The truth about traffic stops and violence. The fatal shooting of Daunte Wright during a traffic stop by a police officer and union boss who supposedly can't tell her taser from her gun spawned a rash of demonstrations against police brutality in which protesters were met with more police brutality. It's also opened yet another discussion about U.S. policing—why do we need armed authorities to enforce traffic violations anyway?—and how overcriminalization leads to tragedy. Stupid laws spawn enforcement of stupid laws by trigger-happy cops who have been primed to see much of the American populace as threats to control, rather than people they're supposed to "serve and protect."
One commonly-offered defense in cases of cops murdering people during routine traffic stops is that such stops can be incredibly dangerous for police officers. State authorities and their bootlickers try hard to convince us that police fear and subsequent overreaction during traffic stops is only rational in the face of the extreme danger such stops place them in. Traffic stops very frequently end badly for police, they say.
But it's actually not true that traffic stops are a major source of serious violence against police officers. A paper published in the Michigan Law Review in 2019 ("Policing, Danger Narratives, and Routine Traffic Stops") found the likelihood of an officer being killed during a routine traffic stop was one in 6.5 million.
"It's drilled into police that traffic stop ambushes are routine. They aren't," points out Radley Balko of The Washington Post on Twitter. "They happen, but they're vanishingly rare. And the federal courts' view that stops are inherently dangerous is based on an unscientific survey from 1964."
Those cases are of course tragic and awful. But drumming it into cops to see every stop as his or her potential last has real world consequences. As we've seen.
An officer is orders of magnitude more likely to die of a lightning strike or insect sting. https://t.co/5ozoW2vztT
— Radley Balko (@radleybalko) April 12, 2021
Serious injury to a police officer is estimated to happen in one out of every 361,111 stops, and the estimate for "the rate for an assault against officers (whether it results in injury or not) was only 1 in every 6,959 stops," writes University of Arkansas Professor Jordan Blair Woods, the author of the Michigan Law Review paper.
For the study, Woods reviewed data of "thousands of traffic stops that resulted in violence against officers across more than 200 law enforcement agencies in Florida over a 10-year period." He also developed a typology of violence warning signs:
The typology indicates that a narrow set of observable contextual factors precedes most of this violence—most commonly, signs of flight or intoxication. The typology further reveals important qualitative differences regarding violence during traffic stops initiated for only traffic enforcement versus criminal enforcement.
The study has significant implications for law enforcement agencies and courts. The findings and typology have the potential to inform police training and prompt questions about whether greater invocation of police authority during routine stops for traffic violations undermines, rather than advances, both officer and civilian safety. The findings also lay an early empirical foundation for rethinking fundamental assumptions about officer safety and routine traffic stops in Fourth Amendment doctrine.
In any event, the fact that stops over minor motor vehicle infractions do sometimes lead to violence—against police officers and the people they pull over—presents yet another reason to resist putting police and drivers in direct contact over non-risky matters like expired licenses, a broken taillight, or an illegally hung air freshener.
Everytime you say, "There oughta be a law", you're actually saying, "I wish armed thugs were roaming around using this as an excuse to murder people." Because ALL laws are "enforced" via the implied threat of death: https://t.co/G6L1MRoGgQ https://t.co/HfYsTpkPzg
— Maggie McNeill (@Maggie_McNeill) April 13, 2021
If folks insist on criminalizing or fining drivers for some such infractions still, that could be taken care of with photographs and paper notices, as many speeding tickets are. This would put both cops and drivers in less danger. That we don't operate this way shows how much authorities rely on routine—and often pretextual—traffic stops as a way to search for drugs or find other reasons to harass and arrest people they don't like the looks of.
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Critical Race Theory or Ku Klux Klan? [Pic]
Reddit has r/StormfrontorSJW, Stormfront or Social Justice Warrior? which can sometimes be hilarious/depressing.
Both. The Democrats haven't changed in the last 100 years.
The fatal shooting of Daunte Wright during a traffic stop by a police officer and union boss who supposedly can't tell her taser from her gun spawned a rash of demonstrations against police brutality...
...and police hiring practices?
"Taser!"
I think she meant to shout "racism!"
But it's actually not true that traffic stops are a major source of serious violence against police officers.
Blue Lives Matter takes issue with your definitions of major and serious. If it saves one cop life...
Well, its actually much more dangerous for cops than for unarmed black people. So if black people get to use the excuse that they are afraid to resist and flee...
You're talking to someone who thinks more people should be armed, but if cops want to flee from a stop they initiated, knock yourselves out.
This article is idiotic on its face.
Cops get assaulted every 7000 stops, grt seriously injured every 360,000, and killed every 3 million. But they shouldnt be cautious. (Now do those stats and other workplace safety).
But black people should be in terror anx assume cops are going to kill them, because of much lower stats. So, by all means, fight and flee is your best option rather than taking a ticket.
But the coup de grace is :
"The typology indicates that a narrow set of observable contextual factors precedes most of this violence—most commonly, signs of flight or intoxication. The typology further reveals important qualitative differences regarding violence during traffic stops initiated for only traffic enforcement versus criminal enforcement."
Ummm, Daute Wright was fighting and fleeing a criminal arrest, not a traffic ticket, so this meets the high danger category the article outlined.
None of which matters, really, as this shooting was accidental, as the result of human error of the worst sort, having a poorly trained Mom out working as a cop.
Which wouldnt have mattered if the suspect hadnt jumped behind the wheel and tried to speed off with cops hanging onto him. So the blame lies ultimately with him for being a dumbass. Black people dont get to voluntarily opt out of arrests
One assault in 7,000 stops and roughly 1 in 90 of those results in serious injury. This means an officer can expect to be assaulted once ever 2-3 years. Serious injury would occur in a mid-size department annually. That is assuming we take these numbers at face value, which is questionable, as the article has an obvious conclusion that they wish us to draw. Only 1% of assaults succeed in serious injury seems suspiciously low, and as dWhite mentions, this would be very easy to manipulate results by messing with both the definition of "Serious" and adjusting the classification of arrests.
This is, of course, still several orders of magnitude more likely than death by school shooter. Something that our children are traumatically trained in routinely.
https://twitter.com/GeorgePapa19/status/1381705002289270787?s=19
Biden is now withholding $150 million in aid from Ukraine as tensions with Russia grow. I mentioned this a couple weeks ago. He wants to pressure Ukraine to drop all criminal investigations into him and his son, Hunter. Where’s the media on this extortion attempt?
All those anonymous sources at the FBI and Justice Department have suddenly developed laryngitis.
They're in Minneapolis, pushing a narrative for riots. Ukraine is far. Really far. The Minneapolis ghettos are close and familiar. Their 2nd home.
If they went to Ukraine, they would need to learn what is going on before they can report. They don't have the brain capacity nor the language capabilities. Overseas reporting would not match the US reports. They would make US reporters look stupid, because they are. They no longer have actual Journalists, just hacks, much like the buffoon that wrote this tale.
In Minneapolis, they can just support nonsense like "I can't breathe" and "He had air fresheners" and the denizens of the ghetto and their clueless suburban Cucks will soon parrot it and accept it as truth. It will be their battle cry.
The Russians deal with pesky reporters by shooting them. They target them. They send gunships to shoot up any vehicles carrying them. They did this in Afghanistan, they will do it again. I have to say, I prefer the Russian version to the US version where journalism supports arson and looting through false reporting and goads the looting savages on.
The Ukrainian police, the "Militcia, take corruption to a new level. They would provide zero protection to US reporters unless they paid a bribe. If they refused, you would find US reporters floating in the rivers and buried in shallow graves.
"Biden is now withholding $150 million in aid from Ukraine..."
Liar! Pants on fire!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/biden-administration-announces-125m-military-aid-package-ukraine-n1259254
Biden administration announces $125M military aid package for Ukraine
Ukraine is locked in a costly struggle with Russia. Former President Trump was impeached for allegedly withholding aid to pressure the country to investigate the Bidens.
What? No quote from Salon?
He is waiting on HuffPo to confirm.
'Nother spaz-flag
That doesn't prove they aren't withholding other aid, comrade.
Maybe you should try not being an idiot if you're going to spam propaganda.
That doesn’t prove there aren't any unicorns either. Or that you are a right-wing nut on autopilot.
"That doesn’t prove there aren’t any unicorns either"
So you admit you were just spamming irrelevant nonsense as propaganda while lying about others being liars.
So when you say "either" that appears to indicate that you know your post didn't actually demonstrate that someone you insulted was in fact lying.
Didn't you say
"Insults are the last resort of the utterly empty-headed."?
and "you are a right-wing nut on autopilot."
?
So you're saying that you're at your last resort and are utterly empty headed?
Please refute the below, evasive liar!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/biden-administration-announces-125m-military-aid-package-ukraine-n1259254
Biden administration announces $125M military aid package for Ukraine
Ukraine is locked in a costly struggle with Russia. Former President Trump was impeached for allegedly withholding aid to pressure the country to investigate the Bidens.
"evasive liar!"
"Insults are the last resort of the utterly empty-headed"
So... WHEN did you say that you'll address the facts in the link that I posted? Utterly empty-headed wonder?
"Utterly empty-headed wonder?"
“Insults are the last resort of the utterly empty-headed”
"nuh-unh! Oink! you!"
Got anything else yet?
"“nuh-unh! Oink! you!”"
"“Insults are the last resort of the utterly empty-headed”
God sarcasmic has gone full on pathetic.
AFTER one presents the facts (and the well-reasoned and ethical "right thing to do"), and the stupid and evil still resist... Because they are stupid and evil... Then one has to shrug, and say to oneself, "all that is left to me now, sad to say, is to warn others that we are dealing, here, with stupid and evil people". John the Baptist AND Jesus had to deal with the same thing. Or do you think that THEY were stupid and evil, stupid and evil one?
https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-33.htm
You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For out of the overflow of the heart, the mouth speaks.
"You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil"
“Insults are the last resort of the utterly empty-headed”
Lol, he's back to the comparing himself to Jesus Christ phase of his persecution complex. I guess that's a downgrade. Last time he was Jesus Christ, Martin Luther King Jr AND Mahatma Gandhi
"Or do you think that THEY were stupid and evil, stupid and evil one? https://biblehub.com/matthew/23-33.htm"
“The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
An evil soul producing holy witness
Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
A goodly apple rotten at the heart.
O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!”
William Shakespeare
This is GREAT! From Mamma, of the ID Theft, who is ALSO an Expert Christian Theologian!
ID theft is theft, and EVIL lying!
It’s obvious to EVERYONE except totalitarian, authoritarian assholes like Mamma, who will lecture us on CORRECT Christian Theology, and then go right ahead and engage in blatant identity theft! CORRECT Christian Theology, to Mamma, is like a hairdo or brushing your teeth… Use the right brands and styles, and you are IN! But then treating others the way that you would NOT like to be treated? Like stealing your ID? Totes cool! ‘Cause Mamma is with the COOL KIDS, and any and all tactics to disparage people who are more honest and benevolent than she is? Her hunter-gatherer instincts-emotions instantly kick in! Honest people MUST be put down, so that SHE can RISE with respect to them! This could be called the Jesus-killer ( Mahatma Gandhi-killer, Martin Luther King Jr.-killer, etc.) instinct.
To understand more details of this, see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/
(I did forget... I need to add John the Baptist to the list. I think a previous incarnNASTYon of Mamma killed him!)
"totalitarian, authoritarian assholes like Mamma, "
“Insults are the last resort of the utterly empty-headed”
"! From Mamma, of the ID Theft"
Did you copyright your stupidity, Sqrls?
Mocking your crazy bullshit isn't theft of anything, FYI.
" Former President Trump was impeached for allegedly withholding aid"
Good to see that you finally acknowledge that Trump was impeached on an allegation and not anything factual.
Quid pro quo.
Doesn't that make him Putin's puppet?
...presents yet another reason to resist putting police and drivers in direct contact over non-risky matters like expired licenses, a broken taillight, or an illegally hung air freshener.
New narrative: LIBERTARIANS POUNCE
When some criminal smashes their unregistered, uninsured car into you, you pay, law abiding citizen! They can just take off every time if nobody is enforcing registration of the vehicles. Drivebys, looting, and general mayhem become much easier. You can just steal a set of plates on your way to "light someone up" if the cops can't use plate readers to pull you over before the crime spree.
No accountability has its issues. Nobody wants the police to chase anyone, that is fine, they can get them later if the car is registered. If it isn't, the bad guy gets away every single time. If you aren't punishing people for an unregistered plate, nobody will pay the fees. The fees are needed for the roads.
Why would we, the taxpayers, accept unchecked lawlessness? Who does that benefit? Certainly not the law abiding taxpayer. It only benefits criminals like this gun-wielding clown that resisted the other day.
This is big L libertopia where externalities don't exist, just idealism.
You're ok with license plate readers because . . .?
How about cameras in your house - if the police could monitor you you would be safer.
Because driving is not a right, it is a privilege. You don't have the right to drive an unregistered vehicle on pubic roads. The vehicles are registered for a myriad of reasons. Until you can personally finance and build the roads you drive on, you are going to have to share the road and cost with other drivers.
You do have the right to privacy in your own home unless you re still living with your Mom.
"Because driving is not a right, it is a privilege. You don’t have the right to drive an unregistered vehicle on pubic roads."
Spicy take at a Libertarian site.
Libertarians now okay with constant police video survalence to write tickets. where is my privacy.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1381960813003513860?s=19
BREAKING - Iran informs IAEA it will start 60% uranium enrichment from tomorrow. 1,000 more centrifuges to be introduced at Natanz nuclear facility.
If only we gave Iran more money to fund terrorism. Worked last time.
Natural Uranium ore has about 0.7% U235. Normal 'Low-enriched Uranium', for use in something like a boiling water reactor, is around 3.5 percent, though it can go out to 20 percent for certain LEU reactor fuels. https://www.world-nuclear.org/information-library/nuclear-fuel-cycle/conversion-enrichment-and-fabrication/uranium-enrichment.aspx
USN naval reactors are enriched much higher, 95-98%. But Iran isn't making a nuclear submarine any time soon. They're making a bomb.
Naval reactors are boiling water reactors.
95%+ is weapons grade - not used in a reactor.
US Naval reactors are PWRs, not BWRs, and---as fucked up as it sounds at first glance---US naval reactors are fueled with highly enriched Uranium. In excess of 90 percent U235, and 93 percent keeps getting mentioned. This paper from NTI, discusses the subject in detail: https://media.nti.org/pdfs/Replacing_HEU_in_Naval_Reactors_Report_FINAL.pdf
Perhaps that'll change with the Columbias? The paper mentions that other navies get away with much less enrichment.
I recall discussing the subject here a few years ago with the poster, "tarran," who AIUI used to work either on submarines or in a CVN's engine room. I wondered how they prevented battle damage from inadvertently creating a supercritical mass, and he mentioned, in as much as he could, that design geometry, borating the water, and other methods were used.
Page 20 of the lengthy pdf is where it gets up to speed on US naval reactor fuels. They crib heavily from Polmar's book on US submarines. I do remember reading online elsewhere before, some master's thesis on the subject of getting away from HEU in naval reactors.
GE Nuclear Energy POUNCES
...stop giving out the Johnson & Johnson COVID-19 vaccine because out of the 7 million doses given so far, six people developed a blood clotting disorder.
Why, that's almost the odds of dying from COVID itself!
Fun fact; the disease that causes those clots "naturally" (pre-covid) occurs at a rate of 5 per million.
The vaccine rate incidence is less than 1 in a million.
Yet we are supposed to believe the federal government?
Other fun facts;
1 - getting the vaccine does not give you any "permissions" to ignore the silly-ass restrictions.
2 - All of the vaccines are experiential, being administered under "emergency use" conditions.
More then 1 in 1000 people in this country have died of Covid.
New here?
The weird thing is, I don't know a single person that has died from Covid. It must be my healthy lifestyle and life choices.
My fat, ultra-liberal sister claims that she knows more than a dozen people that have died, probably two dozen by now. I'm guessing that they are getting it in their "self induced diabetes support group".
"More then 1 in 1000 people in this country have died of Covid."
I'm guessing that MG's numbers-skills are far too limited for that pile of lefty shit to understand that to be 1/10th of 1%; close to a rounding error.
I think that was her point. At least that's the way I read it.
With covid* which includes 3 months of detectable virus levels after you've recovered.
So not very many. Good to know.
how many people get blood clots on a regular basis before the shot?
It's funny Nate Silver is complaining about overreacting. I'm sorry those folks made it the norm for the last year so this shouldn't be a surprise from octuple mask crew. It sucks but that's the bed they made for us media. It's more surprising that he would be aghast that they overreacted.
*"they made for us by the media"
STFU, serf, and listen to your feudal lords and their clergy!
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/significant-proportion-brits-say-they-have-enjoyed-lockdown-new-poll-finds
A new poll by the Sunday Times finds that a “significant proportion of Brits” say they have enjoyed lockdown, with younger people more likely to say they liked COVID-19 restrictions.
They survey gave respondents a range of answers to measure their like or dislike for lockdown. Over 16 per cent in total said they liked or strongly liked lockdown.
The figures are even more alarming when it comes to young people. 20 per cent of 18-24 year olds said they liked or strongly liked the lockdown, while 22 per cent of 25-34 year olds said the same.
Are video games the new "elixir of the masses?"
Well, darts are very popular and the weather sucks.
Awesome. They can stay home forever.
Jane Coaston hates the phrase "the Black community."
I knew it. This whole time she's just Kmele Foster in drag. (And almost as pretty.)
She prefers when it is pronounced "the black communerty" or "we peeps".
"folx"
President Joe Biden is once again pushing rape myths.
Joe considers himself above average.
President Joe Biden is once again
pushing rape mythslying. Why is that so hard?Because Reason's mission is gaslighting for the Global Socialist Party establishment
So, your logic is that ENB went out of her way to mention Biden’s pushing myths so she could gaslight people by using slightly less accusatory than you, a Biden hater, would use. Like she wouldn’t just avoid the topic altogether.
I think his logic is that you're a shitty troll sockpuppet.
There’s a story here almost every day about him “misspeaking” or some other bs term. If he’s speaking, he’s either lying, or mumbling incoherently.
Lying is infrastructure
Nice.
It’s the regular morning CACLL whinefest.
"CACLL"
You're sure this time?
I can't wait for him to share his major achievement in coining that acronym over at Glibs lmfao
The White Knight
October.22.2020 at 3:18 pm
It means conservative and conservative-leaning libertarian, and I coined it.
Is there a law in Canada that ordinary people aren’t allowed to coin acronyms. Here in the godamn USA we have freedom of speech.
Weird you’re defending Biden lying.
Really? Logic much, R Mac?
You sure aren't condemning it as usual. Why is that so hard for you to do? Everyone you accused of being a trump cultist easily condemned his authoritarian acts such as the bump stock ban. Yet you can't do it even when it is this obvious.
Will you henceforth acknowledge I said something critical about Joe Biden?
Asking for a reward for not condemning something obvious is even worse on your part, you understand that, right?
You are literally worse than the definition you branded "trump cultists" with as they willingly stated where they disagreed. You don't. So if you think others were trump cultists, that makes you a Biden priest.
That's what you don't get, you have to be shamed into not proving you are lefty. And if you aren't, you just keep spouting leftist BS non stop. Just like Jeff, just like Sarcasmic, et al.
You have no issues calling others cultists even when they state their disagreements. You're pathetic.
Not a reward.
Acknowledgement. That is, not your usual habit of saying I'm lying when I say something critical about liberals, or your posting a lie-filled recap the next day mischaracterizing what I said.
Nice of you to admit that Jesse controls you.
R Mac
April.13.2021 at 9:55 am
There’s a story here almost every day about him “misspeaking” or some other bs term. If he’s speaking, he’s either lying, or mumbling incoherently.
In response:
The White Knight III: Army of Canuckness
April.13.2021 at 11:20 am
It’s the regular morning CACLL whinefest
Wish I knew what you were talking about, but the link is behind the WaPo firewall.
Following Utah's lead, Texas considers porn filter legislation.
Don't mess your screen in Texas.
I'll bet that those "lawmakers" have investments in Express VPN.
Say yes to this philosophy...
I would be thrilled if they followed both those points.
Corporations are not protected in the constitution.
Corporate personhood is a reason for their existence.
"One commonly-offered defense in cases of cops murdering people during routine traffic stops is that such stops can be incredibly dangerous for police officers."
Routine? WTF is routine? Is it when a person gets pulled over, sits quietly while the cop runs their ID, and then leaves with a warning or citation? Or is it when somebody with an outstanding warrant physically breaks away and then tries to escape?
The former. The latter is pretty rare.
Hence why it's not normal for a traffic stop.
https://twitter.com/antihero_kate/status/1381965179324354560?s=19
I think every average American should be forced to use Twitter one hour per day to see how fucking insane the leftist chattering class is.
I looked at the Twitter a couple of times. It’s a jumbled mess of stupid shit. I refuse to waste an hour there.
I did try it for a month. It was an awful experience. I can't understand why people subject themselves to it.
Nah. Their chattering doesn't hurt you in the real world. Don't listen. They hate that. Force them to come off Twitter and force a confrontation in the streets, then shoot them in their reproductive parts.
100 major corporations grouped together to push woke messaging. Mostly based off the loud 2% in Twitter and their shit victim studies HR departments.
Yes, Home Depot is dead to me now. In the past, I have spent thousands there. I'll go elsewhere.
Harbor Freight & Tool welcomes your business dollars
A great place to shop if you only want to spend a little on a tool that you are only going to use once or twice, and you don't mind that the tool will fall apart.
No shit. Their Allen/Star/SAE combo tools strip off pretty damn fast. It really puts better quality tools in sharp relief when you encounter them.
But if you need it in a pinch and not for more than a few times or don't give a shit they are convenient
Reddit is similer and i read it on occasion to see what they are thinking. Its crazy sometimes they make up stuff claiming republicans think "X" when no republican ever said it, and they all jump on it like flys to a turd its weird self confirmation of things that never happened, they are zombies of hatred without facts
Says the guy who posts several links to Twitter every day.
Um, actually, he's quoting the tweet.
Hahaha sarcasmic is so fucking stupid!
Um, you just reinforced my criticism of Nardz.
Um, IT WASN'T A CRITICISM OF NARDZ BECAUSE NARDZ DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING.
Please please try to keep up.
Whoosh! (Again)
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/guns-april-and-global-war
You and that author should go live in Putin's Russia. If war does start you traitor mfers should tread lightly.
You got your "Lord of Strudel" and "KillAllRednecksarebetterthanme" sockpuppets confused again screech
A 17 year old kid killed 2 of you and maimed another after being bashed in the head with a skateboard and despite 2 of the attackers being armed with guns. Whenever you want to come play let's fucking do it, bitch. I'm your motherfucking huckleberry.
Lord of Strazele
April.10.2021 at 10:29 am
I’m your Huckleberry mfer. Our great grandfathers took out the fascist trash and I’ll be happy to do it again.
Unmask your email, faggot, and you can have the chance to do so ASAP.
Are you self identifying as a fascist now? Real question.
Fuck off sarcasmic
Says the guy who applauds the state for shooting someone for trespassing. LOL.
What's a fascist?
You
no u
He's got a speech before the nation of Russia on the 24th, and another speech to (IIRC) the lower house of their legislative in early May. He was supposed to give that one last year, but Covid.
I'm guessing he's going to want to take the occasion to brag about the goodie he just gave mother Russia. I.e., at least turning the water back on for Crimea. Maybe even getting the band back together? I thought he was pissed at Lukashenko lately? Anyone checking to see if there's a similar build-up near Belarus?
I wonder where all the leftists are on the fact that this kid had committed a "gun crime"?
Why aren't they railing about how this kind of behavior is terrible?
Oh, I think I know.
State authorities and their bootlickers...
That is a lot of faux outrage over yet another shitty example of someone killed while resisting what appears to be an otherwise lawful arrest. There are so many good example of people killed while attempting to comply or even doing nothing at all that it makes me feel like this is just the latest episode of exploiting anti-racist sentiment to spark civil unrest.
Progressives want a race war and ENB is on board with driving the narrative.
It's hilarious when people like ENB, and the rest of the Reason staff, call other "bootlicker".
Psychotic levels of projection.
Says the guy who has licked Trump’s boots for four years.
Says the guy who licked the boots of the fucking "intelligence community" for 4 years and looked the other way on fabricating evidence in a warrant before a secret court in an attempt to get an election overturned.
Really? Can you cite where I have ever joined in on any discussion of “Russiagate”?
I’ll save you the trouble. You won’t find it.
do any of your socks count?
He's literally participated in hundreds of discussions of Russian collusion as a vociferous and full-throated conspiracy theorist on his multiple White Knight accounts in addition to his DoL and chemjeff socks. This being one of the more recent ones where he claimed that the Hunter Biden laptop data was Russian misinformation
Let's also not forget his clinging to the "Sicknick wuz beaten to death with a fire extinguisher" for 2 months after it was retracted by the NYT who originally published it based on "anonymous sources".
So, you are giving cites on topics unrelated to “Russiagate”. Got it.
LOL sarcasmic, this is your utter failing below. You can't even say biden told a lie above. hilarious.
Trying to evade arrest is not a crime punishable by summary execution.
Luckily he didn’t say it was.
Not only that, I specifically listed things that are even more reprehensible for having been punished with summary execution.
"There are so many good examples of people killed while attempting to comply or even doing nothing at all..."
Seems like Molly is a fallacious twat.
MollyGodiva is an ancient shreek sock. He busted it back out after the election with the rest of his old stable of socks. Dajjal, AddictionMyth, QueenAmalthea, et al
What is more dangerous, resisting arrest or not wearing a mask?
Who is more despicable? The masked resistor of a police officer or an unmasked bootlicker of said LEO (presumably wearing boots)?
You, sqrlscasmic. You're the more despicable person in any given comparison, up to and including Stalin, whom you worship, and Hitler, whom you despise.
Are you out of your skull? I am not either of them. I don't have the time or interest to get in slapfights with commenters here so I am not Dumb and I know how to spell Sturmbannfuhrer so I'm sure as fuck not Dumber
Summary execution? Have you ever seen an actual execution? This was a mistake by a poorly trained officer, not an execution, Corky. You are just being stupid, just like the woman that mistook her Glock for a taser. You are the type that pushes for equity then complains about the results.
Is this little ghetto darling at fault? He lived by the gun too. Stop coddling criminals. Hopefully, you encounter one of these little demons soon. He didn't amass his impressive criminal record by helping little old ladies across the street. In his two years as an adult, he has committed several serious crimes and has two warrants.
I could have sworn you though trespassing was a capital offense on jan 7th.
Well Bud, I am siding with the man that was charged to protect the Capital building. He was doing his duty. I would have shot her too. No question. You can't control a crowd of misfits by hurling harsh phrases at them. Once they attempted to breach that room, they caused him to react with the violence that he is allowed to use to stop them. Those tards were playing a game, he wasn't. Next time, those silly Larpers will listen when they are given a lawful order or they will bring the arms required.
Not only was no one given any orders by the officer who shot an unarmed woman in the face, but there was a 4-man SWAT team with M4 assault rifles standing less than 10 feet behind her you bootlicking piece of shit.
Well Idiot, before she tried to breach into the armed man's assigned post, "She should have armed herself".
Why didn't the Ultra Trumptards avenge her? Because they are gutless. They ran away as soon as one of them got shot. Was Donald Trump there to lead the charge? Nope. These people were duped, suckers, left to hold the bag. "High on da Trump rhetoric"
An assault on a defended building requires speed, surprise, and violence of action, Cupcake. These idiots announced their intentions days before on open forums. They were expected. If they pushed any further into that building, they would have been gunned down anyways. Thankfully, they only needed to see Ashley Whatsherface eat a bullet and they ran. Hardly stoic. Just posers. Like the "Special Ed" version of the Tea Party.
Like most dorks, they thought that their ideas were so popular that they could start an unarmed insurrection and overwhelm the building with numbers. Brilliant. Most of those people were military REMFs that overestimated their fighting skills gleened from their REMF clerk job in the military. Attending a war is nothing like fighting in one.
What did these Larpers achieve for the Republican party? Nothing. What was gained? Nothing. The Republican party lost support with this stupid "insurrection". They looked foolish and unhinged. Most people in their own party didn't support them, nor will they in the future.
Failure to obey = summary execution?
Are you saying that she didn't know that she was illegally breaching into the Capital building?Wrong. She was being stupid and thought that there would be no consequences. Well, she should know better. She was in the Air Force. The Air Force guards their equipment with armed men. Some of that equipment is so important, the sentries tasked with protecting that equipment can shoot you for crossing the painted red line on the ground. She, and her pack of misfits, should have known tat the Capital Police are deadly serious about protecting their post, which is much more important than any piece of equipment the military has.
So, raise a glass to Asshole Babbitt, her death will serve as a lesson for any other Larpers thinking of assaulting the Capital again.
7th? I know you are often not up on facts that are not discussed on right-won’t sites, but at least you could get the date right.
You'd think you of all people might want to tread lightly on nitpicking a typo when you spent a month and a half insisting a capitol cop was beaten to death with a fire extinguisher when it was known with absolute certainty that never happened within 48 hours of the NYT erroneously publishing it.
It wasn't discussed the next day?
He knows it did, why I used that date. He blamed fire extinguishers for weeks.
The discussions happened after Jan 6th dummy. My god man, stop saying stupid things.
Why havent we heard a peep from you on the deadly 4/2 attack?
Maybe because it was an attack by a lone, troubled person, not a mass riot set up at the behest of the sitting President of the United States.
No thats not it.
The argument asserted in the article is that Wright should not have been arrested at all. Chuck P.'s comment appears to addressing that, not defending the tragic errors the cops made afterwards.
Unlike trespassing, which you repeatedly said justified shooting an unarmed woman in the face despite a 4-man SWAT team with M4 assault rifles standing less than 10 feet behind her.
That traitor was doing much more then trespassing and you know it. Had she not been shot she would have had direct access to Members of Congress.
You are not allowed direct access without going through a lobbyist.
And done all the nasty things to them that all the people that weren’t shot did?
Thank you. It's gratifying when I bait you into admitting what a statist piece of shit you are on a daily basis since you can't help yourself from indulging in your psychotic revolutionary Marxist bugaboos.
Those were SWAT guys right? You keep repeating it as if you know exactly who they were. Were they Capital Police assigned to stop entry into the building? No, asshole, they were not. Like most people there that day, they did not know what to do. At least the man with the gun knew what to do. He only had to shoot one, that is about as good as it was going to get for those stupid people. Trust me, there was more armed men waiting and the further those idiots pushed into the building, the harsher the response was going to be.
We already know your family were Klan members Chuck.
You can put the dog whistle away and just say how you really feel.
After all you belong to a bigoted, racist church.
Communist China is rehearsing the invasion Taiwan. Those Communists do not fear or respect the USA. POTUS Biden said or did nothing while those assholes came to our shores and parroted the same Progressive criticisms (completely illegitimate) to our SecState (who just sat there like a fucking dummy and took it).
When Red China invades Taiwan, will we stand by our ally?
No. Taiwanese dissidents couldn't be marginalized last year when they were shown alongside pictures of Antifa rioters. Now they can be painted as domestic terrorists and shown alongside the Capitol protesters. China will be allowed to continue the pogroms because we will be busy with our own.
Why not? We stood by while China gobbled up Hong Kong.
They're not invading Taiwan. They don't need to. AIUI, give Taiwan 10-20 years, and their younger generation will be asking to hook-up with the PRC.
Taiwan doesn't solve their problems anyway. Not enough arable land, not enough surplus women. Plus, invading Taiwan very likely kills the golden goose of TSMC, plus might cause the depopulation of the Yangtze River Valley. Closer ties to the Phillipines and/or Vietnam, OTOH, helps both.
So if the Chinese do invade, do we just bomb the hell out of their fabs to prevent the PRC from acquiring them? It's clear that we don't plan on actually engaging the PLA.
I'm guessing if the PRC does invade Taiwan, TSMC's going to fall under collateral damage. Cue Sean Connery quote on things in here not reacting well to bullets. It could always be seized via some sort of special op, I guess. Risky.
Doesn't prevent the ROC from destroying the Three Gorges either. I would, in the ROC leadership's shoes, wouldn't you?
Oh, and the US with this leadership isn't going to do a damned thing Xi doesn't want them to do. Stern letters, and that's about it.
We already broke our agreements with Taiwan when we acknowledged the CCP as the official government of China and then proceeded to make ourselves dependent on them for production and give them MFN trading status. We ran out on Taiwan 3 generations ago, and with Joe Biden at the helm we will not only not lift a finger to assist Taiwan, but will probably contribute military support to China.
It does damage to the cause of actual anti-racism to try to hook all your favored policies onto it.
I think that ship sailed once everything started getting labeled white supremacy.
Burning and looting cities hardly helps their cause. Why would anyone embrace diversity after seeing what it does to US cities? The only businesses that benefit are plywood suppliers and UHaul.
https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1381966368040484864?s=19
"Protesters" who are "emotionally distraught" over the death of a black man decided to "strive for racial justice" by burning down a local Dollar Tree where poor people in the community went to buy household goods and groceries.
Makes a lot of sense.
That Dollar Tree will have to be rebuilt and restocked eventually. Think of the (racially-just) JOBS!!
It is pretty standard. They must have already emptied the Footlocker and burned the Wendy's and CVS. Those stores should glue condoms, job applications, and work boots to their exteriors, it may keep the denizens of the ghetto repelled.
As usual, the libraries are never touched. Libraries are like Kryptonite to these creatures.
Why would it surprise anyone? After half a year of Democrats championing white mobs burning down black neighborhoods and murdering black children, why is it surprising that those mobs are now emboldened to continue their racist terror campaign?
Like Ted Wheeler found out last summer, you can't control the Red Guard.
https://twitter.com/DineshDSouza/status/1381966526811545606?s=19
Why do we know the name of the cop who killed #DuanteWright but not the name of the cop who killed #AshliBabbitt?
Different jurisdictional rules?
That has to be it.
Because nobody cares about that stupid, over-entitled Air Force idiot? Perhaps, if during her time in the military, she was held to a standard of discipline, she would have been more disciplined when se got out. She wasn't. In the modern military, woman have the power to cancel any male, regardless of rank. They are feared. They can end your career for disagreeing with them. Their allegations, false or not, are held "above all". She was coddled and never told to shut her man-pleaser. She really thought that the guy with the gun would not shoot her because nobody has told her "no" in a long time. She was nothing but stupid spoiled child.
Too bad she can't accuse someone of murdering her.
Well, you are here to claim murder. She got what she asked for. She is a Trump inspired Martyr. Did Trump attend her funeral?
Yep. Dumb uppity bitch. Got what she asked for. I guess that uppity criminal nigger who resisted arrest got what he asked for too. And you will too.
Is that so? I did seven tours for this country you silly cunt. I'll probably survive a little longer. I am a deadly human being and would think nothing of strangling you just to watch your eyes roll round. You are nothing.
Lmfao. Name the time and date tough guy. Not a joke. Anywhere in America. I've offered you this chance on more than one of your socks you little pussy bitch.
I genuinely hope that some day, some how, I get the chance to personally blow your fucking dome off you pathetic piece of bootlicking shit. Better watch where the fuck you put your feet. Trespass is a serious crime.
Whew, an internet threat. I'm terrified, Cupcake. Come get some. Hopefully, you aren't new to killing people in the real world, Girlfriend. I'll just add your name to my list of "Bootshiners" that will be my slaves in Valhalla. You had better learn Arabic if you wish to get along with all the other "Bootshiners" that I have sent on. Come get some, I haven't killed anyone lately but I certainly haven't forgotten how. Will you be wearing red, white, and blue like those Capital Larpers that you think so highly of?
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha why not just post the Navy SEAL copypasta you pathetic piece of shit pussy bitch?
If you really "want some" name the place motherfucker. Not a joke. Never has been. Will you be cowering like a pussy bitch behind a potted plant like the Capitol murderer you think so highly of? I sure hope so. Unlike that murderous piece of shit pussy bitch, you won't be sneaking up on somebody who isn't armed. I wonder if the murderous pussy bitch you worship will show up to your funeral?
why do we need armed authorities to enforce traffic violations anyway?
Oh, that's easy. To protect the public safety.
Not enough people have toured the ghetto. They have enjoyed public safety their entire lives and have no clue as to how dangerous life is in US ghettos. They claim to embrace diversity because they have never had to live with it. They go to Saks, not the Dollar Store.
Oh you've lived in the ghetto too huh? Was that before or after your 200 tours of duty with over 9,000 confirmed kills you pathetic pussy bitch?
Why do we have armed authorities at all if they're not to enforce laws? Are they just there to collect taxes? In which case, isn't enforcing traffic violations exactly what they should be doing instead of enforcing mask mandates?
Comparison of the search term from "riots today" between duckduckgo and Google.
https://mobile.twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1381801560498388998/photo/1
That is, um, educational.
Much like the shooting in Boulder. All gone! Didn't happen.
I just tried that. Eye opening. I just set DuckDuckGo to my new default search engine in Chrome.
Now delete Chrome and start using Brave.
Or just download the DuckDuckGo app and use that as your browser.
Weird. I pretty much got the opposite results.
Maybe google is giving you what you've been looking more at lately?
Note to jeff, WK, Brandybuck, and the other civilized people in this wasteland of stupdity: Glibs.
Let the trolls keep this cesspool and go to the Glibs.
None of the uncivilized asshats who rule these comments would last a day before getting the banhammer.
Come join the libertarian echo chamber. It's better than being a punching bag.
You didn't invite SQLFKR? Damn, you proggies still have a thing against the mentally defective after all that guy has done to defend you. It just plain mean.
And Zeb even vouched that you were not socking as KillMeRednecks.
Oh, well, good luck!
Tulpa brags about using socks. He brags about deceiving people. Yet when myself and others complain about him using socks to deceive people you assume he's telling the truth and I'm the sock master.
That's willful stupidity on your part.
As far as squirrelly goes, he can fuck himself.
As can you.
Gibertarians. Civilized libertarians welcome. That doesn't include you.
Pretend that you are libertarian some more. It's funny.
Jeffy thinks that breathing is a violation of the NAP and you defend him as libertarian and call him civilized.
WK wrote:
The White Knight II: The White Knight Rises!
February.11.2021 at 9:24 pm
I don’t believe rights are natural.
and you defend as libertarian and call him civilized.
You are more than welcome to take your proggie circle jerk somewhere else. It really shouldn't be a libertarian site, because it is unethical to claim to be something when it is so easily disproven, but as long as it is not here, have fun.
I admit it must be confusing for you. You think that posts by WK, jeff, me, squirrel, and and others are all the same person. And when these posts conflict your brain hurts. You can't even wrap your brain around the ideal that these are all different people, and they're not totally serious all the time. In your confusion you lash out with insults and death threats. (You said you'd kill me me we went shooting together, based upon your belief that I'm ten people on this forum).
WK and chemjeff (who are actually the same person who originally used the handle "cytotoxic" which would be a recognizable name for you if you weren't an alcoholic piece of shit) have both called for murdering Trump supporters, praised the shooting of an unarmed woman for trespassing, praised race riots, praised wanton violence and destruction of property, and expressed support for censorship and suppression of speech. It's going to be fucking awesome watching you pull that idiotic shit at Glibs where you think you're in a cocoon of radical leftists. You should have lurked there for more than an hour.
And you outed your sqrsly sock multiple times. Try not getting shitfaced drunk by 8 AM every day and you might actually be able to properly handle hop.
Wrong on every count, but nice diatribe.
Man it's so weird how you and WK and Jeff and SQRLSY all show up at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME.
Oh no! People show up at the same time! That means they're all the same person! Brilliant!
Man it’s so weird how you and WK and Jeff and Zeb and SQRLSY all show up at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME.
Welcome back, sarcasmic! Give 'em Hell, Harry!
Ahahahah got you!
"Welcome back, sarcasmic! Give ’em Hell, Harry!"
I ain't back. I'm passing through asking the few civilized libertarians on these pathetic comments to join the Glibs.
And now I'm done.
aahahahahaj!!
Man it’s so weird how you and WK and Jeff and Zeb and SQRLSY all show up at EXACTLY THE SAME TIME
I'm amazed the Glibs tolerate your drunken, whiny ass, sarcasmic.
They don't.
Welcome back, sarcasmic! Give ’em Hell, Harry!
LOL, as if the shit-muncher wouldn't be instabanned by the Glibs the minute he posted one his Dumbfuck Hihnsano-style copypastas.
Using stupid terms like "copypasta" makes you look foolish!
Pussy ass little traitor boy
no u
"EXACTLY THE SAME TIME"
I think you need to learn how to read timestamps a bit better.
No. He is actually correct. You pretend to be sanctimonious when you aren't. You and those you listed in your OP are some of the biggest trolls here. You again lie about who you are.
I don't lie and I don't sock.
But you can't believe that because it would shatter your entire view of the world! Sarc is ten people! There can't be different people who believe similar things! They must be the same person! Especially since Tulpa who brags about impersonating people and running socks says he didn't impersonate people or run socks, it was all sarcasmic!
You're a moron.
"I don’t lie"
You lied about telling Tulpa he was more well read than you. And you'll either lie about it now or be forced to admit that you do in fact lie.
Because you're fucking stupid. And you lied about sockpuppeting too.
You lie constantly.
"Nuh uh!"
I have to hand it to you that's by far the most intellectually stimulating counter-argument you've ever made on here.
I see how you didnt refute his claims regarding Jeff and wk. Those you call libertarians. That's your team. Full of lefties.
He's going to last about 48 hours at Glibs before he gets banned. Glibs is nothing but the type of people sqrlsasmic has spent the entire last 4 years 12-16 hours a day calling Trumpista Mean Girls between bouts of the DTs and fucking his underage daughter. They banned Ken Shultz and John for being too assholish. The first time tardcasmic regurgitates up a snippet from Democratic Underground, backs it up with a link to Salon, and then insists anyone who disagrees is a Republican Mean Girl who is out to get him he's going to get shitcanned and the melodramatic bitchfest that ensues when he comes back with 30 socks is going to be so fucking funny I might just double their monthly traffic by stopping by to watch the trainwreck.
Do I owe you money for the time spent in your head?
Lmfao. The rent free retort works a lot better if you don't have a literal enemies list on a shitty blogspot site and spend 12 hours a day whinging about how you're being persecuted by Mean Girls.
His very first post is complaining about the people here he hates. Drunk on the internet is no way to go through life.
"Do I owe you money for the time spent in your head?"
You made a sockpuppet that touts how much Tulpa owned you and thought it was clever.
Looks like your head is a mexican housing project.
Wow, what a fact-filled, scientific-minded post!
Fuck off sarcasmic
Maybe stop by glibertarians and we can have a civil discussion about why I don't think there is any such thing as "natural" rights. It's not like I said I don't believe there is any such thing as rights.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA you forgot to switch back to your sarcasmic sock again.
"It's OK, I believe in rights, I just believe that they are privileges granted by government."
Yeah we know. We've been beating you, Tony and shreek to a pulp over your blind amoral authoritarianism for more than a decade.
And, by the way, you bookmark things I say to use against me two months later. That's quite the dedication to arguing with someone you don't like on a website you don't like.
you bookmark things I say to use against me two months later
Just that one. Most of the shit you spew is not worthy of repetition other than to mock you in the thread you post it. This was such a gem it deserved to be preserved for posterity.
You and the crew of lefty libertarian poseurs obscure actual discussions about freedom and are only funny in parody. I don't give you a second thought.
You're not a libertarian.
You're a fascist Mormon welfare queen.
Poor sarcasmic. Notice how he started the whole "everybody is a welfare queen" shtick on this sock after I kept pointing out that he's a self-confessed welfare leech who would be homeless if not for government housing?
Hey remember when you forgot to log out of your Sqrsly sock because you were drunk off your fucking ass as usual and posted literally the exact same copypasta in two different places under different accounts, then did it again about an hour later after you got called on it?
Maybe if you don't want to get treated like a lying piece of shit you should stop being a lying piece of shit.
I've never posted as anyone other than sarcasmic. Believe what you want to believe, but that's the truth. Tulpa has posted as ' sarcasmic' and said nasty shit in my name, but I've never ran any socks or impersonated anyone.
That's the truth. Not that you care.
No, that's not the truth you lying piece of shit. You got busted. In public. And since you're a pathetic bitch and a sorry excuse for a man and a human being you won't even buck up and admit it and go for the sorry fucking "I was hacked!" excuse like a 12 year old kid whose mom walked in on him jacking off to tranny porn.
This is why you have a criminal record, a failed marriage, and spent most of your life homeless: all by your own admission. Because you're a lying sack of shit and a pathetic bitch who blames others for everything.
Tulpa admits what he does. You lie about it.
Admits? He brags. He's even bragged about socking me and jeff and others on the weekends.
Yet when people accuse him of doing what he brags about, you believe he's the honest one.
I hope you're happy with this pile of shit you've created.
And White Knight bragged about stealing my handle to teach a moral lesson. Is that what civilized behavior looks like over at glibs?
I wasn't aware of that. And no I doubt it would be tolerated.
You should try the Glibs. I'd be interested to see how many comments it takes for you to get kicked off. Being that you've never said anything of substance, and only talk shit about people, I'd give you an hour.
no space there either
So you want me to join just to get kicked off? Very civilized of you.
I don’t believe I’ve ever met anyone who so easily shifts from victim to aggressor and back again, sometimes in the same sentence.
Standing by and watching you get the boot for being an insulting asshole is being the aggressor?
That's new.
Encouraging me to go there is standing by now?
What a weird fantasy you’ve created sarc.
I'm encouraging you to go there because it might bring out a civilized part of you that's been hiding way down deep. That's my fantasy. That you act like a man instead of a child.
You're the one who thinks such a fantasy equals aggression,
God you keep running your bitch mouth.
Put up the fucking money and take your shot drunk.
The Glibs have one rule: No Tulpas.
Aye pobrecito!
Blah blah blah all you have is words because you're a coward
PS I'm on Glibs already
So you are a coward and I'm smarter than you
So we’re you lying when you said you want me to go there because you want to see me get kicked off, or were you lying when you said you want me to go there because it might bring out the civilized part of me?
"PS I’m on Glibs already"
So am I. Say "Hi" to one of my comments. Oh, you can't. Because you're full of shit.
"So we’re you lying when you said you want me to go there because you want to see me get kicked off, or were you lying when you said you want me to go there because it might bring out the civilized part of me?"
If you really think that's some sort of "gotcha" and you troll people based upon things like that, then I really feel sorry for you. That's pathetic. You must be an incredible boor in person, picking on every little inconsistency.
You're right at home here in the Reason comments, for the same reason I'm gone.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts and make this shit happen you pussy.
The comments are clearly contradictory. You being a liar doesn’t make me boring.
They have a lengthy list of rules actually. And considering you just fucked up yet again and replied to a post directed to your sarcasmic handle with your White Knight handle how long do you think you're going to last at a yokeltarian site when you bring over the rest of your socks to DESTROY conservatards with FACTS and LOGIC from Salon.com? Lol.
Isn't sarcasmic big hearted? He feels sorry for the people who catch him out in contradictory statements and make him look like a total and complete cock. That's why he doesn't post on Reason.com anymore, other than his 90 posts obsessively replying to every person in this thread who appears on the enemies list of sqrsly, who totally isn't his sock puppet.
Yup, I did. It wasn't to teach you a moral lesson. It was to try to get more people than just me and sarcasmic to contact Reason IT and try to get spoofing problems fixed.
It didn't work. Reason IT doesn't fix anything or spend any time improving or moderating this site.
This site sucks. Let the trolls have it.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts and make this shit happen pussy.
You told me it was to teach me a lesson as well, liar.
I agree with this post!
Please, lefty shit, take your own advice; fuck off.
Can you provide even one bit of truth or fact that backs up the assertion that I'm leftist?
Yeah, didn't think so.
sarcasmic
April.13.2021 at 10:01 am
Note to jeff, WK, Brandybuck, and the other civilized people
The White Knight II: The White Knight Rises!
February.11.2021 at 9:24 pm
I don’t believe rights are natural.
Don't let the door hit you in the ass, lefty.
What does that WK said have anything to do with what I said? And why are you cherry picking some comment like you discovered gold?
What does that WK said have anything to do with what I said?
The thing about lacking intelligence is that you really can't help but prove it.
I don’t believe rights are natural, is not just an affront to libertarianism, it is a disavowal of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. It is not even 'cherry-picked' as you falsely claim. It was a standalone, unsolicited comment. And it is the revelation at the core of all the things that you and WK and jeffy and your lefty buddies agree on.
I have read enough of your bullshit to know that you would been right at home with the Jacobins, the original left wing. They claimed they were libertarian as well.
And it is the revelation at the core of all the things that you and WK and jeffy and your lefty buddies agree on.
He says something and that means everyone who disagrees with you believes it?
You're beyond help.
You just showed up out of the blue and praised Dee for being a true libertarian.
The fact that she doesn’t think rights are natural refutes that.
I find it very interesting that you didn’t include someone like Zeb instead.
I don't even know who this Dee is. And I don't care.
Point is that the Glibs are civilized, while this place is a schoolyard run by bullies.
Being that you're one of the bullies and proud of it, I know you won't be going anywhere.
no space there either
Liar. I’ve been calling White Knight Dee for a long time now.
Nobody believes you don’t know who I’m talking about, not even Dee.
Hmm. He refused to engage about Zeb again. The guy who he goes shooting with and who vouched that he wasn't the KAR troll.
Or are we not supposed to remember that?
"Liar. I’ve been calling White Knight Dee for a long time now."
Oh yes, I've been hanging on all your comments and keeping track of who you call what, so I must be a liar for saying I wasn't paying attention to the pet names you give to people!
Fucking fuck you're a loser.
I looked really hard but I don't see any space there before "sarcasmic"
And I thought you said you were leaving? I guess that means he got you and you had to come back.
So you know the motivation for everything I post, and that I don’t post anything of substance, but don’t read my posts?
Keep flailing sarc, it brings me joy.
Or Echospinner, Square, Mongo, etc...
Nope, just solidarity with some of the biggest piece of shit trolls on this site. If that's who you want to associate with, have at it.
Just do it away from here.
Frankly, I don't care about the personal shit but the attempted siphoning away of traffic because he has beef is kind of pathetic.
Frankly, I don’t care about the personal shit but the attempted siphoning away of traffic because he has beef is kind of pathetic.
Note that NONE of the glibs commenters have dropped in here to say, "Hey, this comment section is a shitshow, if you want a decent community, come to our place!" The only time I've seen any of them pop in since the site went up, it's to shit on Reason.
That community is exclusive and tight-knit for a reason, and here sarc is begging the very guys who wouldn't fit in there at all to start commenting. How long does he think it would take before WK and chem got shat on for their pedantic, passive-aggressive, lefty-boo simpery?
I'm pleased to be left out of this shit show, thanks.
They're saying you're me because you said someone wasn't me. Best to not mention me at all lest you invite the wrath of the trolls.
That’s not what I’m saying. I’m noting that you invited the real, civilized libertarians like Dee and Jeff, but not Zeb. It’s a noteworthy distinction when calling out trolls.
Which is weird because if I was just trying to fit in, I’d just say he’s your sock.
"That’s not what I’m saying. I’m noting that you invited the real, civilized libertarians like Dee and Jeff, but not Zeb."
LMAO! If you only knew...
Zeb knows more about the Glibs than I do. No need to invite.
You're Zeb. We've known it forever.
You pathetic little fucking coward.
>>> If you only knew…
we do Zeb
He says something and that means everyone who disagrees with you believes it?
You’re beyond help.
Right there, fucko. That is gaslighting. I never said that.
It is not a leap to assume you agree with someone you regularly defend and you just invited go storm out with you in solidarity. Now, here you are deflecting, arguing around the statement while never actually refuting it.
You don't have a strong grasp of logic and revert to ad hominem when you fail to make a point. Another trait you share with your aforementioned buddies.
"And it is the revelation at the core of all the things that you and WK and jeffy and your lefty buddies agree on."
That sentence says that myself and others all agree with whatever that revelation was, in this case something about natural rights or whatever.
Just so you know, the ranges I go to have cameras, so if you murder me there there will be video.
God you're a sad cowardly little piece of nothing. You did the same shit he's doing and then ran when it got real.
That sentence says that myself and others all agree with whatever that revelation was, in this case something about natural rights or whatever.
Bullshit.
You are, to this moment, defending the guy that said he doesn't believe in natural rights. That says something about what you believe. You have yet to refute the statement. That says something about what you believe.
Instead of engaging in honest argument, you deflect, condescending to characterize what I proposed was a disavowal of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as "something about natural rights or whatever". That says something about your integrity.
You are a sophist lefty engaged in gaslighting libertarians who agree with the founders of our nation that men are endowed with inalienable rights.
The bullshit about a murder threat is a gaslighter special.
You have rid me of doubt. Now I am certain I am the one that wouldn't come back. You are fucking evil.
"You are, to this moment, defending the guy that said he doesn’t believe in natural rights."
I wasn't part of that conversation.
"Instead of engaging in honest argument, you deflect, condescending to characterize what I proposed was a disavowal of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution as “something about natural rights or whatever”. That says something about your integrity."
I did all that? Really?
"Now I am certain I am the one that wouldn’t come back. You are fucking evil."
You want to kill me because I wouldn't engage in an argument I was not part of.
You openly admit you want to kill me.
Over not engaging in come argument over natural rights.
That's worthy of murder.
No wonder this is the first time I've commented in weeks. And the last for a long while.
Not engaging in an argument upsets people to the point where they literally want me dead.
I did all that? Really?
Holy shit, gaslighter, I directly quoted you. You didn't engage my argument. That is the definition of deflecting. Adding "or whatever" to my words meets every definition of condescending.
You openly admit you want to kill me.
Over not engaging in come argument over natural rights.
That’s worthy of murder.
I made a snarky comment to someone else weeks ago that you are now representing in a manner bordering on hysteria as a legitimate threat made in context of today's discussion.
It is very difficult to gaslight when the full record is on open display. But thank you for the perfect demonstration that your only purpose for posting is to seek attention.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Those hundreds of posts he's made in the last few weeks were all Tulpa spoofing his account with a unicode space that isn't there in any of the posts. Yet again.
You called anyone who didn't trash trump 24/7 a trump cultist for 3 years. You often entered threads with unrelated hyperbolic strawman arguments of what you thought conservatives were saying. Youre a leftist fuck.
Lmfao. Just FYI every other leftist shithead like you that ran to Glibs has been banned or left after bleating about how unfair the world is because there's too many "yokeltarians" who don't share their obsession with Trump and fondness for Marxist politics. Most of the founders, who were actual libertarians rather than leftists shills like you, don't even go there anymore because it turned into a right-libertarian echo chamber. When you pull the idiotic shit you pull here on a daily basis where you regurgitate nothing but radical left wing talking points you copped from Mother Jones, Daily Kos, Democratic Underground and Salon you're going to get the shit kicked out of you just as badly as you do here, except that when you retaliate by starting 10 sockpuppet accounts and posting 700-word copypasta with a link to your enemies list on your blogspot account over there you're going to get banned.
Oh and you're still not a victim you drunken child molesting piece of shit. You're a punching bag because you're unbelievably stupid and incapable of substantiating the arguments you copy from the radical left wing opinion sites you frequent. If you think it's going to be better at Glibs holy fucking shit are you in for a surprise. By all means please take all of cytotoxic's "civilized" sockpuppets calling for Apache gunship attacks on Trump supporters, gleefully celebrating a black cop shooting an unarmed white woman in the face, and flogging discredited lies about fire extinguisher murders with you. I might start hanging out over there again just to watch you get your asshole bored out like an oil well by a whole new group of people who hate your fucking guts.
Did you practice that?
None of it is accurate by the way. But still, I'm flattered. That you'd make all that stuff up to counter things I've never said or done. So sweet.
Sorry, but I don't feel the same way. Never thought about you before. Never will again.
Poor sarc, you clearly missed all this attention and had to come back just to get some.
You don’t think Jeff, Dee, and Brandybook didn’t already know glib existed?
I don't actually think of you as a dick. More like a loser who goes along to be popular.
Try the Glibs. Try being civilized. You might like it.
Classic sarc. Says I’m not a dick, I just act like one because I’m a loser, then tells me to try being civilized.
Have you ever stopped to consider posts like this means you’re the dick?
No space there either.
Lol. Yeah you're one cool operator sqrscasmic. We know you never think about the wild pack of uncivilized Mean Girls who constantly victimize you.
"Never thought about you before."
That was amazing.
Sure was. He took that strawman down with a flourish! Never mind that it doesn't describe me at all, it feels good! Fuck yeah!
The irony is that you hate leftists soooo much, and leftist can't be reasoned out of what they feel.
Yet you feel that I'm whatever some asshat says I am, and if I provided certified documentation proving otherwise you'd still believe what you feel.
You're pathetic. No better than the leftists you hate.
“certified documentation”
Lol.
Go back to some of the nasty things I supposedly said and highlight the name. You'll find a space in it. ' sarcasmic'
Thing is, you wouldn't care. You'd rather pile on with the cool kids so you can be accepted. You're a loser.
Calling people losers works better if you haven't spilled your guts in multiple drunk-posting rampages about your persistent issues with alcoholism, your criminal record, homelessness, and failed marriage
"Go back to some of the nasty things I supposedly said and highlight the name. You’ll find a space in it. ‘ sarcasmic’"
Nope. No space.
Like right here where you call me a loser?
THERE'S A SPACE!!! AN INVISIBLE SPACE!!! THAT'S THE TICKET!!!
AND HO2 WASN'T HIM EITHER!!! SPAAAAACE!!! IT'LL WORK FOR SURE!!!
You’d rather pile on with the cool kids
This isn't high school. I am not chastising you to impress anyone.
This is eerily reminiscent of the last time I interacted with KillAllRednecks. I am getting the same super-creepy vibe of a need for validation. Without the threats of rape and murder, of course.
You're the one threatening murder. Not KAR.
And you're rhe one making threats then hiding like a fucking bitch when you get your opportunity.
You’re the one threatening murder. Not KAR.
KAR said he'd stab Chuck in the left temple and string up him and his family.
Is this sudden migration over to the glibs have anything to do with KAR posting the other day that he wasn't going to do that stuff anymore and apologizing?
This may come as a surprise, but I haven't been keeping track of what KAR said. However when someone says they'd kill me if we were left alone, I take notice.
when someone says they’d kill me if we were left alone
You can say it a million times, fucktard, that won't summon the Blue Fairy to make it true.
This may come as a surprise, but I haven’t been keeping track of what KAR said.
Considering the KAR posts don't deviate from their primary content, that protestation is a bit rich.
I didn't apologize to you shitstain.
Give me your REAL ADDRESS TRAITOR!
3400 Albion Street
Denver CO
Now unmask your email like you promised, you hicklib faggot. Or just let me know the date and time when you plan to show up. Either way, here's yet another prime opportunity to do things you said you were going to do.
Traitor
You have a big mouth for a scared little boy who won't post his real address.
You don't live there.
Bugchaser.
You have a big mouth for a hicklib faggot who won't unmask his email.
Come by the address and find out.
Oh look sarcasmic's other tough guy sock just pussied out like a pathetic little bitch when presented with an opportunity to follow up on his death threats.
To be fair I have said to Chuck that I would kill him several times.
I don't consider mormons people so it's fine.
To be fair to sarcasmic he has spent a lot of time in and out of court-ordered rehabilitation facilities by his own admission, so certified documentation is very important to him.
I would post lol, because I thought this was funny, but then I’d be a loser just trying to fit in. Because that’s what having a sense of humor means.
lol
I don't care if a self-conscious drunk wife-abuser thinks I'm a loser.
Yet you feel that I’m whatever some asshat says I am
You wrote a while back that you didn't take anything seriously and mocked both sides equally, especially the side in power. The only evidence (your own posts), demonstrate no such thing. Now you want to be taken seriously as you dramatically stalk out of the room, a spurned defender of libertarianism?
Can you not identify the fucking poseur in this scenario?
You’re pathetic. No better than the leftists you hate.
You write things because you think they sound dramatic, but they ring hollow when they lack all substance. When have I ever advocated that anyone was a traitor, or guilty of sedition? Said that someone deserved to die? Or shit my pants all over their posts in hopes that no one will respond. Never, asshole, because I am not like them.
Go gaslight some community college chicks, that shit works on them.
When have I ever advocated that anyone was a traitor, or guilty of sedition? Said that someone deserved to die?
When have I? Oh, I haven't. Perhaps one of the many handles you believe I run said such a thing, but I never did. You're ready to commit murder over lies an innuendo. You need to check yourself. Seriously.
When have I? Oh, I haven’t.
When did I say you did? What the fuck is wrong with you? Non-sequitur is a fallacy, dipshit.
People tend to remember when someone says they'd kill them and leave their body in the woods after target shooting.
That's pretty serious there, Chuck.
Doesn't matter that I wasn't part of the conversation. I was the subject of the conversation.
I recall you saying something similar about meeting you and Sparkly.
Then I gave you a chance and you turned punk.
The Ministry concert is still on. Postponed again. This time to 10/04/2021. House of Blues in Boston.
I'd love to see you there.
I don't want to date you pussy.
You heard the terms. We can all see you making excuses.
But I know you won't be there. You're all sock, no balls.
Because when I say to a guy friend "Let's go see Ministry!" it's a romantic date.
Sure dood.
Stay home.
Coward.
You heard the terms. We can still see you making excuses.
Terms? Like I pay you ten thousand dollars? Haaa ha ha ha ha!
Coward. Pussy. Afraid to show your face to the people you antagonized daily. Your chance is right here. October. The fourth. Of this year. House of Blues. Boston.
I'll be there.
Blah blah blah you got your shot and now you're punking.
And everyone can see it.
Terms. Or keep making excuses.
"Like I pay you ten thousand dollars? Haaa ha ha ha ha!"
I thought the same thing there's no way you have 10k.
You know where I'll be and when I'll be there.
Yes, I know you'll be making excuses and hiding.
I don't want a dare bitch. I'm not interested in shitty bands.
You want something but are too much of a bitch to actually follow through and make it happen.
And now you're desperately trying to find a way out.
no one is buying the "come to boston and see me or you're a coward" shit sarcasmic we can all see you bit off more that you can chew
He got what he wanted and suddenly it's about bands.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Coward. You know when and where. If you want to show your face I'll be there.
We get it when offered an opportunity to look me in the eye, you suddenly need a crowd to hide in.
god damn! he's talking you apart sarcasmic
This is amazing. Sarcasm is is so desperate to shift the narrative that he is actually expecting people to think that he isn't cringing in fear because he over-stepped, and that someone can actually show up in Boston and track him down at a concert woth thousands of people.
This is the most amazingly bitch thing I have ever seen. He knows there's no chance Tulpa can find him, so he feels safe running his mouth.
What else can he do? He got what he wanted then tried to walk it back and find a way out. He knows every time he posts all he'll get from now on is "remember when you tried to fight Tulpa like you're a violent sociopath, and then when he accepted you spent hours trying to turn it into a date?"
sarcasmic "I want to break your nose Tulpa"
Tulpa "ok here are my terms"
sarcasmic "no I want you to come to me, on my terms, in a place where only very surface level violence can happen before it gets shut down"
the audience "sarcasmic thinks we're buying this? fight him like you said you want to"
Why don't you all show up? I'll make myself available on sidewalk. You can gang up on me for real. Beat on me like a cop getting his frustrations out on a homeless person. It's what makes your schoolgirls feel giddy. Being mean makes you happey. Do it for real. I'm going to the show. I'll be there.
You need a crowd to hide in you already cried that a dozen times bitch. We get it.
You're afraid to look me in the eye one on one.
what is your weird fixation on getting people to show up at this concert? for real it's so dubious fight the man you little pussy stop playing games nobody cares about your dumb little setup just follow through on your weak ass threats
It IS weird isn't it? "On the sidewalk" with 1000 other random motherfuckers. Hiding like a bitch. Or waiting with his people to jump me when I'm trying to smell him because I showed up and he shit his pants.
Because he needs crowds to make this violence work.
Poor sarc. Shows up after being gone for weeks and just gets embarrassed like this. Brutal.
Blah blah blah all you are is fucking bitch words.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts and make this shit happen pussy.
I will laugh if this is a guerilla marketing campaign for Ministry's tour
Doesn’t matter that I wasn’t part of the conversation.
Your stupid is showing. That is actually a requirement for something to legally be considered a threat. But since it wasn't even a threat, that is moot.
You said that if we went shooting, only you would come back.
That's saying you would murder me if give the opportunity.
Over comments on an online forum.
Wow.
Didn't you say you'd end up in jail if Tulpa had accepted tour date invitation?
Over comments on an online forum.
Wow.
He did. Now let's see if he lies about it.
Yes Tulpa, I'd cheerfully go to jail for breaking your nose because you deserve it ten times over. Which is exactly the same as Chuck saying he'd be the only one going home if we went target shooting.
"I’d cheerfully go to jail for breaking your nose"
Over comments on an online forum.
Wow
Wow, that's the same as murder!
Fuck off Tulpa.
“I’d cheerfully go to jail for breaking your nose”
Over comments on an online forum.
Wow
Aggravated Battery over online comments? AOK for sarcasmic.
Assault doesn’t violate the NAP according to true libertarians like sarc.
He got his chance. You saw the excuses he suddenly had.
I’m guessing he had to change his underwear.
Make it worth my while and we can set it up.
10k plus travel expenses?
Keep in mind, I'm not your wife so you won't just get free shots.
I'm surprised you could comment as Tulpa while running Voture, Pike, Haribaldrian and Ginette Stealey.
Must be confusing. I wouldn't know.
Money>>>>>>your mouth
Words are over. You got terms. Take em or keep cowering.
Words are over. You got terms. Take em or keep cowering.
If not spending ten thousand dollars on you getting a vacation equals cowering, then I'm in a fetal position in the corner.
Yes we can see that.
We all knew you were just talk.
Damn sarc, this is more embarrassing than when he turned you down for a date in the first place.
He just tried to date me AGAIN.
"I'd love a chance to break your nose wait WHAT YOU WANT THAT TOO OOOOOH SHIT please let's make nice Ministry? Pretty plz?"
Fucking liar. I most definitely said "only one of us would come back". I would never discount the power of crazy.
That was the thread where Zeb said you were definitely not KAR. You were conspicuously absent.
Go gaslight someone else, you little cunt.
You said you would murder me if given the opportunity.
People tend to remember that shit.
“I’d cheerfully go to jail for breaking your nose”
Over comments on an online forum.
Wow
You said you would murder me if given the opportunity.
Argumentum ad absurdum. You are a bottom dweller in the sea of logic.
And yeah, this is my first time posting in weeks.
And my last.
You said you'd like to kill me. At least you're more honest than most of the trolls in this cesspool.
"And my last"
You already lied that.
“I’d cheerfully go to jail for breaking your nose”
Over comments on an online forum.
Wow
Can hardly call the 51st post of yours about how much a victim you are as your first post in weeks.
Just FYI every other leftist shithead like you that ran to Glibs has been banned or left after bleating about how unfair the world is because there’s too many “yokeltarians” who don’t share their obsession with Trump and fondness for Marxist politics
Which would have been obvious to anyone who's actually read the comments there. Does sarc really not remember WHY the site was created in the first place? How "local story" became a meme here? The occasional pop-in from Glibs commenters talking about how stupid some of the articles were with their hot takes and Trump obsession?
Hi sqrsly. Too much of a beat down for you today?
By the way... a " libertarian" bragging about banning counter thought is fucking hilarious. Youre not a libertarian dummy. Youre a leftist glamping.
Banning counter thought? When did you ever have a thought? All you do is attack people personally. You don't deal in ideas. You deal in insults.
No space there either.
None of the uncivilized asshats who rule these comments would last a day before getting the banhammer.
How terrible is your drunken memory? You just said that.
I'm not afraid to admit my ignorance. What is Glibs and where would someone go to find out more? I ask because google (or more precisely in my case, duckduckgo) returns several possible hits but none that seem precisely on point to what you describe.
https://glibertarians.com/
I love how you think we don't know that's your sockpuppet.
This went well sarc.
When his daughter ends up chugging cock on cam for 99 cents a minute he'll blame you for it because you were mean to him an he couldn't parent properly.
Where is this?
https://glibertarians.com/
Thanks. I'll check it out.
(Aside: Holy shit, the thread above is long.)
You did it bitch.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts.
“..... the banhammer”?
Sounds like a great place. Enjoy it.
#BidenBoom update.
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In 2021 Reason.com benefactor Charles Koch's net worth has increased by: $5.02 billion
Numbers don't lie. When there's a Republican President, Mr. Koch loses $5 billion, even if it takes an entire year like in 2020. When there's a Democratic President, Mr. Koch earns $5 billion in a matter of months.
#GetReadyForTheKochComeback
#InDefenseOfBillionaires
A paper published in the Michigan Law Review in 2019 ("Policing, Danger Narratives, and Routine Traffic Stops") found the likelihood of an officer being killed during a routine traffic stop was one in 6.5 million.
And likewise the odds of a motorist being shot despite cops being armed is just as small. There are million software interactions a year, vast majority peaceful.
So weird how different this narrative is between Babbitt and duante.
One was trespassing. The other resisting arrest.
Cops shouldn't have shot either. But outrage is only regarding one.
The odds of getting harmed increase when resisting arrest. That is the key point most of the narrative is missing. We in fact have cops being shot in normal course of actions.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-mexico-police-officer-fatally-shot-in-the-head-during-routine-stop-in-february-video-shows
There are virtually no cases of suspects being shot who are not resisting arrest. The action that differentiates here is active resistance at arrest when the proper course is to fight in court.
Reason continues to push the narrative though. Binion pushing the lie about air freshners yesterday was fucked up and he didnt apologize, just updated at the bottom of the story when corrections are generally posted at top.
Given the overwhelming number of examples where anything down to merely asking what you did wrong and insisting on knowing why you're being stopped is defined as "resisting arrest", we have a right to be skeptical of police claims on that point.
LOL. When information counters your subjective beliefs, you are skeptical. Good work.
But enb believes benefit of the doubt goes to those resisting arrest.
https://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2021/04/08/suspect-killed-philadelphia-cop-gun-battle-logan/
She would rather cops be unarmed to basically encourage even more resistance against cops.
Again, cop shouldn't have shot her gun. She fucked up. She has training on cross drawing to not pull the wrong weapon. But the kid did resist arrest. He did have warrants out. Ignoring these things is idiotic.
To the extent Reason has ever mentioned the Babbit shooting it's been to fully and completely support her being killed by a (black) cop.
Coming from an idiotic whore manque who has written dozens of articles stating forthrightly that without a special exemption from liability for web publishers there would be no such thing as free speech, and also written exhaustively on multiple platforms prior to becoming a """""libertarian""""" upon signing her Koch Industries employment contract that forcing nuns to pay for abortion is a completely appropriate use of government force.
Go make me a sandwich you dumb cunt.
The Taliban is walking out of peace talks with the U.S. backed government in Kabul.
You may have heard Biden saying, on the one hand, that while it would be difficult for the U.S. to leave by the end of April, as Trump's peace deal with the Taliban stipulated, it was hard for Biden to imagine, on the other hand, that the United States will still be in Afghanistan come 2022. This narrative ignores the reasons the Taliban is turning its back.
1) It would take us about a month to get all our heavy equipment out of the country, and if we haven't started moving that equipment already, the Biden administration probably has no intention of abiding by the withdrawal agreement and leaving by May 1st.
Because Trump believed that getting out of Afghanistan was in America's best interests, we were leaving at the end of April 2020--regardless of other extraneous demands by the U.S. backed government in Kabul. The only thing left for us to do in the agreement Trump signed with the Taliban is to leave, and if we aren't leaving by May 1st, then we're going back to a state of war with the Taliban. The Taliban hasn't targeted a single American since the day Trump signed the peace deal with the Taliban 14 months ago. Expect that to change come May 1st.
2) Biden's Secretary of State, Antony Blinken, gave the Taliban an eight page list of demands as a condition of leaving, and they included things like constitutional protections for women.
For those of you who aren't aware, the Taliban is an organization of Islamic scholars who exist for the purpose of instituting fundamentalist interpretations of sharia into the government of Afghanistan. If the United States can't leave Afghanistan until the Islamic fundamentalist Taliban becomes feminist, then we can never leave.
The Biden administration knows this, which is why the Taliban, the U.S. backed government in Kabul, and every other reasonable person in the world--excluding the mainstream press--understands that this means Biden has no intention of leaving Afghanistan . . . ever. It's just woke cover for warmongering--much like the George W. Bush administration and the Obama administration.
The parallels to progressive thought here in the U.S. are clear. Biden and the Democrats think their purpose is to inflict their woke sensibilities on the American people using the coercive power of government, and their vision is the same in Afghanistan--using the military. Biden and the Democrats are perfectly alright with forcing Americans to sacrifice our standard of living on the altar of climate change for the benefit of less fortunate people elsewhere in the world, and they have no problem forcing the American people to sacrifice our security, the lives of our heroes, and our tax money--to transform the Islamic society of Afghanistan into a woke paradise for women's rights.
We don't even have an equal rights amendment in the United States!
All of this was foreseeable, and all of this was foreseen. If President Trump had been reelected, not only would we be on our way out of Afghanistan. We might be out of there already. It is not in the best interests of the United States to fight wars of liberation on behalf of transforming other cultures to be woke. That ended in tears for Napoleon. It ended in tears for British colonialism in Africa. It ended in tears for the Bush administration in Iraq. And it will end in tears for the Biden administration in Afghanistan--as sure as the sun will rise tomorrow.
If the United States can’t leave Afghanistan until the Islamic fundamentalist Taliban becomes feminist,
We will liberate those women if we have to blow up every one of them.
It seems crazy, but Hillary Clinton the Obama administration did more or less the same thing over gay marriage in Russia. They preferred to let ISIS thrive in Syria rather than work together with Putin to destroy ISIS--for reasons like the way Putin treated LGBT in Moscow.
During the asylum crises in the Muslim world in the aftermath of the Syrian revolution, Australia was keeping asylum seekers off the coast while they were processing their asylum claims. The men there were raping the new women and girls that arrived so systematically, that the Red Cross moved all the women and girls to separate islands. The Australian government decided they didn't want to integrate hundreds of child rapists into an unsuspecting Australian society, so the asylum seekers were stuck in limbo. Obama decided to bring them all there to the U.S., much to the delight of the Australian PM. They'd have come to the U.S., too, if Trump hadn't been elected instead of Hillary.
Reason's Jesse Walker wrote that book about conspiracy theories, and how, even though they don't necessarily tell us anything about what's really happening and why, they tell us a lot about what people are thinking. I always thought the Birther narrative was a good example. I don't know or care whether Obama was really born in Kenya or Indonesia or wherever, but the idea that he's from somewhere else is a natural kind of conspiracy theory to emerge under the circumstances.
Obama enters into the Paris Climate accord, not because it's in America's best interests but because it helps poor people in the developing world at our expense. Obama enters into the Iran nuclear deal because he cares so much about the people of Iran--more so than he does about American security. Obama seems to be oblivious to American interests in regards to asylum seekers, even while they're overrunning Europe, initiating random terrorist attacks, turning the governments there anti-immigration, and even cementing Brexit. Obama cares more about asylum seekers than he does the USA.
These were all symptoms of Obama's elitism and his contempt for average Americans, whom he thought to be racist, sexist, homophobic, and xenophobic--rather than because he wasn't an American. On the other hand, it's practically inevitable that a conspiracy theory like that would emerge given his behavior. If he consistently and persistently ignores the interests of Americans, why wouldn't people start thinking that he's not really an American?
Joe Biden has the same attitudes, and he'll eventually provoke a similar response. He cares more about Afghan women than he does about American troops, that's for sure--and, yeah, he'd apparently rather subject the people of Afghanistan to more war misery than surrender control of the country to the Taliban. But his administration is also contemptuous of the kinds of Americans who volunteer for military service. I don't know that widespread fraud during the 2020 election was or wasn't a problem, but even IF IF IF it wasn't, the chances of a conspiracy theory emerging under these conditions about election fraud are virtually guaranteed.
Things will emerge--like Obama sending a palate of hard cash to the Iranians. Regardless of whether Obama being a secret Muslim non-American was true, Occam's razor, that is the simplest explanation, isn't it? Two years from now, the explanation for why the Biden administration tried to wipe out the American natural gas industry won't be dominated by discussions about why doing so was actually in our best interests--just like the explanation that we're staying in Afghanistan indefinitely because it's in our best interests to stay until the Taliban goes feminist doesn't make any sense.
Great posts, Ken. Not much to add, other than to say if we weren't going to fight in KP, we really shouldn't have stayed longer than a year.
Did Glibs really give you the boot? I mean, John and Jesse could never get along, so kicking him wasn't surprising, but I can't imagine why they'd punt you.
sounds tasty!
But good points, all.
Death the ultimate freedom
Hahaha! Mormons were huge fans of Bush's adventures in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Your perv god doesn't exist!
Care to explain why Trump didn't withdraw the troops in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020?
https://www.defenseone.com/policy/2020/07/unconventional-tactic-becomes-congresss-go-weapon-against-troop-withdrawal/166880/
Sure, as soon as you explain why Obama and Biden RAN on ending the wars in 2008 and again in 2012 and never did anything. They gave their friends contracts to build the largest airfield in the world, then abandoned the project without finishing it.
Trump expected to win reelection 14 months ago--before the pandemic. And he genuinely wanted to give the Afghan government time and opportunity to come to some kind of accommodation with the government in Kabul. If a bloodbath and refugee crisis (like those that happened in the wake of us leaving Saigon) can be avoided, then that's a good idea.
Also, as there is in any agreement like this, there were things the Taliban were required to do. We don't just capitulate to their demands without getting what we want. We promise to do "a" once they do "x". We promise to do "b" when they do "y". We promise to do "c" when they do "z", etc. Some of the things they had to do was release all the POWs they were holding, and that took some time.
There were two things in the way:
1) Before the Taliban would release the POWs they were holding, the U.S. backed government in Kabul needed to release the Taliban POWs they were holding. The Taliban released their prisoners in stages, but they completed releasing them all first. The U.S. backed government in Kabul delayed, delayed, and delayed, releasing their final batch of Taliban POWs--because they didn't want the U.S. to leave Afghanistan.
2) One of the conditions of the U.S. withdrawing from Afghanistan was that the Taliban would need to open peace negotiations with the U.S. backed government in Kabul, but there was a dispute over who the election for president of Afghanistan--and, hence, who would appoint the delegates to negotiate with the Taliban. Neither side had enough support to form a government.
Pompeo (under Trump's direction) went to Afghanistan to clear it up and get the delegates named to the peace conference, and when they failed to resolve the issue (because they didn't want to make peace with the Taliban because they didn't want the U.S. to leave) Pompeo and Trump announced they were withholding all U.S. financial aid to the U.S. backed government in Kabul until two sides resolved their differences and named delegates to the peace conference.
When the United States withdraws from Afghanistan, the U.S. backed government there will probably be exiled or slaughtered--and they know that. They've dragged their heels every stop of the way, which prompted President Trump to threaten withdrawing before the end of the year at one point. The U.S. backed government delayed and delayed hoping that Biden would beat Trump and wouldn't abandon them to the wolves, and that's exactly what happened.
With an election behind him, Trump would have left Afghanistan behind if he'd been reelected. The Taliban behaved as if that were true. Pompeo behaved as if that were true. The Pentagon behaved as if that were true. The U.S. backed government in Kabul behaved as if that were true. Did you not believe that was true for some reason? What do you know that they don't know?
If the Taliban wants a fight, I would fight them the way we fought the Nazis which means destroying their territory brick by brick until every abled bodied man is either dead or has surrendered.
Germany and Afghanistan are very similar geographically, culturally, and economically. Great idea!
Great idea....but.....Obama and Biden paid for all their infrastructure with US tax dollars. The rest was Russian built. The only only building material in Afghanistan is mud and dung.
Fuckin' LOL. Ok, tough guy. We've been bombing their country for nearly 20 years now, and we STILL can't get their percentage of territorial control down to a level the Pentagon is comfortable with.
Yes, despite what you may think, destroying the Taliban has NEVER been part of the overall strategy in Afghanistan. Biden's about to cock up what should be a slam-dunk PR move because his people are butt-blasted that Trump might get ANY kind of credit for doing something positive.
One of the problems with that theory is that much of the Taliban isn't in Afghanistan. It's in the mountains of Pakistan. And just because those areas are within the borders of Pakistan on a political map doesn't mean that the official government of Pakistan control those mountainous areas. Not only that, but parts of the Pakistan military establishment may be supportive of the Taliban. Osama bin Laden wasn't found hiding in Pakistan for no good reason. Whether he was under house arrest or under the protection of the ISI may be under debate, but that the ISI knew where he was the whole time isn't. Do you plan to go to war with Pakistan? Are you aware that they have nuclear weapons? Are you aware that in some ways, they're allies of the United States against the Taliban? I don't think you've really thought this through.
I maintain that is both in our best interests to leave Afghanistan and it is in out best interests not to go to war with Pakistan.
"Tehrik-i-Taliban in Pakistan . . . alternatively referred to as the Pakistani Taliban or TTP in short, is a terrorist armed group that is an umbrella organization of various militant groups based along the Afghan–Pakistani border. Most Taliban groups in Pakistan coalesce under the TTP.[26] In December 2007 about 13 groups united under the leadership of Baitullah Mehsud to form the TTP.[2] Among the stated objectives of TTP is resistance against the Pakistani state.[2][27] The TTP's aim is to overthrow the government of Pakistan by waging a terrorist campaign against the Pakistan armed forces and the state.[28] The TTP depends on the tribal belt along the Afghanistan-Pakistan border from which to draw its recruits."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehrik-i-Taliban_Pakistan
Invading Afghanistan as an act of self-defense after the acting government there harbored and collaborated with a terrorist group that initiated an attack on American civilians is one thing.
Invading Pakistan for the express purpose of liberating their territory from the ideological tenets of a culture that's dominated the area since before Alexander the Great invaded is another thing entirely.
If there's anything more ridiculous than a Republican neocon who thinks the purpose of the War on Terror is to keep fighting until the world's 1.2 billion Muslims finally decide to stop being Muslims, it's probably progressives who in addition to thinking that using the military to change people's cultures in other parts of the world is appropriate--just like they think it's the job of the U.S. government to wage an ideological war on its own people. Jesus Christ, that's the difference between being wrong and being evil. For goodness' sake, the worst thing about the Taliban isn't that they aren't woke. It's that they're willing to inflict their ideology on other people using the military and the government. What's the progressives' excuse?
damn, Im gonna put that last paragraph on a plaque
So enlist.
By the way Ken, without French intervention into that "woke" 1776 war the rebels probably don't win.
A reminder that the French entry was after many Frenchmen came to us on their own to fight for freedom. One, Marie-Joseph Paul Yves Roch Gilbert du Motier, Marquis de La Fayette, even bought a ship on his own because the French government wasn't yet persuaded.
that war didn't take 20 years
Because something was the right thing to do in one circumstance doesn't mean it's always the right thing to do in every circumstance.
Even so, I'm not sure the French backed the American revolution because we were woke or even because we believed in liberty--so much--as because we were fighting against their enemy in England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Alliance_(1778)#Background
The support of the king certainly wasn't about the universal rights of man, even if the rationalization for that support was--among other parts of French society. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. The English were soon at war with the Dutch, the French, and the Spanish I believe.
“Even so, I’m not sure the French backed the American revolution because we were woke or even because we believed in liberty–so much–as because we were fighting against their enemy in England.”
I mean, this is middle school level history here, and lord Strudel is completely ignorant of it.
You mean that time that the elitist, absolute monarchy who regularly spit on the vulnerable groups in French society took food out of the poor's mouths to support the racist, white supremacist slave owners you want to cancel in their war against the monarch's cheif foreign enemy as a ploy to control the spice and slave trades? That was a direct contributing factor to the French revolution of 1789, wasn't it?
Guess who came up with this nonsense and sent the first round of cash to Afghanistan for "Women's Rights"? Hillary Clinton
I was there when the first 25 million arrived. It angered all Afghans, not only the Taliban, like a turd in the punch bowl. The women never asked for it, they are followers of Islam too.
its not our job to force American ideals onto foreign religions. I know we wouldn't stand for it why should they
its not our job to force American ideals onto foreign religions. I know we wouldn’t stand for it why should they
The US really is the dumbest empire ever, and it's because of the fallacious idea that the principles of Enlightenment philosophy are universal truths that don't have to be enforced at the point of a gun.
The principles of the Enlightenment are universal truths that don't have to be enforced at the point of a gun. Which is why we don't need to keep troops in Afghanistan to enforce them at the point of a gun.
The principles of the Enlightenment are universal truths that don’t have to be enforced at the point of a gun.
If someone violates those principles, what is the recourse for the person who suffered?
The Enlightenment was overrated, anyway, as it assumed things about humanity that were entirely based on the narrow scope of ideas rooted in the philosophies of Greek and Roman statesmen.
We're not the first.
Napoleon did the same thing.
The English did the same thing with British imperialism--bringing civilization to the world. Their original purpose of their adventures in Africa was to stamp out the slave trade at its source. Heart of Darkness (and Apocalypse Now) is all about the atrocities required to bring civilization, freedom, etc. to the rest of the world.
Alexander brought civilization at the point of a spear.
Anglo-Saxon culture, however, is unrivaled in this regard. I don't think there is any place left on earth that Anglo-Saxon people haven't either invaded or colonized at one point or another--and there isn't any other culture that make that claim. We often do it under the guise of self-defense, too, but we also do invade to save the locals, too. Americans thinking that the Iraqis wanted us to bomb, invade, and occupy their country was by no means unique. The people of African were going to love being British, too!
The British didn't draw the lines on the world map arbitrarily because they didn't care about the expense of the nationalist wars they were provoking in the future.. There was just no reason to worry about such things when all of their territories would eventually just be British in spite of their silly little local cultural artifacts anyway, right? Why would you want to speak Kurdish, believe in Islam, or wear a sari when you could be British?
Oh, and in case you didn't know, everyone in the USA, New Zealand, Canada, and the UK wants to be like Australia, too. Just ask an Australian! I've never seen such a bewildered look as I did when explaining to one my Scottish friends, that just because that's the way they do things in the UK isn't necessarily a good reason to do anything. Canadians think the reason Americans say they don't want to be like them is because we're stupid or jealous. The rest of the world wants to be like New Zealand, too.
Our Anglo-Saxon cultures are fuckin' amazing that way.
Why would you want to speak Kurdish, believe in Islam, or wear a sari when you could be British?
Ethno-nationalist chauvinism is not all you need to conquer, control, and remake foreign lands, but it has been one of the pre-requisites for nearly all of human history.
Wait, I thought the government dictating what wemon can and cannot do or say was feminism now?
And what does the shooting of 3 cops during a traffic stop remind us of?
That ENB talks about whoring because she knows she's an intellectual lightweight?
Reminds us that bad things happen sometimes. Cops voluntarily sign up for an occasionally dangerous job. Of course they have the right to defend themselves. But they don't have that right beyond what anyone else has. Rare events don't justify a more aggressive posture towards the general public.
Fuck off sarcasmic
Good point! So you're saying that writing a headline implying that it's unreasonable for cops to feel fearful during traffic stops based on one police shooting was pretty fucking stupid, right sarcasmic?
Aaron Ross Powell
@ARossP
This is obviously not true. You can oppose racism while thinking student debt cancelation is bad policy, poorly targeted to address racial disparities, oppression, and poverty.
It does damage to the cause of actual anti-racism to try to hook all your favored policies onto it.
Anti racism damages itself due to its subjective hypocrisy. It is idiotic. It is cultural marxism. It should be mocked, not discussed.
They’ve been incentivized to call anyone a racist that disagrees with them on any policy regardless of its relation to race. Why stop now?
It should be mocked, not discussed.
This is what irritates the shit out of me, the number of people who seriously discuss this shit as if it were worthy of discussion. Your only response to this crap should be a swift and firm "Fuck off." Stop defendinding yourself from accusations of being a bad person, a racist, a Nazi, a white supremacist, a sexist, a homophobe, a transphobe, an Islamaphobe, a colonialist oppressor, the accusations are not made in good faith but merely as a means to shut you up.
"Biden reaches agreement with 3 countries to try to keep migrants from reaching southern border"
https://news.yahoo.com/biden-reaches-agreement-3-countries-041037022.html
Imagine the screams from most of the media if the first word was spelled T-R-U-M-P.
Shikha would rise from the grave.
Her and Sonali Kolhatkar would be incandescent
Wait'll Biden asks for the funds to "plug the gaps" in the
border wallphysical infrastructure on our southern border.Of course, he could just complete the work already paid for - - - - - - - -
The southern frontier. We no longer call them borders. They are now new places to strive toward...
So he is now building fences, putting remain in Mexico back, and paying countries to keep citizens there.. he wrote 3 Eos to undo these trump policies day one. Weird.
Media is also keeping this shit quiet well talking about how compassionate biden is on illegal immigration, so they are actively not mitigating the flood at the borders.
Nobody wants to admit SleepyJoe is the new Trump.
That really is the astonishing part of this whole thing. I can understand the idea that one might be pulling for a particular policy objective and slanting coverage accordingly.
But this is a case of ludicrous levels of hypocrisy, flip-flopping, and outright dishonesty. You would think it would at least draw the attention of most mainstream political coverage. I cannot think of anything more outlandish in this arena over the last 50 years.
This is as if Reagan had suddenly signed over Berlin to the communists, or if Obama had suddenly rescinded all healthcare subsidies and tax incentives in order to fix the healthcare system.
Some people keep trying to tell me that it is always been the way it is with the media. That is just fundamentally not true. They may have always had their own biases and slanted coverage because of that. But this is at a whole different level.
Sounds like what Trump did years ago.
Weird.
White man explaining anti-racism to black congresswoman.
This should go well.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1381897920820219907?s=19
NEW - European Center for Law & Justice reports finds NGOs controlled by Bill Gates & George Soros have apparently been influenced judges at the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR)
[Link]
Just days ago the ECHR ruled that compulsory vaccinations would not contravene human rights law and may be necessary for democratic societies.
necessary for democratic societies"
which separates us from dictatorships somehow. i fail to see the difference between teh two anymore. dictatorship do "X" or else = Democracy do "X" or else
"Federal judge in Washington wants to get rid of important libel law"
[...]
"One prominent Washington figure believes the news media have become saturated with liberal bias. The New York Times and Washington Post are “virtually Democratic Party broadsheets,” and the Associated Press and most major newspapers follow their lead. Nearly all television, except for Fox News, is “a Democratic Party trumpet.” And it should be much easier for public officials to sue the press for libel..."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/us-world/us/article/Federal-judge-in-Washington-wants-to-get-rid-of-16095737.php
Sounds like someone's off the res!
Sex offense allegations in 3,2,...
"President Joe Biden is once again pushing rape myths."
As in pushing them up against a wall and penetrating them with his fingers involuntarily after all the other myths have gone home for the day?
There were several cops shot in the last week at traffic stops you stupid fucking feckless cunt.
I assure you they are in fear during each traffic stop thanks to the mass media and social media ginning up hate among the population
"Daunte Wright Shooting a Reminder That It's Not Cops Who Should Fear for Their Lives During Traffic Stops"
Tell that to the families of police officers who were shot to death while doing their jobs.
https://abc13.com/texas-state-trooper-shot-dies-chad-walker-death-dps-mexia/10465015/
actual anti-racism
LOL
I will concede that traffic stops are dangerous for cops. But the danger is other drivers. Almost all cops killed or injured during a traffic stop are hurt by passing cars, not by the people they are stopping.
Think about it. You're pulling someone over on a busy road. You're walking up to that car on the side that is closest to traffic. You're often doing it at night, in the rain or during other conditions of low visibility. And you're inexplicably doing it in dark clothing. I don't usually have good things to say about European police but at least they are smart enough to make their uniforms in bright colors with highly reflective stripes. US cops have this fixation for black, blue (and sometimes brown) that's practically begging to get them hurt at night.
And, by the way, you're giving the cop a complicated job and teaching him to be irrationally fearful of the person he pulled over so he's got no attention left to watch out for traffic. It's no wonder cops get killed in traffic stops. But they're being killed due to their own department's policies that put them in unnecessary danger. Deaths instigated by the person being pulled over are incredibly rare.
Looks like another well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, are working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage, and control the flow of information.
https://archive.ph/9V8yo
"Ooops, your state corporate tax rate just went up to 90%. How did that happen?"
https://twitter.com/Izzy_B911/status/1381717023097491458?s=19
Ladies and gentlemen, this is your average college student:
I told a girl in my class today that "politicians lie all the time."
She didn't believe me and accused me of being a QAnon follower.
The obvious question which isn't answered in any meaningful way or manner is "Was she hot?"
did you get digits?
https://twitter.com/Lukewearechange/status/1381801560498388998?s=19
WOW Search Results for "Riots Today" on DuckDuckGo vs Google (4/12/21) [pic]
why do we need armed authorities to enforce traffic violations anyway?
Every law passed by some legislative body then requires someone to enforce it, and every law has the implication of force. We can bitch about cops and those who do not belong in the profession, or (and?) we can take a hard look at the people who continually pass new laws that by definition result in more interactions between cops and citizens. It would be nice if lawmaking bodies would periodically dedicate time to getting rid of pointless or ineffectual laws. Or we can just blame cops and keep electing the same people in hopes that they'll behave differently.
Cops are the enforcers of the legislative branch.
It makes me wonder about how the left thinks they would enforce stricter gun laws.
I find it hilarious that Ms. "LOCK HIM UP" is now saying we should end incarcerations.
Congratulations, Mrs Smith! Your husband won the lottery and died of a vaccine induced blood clot disorder. A 6 in 7 million chance! You must be feeling very lucky!
It may be better than being regarded as a science denying anti-vaxxer.
>>The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) want the U.S.
to continue the panicdemic.
This latest shooting in Minneapolis underscores another thing. The dangerous speed at which rumors fly and the irresponsible nature of our media.
I was watching coverage on CNN. They were running with rumors from protesters on the street. People were saying that they pulled this guy over because he had too many air fresheners hanging from his mirror and then they just murdered him.
This is the kind of stuff that gets people killed. And they were happy to assist by spreading ludicrous rumors like that.
And it isn't like this is the first time. This happens over and over again. The media still repeats some of the wild speculation from prior incidents as if it was fact. Nobody at CNN or the New York Times seem to mind that getting people whipped up over nothing not only helps energize their partisan base, it also causes serious economic and physical harm to our country.
"Seem to mind"? Isn't it the point, Cyto?
A CNN reporter accidentally talked to a protester last night who directly blamed them for fomenting the riots.
That is pretty epic.
Not just CNN.
I'm listening to ESPN radio today, and it's one of the first topics the noon show covers (because the Twins and TWolves canceled games yesterday). They keep repeating how "this happened again", "we have to come together to fix it", "players are thinking about this could be them", "what the community's dealing with", etc. I don't particularly blame the hosts of this show, as they really don't get into the woke narratives much at all (whereas other shows they have bitch constantly about social justice and ncaa needs to make women equal, etc) and ESPN (Disney) will only accept (and order) one party line. But it wasn't mentioned that he was shot resisting arrest and trying to flee. It wasn't mentioned that this is a rare occurrence, or that violent crime is a far larger threat.
It never is. "This could be any black guy, even wealthy pro athletes"... sure, if they have warrants out for them, get lawfully pulled over for expired tags, then resist arrest and try to flee.
Want these things to be more rare and people to feel less threatened?
Then make it a point to advocate not resisting arrest or running, and stop talking about these incidents inaccurately and without proportion.
And you left off that it was completely a mistake. Even with all of that, nobody intended to shoot anybody. So there was no grand racist conspiracy to shoot random black people just because of internalized racism. The video was extremely clear. It was a complete screw up.
So the real narrative is that this dude created a dangerous situation for no real reason.... I suppose he panicked when he realized he was being arrested.... The arresting officer did a bad job maintaining control of his subject...... The subject gets back into his vehicle and attempts to drive away... successfully. An officer goes to assist with a taser and does a really good job following procedures except for one thing. She pulls a gun instead of a taser.
That's kind of a big one thing, but there is no way you can assign malice to it, conscious or unconscious.
The whole "players thinking this could be them" is completely laughable on its face. These are people driving Ferraris and living in million-dollar mansions in gated communities with security guards. Their professional lives are heavily curated to where they can't even take a shit without the team doctor knowing about it. We've seen more current and former professional athletes killed by their own people in the last 50 years than by cops. No, bouncy ball players, the odds of this happening to you is as likely as it is any professional athlete.
In "Juiced," Jose Canseco wrote about how he got pulled over and harassed by a cop because of who he was, and bitched that "Cal Ripken never would have experienced something like this." Dude, Ripken doesn't have to worry about that stuff because he never put himself in a position to do so. When you have a community full of people who are in constant hustle mode, with low future-time orientation and impulse control, you're going to have a situation where the whole social culture is stuck doing the same thing over and over and over again.
"Their professional lives are heavily curated to where they can’t even take a shit without the team doctor knowing about it."
Which makes the Deshaun Watson litigation such a minefield for the Texans, and maybe the NFL as a whole....
Oh, I have no doubt the team knew what was going on. Is it really any fucking coincidence that this comes out right after he's trying to get himself traded out of that dumpster fire of a franchise?
And the thing is, I'm actually inclined to believe his accusers. My suspicion is that he has a fetish that he was indulging, and the team overlooked it because he was their franchise QB.
Yes to the second, though even as stupid as I think the Texans franchise is managed, I can't see them deliberately letting this news out and cratering his trade value.
Horrifically run franchise though. League too, lately. I hope Buzbee does find a smoking memo that reveals the team and/or League decided to actively try to hide Watson's deviant and illegal behavior.
Vehicle registration is a stupid law? OK, maybe. Make an argument. I doubt many who are protesting Wright's death will agree with you.
Having a gun without a permit is a stupid law? OK, maybe. Make an argument. I doubt many who are protesting Wright's death will agree with you, though.
It being an arrestable offense to refuse to show up for your hearing for another alleged infraction is a stupid law? Um, is that a hill you want to die on, ENB?
Wright did not need to fear for his life because of the traffic stop. He put himself in danger of police violence by resisting the apparently valid prior arrest warrants.
The assumption that traffic violations should be handled by photographs and mail. As if someone like Wright who skipped out on a court appearance is likely to pay attention to a by mail fine. Also, ENB seems to be seriously arguing that red-light cameras and similar equipment are the way to go? I am a bit flabbergasted.
[Reason writer] seems to be seriously arguing that red-light cameras and similar equipment are the way to go? I am a bit flabbergasted
Are you still under the impression that they're libertarians?
traffic violations are mere excuses to look inside.
Wright was not being arrested for anything the police found inside. ENB's assertion is that Wright should not have been arrested, why not?
I'm not speaking for ENB I'm only pointing out if no fuzzy dice no confrontation and nobody dies for no reason that day
Except the initial stop seems to be for the expired registration, not what was hanging off the rear view mirror.
>>After pulling Wright over for violating a Minnesota law that prohibits drivers from hanging objects—a rosary, fuzzy dice, an air freshener—from their mirrors,
this ^^ was in the Binion piece she linked to it's my only cite
Apparently, Binion was misinformed.
Lol gotta be like a once-an-hourly thing.
Registration pull-overs are nonsense too. In STL 1994 I got pulled over 2x on the same one-mile drive up Dorsett I'm like dudes can I get home to see if my registration sticker is in the mail at least?
I feel that feel.
The old, and I think permanently gone, poster John pointed out a few years ago that this society really doesn't tolerate people who can't keep up with their paperwork or with petty legal requirements. It came up in a discussion of Lindsay Lohan's travails with the law, versus Michelle Rodriguez, and how she handled her DUI.
Rodriguez didn't fuck around with supervised release, probation, or anything else that would prolong her contact with the California criminal justice system. She made them jail her for as much of the sentence as they wanted to deal with, which wasn't very long. (It's a PITA to jail a celeb.) Then she was done. Lohan, OTOH, kept fucking up: not showing for piss tests, blowing off meetings with her P.O., and generally not keeping up with paperwork. And constantly had cops up her ass because of it.
In the past, our society, if not liking the town drunk or fuck-up, at least stopped trying to make them jump through bureaucratic hoops. There's a certain kind of person who may mean well, but isn't reliable.
Doesn't keep up with things. In the past, those people, and everyone else---mostly got left alone. We don't leave people alone anymore.
Let's also not forget Wright's pending armed robbery charge from February of this year. https://www.thedailybeast.com/daunte-wrights-mom-says-minnesota-police-killed-her-son-over-an-air-freshener-violation?via=FB_Page&source=TDB
Nice how the Daily Beast buries the fuck out of the lede on that one. About eight paragraphs down, you'll find:
Reason writers wanted this. Agg robbery charge and yet, out for months pending trial. No mention of bail, either. Definitely, shouldn't have his gun possession rights infringed by it.
Peace officers are the ones who shoot people to peaceful death over plant leaves? Their orders come from political platforms of peace party politicians?
Drugs not kick in yet, Hank?
Square
This is obviously not true. You can oppose racism while thinking student debt cancelation is bad policy, poorly targeted to address racial disparities, oppression, and poverty.
It does damage to the cause of actual anti-racism to try to hook all your favored policies onto it.
Don't know who this random blue checkmark is, buuut anti-racism is racist, in case you're not keeping the fuck up.
https://twitter.com/ConceptualJames/status/1381994077449822208?s=19
This is justifiable under Critical Race Theory, in the name of equity and disrupting "white comfort."
[Video]
I heard there is some stuff going on in Minneapolis. Here's the front page, above the fold story in my newspaper:
My paper buried the AP story about Minneapolis in the back pages and left the impression it was entirely peaceful. Some hundreds met in protest, pounded a drum, chanted Daunte's name, and were met by cops who fired gas grenades at them. No broken windows, no looting, no tossing projectiles at cops so I guess that is just Fox News faux news.
No looting, only because evidently, the cops showed up en masse, and ready to play. Disappointed some people I was reading who were following the streams. Let's see what happens tonight.
Get ready for next week, or whenever the Chauvin trial ends. That one, won't stay in Minneapolis.
Bari Weiss substack has guest article from private school math teacher in the midst of Orwellian/Kafkaesque struggle against imposition of Critical Race Theory by school, and Stalinist crackdown against any dissent.
https://bariweiss.substack.com/p/i-refuse-to-stand-by-while-my-students
The school bills itself in the "Episcopal Tradition". Its website contains the following paragraph:
"The third and fourth grades read Hebrew scriptures, and the fifth grade focuses on the New Testament. These sacred texts are taught neither as truth, nor as literature. Rather, they are presented as a body of powerful stories that have moved millions over thousands of years and serve as truth to those for whom they are true."
It's interesting that whereas scripture is taught as symbolic and open to interpretation, Critical Race Theory is being taught as unquestionable and absolute. In other words, CRT is taught as a fundamentalist, intratextual enterprise.
That article is just surreal.
Once again, if you're a libertarian and tired of being shat on by asshats saying you're some other poster, try the Glibertarians.
https://glibertarians.com/
I'm not an emissary and they'll likely disapprove of this message, but c'mon. These comments are a cesspool run by a gang of conservatard bullies.
Let the trolls have their creation. Go elsewhere for intelligent conversation.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts and make this shit happen pussy.
dude if you leave there won't be anyone to call me names for things I didn't say
I thought calling people out for things they never said was your job.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts and make this shit happen pussy
Zeb the coolest, most level headed person here.
Shitting on him because he said I'm not KAR is... I dunno. Don't have words.
dude what? it's impossible to have fun with you so I'll stop trying now.
It's pointing out he's your sock bitch.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts and make this shit happen pussy
Are you sure you're not me?
lol
Reason is awash in frightened communo-fascist pests for the same reason the national LP has become a dumping-ground for similar infiltrators. They worship coercion, abhor freedom, and cannot defend their premises or conclusions even to their brother self-deceiving Left&Right altruists. Exposing their similarities and machinations to voters is more productive of freedom than joining their ordure-flinging.
Lol. sarcasmic thinks the Reason.com comments are a cesspool of "conservatard bullies" and flees to the arms of a site that exists because a bunch of people from Reason.com left because Reason.com was becoming too leftist. Holy shit. I really have to start hanging out over there again. It's going to be absolutely fucking hilarious when they run him out on a rail. A site that banned Ken Shultz and John for being too liberal and mouthy. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
tell me Zeb's not a sock too or I won't believe anything anymore.
I'd thought he was a separate poster. Been around for awhile. Pre-Trump, and I want to say pre-Obama. Never flagged him as a troll not worth my time, FWIW.
Times like these, I tend to think we're all characters imagined by that autistic kid, staring into the snow globe at the end of St. Elsewhere.
the end of that spectacular series still pisses me off ... the socks I don't care about because it's performance art to me but I really believed zeb was only zeb ... more fool me
Yeah, I've been posting here with the same name since before Obama and I have never spoofed a handle or created a fake personality. I have no interest in the stupid, petty fights and troll wars and try my best to stick to engaging with people who are actually trying to have an honest discussion or debate (though I do sometimes get sucked into the bullshit against my better judgement). I like you, Dillinger, so I hope you are having a laugh and not seriously entertaining this nonsense.
I'm relieved you're you we'll leave it there.
It's just a total coincidence they showed up together.
is a good thing I barely care about any of this lol
Yet you pile on just like the unpopular kid who feels they can be cool when the popular kids shit on some other unpopular kid.
remember all those other times I was all "dude the me who's mean to you isn't me"?
I recall reading that once.
That's rather impressive since you couldn't even remember which sock you were on upthread and outed yourself yet again.
Good thing you left never to return over 50 posts ago. LMFAO
Fuck off sarcasmic, stop hiding behind crowds.
Characterizing what happened above as a troll war is unjust. That was 100% a meltdown by sarcasmic.
Timestamps >>>>> denials
I mean the general, ongoing troll wars. Call them whatever you want, I think you know what I mean.
"I have no interest in the stupid, petty fights"
Shall I quote you from yesterday when you were chastising people for telling you to stop shitting up the thread?
You're a lair. Go away.
Yeah, dude, occasionally expressing frustration with pointless bullshit is exactly the same.
Shall I quote myself where I admit that I don't always succeed in staying out of it. Like now for example. I should know better.
Seriously, anyone who unironically believes that you sock is a used-up dildo. You've been commenting here longer than I have.
Yet when Tulpa, who brags about running multiple socks and impersonating people, says I'm running socks and impersonating people, you further the bullshit and pile on when people say I molest my daughter.
If you haven't learned after all this time not to respond to Tulpa, that's your problem not mine.
And I never said you molested your kid. Post some links to kiddie porn, like Shriek did, and I'll modify that stance.
At this point what does it matter? Tulpa controls the narrative with his dozen socks. People believe what a dozen socks say over and over. He won. This is his cesspool. Don't ask me for soap.
This is his cesspool. Don’t ask me for soap
You seem to be the only one here looking to get clean.
Lol. You l-i-t-e-r-a-l-l-y just outed your sock again upthread because you're a drunk piece of shit who can't keep his bullshit straight. Keep projecting.
By the way I'm not Tulpa and I'm the only who accuses you of raping your daughter. I base that assessment on your many self-confessions that you were not allowed visitation of your children after your wife left you. The only reason that typically happens is when there are credible accusations of molestation.
Please leave me out of this. If you actually think I'm a sock or a socker, I don't know what to say.
"I really believed zeb was only zeb"
It's because you're a sock. Stop hiding in crowds.
You only show up in threads where sarcasmic has posted, and always offer a half-assed defense of whatever retarded shit he's managed to post between blackouts. It's coincidental to say the least. Not least because you are literally the only person who ever defends that stupid self-confessed alcoholic welfare queen and claim to be his close personal friend in real life. All I can say is if you're not his sock, he's damn lucky to have a friend with your kamikaze style of loyalty who will drown along with him out of friendship.
I realize the above thread where I argued with sarcasmic is long, so here is the condensed version:
He wrote that the comments at Reason were " a wasteland of stupidity" and invited a named few "civilized" libertarians to join him at another site. I pointed out that he invited a guy who stated outright that he didn't believe in natural rights and a guy that believes that refusing to protect someone else is a violation of the NAP, which makes his claims that they are libertarians or civilized spurious. Instead of engaging with any of my arguments, he claimed I threatened to murder him.
Please don't waste your time. I wish I hadn't.
I pointed out that he invited a guy who stated outright that he didn’t believe in natural rights and a guy that believes that refusing to protect someone else is a violation of the NAP, which makes his claims that they are libertarians or civilized spurious.
I wasn't part of those conversations so I have no comment.
Instead of engaging with any of my arguments, he claimed I threatened to murder him.
You said that if we went shooting, you'd be the only one going home. Anyone can see that means you'd murder me if you had a chance.
Please don’t waste your time. I wish I hadn’t.
That's why you don't see me here anymore. It is indeed a waste of time.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts and make this shit happen pussy
>>That’s why you don’t see me here anymore.
you've posted 84 times
over the course of an entire workday
You know what I meant, though I'm sure you'll lie and say you didn't. If this is fun for you then enjoy. Over and out. If you want to chat look me up on the Glibs.
Blah blah blah all you are is fucking bitch words.
Stop hiding in crowds at concerts and make this shit happen pussy.
>>You know what I meant,
you meant to make yourself look better by lying
so yeah, I did know
This is the first time I've logged into this pathetic forum in weeks. Saying I don't post often makes me a liar because I posted often in the last few hours when I was referring to the last few weeks?
Yet I'm the dishonest one. Suuuure. You're in good company here. No intellectual honesty.
>>No intellectual honesty
which one of me?
Why would anyone sock you?
After being reminded upthread I apologize. You're one of the few here who should be somewhere else. Check out the Glibs. You might like it.
But you won't once they figure out what you are.
I wasn’t part of those conversations so I have no comment.
You were part of the fucking conversation above where I pointed it out and you proceeded to dodge, duck dip, dive and dodge away from repudiating lefties.
Your absolute refusal to argue in good faith is on full display today.
You said that if we went shooting, you’d be the only one going home.
"Based on sacasmic's internet personae, I fear that if we were to go out on a shooting expedition only one of us would make it home."
Keep lying, Lysander Liam McLiarpants.
I even revised my thoughts on it earlier before you started with the full gaslight treatment. I am now positive you would kill me before I had a chance to decide. Because I am an open minded person and you are an evil little troll.
What did I say that was a lie? If we met in person you'd judge me on Tulpa's impersonations, not myself. Your mind is made up. Don't pretend otherwise.
If you're so open minded why not explain your religious beliefs to everyone Chuck?
Fuck off, cunt. Your bait is tainted.
You mean my taint is bait? To the ladies it is!
Because you think I'm baiting you?
Or is it because what you believe is retarded?
Meant to reply to you. See below.
Chuck mormons don't have rights. Anyone dumb enough to believe the bs y'all believe doesn't deserve rights.
It's rich you calling others out for not being libertarian you fucking welfare queen.
Notice how KillAllRednecks who totally isn't sarcasmic suddenly started calling everyone welfare queens only after I spent months making him cry like a little bitch by pointing out his self-confessed welfare usage?
I pointed out that he invited a guy who stated outright that he didn’t believe in natural rights and a guy that believes that refusing to protect someone else is a violation of the NAP, which makes his claims that they are libertarians or civilized spurious.
That he invited White Excrement, a poster with deep BLM sympathies, and chemtard, who openly shills for lefties whenever something bad happens to them, shows a complete misunderstanding of the glibs' culture. They're far closer to Ron Paul or Gary Johnson-type libertarians than Zuri Davis or Shika Dalmia types, and a lot of their comment section is devoted to non-political stuff. In addition to that, a lot of those guys know each other in real life so they have an investment in keeping their community low-drama and high-trust.
The minute sarc starts going off about "Trump dick-suckers" is when he finds out how strict the glibs are about membership.
So the Glibs kicked you out? Not surprised.
I never set up an account there in the first place, dummy.
Good choice. They have conversations. You know, they like talk and stuff without saying "You're a drunk on welfare who fucks his daughter" to win an argument. You wouldn't fit in.
I never accused you of molesting your kid. And here I thought being a drunk was a libertarian rite of passage.
Your obsession with middle school-style popularity stacks is duly noted, however.
What's most amusing about this faux outrage of yours over mean words is that commenters ten years ago routinely joked about this comment section being "Thunderdome" and was getting trashed by outsiders like Popehat for being a dumpster fire, even before Glibs was set up. And here you are admitting that you willingly wallowed in it for all that time.
I wallowed, sure. In exposing progressive illogic. In using economic arguments to counter populist policy ideas.
Now the comments aren't about ideas, they're about people. If someone says something the middle school kids don't like they're rewarded with a dozen personal insults and strawman attacks. Don't like Trump's trade war? You're a drunk on welfare. Say Qualified Immunity is a problem? You voted party-line Democrat and think that's the magical pill that will fix everything.
There's no exchanging of ideas. It's all bullshit.
I'm glad you like it. Because I won't miss you a bit.
That's not true. I see your handle and I'm reminded of seeing Ozzy, Steve Miller, Pantera, and other shows. Other than that I lump you in with the rest.
I wallowed, sure. In exposing progressive illogic. In using economic arguments to counter populist policy ideas.
LOL, get over yourself. Your posts were one, maybe two-line snarks over 90% of the time. chemjeff's posts, at least, are actual arguments based on a specific paradigm. Yours rarely, if ever, reached that stage.
Now the comments aren’t about ideas, they’re about people. If someone says something the middle school kids don’t like they’re rewarded with a dozen personal insults and strawman attacks.
That happened long before the Glibs departed. Look how much people shat on joe from Lowell or shriek.
There’s no exchanging of ideas. It’s all bullshit.
There's plenty of ideas being exchanged. You've just gotten to the point where you didn't like how it was being done anymore, despite participating in it for all this time.
I’m glad you like it. Because I won’t miss you a bit.
Feeling is mutual. Glibs was set up fucking YEARS ago, and here you are crowing because you finally decided to wander over there after all this time and they're temporarily accepting you, pending your own behavior.
Where's sarc going to go when the Glibs get sick of his shit and make him have a sad.
I wish he'd clue in that he's not remotely libertarian and he'd be far happier posting at Huffpo.
sarc is hardly a Huffpo-style commenter, and there are plenty of libertarians who are simps for cheap Chinese shit, think there's no downside at all to unlimited immigration, and are reflexively anti-cop regardless of the circumstances.
Not a lot of them post at Glibs, though.
Lowell! That was the town 'Everyone's Favorite Urban Planner' came from!
Couldn't remember it for the longest time....
sarcasmic used to be among them. Now he literally defends well-known shreek sockpuppets like Sarah Palin's Buttplug and pisses and moans about conservatard Mean Girls bullying cytotoxic and Tony when people treat the leftist trolls the way they've been treating the leftist trolls since the olden days before registration when White Indian was running rampant.
A better example would be when you said that BLM riots were 100% legitimate and that arresting rioters during those riots constituted fascism perpetrated by the Trump administration. Or when you said that a much smaller riot at the capitol building constituted an insurrection that justified 25,000 politically-screened National Guard troops to occupy Washington D.C. Or when you spent 4 years chasing Russia collusion fever dreams and rallied behind the "intelligence community" who we now know deliberate lied on a secret FISA warrant to maintain a harassment campaign against the elected president. The very same intelligence community you supposedly hated when it provided the justification for the Iraq war that you opposed. The very same intelligence community you suddenly had no problem with when it provided the justification for the Syria war you supported. You have no principles. Trump utterly shattered whatever was left of your fragile, drunken, lonely, spouse-abusing, child-molesting mind. Your entire worldview now is just partisan talking points. Trump bad. Anything against Trump good. It's been hilarious watching you devolve over the last 4 years from constantly posting your bumper-sticker slogan "principals not principles" and even initially defending Trump's supporters when Reason was going off the deep end to gibbering like a moron about being persecuted by Mean Girls because not everyone fell into your anti-Trump insanity to the point of cheerleading for secret spying based on deliberately fabricated warrants in a star chamber. You're a fucking joke.
hey at least you got the Joseph Smith cuck to leave you alone for an afternoon
Dont count your chickens before they hatch.
You're not a hippie. You're a goddamn fascist!
lol I love you, man. I'm antagonarchist.
All is forgiven just don't call me "joseph smith Cuck." I don't want to be associated with that pervert con man.
So just "Cuck" or buddy
deal
LOL
KARen finally produces a good post!
Traitor
OK, troll. Why are rights “natural”, as opposed to being something that tend not to occur naturally at all, and history shows people have had to fight for?
Either you don't know what the "natural" in natural rights means or you're pretending not to in order to justify your state-worship. Either way it's pathetic, and I can't wait until you bust that out over at what you think is your new circle jerk. Hoo boy.
OK, troll. When have I ever expressed deep sympathy for the Black Lives Matter organizations?
Every time you got butt-blasted over the last 10 months whenever people pointed out their rioting activities.
So, you have seen my argument many times and have intentionally chosen to misunderstand it. Got it.
I’ll restate my argument on more time:
- I’m not a fan or supporter of Black Lives Matter.
- Black Lives Matter has not organized any riots.
Nothing was misstated. You got your tits in a wringer every time someone crapped on BLM for rioting. That's a hard fucking fact and your pathetic post hoc attempts to deflect from that don't change it.
Which is belied when you defend them from any and every criticism and agree with every single talking point they publish.
Which is demonstrably untrue. You are a lying piece of shit. And you are telling lies in the service of a Marxist organization. That's not something that people do unless they support the organization for whom they are telling lies.
Just like we can infer a lot from the fact that you deliberately lied about Brian Sicknick being beaten to death with a fire extinguisher for almost 2 months after the story had been debunked.
You of all people shouldn't be calling anyone a troll, White Knight.
BUT HE HAD BEEN ARRESTED FOR A GUN CRIME !!!!!!!
And for Aggravated Robbery. Great thing he was out of jail, huh?
'Course, Floyd should've still been in prison for his part in that home invasion.
What have I been saying?
Utah forcing phone manufacturers to install and activate porn filters on all phones has spread to Texas.
Goddamn mormons!
Asshole flag.
Reason totally misses the point again.....
The only person who put Wright's life in danger was Wright himself. It's no different than had Wright decided to drive 130 mph down a winding road or cut himself and jump into a shark tank.
He's dead because he violently resisted arrest and then attempted to flee the scene. That's it. Yes, the officer screwed up and thought she had a less then lethal weapon rather than a firearm.... but the only reason she had to reach for a taser in the first place was because Wright turned violent. He won the Darwin award for that.
Further, this was NOT about an air freshener, that is a red herring. Wright had outstanding arrest warrants, including one for illegal possession of a handgun. I'm as Pro 2nd Amendment as the next person, but you don't just get to decide whether or not you want to show up to court over a weapons charge. If you don't show up, you are brought in against your will and justifiably so.
This was not a LEO that got trigger happy because someone reached to pull out a license. This was a guy who violently resisted arrest and the officer was attempting to respond with entirely justified less than lethal force but grabbed her sidearm rather then her taser.
... and didn't know the difference.
You should watch the video before commenting. Or else if you watched it and call that "violently resisted", your head ain't on straight. He hit nobody, kicked nobody, threw no punches, choked nobody, but did stupidly try to get away.
What's wrong with your comment is that the death could have been avoided if police had merely employed time-tested safety procedures: 1. Don't try to handcuff somebody inches away from the open driver's door of their vehicle. 2. Don't leave the keys in the ignition and the engine running while trying to arrest the driver.
So we're going with the "once he escaped from police custody no force should have been used to apprehend him again until he got busted for his next violent crime" rule? Here's a clue for you dumbfuck: real life isn't a kid's game of tag.
New Mexico with its Libertarian spoiler vote leverage (LP vote% * electoral votes) of 80 just stopped cops from shooting grownups over plant leaves, twigs and seeds--regardless of color. Note the absence of looting mobs, dead and injured. Minnesota, with a 2016 Libertarian spoiler vote factor of 65 still lets politicians order cops to molest, mug and murder people over recreational leaves, twigs and seeds. Note the looting, arson, dead, injured and angry voters who only now realize that another 5% voting Libertarian could have repealed that violent law. Live and learn.
Just like George Floyd, Daunte Wright was a (street-level) drug dealer who had fallen behind in his payments to the cops who were protecting him. He had to die.
"Omigod - I think I shot him!" Pure theater, that. And poor theater, to boot.
Anyone who wants to cut this stuff WAY down will help STOP the drug war.
And the air-freshener war, too (air fresheners absorb the smells of drugs that are currently illegal).
The 20-year veteran who shot Daunte Wright is ready (and qualified) to retire.
That (and the money she was paid) is the reason why she took the fall. And maybe did the deed, too, though we'll never know for sure. She might have "lent" her gun to the dirty doer.
"Thought it was my Taser," my ass. Of course, her 2-decade sterling record helps with the pleas.
What garbage. Same as Green New Deal, Global Warming, the Holocaust, Lee Harvey Oswald, Muslim hijackers - all that stuff.
What did I say that was a lie?
You lied that I threatened you. All up and down this thread. I quoted myself up above and even revised my assessment. You continue to ignore those posts while replying to everything else.
you’d judge me on Tulpa’s impersonations, not myself. Your mind is made up.
You are a fucking idiot. The only reason I engaged with Zeb was to confirm that I was not convinced you were Shitnado that is KAR. I like Zeb. If you were Zeb, I would still like Zeb. He has proven willing to engage in honest discourse. His responses are on point and lack fallacies.
If you would concede that libertarianism is predicated on natural rights, which it is, or even put up the simplest of good faith arguments that it isn't, I would say, meh, and get over the full day of bullshit you just inflicted on the forum. I expect to be disappointed.
Hey, troll, I thought your natural rights argument was a fight you picked with me, not sarc. Here’s my argument:
https://reason.com/2021/04/13/daunte-wright-shooting-a-reminder-that-its-not-cops-who-should-fear-for-their-lives-during-traffic-stops/#comment-8854799
1) Trolls don't believe the shit they write, they write for attention and to distract from real arguments. I don't write anything I don't believe.
2) What argument?
Why are rights “natural”, as opposed to being something that tend not to occur naturally at all, and history shows people have had to fight for?
That is not an argument, it's a question. One that has been answered historically by Thomas Jefferson and James Madison among others. But here, I will take a stab at the first two.
Free speech is a natural right because it flows from freedom of thought. Even if you put a bullet in someone's head, you will never dislodge a thought.
Self defense is a natural right. If you doubt it, try to strangle a house cat without breaking its neck. When you get back from the hospital, let me know how denying the cat's free will went for you.
Your turn.
Mormons don't have rights.
Anyone who believes the nonsense they believe forfeits their rights.
Especially when they try to force their lifestyle on everyone.
So, you keep quoting my comment from a long time ago but did you ever stop to ask what I meant by the remark? All I meant is for most people throughout history nobody was going to give them rights — you have to fight for them.
Do you disagree with this observation?
If not, stop arguing when you don’t even disagree with me. And stop misrepresenting my comment as some kind of argument against Jefferson, Madison, or any other 18th century thinker.
That has nothing to do with whether rights are "natural" i.e., inherent. Someone can violate your rights and you may need to use force to assert them. That doesn't change the fact that you have them inherently. You don't believe in natural, i.e., inherent rights. You believe rights are privileges granted by a powerful central state and your worldview and "arguments" if you want to generously call them that reflects that. And now you're trying to backtrack because you've painted yourself into a corner.
So, you keep quoting my comment from a long time ago but did you ever stop to ask what I meant by the remark? All I meant is for most people throughout history nobody was going to give them rights — you have to fight for them.
1) February is not a long time ago. Which is also completely irrelevant as your opinion clearly has not evolved.
2) You posted that comment unsolicited and without explanation. Are you expecting this libertarian audience to believe that turd you dropped in the punchbowl is a misunderstanding?
3) 'That's not what I meant, you misunderstood' is a fallacy. Specifically, the Motte and Bailey, which I know has been explained to you previously. That you continue to engage in a deceptive form of argumentation after being informed that it is illogical and dishonest points to a) a lack of intelligence, b) willful ignorance, or c) an intent to deceive. If there is another explanation, please feel free to enlighten us.
4) Because "you have to fight for them" is not a valid justification for the statement you made. After 250 years, I should not have to instruct a fellow citizen that the Constitution does not grant rights, it limits the government. Should a citizen standing before a judge have to justify freedom of speech, or is the judge required to recognize it even in the absence of the argument? Should a citizen have to prove they were defending themselves, or are they innocent until proven guilty? That these rights are natural (i.e., inalienable) is an axiom of the Constitution which was stated outright in the Declaration.
I disagree with you. What you claim was your actual meaning is even more specious, as the natural existence of a right is a predicate to fighting for it.
I question your motivations and your intelligence in posting such drivel in a libertarian forum.
I question why a 'civilized libertarian' like sarcasmic would let it stand without comment.
Mormons lie all the time.
Just ignore Chuck. His opinions are fertilizer.
He worships a discredited perv god for christ fucking sake.
You're not a libertarian.
You're a fascist Mormon welfare queen.
Smear some more shit on yourself, fuckwad. I am sure the kids will all want to play with you if you just smear more shit.
No one cares what a perv worshipping welfare queen like you thinks.
If your religion is so important to you why not give a little lesson on what your church believes?
For those not familiar with LDS beliefs?
Or are you worried people will make fun of you because what you believe is god damn retarded?
" ... a one in 6.5 million chance ... ." Here's a recent "One in Six Million" Winner:,.
[Sorry for clicking the flag symbol. I thought it might lead to an "Edit" function.]
" ... one in six point five chance ... ", eh? Here's a very "Recent Winner" of those odds, "Sweetie": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH6bsr61vrw>,.
Good article that goes in depth about verifying signatures:
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2021/04/13/desantis-wants-voters-signatures-to-match-would-his-pass-the-test/
Sounds like signatures are a poor source of identifying information. Maybe we should use some other means of verifying the identities of voters? Oh wait, you oppose that too. Well shit I guess we'll just have to allow unlimited mail-in ballots with no identity verification whatsoever.
“Daunte Wright Shooting a Reminder That It's Not Cops Who Should Fear for Their Lives During Traffic Stops”. Tell that to the cop in New Mexico who was shot on camera a few days ago.
it helps to remember that before this cop shot him she saw an expired tag and BEFORE she exited her cop car SHE KNEW the driver had a warrant for a violent crime. cops can have a full dossier on you before they even come to a full stop.
How not to get your ass kicked by a cop:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uj0mtxXEGE8
So in a post BLM world...... cops should just leave their guns in their cars every time they do a traffic stop, or just not pull cars over for broken taillights.
Cops shot less than 20 unarmed blacks in 2018 0r 2019. If that was ALL during traffic stops, then I'd have very little to fear cops during traffic stops. Of course, that's not how Reason would present it. They remained completely blind to skyrocketing murder rates in big cities and ANY violence inflicted upon officers. This levl of slanted coverage belongs in Media Matters.
Earlier this year someone took off the catalytic converter off my car. Yes, you may have heard of that trend. I had not been carjacked in the 20 plus years that I lived in this country
In LA cops stopped giving out parking tickets for a period of time last year. Cars lined up outside of my apartment, well into the red zone, making it impossible to see oncoming traffic when you try to exit the gate. To the surprise of no one, two cars got into accidents trying to get out. Because no one in LA actually drives 45 mph on local streets, one of the cars was totaled. I actually heard the guy moan "help me help me". He died. He was black.
That's just a few experiences in my own life. I'm a person of color, so the notion that not having cops would be damaging to people like me would deflate Reason's narrative. And yet, every poll, crime stats, and DEVELOPING incidents confirm that their policy would be ruinous to us and society in general. Most black people want MORE cops. THEY will die the most when Reason gets their way.
How do writers here whine about not being able send their kids to school but also advocate for a society without police? It's tone deaf.
If you aren't supposed to be afraid of the cop, who are you supposed to fear. He has a gun, a taser, a badge, handcuffs, and a Kevlar vest. He's ready to do battle. I'm not.
When I was a practicing lawyer, I had a tiny bit of fear for judges. After all, the black robe gives them the right to find people in contempt.
As a smart lawyer once told me, a judge is God, until a court of review says he isn't.
If you get pulled over, you do what the officer says. You don't call your mother or your lawyer.
But Black Culture teaches black youth to fear the Police and to resist arrest.
The statistics and narrative is ridiculous. They need to break it down by where cops are assaulted and shot almost exclusively. 90% of violent crimes happen in a small part of the US and that is where most cops are shot or attacked. Give the statistics using just the number of the cops working in dangerous areas without including areas where a cop has not had to draw a weapon in 50 years where there is no violent crime.
Legal Translation Dubai
Oh great. Now he's spamming racist claptrap.
That's you. You wrote it as an agent provocateur.
SQRLSY One
April.12.2021 at 4:03 pm
I am personally friends of the family of Daunte Wright. They tell me that another unpublicized reason for the warrant for the arrest of Daunte Wright, is that he DARED to blow on a cheap plastic flute, without permission!
You lied and used the death to push your own politics.
And with your penchant for socking and the fact you chose a name that isn't a regular, one can infer you wrote that post to create a fake moral high ground for yourself.
Nobody wants explanations from a ranting lunatic.
Please do us a favor and go commit some traffic violations and violently resist arrest.
2 spaz-flags
Your tinfoil hat (AND your tinfoil HATE) are BOTH badly in need of re-calibration! Did YOU write it, Torrid-Mouth of hate?
"Jesus-killer! See details here!"
Are you being antisemitic again, Sqrls?
Gee, spaz is out early this morning; here's a flag, spaz
She is amplifying the narrative you dumb fuck. Youre just pathetic sarcasmic. You were never libertarian.
"You lied and used the death to push your own politics."
Can you prove that I am NOT personally friends of the family of Daunte Wright? Or the other item, either?
"My own politics"? JesseBahnFuhrer, are YOU in favor of needing to get permission to blow on a cheap plastic flute? If so, PLEASE self-deport to North Korea! Let us who treasure personal freedom, pursue freedom without your evil heckling and interference!
Got it. You, JesseAz, cannot discern between a lie and sarcasm.
Well, you can, but you pretend you cannot because of the usual JesseAz’ disingenuousness.
Dude is tight with dear abbey too. How could he not have tons of friends with a personality like that?
So I was right.
No refutations... Insults are the last resort of the utterly empty-headed.
Looks like it. He sure doesn't like having his silly little games exposed does he?
Oh right you're also that piece of shit who was libeling the dead guy. Fuck you're low.
You dont have any friends
You started with insults so nice admission about yourself.
Did Spaz respond to my comment? I flag those so quickly these days, I missed it. Maybe he could post it again 3 times? Because that is what crazy people do.
Only in the evil and racist mind of a person who automatically equates Jesus-killer with Jews.
Here is an erudite and well-documented web site...
http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ ...
Which specifically states...
“The Jews killed Jesus” say those of shallow understanding. A BETTER, more detailed understanding would be, “First we grew fish brains, and the instincts and emotions than went with them. Then ditto lizard brains, then monkeys, then apes, and human hunter-gatherer brains, instincts, and emotions. As culture-bearing, supposedly fully thinking beings, by now we should have made that post-hunter-gatherer mental, ethical, and moral leap. Jesus (and etc.) was (were) killed by those who couldn’t or wouldn’t make that final leap.”
The ethically advanced ones among us know that always immediately (in “standard operating mode”) taking away the other guy’s dignity doesn’t add to our dignity. The search for dignity is NOT generally a zero-sum game! Yet balanced against that, we do no one any favors when we refuse to criticize people who are wrong! Jesus called them vipers and sons of vipers!
Got any facts on links for us today? Or just more "nuh-uh! You!" blather?
And now you're upset that I made you look bad.
What’s truly crazy is he doesn’t even think it’s wrong to lie about something like that and was shocked when called out on it.
Ethical, wise, and benevolent people do have a tendency to make others look bad, yes!
You resent the hell out of the fact that many other people are flat-out, better, more honest people than you are, right? More “live and let live”, and WAAAY less authoritarian?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-love-and-war/201706/why-some-people-resent-do-gooders
From the conclusion to the above…
These findings suggest that we don’t need to downplay personal triumphs to avoid negative social consequences, as long as we make it clear that we don’t look down on others as a result.
SQRLSY back here now… So, I do NOT want you to feel BAD about YOU being an authoritarian asshole, and me NOT being one! PLEASE feel GOOD about you being an authoritarian asshole! You do NOT need to push me (or other REAL lovers of personal liberty) down, so that you can feel better about being an asshole! EVERYONE ADORES you for being that authoritarian asshole that you are, because, well, because you are YOU! FEEL that self-esteem, now!
That was shocking honestly. He behaves like a piece of trash every day, but shitting on a dead guy while his family was still grieving was a new level of disgusting for him.
And now you're getting even more upset that I made you look bad.
No. That's you Sqrls. You're the biggest authoritarian asshole here, and I guarantee you've never been a do-gooder.
Are the dead guy or his family to be blamed for utterly POWER PIG laws in this nation, like needing permission to blow on a cheap plastic flute? Did I blame that on the dead guy or his family?
Only an utter moron (or an evil liar) would parse it that way! Evil liar!
Holy shit now he's defending his libeling of a dead guy. So low.
Piss off Sqrlsy, you shitty troll.
Pick a sockpuppet and stick with it please SWRLSY.
*White knight's for his own sock*
You're not fooling anyone anymore, WK.
LOL. WK, the determiner of what is true or sarcasm. So unless you are sqrsly, you have as much information as I. that wasn't sarcasm, it fits almost zero definition of sarcasm. Do you know what sarcasm means?
Seriously, we all know you're the same person at this point White Blight, knock it off.
He's a shitposter. He's paid to disrupt and spam.
Oh, and you’re not a shitposter.
Oh Zebcasmic, give it up.
When have I ever shitposted, you paid troll? Do you even know what shitposting means?
"Nuh-ungh! You!"
Got any other Deep Thoughts today, brood-of-vipers-in-the-head?
"brood-of-vipers-in-the-head"
“Insults are the last resort of the utterly empty-headed”
LOL, you’re doing it now.
So you don't know what shitposting means. As expected of you.
They must assign farm team fifty-centers here. Too stupid to work WaPo or reddit.
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The only viper here is you, nutbag.
"Nuh-Ungh! You!"
Got any other stupid shit for us today, slave of the Evil One? Liar and ID theft? Who ALSO claims to be an Expert Christian Theologian?
Recommended reading for YOU, Mamma!
To understand evil better (and to see that it SURE doesn’t lead to blessedness or happiness), read M. Scott Peck, “People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil”, https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these people of the lie work in the lives of those around them. He presents, from vivid incidents encountered in his psychiatric practice, examples of evil in everyday life.
I'll be your friend, SQRLSY. I never understand a single word you say, but I'll help you drink your wine.
Joy to the fishies in the deep blue sea! Joy to you and me!
Does Der JesseBahnFuhrer know what honesty is?
Samefagging one of your socks as a friend. That's really sad.
You sure as fuck don't.
Anyone is an expert theologian compared to your pig-ignorant ass.
But Mother's doesn't shit post.
White Knight doesn't understand what "shit posting" means... or he does and is just trolling as usual.
Hi pussy
Hi KARen!
Haha. Speaking of sparkling personalities........ Have you made any righteous friends from the cool part of Idaho yet? You seem so desperate. 9th grade can be hard.
Haha. What a doosh.