Lance Armstrong vs. the New Honor Code
Should Americans be tougher on our celebrities—and ourselves? A leading anthropologist says yes.

Do people who have acted horribly in public life deserve a second chance, or does giving them a pass contribute to a decline in morality and standards that makes us all worse off?
I'm not talking about the extreme and obvious cases, like movie mogul Harvey Weinstein, who was sentenced to 23 years in prison on rape and assault convictions. And I'm not talking about people getting fired or pushed out of jobs because of random dumb posts, woke mobs, or years-old statements ripped out of context.
I'm talking more about public figures such as Lance Armstrong, who was stripped of his record seven Tour de France titles in 2012 after getting caught using banned substances for basically his entire professional career and lying about it. Should we let him and others like him back into the public spotlight when they don't really own their mistakes or try to repair the damage they've done to public trust and confidence? Overall, I think we're generally too quick to let bygones be bygones, with the predictable result that our trust in each other and our institutions is tanking.
Armstrong is working his way back into the spotlight after making a few public apologies that didn't really convince anyone. Last year, he was the subject of an ESPN documentary and he's currently the face of WEDŪ, an events and media company where he hosts a podcast that covered the 2019 Tour de France and raked in an estimated $1 million in revenue during the month-long event.
Cultural anthropologist and brand consultant Grant McCracken is a hard no on Armstrong. "Here's a guy who doped, who insisted that he didn't dope, and accused his competitors of doping," says McCracken, who has taught at Harvard and MIT and worked with Netflix, Google, and Kanye West. "We are open-hearted Americans, we like to think that all people should be forgiven. People make mistakes. It's always the second act in American culture. I'm not sure there should be a second act. I think once you've done something as bad as that you're done, you're out."
His new book is The New Honor Code: A Simple Plan for Raising Our Standards and Restoring Our Good Names and I interviewed him at length for a podcast (listen here). Honor, or the expectation that we'll hold ourselves and others to high standards, has gone missing in too much of our lives, he argues. We often let celebrities and public figures get away with what he calls monstrous behavior partly because we view them as entertainment and partly because we project ourselves onto them and don't want to judge ourselves too harshly. In his book, he points out that even some Armstrong critics argued that virtually everyone in cycling used performance-enhancing drugs and some defenders of Weinstein minimized his assaults by pointing to the long history of Hollywood's casting couch.
Lowering our standards and explaining away bad people by claiming that everyone breaks the rules leads to lower and lower standards for our own personal behavior in turn. In a system where everyone cheats and gets away with misdeeds, McCracken says, only a fool actually plays by the rules, especially when no one is looking.
McCracken is no moral scold and he doesn't always call for the figurative equivalent of the death penalty for malefactors. But he says too often people don't seem to pay any serious price for bad behavior. He writes about the 2016 scandal involving the Harvard men's soccer team, some of whom created a spreadsheet ranking the sexual desirability of members of the women's team in graphic detail and then violating the school's honor code by lying about it when it was first discovered. The players involved got away with publishing an unsigned apology in the student paper and Harvard's then-president and dean of students also let it all slide. "When you look at the details and you don't look at the damage done by this behavior—there's a detailed account of how one young woman reacted psychologically—it's horrifying," says McCracken. "These guys regard themselves as above reproach, suggesting that some larger point has to be made here. They have to understand what they did and the cost of what they did."
McCracken is the first to admit that there isn't a clearly objective measure of whether we're less honorable than we were 25 or 50 years ago, but I think he's fundamentally right that we tolerate a huge amount of absolutely rotten behavior that should be called out for what it is. If our response to lying, cheating, and acting despicably is simply a collective shrug, we can't be surprised when we get more of the same.
How might we restore honor to our culture? McCracken says that a positive honor culture—one which expects individuals to uphold standards of behavior even when they conflict with personal desire or gain—still exists in the military. He acknowledges that bad behavior still exists in the armed forces but says it's rarely excused on the grounds that everyone does it. "Nobody in the military ever says, 'Well, everybody goes AWOL, or everybody steals stuff, or misuses their power,'" he says. "I think you get more good behavior when there is bad behavior that's more culpable, that's more punishable."
McCracken believes that we must also do more to recognize and celebrate the people in our community who do all sorts of things that make our lives better. He writes about Bob, his neighbor in a small town in Connecticut, who has quietly helped build Little League fields, volunteers at local hospitals, and is active in his church. "This guy does all this stuff," says McCracken. "He's completely unheralded. Nobody in my community has any clue of what he does. I thought, we need more Bobs. There are about five Bobs in my community. If you created a reputation economy and you found some way of giving people credit for these accomplishments, you might be able to inspire 30 Bobs to behave in this manner. And all boats would rise with that tide."
We live in an era where trust and confidence in government, business, and religious and charitable institutions are at or near historic lows and continue to decline. The past year's experiences with police, politics, pandemics, and riots aren't going to turn that trend around anytime soon. While endless—and often insane—examples of cancel culture make it clear that none of us wants to live in a world of one strike and you're out, we'd do well as a society to think seriously about McCracken's call for a new honor code.
We'll always be adjudicating what we consider bad behavior and the appropriate social response on a case-by-case basis, but it's time to hold public figures and ourselves accountable for making the world a better place.
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First?!
Gillespie, not so first.
CLACLALs are usually stalking the "Latest" tab in an effort to put their Trump worshiping garbage up first.
If by "CLACLALs", you mean FoE.
FoE posts Trump worshipping garbage?
Nope, he's too smart and too much of a smart ass to worship a politician. The closest he gets is making light of serious situations.
Then you should re-read this thread dumbfuck.
Love you, too, R.
CLACLALs are usually stalking the “Latest” tab in an effort to put their Trump worshiping garbage up first.
The White Knight II: The White Knight Rises!
February.20.2021 at 2:26 pm
If by “CLACLALs”, you mean FoE.
Was this to complicated for you Dee?
Let it go, R.
I thought you always admitted when you say something stupid?
Let it go, R.
I’ll admit I’m wrong about something or argue when I’m not wrong, but what I thought I could leave unstated is it doesn’t apply to totally trivial situations.
HO2
God damn, this is how dumb you actually are. Being 12 explains a lot though.
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An article so bad, it had to be printed twice.
You can say that again.
lulz
This is also far more important than a president calling genocide a cultural norm.
Which president said that?
Was he referring to the situation in China now, or to the Armenian genocide by the Turks a century ago?
Either way, cultural norm my ass
Our new Emperor, Zhou Bai Den, said so on his Chinese News Network town hall and struggle session.
Which in his case, apparently means struggling to put together a coherent sentence.
Where are the squirrels when you need them?
Don’t ever fuck with squirrels........
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w-YQwMOxfk
That's just nuts.
On Friday’s show, Laura Ingraham interviewed Stanford’s Jay Bhattacharya and Harvard’s Martin Kulldorf, who explained how/why natural herd immunity has been occurring in the US for the past several many, and that vaccines will speed up herd immunity in the US during the next several months.
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6233900913001?playlist_id=5622526903001#sp=show-clips
This is one of the best interviews about covid and herd immunity that reveals some of Anthony Fauci’s many lies (that should have gotten him fired 9 months ago).
"If two masks are better than one, why aren't they built that way in the first place..." -Bret Weinstein.
"Why isn't the government giving everyone a free military-grade gas mask and filters?"--Titania McGrath's next prophetic tweet.
Why won't Reason acknowledge that an estimated 40% of Americans are immune to covid due to past infection, and that another 10% of Americans are now immune due to vaccines?
This is very good news for America, but Fauci, Biden and left wing media propagandists have gone to great lengths to dupe Americans to believe that covid reinfection is very common (even though only 5 Americans have been known to have reinfection) and that the ONLY way to achieve herd immunity is by vaccinating everyone.
While the vast majority of 183 counties that have surpassed a 13% covid case rate (and the 150+ counties with a covid case rate of 11% - 13%) are sparsely populated rural Red counties (which is likely why left wing media propagandists on the east and west coasts haven’t reported it), increasingly more highly populated urban and suburban counties also appear close to achieving natural herd immunity, which vaccines have/will hasten.
Counties with populations >150K with high covid case rates are:
Case Rate – County, St – Population
17.0% – Yuma, AZ – 195K
15.6% – Lubbock, TX – 278K
15.4% – Webb, TX – 250K (Larado)
14.7% – Imperial, CA – 174K
14.4% – Miami-Dade, FL – 2,716K
14.3% – El Paso, TX – 622K
14.3% – Kings, CA – 152K
14.2% – Utah, UT – 516K (Provo)
13.1% – Muskogee, OK – 189K
13.0% – San Bernardino, CA – 2,035K
12.6% – Providence, RI – 626K
12.3% – Brown, WI – 248K (Green Bay)
12.2% – Elkhart, IN – 197K
11.8% – Salt Lake, UT – 1,029K
11.6% – Los Angeles, CA – 10,040K
11.6% – Racine, WI – 195K
11.5% – Davidson, TN – 626K (Nashville)
11.4% – Richland, NY – 474K (Staten Island)
11.4% – Rockland, NY – 325K (NYC suburb)
11.3% – Maricopa, AZ – 4,485K (Phoenix)
11.2% – Milwaukee, WI – 947K
11.2% – Kern, CA – 900K (Bakersfield)
11.1% – Douglas, NE – 517K (Omaha)
11.0% – Waukesha, WI – 389K (Milwaukee suburb)
11.0% – Passaic, NJ – 501K (Paterson)
States with the highest covid case rates, and CDC estimated infection rates (i.e. 4.6 times the case rate) are:
Case Rate – State (CDC Estimated Infection Rate)
13.0% – North Dakota (59.8%)
12.5% – South Dakota (57.7%)
11.6% – Rhode Island (53.5%)
11.4% – Utah (52.4%)
11.4% – Iowa (52.3%)
11.2% – Tennessee (51.4%)
11.0% – Arizona (50.8%)
10.5% – Oklahoma (48.5%)
10.5% – Wisconsin (48.3%)
10.4% – Arkansas (48.0%)
10.3% – Nebraska (47.2%)
10.1% – Kansas (46.3%)
9.8% – Alabama (45.2%)
9.7% – Mississippi (44.8%)
9.7% – Indiana (44.6%)
9.7% - South Carolina (44.5%)
9.5% - Idaho (43.5%)
9.4% - Nevada (43.4%)
9.3% - Wyoming (42.7%)
9.2% - Montana (42.3%)
Since an additional 6% - 9% of residents of these states have become immune via covid vaccines, the immunity rate is nearly the two thirds needed for herd immunity.
To date, 28.616 million Americans (8.65%) had tested positive for covid. Since CDC estimates 4.6 times more Americans have been infected with covid (than have tested positive), about 131.6 million Americans (39.77%) have been infected with covid.
And since just 6 cases of covid reinfection have been identified in the US (and just 52 worldwide), virtually all of the estimated 131.6 million Americans previously infected with covid remain immune from reinfection.
But for many months, Anthony Fauci has lied about immunity conferred by past covid infection (because Fauci is campaigning to vaccinate all Americans twice, including those already immune due to past infection). On this past Sunday’s NBC News (between 5 and 6 minutes on the video at
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/lot-things-open-schools-vaccinating-teachers-fauci/story?id=75883336
Fauci deceitfully and falsely claimed “Prior infection doesn’t protect you against reinfection.”
Also according to the CDC, 59.59 million Americans (18.0%) have received a covid vaccine. But since about 40% of vaccine recipients were already immune (due to previous infection), and since the vaccines are about 90% effective, about 9.7% of Americans have become immune by vaccines (.18 x .6 x .9 = .097).
Since an estimated 39.77% of Americans are immune due to past infection, and since an additional 9.7% are now immune due to vaccines, an estimated 49.5% of all Americans are now immune from covid.
During the next several days, over half of Americans will become immune from covid (per CDC estimate).
Since herd immunity occurs when/after about two-thirds of a population has been infected or vaccinated, counties and states with a covid case rates above 10% are now experiencing sharp declines in new cases due to herd immunity.
The sixth American (out of 331 million) has been found to have been reinfected (a second time) with covid, which means the risk of covid reinfection is .00001%.
https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/08/covid-19-reinfection-tracker/
Meanwhile, Anthony Fauci continues lying to Americans.
But none of the hundreds/thousands of left wing media propagandists who lied about and demonized Trump have reported this fact (because doing so will expose the lies of Biden, Fauci, CDC, FDA, Big Pharma, Big Medicine and left wing media propagandists).
Bird Flu just jumped to humans for the first time.... When COVID-19 fades away there will be some other threat....
Yup. Kamala24.
So, was the women's soccer player who had a psychological breakdown one of the ones ranked highly, or poorly?
Losing to a JV high school team would cause any world athlete to lose it.
You need to ask? The answer has to be poorly. Have you ever met any women?
I honestly wonder if Mr. Gillespie is even living in the modern era, he seems stuck in the 1990s with constant stories about people no one cares about and haven't for decades (like Lou Reed)
I mean, we get two stories about Lance Armstrong, a figure relevant (as relevant as a bicycle rider can be) in the 2000s, yet no stories on Ashli Babbitt. You'd think national police murdering an unarmed protester would draw the attention of at least someone at supposed libertarian magazine, but nope
The good news is we will finally get stories about the Deep State Coup in the 2040s
The way we’re going, nobody will be able to publish anything about it by 2040.
This is an amazing username. Infinite kudos to you.
It's a rare molecule, which insists its right until it reaches critical mass, and then self-annihilates.
Ha!
From yesterday's Wall St Journal
We’ll Have Herd Immunity by April
Covid cases have dropped 77% in six weeks. Experts should level with the public about the good news.
By Dr. Marty Makary
https://www.wsj.com/articles/well-have-herd-immunity-by-april-11613669731
Amid the dire Covid warnings, one crucial fact has been largely ignored: Cases are down 77% over the past six weeks. If a medication slashed cases by 77%, we’d call it a miracle pill. Why is the number of cases plummeting much faster than experts predicted?
In large part because natural immunity from prior infection is far more common than can be measured by testing. Testing has been capturing only from 10% to 25% of infections, depending on when during the pandemic someone got the virus. Applying a time-weighted case capture average of 1 in 6.5 to the cumulative 28 million confirmed cases would mean about 55% of Americans have natural immunity.
Now add people getting vaccinated. As of this week, 15% of Americans have received the vaccine, and the figure is rising fast. Former Food and Drug Commissioner Scott Gottlieb estimates 250 million doses will have been delivered to some 150 million people by the end of March.
There is reason to think the country is racing toward an extremely low level of infection. As more people have been infected, most of whom have mild or no symptoms, there are fewer Americans left to be infected. At the current trajectory, I expect Covid will be mostly gone by April, allowing Americans to resume normal life.
Antibody studies almost certainly underestimate natural immunity. Antibody testing doesn’t capture antigen-specific T-cells, which develop “memory” once they are activated by the virus. Survivors of the 1918 Spanish flu were found in 2008—90 years later—to have memory cells still able to produce neutralizing antibodies.
Researchers at Sweden’s Karolinska Institute found that the percentage of people mounting a T-cell response after mild or asymptomatic Covid-19 infection consistently exceeded the percentage with detectable antibodies. T-cell immunity was even present in people who were exposed to infected family members but never developed symptoms. A group of U.K. scientists in September pointed out that the medical community may be under-appreciating the prevalence of immunity from activated T-cells.
Covid-19 deaths in the U.S. would also suggest much broader immunity than recognized. About 1 in 600 Americans has died of Covid-19, which translates to a population fatality rate of about 0.15%. The Covid-19 infection fatality rate is about 0.23%. These numbers indicate that roughly two-thirds of the U.S. population has had the infection.
cont.
In my own conversations with medical experts, I have noticed that they too often dismiss natural immunity, arguing that we don’t have data. The data certainly doesn’t fit the classic randomized-controlled-trial model of the old-guard medical establishment. There’s no control group. But the observational data is compelling.
I have argued for months that we could save more American lives if those with prior Covid-19 infection forgo vaccines until all vulnerable seniors get their first dose. Several studies demonstrate that natural immunity should protect those who had Covid-19 until more vaccines are available. Half my friends in the medical community told me: Good idea. The other half said there isn’t enough data on natural immunity, despite the fact that reinfections have occurred in less than 1% of people—and when they do occur, the cases are mild.
But the consistent and rapid decline in daily cases since Jan. 8 can be explained only by natural immunity. Behavior didn’t suddenly improve over the holidays; Americans traveled more over Christmas than they had since March. Vaccines also don’t explain the steep decline in January. Vaccination rates were low and they take weeks to kick in.
My prediction that Covid-19 will be mostly gone by April is based on laboratory data, mathematical data, published literature and conversations with experts. But it’s also based on direct observation of how hard testing has been to get, especially for the poor. If you live in a wealthy community where worried people are vigilant about getting tested, you might think that most infections are captured by testing. But if you have seen the many barriers to testing for low-income Americans, you might think that very few infections have been captured at testing centers. Keep in mind that most infections are asymptomatic, which still triggers natural immunity.
Many experts, along with politicians and journalists, are afraid to talk about herd immunity. The term has political overtones because some suggested the U.S. simply let Covid rip to achieve herd immunity. That was a reckless idea. But herd immunity is the inevitable result of viral spread and vaccination. When the chain of virus transmission has been broken in multiple places, it’s harder for it to spread—and that includes the new strains.
Herd immunity has been well-documented in the Brazilian city of Manaus, where researchers in the Lancet reported the prevalence of prior Covid-19 infection to be 76%, resulting in a significant slowing of the infection. Doctors are watching a new strain that threatens to evade prior immunity. But countries where new variants have emerged, such as the U.K., South Africa and Brazil, are also seeing significant declines in daily new cases. The risk of new variants mutating around the prior vaccinated or natural immunity should be a reminder that Covid-19 will persist for decades after the pandemic is over. It should also instill a sense of urgency to develop, authorize and administer a vaccine targeted to new variants.
Some medical experts privately agreed with my prediction that there may be very little Covid-19 by April but suggested that I not to talk publicly about herd immunity because people might become complacent and fail to take precautions or might decline the vaccine. But scientists shouldn’t try to manipulate the public by hiding the truth. As we encourage everyone to get a vaccine, we also need to reopen schools and society to limit the damage of closures and prolonged isolation. Contingency planning for an open economy by April can deliver hope to those in despair and to those who have made large personal sacrifices.
Dr. Makary is a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine and Bloomberg School of Public Health, chief medical adviser to Sesame Care, and author of “The Price We Pay.”
Worldometers.info (whose projected new covid infections I consider close to reality, but not their worst case estimates) revised its projections today.
They now project the following 26 states will continue experiencing huge declines in new covid infections during the next several months, towards attaining herd immunity.
AL, AK, AZ, AR, CO, DC, ID, IN, IA, KS, LA, MN, MS, MT, NE, NV, NM, ND, OH, OK, SD, WI, TN, UT, WV, WY.
They now project the following 10 states will continue experiencing significant declines in new covid infections during the next several months, towards attaining herd immunity.
DE, GA, KY, MO, NH, NC, PA, RI, SC, VA.
They now project the following 8 states will see experience little or no decline in covid infections in the next several months.
CT, HI, IL, ME, MA, NJ, TX, WA.
Most notably, they now project the following 7 states will experience increases in new covid infections during the next several months. CA, FL, MD, MI, NY, OR, VT.
Interestingly, Blue states comprise 13 of the 15 states projected to have small declines or increases in new covid infections during the next several months, while Florida and Texas are the only Red states.
Looks like the Blue state lockdowns and mask mandates achieved their goal, which was to delay new infections, but which also delayed the arrival of herd immunity in their states.
Good news, entire school board who mocked parents resigns.
turns out Zoom is a bit like twitter: a pipe bomb factory for retards where they hand out free cigarettes and matches.
At least none of them were videoed polishing their rocket.
Good thing, then Reason would have to defend them.
Link to Reason defending Toobin?
You're disgusting.
Link to you ever making a non sycophantic point?
HO2
I'll be honest, that board was 100% right about the parents.
If parents weren't looking for glorified babysitters they'd be homeschooling or putting their kids in private education.
Youbg Men 18-22 commented on the sexual desirability of women?!? Someone give me some pearls I can clutch and a fainting couch
Heterosexual male sexuality is icky and problematic.
File a complaint with the city of Seattle.
If we're really arguing about whether a sports person should be canceled for doping, that's just proof that civilization has peaked. It's not going to get any better (or more 'honorable') and it's time to think about retirement.
How about be harder on the Marxians in academia, those apologists for 100 million murders last century?
they mean well.
but capitalism leads to inequality.
you can't be unequal if you're all dead.
Lenin and Mao beg to differ.
No, it was their main policy to kill a lot of people.
I'm not sure there should be a second act. I think once you've done something as bad as that you're done, you're out."
This is just cancel culture writ large. And I'd bet he takes a completely different view on justice reform.
If you created a reputation economy and you found some way of giving people credit for these accomplishments, you might be able to inspire 30 Bobs to behave in this manner.
You know what other country has social credit scores?
Two Armstrong articles? How about forgiving Trump?
Forgiving Trump for?
You tell us, Comrade Politruk.
For nearly sacking the Capitol by sending an unarmed mob to kidnap Congressmen and install himself as dictator for life!
Still waiting on that unity...
Still waiting, and the future does not look promising.
"Should Americans be tougher on our celebrities—and ourselves? A leading anthropologist says yes."
Perhaps the correct answer is to pay a lot less attention to the "celebrities" and take worrying more about keeping our own shit together.
strike the word "take" between "and" and "worrying".
Is this the transcript? Why'ncha just append it to the other entry? More clicks?
Starts at the top with the Federal Govt and the Federal Reserve. Stop deficit spending and debasing the currency...you will be surprised how fast culturally our attitude to honesty, integrity and hard work change. Cultural Marxism and Keynsian economics are the biggest threat to a "fair and honest" society...lets cancel the Fed, all Federal Depts created after 1960, no govt backstopping of any industry or sector and stop the undeclared wars...a good start to an ethical society.
How come libertarians haven't yet logically deduced that performance enhancement drugs is rampant in top-tier athletes? If PEDs work and Olympians are truly natural, you would have two separate types of athletes: a class of athletes that try to break world records and a class of athletes that try to win medals. Since we don't have these two separate classes this leaves you with two options: PEDs don't enhance shit or PEDs do work and they are simply rampant in top tier athletics, I'd assume the latter.
Take weightlifting for example, Leonid Taranenko clean & jerked 266kg at a meet in 1988, no one has EVER Clean & Jerked more than that, if you claim he was natural leading to the 266kg you're an idiot, yet 2 years later he was able to compete in the Olympics. Another example is Ilya Ilyin who was stripped of his gold medals in 2016 due to doping violations when they retested his 2008 and 2012 samples. If you are a logical person this should make it LESS believable that Olympic winners are truly natural, not MORE. If it's possible to keep it secret for 10 years it's also possible to keep it secret for a lifetime. Getting "caught" is politics. It's such a no-brainer. Lance took as much drugs as the one who got silver in the same Tour de France.
Grant McCracken rakes millions from the tax payer for writing worthless books, his very livelihood isn't "honorable" according to my "honor code", so where do we go from here?
Allow motorcycles to be used in the Tour de France.
https://babylonbee.com/news/motorcycle-that-identifies-as-bicycle-sets-world-cycling-record
If everyone was doping as much as Lance Armstrong how come he won every race? Wouldn't logic dictate he'd lose some if everyone were doping?
Lance Armstrong losing titles and no longer being able to compete after doping scandal is a fair and relevant punishment for the wrong he committed against the sport. Being forbidden from public life for all eternity is a widely out of proportion punishment, that really reveals more about the person demanding it than it does about our culture.
No one should be forbidden from public life. If someone is interested in hearing them, they have a right to listen if the person wants to speak. You've got no business inserting yourself between people.
Also, the only person who harmed those overly delicate women at Harvard are the people who took a private list and published it for everyone to see. There was no underlying crime here. These boys weren't politicians. Busybodied assholes who invaded their privacy with the intent of causing these boys and women harm (remember no harm was caused except the publicly publishing a private list) should be the ones groveling apologies.
Kim Kardashian Files For Divorce From Kanye West
Totally racist, right?
No because Kanye West isn't black. He ran against Biden.
Nice.
I'm a little confused here. Reason spent a year trying to rehabilitate a corrupt war mongering drug warrior who spent 40 years pissing on anything resembling libertarianism. They forgave Biden but can't forgive the bicycle guy. Baffling.
Say what you want about Lance Armstrong, but NO one can question his testicular fortitude!
lol
Honor code? What is this "honor code" of which you speak? Only places like West Point, Annapolis, and the USAF Academy need to have an honor code, and they have all revised theirs, as follows:
"We don't smoke, drink, chew or screw,
but we will dance with girls that do."
Why should I give a shit what some anthropologist thinks? The guy practically started bawling his eyes out when he was talking about Lance doping. What a fucking pussy. EVERYONE dopes.