Capitol Riot

Trump's Belated Message of Peace and Unity Makes You Wonder Where This President Has Been the Last Four Years

Something like Wednesday evening's soothing remarks could have made a real difference on the day of the Capitol riot.

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Apparently it took two impeachments to make Donald Trump presidential. Watching the five-minute message of peace and unity that the White House released this evening, many Americans will be inclined to wonder: Where has this guy been for the last four years, and especially last week?

"The incursion of the U.S. Capitol struck at the very heart of our republic," Trump says. "It angered and appalled millions of Americans across the political spectrum. I unequivocally condemn the violence that we saw last week."

Then Trump adds these words, which might have had a calming influence had they been spoken on the day the Capitol was invaded by hundreds of irate Trump supporters:

Violence and vandalism have absolutely no place in our country and no place in our movement. Making America great again has always been about defending the rule of law, supporting the men and women of law enforcement, and upholding our nation's most sacred traditions and values. Violence goes against everything I believe in and everything our movement stands for.

No true supporter of mine could ever endorse political violence. No true supporter of mine could ever disrespect law enforcement or our great American flag. No true supporter of mine could ever threaten or harass their fellow Americans. If you do any of these things, you are not supporting our movement. You are attacking it, and you are attacking our country.

Looking forward, Trump urges everyone who participates in upcoming demonstrations on his behalf to do so peacefully. "Every American deserves to have their voice heard in a peaceful and respectful way," he says. "That is your First Amendment right. But I cannot emphasize [enough] that there must be no violence, no lawbreaking, and no vandalism of any kind."

Trump being Trump, he cannot resist an allusion to left-wing violence, along with criticism of "the unprecedented assault on free speech" epitomized by his own eviction from Twitter and Facebook. But he is evenhanded in his prescriptions.

"We have seen too many riots, too many mobs, too many acts of intimidation and destruction," Trump says. "It must stop. Whether you are on the right or on the left, a Democrat or Republican, there is never a justification for violence. No excuses, no exceptions. America is a nation of laws. Those who engaged in the attacks last week will be brought to justice. Now I am asking everyone who has ever believed in our agenda to be thinking of ways to ease tensions, calm tempers, and help to promote peace in our country."

Toward that end:

What is needed now is for us to listen to one another, not to silence one another. All of us can choose by our actions to rise above the rancor and find common ground and shared purpose….

I am calling on all Americans to overcome the passions of the moment and join together. As one American people, let us choose to move forward united for the good of our families, our communities, and our country.

It's a good speech, one Trump surely did not write but nevertheless delivers with something resembling conviction. But it's a bit late.

Just before the deadly riot last week, the same president who now wants Americans to "rise above the rancor," "overcome the passions of the moment," and "find common ground" was riling up thousands of devoted followers who had come to Washington, D.C., at his behest to stop President-elect Joe Biden from taking office. "They rigged an election," he declared at a rally that began an hour before a joint session of Congress convened to affirm Biden's victory. "All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical-left Democrats, which is what they're doing, and stolen by the fake news media….We will never give up. We will never concede….Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore….We will stop the steal."

Trump made the stakes clear. "We're going to have somebody in there that should not be in there," he said, "and our country will be destroyed. And we're not going to stand for that." He urged his supporters to "be strong" and "fight like hell" against "this egregious assault on our democracy," then sent them to the Capitol on a hopeless mission to overturn the election results by "peacefully and patriotically" demanding that Congress keep him in office.

The results were predictable. But just yesterday, Trump was still insisting that his remarks were "totally appropriate." And even tonight, after he was impeached mainly because of that reckless speech, he acknowledged no connection between the "rancor" he decries and the two months he spent whipping his followers into a frenzy with wild claims of a stolen election and wacky conspiracy theories.

Even after the protest turned violent, Trump took the time to slam Vice President Mike Pence on Twitter for lacking "the courage" to subvert the Constitution by unilaterally rejecting electoral votes for Biden. About 20 minutes after the riot started, Trump urged his supporters to "stay peaceful." Half an hour later, he reiterated that message: "I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order—respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue."

Later that day, Trump recorded a one-minute video urging the protesters to "go home now," saying "we have to have peace." At the same time, he continued to feed the imaginary grievances that motivated the riot. "I know your pain," he said. "I know your hurt. We had an election that was stolen from us." He closed with this decidedly mixed message: "This was a fraudulent election, but we can't play into the hands of these people. We have to have peace. We love you. You're very special. You see the way others are treated that are so bad and so evil, but go home and go home in peace."

A less petty, less vindictive, less impulsive, more rational, more responsible, and more gracious man might have delivered something like tonight's soothing remarks on the day they could have made a real difference. But with such a man in the White House, there would have been no need for them.

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  1. America’s obsession with guilt by association applies to all Americans and Trump is not exempt.

    1. In your case it’s not ‘guilt by association’; it’s recognized, personal guilt, lefty shit.

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            1. Trump’s Belated Message of Peace and Unity Makes You Wonder Where This President Has Been the Last Four Years
              Something like Wednesday evening’s soothing remarks could have made a real difference on the day of the Capitol riot.

              Jacob, "Sullen Dick" is apparently confused about what a "rally" is. Seem's Jacob, sullen dick's ideal rally is where Trump makes defeatist comments and discussion terms of surrender and compromise, both here at the end of his term, at the beginning, and throughout. More TDS from sullen dick.

              Apparently it took two impeachments to make Donald Trump presidential.

              Trump doesn't care about the first impeachment. Trump doesn't care about the second impeachment. And neither do those that voted for him. The democrats have made impeachment a political statement. Not a means of removing the president. So no. Nobody fucking cares. And Donald Trump has always been presidential. If Sullen Dick, thinks "presidential" means being soft spoken, politically correct, and compromising with a smile, then it's fitting that his chosen candidate for president, never win. Ever.

              Trump made the stakes clear. “We’re going to have somebody in there that should not be in there,” he said, “and our country will be destroyed.

              This is true. Biden will destroy this country. His proposed policy is nothing short of extremely radical beyond anything ever proposed. Even schumer and many dem's have said, "NOTHING IS OFF THE TABLE." And what the fuck does that mean? It means they are looking to win at all costs. By any means necessary. That's what it means. And Jacob, "Sullen Dick" can't get it through his permafried drug induced IQ reduction.

              1. The results were predictable.

                No. The capitol hill riot was not predictable. At all. Total speculation from the Sullen Dick. If they were "predictable" then the senators would have already evacuated. Nope. Sullen Dick's assertion is antithetical to reality. It's just more TDS.

                1. Even after the protest turned violent, Trump took the time to slam Vice President Mike Pence on Twitter for lacking “the courage” to subvert the Constitution by unilaterally rejecting electoral votes for Biden.

                  Nope! So Jacob, Sullen Dick gets it majorly wrong again. NO, it isn’t about Pence unilaterally rejecting electoral votes. Wrong. No. Certified electoral votes must be counted – per the constitution. No buts. Pence has no authority to reject them. Pence should have rejected non-certified electoral votes from states in dispute regarding the election. He should have done that. He isn’t determining the result for them. He isn’t overturning them. He isn’t choosing Biden or choosing Trump. He is simply rejecting them back to the states, so they can formally provide which slate of electors have been officially chosen in the manner the state legislature has provided (straight the fuck right out of the constitution), as 6 states were currently in dispute at that time.

                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHMsnRFX3DI&t=1s

                  But no. Like almost all republicans. When we needed Pence, his spine disappeared, and he went limp. The democrats would have ruthlessly fought for it. Because that’s what they do. They are fighters. They are ruthless. They have no problem ignoring hundreds of riots across the nation for an entire year, while 50 people were killed, and a billion dollars of damage was incurred. They have no problem when democrats storm the oregon state capitol. But when republicans storm the national capitol then perform antics (like sitting in representatives chairs and taking selfies, then it’s called “insurrection.” And that’s because democrats are aggressive and ruthless. Which is why people like Trump. He is aggressive and ruthless. Like democrats. But diametrically opposed, ideologically. And pence was a giant disappointment. For his lack of sacrifice, he is likely gone. The voters are done with him. As well they should be.

                  1. About 20 minutes after the riot started, Trump urged his supporters to “stay peaceful.” Half an hour later, he reiterated that message: “I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order—respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue.”

                    More the reason impeachment is absurd. More evidence Jacob, Sullen Dick, has TDS.

                    1. A less petty, less vindictive, less impulsive, more rational, more responsible, and more gracious man might have delivered something like tonight’s soothing remarks on the day they could have made a real difference. But with such a man in the White House, there would have been no need for them.

                      Well yeah! Sure. He could have conceded the election in 2016 before all the states were counted too, and then given a nice speech of solidarity with democrats and explain how we have to embrace their radicalism with unity. Jacob, Sullen Dick, isn't satisfied with Trump, unless he is conceding, whatever the topic is. Which is why TDS laden Sullen Dick can go fuck himself to death.

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                    4. Exactly! They rushed it hoping McConnell would call an Emergency Session to get Trump out before his term ended! Not happening! Trump has ALWAYS called for law and order! The leftists just don’t know what that is so it is foreign to them! Also they are finding out what we already knew before the event even happened! ANTIFA/BLM were there dressed as Trump supporters to start riots and break in the Capitol! Another reason Pelosi RUSHED Impeachment! There was even a CNN person that stormed the Capitol with ANTIFA/BLM/Insurgent USA. Waiting for them to try and explain that along with having another one on lying to people since HE was an instigator as well! Some people on the left are just blinded by the false information they have been getting from fake media. They do not want to find out the truth because it is untenable to the narrative they are used to! Sad little mushrooms!

        2. Wearenotperfect I wouldn’t count on that. Got nothing is not the correct way to describe the current constellation.

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  2. “Trump being Trump, he cannot resist an allusion to left-wing violence, along with criticism of “the unprecedented assault on free speech”

    Sullum being Sullum cannot help pretending that far worse left-wing violence, along with an unprecedented assault on free speech exist.

    You’re a bigger demagogue than Trump ever was, Jacob.

    1. Relying on logical fallacies to make a point is always bad form. It is right of Sullum to highlight this, and wrong of you to repeat the same fallacy.

      1. What’s the fallacy? There’s a pretty good “no true Scotsman” in there, but what else?
        It was a speech, i.e. rhetoric. It may not connect perfectly logically, but mentioning the left-wing rioting that has been happening for months is appropriate in the present circumstance. You listen to the news and you would think that last week was the first case of political violence we’d seen in decades.

        1. The red herring, or “whataboutism,” used to deflect listeners away from the relevant topic. If this was the first time Trump had spoken about politically motivated violence then I could see your point, but Trump has addressed the left-wing rioting plenty of times on other occasions. Mentioning it here when it is so obviously unrelated to the current issue was inappropriate.

          1. God damn. Retards are still throwing out whataboutism incorrectly in order to defend their hypocrisy. The people who said the BLM riots were bad also said the capitol violence are bad. It isnt whataboutism. They aren’t defending their defense of violence. They are pointing out youre a hypocrite. Trump denounced both sets if violence. Something democrats and lefty shits like you have not done.

            1. Yeah, somehow “whataboutism” has been stretched beyond all recognition—it doesn’t invalidate any and all attempt to introduce historical context and contributing factors. It isn’t a shield against legitimate charges of hypocrisy. It’s not justification for memory-holing everything that happened “before.”

              It’s mostly just the term du jour for “two wrongs don’t make a right” with a splash of “that’s completely irrelevant.”

              As much as the Tonys of the world want to pretend “mostly peaceful protests against the perception of a rigged system, in which some people decide to riot” is completely irrelevant to other “mostly peaceful protests against the perception of a rigged system, in which some people decide to riot”—that’s just a delusional argument. Of course it’s relevant context to the cycle of escalating political tension and violence.

            2. A logically consistent, and honest, person would acknowledge that the BLM riots were bad, the Stop the Steal riots were bad, and that last night was not an appropriate time to mention the BLM riots.

              1. When a person praised or dismissed the BLM violence, they don’t get to then condemn the Capitol riot without being called a hypocrite.

                1. Though I am unsure why that matters in relation to the current topic, I agree with you entirely.

                  1. Though I am unsure why that matters in relation to the current topic

                    Oh look, it’s White Knight’s new sock. It’s impossible for the idiot to change up his patterns.

                    1. A swing and a miss.

              2. the Stop the Steal riots were bad, the BLM riots were bad, the left doth protest too much very selectively, and no one cares what time you think it is.

              3. I’d agree with your first two thoughts, but I don’t see why “last night was an inappropriate time to mention the BLM riots” has anything to do with logical consistency.

                If anything logical consistency warrants the recognition that the Left and Right have escalated from a philosophical and cultural “war” to one with actual violence—breaking a cycle requires recognizing that it exists. Otherwise, you’re just perpetuating the cycle.

              4. No, it’s the perfect time. Prior political violence and those who condoned, encouraged and supported it are a direct contributor to the Capitol riot, possibly the primary cause.

                1. [citation needed]

              5. Oh, what Stop the Steal riots would those be?

                A logically consistent, and honest, person would acknowledge that the supposed “insurrection” involved less destruction than your average night in Portland, let alone the Capitol Hill and White House riots of May, June and August.
                They stormed in by walking in single file between the velvet ropes for fucks sake. The security guards helped take pictures while they posed.

          2. It is related to how the issue is being spun. I don’t see where Trump incited anything, but I don’t approve of what happened last week and have no problem with the people who committed crimes being punished. The problem is that we have a ton of people who either supported in some way or overlooked the political violence that happened last year who are now acting like it’s the end of the world because of a relatively minor incident at the capitol. If Trump is responsible for what happened last week, then everyone who kept encouraging BLM protests after they turned violent is responsible for that.

            1. I didn’t see that video as Trump responding to accusations of incitement. Maybe I missed it but it seemed like he left the impeachment charges unaddressed and was instead making a statement regarding the federal government’s response to last week’s riot. In either case, I am not sure how talking about last year’s violence makes any relevant contribution to his ultimate message.

              1. Yeah, fuck context.

                1. It’s White Knight’s new sock.
                  I guess the little totalitarian mouthpiece figures he’s burned too many bridges and is looking for new cover.

            2. On a bigger picture, it baffles me that so many people continue to view Trump as the start of the underlying sentiment that led to the Capitol riots.

              No, he just recognized and capitalized on what most in the media have totally missed—the populist revolt started years ago, gaining steam throughout W’s second term and the Obama presidency, based on a “new guy, same as the old guy” view of the governing elites.

              Simultaneously, social media was the accelerant that made it impossible to ignore the cultural/philosophical divides in the country—the criticism of “deplorables” was no longer left to faculty lounges, but amplified for all to see.

              The idea that “Trump is responsible” is just one more instance of ignoring the populist groundswell that itself led to Trump. Ironically, ignoring, dismissing, and deriding the populace was/is one of the primary motivators for the groundswell in the first place.

      2. It’s no fallacy. Sullum is the one begging the question.

    2. I don’t recall any of the BLM protestors trying to kidnap and hang a governor or try to overthrow the government and kill members of Congress.

    3. ML, in May 2020 there were 50 people arrested at a BLM protest in Minneapolis, where George Floyd was killed. Nearly all were for “unlawful assembly”, one was for misdemeanor assault, one was a bench warrant.

      https://www.startribune.com/51-arrested-near-fifth-precinct-hq-after-protesting-chauvin-release/572670582/#:~:text=More%20than%20four%20dozen%20people,George%20Floyd%20on%20May%2025.

      Contrast that with last Wednesday when HUNDREDS committed felonies by trespassing on federal grounds, dozens assualted police officers, stole national secrets, and attempted to interfere in the lawful execution of Congress’ duties.

      Now, I understand that there were a HANDFUL of people in Minneapolis who looted, and a handful who burned down buildings, those are terrible – but saying that was worse??? How?

      Facts matter, and the facts are clear that right-wing terrorism and violence is FAR more common and far more destructive, on balance. You don’t get that, which I understand but facts are still facts. In recent history (and I constrain it so you don’t try to makeup some crap about the Civil War) there has never been any attack (or combination thereof) by the left, that killed as many people as Timothy McVeigh killed in a SINGLE DAY.

      Past that, the Taliban and the like are religious extremists, like Eric William Rudolph (you know, the guy who planted the bomb at Atlanta) so save your breath trying to claim that’s somehow left-wing – they are orthodox religious zealots.

      1. Why are you limiting your examination of the scope of violence/arrests to Minneapolis? This has been going on all over the country. Portland is still rioting. BLM has been linked to hundreds of riots. It’s far more than a handful of people doing this.

        1. Was there only one event in Minneapolis, because that’s all that’s being referred to.
          I’m sure, if the same effort went into identifying, after the fact through photographic evidence, those committing felonious acts during that, single event, there would have been a hell of a lot of more arrests and for more serious crimes.
          Any odds on the protesters, from the Capitol, getting let off, with a slap on the wrist, like virtually everyone arrested in the other political violence events.

    4. So correct it hurts!

      Another writer that makes me consider NOT subscribing to reason!

  3. *doesn’t* exist

  4. Left wingers who suddenly hate violence doth protest too much.

    1. Ditto the lefty shits who find ‘incitement’ where it ain’t.

      1. Liar! WHEN is Der TrumpfenFuhrer going to apologize for his Big-Lie LYING, which is pretty plain and simple to see?

        Der TrumpfenFuhrer ***IS*** responsible for agitating for democracy to be replaced by mobocracy!

        https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/trump-election-warnings-leaving-office/index.html
        A list of the times Trump has said he won’t accept the election results or leave office if he loses

        Essential heart and core of the LIE by Trump: “ANY election results not confirming MEEE as Your Emperor, MUST be fraudulent!”
        September 13 rally: “The Democrats are trying to rig this election because that’s the only way they’re going to win,” he said.
        Trump’s constant re-telling and supporting the Big Lie (any election not electing Trump is “stolen”) set up the environment for this (insurrection riot) to happen. He shares the blame. Boys will be boys? Insurrectionists will be insurrectionists, so let’s forgive and forget? Poor Trump was misunderstood? Does that sound good and right and true?

        It really should immediately make us think of Krystallnacht. Hitler and the NAZIs set up for this by constantly blaming Jews for all things bad. Jew-haters will be Jew-haters, so let’s forgive and forget? Poor Hitler was misunderstood? Does that sound good and right and true?

        1. “Poor Hitler was misunderstood”

          What the hell, Sqrlsy.

          1. Poor Trump was misunderstood?

            What the hell, Momma?

            1. You just said Hitler, not Trump.

              1. Same difference! Different era, different hair color, what else?

                1. Flag, refresh, spaz.

                2. You’re equivocating the holocaust with, what? Absolutely fuck all?

                  You’re disgusting.

          2. Flag, refresh.
            There is no other commenter here who gets that from me, but spaz needs to join that asshole writer of ransom notes; fuck off and die.

        2. He may have made ridiculous claims about the election and other things. That is not incitement to violence.

        3. Sarcasmic repeats media lies and thinks nobody will notice.

        4. Cementing your positon as a f*#k1*g idiot I see. The closest to idolitry we came to was the left and their worship of a malignant racist named Obama.

          But keep posting you stupidity. It provides ‘tards like you with an outlet.

      2. Can’t remember who suggested simply flagging the spastic’s bullshit, but it does make dealing with the thread sooo much easier!
        Spaz, fuck off and die.

        1. I hate fucking flagging anyone legitimate, even trolls like DOL/WK. It feels like censorship.
          But when Sqrlsy posts the same retarded copypasta for the 1000th time, there’s no point in leaving it there.

          1. You HATE the truth, when you can’t refute it, don’t you, Momma?

            1. flag, refresh, even when the shitbag tries simplicity.
              Fuck off and die.

          2. There are only so many moments in life. Don’t waste them reading Sqrlsy.

            1. Exactly.
              That shitbag has no claim on my time, and his/her effort to make cute references/clever names/dependent clauses/outright lies in no way obligates me to put up with such bullshit.
              Fuck off and die, spaz

          3. “I hate fucking flagging anyone legitimate, even trolls like DOL/WK.”

            Agreed. As noted, spaz is the only commenter who gets flagged. At all.
            I do not flag such demonstrated idiots as Tony, turd, MG, jackass; they get read and get the appropriate response; their bullshit is usually understandable without navigating several reversals from dependent clauses. They aren’t particularly intelligent (see Ken’s analysis), but they don’t go out of their way to make their bullshit hard to understand.
            Spaz, OTOH, posts word-salads not worth my time to parse; I do not owe such a raving piece of shit my time to separate what might be true from obvious bullshit.
            The spasz is either truly spastic or presumptuous of the time of those who might read his steaming piles of shit.
            Regardless, flag, refresh.

            1. Whoa! PhD Computer Scientist here has figured out how to move the mouse-cursor, and click on the flag icon! Congratulations, Stable Genius Junior! Maybe You could write Your NEXT Computer Science PhD thesis on HOW You do that? And thread-clutter-post it EVERY FUCKIN’ TIME that you see a post that you disagree with? And expect all the OTHER marching morons to THANK you profusely?

              Well now… Have You and any of the other marching morons ever heard of “The Boy Who Cried ‘Wolf’?” Has it ever occurred to You, that the moderators will immediately ignore You and Yours? Now, when the time comes that Reason.com gets hacked, and some hacker posts a child-porn link to video of YOUR kid or relative’s kids… Or YOU abusing YOUR kid, or “doxes” You and Your SSN, real name, home address, and photo… OR, they post the IP address and WIP security key, access codes, etc., to the self-destruct mechanism in your battery-driven “IP of All Things” MAGA-magic underwear… And You (“The Boy Who Cried ‘Wolf’”) will FLAG the post that unveils all such things… You will be IGNORED, asshole!

              You ever think of THAT, asshole who cried wolf? I, for one, will NOT flag it when they “dox” you!!! Learn your lessons by SUFFERING, ye who will NOT learn otherwise!

              1. sevo just got pwnd

                1. Heal, my friend. The evil people whose names start with “T” will soon be gone and be replaced by people with other names you can then obsess about. 😀

                  Nobody gets owned by sqrl btw. At least not in the average universe of most people, who also tend to be literate.

                  1. at least you finally admit to being schizophrenic

                    1. At least you finally admit your reading comprehension is that of a 5 year old or less.

                    2. Epic burn, Tony.

                      Too much molly on your rough dates, I’m guessing.

            2. Flag, refresh, asshole.
              Gee, I hit ‘flag, refresh’ before posting this comment.
              You got flagged regardless, asshole.

              1. Flag away, watch me quake in my boots!

                Are you one of the whiners here who whine about “censorship”, whining crybaby? About “censorship” by PRIVATE PROPERTY owners? I can’t keep all of you assholes straight, truth be told! I am just curious… I am tempted to say “you are censoring me”, but the sarcasm would probably go over you puny little so-called brain…

                1. This private property thing is a fallacy, considering there is no real structure where people can have their voice heard that would not be defined as “private”. The alternative would be to establish a public structure, which would then be governmentally controlled. Private/Public doesn’t really have that much bearing on “censorship”, which is just the act of filtering certain opinions over others or muting somebody over someone else while pretending the given platform was “neutral”.

                  You are not as smart as you think you are. And by far not as smart as you would like to appear. And it’s tiresome, explaining things in a consistent manner instead of just calling people like you the dipshits that they are. That’s why I rarely do the former.

    2. Way way too much. They’re overplaying their hand in a major way.

    3. Really Brian, considering the right-wing engages in violence 17 times more commonly?

      1. You need to tell those voices in your head that such things aren’t true.

  5. I’m wondering if all presidents have been assholes. We just couldn’t tell, because they had professional writers instructing everything they said.

    1. Johnson made Trump sound like Jimmy Carter. If Twitter had been around he would’ve uploaded dick pics.

      1. And I can’t even imagine Andrew Jackson’s twitter.
        You want to read an actual racist and violent sociopath’s feed, it would be his.

        Pelosi would poo her Depends in fear reading the stuff that madman would type.

        1. Seconded, although Pelosi doesn’t really give a shit about any of this. It’s all theater.

      2. Johnson NEVER behaved that way publicly, Trump is a toilet-mouthed 3 year old who doesn’t have the decorum Johnson had on his most drunk day.

        1. Fuck off Venigina, Johnson behaved far worse. The press just didn’t report it.
          If you weren’t such a totalitarian fuck you’d be bothered by that fact.

    2. Not only writers; the thoroughly dishonest press.
      LBJ used to invite ‘advisors’ into the bathroom while he was shitting; not a peep from the press. Kennedy made no secret of his philandering; crickets from the press. Obama was featured in a photo sucking on a joint and then lied that it way ‘congress’s duty to move weed from the worst level’; read anything about that outside if FOX? And he attended a church with the worst sort of racist scum as a pastor; made a BS-packed speech about it, so the press said it ‘was wonderful’.

      1. The press helped to conceal the fact that Franklin Roosevelt was paralyzed from the waist down due to polio.

        1. These examples show that politicians battle the press at their risk. Cultivating a favorable image with the press is worth at least 5% with the voters. Look at CA, where Trump lost by 5 million votes, but the issues he favors won handily. Personality, or charisma, matters a great deal to the press.

          1. Of course the issues he favors won, the two old parties are nearly identical on issues. Its culture war garbage for the plebs where they differ.

            1. It’s mostly subservience to the ruling caste you promote on which people differ.

          2. Just like all contested House races went to Trump, all the issues he favors won handily in California, yet he lost.
            Doesn’t it make you wonder?
            Meanwhile a complete shits, like Eric Swallow-well and Adam Schiff-for-brains, got re-elected.
            “The Steal” has been a feature, in some places, for a long time.

        2. EVERY ADULT then knew that FDR was paralyzed or disabled. There was no concealing anything. There was simply normal human courtesy – which you seem to think is offensive.

      2. So then Sullum is just engaging in a long standing historic practice of journalists kowtowing to the elite?

        Quelle conservateur!

      3. He left that church after the preacher made that speech. So black people can’t bitch about what white people did to them over the past couple of centuries? lmao you’re quite the libertarian aren’t you 🙂

        1. Yes, 0blama left that church after the preacher made the speech…LONG after.
          What the Rev. Wright said went way beyond “bitching”.

      4. Sevo, “Kennedy made no secret of his philandering”.. really, when did JFK publish a document admitting to adultery, or make any such utterance.. what a joke.

    3. Quite true. Some behind the scenes rages are legion. Clinton was famous for his screaming fits. Obama kneecapped many a leaker in his admin.

      1. “…Clinton was famous for his screaming fits…”
        And HRC?
        “Hillary Clinton unleashed foul-mouthed tirade in Trump debate prep session”
        Wait
        for
        it,
        it’s
        from
        a
        member
        of
        the
        H
        R
        W
        conspiracy:
        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/apr/24/hillary-clinton-donald-trump-amy-chozick-chasing-hillary-book

    4. Get $192 hourly from Google!…Yes this is Authentic since I just got my first payout of $24413 and this was just of a single week… SAewq I have also bought my Range Rover Velar right after this payout…It is really cool job I have ever had and you won’t forgive yourself if you do not check it…….Home Profit System

  6. “Trump being Trump, he cannot resist an allusion to left-wing violence,”

    You would have to have your head in the sand to think months of violent riots in the spring and summer are completely unrelated to the capital riot. I’m not excusing the capital rioters, but if any riots are culturally acceptable don’t expect everyone to be able to distinguish good riots from bad riots.

    1. It is also a tacit reminder of the much more extreme and overt inciteful language that emanated from Pelosi and many other Democrats.

      None of which Sullum is going to address with anywhere near the same fervor.

  7. Trump being Trump, he cannot resist an allusion to left-wing violence…

    They need to hear about it as well.

    1. Trump is always using whataboutism rather than addressing the issue at hand. He truly loves and thinks the people attempting a coup are “special”. Two days later when he discovers that there are consequences for Trying To Overthrow The Government and he denounces them. The what-about’s antifa who no one has found any evidence of participating in the coup.

      1. What a load of shit.
        The first word of your screen name is the first lie you tell.

  8. There it was, Trump laying bare for all to see who he is…and he’s told you over and over again.

    Sessions learned it. Cohen learned it. Kemp learned it. Kelly learned it. Mattis learned it. Everyone next to him eventually does. And now these idiotic saps who decided on insurrection are learning it.

    They’re the ones who invaded Congress, vandalized, stole, died, and even murdered for him. And they’ll all rightfully pay for it. And now that they’re useless to him, in fact a weight to him, he rejects you. He says he wants nothing to do with you. That those things you did are un-American. They don’t represent him and “his” movement. And you should pay for it. Go to jail for it.

    Saps. Just like all the saps here who hang on his every word, still defend him, and who will shell out 10 bucks a month for his future media platform. You’re the saps he’s depended on his entire life for all his cons. You show up like clockwork.

    But hey, you deserve it!

    1. Buttplug already had this typed up, and maybe it doesn’t really fit… but hey.

      You’re as lazy as you are predictable, Plug.

      1. Speaking of saps, mommy dearest checks in! Keep ‘em coming!

        1. Lol.

    2. Jackand Ace
      January.13.2021 at 9:18 pm
      “There it was, Trump laying bare for all to see who he is…and he’s told you over and over again…”

      Jackass, you need to read this; Ken got your number, you pathetic piece of lefty shit:
      Ken S. posited earlier in one of the other “orange man bad” threads that certain commenters are assumed to be dishonest, but that grants them far too much credit: Dishonesty requires a mind acute enough to recognize and reject fact.
      There are Tony, turd, M4e, jackass and others here who qualify as incapable of that.
      They might be due some sympathy for their condition. It’s not easy getting along in a world full of information and data with a brain simply not equipped to really “think”.
      Regardless, they still need to be called on their idiocy; perhaps one or more might even become capable of critical thought, doubtful though that seems.
      Active idiocy like yours deserves no sympathy; fuck off and die. The world and your dog will thank you.

      1. Sap #2!

        1. Active idiocy like yours deserves no sympathy; fuck off and die. The world and your dog will thank you.

          1. True story

        2. Is the useful idiot of the left really calling others a sap? Lol

  9. Maybe one of his aides managed to get him to take his meds?

    1. Maybe your TDS is the issue?

      1. Ah the old TDS cop out, you’re so good at those.

    2. Agreed.

    3. Or someone told him that he’d better start polishing his image.

  10. “A less petty, less vindictive, less impulsive, more rational, more responsible, and more gracious man might have delivered something like tonight’s soothing remarks on the day they could have made a real difference. But with such a man in the White House, there would have been no need for them.”

    This is completely bogus. Republicans will always get blamed regardless of the intent. The media are all democrats. They have no need to provide balance.

    1. “A less petty, less vindictive, less impulsive, more rational, more responsible, and more gracious man might have delivered something like tonight’s soothing remarks on the day they could have made a real difference. But with such a man in the White House, there would have been no need for them.”

      He didn’t say “Mother may I?”
      TDS-addled lefty shits will never let him get away with that.

    2. This speech was close to the majority of trump speeches in tone and tenor on the campaign trail. The media didn’t cover it.

  11. The narrative is that there was no left wing violence throughout 2020, and one thing Jacob does, is repeat the narrative.

    1. Idi Amin did it, so it’s OK for Trump to do it! And R Mac will cheer Der TrumpfenFuhrer and His trumpanzees ONWARDS! My side is ALWAYS right, dammit!

      1. Did Sqrlsy lean on his keyboard? Because that was nonsensical.

        1. Would Momma and-or “R Talks-Smack” PLEASE tell us WHERE did Jacob write that there was no left wing violence throughout 2020?

          “R Talks-Smack” (R Mac) was engaging in pea-brained whataboutism. Left-wing idiots commit violence, so a bunch of brainless, acting-like-beasts trumpanzees, trying to tear down democracy and replace it with mob-ocracy, is totes OK with you moron whatabouts!!!

          1. The first paragraph made sense, but we were back to babble in the second.

            1. Flag, refresh; always a good idea with spaz; you do not owe suck steaming piles of shit you time to parse.

          2. I forgot who said it, but Troll Mac was much more clever. Once again Sqrlsy loses.

        2. Mother’s Lament, is there any part of sqrlsy’s electronic vomit, that isn’t nonsensical?

      2. Idi Amin died in 2003. Not really relevant to the left wing violence all of last year that Reason minimized and covered for.

        1. “…left wing violence all of last year that Reason minimized and covered for.”

          Citations please, liar!

          You want recent events? Idi Amin is too stale for ya? I see that YOU, R Mac, have NOT condemned Anthony Quinn! You ADORE (“support the narrative of”) Anthony Quinn, don’t you? WHAT are YOU doing to protect us from the Lizard People, anyway?

          https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nashville-bomber-anthony-quinn-sent-conspiracy-theories-to-people-before-explosion/
          Nashville bomber sent writings espousing conspiracy theories to multiple people days before blast
          Anthony Quinn told me so! It must be true! From the above link…

          Warner’s writings also discuss the conspiracy theory that Earth is controlled by a race of reptilian lizard people.
          “They put a switch into the human brain so they could walk among us and appear human,” Warner wrote.

          1. Leave it to Sqrlsy to exploit another mentally ill pal.
            Does anyone else is get the feeling that whenever Sqrls is at group therapy he tries to bully the other retards?

            1. Be careful or he’ll call the lizard people on you.

          2. Flag, refresh.

    2. That’s how he gets rich Uncle Charles to give him all those nice fat brown envelopes.

  12. So the president who has tried for 4 years to pull the US out of forever wars suddenly wants peace? Shocking just shocking

    1. He’s worried his supporters will kill more people in his name. Not a good look.

      1. Oh? I’m feeling sparky so I’ll bite… Who did they kill in his name?

        1. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/capitol-police-officer-has-died-after-clashing-pro-trump-mob-n1253396

          Capitol Police officer dies from injuries after clashing with pro-Trump mob
          The officer, Brian D. Sicknick, is the fifth person to die from Wednesday’s violent clash in Washington.

          “Say his name”, trumpanzee! “Brian D. Sicknick”

          1. Flag, refresh.
            It is easy and does not require you to try to understand what the spastic is hoping for/demanding/suggesting/otherwise;
            It is not worth your time.

            1. But asshole here is TOTES OK with cluttering up the board EVERY TIME that Stable Genius Junior figures out how to hit the flag icon!

              1. Flag , refresh.

          2. Brian Sicknick died of a stroke the next day which they attributed to a clot from a bruise, but the coroner now disagrees.
            Basically every story based on the Reuters report claiming he died from his injuries seems to be a lie.

            And Brian Sicknick didn’t want to be your Horst Wessel, Sqrlsy. His family say he was a firm Trump supporter who said “I believe we should have regime change right here in America.”
            https://nypost.com/2021/01/10/what-the-left-wants-to-ignore-about-slain-capitol-police-officer/

            Now it’s my turn. Your side killed four innocent people Sqrlsy, one girl was shot like an animal.

            Say her name you fascist prick! Ashli Elizabeth Babbitt!

            1. Liars believe whatever lies they want to believe. More news at 11:00!

              “Your side killed four innocent people Sqrlsy, one girl was shot like an animal.”

              Trumpanzees who try to destroy democracy and replace it with mobocracy? You’re totes OK with being a trumpanzee, lusting after mobocracy? That is YOUR side?

              This here trumpanzee got shot dead for acting like the trumpanzee that he was! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travis_(chimpanzee)

              Should trumpanzees just be allowed to literally run riot on the rest of us all, all day long? Is democracy a suicide pact? Do you think your support of trumpanzees is going to get you some POWER, power-pig? Ripped off any hands and faces lately? Act like a beast, lately?

            2. https://www.snopes.com/ap/2021/01/07/capitol-police-says-officer-dies-after-riots/

              Capitol Police Says Officer Dies After ‘Riots’
              The U.S. Capitol Police are reporting that Capitol Police Officer Brian D. Sicknick has died due to injuries sustained while on-duty during the riots at the Capitol.

              Capitol Police are all liars, according to Momma, when Capitol Police defend us from trumpanzees run amok. When they run rampant stomping on BLM protesters, though, THEN the story changes quickly!

              1. Flag, refresh.

              2. Lol. Your report the initial misleading reports after you get an updated one? How do you say retard in sqrslys language?

                1. Everyone knew why George Floyd died right away. That’s why they had to get a second coroner’s report to confirm what we already knew: That he was murdered by police via strangulation.

                  We have a similar case here. Everyone knows that it was Trump supporters that murdered this police officer. If not, we can’t say the rioters are murderers. And that sounds so much better than mere vandals.

              3. Like I said, those were initial reports. The story’s now changed, you totalitarian shill.

          3. Flag, refresh.

          4. Wouldn’t “die during” be more accurate? As far as I have seen, only two of the deaths were related to the actual break in and 3 were people who succumbed to other health problems. Seems like a dishonest way to spin it. One person was killed by police and one cop died from a stroke brought on by a knock to the head.

          5. They fabricated an “injury” to blame on a medical condition that he died of, to deflect from the murder of Ashli Babbitt.
            No evidence of anyone assaulting him with a fire extinguisher.

  13. The TDS is strong with this one.

  14. Taken at face value, it was actually a good speech. I’m actually impressed. I did not think Trump had it within him to give a speech like that. I wonder what was the argument that finally persuaded him to do that.

    1. But I notice that Trump did NOT take back (or apologize for) the months-and-months-long “Big Lie” (any vote NOT for Trump, must be fraudulent), that was a MAJOR root of all of this!

      https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/24/politics/trump-election-warnings-leaving-office/index.html
      A list of the times Trump has said he won’t accept the election results or leave office if he loses

      September 13 rally: “The Democrats are trying to rig this election because that’s the only way they’re going to win,” he said.

      1. Flag, refresh.
        Fuck off and die. we would like the world to be more intelligent than it is with you as a living piece of shit.

      2. God. You really do push media narratives.

    2. Perhaps your TDS was a factor in your opinion? Yeah, pretty much.

    3. “Taken at face value, it was actually a good speech. I’m actually impressed. I did not think Trump had it within him to give a speech like that. I wonder what was the argument that finally persuaded him to do that.”

      Perhaps the prevalence of TDS might have something to do with it?
      Ken got your number, TDS-addled lefty shit:
      Ken S. posited earlier in one of the other “orange man bad” threads that certain commenters are assumed to be dishonest, but that grants them far too much credit: Dishonesty requires a mind acute enough to recognize and reject fact.
      There are Tony, turd, M4e, jeff, jackass and others here who qualify as incapable of that.
      They might be due some sympathy for their condition; it’s not easy getting along in a world full of information and data with a brain simply not equipped to really “think”.
      Regardless, they still need to be called on their idiocy; perhaps one or more might even become capable of critical thought, doubtful though that seems.

      1. The speech he gave before the capital riot was pretty good too.

        1. You mean the one that was still in progress when the first protesters attempted entry to a building, that was a 35 minute walk from where Trump was speaking?
          https://lidblog.com/did-trump-incite-violence/

    4. Here’s my guess…Mitch McConnell.

      He went to Trump and said “Listen. You’re about to get impeached. For the second time. And I’ll tell you…you just might get convicted this time. In fact, I just might be one of those votes to convict. You need to do something for those of us who had your back the first time. You need to make an unequivocal statement that condemns what happened. It needs to be clear, something we can point to and say ‘See? He never intended that to happen’”

      Of course, it’s all BS, just like everything else that comes out of his mouth.

      1. You’re about to get impeached. For the second time.

        As if he should care.

    5. The fatwit of course ignored him every other time a speech was made in themis tenor instead relying on media narratives to form his opinion.

    6. Thanks Jeff. I agree.

  15. It’s a good speech, one Trump presumably did not write but nevertheless delivers with something resembling conviction. But it’s a bit late…
    [a] more gracious man might have delivered something like tonight’s soothing remarks on the day they could have made a real difference. But with such a man in the White House, there would have been no need for them.

    Lol mkay

    1. Well, he didn’t say “Mother May I?” last week!

  16. “Trump’s Belated Message of Peace and Unity Makes You Wonder Where This President Has Been the Last Four Years”

    I think he spent the last four years under attack. Does that answer the question?

    1. RELENTLESSLY under attack, even before he won.

  17. I’m still waiting for the Reason article condemning all the violations of election laws by govenors, courts, and election boards. #nofraudifidontseeit

    1. Since when was Reason an investigative journal? The writers merely regurgitate what they read in the NYT or WaPo, or hear on npr. Although Bailey, Welch, KMW, and a few others do some actual fresh thinking on occasion. But they all spend too much time in the DC echo chamber.

      1. What investigation is needed to understand the electors clause? They just yesterday reached back into the 1800s to try to justify impeachment a president out of office and somehow missed the dozens of constitutional law professors saying it can’t be done, not one counter argument.

      2. You forgot their primary source, Vox.

  18. Peace and unity, my ass. I’d rather he finish off his term chasing a journalist down the street with a chain saw.

    1. CNN or that painted-nosed CBS actress?

  19. I thought an interesting point seemed to be that if the Democrat governors were simply going to sign the bill to move the vote away from the usual precinct for Election Day, that a lot of people couldn’t vote for anyone of any office or party by showing up on time.

  20. MAGA “has always been about defending the rule of law, supporting the men and women of law enforcement, and upholding our nation’s most sacred traditions and values.” Hahahaha! Nope. It’s all about the grift.

    1. China says hi Joe.

  21. Trump does the bad boy / good boy thing like clockwork. It’s no surprise. Nevertheless it’s good to see. His hardcore supporters felt betrayed by him today. That will further demoralize and discredit the extremist fringe of the movement. And that’s good for us – libertarians. People will realize that politicians will inevitably disappoint you. That’s fine – we’re all grown up and can take care of ourselves now. I went around Twitter to remind his dejected groupies of this fact.

    1. Good insight. Trump has impulse control issues, and that got him in trouble repeatedly. He was too transparent, unlike the Obama/Clinton types whose personas are all fabricated masks hiding their real selves. But that’s what one needs in the era of deep fakes and avatars.

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  23. Do you think we’ll wonder where the incessant 24/7 media attacks on Biden have gone?

    Or will the media patiently wait while sleepy Joe naps?

    1. 24/7 media attacks on Biden

      When did this happen?

  24. “Trump’s Belated Message of Peace and Unity Makes You Wonder Where This President Has Been the Last Four Years”

    Because, of course, the Democrats have been all “Peace and Unity” for the last four years.

  25. Why does this remind me of the criminal at sentencing? They stand contrite, tears in their eyes as they read a statement written by their lawyers. Hoping they can make enough of an impact on the judge (in this case Mitch McConnell and the American people) to get off easy.

    I can not help but think, a little too late.

  26. A more reasonable Trump always existed, however Trump does have personality flaws. The opposition Democrat party and their their very willing lapdogs commonly known as the Corporate Media stoked and incited the Trump reactions that have become common.

    Trump with his personality flaws reacted by rubbing the faces of this set of hypocrites in their own hypocrisy. The opposition Democrat party and Corporate Media have an internal belief of that they have a Liberal Superiority and fully exercise their Liberal Entitlement.

    Trump’s support is largely a collection of people who are sick and tired of being denigrated, accused of being racists, bigots, Nazis, Fascists, and stupid rubes among the numerous other derogatory terms.

    Instead of capitulating like previous Republican elected officials, Trump fought back against the Democrats and Corporate Media using the same type of spurious attack that the Democrats and Corporate Media have been using for decades.

    Personally, I dislike Trump and have never voted for him. Likewise I dislike Biden and have never voted for him either. I do however identify Trump’s appeal to him supporter.

    I also believe that Biden appeal to his supporters is simply pragmatic that he is not Trump. I do not believe that Biden has any sort of semblance of a mandate any more than Trump did.

    My predictions for the near term will be less volatility with the messaging as the Corporate Media will transform from attack mode to sycophantic propagandists.

    The constant Corporate Media drum beat on Covid-19 will fade into the background. The CDC will change their guidance on precautions and reduce the amount of PCR test ampflication.

    Previously dictatorial promoting Governors will start changing their tune. The will become more cooperative in the distribution of the vaccines. They will begin to open up and reduce the amount of lockdown.

    1. The opposition Democrat party and their their very willing lapdogs commonly known as the Corporate Media stoked and incited the Trump reactions that have become common.

      I’d argue that Trump and the media’s antagonist relationship started well before he ever became a political figure and goes back to when he was still a Democrat. Smaller skirmishes between the two were less visible but there. In NYC, the elite aristocracy, which controls the New York media never really excepted him into their cohort and he resented that his accomplishments weren’t enough to earn his peers respect.

      Basically we just spent 4-6 years watching a high school clique fight performed by grown adults.

    2. Trump’s support is largely a collection of racists, bigots, Nazis, Fascists, and stupid rubes, who are sick and tired of being accused of being racists, bigots, Nazis, Fascists, and stupid rubes.

      Oh, and a few of them are good people caught up with the crazies.

      1. Well, that’s democracy. The racists and bigots get a say just like everyone else. Though I would question the assertion about the makeup of Trump’s support. Yes, people like that likely support Trump. That doesn’t mean they are the core or majority of that support.

        1. You ask a good question about Trumps supporters. While Trump enjoys high support among Republicans, I don’t think it is deep and that most will move on quickly once he is gone. I think the loudest and deepest support comes from the racist and bigots. Trump has given them license to say and do things that other Republican candidates would not give.

          1. I think people who think that Trump’s support is largely or significantly about racism and bigotry miss the point and fail to learn valuable lessons, only further increasing political divides.

            1. In office politics, we used to say such a standoff required a ‘coming to Jesus’ meeting. A meeting where all sins on all sides were acknowledged and disavowed, participants absolved, and a way forward was agreed upon. Unfortunately, it looks like we’re going to need a more actual Jesus to sacrifice and generate some introspection on a national level.

              Even then, I’m not sure I see it generating any introspection with a media and large numbers of consumers that have the cognitive abilities of a parrot.

            2. It is hard not to see Trump’s support as racists and bigots when his message is so very filled with racism, misogyny, and bigotry. The problems people face are real. His solution is to set group against each other. This helps him but solves no problem.

              1. His solution is to set group against each other. This helps him but solves no problem.

                I would agree that, even if it solved absolutely nothing, Trump’s Presidency had too few Beer Summits.

                1. He replaced the Beer Summits with Tiki Torch marches.

                  1. He wrongly and divisively accused a police officer of racism at a tiki torch march?

            3. Zeb, you said: “I think people who think that Trump’s support is largely or significantly about racism and bigotry miss the point and fail to learn valuable lessons, only further increasing political divides.”
              No, they’re just fucking idiots, who don’t know what they are talking about.

  27. PPACA Mandate (libertarian nightmare, liberal wet dream).
    Intelligence agencies spying on campaigns.
    Fake investigations.
    Investigations of the Biden crime family that are criminalized.
    Many months of riots cheered on.
    50 former Intelligence agencies lying to the American people on the eve of an election.
    The MSM tightly aligned with one political party giving far more than a whiff of fascism.
    Judges changing election laws to favor their party.

    The above is apparently the Libertarian utopia Sullum prefers.

    We have heard a lot regarding Whataboutism lately – how about What the F-ism? WTF do think is going to happen with Dems controlling the executive and the legislative, while the judiciary signals they will do nothing to stop more of the above?

    Where have you been the last 4 years?

    1. PPACA Mandate (libertarian nightmare, liberal wet dream).
      Intelligence agencies spying on campaigns.
      Fake investigations.
      Investigations of the Biden crime family that are criminalized.
      Many months of riots cheered on.
      50 former Intelligence agencies lying to the American people on the eve of an election.
      The MSM tightly aligned with one political party giving far more than a whiff of fascism.
      Judges changing election laws to favor their party.

      Not to mention that we’ve effectively gone from “How many divisions (with which to oppose socialism) has The Pope?” to “How many Twitter followers (with which support socialism) has The Pope?”

      It’s one thing to wonder, with all the violence and lies, where the President, any politician, or any man has been the last 4 years. It’s another to wonder where The Church, any church, is. But then, that opens up questions and discussions about moral beliefs and personal responsibility, and we can’t have that.

  28. He could’ve been at this point if his own party ever bothered to rein him in. But they didn’t because it’s party above country for them always. Traitorous scum.

    1. Enough about democrats.

    2. If Republicans could just learn to ignore the people and control their candidates like Democrats do, our body politic could finally put country ahead of the party.

  29. Apparently it took two impeachments to make Donald Trump presidential.

    What? No, it was deployment of the beauty of our weapons upon Syria. Don’t you remember?

    1. He would have seemed much more presidential if he never spoke off the cuff.
      If he had someone else control his Twitter.
      If he never took questions at Press Conferences.

      But… aren’t these all good things? I hope Joe follows his lead in these things. It’d be bad if he went back to the standards of Bush/Obama.

      1. One of the only reasons to even appreciate his presidency was that he was not “presidential.”

        1. I think the assumption made by many is that he’s a bad person because we got to see him so transparently.
          It’s doubtful we’d have such a rosy view of Obama if he was equally transparent. Do we really think his thoughts are exactly like his written speeches?

          1. “I’m pretty good at killing people.”

            -an actual Obama quote.

      2. I think it’s mostly good that Trump spoke his mind and didn’t hide who he was. I do think he could have been more effective if he had had a little bit more self control and consistency, though.
        And it was entertaining, if also a bit maddening. I’m sick of the “dignity of the office” shit. Politicians are all just a bunch of assholes who think they get to tell everyone else what to do.

        1. True.
          I had a roommate who interned at the Indiana Statehouse a few years ago. You can imagine that as all these retirement age state congressmen and senators were getting social media accounts, their staff had to work pretty fast on putting guardrails up so they wouldn’t do something stupid. Generally they wouldn’t put the account on the officials personal phone. There was one anecdote of a congressman having twitter on his phone when he went out drinking… and it was not a fun time for his staff to clean up that mess.

          That’s just to say: As more Millenials get into office we’re probably going to see more politicians using twitter like Trump and AOC, and I’d agree that’s generally a good thing.

      3. Everything Joke Biden says will be written and prescreened by his staff. This includes every ‘question’ he answers from the press. He’s not a President, he’s a ventriloquist’s dummy.

  30. Trump’s Belated Message of Peace and Unity Makes You Wonder Where This President Has Been the Last Four Years

    I don’t know his location minute-for-minute for the past 4 years but I do know that as people were breaking into the Capitol, he was across town calling for peaceful protests.

  31. Sullum’s case of TDS is terminal.

    The swift and angry accusations by Democrats and left wing media propagandists (claiming Trump criminally incited a riot/insurrection last week at the Capitol) have been found to be false.
    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2021/01/14/oh-so-the-capitol-hill-riot-was-a-planned-attack-n2583122

    1. Trump hadn’t even finished the “inciting” speech, when the Capitol police chief said he knew they were in trouble.
      That was a 35 minute walk away from the speech.
      https://lidblog.com/did-trump-incite-violence/

  32. This message was for an audience of one – it was Trump on his belly before Mitch begging, between licks of tongue polishing the Senator’s shoes, not to be convicted. Trump brand, STRENGTH.

  33. I’m repeating myself, but I’m pretty tired of this private property fallacy that censorship advocates keep mantra-posting. Quoting myself on it:

    This private property thing is a fallacy, considering there is no real structure where people can have their voice heard that would not be defined as “private”. The alternative would be to establish a public structure, which would then be governmentally controlled. Private/Public doesn’t really have that much bearing on “censorship”, which is just the act of filtering certain opinions over others or muting somebody over someone else while pretending the given platform was “neutral”.

    Censorship is bad for a society no matter if it happens in private or public, though not directly punishable by the law if it happens in private spaces. But even in private it remains a great evil to a free society and for those people who defend it, all my feelings can be summarized with “lead”. Plumbum, that is. Pb in the periodic table.

    1. Twitter is also not Jack Dorsey’s private playground, nor is Facebook Mark Zuckerberg’s. Both are publicly traded companies, and they have an obligation to deliver value to their shareholders.

      The two have collectively lost over $50 billion in the last week.

      1. Thanks. Did reason write about that? Because that should be their métier.

  34. Where has sullums spine been the last four years?

    1. It hurts with flexibility. Harder to bend over and get your behind penetrated by a leftist media industry, if you have a spine. Abandoning your spine temporarily has something to do with career.

  35. Except for this message the cowardly Bunker Boy is back in the bunker.

    “Donald Trump finally discovers a spotlight he wants to ignore
    The most press-hungry president in history has gone dark.”

    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/13/trump-impeachment-media-459181

    Fraudulent self-promotion was Trump’s sole skill, even his sole thought or more precisely emotion. Trump’s manifest ignorance baffles so many because his skill in building his cult of personality proves that he is not a congenital moron.

    What Trump is is an insect. In his famous quote Heinlen said that “…specialization is for insects.” Trump has specialized so completely in self-promotion that he has no other skills, nor even thoughts. Trump is an insect – a very poisonous insect.

  36. In the Oval Office. But the media, including Reason, was obsessed with stopping this interloper, so all we got was obsession over his Twitter feed and the latest gossip from unnamed ‘administration sources’.

    All hail Joe Biden! Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

  37. Trump’s Belated Message of Peace and Unity Makes You Wonder Where This President Has Been the Last Four Years

    Well the obvious answer is – missing.

    The even more obvious answer after looking at comments – missing because no one WANTS that message.

  38. Sorry Sevo, you were right… apparently JFK didn’t feel the need to be secretive. That said, I’m not sure I’d say he was public. He didn’t really hide his conduct but no one in the press much cared, either.

    Certainly Jackie seemed to care.

    https://medium.com/history-of-yesterday/john-f-kennedy-affairs-ab4dee24a5db

  39. Trump being Trump, he cannot resist an allusion to left-wing violence, along with criticism of “the unprecedented assault on free speech” epitomized by his own eviction from Twitter and Facebook.

    Reason being Reason cannot help but imply criticism of left wing violence is a problem thus reinforcing that it is acceptable.

  40. Here are your quality, Pro-Trump (Nazi) supporters.

    https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/crime-and-courts/2021/01/11/what-we-know-doug-jensen-iowan-arrested-fbi-after-capitol-riot/6616476002/

    Multiple arrests, domestic violence, theft.. quality guy.

  41. Unlike most that came before him, the last 4 years Trump has NOT been starting wars.

  42. Any chance that Reason could put aside this laser focus on Trump and look into why Americans are so pissed off that they would be inclined to actually break into the Capital building? Please! Much more interesting.

    1. It is not complicated. They believe Trump’s lies.

      1. Only morons think those Trump supporters, who know the election was stolen, do so because Trump told them so.
        We have eyes and can see impossible “results”, while the leftists in charge of the vote counting are doing everything they can to hide their actions.
        If the left was so certain the election was free and fair, they’d be falling all over themselves to give the accusers all the information they are requesting.
        That they are doing the opposite is pretty good evidence that it was neither free, nor fair.
        We don’t need Trump to tell us that.

        1. The only reason you think that the election was stolen, and it was not, is because Trump told you so. It is ridiculous that so many people believe the lie.
          Trumpers can never win, because their political life is based on a lie.

  43. Individuals decide their actions and are responsible for them. Neither Trump, video games, rock and roll music, demon rum, nor consorting with the Devil are to blame.

  44. The unrest at the Capitol started place before Trump was finished speaking.

    In his speech, he referred to “peacefully” protesting. The last time I looked, telling someone to be “peaceful” was not inciting violence, but now I guess they need to see about digging up James Madison and impeaching him for having written about “the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

    1. You are picking one word out of an hour long speech.

  45. Trump = Nixon

  46. You mean the false flag setup by Antifa/BLM/Democrats, that “riot”?

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