Election 2020

Republicans Are Trying To Cancel More Than 100,000 Votes in a Deep Blue Part of Texas

A lawsuit filed just days before the election asks federal courts to toss out all the votes already cast at drive-through polling stations in Harris County.

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More than 100,000 votes already cast in Houston could be invalidated on the eve of the election, if a federal court looks favorably on a last-minute lawsuit filed by Texas Republicans.

The lawsuit, filed in federal district court on Wednesday, argues that Harris County, Texas, violated state election law by allowing anyone to use so-called "curbside voting"; the suit seeks to invalidate all the votes cast at the county's 10 drive-through polling stations. The case will be heard on Monday by Judge Andrew Hanan, a George W. Bush appointee with a controversial history on the federal bench.

Under Texas law, the only people eligible to use curbside or drive-through voting are individuals with disabilities who otherwise cannot haul themselves into a polling place. Because Texas also places strict limitations on who can request an absentee ballot—and state officials declined to expand that eligibility in light of the COVID-19 pandemic—Harris County opted to use drive-through voting as a way to let residents cast ballots while maintaining social distancing. (The county is also running drive-through absentee ballot drop-off stations, but those are not subject to this lawsuit.)

State election officials had previously signaled that Harris County's drive-through voting plans were legally permissible. A Republican effort to block the drive-through voting stations was rejected by the Texas Supreme Court earlier this month, and the state Supreme Court on Sunday rejected an attempt to get those votes thrown out.

In light of all that, it seems unlikely that a federal court would invalidate the 127,000 ballots cast at Harris County drive-up polling stations. Indeed, the lawsuit may have come too late for the merits of the case to matter at all, suggests Richard Hasen, a professor of law and political science at the University of California, Irvine.

Under the "doctrine of laches," lawsuits must be filed in a timely manner. "This lawsuit could have come weeks ago and there's no excuse to have waited," Hasan writes at Election Law Blog. "This kind of maneuvering is exactly why there are doctrines like laches and respect for voter reliance interests to stop such shenanigans."

Beyond that, there's little indication that voters did anything wrong. They were merely complying with instructions passed along by county election officials. Democracy Docket, a voting rights legal defence organization that has intervened in the Texas lawsuit, argues that even if the federal court thinks the county erred by establishing these drive-through voting stations, it would require another leap to rule those votes ineligible to be counted.

If the federal courts do invalidate those votes, voters would be allowed to return to polling places on Election Day to cast provision ballots, Chris Hollins, elections clerk for Harris County, told NPR.

Still, the attempt to get more than 100,000 legitimate votes tossed from Texas' election is significant, because it seems fundamentally different from other legal battles surrounding this election. Unlike, say, the ongoing tug of war over whether absentee ballots that arrive days after the election should be counted or not—an issue the U.S. Supreme Court may have to revisit after Election Day—this case is asking a federal court to cancel votes already cast and counted. That seems like a significant escalation.

Of course, if the outcome in Texas is determined by 100,000 or so mostly Democratic votes in a single county, that probably means the election has been a disaster for Republicans whether or not those ballots are counted.

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  1. Under Texas law, the only people eligible to use curbside or drive-through voting are individuals with disabilities who otherwise cannot haul themselves into a polling place.

    So the rules change “because Covid”.

    1. Laws are living documents that can easily be reinterpreted by progressive judges. Honestly, Texans should be allowed to vote online or by text to avoid potentially contracting the Drumpf virus, COVID-19.

      1. Then run for the state legislature and change the law. Until then. obey the law.

        1. Good thing none of the voters had to ever go out in public to buy something like, say, food in the past six months. This voting thing will be the only possible exposure in their lives and certainly lead to massive casualties.

          1. Or march in some peaceful protest.

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            1. And yet it is the democrats that are actually threatening one party state with the expansion of the supreme court and the addition of new states.

              1. “…and the addition of new states.”

                Tell us more?

                I have heard of Northern California wanting to slit off of Commifornia, for various reasons (high gas taxes etc.) that I personally would regard as valid. They were gonna call it “Jeffersonia” or some such. Commifornia mainline (mostly Democrat) politicians would NEVER let that happen, of course! (Remote, lightly populated areas have THEIR interests stomped on by the big cities, in general).

                What other cases are there, that stand even a bat’s chances in hell, of ever happening?

                1. Seriously?

                  Statehood for Puerto Rico and the District of Columbia have been on the lips of Democrats for some time now, not to mention Guam.

                  Under Pelosi, the House has already passed a provisional D.C. statehood bill back in June. All but one Democrat voted in favor of D.C. statehood.

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    4. That’s the interpretation of the guy writing this law. The state supreme court said otherwise, and any federal judge trying it will have to cede to their decision as this is a state matter, not a federal matter. It’s funny to watch closet republicans on this site claiming to be libertarians trying to justify republican shenanigans and voter disenfranchisement.

      1. Really?

        Because I was entertained by closet democrats here trying to be libertarians.

      2. How is “Abide by the law” the same as “voter disenfranchisement”. The GOP is not asking for any new laws or any changes to laws. They are asking for the law to be abided by as written.

    5. Uh…based on this

      Under Texas law, the only people eligible to use curbside or drive-through voting are individuals with disabilities who otherwise cannot haul themselves into a polling place.

      Why was this article written?

      1. Well, if the state or locality was allowing people to drop off ballots in a way that isn’t allowed under the law, then they fucked over those voters, not the people suing to have the votes thrown out.

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      Judicial Watch Discovers 1.8 Million “Ghost Voters” In 29 States – Warns Of “Dirty Elections”
      “In other words, the registration rates of those counties exceeded 100% of eligible voters. The study found eight states showing state-wide registration rates exceeding 100%: Alaska, Colorado, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Vermont,” reported Tom Fitton, president of the watchdog group.

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  2. Not likely to matter if it did as Clinton’s margin was about 150k votes in Harris. And libertarians don’t have Johnson so that vote total is going to drop. But pretty funny if it works.

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    2. “libertarians don’t have Johnson”

      Sadly, this too often seems to be true.

    3. It does matter because these votes are for an absolute number of votes in the state and not “just in Harris county”. All those votes make a difference if it’s a close race statewide for President.

  3. So Boehm is for arbitrary election rules that are not uniform in a state? The law is the law. The local agencies knew the law as they are trained in it throughlut the year.

    The people you should be pissed at are those who knowingly violated election laws and put voters ballots at risk.

    You should also be at least someone transparent and mention the cases of voter fraud that have been uncovered in South Texas from project Veritas or the mayoral candidate who was indicted.

      1. The law is the law is THE LAW, dammit, and let there be NO ambiguities in interpretations! Especially when “enemy votes” can be under-counted!

        Will JesseSPAZ say the same things under (for example) a Bidentatorshit, or other “D” regime, when mostly “R” ballots are undercounted or invalidated? Inquiring minds want to KNOW, dammit!

        1. So going to add anarchist to your racist, socialist, shit eating adjective list?

          You don’t change laws by ignoring them shit for breath, but by changing the law.

          1. And hang out to twist in the wind, the innocents who were given supposedly-wrong instructions according to The Eminent Legal Scholar, JesseSPAZ… But ONLY when the innocents are of the WRONG political party, right, JesseSPAZ? What happened to “mens rea”, the guilty mind? Their minds were guilty of largely being Democrats, right? And utter anarchy would follow from all this lawlessness, but ONLY if the Democrat votes prevail over the Republicans? So rule according to the best guesses of the political stripes of the voters, according to The Eminent Legal Scholar, JesseSPAZ!!!

            All Hail The Eminent Legal Scholar, JesseSPAZ, then!!!

            1. These are not all Dem votes. There are plenty of Repubs in Houston and they are just as likely to have voted illegally. The judge should rule quickly so they can go back and vote in person in accordance to the law.

              1. Do the voters exist in order to properly obey every nook and cranny of the system? Or does the system exist in order to serve the voters, to allow some decent compromise between ease of voting, and keeping fraud to an absolute bare minimum? I think something got inverted along the line here somewhere…

                We’re not talking FRAUD here, right? We’re talking nit-picking! HOW MUCH nit-picking will voters put up with, HOW MANY times will they need to vote AGAIN, before they feel severely disrespected by Government Almighty? And give up?

                1. lol.. Jesse supplied many links that were EXACTLY multiple-felony fraud (harvesting scheme’s) and you’re still going to play the No big deal game????

                  1. These people used electronic voting while sitting in their cars… SAME scheme as electronic voting in general. Show your ID, all the same. Did the presence of cars, in the scheme, somehow introduce car-generated magic booger-beams and cheater beams? What is your theory? ANY evidence of fraud at ALL? In THIS case?

                    No, the only fraud is YOU and your power-pig fascism, whereby fraud is an EXCUSE to weed out “undesirables” and their votes!

                    1. No, the only fraud is YOU and your power-pig fascism, whereby fraud is an EXCUSE to weed out “undesirables” and their votes!

                      Don't flatter yourself. The majority of these votes are likely for Trump.

                      People are getting tired of the righteous indignation of pink and blue haired gender neutrals incessantly complaining and demanding entitlement to our money, traded from our labor, abilities, and struggles, while they smash our storefronts and loot our shops after we told them to FO and leave us alone about baking their queer cakes for their queer activity.

                      It's like the gender neutral sexless alien...

                      https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/3657265/doctors-man-remove-genitals-sexless-alien-unable-urinate/

                      ...wants to come and be a salesman for your car dealership, and if you don't hire it, its time for a discrimination lawsuit. And people are tired of your shit.

                2. Do the voters exist in order to properly obey every nook and cranny of the system? Or does the system exist in order to serve the voters…

                  The system exists to serve the voters who demand people obey every nook and cranny of the system that they voted on.

              2. Fuck that. Everyone sees right through this bullshit. No reasonable person would see this as anything but naked vote suppression. Cute how you pretend that this about some just application of the law. Nobody is buying it.

                1. Fuck off to your Antifa riot, tankie.

                2. Hey another leftist who things voting laws should be different based on location and concentration of voters. Because that is what is happening dickwad. Do you ever think your position? Some when do libertarians want partisan advantages. It is one thing to say this voter change applied to the entire state, but it didn’t.

                  Youre really really dumb. And partisan.

                3. “…No reasonable person would see this as anything but naked vote suppression…”

                  Just like nominating the SC justice before an election is ‘packing the court’, lefty shit?

                4. Yes. WE see you defending democrats changing voter rules only on their locality.

                  This was not a uniform change. Youre defending outright gaming of the system.

                5. No reasonable person would see this as anything but naked vote suppression.

                  Don't flatter yourself. Most of the votes from these blue regions are for Trump anyways. The majority don't want short-circuiting Biden soon to be replaced by communist Harris:

                  https://www.dailywire.com/news/harris-promotes-equity-in-new-video-gets-ripped-for-going-woke-marxist-hours-before-election-day

            2. I like how you are advocating different voting laws based on location. Not based on equality of votes for the full state, but you know some extra help for just specific areas.

              Youre a partisan ignoramus dickhead. Youre how banana republics exist.

            3. “nd hang out to twist in the wind, the innocents who were given supposedly-wrong instructions according to The Eminent Legal Scholar, JesseSPAZ… But ONLY when the innocents are of the WRONG political party, right, JesseSPAZ? What happened to “mens rea”, the guilty mind? Their minds were guilty of largely being Democrats, right? And utter anarchy would follow from all this lawlessness, but ONLY if the Democrat votes prevail over the Republicans? So rule according to the best guesses of the political stripes of the voters, according to The Eminent Legal Scholar, JesseSPAZ!!!”

              The Democrats fucked them over. It’s kinda sad.

              Like if your accountant says you can take a deduction you legally cannot and the IRS audits you…it doesn’t matter if you followed advice. You will still have to pay the money.

    1. The “law” could very well reasonably be read to allow the voting at issue.

      1. No it can’t. The law is clear what the curbside exemptions are. It even states it in this article.

        1. The Texas Election Code explicitly provides for temporary branch polling places in “any stationary structure” or “movable structure.” This is not about curbside voting.

          1. Again, the law is clearly laid out in this article. You aew wrong. Youre just rationalizing your reasoning.

            1. The legal issue is not about curbside voting, it is about standing and if a tent counts as a voting place. I posted the link to the brief in another thread.

              1. So the courts are going to decide then. Good. You were wrong.

              2. The legal issue is not about curbside voting, it is about standing and if a tent counts as a voting place. I posted the link to the brief in another thread.

                This is not correct. The documentation explicitly states:

                By indiscriminately encouraging and allowing any and all Harris County registered voters to cast their ballots via curbside drive-thru voting, Defendant is violating both federal and state law, and Plaintiffs will suffer irreparable injury if such ultra vires action is not stopped. By circumventing the Texas Legislature and implementing a manner of voting not recognized under the Texas Election Code, Defendant is violating Article I, section IV, clause 1 of the United States Constitution. Additionally, by adopting a manner of voting that is inconsistent with the T33exas Election Code, and upon information and belief not adopted by any other county in Texas, Defendant is violating the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

                The problem is some factions got curbside voting and other factions did not. I thought you closet democrats calling yourself libertarians while smoking a joint and claiming moral righteousness while a psycho on hallucinogenic bath salts down the road shoots someone during his psycho rampage while you spout "my body my choice" with a smile on your retarded face were all about "equality" and such.

    2. They verified it with a bipartisan committee of republicans and democrats and that is state law. You closet republicans can’t reverse this. These votes count no matter how much you’d like to disenfranchise anyone who isn’t voting republican.

      1. Don't flatter yourself. These were mostly republican votes. Only a moron is going to vote for short-circuiting Biden:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuIjn6EEIV8

        soon to be replaced with communist Harris:

        https://www.dailywire.com/news/harris-promotes-equity-in-new-video-gets-ripped-for-going-woke-marxist-hours-before-election-day

  4. Under the “doctrine of laches,” lawsuits must be filed in a timely manner. “This lawsuit could have come weeks ago and there’s no excuse to have waited,”

    The lawsuit happened months ago. The new case is a federal appeals. They waited until it went through the state courts and all means were resolved as the process intends.

    1. By the way… this puts Justice Robert’s in a bind. He has basically pushed a system of changes by the judicial are reversed while upholding changes by the legislature. The covid exemption asked for here was not done by the legislature.

    2. This is not an appeal. It is a new lawsuit in a federal forum. Appeals are not taken from a state court of last resort to federal district court. There is no reason the plaintiffs could not have raised their claim in a more timely manner.

      1. Except federal courts are not supposed to intervene in state matters until all state Court avenues are taken. Stop being dishonest.

  5. Good. It’s honestly too easy to vote, especially given how many people are completely ignorant of politics. If you can’t go to the polls on election day, then you don’t care enough, so fuck off.

    1. So people decide to vote, but because they don’t vote the way you want them to, it doesn’t count.

      1. So people decide to vote, and if someone does not come to their house and let them vote from their sofa, they are being oppressed?

      2. So people decide to vote, but because they don’t vote the way you want them to, it doesn’t count.

        No - it's not because of the way "he" wanted them to vote. It is the method by which the community decided to vote, that the community decided with votes.

    2. I agree. I don’t think it is necessarily good to encourage people to vote when they don’t really know what they are voting for. Absentee ballots for pepople who legitimately can’t get to the polls. Everyone else can get off their butts and go to the polls if it’s important to them.

  6. Sounds like a serious fraud hotspot to me and it sounds like Boehm knows it.

    1. Maybe Boehm needs three Veritas videos out of Harris County before he agrees there might be a bit of fraud here?

  7. It’s the ‘ new normal’ , don’t you all understand???? Any chance a pol can take to get more power they will take be cause it’s a ‘crisis’. I think Trump is an ass, and not that smart. That said, what the dems want to do scares me.

    1. “That said, what the dems want to do scares me.”

      Will do, clinger. Not want to do. Will do.

      And you will comply.

      1. Sounds like you have both varieties of TDS. Classic Trump Derangement Syndrome and a chronic case of Tiny Dick Syndrome.

      2. It’s funny that you talk like this, when we all j is if any one of us ever met you in person, that you would beg like a wino with the shakes not to receive a well deserved beating. This is because you are a gutless, collectivist piece of shit hiding behind the skirts of others.

      3. “That said, what the dems want to do scares me.”

        Will do, clinger. Not want to do. Will do.

        And you will comply.

        ^^^ The democrat party in a nutshell! LOL

  8. Two more days, bigots.

    The reckoning approaches.

    Gun nuts, uneducated bigots, anti-abortion absolutists, disaffected clingers, anti-social incels, religious kooks, faux libertarians, backwater yokels hardest hit.

    1. Keep on clingin’, gecko.

    2. Amen. Let’s hope it’s a landslide so the other side can shut the fuck up about someone stealing the election.

      1. Lol. And chipper goes full partisan.

      2. Something tells me you’ll be here wailing and gnashing your teeth if it’s a Trump landslide.

    3. D-

      You’re just not trolling at the level of Hihn or Mary Stack. Try harder.

    4. Too bad you can’t count. Even if Trump loses this election, he’s still President until Jan 20, 2021. If Sotomayor drops dead tomorrow, there’s still time to push through one more SCOTUS Justice.

      Also, your desire to dominate and control other people is psychotic.

    5. big·ot /ˈbiɡət/

      a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

      See Rev. Arthur L. Kirkland as an example.

    6. Two more days, bigots.

      The reckoning approaches.

      Gun nuts, uneducated bigots, anti-abortion absolutists, disaffected clingers, anti-social incels, religious kooks, faux libertarians, backwater yokels hardest hit.,

      Definitely not a libertarian this one. Funny too. Calls people "bigots" then proceeds to call them incels, kooks, and yokels. LOL. Obviously incapable of seeing their own bigotry.

      Says a "reckoning" is coming. I guess they are voting for short-circuiting Biden:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuIjn6EEIV8

      soon to be replaced with communist Harris:

      https://www.dailywire.com/news/harris-promotes-equity-in-new-video-gets-ripped-for-going-woke-marxist-hours-before-election-day

  9. “They were merely complying with instructions passed along by county election officials.”

    Sorry Eric, “I was just following orders” went out as an excuse after Nuremberg. Funny thing; when I pressed the county council about the mayor’s imperial edict about “cloth face coverings”, I got a response the it was “an unenforceable mandate”. I decided I really didn’t want to follow up on that oxymoron.
    Don’t make me pass a constitutional amendment prohibiting electoral changes within 60 days of an election.

    1. So following orders on how to vote, on trying to make democracy work, is now equivalent to following orders on how to mass-murder Jews and other “defectives”? Wow, what depths of logic-mangling and depravity will we fall to, next?

      1. Youre somehow becoming more pathetic than usual. Why? Who hurt you?

        1. You’re losing the argument, JesseSPAZ, because you’re as stupid as you are evil. So you resort to name-calling. What a (pathetic) surprise!

          1. No, you’re just ignorant. You literally created a name for me shit for breath. Youre not one to talk. You even made a name to do it shitty.

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              Orange Man bad?!? He BAD, all right! He SOOO BAD, He be GOOD! He be GREAT! He Make America Great Again!

              We KNOW He can Make America Great Again, because, as a bad-ass businessman, He Made Himself and His Family Great Again! He Pussy Grabber in Chief!

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              He pussy-grab His creditors in 7 bankruptcies, His illegal sub-human workers ripped off of pay on His building projects, and His “students” in His fake Get-Rich-like-Me realty schools, and so on. So, He has a GREAT record of ripping others off! So SURELY He can rip off other nations, other ethnic groups, etc., in trade wars and border wars, for the benefit of ALL of us!!!

              All Hail to THE Pussy Grabber in Chief!!!

              Most of all, HAIL the Chief, for having revoked karma! What comes around, will no longer go around!!! The Donald has figured out that all of the un-Americans are SOOO stupid, that we can pussy-grab them all day, every day, and they will NEVER think of pussy-grabbing us right back!

              Orange Man Bad-Ass Pussy-Grabber all right!

              We CAN grab all the pussy, all the time, and NONE will be smart enough to EVER grab our pussies right back!

              These voters simply cannot or will not recognize the central illusion of politics… You can pussy-grab all of the people some of the time, and you can pussy-grab some of the people all of the time, but you cannot pussy-grab all of the people all of the time! Sooner or later, karma catches up, and the others will pussy-grab you right back!

              1. Reads like it’s out of meth. Unfortunately, not out of internet access though.

              2. Kill yourself Squirrelly.

            2. Hey Sqrls, Orangemanbad.

              3… 2… 1…

              LOL!!!

              You wrote this, and then he replied with a giant essay of outrage! You win the internet today. You played him like a fiddle.

        2. I just want him to harm himself. With finality.

          1. Shitsy Shitler, drinking Shitsy Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…

            He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
            Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
            Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
            Has no thoughts that help the people,
            He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
            On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
            Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
            Kool-Aid man, please listen,
            You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
            Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
            The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!

            A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
            https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/

            Hey Shitsy Shitler…
            If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
            Who would feed you? Who’s tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
            You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!

  10. To those saying that “the law is the law and the board of elections can not change the law”: These were not “curbside voting”, but normal voting, but in tents and in cars. It takes a bit of nitpicking Texas law in order to find these voting locations to be illegal. The tent voting was reasonably established and reasonably signed off on. If they want to declare it illegal based on their technical reading ok, then no tent voting in the future, but cancelling already cast ballots is just absurd.

    1. “Under Texas law, the only people eligible to use curbside or drive-through voting are individuals with disabilities who otherwise cannot haul themselves into a polling place.”

      As tempting as it is to label everyone in blue zones disabled, if you can get your butt into the polling place you don’t get a special exemption. TDS isn’t (yet) considered a disability crippling enough that it prevents you from going about your normal life.

      1. These polling places were not curbside. They were normal polling places, but in tents. The curb side polling law does not apply.

        1. I know you are a troll, but the article clearly stated they were letting every resident of the county vote by driving through, which is what the law only allows for the disabled.

          Can we get some better, more literate trolls? Is it too much to ask?

          1. I am not a troll, I read the legal documents in the case, they are not using the curbside rules, they are using normal polling location rules. The Texas Election Code explicitly provides for temporary branch polling places in “any stationary structure” or “movable structure.”

            http://www.search.txcourts.gov/SearchMedia.aspx?MediaVersionID=e170aabd-c0e2-4d38-9f9d-9e120ae3089c&coa=cossup&DT=BRIEFS&MediaID=8409ce3c-cbc8-4af4-8187-bec9fe14ef85

            1. No, you’re posturing the defenses side as fact. Youre an idiot. All you’re doing is reciting the brief of the defense, not the law.

              1. I have read more of the court documents and the others make the same point. I only posted one of them.

    2. Normal voting in cars? Sure Jan.

    3. Molly, I happen to agree with you. However, I can understand the interpretation they give, and I can accept the frustration of people when changes to voting procedure are forced through at last measure without any congressional approval.

      While I think the party should lose this lawsuit, I cannot fault them for bringing it. Given that this lawsuit has been in the works for months now on the state level, I also cannot fault them for pushing forward on every avenue on what they perceive to be an injustice long past the timeline they had initially envisaged.

  11. Republicans are trying to cancel more than 100,000 illegally cast ballots in a deep blue part of Texas, you mendacious twat.

    1. They were legally cast at the time, and still legal. They want to retroactively declare them illegal based on their technical interpretation of the law.

      1. But the judges are totally unbiased! Just following the law! They have ZERO political motives, ever! Judges NEVER have political opinions or biases; they are rational and legalistic super-beings!

        (Sarc/)

      2. Thats what the court case is for dummy. To determine if they were legal or not.

        Some of you really need to retake elementary civics.

        1. Pretty funny for a high school drop-out telling other people they need to retake a class.

          1. Interesting…

            He still posts more intelligent things than you have for the last year or two.

          2. Famous chipper comedy folks. Page right out of pee wee herman. I know you are but what am I. Lol.

          3. Even if he did drop out, he’s not wrong.

      3. Now do Title IX.

  12. The voters cast their votes in good faith following official instructions. I don’t see how anyone could justify throwing them out.

    1. Good for you, Echospinner! You can’t see the “justification” for what travesty might happen here… Because you have at least a modicum of decency, benevolence, and common sense! Which, as we have observed, is contrary to the spell that has somehow been cast across huge masses of “R” voters these days, by Trump…

      1. You would be better off if you committed suicide.

      2. It seems to me that the officials who instituted this voting method should be punished with violating election laws. But to penalize the voters is punishing the innocent. They should be given a chance to verify their votes before the polls close on Tuesday, or have them thrown out.

  13. The issue isn’t whether or not the voters did anything wrong but that the state, again, exceeded it’s authority.

    So, red or.blue, if the state broke the law, then those votes need to be dropped.

    Let’s not forget that election procedures are important to prevent opportunities for tampering, governments need to be kept of a tight leash, and how many Republican votes would also be thrown out?

    I doubt that everyone there voted Democrat.

    1. Good thing there’s still a remedy. People can cast their ballots in person, and unlike recent elections, they aren’t restricted to the voting location in their precinct.

      I voted here already. Looked at the Harris County voting website (harrisvotes.com) and found a map with polling places near me, with forecasted wait times. The whole thing took 10 minutes, counting parking.

  14. This lawsuit is fertilizer. It is one thing to question late arriving ballots it is another to attempt to take votes like this made in time and in good faith. The short term gain is keeping an incompetent President. But this will go down as infamous. A party is so afraid of voters it is willing to have their ballots tossed on what might be a minor technicality. This is third world dictator stuff and history will remember it.

    1. A party is so afraid of voters it is willing to have their ballots tossed on what might be a minor technicality.

      There’s plenty of blame to go around concerning “good faith” and “minor technicalities”. 8-(

      1. I am not aware of any party other than the Republicans trying to throw out votes. Could you elaborate on who else you would consider trying to stop voting.

        1. Are you fucking kidding? What about all the examples of voter fraud and stolen ballots of late?

      2. Only the Republicans are trying toss votes, because they know they can’t win an honest majority.

        1. When the Democrats are manufacturing them, it’s easy to get that majority figure.

        2. This is only what, the 20th? 25th? time that the Dems have been caught trying to commit fraud this election?

          1. As much as you would prefer otherwise, black get to vote too you evil ghoul.

          2. Most of the documented cases of voter fraud have been by Republicans. Look it up. Google is your friend.

            1. Here is a whole database retard. Prove your assertion.

              https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud

              1. 1,298 cases of voter fraud. That’s the big problem we have to fix with all this draconian shit?

                1. Yes Tony, that’s all there is. It’s not like you’re just too stupid to understand that isn’t all of them.

                2. Jay walking never happens. Go look at your cities convictions. It is proof nobody ever Jay walks.

                  This is the argument you are making tony. Leftist AGs don’t look for voter fraud, so of course they won’t find it. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

                  And 1k cases doesn’t mean 1k votes dummy.

                  1. You’re so fucked. It’s going to take an enormous effort to reprogram you Republi-bots. Probably with my tax money.

        3. No side chipper folks!

    2. Fertilizer is useful. Leftists are not.

      1. Unless they’re turned into fertilizer, which they need to be.

        1. That would be good. Thin the herd.

  15. What goes around, comes around. In multiple battleground states, the Dems used far more trivial technicalities to purge the Green Party from the ballot itself.

    1. That is true. And such efforts should always be condemned. But two wrongs don’t make a right.

      1. “And such efforts should always be condemned.”

        Just not by you. Go fuck yourself, troll.

      2. So cite the times you called those initial issues out. Cmon neutral chipper.

  16. This is bullshit. If you click through to the story, voters used electronic voting machines that were brought to their car.

    They weren’t using some other random form of paper ballot.

    I can’t imagine how you’d invalidate those specific votes and I wouldn’t be cool with the precedent of carving out votes that happened on premises during voting hours with official equipment.

    “ A poll worker feeds a voting machine and power cord through a voter’s car window in the drive-thru line at NRG Park in Houston during the first day of early voting on Oct. 13, 2020”

  17. I’m pretty disturbed by the many rule-following automaton-brained comments here, as in other places (topics).

    Does the State exist to serve individuals? Or do individuals exist to serve the State? If you give the latter answer, you are an authoritarian, and history has yielded WAAAAY bleak results, EVERY TIME that your approach has been tried!

    Do the rules and laws about voting, exist to serve the voters? To enable easy voting, while minimizing fraud? Or do the voters EXIST TO SERVE THE SYSTEM AND ITS NIT-PICKING RULES?!?! The latter answer indicates that you are an authoritarian, lusting after the next dictatorshit! “Rules were followed”, Hoo-Ray!

    I hate to show my age, but I recall (only a wee tad about) a Supreme Court case decades ago… The SCROTUS said it did NOT care about whether or not an innocent man was jailed or “capitally punished”, we don’t care about that. We are High and Mighty… We don’t “wash windows”, as the editorial at the time said. THAT (making sure we don’t punish the innocents) is BENEATH us High Folks! We ONLY care about whether the RULES AND PROCEDURES were properly followed!

    Assholes all of them! Assholes ALL of ye, who can NOT properly answer the question of, “Who serves whom? We the people, or THE SYSTEM?” Ye, too, are short-sighted assholes! Incapable of wisdom or justice!

    1. A quick search yields only this.. I cannot find the decades-old case. But, a system that does NOT give ONE tiny shit about guilt or innocence? Yes, we have that today! And we are ALL too High and Mighty, TOO entirely consumed about Obeying The System, and Parsing The Rules, to give a shit about NOT punishing the innocent! Rules were obeyed? OK then, who gives a shit about punishing the innocent? Not me; I (like almost all of the rest of us) am an Eminent Legal Scholar, concerned ONLY about making sure that Systematic Rules Were Followed! NOT punishing the innocent? Bwah-ha-ha! Let the peons concern themselves about such mundane matters; I am above all of that! Let them perish in the gas showers or the ovens, so long as “rules of the system were followed” properly! How have we come to this, and why are we pushing further in this direction?

      https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/09/innocence-is-irrelevant/534171/
      Innocence Is Irrelevant
      This is the age of the plea bargain—and millions of Americans are suffering the consequences.

      EMILY YOFFE
      SEPTEMBER 2017 ISSUE

      1. Hey Sqrls, Orangemanbad.

    2. Honest elections for a state reauire uniform voting laws shit for breath.

      You want different rules for different parties.

      1. I want the state (the systems) to serve the people. You want the people (voters) to serve the State… Or, more properly speaking, the REPUBLICAN State only! You are an authoritarian, one-party, mendacious, Trumptatorshit-lusting, fascist asshole! You want the rule of one party only! Move to Mainland China, please! You can have what you are looking for, there! Or in North Korea, or Cuba!

        1. You are litealy advocating for location based voting laws. You want different voting actions for different areas. You want places to be advantaged over others.

          Youre just too dumb to think your argument out.

  18. It’s not voter suppression, you liars, it’s preventing cheating. Which is happening all over the place, more than most elections.

    1. See the post above by Bubba Jones. Now please explain to us, how there was any fraud involved here in this case, in the Houston area? Or any more so than regular electronic votes, NOT done while sitting in your car? Does your car emit some sort of “cheater beams”, and if so, how? Or is “preventing cheating” a blank check for disenfranchising the undesirables?

      1. Reason continues to buy every bullshit argument the dems offer up to shift the election in their favor. Repeatedly change election laws at the last minute for reasons? SURE! Why not!

        1. PA should be especially fun, this time around.

          1. They’ve assembled quite the voter fraud team

    2. Throwing out legally cast ballots is about as voter suppression as it gets.

  19. At least now that the fascism is out in the open, you vote suppressing lunatics can all go suck a fucking dick and cry. Keep crying until you’re dead. This is America. We obliterate fascists.

    1. That word, I don’t think it means what you think it does.

      1. Unfortunately it’s all too apt right at this moment.

        1. Fascism is not whatever Republicans do just like Communism isn’t whatever Democrats do.

          1. But it’s what Republicans are doing right now.

            So we cried wolf a couple times when they were merely invading countries based on lies and torturing people.

        2. How do you define “fascism” and how do you figure Republicans are acting like fascists? I’m genuinely curious.

  20. The voter suppression that Republicans engage in all over the country would seem to be the kind of thing TRUE libertarians would be outraged about. The operative word here being “true,” not the phony libertarians in the comment section.

    After all, a true libertarian believes the marketplace is best suited to handle any problem. It’s their religion. And government obstacles placed in front of that marketplace are anathema to a TRUE libertarian, not the phony libertarians here, however. And an election is nothing but a marketplace.

    It should be easy for a citizen to engage in that marketplace of ideas, not difficult through manufactured obstacles that the Republican Party constantly places in front of them.

    You’d think the writers here at Reason would have their hair on fire about this. At least as much as it was when a President once said “you didn’t build that.” Which pales in comparison as an affront to liberty compared to voter suppression.

    Cue the phony libertarians!

    1. Hi Jackand Ace,

      Please be assured that SOME of us DO care about individual freedom, and honest vote-counting, etc.! SOME of us who post here ARE actually libertarians! Sad to say, we are often few and far between. We get tired of endlessly trying to reason with the unreasonable! But don’t give up the good fight!

      1. Ha! You as well! Keep your voice loud. They hate that! Have a great evening!

      2. We get tired of endlessly trying to reason with the unreasonable!

        LMAO. Dumbfuck HihnSQRLSo is the last poaster that should have any pretense towards reasoning.

    2. To be fair, the libertarian movement has long had leaders who were skeptical of democracy. “Democracy is not the goal. Freedom is the goal,” as they say.

      It’s difficult to win democratically when your platform is cementing all existing privileges and throwing away the safety net for those not lucky enough to benefit.

      But this position fails at logic right out the gate, of course. Even if we agree that the most “pro-freedom” people get to make all the rules, people tend to disagree about what kinds of freedoms are
      Important, or if a laissez-faire economy has anything to do with freedom at all for most people.

      In short, it’s indistinguishable from an argument based on divine right or might makes right.

    3. Democratic elections are not a marketplace. Marketplaces involve voluntary exchange for mutual benefit. Markets reveal preferences by forcing people to consider and rank their priorities in order to maximize value with scarce resources.

      Democracy thrives on the fiction that you can have everything for nothing. Just mass a large enough mob, offload the need for physical violence onto government agent proxies, and you can force your preferences on your neighbors at gunpoint with a clean conscience. And all this for the cost of nothing at all. Just walk into a polling place and mark a ballot.

      Being able to reap all the benefits without any risk of personal investment is the definition of moral hazard.

      1. The problem is all the other options are you shitting on me without bothering to ask permission of me or my neighbors first.

        Trumplicans are not demonstrating a case for why they should be allowed to rule at all, let along against the people’s will.

        1. The problem is all the other options are you shitting on me without bothering to ask permission of me or my neighbors first.

          Maybe if you and your left-wing tankie friends would actually leave people alone in the first place, you wouldn’t need to be shit on.

          1. You don’t even know what the fuck you’re talking about. You think in slogans. There aren’t leftists under your bed. There’s just rightwing propagandists in your brain.

            1. No, there’s not, because if I found a leftist under my bed, I’d shoot him or her without even asking what their preferred pronoun of choice is, and would be within my rights to assume that they were in my home hiding under my bed with intent to harm me or my family.

  21. Just how easy does voting have to be?

    Somehow, regular people have managed to get to a polling place for hundreds of years. When I lived in Houston, it was incredibly easy to vote early at any number of polling places, usually with no wait even after work.

    Now the whiners seem to need infinite ease and accommodation, such that any required effort is claimed to be oppressive disenfranchisement. Of course, the next step for Progressive Democracy is to vote for other people, making the choices that would be best for them.

    1. As easy as it can be while still being secure. Why is that a problem for you? Why entertain this business at all considering the sick history of poll tests and poll taxes in this country? Why put your toe next to that line? Why should voting be hard?

      1. “Why should voting be hard?”

        Because almost every aspect of life is hard, whether it is personal relationship, employment, health, taxes and death. Life is a struggle that forces everyone to approach its challenges with a degree of personal responsibility that largely defines individual success and happiness.

        So why should voting be a mindless, easy endeavor? It should present the same challenges as other basic life functions. Let’s take buying a bus ticket, renting an apartment, opening a bank account. All of these are simply, common tasks that the most mentally/financially challenged adults in society are expected to be able to accomplish.
        Why should voting be easier?

        But we already know the answer to that. So the dems can cheat themselves to power.

    2. It’s crazy how things have become so polarized to the point the simple act of voting becomes an issue.

      That’s how it is here. Walk in. Maybe face a 5 minute wait. Walk up to the table. Give your name. Flash ID. Take the ballot. Go to the booth. Grab the pencil (steal it if that’s how you roll) place an ‘X’ next to the bozo of your choice. Return the ballot. Shove it in the box. Wish everyone a good day. Leave.

      The whole process is maybe three minutes.

      Go treat yourself to an ice-cream because you managed to vote a Goat-Boy could manage without making a Federal case out of it.

      1. Except people are standing in line for hours, and you want to force them all into a smaller voting window on days they have to work. Your scenario is the ideal one, not the real one for many people, and it’s no accident, and you know that.

        1. I’d like to see wait times by election supervisor party.

          Because this has been my voting experience, too – minimal lines, fast, in and out.

          I’m curious if some districts are purposely making voting hell to make people amenable to less secure voting solutions.

        2. Early voting has been going on for weeks, dipshit. What the fuck are you going on about?

          1. Your despicable totalitarian horseshit, of course.

            1. You’re definitely showing why it’s deserved.

          2. Allowing voting too early is a problem. It doesn’t recognize the candidates’ rights to have their entire campaign considered. Make it easy, but 100% secure. No internet voting, but have people request their ballot via the internet. Here in Ohio things work well with very rare problems.

  22. Why does Reason always have a pic with some pantshitter in a mask?

    1. Because “they’re doing their part.” Don’t you care, Rufus?

      1. Meanwhile, modern-day fascists “do their part” to weed out the votes of the “undesirables”! Develop a conscience, power-pigs!

        1. weed out the votes of the “felony-fraud voter harvesting scheme’s”!

          1. These people used electronic voting while sitting in their cars… SAME scheme as electronic voting in general. Show your ID, all the same. Did the presence of cars, in the scheme, somehow introduce car-generated magic booger-beams and cheater beams? What is your theory? ANY evidence of fraud at ALL? In THIS case?

            No, the only fraud is YOU and your power-pig fascism, whereby fraud is an EXCUSE to weed out “undesirables” and their votes!

            WHERE is your evidence of cheating in THIS case? Have you any evidence of car-generated magical vote-boogerer-beams being a real thing?

            1. “Democrats have never cheated in elections in their entire history.”

  23. So; Republican Voter Suppression is now being equated to charging those running voter harvesting schemes with felony charges and being suspision over votes cast in violation of election laws? Holy crap!

    Election laws that have been so mangled over time that CA-illegal-immigrant population gets more representation than 21-other States? And a legitimate form of I.D. cannot even be requested?

    What’s next?

    1. Count the votes and shut the fuck up.

      1. Gargle with some buckshot mouthwash, GRIDSboy.

      2. What has the world come to when I agree with Tony? California is the most populous state, with or without illegal immigrants. It gets more electoral votes because it has more residents. It’s in the Constitution. Instead of thumping it, some people need to be reading it.

        1. it has more residents BECAUSE it has disproportionately more illegal immigrants. Nothing in the U.S. Constitution says let every tourist / visitor in the district vote – the very notion is absurd.

    2. Exactly. Voter ID is a minimal requirement. Votes without it should be tossed out. All of CA, if necessary.

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  25. A lawsuit filed just days before the election asks federal courts to toss out all the votes already cast at drive-through polling stations in Harris County.

    Well, if they were cast in violation of the law, then they should be tossed out. If government officials encouraged or promoted this conduct, then the government officials should be held accountable and the votes should still be tossed out. That’s how the rule of law works.

    1. We voters exist to serve “the laws”, the system? Innocent voters following the rules they were given, deserve to be disenfranchised? So then, this is a clear case of, we the people exist to serve The State and Its Systems… The State does NOT exist to serve US!

      You know, “we the people exist to serve the State” does NOT have a good track record of working very well! If that’s what you want, you can get what you want, by moving to Mainland China, North Korea, or Cuba!

      1. Innocent voters following the rules they were given, deserve to be disenfranchised?

        They weren’t “disenfrachised”, they were the victims of crooks in government who exceeded their authority and giving them incorrect information.

        If that’s what you want, you can get what you want, by moving to Mainland China, North Korea, or Cuba!

        I moved from a place like that to the US, for the very reason that those places do what you advocate: it’s people like you who turn nations into totalitarian hellholes.

        1. “…they were the victims of crooks in government who exceeded their authority and giving them incorrect information.”

          “Incorrect information” as concerns totally trivial bullshit, made up by random and arbitrary politicians, which is completely unrelated to efficient and fraud-resistant voting! And State-and-rules-worshipping totalitarians like YOU side with the STATE (and the supposedly rules-breaking politicians) over the PEOPLE! So in YOUR mind, you totally agree with those (when they side with Trump, at least) who believe that the should-be-silly-rules-following people-sheeple exist to serve the Almighty State, and not vice versa! If you are THAT addicted to “citizens serve the State, and not vice versa”. PLEASE go back to North Korea, or wherever it is that you came from! THEY can keep you happy!

          1. And State-and-rules-worshipping totalitarians like YOU side with the STATE

            SQRLSY One, I’m sorry you are so confused about the relationship between citizens, the state, and the law. See, it’s the rule of law that constrains the state from overreach and from turning citizens into servants of the state. You argue that agents of the state should be able to ignore the laws that constrain them at their leisure. That is the essence of totalitarianism: state power unconstrained by laws. That is what you advocate.

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  27. “Republicans Are Trying To Cancel More Than 100,000 Votes in a Deep Blue Part of Texas”

    That’s nothing compared to the conspiracy by Democrats, Reason and nearly all other left wing propaganda/media outlets to once again steal the election from Trump (by refusing to truthfully inform Americans about Joe Biden’s corrupt dealings with foreign countries to enrich his family).

  28. For decades the Republicans told me that the Democrats lie, cheat, and steal to win their elections. Every election there is a line of Republicans queued up to tell the talk shows all about the horrible voter fraud the Democrats are engaged in.

    This year it’s the Republicans who are doing it. This story is from Texas, a safe red state. Makes no sense. I’ve seen in in my home state of California, a safe blue state. Makes no sense.

    I hate the Democrats, but the Republicans are going to lose this round. Trying to cheat to win it just makes them pathetic. At least they could lose with some dignity and honor. They need to disintegrate and dissolve so some conservatives can move in and create a new right of center party.

    1. This year it’s the Republicans who are doing it. This story is from Texas, a safe red state.

      How does filing a lawsuit requesting compliance with voting laws amount to “stealing an election”?

      If Democrat-controlled areas unilaterally and in violation of election rules make voting easier for people in their area, that amounts to “stealing the election”. Voting laws and procedures need to be uniform throughout a state, otherwise elections are not “free and fair”.

      1. “State election officials had previously signaled that Harris County’s drive-through voting plans were legally permissible. ”

        Guess what jackass didn’t even read the article?

        1. “State election officials had previously signaled that Harris County’s drive-through voting plans were legally permissible. ”

          Guess what jackass didn’t even read the article?

          I did read the article, you’re just missing the point. The written law is clear: these votes are invalid. If courts permit these votes to be counted based on the bad advice from a part of the executive branch, they allow the executive branch to override the laws as passed by the legislature. That is the path to tyranny and dictatorship.

  29. Pretty SOP by the Republicans- they’ll cheat whatever way they can. Heaven forbid they win democratically. Trump himself even says that if everyone voted there’s no way the Rs would win.

    Maybe they could just stop being shitty and sabotaging democracy at every turn?

  30. Kind of curious that this Reason article doesn’t mention two important facts.

    First, Harris County got permission from the Texas Secretary of State to do this. They weren’t going rogue, reinterpreting things willy-nilly, or any of that. They asked permission, got it, and proceeded.

    Second, all that happened back in July.

    But hey, what’s a little thing like “details” to a journalist? Or Reason commentators?

    1. First, Harris County got permission from the Texas Secretary of State to do this.

      The Texas secretary of state is part of the executive branch and therefore also lacks the authority to change voting procedures beyond what the law permits. Only the legislature can change voting laws, pandemic or not.

  31. https://www.npr.org/2020/11/02/930365888/federal-judge-dismisses-effort-to-throw-out-drive-through-votes-in-houston

    Federal Judge Dismisses Effort To Throw Out Drive-Through Votes In Houston
    November 2, 20203:27 PM ET

    Common sense and decency prevails! Woo-Hoo!!!

    “The voters exist to serve the system’s nit-picking rules” folks lose! Government Almighty exists to serve the people (not vice versa) wins!!! Need MORE of this PLEASE!!!!

    1. Hanen said that if he found the plaintiffs did have standing, he would have still ruled against them “as to the voting that has already taken place,” but that he would “probably enjoin tomorrow’s votes.”

      IOW, even according to this judge, the voting is actually in violation of the law and should not have been permitted.

      In any case, it’s unlikely that this will matter at this point; Texas will go overwhelmingly Republican. Do you seriously think people who vote for Cornyn are going to vote for Biden?

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