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New FCC Nominee Has Already Been Helping Trump Try To Censor Social Media

Plus: America's global prestige continues to drop, marijuana law enforcement is still racist, Wisconsin and Minnesota voters prefer Biden, and more...

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Trump nominates Nathan Simington to Federal Communications Commission (FCC). When both presidential contenders—incumbent President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden—want to repeal Section 230 of federal communications law, it's perhaps the best indicator that doing so is a bad idea. As First Amendment lawyer and law professor Eric Goldman put it earlier this summer: "Turns out that censorship is a bipartisan objective."

The popularity among politicians for destroying this free speech-protective law proves yet again how appealing censorship is to both Republicans and Democrats. It seems like every week in 2020, we get a new and devastating reminder of this unfortunate fact. Today, it comes in the form of Trump's new nominee for Federal Communications Commission commissioner: Nathan Simington.

The first sign that this is no good for social media and the internet is that Simington is a veteran telecom lawyer. But he's not just any telecom lawyer. "Simington, a senior adviser at the National Telecommunications and Information Administration (NTIA), played a significant role in drafting a petition required under the Trump administration's social media executive order issued over the summer," reports The Verge. That NTIA petition was central to Trump's gambit to get the FCC to reinterpret Section 230. (Read more about Trump's overreaching and yet also relatively toothless order here.)

"Simington's nomination marks a significant break in the Trump administration's former FCC nominations," notes The Verge's Makena Kelly. "Previously, the administration has nominated Republican commissioners in favor of light-touch telecommunications and technology policy." And "if Simington's nomination is approved in the Senate, the FCC would have two Republican commissioners likely in favor of voting to approve the administration's social media order," Kelly points out.

Simington would take the place of FCC Commissioner Mike O'Rielly, who describes himself as "extremely dedicated to First Amendment" and—unlike some of his colleagues—has declined to be a total Trump bootlicker. Trump had nominated O'Rielly for a third term as an FCC commissioner until O'Rielly gave a speech critical of Trump administration tech and speech policy in July. The White House promptly announced that it was pulling O'Rielly's nomination.

"In other words, the White House is being a petty asshole, again, and firing anyone for not being in lockstep with the President's ridiculous unconstitutional whims," commented Mike Masnick at Techdirt.

Sen. Ron Wyden (D–Ore.), one of the co-authors of Section 230, told The Verge that Trump's order is wrong about how Section 230 works (and so are politicians like Sens. Josh Hawley of Missouri and Ted Cruz of Texas). "What Chris Cox and I tried to do in Section 230, I think it's still valid today, is we wanted to empower free speech and moderation. These other ideas have one thing in common. They would restrict free speech in order to force moderation," said Wyden in August. Asked then to speculate on who Trump would nominate to replace O'Rielly, he said:

So my guess is that the president will insist on somebody who's going to push the policy that Twitter should have to publish his lies and somehow twist and turn the FCC into a forum that unravels Section 230 and basically kind of forfeit any sense of independence. And I've got a track record of fighting that kind of nominee, and we'll certainly have tough questions to ask in any kind of confirmation process.

I've got to think that a nominee to the Federal Communications Commission from the Trump administration is somebody who basically is prepared to carry out every dotted I and every crossed T of the president's anti-230 policy. I think the bottom line is basically about working the refs, bullying the tech companies, and forcing Twitter and other platforms to print his lies.


FREE MINDS

America's global prestige continues to drop. "Since Donald Trump took office as president, the image of the United States has suffered across many regions of the globe," says the Pew Research Center, reporting on a new survey of people in 13 countries that explores how "America's reputation has declined further over the past year among many key allies and partners."

"In several countries, the share of the public with a favorable view of the U.S. is as low as it has been at any point since the Center began polling on this topic nearly two decades ago," the nonprofit, nonpartisan polling organization notes:

For instance, just 41% in the United Kingdom express a favorable opinion of the U.S., the lowest percentage registered in any Pew Research Center survey there. In France, only 31% see the U.S. positively, matching the grim ratings from March 2003, at the height of U.S.-France tensions over the Iraq War. Germans give the U.S. particularly low marks on the survey: 26% rate the U.S. favorably, similar to the 25% in the same March 2003 poll.

Read more findings from Pew's new survey here.


FREE MARKETS

Black people account for nearly 90 percent of marijuana arrests in Washington, D.C., where decriminalization of marijuana possession was supposed to help ease racial discrimination in policing and disparities in drug arrests. But "five years after the city enacted reforms that proponents hoped would end racial disparities in enforcement," D.C. cops are still "far more likely to arrest Blacks than Whites for marijuana-related offenses," according to The Washington Post:

Although marijuana arrests have declined by more than half, African Americans still account for just under 90 percent of those arrested on all pot-related charges, according to a Washington Post analysis, even as they make up 45 percent of the city's population.

And while studies show that marijuana use is equally prevalent among Blacks and Whites, 84 percent of more than 900 people arrested for public consumption in the nation's capital were African American in the four years after legalization.

More here.


ELECTION 2020 

Biden has a significant lead in the latest polls from some key Midwestern states:


QUICK HITS

  • Department of Homeland Security whistleblower Brian Murphy claims that (perhaps illegitimate) acting secretary of the department, Chad Wolf, told him "to cease providing intelligence assessments on the threat of Russian interference in the United States, and instead start reporting on interference activities by China and Iran."
  • A judge in Pennsylvania set bail for people arrested on riot charges at a recent protest at $1 million apiece.
  • "Four years ago I was a 'Never Trump' voter," writes longtime libertarian Walter Olson, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, in the Wall Street Journal. "Now, I'm more set than ever in that view: No Trump, doubled. That's even though I far prefer his economic policies to those of the Democrats."
  • "The recent case of a young teen with autism who was shot by the police in a Salt Lake City suburb, after his mother called the police while he was in crisis, raises some serious questions,"

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  1. America’s global prestige continues to drop.

    Wake me when they stop running to the American taxpayer for all their problems.

    1. Yet they still run across the border whenever they get the chance.

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      2. Maybe they want to help us improve.

    2. Germans give the U.S. particularly low marks on the survey: 26%

      Oh, boo fucking hoo! We are not favorites among the descendants of the actual nazis that we beat in a war or the leftover commies that we beat in a cold war.

      1. They want to have close economic ties with Putin, yet demand that Americans be ready to die for Germany if the Russians ever attack. And to it at no cost to Germans.
        Nato was set up to defend Europe from the USSR. If the US were ever attacked and not Europe, the rest of the Nato nations would have certainly looked on with alarm.

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    3. The survey states Europeans have a low opinion of the US response to COVID rating their country’s response higher even when they have a higher fatality rate. They trust Xi more than Trump “to do the right thing regarding world affairs”. It looks more emotional than rational. I get it. Their opinion of the US depends on whether we will follow their politics.

      1. It is totally emotional. And the US’s prestige in the world is generally inverse to it’s position. Europeans hate it that the US is the dominant power in the world and they are not. So, when the US is faltering and it’s influence waning, Europeans suddenly find this new respect for the US. When the US is strong and influential, Europeans just as suddenly no longer respect it.

        1. They no longer respect it right up until there’s some military conflict they’d like our help with, at which point we’ve always been their closest and most respected ally.

          1. Yup. And when we save them, they just resent us more for having done it.

            1. And ignore our resentment for having to waste so many billions of our dollars and troops lives keeping them intact.

              And should we be shocked that a continent that had literally no problem with the Holocaust when it happened seems to have no problems with one now either?

          2. I remember their calls for US involvement in Bosnia. Hey Europe, that is inside Europe. Why can’t you take it?

    4. And it’s not like the international and domestic Left haven’t done their best to mislead opinion about President Trump. This shit doesn’t happen in a vacuum. When the Dems and their media lapdogs (like Reason) are propagandizing their asses off for proggie totalitarians, sure America and DJT would take a hit.

    5. cops are still “far more likely to arrest Blacks than Whites for marijuana-related offenses,

      Maybe because people who smoke weed on a busy street corner in the middle of the day, among other activities, are far more likely to be black. I’m not saying it’s right that they’re arrested. I’m just explaining the disparity.

      1. Quit your white-splaining!

      2. If that were true, it would be a plausible explanation for the arrest differential. Unfortunately, as the article already points out, it is not true. Marijuana use is nearly identical for both blacks and whites.

        1. It’s not about mere use, but about the circumstances. Blacks are likelier to be showy about it.

    6. So the same pollsters that said Hillary in a landslide are now saying that the world (or rather a cherrypicked sampling of the world) hates us. Yeah, I’ll take their word for it.

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  2. With violent crime on the rise in Mpls., City Council asks: Where are the police?
    https://www.mprnews.org/story/2020/09/15/with-violent-crime-on-the-rise-in-mpls-city-council-asks-where-are-the-police

    Just months after leading an effort that would have defunded the police department, City Council members at Tuesday’s work session pushed chief Medaria Arradondo to tell them how the department is responding to the violence.

    The number of reported violent crimes, like assaults, robberies and homicides are up compared to 2019, according to MPD crime data. More people have been killed in the city in the first nine months of 2020 than were slain in all of last year. Property crimes, like burglaries and auto thefts, are also up. Incidents of arson have increased 55 percent over the total at this point in 2019.

    1. Body Cam Video Of Tulsa Officer Shooting Released
      https://www.news9.com/story/5f5f468ca6b57d2d4d62a8b7/body-cam-video-to-be-released-in-case-of-suspect-accused-of-shooting-tulsa-officers

      “The body camera footage from the murder of Sergeant Craig Johnson and the attempted murder of Officer Aurash Zarkeshan is being released this morning. As the CEO of the City government, I felt a responsibility to watch it. I just did, and can’t say this strongly enough: if you do not have to watch this video for your job, don’t watch it.

      1. https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1305943150494724099

        This video is nightmarish

        The scream from the officer…

        Will anyone march for these men?

        1. Won’t even let their names on their helmets.

          The Steelers Villenueva putting fallen soldiers on his helmet is great.

          1. Reason will run an article about a cop in some backwater town addressing a tranny as the “wrong” gender to show real crime

          2. Tyler Eifert of the Jags put David Dorn on his

        2. All this because of an expired tag. It’ll happen!

          1. All that because they violently insisted on searching his car and wouldn’t take a perfectly legal no for an answer.

            1. “…the officers made more than 40 commands for Ware to get out of his vehicle so it could be towed because of having no current tag or insurance.”

              From here: https://tulsaworld.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/video-tulsa-police-release-edited-footage-showing-shooting-of-two-officers/article_21dbeda4-f47b-11ea-86c5-c3764b999f50.html

              Your shit can get towed when that happens. And if it gets towed, it’s going to get searched either at the scene or at the impound yard as an inventory search. All legal.

              And when you’ve got enough enough dope in your possession to catch an intent to distribute charge, plus having a firearm while being a felon, it’s not surprising he didn’t want to get out of the car. Cases like this are why cops frown on people reaching into cars by the way.

              “David Anthony Ware, 33, could face the death penalty on a first-degree murder charge in connection with Johnson’s death. He is also charged with shooting Zarkeshan with intent to kill him, as well as with drug possession with intent to distribute and possession of a firearm after a felony conviction.”

              1. I don’t disagree that Ware should rot in hell for killing another individual (abortions not included) but at some point we need to acknowledge the fact that the majority of law that cops are told to enforce are getting them and citizens killed!

                1. You have no argument from me about getting rid of the Drug War.

                  But even Libertarians were, I thought, in favor of people needing insurance to pay for any potential torts they may cause with a motor vehicle. Ware didn’t have insurance. In that case, are cops not allowed to stop him? And if he’s stopped, from the video I saw, he still likely loses it and fights the cops.

                  Aside, I’m stunned he didn’t also catch a DUI. Guy fought off a Taser that connected and made him do the funky chicken, as well as two blasts of OC or Mace. He looked like he was on something before the festivities started in earnest.

                  1. The only victim of not having insurance is the state, until he hits someone and can’t pay for the damages.

                    Giving this man a ticket for not paying property taxes or having insurance is charging him with crimes against the state, not a person. Therefore, they have no right to order him out of his car unless they have a reason to suspect he has or is about to commit a crime.

                    Give him a ticket. Towing his car is a violation of the 4th and 8th amendments of the constitution. Forcing him out of his car is a violation of the 4th and 14th amendments of the constitution as well as felony assault.

                    These are chargeable felonies under title 18 of the US federal code.

                    We have a duty to shoot cops who commit violent felonies using unlawful force. The courts upheld that in the early days but no longer consider the individual rights protected by the constitution to be greater than the public need. This is sedition and treason by the judge and DAs.

                    Impose the Constitution.

        3. Thank you for publishing that.

          Based on what I just saw, multiple felony constitutional violations, the cops deserved it. Had I been there, I would have shot them well before he did.

          Not guilty if I’m on the jury.

          End the war on drugs or off the progressive pigs. Either way, let the Constitution reign and the government thugs get shot.

          1. Daaaaaamn Gina! I agree!

        4. Here’s another one, one of my favorites.

          Cop starts a fight with a vet over speeding and gets shot. The vet then turns to let the cop live and the little turd shot the vet in the back. Vet came back and ended the little fuck.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Vr56V3YNMw

          Had I been on the jury, not guilty. Screaming at this vet just pisses me off. The cop deserved everything he got.

          RIP Andrew H. Brannan Vietnam veteran and defender of the Constitution.

            1. They’re not called LOLbertarians for nothing, Nardz.

              The best punishment of all would be to give Jed et al, the world that he sounds like he wants.

              1. Impose the Constitution.

                I’m not a lefty. Police are.

                We don’t need new laws. Imposing the Constitution will fix this and will end Progressive socialism.

                Impose the Constitution or we will burn like Venezuela and the USSR. Readers of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn understand where we are right now.

                Impose the Constitution upon this lawless, illegitimate government using the tools our founders fought for. If we have to impose the Constitution over the bodies of 50,000 police officers, that sucks, but so be it.

                The future of our Republic is at stake.

                Impose the Constitution.

    2. With violent crime on the rise in Mpls., City Council asks: Where are the police?

      Fuck ’em. they want Somalia, they can have Somalia. Trump should build a wall around Minneapolis.

      1. And get Canada to pay for it’

      2. Kurt Russell is getting a bit long in the tooth to save the President if he crashes in Minneapolis though.

        1. His rescue days ended when he was raped by Christmas critters

  3. Although marijuana arrests have declined by more than half, African Americans still account for just under 90 percent of those arrested on all pot-related charges…

    As long as LEO can still use it as an excuse to make quotas, the easy targets will continue to be disproportional easy targets.

    1. 84 percent of more than 900 people arrested for public consumption in the nation’s capital were African American

      Someone needs to tell ENB that this is not about race, it is about stupidity. Holy smokes! Toke up in the house!

  4. Biden has a significant lead in the latest polls from some key Midwestern states…

    Hillary is a shoo-in.

    1. 98% chance of winning.

  5. It’s happening? Sounds like Joe Biden just confirmed that Kamala Harris will indeed be the one running the show [video]
    https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/09/15/its-happening-sounds-like-joe-biden-just-confirmed-that-kamala-harris-will-indeed-be-the-one-running-the-show-video/

    Joe Biden just called it “a Harris Biden administration”

    1. Clearly a mistake.
      He will have no role in her administration at all.

      1. You don’t want to tell him that straight up after you got him all excited.

      2. His job won’t be worth a bucket of warm piss.

      3. I don’t think that’s true, his role will be that of the fall guy when their policies fail. Harris’s “ideas” will be ignored and if only they listened to her those pesky problems that popped up would have been solved; at least that is what the record will show after the fact.

    2. There will be no Harris administration, they’re both going to lose in November.

  6. Leaked database indicates Chinese intelligence has probed senior Australian politicians
    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6190389492001

    1. Hope they used some lube.

  7. Thank you, Barak Obama.

    Killing C.I.A. Informants, China Crippled U.S. Spying Operations
    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spies-espionage.html

    WASHINGTON — The Chinese government systematically dismantled C.I.A. spying operations in the country starting in 2010, killing or imprisoning more than a dozen sources over two years and crippling intelligence gathering there for years afterward.

    Current and former American officials described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades. It set off a scramble in Washington’s intelligence and law enforcement agencies to contain the fallout, but investigators were bitterly divided over the cause. Some were convinced that a mole within the C.I.A. had betrayed the United States. Others believed that the Chinese had hacked the covert system the C.I.A. used to communicate with its foreign sources. Years later, that debate remains unresolved.

    But there was no disagreement about the damage. From the final weeks of 2010 through the end of 2012, according to former American officials, the Chinese killed at least a dozen of the C.I.A.’s sources. According to three of the officials, one was shot in front of his colleagues in the courtyard of a government building — a message to others who might have been working for the C.I.A.

    Still others were put in jail. All told, the Chinese killed or imprisoned 18 to 20 of the C.I.A.’s sources in China, according to two former senior American officials, effectively unraveling a network that had taken years to build.

    1. Necrofucking this thread, but do any of your minds change about Snowden if it turns out he helped give the Chicoms some of those sources?

      1. I don’t think it was Snowden, but yes.

        1. I don’t think it was either, but I couldn’t rule it out. In any event, he wasn’t the guy who cleverly gave root access to contractors in mainland China, for the database holding all of the SF-86 questionnaires, as well as other personnel material.

          What might’ve happened is Snowden gave up what he knew to the Russians,not get asylum, and the Chinese stole it then from them. If he was involved at all.

  8. …cease providing intelligence assessments on the threat of Russian interference in the United States, and instead start reporting on interference activities by China and Iran.

    “Stop pouring fuel on this fire that political opponents have lit under my feet and toss some of that under theirs.”

  9. Federal Court Holds “Stay-at-Home” Orders and Mandatory Business Closures Unconstitutional
    https://www.aier.org/article/federal-court-holds-stay-at-home-orders-and-mandatory-business-closures-unconstitutional/

    Today, after six months of this, a Pennsylvania Federal Court in Butler County v. Wolf reviewed the indefinite “emergency” restrictions imposed by the executive branch of Pennsylvania government, declaring limitations on gathering size, “stay-at-home orders,” and mandatory business closures unconstitutional. Refusing to accept the alleged need for a “new normal,” the Court stated that an “independent judiciary [is needed] to serve as a check on the exercise of emergency government power.”

    …We cannot allow our freedom to become “ink on parchment.” Many of our governors seek to do just that — they won’t even designate an endpoint to their “emergency” powers. When does the “emergency” end? This should be easy to say — X number of deaths per million, X number of deaths over X number of weeks — yet they will not say it. They want us to live under the constant threat of house arrest and livelihood deprivation, even though all we ever agreed to was a two-week effort to “flatten the curve.” We never agreed to an indefinite or permanent “new normal,” or to do whatever our wise governor dreams up and declares necessary to “eliminate infections.”

    1. The goal of power is…power.

    1. But not just any old motel, they need to be a nice hotel, like a Sheraton or Hilton at least, with a pool and spa.

      1. Don’t forget the hypoallergenic toiletries and the gluten-free, vegan breakfast option.

      2. Motels for the homeless are the new insane asylums, just without the medical and administrative staff.

        1. Lord of the Flies, but with more schizophrenia and substance abuse.

          1. So Coachella?

            1. Funded like Fyre, though.

  10. A judge in Pennsylvania set bail for people arrested on riot charges at a recent protest at $1 million apiece.

    That’s going to out a dent in the BLM bailout fund.

    1. There are plenty of leftist moguls to fund even that level of bail.

      I am reminded of a time I lived in Savannah, Georgia. A left wing judge ruled that the jails were overcrowded and the sheriff had to release a certain number of criminals. The sheriff wrote a letter to the editor (yes, it was a long time ago) saying he was reviewing the convictions to determine the safest bunch to let out early. The next day there was a letter from a citizen suggesting to the sheriff he release the worst of the worst, then take a 2 hour coffee break. “As long as you tell us where and when the release will be, there won’t be any problems. We still have park squares full of tall oak trees, and Ace Hardware sells rope.”

      1. How many millions can they afford to spend before it starts eating into their lifestyle money? Bleeding them out like this isn’t the worst thing in the world.

      2. Extra judicial hangings of convicts from trees in Georgia? Who are almost certainly overwhelmingly Black People of Color? This just proves how white supremacist racist oppression…y the US has been towards black BIPOC Black People of Colored People… Since 700 BC at least!!!1!

        [POE’S LAW ADVISORY: ABOVE IS SARCASM}

  11. https://twitter.com/Hold2LLC/status/1305941431094214658

    FL vs. NY/NJ Deaths Per Million: 9/15/20

    2 chart versions:

    1) Normal (through 8/31 with 15-day lag)
    2) Florida moved back 70 days to show rate of decline comparison

    1. Temperate vs subtropical climate.

      1. Old people locked up like cattle in a feed lot vs old people wandering around like free range cattle.

  12. https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1306214519216234496

    One of the most prominent activists there was also at the house that was burned down by a mob demanding to know where missing little girls were

    The girls of course were not missing and were not at the house they burned down

    @MrAndyNgo
    · 10h
    BLM protesters in Milwaukee, Wisc. surround a man’s house. He has a Trump & US flag on the outside. He appears to ready a gun from inside the home. He was reportedly arrested for brandishing the weapon.

    1. Same city they murdered the black bookstore owner in front of his store, who just happened to be very pro Trump

      1. So not really “black”.

    2. And we know these are “BLM protestors” how? Black Lives Matter tends to organize rallies, marches during daylight and early evening hours, not middle-of-the-night events.

      1. Did they show their notarized membership cards?

        1. No, they did not. If they had, it would support Andy Ngo’s claim. What does support Andy Ngo’s claim?

            1. Guilt by association with no evidence. A conservative narrative one wants to believe in. Collectivist thinking.

              1. Except all that video.

                1. You mean the video where the person talking isn’t even on screen?

                  1. Your entire point is that you have different standards for accepting evidence, which isn’t a point at all.

                    1. My point is that Ra’s (and others defending his comment) have NO standards for accepting evidence. It fits a narrative they like to believe that the aggressive person(s) in this video are affiliated with Black Lives Matter, so who cares if there is any evidence.

              2. Independent journalists witness this shit daily. They know who the people are.

                But you choose ignorance. Good work buddy.

                1. Sure, right.

                  JesseAz: “The Atlantic witnesses this shit daily. Jeffrey Goldberg knows who the anonymous sources are.”

      2. You’re still doing this schtick?

        1. As long as commenters here keep linking to articles and videos that engage in guilt by association, I will keep pointing it out. That’s not a schtick; it’s a deliberate counter to a narrative that conservative and conservative-leaning commenters here keep trying to push.

          1. How dare truth get in the way of your passive-aggressive totalitarian narrative.

            Eat a dick, then die a painful death soon

            1. Truth? I asked a simple question: where is the evidence that Black Lives Matter has anything to do with the incident in the video?

              1. Their membership cards are showing on their lanyards.

                1. Pretty hard trick when you aren’t even on camera.

          2. guilt by association

            In TWK’s world blaming violence by people at BLM events, who are wearing BLM shirts, and waving signs hailing BLM, on BLM, is guilt by association.

            You’re so breathtakingly dishonest.

            1. How has it been established that these people showing up at this guy’s house is a BLM event?

            2. I’m not the one being breathtakingly dishonest here.

              1. I’m not the one being breathtakingly dishonest here.

                Stop lying.

              2. No you definitely are.

          3. As long as commenters here keep linking to articles and videos that engage in guilt by association, I will keep pointing it out. That’s not a schtick; it’s a deliberate counter to a narrative that conservative and conservative-leaning commenters here keep trying to push.

            No, you’re using hyper-legalistic sophistry to cover for your lefty boos.

            They’re BLM supporters and BLM activists. We know this because they say they are. Sorry that doesn’t fit with your desperate effort to disassociate their violence and terrorism from the central organization itself.

            1. You can’t even answer a simple question: who is the person speaking in the video?

              If you cannot even answer such a simple question, how can you hang all of this inference off of the video?

              1. “who is the person speaking in the video?”

                An antifaBLM activist

              2. Stop lying.

      3. There is some guy, off camera, haranguing the homeowner. Nobody knows who he is.

        Ngo says in his tweet that a prominent activist was there. He may or may not be the person speaking. Ngo links to a Milwaukee Journal that mentions at least two activists, and never mentions Black Lives Matter.

        This is all pretty vague, yet we just know in our hearts that Black Lives Matter is involves, because after all they are bad guy Marxists so they must be behind it, amirite!

        1. Who else would you suggest it might be?

          1. Don’t know. Perhaps some people that are not even affiliated with any formal organization.

            1. This has been happening across the country for months now, and your opinion is that there is no organization involved, it’s more likely that it’s all a bunch of random assholes acting independently?

              1. I don’t know what organizational affiliations there are in this specific incident or with these specific people.

                Neither do you. Neither do any other commenters here.

                Andy Ngo may know more than he said in his tweet, but if you go by only what information is in his tweet it gives no explanation of how he determined that the protestors here are “BLM”.

                1. What level of evidence would you accept?

                  We’ve joked about notaries, is that what it would take? Would they have to shed their masks and identify themselves on television as BLM? Is there some kind of anthem they could sing?

                  I suspect no amount of identification would satisfy you, even if they themselves identified as BLM you’d shrug them off as agitators or phonies.

                  1. First, Ngo could clearly state whether the activist he alludes to is the same as the person speaking in the video.

                    Second, Ngo could give the name of the activist, and perhaps any others he knows that were present.

                    He could link to some evidence those people are affiliated with Black Lives Matter.

                    He could show where Black Live Matter announced this protest on their website, or in a Twitter announcement, or something along those lines.

                    None of this has anything to do with the standard joke here about “asking to see their ID” or not having their ID “poking out of their pocket.”

                    1. None of this has anything to do with the standard joke here about “asking to see their ID” or not having their ID “poking out of their pocket.”

                      So what you’re saying is that this isn’t supported by Black Lives Matter The Organization, and that these are just standard domestic terrorists.

                      Thanks for confirming that these people should be shot on sight because they’re using a legitimate political organization as cover to harm people and property.

                    2. “Thanks for confirming that these people should be shot on sight because they’re using a legitimate political organization as cover to harm people and property.”

                      But, just as there is no evidence anyone in the video is affiliated with any of the Black Lives Matter organizations, there is also nothing in the video where they claim any affiliation.

                    3. Stop lying.

                2. Can you prove to me that the razor was actually Occams?

                  I mean just because you witness it with him daily doesn’t mean it is actually his. You’re assuming guilt by association.

                  1. That was idiotic.

                    1. It’s your argument, so now you know why we mock you.

                    2. The same ineffective mocking as usual, deflecting from having to answer the questions raised.

                    3. Your questions are gaslighting.

      4. Yup. It was probably mother’s against drunk driving or something. Violent bitches.

        1. My point is it could just be some unaffiliated hot heads, representing no organization other than themselves.

          1. It’s hilarious how you can’t understand anything that isn’t spoonfed to you.
            What a little cog

  13. No Trump, doubled. That’s even though I far prefer his economic policies to those of the Democrats.

    “This libertarian wants a president who will play nice with the bureaucrats.”

    1. It’s principals over principles, doubled.

  14. So how, exactly, do we spot a fraudulent ballot?

    Pennsylvania: Mail ballots can’t be discarded over signature
    https://apnews.com/fc464c287c18823ff57fedc13facf7e5

    1. Avalanche of mail ballots — and ballot-watchers — threatens to slow results after polls close
      https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/15/politics/voting-ballots-challenge-election/index.html

      An effort by the Trump and Biden campaigns to deploy challengers to ballot-counting operations in battleground states threatens to slow states’ ability to count votes, raising concerns that the delays will allow President Donald Trump to double down on his claims that any prolonged counting indicates fraud.

      Ballot-counting watchers are a key component of both campaigns’ legal strategies, with preparations underway to contest ballots, review signatures and witness requirements, and push to “cure” invalid ballots in states where that’s allowed. If a battleground state becomes a razor-thin contest, the fight could end up in the courts.
      The role of ballot watchers, who include trained volunteers and lawyers, is to document every detail and dispute a ballot if there’s a potential issue. While their presence isn’t new, election experts fear that the added oversight — combined with an influx of mail-in ballots — could lead to unnecessary delays that fuel doubt and chaos if it’s a close election that hinges on the mail-in vote to determine the outcome.

      1. It will be okay no how much Lefties try to cheat with Election 2020. The in person voting will be so high for Trump that there literally wont be enough mailed out ballots to make the difference.

        1. You’re whistling past the graveyard.

          This has the potential of being a gigantic problem.

          1. The left has already said they are committed to violence no matter what.
            They’ve already started committing violence.
            The only question is if we’ll defend ourselves

    2. “So how, exactly, do we spot a fraudulent ballot?”

      The ones marked for Trump, that’s how.

    3. “One way of fixing it is to contact voters to come in to verify their signature, he said.”

      They aren’t saying that they will simply say ballots with questionable signatures are A-OK. They are saying they will give the voter a chance to fix the signature.

      1. It’s unsafe to vote in person, but it’s safe to validate your signature in person. Legit.

        1. Just like it is safe to babysit kids in a school but not teach them in a school.

        2. That’s a separate argument, and one I don’t defend. I think it’s not particularly unsafe to vote in person. I plan on doing so.

          Having said that, there is nothing inherently wrong with voting by mail. There is a real potential problem with a sudden increase in the scale of mail voting in some states.

          1. So there was no problems with the NYP article with an actual person stating how he abused mail voting in elections for decades? No problem with the 1k people in Georgia that voted mail and in person? The 20% rejection rate in NY? The ballot fraud in Jersey? The people in Connecticut who showed up as having voted by mail but never got a ballot?

            No problems huh.

            1. “No problem with the 1k people in Georgia that voted mail and in person?”

              As Trump has told people to do on Twitter, a couple of times now?

              “No problems huh.”

              Trump and his family all had no problem with voting by mail.

              1. Your unwillingness to answer and your decision to deflect speak volumes.

                1. The big problem with the Right’s crusade against mail-in voting isn’t that they don’t have some facts on their sides. Both sides of the debate can marshal factual data and examples. The big problem is that the Right’s crusade is that they are identifying a problem, but not trying to fix it. They want mail-in voting to be a big failure they can blame on the Left or use to contest the results of the Presidential election.

                  The second biggest problem is that the main spokesman for the crusade, Trump, has undermined the cause by voting by mail himself, and not staying on message about the heart of the issue: that rapid scaling up on mail-in voting in certain states will lead to prolonged and messy vote tallying. Of course, if he stuck to talking about the heart of the problem, people could legitimately ask, “As President, what are you doing to help the situation?”

                  1. First they have offered a solution, in person voting, some have even suggested expanding voting to more than one day. Second the opposition to mail in voting (not absentee voting) among conservatives predates Trump. Conservatives opposed it when Oregon and Washington implemented it, for the same reasons the oppose it now.

                    1. Is that a practical suggestion? Some states have been using mail-in voting exclusively for years. Some states have allowed mail-in voting to any voter who applies, for years, and simply have had more people applying. Are we saying that they should change their voting options now?

                    2. About as practical as states that have never done full mail in voting and are suddenly trying to implement it 3 months before the election. And you just stated they had no solution.
                      And just FYI the conservatives in those states with full mail in ballots have been trying to end the process for years, because they believe (often with at least some evidence) that this process is ripe for fraud.

                    3. It seems you are criticising the Republicans while not criticizing the Democrats who want to change to all mail in voting, for everyone, at the drop of a hat. That is just as impractical.

                    4. There are definitely practical problems that should have been considered.

                      But the bigger point is that this is not how mature, competent leadership works. The Democrats should have considered the practicality of scaling up. But also when a problem isn’t politicized by Red vs. Blue wars what people normally do is work together to solve it. The partisan wars make us collectively stupid and dysfunctional.

                    5. “this is not how mature, competent leadership works.”

                      There is 0 evidence in your history of posting here that your opinion of such things is worth anything more than nothing

      2. No way they find time for that if there are a significant number of ballots with this issue, and if they’re aren’t, they why bother with this rule?

      3. “They aren’t saying that they will simply say ballots with questionable signatures are A-OK. They are saying they will give the voter a chance to fix the signature.”

        Well, gee, that sounds totes legit.

        1. It is a legit process.

          It may be impractical in states where they have dramatically scaled up the amount of mail-in voting, but it’s not a problem of legitimacy.

          1. “Your signature doesn’t remotely match. Can you, uh, ‘fix’ the signature for us” sounds as legit as anything I can possibly imagine.

            1. How is it that different from when you show up at the polling place in person and sign their little book?

  15. U.S. commander: Intel still hasn’t established Russia paid Taliban ‘bounties’ to kill U.S. troops
    “It just has not been proved to a level of certainty that satisfies me,” Gen. Frank McKenzie told NBC News. McKenzie oversees U.S. troops in Afghanistan.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/u-s-commander-intel-still-hasn-t-established-russia-paid-n1240020?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

    1. I don’t know how anyone is wanting to go to war over these bounties despite no evidence whatsoever.

      Does no one remember the Iraqi WMDs? The evidence there was shaky, but it was leaps and bounds more than this, and it turns out that it was all bluster and bluff by Hussein and he had essentially nothing.

  16. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8735775/Woman-holds-suspected-arsonist-gunpoint-cops-arrived.html
    Moment woman forces suspected arsonist to the ground and holds him at gunpoint outside her Oregon property after she spots box of matches in his hand

    Kat Cast held an alleged arsonist at gunpoint on her property until police arrived
    She claimed the had man told her that he was going to start a fire on her property
    That’s when she grabbed her handgun, held him at gunpoint and questioned him about whether he started fires on her property
    The man claimed that he was just ‘passing through’ and didn’t start any fires
    Police arrived a short time later and was seen arresting the unidentified man

    1. Wasn’t she arrested too?

      1. I haven’t seen anything mentioning that–the guy was on her property, so putting her under arrest for that would be a real good way to incentivize rural Oregonians to just shoot these people and bury them in the woods.

    2. Careful with that misinformation you’ve got there.

  17. Considering that close to 1% of the population in the U.S. is on the autistic spectrum, perhaps it’s time for police in the United States and elsewhere in the world to start having better procedures in order to deal with crises that do not require using potentially lethal force.

    Correct response to the normal social cues that are the conflicting orders being screamed from every direction is the only way a policeman can go safely home to his family every night.

    1. Or perhaps its time to ignore most of the Karen complaints about inconsequential behavior.

  18. America’s global prestige continues to drop. “Since Donald Trump took office as president, the image of the United States has suffered across many regions of the globe,”

    But North Korea and Putin love the US! LEFTY COMMIE BIAS!

    1. “MUH GLOBUL WURLD ORDAH!”

    2. Yes, our prestige continues to drop as our influence increases.

    3. Since when has “global prestige” been anything better than lip service?

  19. Nearly 20 percent of millennials, Gen Z in NY believe Jews caused the Holocaust: survey
    https://nypost.com/2020/09/16/survey-shows-young-new-yorkers-lack-of-holocaust-knowledge/

    For instance, although there were more than 40,000 camps and ghettos during World War II, 58 percent of respondents in New York cannot name a single one.

    Additionally, 60 percent of respondents in New York do not know that 6 million Jews were killed during the Holocaust.

    “The results are both shocking and saddening and they underscore why we must act now while Holocaust survivors are still with us to voice their stories,” said Gideon Taylor, president of the Conference on Jewish Material Claims Against Germany.

    A total of 34 percent of respondents in New York believe the Holocaust happened but the number of Jews who died has been greatly exaggerated or believe the Holocaust is a myth and did not happen or are unsure.

      1. According to meisk, the jews can’t be responsible for something that never happened

    1. Last year, I spoke with a 40-something woman who was convinced the US dropped the nukes on Berlin…
      Not sure what’s being taught in the government schools over the last couple of decades, but I can point to some things which aren’t.

      1. Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

      2. We really, really, really need some kind of civics IQ test before people are allowed to vote.

    2. Well, it is true that if there had been no Jews in Germany at the time, there would not have been a holocaust. The other six million in the camps would just have been ordinary criminals; you know, communists, homosexuals, mental defectives, and the like.

      1. So, deplorables?

  20. Hero

    https://twitter.com/TimOBrien/status/1305891808837337088
    Stay classy, Jim Cramer.

    He just called Nancy Pelosi, “Crazy Nancy” – to her face, during an interview.

    1. He’s spends the rest of the day backtracking also stating that Crazy Nancy spent her life in public service. Spent! Yeah, that’s the ticket. It was well spent to the tune of $120 million in returns.

    2. I’m surprised homeboy is still on the air. His credibility has been utter shit for years.

      1. You just answered your own query as to why he is still on the air.

  21. So 99% of the evil retarded scumbags in media trash talking the country for 4 years straight and making up garbage makes the US look bad. Seller analysis I would not have guessed that

    1. And it’s not even an important thing.

    2. It’ll be fun when some of these media bitches start getting popped like cops are

    3. Sure, that’s what it is. Nothing to do with our president being a moron.

      1. Which one isn’t?

      2. Don’t let your neutrality slip. No teams remember buddy.

        1. I am an equal opportunity critic of both major parties.

          1. any accounting at all shows that to be a lie

            1. I’d like to see the accounting.

              1. It’s sad that you insist on this charade.
                You are not a healthy cog

          2. Haha. The thoughtful contrarian strikes again.

      3. The cruelest joke ever played on you was whoever gave you the mistaken impression that you’re intelligent enough to disparage others

      4. Haha. You need to be lead so badly.

  22. Turns out that censorship is a bipartisan objective.

    The First Amendment ain’t there to protect my speech from my neighbor’s incursion.

    1. What about the Second?

      1. Well, the 3rd Amendment protects against government incursions into your home.

        1. So does the 2nd.

        2. So does the 4th. Oh, wait…

  23. “A judge in Pennsylvania set bail for people arrested on riot charges at a recent protest at $1 million apiece.”

    Still not enough.

    1. Did he raise his pinky to the corner of his mouth while cackling?

  24. President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden—want to repeal Section 230 of federal communications law, it’s perhaps the best indicator that doing so is a bad idea. As First Amendment lawyer and law professor Eric Goldman put it earlier this summer: “Turns out that censorship is a bipartisan objective.”

    So how is trying to stop censorship censorship.
    I have an acquaintance on Blogger (Google) he keeps getting notices of unapproved posts or comments without specifying which ones. He’s afraid he’s going to be disappeared. I guess when the secret police are private it’s A-OK.

    1. Yes, it’s private property. Don’t like it? Find another platform or create your own.

      1. To be fair, FB and the big social media corporations are (1) Public Corporations and (2) Take federal contract money.

        Why this is relevant is because most public corporations are founded on a “public interest”. These corporations get special privileges and in return they have a legal obligation to act in the “public interest”. What public interest is is up to the legislative body that creates them.

        FB and Google can end their charter as a public corporation, buy back all stock, and become a partnership/sole proprietorship.

        Not saying that government should do anything more than barely regulate companies but companies thinking there is nothing the Public can do is stupid.

        1. Forgot to add that taking federal contract money usually comes with stipulations like enacting accommodation laws, equal opportunity, etc.

          1. And drug testing.

        2. “To be fair, FB and the big social media corporations are (1) Public Corporations and (2) Take federal contract money.”

          (1) They are publicly traded corporations. They are not owned by the public. Are you delibertately trying to conflate, or are you just igorant of the difference?

          (2) So what? They are still private entities.

    2. There are about 65,000 alternative blogging platforms out there. This isn’t even about social media where there is a big network affect.

      If Blogger is looking to ban hammer him, he should just GTFO to somewhere else.

      1. You going to defend twitter censoring the Chinese dissident next?

        1. Ethically, no. Legally, yes.

          1. So youre fine with a corporation arbitrarily changing terms of their contract. Good to know.

            1. Oh, this again. Link to the contract that they violated.

        2. Did I mention twitter? Did the OP I was responding to?

          FWIW: Fuck twitter. Twitter has like 150 million monthly users. That is nothing. If you guys would just go over to one of the many competitors instead of endlessly bitching about them, they’d be out of business in a couple weeks. And yet, there is Ra’s every morning happily posting links to Twitter. 5, 6, 10 of them. Or posting articles that are nothing more than rehashes of some twitter fight.

          1. This seems to be more a statement of faith than practicality

    3. There is an awful lot of trust being placed in the government’s stepping in and solving the problem of rejected posts without causing a much bigger problem. I thought we were libertarians here and we all understand the problem with “I’m from the government and I’m here to help.”

  25. Facebook Flags Anti-Biden Ad as ‘Misleading’ Because It Doesn’t Support His Trans Agenda
    https://pjmedia.com/election/tyler-o-neil/2020/09/15/facebook-flags-anti-biden-ad-as-misleading-because-it-doesnt-support-his-trans-agenda-n933614

    “Our ad campaign makes a very simple claim: policies supported by Joe Biden, Sen. Gary Peters and other Democrats would destroy girls’ sports. There is ample evidence for this claim and more coming in every day. Nothing in the PolitiFact review shows this claim to be false,” Schilling explained. “Yet Facebook has nevertheless decided to declare that our ad might ‘mislead people’ because it is ‘missing context.’ Apparently, they believe the ad will only be fair if we also include the leftist ‘arguments’ against us.”

    “Do we now need pre-approval from Democrats before we run ads critical of their policies? This is an absurd standard — one which Facebook obviously doesn’t hold the other side to,” the APP director concluded.

    1. No surprise. FB flags op-eds by Ron Paul. Delete your FB account and use a browser that blocks FB’s cross-site trackers.

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  27. Reason quote mining and cherry picking:

    “D.C. Superior Court does not maintain statistics for the dispositions of marijuana-related arrests. A Post review of more than 100 such cases shows that charges are often dropped or prosecutors negotiate plea bargains with probationary sentences. When defendants refuse a plea, prosecutors in some instances have abandoned cases, especially when relatively small amounts of marijuana are involved.”

  28. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/09/startling_anonymous_post_from_a_claimed_biden_exstaffer_lays_out_the_alleged_depths_of_his_dementia.html

    The dementia medication has had, um… unfortunate side effects.

    There’s no dancing around this… the medication has made Joe incontinent. Though his “good days” have increased dramatically, he can barely get through a press event without running to the bathroom. That’s why he didn’t take questions after announcing Harris as his running mate. They weren’t afraid of the questions, the press loves him… they were afraid he was going to piss his pants on-camera. Lately, Jen’s been having closed-door meetings to discuss which brand of incontinence pads would be best to purchase. Seriously, a group of paid staffers sat around and discussed which brands were the least visible, the least likely to leak, and wouldn’t audibly “crinkle.”

    1. https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/09/theres_a_reason_why_rush_is_wondering_if_biden_is_ever_seen_at_night.html

      This is the fact that, other than the long-ago Democrat debates and his acceptance speech (which may have been live, rather than prerecorded), Biden is never seen at night. In that regard, he is the “un-vampire.”

      Indeed, most of Biden’s appearances are early in the day. He may do this because he tires easily and, by afternoon, is running on empty. Rush, though, posits that Biden may be suffering from sundowning, something strongly associated with dementia in the elderly, especially with Alzheimer’s. Sundowning is so named because it consistently appears as the sun is setting.

      I’ve seen this first-hand with both my parents, neither of whom had Alzheimer’s, but both of whom sundowned badly as they developed age-related dementia. What I learned was that, for the people sundowning, the illusions are real. These are not nightmares from which they can awaken. You cannot “snap” them out of it. They cannot be perked up and trotted out with a little medicine. While sufferers are sundowning, they’re gone.

    2. I’m confused. Are we now taking anonymous sources at their word or are we not?

      1. I’m confused.

        You should have stopped there.

        1. So, what is our rule here. Do we believe stories backed by anonymous sources or not?

          1. It’s okay when we do it.

            1. That was honest.

              1. Can’t beat the enemy with one hand tied behind your back.

      2. do you have 21 public sources to counter it? Because you still didn’t care about the atlantic using them.

        This like that is just speculative. Here we at least have actual videos and timelines supporting the anonymous person. Atlantic didnt.

        Yet you pushed back harder here. Weird.

        1. Is that how truth works? Do we tally up the number of people saying one thing vs. the ones saying another?

          1. It’s called weight if evidence. If 21 people go on record and deny it, compared to 4 anonymous sources, some of whom weren’t even there, the logical conclusion is the anonymous sources claims are dubious at best.

            1. Is that how we also determine the truth about, say, global warming?

              If there was even one anonymous source that was there, and did hear what he or she claimed to hear then the story is true, isn’t it? It just means the other persons weren’t there at the time Trump made the remarks. Or they are lying because they are on the White House staff or otherwise allies of Trump.

              1. “Is that how we also determine the truth about, say, global warming?”

                No you fucking nitwit, we have no aliens coming from off planet.

                God damn how are you this dumb.

              2. Since I accept the scientific evidence behind global warming, I’m not sure what point you thought you were making.

                1. And I challenge you to find any statement from the last decade of mine that denies AGW is happening. I don’t think it is as big a crisis as the watermelons and believe nuclear power is the best answer to it but I don’t deny the scientific evidence supports the theory of AGW (and a theory is not just a guess but has been tested).

                2. But do you accept the evidence based on evidence like documents averring global warming is true, signed by a bunch of scientists?

                  1. Depends on their credentials. If they are biologist, probably not so much. If they are climatologist, then more so. And I quibble with you using the word truth or believe, because those aren’t scientific terms.

              3. All the sources that came out where there, including confirmed enemies of Trump (e.g. Bolton).

                1. And he is not in a position to prove a negative. He cannot know that someone else didn’t hear something while he wasn’t present.

                  1. That is just sophistry. Sorry. But it is dangerously close to the argument that Flat Earthers and Moon Landing Hoaxers use.

                    1. It would be if I were arguing that The Atlantic’s story is true. I’m not. I’m saying it’s questionable, because of the unknown sources, but cannot be disproven, either.

                    2. No, under that logic nothing can be disproven, really. This is an argument of what is truth and does it really exist. It is a metaphysical argument. But most people judge based upon the weight of evidence because it is more practical. Not only on the number but credentials and verifiable proximity to a reported incident.

                  2. And some of the witnesses did confirm that at least part of the statements, the ones he made at Arlington, were true but taken out of context and not meant to be derision. He was supposedly stating in wonder about the sacrifices servicemembers make despite bad pay and poor treatment by the public and Government, or at least what he considers poor treatment. So, given someone who dislikes him states it isn’t true and the fact that others state that at least some of the statements (from a different event) were made but the inference was far different than what the article implied, I would say on balance the evidence supports Trump rather than the story.
                    Maybe these 4 anonymous sources were present when no one else were and Trump just blurted this out where no one else could hear it. But that seems extremely unlikely. To make the argument supporting the anonymous sources validity would require a far more complex set of events than to believe the 21 named witnesses who denied it. Also, the witnesses claimed they were with Trump the entire afternoon of the supposed event in France and White House records support this. So the timelines also doesn’t support your rather far fetched hypothesis.

    3. If if this rumor isn’t true, it’s utterly criminal that they’re putting Biden through this when he clearly is not all there mentally. The guy can’t even read a teleprompter anymore without fucking it up.

      The campaign has had several Freudian slips lately promoting the “Harris administration,” and that’s a dead give-away that Biden’s going to get the 25th Amendment pulled on him about 3-4 months after the inauguration if he wins.

      1. *Even if this rumor isn’t true*

      2. Yep. It’s clear that Joe no longer understands the words he’s supposed to be reading.

  29. For instance, just 41% in the United Kingdom express a favorable opinion of the U.S., the lowest percentage registered in any Pew Research Center survey there. In France, only 31% see the U.S. positively, matching the grim ratings from March 2003, at the height of U.S.-France tensions over the Iraq War. Germans give the U.S. particularly low marks on the survey: 26% rate the U.S. favorably, similar to the 25% in the same March 2003 poll.

    How’s come no one does a poll of what American’s think of the UK, France or Germany or anyone else for that matter? We could move our troops either to a friendlier nation or bring them home. Last time it was brought up the Eurotrash and the NeoCons squealed like hogs to the slaughter.

    1. Waaaa!!!! They aren’t giving us money!!

    2. Maybe because most Americans can’t find France on a map?

      1. When I lived in Europe, that is what I could never get my European friends to understand. They think the US is as interested in them and the rest of the world as they are in the US. They really think the average American wakes up every day dreaming of how America can dominate the world.

        I would always tell them that nothing could be further from the truth. America is the most self absorbed and inward looking great power since the Middle Kingdom of China. Most Americans couldn’t find France on a map and sees no reason to learn how. America couldn’t care less about the rest of the world. The American public is constantly made to care about the rest of the world by American internationalist elites who think it is the US’s job to ensure peace and prosperity for the world and other nations who forever underestimate how violent and dangerous this country can be when provoked.

        My message to Europeans was always that America will never invade and subjugate the world like Europeans once did. As much as I love it, it is kind of a crazy, violent place in many ways. Just leave it the fuck alone.

        1. Sounds like my experience living in Europe as well. Not only are Americans focused on America, many of them are really focused on their own region, state, county, or city. I remember on Long Island someone asking me where Oregon is and asking if it was near Tennessee.

          1. That’s hilarious.

            My son is working on a history assignment. He has to discuss why France and Britain both coveted the Ohio River Valley for different reasons, and how that lead to war.

            In order to understand that, you had to know where “New France” was (Canada), where the Mississippi river is (and the settlements around New Orleans), how the Ohio connects to the Mississippi, where the British colonies were, and why the people living there might want to expand their settlements to the west.

            It seemed pretty obvious to me, but if you are a kid who lives 2,000 miles away from Canada and 1,500 miles away from New Orleans, figuring out how the Ohio River (also 1,500 miles away) connects those two colonies and how Pennsylvania (also 1,500 miles away) spreading west would cut that route off is not just “not obvious”, it was almost impossible to grasp.

            For our friends in Paris, that is as far removed as Chisinau in Moldova is from you. Think your kids know all about the local culture in Moldova? Voronezh in Russia is closer to you than Canada is to my kids. Any clue about what Voronezh is like? My kids drive further than that to see their grandparents in Wisconsin.

            1. That is kind of like the bitching people do about how Americans don’t learn foreign languages and Europeans do. If I live in Europe, I am likely within a couple of hundred miles or less of people who speak another native language. In the US, not so much.

              1. Bill Cosby did it better 50 years ago.

                “Don’t feel bad if you can’t speak 11 different languages. In Europe it is only a half hour drive, or a two hour drive to go from one language to another. In the United States, you can drive for 8 days and not run in to another language.

                But I can speak Alabama.

                ‘How ya’ll doin? No, all ya’ll. Yeah, all y’all over there…’

                And I can speak Boston. I bet your friend from Europe can’t speak Boston. I was talking with a man from Boston and he told me that his friend had a hat attack.
                ‘What? A hat jumped up and attacked him??’
                ‘No… his hat. His hat in his chest… he had a hat attack!'”

                1. But can you speak Jive?

            2. Don’t worry about what other people think of you, you might be disappointed to learn they don’t.

            3. I don’t know how many times people asked me where I was from when I was stationed in Virginia and I’d answer Idaho and they’re response was “isn’t it pretty flat there?”. Uhm no, we’re a Rocky Mountain State. Really I thought that was just Colorado (or Montana). Now a days, I get the response, “oh you’re from Montana, you’re so lucky, I love the mountains”. Uhm I live on the prairie.

              1. Reminds me of a decent article from Weekly Standard (I know, shocking but it was a long time ago). A Canadian asked the writer what Americans think of Canada and he replied, “Well, as an American, we never think of Canada. Not one single time”

            4. On a related note… slave descendant Americans ancestors live closer to the uk than to Barack Obama sr’s homeland.
              It’s pretty racist to consider him one of us.

          2. Decades ago when I started grad school I was a TA for intro geology. Traditionally, during the first lab session we gave students a map of the US with state outlines and asked them to label as many as possible. Not sure what the learning value was, but the results were depressing and hilarious. Most students could get their home state and at best a few others. The wild guesses were literally all over the place.

            1. If you don’t live in the northeast… all those tiny irregular rectangles are tough.

              Texas, Florida, California, Main… all easy.

              Michigan looks like a mitten. Easy.

              Oklahoma looks like a cooking pot. Easy.

              Tennessee is the skinny sideways one. Easy.

              Everything else gets a lot tougher. The midwest and west are filled with nondescript squares. The south and rust belt are filled with irregular vertical rectangles.

              Nevada has that unusual triangle bottom, so if you are above the baseline you can get that one easy.

              The rest? If you don’t live there, and it isn’t “your thing”, getting those might be pretty tough.

              1. Vermont and New Hampshire are the only ones I’d be unsure of

                1. New Hampshire is the one that has Bob Newhart, and Vermont is the one with a useless scumbag socialist senetor

              2. Yeah the New England states confuse me a bit. Used to get Georgia and Alabama switched too, until I realized Georgia is on the Atlantic. It is also sad how many people think Texas is bigger than Alaska (because it looks like it on most flat maps).

                1. Mississippi and Alabama for me. I’ve read enough hurricane reports, you’d think I’d have them down by now.

          3. “Not only are Americans focused on America, many of them are really focused on their own region, state, county, or city. I remember on Long Island someone asking me where Oregon is and asking if it was near Tennessee.”

            Are you sure that isn’t a NY thing?Most people in the midwest know, at least, what states go with which regions.

            1. I have only ever visited one foreign country, Canada (and that doesn’t really count). But I have visited 35 states and lived in nine. I’ve met a number of people from the east coast who haven’t done this but have visited more foreign countries.

        2. A big problem with America’s overseas adventures through its history is that the Manifest Destiny philosophy got tacked on to the global imperialist rush taking place at the turn of the century. There’s never been any reason for the US to get itself involved in foreign conflicts or colonialism after the Indians were subjugated. We had one of the largest export economies in the world between the Wounded Knee massacre and the Spanish-American war, and certainly didn’t need to secure additional territories to maintain that.

          1. And the US also had one of the world’s largest domestic markets. We didn’t necessarily need foreign markets. And certainly didn’t need any particular foreign market enough to justify going to war over it. But, the late 19th and early 20th Century international relations are a history of armies crossing borders so goods will.

          2. Coaling stations to support the navy that protected those routes, but yeah. The US was always kinda half-hearted as an imperialist, though the Phillipine Emergency was a profoundly ugly period.

        3. Similarly, when I lived in Europe, I found that my European friends had almost no concept of how large the USA is. They had no experience in their lives to compare it to.

          You can drive from London to Milan in a single day. Explaining to them that driving from Chicago to LA was 3 long days of driving was mind-blowing to them. New York to LA is 4, minimum. Now imagine doing that without crossing any international borders or seeing road signs in different languages.

          1. To be fair most easterners I’ve met don’t realize how big the US is either. While I was deployed my wife lived with her sister in Post Falls. Tricare wanted her to get a special ultrasound because of her medical history. They called her Thursday afternoon at 4 and said “we got you an appointment for 8 am tomorrow”. My wife “great, where?” “Boise”. Two things wrong with this, Boise is over 6 hours from Post Falls and is on MDT, whereas Post Falls is on PST (i.e. the appointment was actually for 7 am. She asked “can you get one closer?” “There isn’t another one in Idaho”. “What about in Spokane?” “Oh, that is Washington we wouldn’t want to have to make you travel that far.”

      2. My experience when I’ve met Europeans involved ‘oh you’re an American, don’t you just love Los Angeles (or New York)?’ never been to either city. When I try and explain where Idaho or Montana is, I just get blank stares.

        1. I take part of this back. I have been to LA but I was 18 months old.

    3. Everyone knows everyone in the US is racist and hates everyone else.

      1. That is not true at all. We don’t hate EVERY one else.
        I love my wife.

        1. So do 6 other guys.

          1. At least she gets Sundays off.

            1. Who does she think she is – god?

        2. Or I tell them I’m a rancher and they ask if I’m from Texas. And blank stares when I say no. ‘I thought that was were the cowboys are all at?’

          1. It’s also been my experience that I have better knowledge of European geography and history than most Europeans I’ve met have knowledge about US history and geography. Most simply can’t grasp the size of our country except like Russians and Ukrainians and Poles.
            Also, I love when I tell them I grew up on a reservation and their response is “I thought all the Indians were dead, do they still live in tepees?’ (I’ve gotten similar responses from people I met on the east coast).

            1. Or another response (besides my favorite of but you don’t look native or some variant of that, they don’t understand that most reservations are open) is “do you speak their language then”? “No”. “Then how do you communicate?” Hell most can’t speak their native language either.

              1. And I don’t speak Norwegian, Danish and can only just about order a beer and ask where the bathroom is in German, despite being Norwegian Danish and German ancestry. Why do they assume American Indians speak their tribal languages?

    4. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do those polls in their own countries, ie. British media polling on what the world thinks of the UK, German media on what the world thinks of Germany, etc.

  30. “Surrounded by a charred landscape with a smell of smoke in the air, Harris said “ideology should not kick in” when responding to wildfires and the climate crisis, a veiled criticism of President Donald Trump, though she did not say his name.
    […]
    “The people who are victimized by these, they could care less and their children could care less who they voted for in the last election. This is not a partisan issue,” Harris told reporters of the fires.
    […]
    Harris said the climate crisis can’t be detached from the other crises of public health, the economy and systemic racism.”
    https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/slideshow/Photos-Kamala-Harris-visits-Calif-wildfire-208951.php

    Nope, not ideological in the least, so long as you agree with her proggy bullshit.

    1. The climate crisis cannot be detached from systemic racism?

      What in the ever-loving hell? How powerful is the echo of Jim Crow? I mean, it was the law in almost a quarter of the USA for a few decades…. surely it dominates institutions in India, China, Malaysia, Australia, Russia, France, Brazil….

      1. So we can include you in the “Harris peddles bullshit” column?

        1. No.

          That would have been before she filed the second set of charges against the owners of Backpage.com

          Since then, she’s in her own special column reserved for particularly evil statists who will do anything at all to increase their personal power.

      2. The funny thing is most historians believe that slavery on the south and Jim Crow laws actually slowed the industrialization of the south.

        1. A number of slave owning founding fathers predicted slavery would hamper innovation and felt that this would lead to it’s death naturally. It would have to if not for Whitney.

    1. Vindman comes out of hiding and sees his shadow, six more weeks of “Russia,Russia,Russia”

  31. The left: Bezos has too much money.
    Also the left: keep the small business killing shutdown going forever, for climate change if not for ChiCom Lung Aids.

    https://twitter.com/CNBC/status/1306209865187065856
    Yelp data shows 60% of business closures due to the coronavirus pandemic are now permanent

    1. I think it is almost always better to attribute events to a combination of random fortune and various motivations and actions by people and not some grand conspiracy. If, however, the entire COVID pandemic were an international plot among multi national corporations to destroy American small business and make Americans dependent on Amazon and a few other large corporations, reality would look no different than it does. So, it really doesn’t matter if it was some kind of plot. The result is the same.

      1. Fascism is a form of socialism where you keep the appearance of private property but the revenue and real control goes to the State (taxes, regulations, etc). Large corporations have woke HR departments, and a handful of large corporations is easier for the state to handle than millions of small businesses. CEOs like regulation; they keep their jobs because they really aren’t responsible for the results.

        This is the “third way” Clinton, Blair, and Mussolini talked about, and all three used that phrase. This is why every major corporation is using its ad budget for BLM.

        This isn’t a conspiracy; this is a self-aware social class that simply recognizes its own class interests and wants fascism, which they will call by its generic name – socialism.

        1. Bezos is filthy rich. Bezos owns the WaPo. Is that paper reliably left wing or capitalist?

        2. Governments like this form of socialism because, with private citizens pretending to be owners, the government has a fall guy to blame failure on.

      2. Some of these things are going to “come back” in the sense that nature abhors a vacuum, and people will figure out niches to meet. But on the whole, yes, this pandemic has been a boon for global megacorps in enabling them to increase their market share, and it’s also why California is so hot to put in an “exit tax”–because if someone like Amazon can just fuck off to a still-low-tax haven when these commies try to implement targeted tax hikes, like Kshitma finally got passed, those areas won’t be able to get their ton of flesh out of the corporations they just worked with to destroy small businesses.

        It’s also why this idea that the destruction of small businesses and the middle class is so insidious–the people pimping it honestly think they’re going to be in the Brahamin class rather than the untouchables when the dust finally settles. Ultimately, those types always, ALWAYS end up with a bullet in their heads from the people who used them.

        1. Which is why it’s better to put a bullet in both their heads first

    2. this is the most cataclysmic economic event/shift of our lifetime and it’s getting almost no coverage.

    3. Granville Moore’s in DC is closing permanently. It was one of the very few places you could get a variety of fancy Belgian beers on tap. Goddamn shame.

  32. The ‘experts’, everybody:

    Kerry: Trump Moving U.S. Embassy to Jerusalem Would Lead to a Mideast Explosion
    https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-kerry-moving-embassy-to-j-lem-would-lead-to-explosion-1.5482791

    “You’d have an explosion,” he said in an interview with CBS. “You’d have an explosion – an absolute explosion in the region, not just in the West Bank and perhaps even in Israel itself, but throughout the region. The Arab world has enormous interest in the Haram al-Sharif, as it is called, the Temple Mount, the Dome [of the Rock], and it is a holy site for the Arab world.”

    “And if all of a sudden Jerusalem is declared to be the location of our embassy, that has issues of sovereignty, issues of law that it would deem to be affected by that move and by the United States acquiescing in that move, and that would have profound impact on the readiness of Jordan and Egypt to be able to be as supportive and engaged with Israel as they are today,” he said.

    1. Fact check: true enough.
      There has been an explosion of peace treaties.

    2. What are you talking about? We’ve been in WWIII since January, and Trump’s recent comments about retaliating against an Iranian assassination attempt just plunged us into WWIV, before WWIII has even ended!

    3. It’s like the Arab League and the GCC might actually consider Iran to be a greater concern at the moment than the plight of the Palestinians or whether the US has their embassy in Jerusalem.

      Fun fact–Iran and Syria have had friendly relations going back to the Iran-Iraq war. Combine that with Turkey increasingly coming in on Iran’s side in disputes, and we could be setting the stage for a spicy conflict in the next 5-10 years. Don’t be surprised if Iran tells Hezbollah to start making inroads to Syria to work with Assad, Turkey ends up taking real, actual steps towards leaving NATO in that time frame, and a possible insurrection in Jordan pops up due to the large Palestinian population that lives there.

    4. That building in libia did blow up

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  34. “”Four years ago I was a ‘Never Trump’ voter,” writes longtime libertarian Walter Olson, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, in the Wall Street Journal. “Now, I’m more set than ever in that view: No Trump, doubled. That’s even though I far prefer his economic policies to those of the Democrats.””

    This perfectly sums up the writing at Reason as well.

    And that’s how the human mind works. Initial impressions are the strongest because we are wired for confirmation bias. Most initial impressions are extremely resistant to contrary information. That’s part of how tribalism works. We are built that way.

    His thesis: “Mr. Trump erodes public trust and embarrasses his office. ”

    Unfortunately, it is not anything Trump has done which has done that. I mean, sure he’s said plenty of provocative things. And he has even taken a couple of actions that are beyond his authority and gotten pulled back.

    But nothing anywhere close to what Obama did on that front. He has faced a judiciary that was appointed to enforce the belief that the courts are there to enforce their political ideology. So a (D) court issues an injunction stopping Trump from cancelling the entirely unlawful DACA proclamation from Obama.

    And that counts as Trump eroding the office.

    I reject the entire thesis out of hand.

    It is nothing more than confirmation bias written out and detailed for your consumption.

    Taken “scientifically”, Trump has done the opposite of what his critics claim. The DNC and the press have debased the nation. It is the press that invented fake story after fake story, and asks questions of Biden like “What does this say about Trump’s soul” while asking Trump “Aren’t you ashamed of murdering hundreds of thousands of Americans?”

    That ain’t Trump. And all of that started at least 12 years before Trump.

    So you can pretend that he’s the responsible party. But that doesn’t make it so.

    Pogo sussed that one out decades ago.

    1. I said in 2016 that what people Olson feared the most was not Trump becoming some kind of disaster President. They would have loved that. That would have allowed them to tell the deplorables I told you so and swoop in to take power again with their world view and moral and intellectual superiority vindicated.

      No, what they feared most was what has happened; Trump being a successful President. Trump before COVID presided over the best economy since Reagan. He is in the process of bringing peace to the Middle East. He got Serbia and Kosovo to make peace. He has contained Iran and put the Mullahs on the brink. He has built a coalition to counter China. He oversaw the first rise in real wages for the middle class in 40 years. He ran up a lot of debt but so has every other President since Carter. He also oversaw the first real reduction in the administrative state since Reagan, which is something Olson claims to support.

      For Trump to be that successful is something people like Olson just can’t accept or face. It shows their entire lives to be a complete failure. Someone like Olson has spent his entire professional life earning and being a member of the self appointed intellectual and political elite. And here some real estate developer from New York with crude tastes and even cruder and undesireable supporters comes in and does the “world’s most difficult job” better than any of the parade of “top men” who have come over the last 30 years and better by a wide margin. The two most successful Presidents in the last 40 years have been an actor and a real estate developer turned reality TV star. And the two biggest screw ups, were a Harvard Educated half black “light giver” worshiped by all of the elite and the son of a former President and member of one of the great political families in America. That is a reality that someone like Olson just can’t face.

      1. It is pretty astonishing that the two worst presidents of my lifetime are also the most “establishment” politicians of my lifetime. Neither one actually stood for anything.

        At least Carter did some good works with his deregulation… Don’t we have him to thank for the eventual availability of craft beer?

        1. And Carter to his credit learned from his mistakes. After the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, he threw out his “human rights first” policy and took a harder line with the Soviets. The Reagan defense build up actually started under Carter. A lot of people don’t know that.

          Today the establishment never admits to making a mistake and forever doubles down on any mistake they make.

          1. The Reagan defense build up actually started under Carter. A lot of people don’t know that.

            Yeah, Carter got a lot of shit for cancelling military programs and the “Hollow Army,” but when you dig into the numbers, he actually tried to increase military spending–the problem was that inflation ate up whatever increases took place. He was also trying to appease the doves in his party that had been elected to Congress post-Watergate, and prioritized readiness over force structure and weapons system development, so it ended up looking like he was cutting when it wasn’t necessarily the case.

            As you point out, Afghanistan and Iran changed those priorities rather quickly, but by then it was too late for him to really turn that around, and Reagan hammered him for it.

            1. To be fair, his views and policies helped bring on Iran and Afghanistan and he was slow to react.

        2. Don’t we have him to thank for the eventual availability of craft Billy beer?

      2. I think I remember you mentioning that what the neocons were most afraid of wasn’t that Trump would fall on his face, but that you could put someone like him in office and the government as it functions would chug along pretty much the same as it always has for decades, and that the last thing they wanted was for it to be revealed that you didn’t necessarily need to be Ivy League-educated to run the country. Because by doing so, it shows that the incestuous cathedral caste that these people have built up comprising lobbyists, politicians, bureaucracies, the media, think tanks, and elite universities is mostly just keeping their sinecures safe than watching out for the well-being of the nation.

    2. “I mean, sure he’s said plenty of provocative things.”

      And untrue things. And moronic things. And incoherent things.

      1. We are talking about Trump not Biden. Pay closer attention next time.

        1. White knight is exactly like Olson.
          Inherently worthless, untalented, and can only maintain the image of self importance within a system specifically designed to artificially inflate his obedient self conceit.
          Prove it’s an illusion, and he loses the basis of his ego.
          Take it away, and he doesn’t survive.

          1. Lotta projection there.

            1. “Nuh uh” would’ve been just as weak a defense, but shorter.
              Thinking is far too much to ask of you though

      2. “And untrue things. And moronic things. And incoherent things.”

        And to those with TDS, that is far more important than anything else Trump has done.

        1. Yes.

          That was the entire point.

          Confirmation bias leads you to latch on to some low-priority nonsense and ignore the big important stuff.

          If you chose this iteration of Biden over Trump’s record for any reason other than “I totally support the statist record of Kamala Harris and I think she will make a great president”, then your opinion can safely be discarded for now and for all time.

          I can totally get behind “I don’t like Trump”. I can even understand a generic sentiment of “I would take a generic Democrat over this asshole”, given certain policy proclivities. But Biden over Trump, as Biden currently exists? Please. That is not a serious position.

          That can only be explained by Team dynamics. Biden is in no shape to be a real president, and his party is as hostile to libertarian philosophy as any political movement has been in the last century, anywhere on the planet. They openly disdain the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 8th, 9th and 10th amendments…. and that’s just off the top of my head. They are literally calling for an end to free speech… not figuratively, they actually are moving toward repealing the 1st amendment. The one so important that they put it first.

          I can see having a belief that there is no justification for Trump. Politics is politics. And we love to do that around here anyway.

          But jumping to this version of Biden? No.. there’s no rationalization strong enough to make that anything less than crazy talk. The Green Party makes more sense than Biden at this point.

        2. “TDS” doesn’t play anymore. We’ve had four years to see how Trump has done on the job, and to see his character laid out. He’s failed the test.

          1. In your opinion. Others differ.

            1. Myself, his successes barely 9utweigh his failures but they do so much better than his last four predecessors.

              1. And only one President in my opinion has been arguably been better than him during my lifetime in his successes, Reagan. I don’t count Ford because I was born in June of 76, so Ford left office before I was one and Ford was hampered because of Nixon.

      3. Unlike any preceding US President?

    3. “…His thesis: “Mr. Trump erodes public trust and embarrasses his office. ”…”

      That, specifically, is TDS.
      It has nothing to do with Trump’s policies, it’s a whiny dislike of Trump personally.
      Trump could cure cancer, and find peace in the near east and assholes like Olson would vote for that slack-jawed, drooling Biden instead.

      1. It is occuring as we speak. He is drawing down troops in Iraq and Afghanistan. Has major diplomatic accomplishments in the Mideast between Israel and several Arabian Countries (and more on the way he promises) and European Muslim majority countries, yet the media is either silent or trying to give Obama (and Biden) the credit. And focusing on his warning Iran if they commit an act of war (killing a US diplomat) that he’ll retaliate as signs he is a secret War Monger. Hell even Reason has done it, mulitple times.

    4. “Mr. Trump erodes public trust and embarrasses his office. ”

      I have trouble picturing an authentic libertarian saying this like it’s a bad thing.

      1. Especially one wearing a boot on their head as a hat at the convention, for instance.

  35. https://twitter.com/ClimateRealists/status/1306157020630986753

    Environmental policy expert Michael Shellenberger says scientists agree high intensity fires can be moderated by managing the forests, but the fact is obscured by “this hyper politicisation around this climate apocalypse”. | Sky News Australia

  36. “America’s global prestige continues to drop. “Since Donald Trump took office as president, the image of the United States has suffered across many regions of the globe,”

    Oh noes! The Davos crowd doesn’t think the US is swank anymore.

  37. “America’s global prestige continues to drop.”

    Oh, noes! Getting unfriended will be devastating to our chances of landing a hot date at the global prom.

    1. Funny how this becomes a meme every time a Republican takes office.

      Back in the early 90’s, everyone hates the US. Germany calls us out, says we are not the world’s policeman. Says they will handle things in the Balkans and in the former Yugoslavia themselves. It was a europe thing.

      Fast forward a couple of years, and suddenly the US is terrible because they are not helping in the former Yugoslav countries. Clinton mostly botches the thing, but he’s a savior anyway. Only Christianne Amanpour had the balls to call him out on what was happening in Bosnia. Bush I and Bush II put together huge multinational coalitions. Obama and Clinton to a lesser degree failed to do so. Yet it was Bush I and II that were supposedly terrible on the world stage, rogue mavericks who went it alone, bringing hate upon the US. Obama never met a 3rd world dump that he didn’t want to bomb, yet he has a nobel peace prize to show for his efforts… and despite his status as a “constitutional law professor”, managed to avoid ever once following the constitution on the use of force.

      They said Reagan was going to start WWIII, but it was Carter who gave us the Iran problem.

      1. Well, Trump did start WWIII, but it didn’t last more than a news-cycle.

        1. Twice. Or is it thrice?

        2. Actually between Regan Bush and trump there have been more world wars than Rocky movies.
          Regan had wwiii and wwiv between Russia and South america
          Bush had wwv going into Iraq and afghanistan
          And trump has had wwvi when pulling out of syria
          Wwvii when he killed a terrorist
          Wwviii when he moved the embasy to jeruselum
          Wwix as he is pulling out of afghanistan

          Judging by media reports we are lucky we have destroyed ourselves with all the world wars that the Republicans lead us into!

      2. The world will never like America anyway. No one ever likes the most successful country. All that matters is they respect us and also fear us a bit.

        1. The good news on that front is that sometime in the next couple of decades, China will go roaring past us. India is a little further behind, but you have to think they will eventually pull their heads out of their butts and get their economy going.

          By 2050 the US should be no better than 3rd on the list. Lucky for them, the US will have paid the price for handing over a mostly peaceful world for them to inhabit. If they can avoid any imperial dreams, they can avoid the ugly mess of proxy wars and we can all live in a wonderful, free trade utopia.

          (wait, wasn’t I the one recommending reading the anti-Utopian writings of the last century earlier today?)

          1. I don’t think China is roaring past anyone. It has peaked. Central planning always fails in the end. And China for all of it’s pretensions of being capitalist remains a centrally planned state. It is going to implode. The question is when and whether they start a world war to try and avoid it.

            I think India has a better future than China. But it is not going to pass the US. It is too poor, too tribal and third world to ever be a great world power.

            1. Xi will pass.

              There’s too much wealth there now. They have over 350 million middle class citizens. And billionaires coming out of their butts.

              People don’t like going backwards.

              I’ll agree that it is entirely possible that they’ll kill the whole thing – people in general being stupid as a group and government in particular being spectacularly stupid…

              But they have momentum behind having a nice, comfortable life. And hundreds of millions who are a part of it. If the other 3/4 of a billion who are still poor don’t burn the whole thing down, they should be able to grow themselves out of the mess just like we did a hundred years ago.

              1. The problem is that you cannot have a capitalist economy and also maintain the kind of oppression and state security the Chinese Communist Party requires. Yeah, they have all of these middle class people now. But, with wealth comes expectations. And they are not going to forever accept the kind of control that the Chinese government imposes. Worse, that kind of control and surveillance will end up crippling their economy and leaving those people no longer middle class. To run the kind of state China runs, you have to reward and punish people based on politics and their loyalty to the state. And you can’t do that and also have a productive capitalist economy. It is too counter to the sort of meritocracy capitalism requires. To the extent China has managed that, it has been through intellectual property theft and completely one sided trade deals. The world has gotten wise to those and that source of capital and innovation is drying up.

                1. My assumption is that their state control will be the loser.

                  But I’ve been wrong about that before. I certainly didn’t think the ‘great firewall’ would survive, let alone evolve to the point of having a “Social Credit System”.

                  1. I think their state control will be the loser. I just think that that won’t happen peacefully.

                2. The problem is that you cannot have a capitalist economy and also maintain the kind of oppression and state security the Chinese Communist Party requires.

                  For a long time, I thought this too, but so far they keep proving me wrong.

              2. China’s demographics aren’t looking good. They missed their chance to take top spot, and their next chance won’t be for another 50 years at least.

                India is looking much better long term, but it still remains to be seen if they can unfuck themselves enough to do it. The BJP has been strong at the national level and has been methodically winning over state governments for years now, so they could definitely pull it off. Fortunately, they share in the enlightenment culture that respects individual rights (if imperfectly) that we have, so I’m not too worried about them.

                1. The stories I’m hearing out of India are hardly “enlightenment friendly”. But hopefully….

                  1. Like what? Since the Ghandi dictatorship, they’ve had a functional, if flawed, liberal democracy. They don’t keep ethnic minorities in concentration camps, they don’t summarily execute political dissidents on street corners, they have a largely free press that’s probably as adversarial to the current Modi administration as ours is to the Trump administration, they generally respect individual rights about as much as the typical European country, and now they’re even getting on board with largely free market capitalism. Again, not perfect, but I doubt they’ll become a China-style technocratic dystopia any sooner than we will.

                  2. India, like most former colonial countries, was never a single culture until colonized. It has problems as a result of this but seems better placed and more liberal than most former colonial states.

              3. If history is any indication, the revolt and the subsequent downfall will be started by the rich and middle class. Oh they’ll put the peasants out front, but the true uprising will be the middle class and wealthy. It’s easy to revolt when you have free time not worried about where your food is coming from.

                1. And Chinese history has been one of growth by one generation, squandered by the next generation as it becomes more authoritarian and xenophobic. I think Xi has started this bust cycle.

            2. One of the reasons that China will fail to lead the world economically is that they do not innovate. What bold new technological developments have come from China in the past 200 years or so?

              They’ve made a lot of progress recently – relative to themselves – but they borrow, copy, or steal every advancement they’ve made from someone or somewhere else. The closer they get to the leaders, the slower that process will become.

          2. The good news on that front is that sometime in the next couple of decades, China will go roaring past us. India is a little further behind, but you have to think they will eventually pull their heads out of their butts and get their economy going.

            Hahahahahahahahaha.

            I love when people do this. Will the movies start coming soon? The endless articles and sci-fi about how America is over again?

            Yes, AGAIN.

            Because this far east powerhouse nonsense happens every decade or so.

            And each time the dragon is revealed as paper.

            But someone snaps it up as soon as the people laughing at them stop.

    2. “global prom”

      The Iranians spike the punchbowl and the EU spreads her legs for China and gives him the clap.

  38. One of the problems with refusing to acknowledge President Trump’s accomplishments ahead of the upcoming election is that his successes demonstrate the effectiveness of some important libertarian ideas–one good example of which is Trump’s recent (and ongoing) victories in the area of peace in the Middle East.

    We spent a lot of time in comments yesterday talking about how President Trump’s threats to retaliate against Iran and his leadership in confronting Iran are actually the impetus for peace in the region, and there is no doubt but that the desire to resist Iran (and Turkey) is one of the things driving our diverse allies, from Israel to Saudi Arabia, to come together.

    I think that’s only half the story. The other half of the story is that Trump’s reluctance to become involved in the Middle East has made it clear that our allies will need to rely on each other–rather than the United States–to protect them from their enemies in Iran and Turkey. Consider the following:

    1) President Trump refused to launch a full scale invasion of Syria to defeat ISIS, depending on our allies in Syria and coordinating with Putin and Putin’s allies in Syria to defeat ISIS instead.

    Later, President Trump withdrew American troops from harm’s way in Syria rather than become embroiled in the civil war there when the Turks invaded.

    American pundits of all stripes were appalled at Trump’s decisions in Syria, but to governments in the region, the obvious became clear–they may be allies of the U.S., and we’ll sell them the hardware they need, but in the future, especially with Trump as President, they’ll be fighting their own battles.

    2) When Iran tried to provoke President Trump into attacking them by seizing the ships of our allies as they traveled through the Persian Gulf, President Trump did nothing. When Iran tried to provoke President Trump into attacking them by targeting Saudi oil production facilities, President Trump did nothing. President Trump finally retaliated when the Iranians targeted Americans directly, but the Iranians weren’t the only ones who noticed that President Trump is concerned about American security interests–to the exclusion of attacks on our allies.

    3) President Trump has reached a peace deal with the Taliban to eliminate the American presence in Afghanistan completely by the end of April. Meanwhile, President Trump has withdrawn our troops from Iraq to the point that there will only be 3,000 U.S. troops in Iraq by the end of September.

    Conclusion: American journalists may be confused about the direction U.S. troops are flowing, but our allies in the region seem to understand that we’re headed back to the United States–and if our allies want to defend themselves against the threats presented by belligerent and expansionist states in Turkey and Iran, they better work together. In other words, Trump’s withdrawal from the Middle East may be creating as much impetus for peace in the region as his leadership in confronting Iran. Neither policy is happening by accident. Trump is pursuing both and on purpose.

    That is an extremely important libertarian message that isn’t being delivered around here–because so many “libertarians” with TDS are so obsessed with calling Trump out as a warmonger. Anyone who isn’t willing to push libertarian foreign policies if doing so means recognizing the facts and giving Trump credit for the libertarian aspects of his foreign policy–should stop calling themselves libertarian or get over their TDS already.

    1. Trump has been successful on the international stage because diplomacy really is just another form of deal making. Trump being a real estate developer understands negotiating and deal making. Our foreign policy establishment doesn’t and never has.

      US diplomacy has generally been such a failure because here is how negotiating with the US usually goes. The US goes to an adversary and demands everything it wants the way it wants it with nothing in return in such a way that giving in would result in the complete humiliation of the adversary without giving any reason at all to agree other than “doing the right thing”. The adversary then understandably tells the US to fuck off. The US then either rolls over and gives the adversary everything it wants or doubles down and goes to war with said adversary.

      All Trump has done is figure out ways to give people a reason to make a deal, either by making the alternatives to making one unpalatable or making the benefits of making a deal irresistible. That is it.

      Like everything, Trump’s enemies project everything they are onto him. According to his adversaries, it is Trump who is a hot head and belligerent and unreasonable on the world stage. No it is the US foreign policy establishment who is like that and as a result has gotten the US into one stupid war after another or one humiliation after another over the last 70 years. Trump is the one who is reasonable and figures out how to give nations a reason to want to do what is in the US’s interests.

      1. “Trump has been successful on the international stage…”

        Stop there. Has he?

        How successful has he been in dealing with Iran and North Korea?

        1. Yes he has. He cleaned up the mess that Clinton left in Kosovo. He has gotten the Arabs to normalize relations with Israel, something that the establishment couldn’t be done. He has contained the Russians and gotten Europe to start rearming. He has built a coalition against China and made great strides in weakening it and isolating it on the world stage. He got the Europeans to reimpose sanctions against Iran.

          That is a long list of very significant accomplishments. It is a longer list than the last three Presidents combined can claim. And oh by the way, he hasn’t launched any illegal wars or destroyed any countries, which is something the last President can’t say.

          Those are the facts. You can’t deny them. But you are too pig headed and partisan to admit them. So, instead you just snicker like the jackass you are.

        2. Because he hasn’t solved all the worlds’ problems in four years doesn’t mean he hasn’t been incredibly effective or that he hasn’t been an immensely positive force for peace.

          1. And for the life of me, I can’t figure out how it has worked.

            That’s probably a part of their problem.

            Trump’s particular style has so much bluster, so much puffery, so much just….nonsense… it is really hard to see what is actually happening.

            But when you stack it all up, it is a pretty amazing list. At some point I have to set aside my prejudice against Trump (which pre-exists his foray into politics by a couple of decades) and accept the results over my gut instincts.

            1. Part of it is the coverage.

              I don’t think average people know that he negotiated and signed a peace deal with the Taliban.

              Who’s going to tell them about it?

            2. It has worked for the reason I describe. Trump has given nations a reason to make a deal.

        3. “How successful has he been in dealing with Iran and North Korea?”

          Well, he hasn’t shipped pallets of money to Iran to help with their nuke program, and he has met with Kim and at least tries, unlike Clinton who ignored him.
          So within the realm of the possible, he’s done quite well, and even dim-bulb TDS victims should recognize that

        4. How successful has he been in dealing with Iran and North Korea?
          More so than your lord and savior Barack H. Chri Obama.
          At least he got North Korea to the table and did it without giving them billions for their terrorism slush fund like the Lightbringer did with Iran.

          1. My lord and savior Barack Obama?

            That assumes a lot. I’m not an Obama fan.

            1. Good thing he didn’t call you a fan but instead a receptacle.

        5. He reached out and tried with North Korea, they rejected his gestures so he has isolated them. Obama tried appeasement with Iran and by most measures the nuclear deal was a joke and Iran continued to help kill Americans. So Trump has confronted them and isolated them. He has worked to build an anti-Iran alliance in the Mideast and this may very well bear fruit in several years. Success isn’t an overnight thing. Sometimes diplomacy is ugly. Reagan didn’t talk with Breshnev, he confronted him and isolated the USSR It was only after he passed and Gobechav rose that Reagan began to engage and even then only after Gobechav reached out.

    2. We spent a lot of time in comments yesterday

      Go outside.

    3. And don’t think Putin and Russia aren’t aware of our European troop repositionings. Germany complains about US troops, Trump moves them to Poland, Belgium and the US. Germany whines were abandoning out allies, but Poland is between Russia and Germany, locating troops in Poland is a bigger deterrence than troops stationed in Germany.

  39. https://twitchy.com/sarahd-313035/2020/09/15/jemele-hill-comes-so-close-to-condemning-the-shooting-of-two-la-county-deputies-but-she-ultimately-just-cant-help-herself/

    @jemelehill
    606 lawsuits were filed against the LA police, with 539 against the LA County Sheriff’s Office. The county spent $81 M settling or litigating these lawsuits.

    What happened to these officers was awful, but it’s funny how the police want everyone else to be accountable but them.

    CBS Los Angeles
    @CBSLA
    ‘“I want to make a challenge…to LeBron James’: LA Sheriff Villanueva says Lakers star, social activist should ‘step up’ and help double reward to find gunman who shot deputies

  40. “Germans give the U.S. particularly low marks on the survey: 26% rate the U.S. favorably, similar to the 25% in the same March 2003 poll.”

    How about in March, 1945?

    1. Well German troops discovered that they weren’t that keen on being captured by, or surrendering to, the Russians, so Americans were starting to become the shit.

      June 6, 1944 though…

      1. Even then many German commanders could read the writing on the wall and tried to get Hitler to negotiate a peace with the US. When Hitler refused, some tried to assassinate him as part of a coup attempt. The German Army knew it would be better for Germany to surrender or negotiate with the western allies rather than allow the Soviets to defeat them.

  41. https://twitter.com/KarenAttiah/status/1305919394065850369

    Finally saw “Cuties”…

    I find it deeply beautiful, nuanced, and about so, so, much more than what the outrage is all about.

    Puberty is confusing, but being a first-generation African girl growing up in a Western country makes it tougher.

    “Cuties” captures that tension well

    1. That could all be true… and the outrage could still be justified.

    2. so talk your daughter through it in your kitchen, KarenAttiah …

  42. https://twitter.com/BarrettWilson6/status/1306050923949588480
    Sorority girl accused of rioting in Lancaster has bail set at $1 million

    1. https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1305970657704910848

      There was one night of rioting in Lancaster. The police showed up, arrested the criminals, and now the judge has set the bail for rioters at 1 million dollars. Swift response, harsh penalties, problem solved. No more riots.

  43. Nancy Pelosi has threatened to keep Congress in session until the Republicans in the Senate and President Trump agree to enact her $3.5 trillion stimulus bill.

    So far, the Republicans in the Senate and President Trump don’t give a shit.

    1. She can only keep the house in session. So a fat lot of good that will do.

      1. While the House is in session, all of those freshman Democrats who won in swing districts giving the Democrats the House majority are stuck in Washington while their opponents are out knocking on doors and campaigning asking why the Democrats in the House can’t pass any COVID relief. The Democrats, since they are in the majority, hold the majority of House seats that are in play. So keeping the House in Washington rather than out campaigning hurts them far more than it hurts the Republicans.

      2. The biggest point to me is that the Republicans (and Trump) seem to be standing by their opposition to bailing out the states.

        The governments of California, Illinois, and New York are about to become smaller–and will get even smaller still if President Trump is reelected.

        And if BIden wins, the staff at Reason will say that there was no difference between the Democrats and Republicans on spending because the deficit went up while President Trump was president–despite the fact that the Republicans stood fast and refused to introduce any new spending–during a recession and eight weeks ahead of an election.

        If Hillary Clinton were President, we would have spent that extra $3.5 trillion, and if Biden becomes President, he’s proposing trillions more than we’ll get under Trump–and not just on the Green New Deal.

        1. But.. .orange man bad.

          You just worship Cheeto-Jesus.

          That’s why you think it is important to avoid bailing out all of the failed pension funds in the US states that promise lifetime payments at the highest level of earnings beginning in your 50’s.

    2. So she’s threatening to hold the Democrats’ breath until they get what they want. It’s almost as funny as the left threatening to keep burning down their own cities unless the country votes for Biden.

      1. In her defense, the Republicans unwillingness to spend in a recession and eight weeks ahead of an election is astounding.

        1. There’s so much “news” going around right now that I don’t think it matters. Even if it did and the media tried to paint the Republicans as evil scrooges that don’t want to help the unemployed, the only areas that are still in recession are Democrat-held areas with restrictive lockdowns. I don’t think the left will come out ahead in that conversation.

          So the Republicans have nothing they want from a bailout, and consequently they don’t feel any urgency to make a “deal” to get a bailout. Hopefully, this won’t be the last time not spending money is the politically expedient thing to do.

          1. As an addendum to this, the Democrats could have been able to muscle through their $3.5 trillion dollar pipe dream if they wanted to. If the media hadn’t decided it would be a good look to show leftists burning down cities, they could have focused on the economic recession and unemployment, and that would have been more than enough pressure to make the Republicans in Congress buckle. But they didn’t. TDS has driven them beyond insane and into the realm of mental retardation.

            1. Very good point.

              Too many in the media believe their own bullshit!

        2. Unwillingness to spend? They have over a trillion on the table. That’s on top of … what… 8 trillion we already spent?

          It is so much money that you can’t even keep track. They just toss it around like there’s no consequences.

          1. The last Republican proposal in the Senate was for $350 billion in extra spending.

            I call it a “proposal” because it couldn’t get enough Republican support to clear procedural hurdles. It never made it to the floor for a vote because too many Republicans prefer to spend nothing.

  44. Scientific American chooses truth over facts:
    https://archive.vn/Zv76k

    1. I gave up on SA many years ago, as their content reflected increasing activism, and they spun “science” as a partisan tool.

    2. we urge you to vote for Joe Biden, who is offering fact-based plans to protect our health, our economy and the environment. These and other proposals he has put forth can set the country back on course for a safer, more prosperous and more equitable future.

      So, the Green New Deal is now fact based, socialism is more prosperous than capitalism, and social equity is a scientific principle. These guys can go fuck themselves in the ass with a rusty telescope.

      1. I like how the goal of universal ‘equity’ is now thrown around like it’s an unalloyed good.

    3. This is actually a really big deal. Scientific American cannot maintain its 175 year policy of politically neutrality, but the Mormon Church can?

      https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/official-statement/political-neutrality

      The extent of the infiltration of Marxist ideology into American academia is profound.

  45. The constitution doesn’t go far enough to protect our right to free thought.

    I’m not talking about freedom from fake news or some bullshit like that. I’m talking Elon Musk brain implant that directly controls your thoughts and feeling.

    There’s no constitutional amendment that protects you from the government directly controlling your thoughts, and our founding fathers just assumed freedom of thought.

    If given the option to implant a chip in people’s heads that would make them not only never think a racist, sexist, homophobic thought, would progressives make in mandatory? Or would they pull out the”right to privacy” that’s not in the constitution and protects abortion but nothing else?

    And would they stop there? Or would they go the whole 9 yards and throw capitalism, individualism, and other ideas deemed “white supremacy” on the unalloyed thoughts list?

    1. Hmm, let’s ask the average humanities professor…

      1. Luckily, the average humanities professor understands that western medicine and the scientific method are merely tools of colonialism and a racist construct.

        So no worries there.

        1. Never underestimate the power of leftist doublethink.

    2. There’s no constitutional amendment that protects you from the government directly controlling your thoughts, and our founding fathers just assumed freedom of thought.

      There’s no need for one! Anything not explicitly granted as an authority to the government is NOT an authority of the government.

      The amendments were intended only to serve as a pointed reminder of some certain rights the founders REALLY wanted to emphasize and were not intended to be the boundary of your constitutionally protected rights.

      They were so serious about that they tacked on the 9th AND 10th amendments which are pretty similar and both are basically reiterating the fact that THESE ARE NOT ALL YOUR RIGHTS! Just some really important ones they wanted to emphasize.

      The constitution gives the federal government NO power to control your thoughts.

      Now, here in 2020, the congress, executive, and courts have discerned the “fuck you that’s why” clause of the constitution so none of this matters anymore.

  46. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1306230893074317312

    Two years ago — before Mueller closed his probe — the
    @NewYorker
    published an 8,000 profile of me insinuating mental illness may be why I was minimizing the Grave Threat of Russia and refusing to see the grand conspiracy (as they did to Chomsky and Naomi Klein before that).

    Now:
    Quote Tweet

    Matt Taibbi
    @mtaibbi
    · 3h
    After hyping the Russia threat for four years, the New Yorker quietly wonders if the story might have been exaggerated:

    1. Remember how impeachment was going to stain Trump forever? Funny, the Democrats refuse to talk about it anymore. Must be out of kindness or something.

  47. https://twitter.com/voxdotcom/status/1305919325275074560

    Beethoven’s Fifth Symphony is one of classical music’s most famous works.

    But to many, it’s also a symbol of elitism and exclusion.

    Listen to
    @SwitchedOnPop
    and
    @nyphil
    explain why

    1. Roll over Beethoven, make way for woke rhythm and blues.

  48. https://www.nrcc.org/2020/09/16/child-hair-sniffer-endorses-pedo-sex-poet/

    Joe Biden, who likes to sniff kids’ hair, tells 10-year olds they’re “good looking,” and enjoys when children touch his leg hair in the pool, just endorsed pedo sex poet Jon Hoadley.

    1. https://www.nrcc.org/2020/08/31/pelosi-endorses-pedo-sex-poet/

      Pelosi endorses pedo sex poet
      CARLY ATCHISON | AUGUST 31, 2020
      Over the weekend Nancy Pelosi endorsed meth-using, pedo sex poet Jon Hoadley.

      So… the Speaker of the House thinks a creep who fantasizes about 4-year olds in thongs and crystal meth and describes his sex partners as “victims,” is a good fit to represent Michigan in the U.S. Congress.

      The leader of the Democrat Party, everyone!

  49. https://twitter.com/davidpopp/status/1305982435692249088

    “Pelosi and senior Democrats argue that no deal would be better than simply caving to a GOP proposal that would fail to address major sectors of the economy, most especially aid to state and local governments…”

    1. “Not spending a trillion dollars is better than spending a trillion dollars”
      I’m scared, I agree with Nancy Pelosi.

  50. Oh look, yet another win for Trump, as the Big Ten changes course and decides to have a season after all.

    Of course they will publicly make a big show of acting like his pressure and influence had nothing at all to do with their decision, but we all know damn well this is a bunch of bullcrap. The love of American football is bipartisan and transcends pretty much all of our culture.

    1. The rumor was that the presidents voted to cancel the season because they thought it would hurt Trump. After they canceled the season, a group of Nebraska football players sued the Big 10 claiming they didn’t follow their own rules in canceling the season. This meant that the minutes from the meeting were going to be made public via discovery. No one but the President’s knows what was said at that meeting. But once it became clear that the minutes from the meeting were going to come out in discovery, the Big 10 suddenly decided to consider having a season after all and of course rendering the lawsuit moot.

      1. Really, this outcome was almost inevitable. The players want to play, the coaches want to play, the overwhelming majority of students want them to play, and the overwhelming majority of fans want them to play. And it certainly doesn’t hurt that many of those schools happen to be located in key swing states! Programs like Michigan, Ohio State, and Penn State are loved by men, women, black people, white people, you name it.

        Trump came into the game and immediately shoved his stack of chips into the middle of the table, and these poor jerkoff loser university board members were sitting there holding a 5 high.

        1. If they don’t play this year, I don’t see how the Big 10 ever is able to recruit on an even level with the conferences who are playing. Why would you go to a Big 10 school when there is a real possibility they might not play at all?

        2. A 5 high? You mean a straight? That’s actually not a bad hand.

          1. A 5-high straight would have to have an ace in it, meaning it would never be called 5-high. The lowest possible poker hand is 2,3,4,5,7 off-suit.

            In Texas Hold’em, you are only dealt two cards, so you can be technically be ‘holding’ a 5 as your highest card. Having an unpaired 5 as your highest hole card, it is strategically sound to fold rather than play the hand if you are called. WCR’s analogy is valid.

            1. And THAT is how you do ‘pedantic’!

            2. All true. Also, there’s no reason to think that any cards are on the table. Big raises happen pre-flop too.

          2. Hold em.
            2 hole cards.
            2-5.
            5 community cards.
            K-Q-3-7-9 board.
            = 5 high

            1. Damn, chuck beat me to it

      2. Those ignorant hillbillies didn’t even learn to destroy evidence like their betters on the coasts.

    2. So if enough people complain, it’s ok for Grandma to die? Interesting.

  51. The USC football team is pressuring Gavin Newsom to let them play football.

    https://twitter.com/Kedonslovis/status/1305994273024651267/photo/1

    Meanwhile, the Big Ten has decided to go ahead an play football this season despite the coronavirus.

    If someone wrote a story about how Michael Jordan scored more power play goals than any shortstop in NFL history, I’m not sure Reason staff would notice anything off about that, but the decision to play football by the Big Ten is probably a big deal. It’s a market driven decision that’s meant to take advantage of consumer support for those games–and it may be an indication of how the people who run that division are gauging the general public’s support for lockdowns relative to something like watching football on TV.

    In other words, this might be an interesting gauge of public opinion, especially considering the markets the Big Ten serves. Here’s a list of some of the important Big Ten markets I’m talking about:

    University of Michigan
    Michigan State
    Ohio State
    Penn State
    University of Minnesota
    University of Wisconsin

    The winner of the upcoming election depends on which way those swing states go, and the fans of the teams at those universities encompass the whole spectrum–from progressive Democrat to conservative Republican.

    If the Big Ten thinks that people in those states will support playing football despite the coronavirus, that may not auger well for Biden if he plans to keep hammering on President Trump’s response to the coronavirus. Is there any question but that Democrats and Biden are associated with lockdowns and Trump and the Republicans are thought to be generally opposed to them?

    Watching the Padres win against the Dodgers the night before last, I couldn’t help but think of how much it sucks that we can’t attend that game. The environment would have been electric! If Biden wants to place himself between Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, and Wisconsin fans and the games they want to see, he’s crazy–and all those teams will be playing each other to empty stadiums throughout October.

    I can’t help but think that the worm is turning on support for the lockdowns–and if the Democrats don’t start putting some distance between support for the lockdowns and themselves, they may pay for it come election day.

    1. You just say that because you want people to die!

  52. America’s global prestige continues to drop.

    Yes, we need to be very concerned about what the socialists think of us.

    Black people account for nearly 90 percent of marijuana arrests in Washington, D.C.

    Sounds to me like black people need to get rid of all the racist fucks in their city government.

    “Four years ago I was a ‘Never Trump’ voter,” writes longtime libertarian Walter Olson, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute, in the Wall Street Journal. “Now, I’m more set than ever in that view: No Trump, doubled.

    Oh, Walter. Trump is rude, crude, nasty, vulgar and demeans the office of President. You should be celebrating. Nobody needs to be looking up to politicians, they’re all scum. And saying you’re a Never-Trumper is admitting you’d cheerfully vote for Satan – it’s not like the alternative to Trump is Walter Olson, the alternative to Trump is “Joe Biden”. (We all know Biden is going to be President in name only, he’s far too stupid and shallow to have ever had an original thought in his life, he’s a stooge and a patsy. He fucking admitted that it never occurred to him to think there might be something odd about his son getting a sweet gig with a Ukranian oil company despite his not knowing a thing about Ukraine, oil, or business at all – and I believe him.)

    “In other words, the White House is being a petty asshole, again, and firing anyone for not being in lockstep with the President’s ridiculous unconstitutional whims,” commented Mike Masnick at Techdirt.

    The nerve of that fucker, wanting to appoint people who agree with him rather than disagree with him! But then, Mike Masnick is the asshole that thinks we need government regulation of the internet and bitches endlessly about how Ajit Pai is regulating the internet. How the fuck did you think regulation was going to work? Government regulation has always been for sale to the highest bidder. And when you consider the whole purpose of Section 230 was to protect free speech and now it’s being used to close off free speech, maybe it’s time to rethink the whole idea. Saying you’re going to block people for saying “untrue” things gets a little tricky when you’re trying to decide what’s fact and what’s opinion and what opinions are too dangerous to allow.

    1. “Sounds to me like black people need to get rid of all the racist fucks in their city government.”

      So Mayor Bowser and all the other dark-skinned people on the D.C. city council are all Uncle Toms?

      1. “So Mayor Bowser and all the other dark-skinned people on the D.C. city council are all Uncle Toms?”

        Worse. Socialists.

    2. “Black people account for nearly 90 percent of marijuana arrests in Washington, D.C.”

      FWIW, Washington DC is more than 50% black, and, apparently, more than 60% of its police force is black.

      https://mpdc.dc.gov/page/statistics

      That 90% statistic would be far more dramatic if it were a national average–where about 12% of the population is black.

      I suspect the marijuana arrests in DC are probably more commensurate with economic groups rather than race. What percentage of white people arrested for marijuana are in the lower income levels?

      P.S. A society that can’t tolerate the Redskins is an intolerant society.

      1. “P.S. A society that can’t tolerate the Redskins is an intolerant society.”

        Tolerating the team is hard. I get the controversy over the name. Can you imagine a team like the Carolina Coons, the Blacksburg Blackies, or the Washington Wetbacks?

        1. I think society should tolerate the awful shit neo-nazis and anti-fa say.

          I guess I’m just a tolerant guy.

        2. So the solution is to throw the Indians out of the league but let the Cowboys run wild?

        3. there was literally the Birmingham Black Barons.

          1. There were maroons back in the 30s too. I think Racine?
            Maroons are black Indians from the Caribbean. I’m not sure if that what bugs bunny was also referring to.

      2. Quit white-splaining!

        1. I can’t whitesplain because I identify as Native American.

    3. Black people are not only 50% of the population in DC, they are nearly all of the middle and lower classes in DC and nearly all of the people under 25. DC is a city of poor and middle class and young blacks, and older wealthy white people with a few thousand college students thrown in. Given that Demographic, of course most of the pot arrests are of black people. K street lawyers and high end government workers generally don’t get busted for pot anywhere.

  53. >>America’s global prestige continues to drop.

    if you knew how much global opinion mattered to me you wouldn’t print such triggers #ontheledge

    1. Where are the numbers showing what Americans think of the rest of the world?

      Maybe our opinion of the rest of the world isn’t what it used to be either.

      1. I wouldn’t even know how to answer that. “I played a really nice course on Aruba in 1989 I’ve never forgotten … but Angela Merkel seems bitchy, so meh.”

        1. Germans are a bunch of lanky effete nazi assholes chucks and can choke to death on my wurst.

        2. Who’s France?

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  55. Anyone else notice huge gains in 3rd Quarter GDP growth estimates?

    30%+

    This is after a -30% drop in 2Q 2020 GDP.

    A 60 point swing in GDP!

  56. Ok Reason.. a little free story advice.

    We have all read that Republicans are totally evil for complaining about progressives attempts (and successes) in using control of social media companies to shut down speech they disagree with.

    Now, how about doing the libertarian position?

    What is the libertarian position on using a combination of a heckler’s veto, state power, mob rule and deception to create a controlled information environment that the Soviets or Chinese Communist party would be proud of?

    The progressives have learned their lesson from AM talk radio. Allowing even a dark, unused corner of the means of communication to fall into the hands of their enemy cannot be tolerated. Decades of “fairness doctrine” threats failed to shut down Rush Limbaugh. They are not about to let that happen again.

    So they have used pressure on social media companies, pressure on the banks, pressure on the ISPs, pressure on hosting companies… any supplier they can think of.. to shut down speech they disagree with anywhere on the internet. Just like the Chinese have done with mentions of Tienanmen Square.

    Without a free exchange of ideas, how can we live in a free society. Democracy cannot withstand that assault, that’s why free speech was directly enshrined in the constitution.

    So, sure… we value the freedom of companies to run their business as they wish.

    So what do we do as the main avenues for sharing information are coopted by partisans for one team in the political arena? What is the libertarian position on “just go create your own then” when the banks are too afraid of the mob to do business with you, internet service providers are similarly afraid of the mob and won’t allow you to connect your servers, hosting companies won’t put you on their platform for fear of the mob…..

    Functionally there is no difference between this and the left using the levers of state directly. The threat to the marketplace of ideas is the same.

    So where are we to go, Reason? How are we to explain the value of liberty to the american electorate if such ideas are not allowed to be shared or discussed?

    Remember, it is libertarian beliefs that are specifically equated to violence. We are first up on the “don’t allow them a platform” chopping block.

    1. Libertarian thought has a very hard time accounting for private collective action and especially mob action and terrorism. The idea of “just go start your own whatever” doesn’t work if the other side is using mob violence or intimidation against you. As you point out, you can’t just go start your own. Libertarians can’t account for that. And they have a bad habit of assuming everyone is just reasonable as they are and worse that everyone is motivated by money such that cultural and political prejudices and hatred can always be overcome if only we would let the magic market solve them.

      1. Can we at least agree that social media censorship and Cuties are bad even if one doubts the government’s ability to do anything about either?

        Bad?

      2. The idea of “just go start your own whatever” doesn’t work if the other side is using mob violence”

        A mob is a government of sorts, they become a militia if they are working for an entity’s purposes.

      3. Libertarians do believe in the police, you know. The libertarian idea of “what happens if the other side uses mob violence against you?” is that the state should step in and stop it with superior violence. This is one of the few legitimate uses of state violence.

        It was remarkably effective in Lancaster. Police arrested the mob, bail was set high and it seems the DA has every intention of doing their job. They had 1 night of riots, as opposed to months of them, entirely because of what the state did. When the state chooses to act in these situations the violent mob dissipates pretty quickly. Trump has said he could end the Portland rioting in an hour and I believe him. It would not be pretty, but it would be over.

        To the extent that the left has been effective at intimidating people (and corporations) with violence, it’s because the state has failed to fulfill one of it’s most basic functions. If anything this reinforces libertarians’ distrust in government, we gave them very few actual tasks and they fail at even those.

        To the extent that the left has been effective at intimidating people (and corporations) with social pressure and boycott, well that’s just 1A.

        1. True… sort of.

          But also a complete dodge.

          Not all threats to a free society come from government.

  57. BTW,
    South African guy is (was) infatuated with Red China, moves there, starts a career, and then finds out maybe it’s not such a wonderful place:
    “I owe EVERYTHING to China!”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSUyAMBAjKw

  58. “President Donald Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden—want to repeal Section 230 of federal communications law, it’s perhaps the best indicator that doing so is a bad idea.
    The best indicator that it’s a good idea is that ENB and her Davos pals are against repealing 230.

    As First Amendment lawyer and law professor Eric Goldman put it earlier this summer: “Turns out that censorship is a bipartisan objective.”
    230 gives Google et al the power that utilities lack, to censor individuals for whatever reason they want, but none of the liability that comes with publishing. It’s effectively given them powers democratic governments don’t even have.
    It’s anti-libertarian in every sense.

    “But hurrdurr, muh private company”
    Libertarian ideals shouldn’t be practiced solely by governments, and liability protection like in 230 isn’t remotely libertarian.

    1. There are few bigger grafters and phonies than self proclaimed “1st Amendment law attorneys”. What a joke. 1st Amendment law is by far the easiest part of Con Law.

  59. New FCC Nominee Has Already Been Helping Trump Try To Censor Social Media

    The question I have, is he doing it faster than the tech companies are?

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