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Remember When a Democratic Polling Firm Fired the Guy Who Thought Violent Protests Could Backfire Politically?

A pre-Kenosha poll shows support for Black Lives Matter plummeting among white voters in Wisconsin.

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Back in June, the sudden firing of data scientist David Shor from the progressive consulting firm Civis Analytics raised eyebrows.

Shor had publicized research from the social scientist Omar Wasow showing that violent protests tend to backfire on progressive goals—tipping the 1968 election in favor of the law-and-order candidate, Richard Nixon, for instance—whereas peaceful protests often succeed. In response, Shor was widely derided by the left. On Twitter, the progressive activist Ari Trujillo Wesler accused him of using his "anxiety and 'intellect' as a vehicle for anti-blackness." Employees and clients of Civis Analytics said Shor's statement—which, to be clear, was merely an endorsement of well-grounded social science research that says nonviolent protest is strategically superior—had threatened their very safety, according to New York magazine's Jonathan Chait.

As a result, Shor was terminated. The exact reason for the firing was never specified, but it spoke to concerns among many liberal thinkers—Chait, Vox's Matt Yglesias, and others—that certain sects of the left are unwilling to have difficult conversations about tactics. This is a concern shared by many libertarians, and supporters of free speech culture more broadly.

On Wednesday, polling by Marquette Law School showed that support for Black Lives Matter has plummeted among white Wisconsinites. (The poll was conducted before the recent police shooting in Kenosha, and thus does not reflect attitudes toward that event.)

"A substantial majority approved of protests in June, but this fell to an even split, 48-48 in August," wrote polling director Charles Franklin. Black and Hispanic attitudes toward Black Lives Matter changed little over the summer, but white approval had fallen and "become net negative."

A related piece in Politico surveyed residents of Kenosha—where peaceful protests but also violence, rioting, fires, and looting have consumed the streets at night—and perhaps unsurprisingly discovered plenty of wariness, even among people who are not exactly the law-and-order type:

"There's no doubt it's playing into Trump's hands," said Paul Soglin, who served as mayor of Madison, on and off, for more than two decades. "There's a significant number of undecided voters who are not ideological, and they can move very easily from Republican to the Democratic column and back again.They are, in effect, the people who decide elections. And they are very distraught about both the horrendous carnage created by police officers in murdering African Americans, and … for the safety of their communities." …

Billy Stevens, an African American man who was helping paint the murals, agreed that the violence and destruction on display in the city give Trump more to point to in his reelection campaign.

"He tries to paint a picture of Democratic leaders being weak. Personally, I think it's divisive in times like these," Stevens said. At the same time, Stevens said Kenosha is desperate for order. "Now we're sending in more troops for a large show of force immediately. I do think it's needed right now." ..

Soglin said he's concerned some Democrats aren't paying close enough attention to the business owners and residents in communities coming under attack who want protection. The situation is likely having the biggest effect on swing voters, he said.

John "Sly" Sylvester, a longtime Democrat and radio personality who has been active in the labor movement, said he feared Democrats have a "blind spot" to rioters and looters.

Meanwhile, Joe Biden's lead in Minnesota—whose governor has dispatched the National Guard to quell continuing protest-related violence in Minneapolis—continues to shrink. He was up more than 10 points on July 1, but his lead is now just five points, according to the latest polls.

This is not to say that Biden's campaign is imperiled: He's still clearly ahead. Nor is it the case that Biden is the avatar of violent protests and Trump the avatar of a return to normalcy. Biden has condemned needless violence and failed to fall in line with the more militant left wing of the Democratic Party. Meanwhile, the lawlessness has actually occurred on Trump's watch, and the president has done very little to effectively counter it: Trump's main contributions thus far have been to sweep peaceful protesters from Lafayette Park in Washington D.C. so that he could pose for a photo; deploy federal law enforcement officers to Portland, where the unrest only worsened; and tweet the words "LAW AND ORDER."

But there's plenty of reason to think that Shor's concerns, and Wasow's research, have even more relevance today than they did at the start of the summer. It would be wise for progressives to consider the well-supported idea that what's happening in Kenosha and Minneapolis—and Portland, and even Washington, D.C.—is a net negative for the causes they support.

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  2. Democrats (and their media handlers) now care about the violence because focus group data came back showing it wasn’t going over well.

    1. And Reason falls right in line

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    2. Democrats haven’t been ignoring it, they’ve been actively encouraging it because they thought it was politically advantageous. Now they’re starting to oppose it because they realize it is instead hurting them. Harming America they wouldn’t give a thimble of warm spit about, costing them votes is what they care about.

  3. A related piece in Politico surveyed residents of Kenosha—where peaceful protests but also violence,

    It’s true. In one video, I saw a guy standing in the background with his hands in his pockets.

  4. A pre-Kenosha poll shows support for Black Lives Matter plummeting among white voters in Wisconsin.

    I’m sure all the arson has totally changed their minds.

  5. On Twitter, the progressive activist Ari Trujillo Wesler accused him of using his “anxiety and ‘intellect’ as a vehicle for anti-blackness.”

    Keep doing that… keep doing that! Pleeease keep doing that.

    1. Someone needs to go back in time and tell Nelson Mandela and MLK, Jr that denouncing violence is anti-black. Preferably one of these dumb progressives.

      1. Or tell them that peaceful protest is strategically inferior to violence.

        Why, if it wasn’t for MLK and peaceful protest in South Africa, segregation in the South and apartheid would already be illegal!

      2. These “anti-racists” really are shockingly racist. Do they even know any normal, non-commie black people?

        1. Probably not. A good portion of the demonstrators, and arguably at least half of the rioters are white, hypocritical, dimwitted, spoiled brat leftists.

      3. Mandela didn’t denounce violence.
        That was about the only thing about him that I respected — he was offered release in exchange for simply saying that he wouldn’t commit any more violent acts, but he refused to lie.

        1. He stayed locked up because he had an unyielding desire to further his image. As a prisoner, he could appear as a living martyr. As a rebel, he’s common trash.

          1. Yeah, I’m not going to lionize Marxists.

    2. “Nah,
      I’m not going to call for peace.
      We’ve tried peace.
      For years.

      Y’all don’t understand that language.

      We are calling for a complete
      dismantling of American policing.

      It’s NOT broken.
      It was built to work this way.

      And mayhem is the consequence.
      You earned it.”

      Shaun King, August 24, 2020

      1. And we need to listen to him, because he’s pretty sure he’s at least a little bit black.

        #AmplifyBlackVoices

      2. Truly inspiring words from Talcum X.

      3. “We are calling for a complete dismantling of American policing.”

        Yet the first thing these little Fascists do when they are on the losing side is beg the cops to save them.

      4. Shaun King is a miserable and stupid pissant.

    3. Well, the Smithsonian told us that logic and objective reason are white constructs, and therefore unjust.

      1. #Anti-Racism

      2. Well I plan to keep using them. They have gotten me pretty far in my career and day-to-day life.

        But seriously, how do regressives think it’s going to help anybody to alienate them from a mindset that’s essential for understanding how the world works? My guess is that they don’t, and putting out such bullshit is just the only way they can keep their heads from exploding from the internal contradictions of their worldview.

  6. “Meanwhile, the lawlessness has actually occurred on Trump’s watch, and the president has done very little to effectively counter it”
    Huh? Trump sent Federal cops to Portland and Reason told me they were causing the riots. Trump has offered to send in The National Guard to any state that asks for it. Reason is all about federalism until they aren’t.

    1. There you go, letting facts get in the way of a good story, again.

      1. Before, I found Reason hilarious for its jejune undergrad writing.

        Now it’s beyond the pale. From exactly where are they finding these muppets, so I can avoid hiring them?

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    2. It doesn’t even make sense. 1. It’s not Trump’s job to police the streets of AnyTown, USA. That’s the job of the mayors and governors. And we know how the Ted Wheelers and Jenny Durkans have responded. And B. Trump has repeatedly offered federal help in how many cases? And each one has been rebuked by said mayors and governors.

      Man, the speed at which the pivot is taking place is alarming. We went from “completely peaceful” to “Trump has allowed this savage violence to get out of control” in record time.

      1. I don’t know if Robby actually believes that, but I’ve no doubt that the swing voters and fence-sitters know who let Burn Loot Mayhem run wild, and their party affiliation. The media was too stupid to even misframe the lines of authority — “Governor refuses to call out National Guard” — “Mayor tells police to stand down”. Heck, even the lefties know who let the BLM continue.

        A damn stupid statement.

        1. The only time CNN discussed violence at protests was when they discussed it being a source of polls slipping! Cuomo and Lemon coming to an epiphany, it did seem to take both of their huge intellects to form this level of awareness. Trump hasn’t done anything, Trump’s trying to control everything, Trump isn’t doing anything. Back and forth.

      2. Has anyone at Reason actually criticized any of these mayors or governors?

    3. Of course it has because that’s the Democratic plan.

  7. “On Wednesday, polling by Marquette Law School showed that support for Black Lives Matter has plummeted among white Wisconsinites.”

    OMG, that poll is so racist.

  8. The left not listening to the Science again. SHOCKING. More proof the left is about politics and not science

    1. If it doesn’t confirm our preexisting biases, then it’s junk science.

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    2. They cemented that fact when they said that if you went to the store or church, you were literally killing grandma, but going to BLM protests/riots meant you weren’t at risk for exposure to COVID. Super-sciency from the “party of science.”

  9. The fires and other property damage are the fault of right-wing infiltrators, not the Antifa and BLM activists.

    #LibertariansForAntifa

    1. If your first peaceful protest turns violent, you can blame the agitators. When your 81st peaceful protest turns violent, you own it.

      1. I was arguing this point with a Reddit idiot that claimed 99.9% of protesters are peaceful. So then 999 people are allowing 1 person to ruin their party? Yeah that’s BS! Or you’re saying 999 self proclaimed peace activists are unwilling to prevent 1 person from destroying innocent peoples property?

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        2. May I make the argument that even the “peaceful” protesters not peace. If a few turns to violence and destruction, the rest of the “peaceful” ones will cheer and encourage the violent. To them, it’s front row to a live reality show.

    2. #LibertariansForAntifa = Leftist.

  10. Meanwhile, the lawlessness has actually occurred on Trump’s watch, and the president has done very little to effectively counter it:

    Wait, what?

    1. It’s Soave.

      As Soave’s posts grow longer, the probability of him shitting the bed approaches 1.

      1. Nice. Call it the fruit sushi principle.

      2. Soave’s Law strikes again!

        Just like whenever someone mentions Hitler they’ve “Godwin’d” the thread, I propose that whenever someone publicly shits the bed like this we refer to it as being “Soave’d”.

      3. Applause

    2. I suppose it’s technically a true statement since no one has done much to effectively counter it.

      1. Agreed. My dog has done very little to counter… well, actually that’s not true. My dog doesn’t like strangers and barks at anyone that walks by the front window. So she’s doing her part. Bad example. Carry on.

        1. Yeah but if she steps out on the front porch with an assault rifle in her paws you’re gonna have a problem.

          1. I’d like a dog like that. Would feed and pamper it but deny owning it.

            1. “Breed of Peace…”

      2. I suppose it’s technically a true statement since no one has done much to effectively counter it.

        That not really true though is it? The riots are confined to a handful of cities uniformly controlled by far left politicians. No one else is having any trouble.

        It seems when antifa doesn’t have the legal and physical protections provided by allied local government the masses won’t engage in violence or help camouflage the few who are willing. The result is … no violence.

        Recognize the full picture.

        1. See: Detroit
          Even LA

        2. It seems when antifa doesn’t have the legal and physical protections provided by allied local government the masses won’t engage in violence or help camouflage the few who are willing. The result is … no violence.

          True enough. I can’t remember news of one riot or instance of wanton destructioin in the entire state of SOuth Dakota…… whose governor made it clear none would be tolerated. Furhter, she refused to order any lockdown or other “protocols: relating to the other “virus” , the Chinese Flu. Yet their case and death numbers are amongst the lowest in the nation, and their damage quotient is all but non-existant.

          1. I think Kristi Noem is going to be a big up-and-comer in the GOP. The more I hear from her, the more I like.

            1. Side note, I was very disappointed Trump didn’t dump Pence and add either Noem or Nikki Haley. Trump needs Pence for the religious zealot right, but having one of these two bright women would have gone a long way. MHO

    3. Reason style guide:

      Trump says “law and order”: FASCISM!

      Trump doesn’t send federal troops when declined by local authorities: Where’s law and order, huh?

      The NYT sets the agenda, Reason just regurgitates it

    4. When Trump was actively trying to counter the violence, the editorial stance here was that was a unconscionable violation of federalism.

      Goldfish may have better memories than Reason’s staff.

      1. They also freaked out when he wanted to force localities…to end shutdowns.

    5. I may have brain-stroked out recently, but I could’ve sworn I’ve read news stories about “Trump’s stormtroopers” in Portland.

      1. Don’t forget jack-booted thugs.

        1. Quite a few commenters jumped on that train too

  11. So… on the opinion oscillation wave, “Target’s Inventory” suddenly matters. K. Got it.

    1. Turns out most of the population actually cares more about the property than the lives of the protestors smashing stores up.

      1. I not sure what your point is. But those smashing up stores are engaged in evil unlawful activity. As such they carry a large responsibility for their own injury when police or store owners attempt to stop the damage. When a mayor rules out the use of tear gas or other generally non lethal tools to suppress riots and other unlawful activity, they make non enforcement of the law likely and at the same time the use of lethal force.

  12. Meanwhile, the lawlessness has actually occurred on Trump’s watch, and the president has done very little to effectively counter it

    Found the MSM’s newest talking point.

    1. Meanwhile, the lawlessness has actually occurred on Trump’s watch, and the president has done very little to effectively counter it

      Well, he did send in the National Guard. Besides, between the Republican National Convention and the hurricane, he’s been kinda distracted. I mean, Jesus Christ, the lawlessness only started less than 48 hours ago, how fucking fast do you expect him to be able to respond? It’s not like he could have sent in the goon squad to trample all over the rights of those peaceable protestors prior to the lawlessness suddenly breaking out, could he?

  13. >>Meanwhile, the lawlessness has actually occurred on Trump’s watch, and the president has done very little to effectively counter it:

    first, you started two sentences with “Meanwhile” within sight of each other it’s lazy. second, for fuck’s sake try a little honesty. you get paid to write don’t abuse it.

    1. As you say, he is paid to write.
      Having it make sense, or be truthful is outside the contract.

  14. “There’s no doubt it’s playing into Trump’s hands,” said Paul Soglin

    Trump has not one thing to do with what is going on in Minneapolis, Seattle, Portland, Kenosha ad nauseum

    He tries to paint a picture of Democratic leaders being weak. Personally, I think it’s divisive in times like these,” [Bill ]Stevens said

    I am pretty sure the Democrat leaders need absolutely no help coming across as weak.

    1. Or divisive.

  15. The most interesting thing about this isn’t that people on the left will shun facts that undermine their preferred worldview. The most interesting thing about this is that the worldview on the left prefers violence.

    Robby’s convoluted and confusing perspectives aside, what’s more interesting–that the left is reluctant to admit facts that undermine their worldview or that the left is supportive of looting, arson, and violence?

    Talk about burying the lead.

    There’s an election going on, and the left is not only openly denigrating others for preferring non-violent protest as a strategy–but also embracing looting, arson, and violence as a means to social change?!

    Their campaign is pro-violence, and Robby is concerned with how they got there? They’re pro-violence. That’s the lead here.

    1. >>embracing looting, arson, and violence as a means to social change?!

      also not hooping. worlds might end.

    2. I don’t even know if the worry is so much “how we got here”, but the fact that they’re realizing what everyone with a few brain cells already knew: This shit wasn’t going to go over well in Peoria– let alone the suburbs of Big City USA, and every time a molotov cocktail got thrown and a Democratic Retard called it a “block party atmosphere” or “the summer of love”– it turned into a Trump rally.

      Every time I think that RazorFist can be hyperbolic, his calculating political analysis is spot-the-fuck-on.

      1. How delusional do they need to be to imagine that arson, looting, and violence will make them popular–or that they can sell that to suburban America?!

        1. They have even less idea of the response they engender than do the people who pay YouTube to interrupt music and comedy videos with 15-second ads.

  16. Despite the best efforts of Reason and their ideological brethren in the MSM telling us that riots are actually mostly peaceful protests, the great unwashed somehow found out that cities are in flames. Robby makes it clear that Biden himself is completely blameless but, darn it all, some people might vote for Trump instead. The horror. I don’t see how Trump loses on this one. If he sends in the troops and restores order he gets the credit. If the blue cities refuse and let these thugs run amuck they get the credit. Of course October will bring an avalanche of surprises from the Democrats so maybe they can distract us all with some other shit.

    1. “Despite the best efforts of Reason and their ideological brethren in the MSM telling us that riots are actually mostly peaceful protests, the great unwashed somehow found out that cities are in flames.”

      What this story really means is that the left may half-heartedly apologize for the violence in public, but they’re actually so supportive of violence, in reality, that they’ll effectively cancel somebody for suggesting that violence is strategically inferior to peaceful protest.

      1. Think of all those celebrities who pledged money to bail out rioters. Are we going to pretend like these aren’t the “vote Blue no matter who” riots? None of this has to do with police reform anymore

        1. The entire thing has been about scaring the shit out of people. This whole time, the message has been, “Capitulate, or this will get worse.” The democrats went all in on it because they thought they’d be able to use it to get themselves elected, and then control it afterward (even though any sane person knows, regardless of whether democrats win elections, this shit will continue and get worse. ESPECIALLY if democrats get elected).

          The democrats didn’t start distancing themselves from it until someone showed them the data on gun sales in the past several months.

          1. And a 17 year old kid popped a couple of their street soldiers, clearly in self defense, and showed suburban America how it’s done

            1. he will be widely emulated if the Panty Faux and the Bee Ell Emm don’t wake up and smell the coiffee.

    2. Of course October will bring an avalanche of surprises from the Democrats so maybe they can distract us all with some other shit.

      The RNC will lobby the UN to send in Peacekeepers to arbitrate peace terms between the Racist States of America and Wokestan.

  17. Biden makes one comment about Democratic run cities and you play the game “see, he’s distancing himself from the far Left”. You really need to get out of DC once in a while.

    People have eyes. These are white trust fund trash babies.

    1. Not one word during the DNC.

      1. This might not be true.

        Since nobody actually WATCHED the DNC, there could have been an hour on the subject that we just haven’t heard about.

  18. It’s 50/50 in my mind whether Biden or Trump will win. Trump is doing everything he can to lose, but at the same time the Democrats seem determined to flip off the huge middle of America that actually decides elections.

    I think it will come down to which campaign figures out first that the Electoral College exists. Hillary lost in 2016 because she spent all of her time campaigning in Deep Blue states, and ignoring what she called the “basket of deplorables”. She still barely managed to eek out the popular vote, but she forgot all about the Electoral College.

    That means that Biden needs to get votes from people other than die hard Democrats, and Trump needs to get votes from people other than die hard Trump voters. They need to get the middle in purple states to vote for them.

    1. In a world where the DNC is run by reserved, calculating types, Trump can’t win. But the DNC is staffed by ideologues who are too stupid to read between the lines. They’re determined to lose, so they can cry about victimhood for another 4 years.

      The riots and the violence is justified if Orange Hitler is still in office.

      1. Trump has done nothing more if not exposed the stunning incompetence of our “betters”

    2. I appreciate your statement about die hard democrats and die hard Trump voters (instead of die hard Republicans).

  19. I’ve been bitching for weeks about people comparing these riots to MLK and the 60s civil rights demonstrations which were non violent. As the research confirms that strategy ultimately won the day. The “protests” in Kenosha have more in common with an Irish soccer riot than they do a 1A petition to redress grievances.

    1. It’s about as disrespectful to MLK and original civil rights heroes as possible

  20. “Nah,
    I’m not going to call for peace.
    We’ve tried peace.
    For years.

    Y’all don’t understand that language.

    We are calling for a complete
    dismantling of American policing.

    It’s NOT broken.
    It was built to work this way.

    And mayhem is the consequence.
    You earned it.”

    Shaun King, August 24, 2020

    1. Shaun King
      Good old Talcum X

      “King was born and raised in Versailles, Kentucky.[4] Although his birth certificate names Jeffrey Wayne King as the father, King stated in 2015 that his mother told him his actual biological father is a light-skinned black man.”

      Lol, he has the same origin story as Rachel Dolezal.

      1. Lol, he has the same origin story as Rachel Dolezal Elizabeth Warren.

        FTFY

  21. There is an anecdote about the Japanese wargaming exercises in preparing for their Midway operation. In one scenario the officer playing the US side placed his carriers northeast of Midway at the start. He then devastated the IJN carrier force as the game played out. The umpire for the wargames declared that there was no way the US carriers could be in that position in real life .and invalidated the result.

    In early June ’42, Fletcher and Spruance commanded their task forces to Point Luck, a couple hundred miles northeast of Midway Atoll.

    Silencing the person who tells you what do not want to hear is a bad idea.

    1. But a foundation of “leadership”, from the days of tribal kings to modern corporate CEOs.

    2. Happens all the time. I call it “The Chernobyl Effect”

    3. History is littered with examples of authoritarians demanding that dogma takes precedence to objective reality – Deutsche Physik, Soviet famine, Olympus scandal etc. The results are always predictable.

  22. Not sure the left establishment can stop the rioting any more. After all, they are not occurring in cities run by Republicans, but by the left themselves.

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  24. “…Democratic leaders being weak….”

    It’s not weakness, it’s undiluted malice. Personal malice.

  25. “Personally, I think it’s divisive in times like these”

    You think WHAT is divisive in times like these?

    Impossible to make sense of.

  26. “… free speech culture”

    WHAT is “free speech culture?”

    What mishmash.

  27. blm and anfia are gang fads. They will go too far and quickly retreat when they are facing the real people in this country who won’t stand for their crap. The problem is with changing anything in this country is that all politicians are bought and paid for by special interests and therefore extremely corrupt. blm won’t fix anything unless you believe a parking lot of burned out cars, burning businesses and looting can fix everything. A never blm’er!

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  30. likely correct. even today i’ve made the mistake of engaging with people who can’t even consider the possibility that the 3 people who were shot in Kenosha were actually the aggressors despite all the video evidence suggesting Rittenhouse did everything he could to avoid actually shooting someone.

    these people don’t want to hear it, everyone who disagrees with them clearly is broken in their mind. guess they learned nothing from 2016.

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  32. There are a lot of us out there who think the police have been over-militarized and are too quick to use deadly force. It isn’t racism, it is how they have been trained. It is the military doctrine of stopping a threat at all costs. Fine on the battlefield, not so good on our streets. That said, weeks of rioting and looting only supports the backers of more proactive policing. If ever military tactics were justified, this is it. You have a right to protest, but not riot, loot and kill. People will defend what’s theirs if the police do not.

  33. “Meanwhile, the lawlessness has actually occurred on Trump’s watch, and the president has done very little to effectively counter it”
    This sounds like a sentiment from Joe Biden or Kamala Harris. The lawlessness may have occurred on Trump’s watch, but it’s up to the local authorities (Mayor, City Council, Governor) to handle it. If they can’t then they may request Federal assistance, which Trump has offered since the first molotov cocktail was thrown in Seattle. No way in hell can Trump be blamed for any of the rioting or violence. I thought Robbie had some brains. Has he started to drink the leftist Kool-Aid?

    1. Hmmm. Remember when Trump did try and counter it? There were countless articles about how horrific it was that “peaceful protesters” were getting arrested. Crazy conspiracy theories abounded about how the officers weren’t even police, but paramilitary mercenaries, and even Reason was “shocked, SHOCKED!” that border patrol officers had been called up. There have been open offers of federal law enforcements.

      However, after MONTHS of this, people are seeing that this is bad. Guns in the street. Thousands of buildings turned to rubble. Now they are thinking that the police arresting rioters doesn’t look so bad in retrospect and are wanting law and order. They also second guess the wild claims that it was all the police or white supremacists who were causing the majority of the violence and riots (while some might have, that’s not a rational take after so long).

  34. “The horrendous carnage created by police officers murdering African Americans…” This echoes the immense stupidity uttered by the top women’s tennis player, Naomi Osaka, yesterday who withdrew from a tournament to protest “the ongoing genocide of Blacks by police.” WTF? People are complete f’ing idiots, unable to look at facts or think rationally. This entire BLM insanity is mass hysteria.

  35. Biden condemns “needless violence,” not violence. What’s “needless”?

    1. Yeah, that’s his signal to the far left that SOME violence is ok…..just not the needless type.

  36. Under Trump’s watch?

    The BIDEN CAMPAIGN bailed out thousands of rioters, looters, and arsonists. They own this.

    Soros-funded prosecutors won’t prosecute. But they’ll prosecute anybody who defends themselves, or even uses the wrong pronoun.

  37. Can someone explain to me like I’m five years old how the Democrats thought rioting in the street and burning businesses would help them?
    Surely they are not so out of touch that they don’t realize that normal people are afraid this would come to their town.
    And even if they’re trying to provoke a response by the federal government, and get them to club and even shoot some of the arsonists, the average person would say “good”!

    I would say that most Americans, and probably by now the business owners and employees of Portland, Seattle and Kenosha, want the federal government come and clear the streets of these “peaceful protesters”

    Nixon won in a landslide because of street riots.
    I predict a landslide for Trump for the same reason.

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  39. I’m sorry, but there’s no two ways about it.
    The Biden campaign and Harris herself donated to a fund to pay bail for rioters. They actively praised the initial round of riots.

    When a 16 year old was defending his job, and shot three people, all armed, who were in the middle of actively attacking him, the Democrats charged him with first degree murder to try and prevent mob violence. However, when an unarmed Trump supporter was randomly shot in the street in Portland, his murderer was released until the uproar forced them to re-arrest him.

    When Trump deployed troops to protect the courthouse in Portland, there was extreme outrage from the left, but Reason’s own people on the ground showed a pretty horrendous situation before and after.

    You can’t fool everybody all the time, especially not this blatantly.

  40. The party of diversity picked a rich old white male who can’t keep his hands off young women and girls. For diversity they picked a black female leftist cop. The party spends considerable energy condemning rich old white male misogynists but not quite as much as they do pillorying cops. To top it off the rich old white male is losing his mind to dementia and is kept locked in his basement. That would be enough to lose any election on Earth (excluding places like Portland, Seattle, or San Fran) so to top things off they promise to raise taxes on everyone, let the criminals go free, support a group of Marxists who explicitly want to destroy your family, burn down your city, and end economic prosperity… and many people believe that they could just manage to turn the US into Venezuela. The people who are Dems who think that’s horrifying are secretly hoping that they will fail at about 90% of there extra 14 Trillion in annual spending, and that we will only manage to reduce the standard of living to European levels, not Cuban levels…

    Even though 50% of Dems say they support Socialism, few really do and they are still mad Bernie got shafted (twice). The difficult sell is to the independents. Those leaning left who don’t often call each other “Comrade” are a bit uncomfortable with having their taxes increased and their homes burned. And horror of horrors, Blacks, the robotic Den voters who tasted the fruits of real opportunity, who were treated like normal people rather than charity cases by Trump… are beginning to wonder if a party that promises them a few bucks a month if they don’t get married, don’t get a good job, and don’t graduate from high school, is really looking out after their best interests.

    Oddly, many people who have heard stuff like this above, have not believed it until they watched Dems recently smile as cities were burned and Trump supporters beaten and shot at. That was horrific, but not as traumatic as seeing the Dems pretend to be for law and order once the polls indicated it was popular… Those mainstream Americans did not approve of the comrades who were pretending to be fighting for black lives while burning down black neighborhoods…

    The only thing that is more bazar than this third-world-like Dam party plan, was the fact that any sane peraon living in America could believe that it was not a “Saturday Night Live” skit.

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