Racism

Firing Nakedly Racist Cops Is Just the First Step in Addressing Racially Biased Policing

A North Carolina officer was fired after saying, "We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking niggers."

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A North Carolina police department fired three officers this week for making some disturbingly racist comments.

James Gilmore, Jesse Moore, and Kevin Piner were dismissed from their positions in the Wilmington Police Department (WPD) after the comments were uncovered during a routine inspection of Piner's in-car camera this month. The comments were made in separate conversations with Gilmore and Moore.

In one of the recorded conversations, Piner muses about an impending civil war, declaring: "We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking niggers." At another point, Moore refers to a black woman he arrested as a "nigger" and calls a black judge a "fucking Negro magistrate." The conversations also degrade protesters, drug users, and even fellow officers: Piner, for example, calls a co-worker a "pussy" for discouraging Moore from breaking an uncooperative woman's car window.

"There are certain behaviors that one must have in order to be a police officer and these three officers have demonstrated that they do not possess it," Wilmington Police Chief Donny Williams wrote in a statement. "When I first learned of these conversations, I was shocked, saddened and disgusted. There is no place for this behavior in our agency or our city and it will not be tolerated." 

Firing these officers is more than justified, but it should just be a first step. The racism displayed by these officers is very upfront, and therefore easier for the casual observer to acknowledge. But a subtler racial bias maintains a broad presence in policing.

For several years, criminal justice reporter Radley Balko has compiled examples of the presence of racial bias in policing all across the country. This growing list contains more than 120 studies in which black Americans were disproportionately arrested or treated more harshly for similar crimes.

In 2017, for example, a

study of 4.5 million traffic stops by the 100 largest police departments in North Carolina found that blacks and Latinos were more likely to be searched than whites (5.4 percent, 4.1 percent and 3.1 percent, respectively), even though searches of white motorists were more likely than the others to turn up contraband (whites: 32 percent, blacks: 29 percent, Latinos: 19 percent).

Racial bias, conscious or unconscious, contributes to disparities in other parts of the criminal justice system, such as the death penalty and sentencing. And when the anti-police-brutality protests this summer were met with yet more brutality, Americans could see examples of unequal treatment occur in real time.

Williams is absolutely correct: Racism should have no place in policing. But firing explicit racists is only part of what must be done to address the practices that unfairly target minorities. Black Americans, for example, are much more likely to be arrested for drug possession than white Americans are, even though blacks are no more likely to be drug users; drug sentencing tends to be doled out disproportionately too. Maybe next we could do something about the drug war?

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  1. Shoulda just kept their mouths shut and shot some dogs.

    1. Every sacked bigot is an improvement of America. Let’s be thankful these rubes were as reckless and ignorant as they were bigoted and character-deprived.

      Let’s also examine how these three were hired, to avoid recurrence.

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      2. I agree that it would be better if you were fired from your piece rate job at Goodwill, bigot.

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  2. This growing list contains more than 120 studies in which black Americans were disproportionately arrested or treated more harshly for similar crimes.

    I’ve read the descriptions of the first 25 or so. Even if you for some reason ignore with huge difference in criminality, the studies don’t show big enough differences in police behavior for individuals to notice in their normal lives. The assumption seems to be that blacks are righteously outraged about 30% disparities in this and that, while cops are bastards for not ignoring the 1000% disparity in murder.

    1. But Cuckley Balko has collected OVER 100 ANECDOTES! Why do you hate science?

  3. Maybe next we could do something about the drug war?

    “Good idea! Hire *lots more* Black DEA agents!”

    1. Even better idea, sparked by the “nakedly racist cops” headline: a new Discovery Channel reality show called Naked And Racist. Have these cops keep their jobs, but they have to do it naked.

      1. There aren’t enough pixels in the world to make that work.
        https://www.getyarn.io/yarn-clip/60b777da-82e3-475c-9055-4123dddf9282

  4. 4.5 million traffic stops in North Carolina, population 10 million.

    That’s way too many. Even if half the population is black and gets disproportionately stopped because traffic cops are racist control freaks, that’s way too many.

      1. No. Good point.

  5. Can we stop it with the drug use surveys. It’s well-known that different races respond to “are you breaking the law” surveys differently. This isn’t some theoretical concern.

  6. Anyone wanna bet on how long it takes the police union to get the firings reversed?

    1. If you think you can keep a government job in 2020 while you’re on video, at work, talking about killing niggers you’re in a different universe.

    2. Not happening. NFW that gets reversed, the Chief was right to fire them.

      1. ” the Chief was right to fire them.”

        I agree that the firings were proper, but the unions have used grievance processes and arbitration to get firings reversed in other cases of egregious misconduct.

  7. It is apparently easier to terminate officers for bad words than for bad acts. That seems backwards. Glad these ones are gone, though.

    Honestly, I thought any racism in police departments would at least be somewhat subtle or coded. That they felt confident enough to run their mouths so blatantly suggests the culture is pretty ugly in Wilmington. Probably a lot of other places, too. This part of it is going to be an impossible fix.

    1. “I thought any racism in police departments would at least be somewhat subtle or coded.”

      Ha! About 10 years ago I had a long discussion with an EMT… Very nice, relatable guy! He worked with cops a LOT!

      He said that the “code word” for “blacks” among the cops was “democrats”! Honest Injun! (Sooo sorry for the ‘Injun’ slur, I take it back).

      1. My doctor says the same thing.

      2. So, that’s what Biden meant!

    2. It is apparently easier to terminate officers for bad words than for bad acts. That seems backwards. Glad these ones are gone, though.

      Almost unconstitutional even, undecided on how glad I am these ones are gone or not.

      If there’s not a civilian complaint or death between the three of them and the next officer over has a handful of kneeling deaths black, white, or other, under his belt I’d disagree. But I’m just another on one of those hard-to-pin-down, unprincipled, subjective, moral relativists with bad intentions.

      1. Not even close to unconstitutional. The police department is perfectly justified in prohibiting certain words.

        1. Oh hey look Jeff is playing terrible lawyer again

    3. The ratio of talking to acting (especially if you’re driving around on patrol with a partner) has gotta be at least 100 to 1.

    4. The union hasn’t had the chance to force the terminations into arbitration yet.

  8. Anyone got a link to the audio? Otherwise I refuse to believe they weren’t taken out of context. It’s not that I don’t believe that some cops are rayciss, it’s just that this story seems entirely too on the nose to be real. Like the mattress raep girl and Russian collusion, it’s too many squares on the progressive hero fantasy bingo card to not be made up.

    1. And yet the people who are the targets of this kind of ugliness have known that it is real for a long time.

      After kicking around the country a bunch of different places in my 20s I lived in The South for the first time. For the first year or so it struck me as exceedingly banal; instead of the magical mystical land of Faulkner and O’Connor and Jean Toomer it was the same strip malls and chain stores and people and entertainment as anywhere else, no better and no worse. Then one day I’m just walking from my car to a restaurant and this enormous guy barrels out of the door to a bar, and starts blustering abuse at some black folks happening by about knowing to get off the sidewalk for a white guy among other things.

      Like, if this guy had been in a movie I would have criticized the movie for making such an obviously cartoonish bad guy straight out of pre-civil rights era central casting. And yet there he was.

      To paraphrase Menken, you’ll never go broke betting on just how shitty people can be, even to the point of unbelievability. Just when you think there’s a level that is not believable, humanity comes through and never lets you down.

    2. What sort of context would make “we are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking niggers” ok?

      1. Juice, keep in mind that for a “Law-‘n-Ord-ur” Trumpista, ‘context’ matters when it comes to defending racist cops who say racists things, because… ‘context’.

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      2. Was it the punch line to a joke?

        Was he quoting someone else (upon whom he was throwing shade)?

        Was he reading hate mail?

  9. For several years, criminal justice reporter Radley Balko has compiled examples of the presence of racial bias in policing all across the country. This growing list contains more than 120 studies in which black Americans were disproportionately arrested or treated more harshly for similar crimes.

    Anecdotes collected by a journalist with an agenda are not “studies”. Peer-reviewed studies, on the other hand, are studies.

    While we’re controlling for population size, don’t forget to control for criminality as well. Black people comprise 13% of the US population, yet commit over 50% of the violent crime according to FBI statistics.

    Firing nakedly retarded pieces of shit would be a great first step in addressing race baiting faux journalism.

    1. Theoretically, you could construct a case series study out of anecdotes . . .

  10. Amazing 1st and 14th Amendment violation :

    “Lincoln County, Oregon, has exempted non-white people from a new order requiring that face coverings be worn in public — to prevent racial profiling.

    Health officials announced last week residents must wear face coverings in public settings where they may come within six feet of another individual who is not from the same household.

    But people of color do not have to follow the new rule if they have “heightened concerns about racial profiling and harassment” over wearing the masks, officials said.

    “No person shall intimidate or harass people who do not comply,” health officials said.

    With mask requirements becoming more common, activists have raised concerns that the directives could put non-white people in danger.

    1. Lincoln County is right in that Axis of Evil Corridor in Oregon between Portland and Eugene.

      Would be pretty hilarious if all 25 of the black people that live in Oregon just decided to conduct home invasions of these tards. It’s not like they’ll call the cops, that would be rayciss.

      1. You’re not far off on the number of AAs. 0.4% AA, per wiki citing the 2010 Census. About 45,000 or so people in the county, leads to around 180 African-Americans in Lincoln County. Everyone knows them by name, essentially, like everyone knew the 5-10 black kids in my 2,000 or so student high school when I went.

    2. Coming soon: “Legacy of Racism-Coronavirus disproportionately affects POC in Oregon”

  11. Black Americans, for example, are much more likely to be arrested for drug possession than white Americans are, even though blacks are no more likely to be drug users

    You’d almost think that cops spend more time in crime-ridden neighborhoods where black people spend the majority of their time murdering one another, and consequently generate more police encounters and more charges.

    1. The oxymoronic narrative is a couple of layers deep: Black and White people use drugs at exactly the same rate and, despite being bungling, cowardly, racist, and inept, police forces somehow manage to wade through the of filthy dark corners of violent white ghettos brimming with drug users into to the peaceful, pristine black suburbs where African Americans use drugs freely and openly.

    2. Last time I was at the gun store they told me a black guy picked out a gun he liked and said he would be back. He came back 30 minutes later with three other guys, reeking of blunts, and one of the other guys tried to buy that gun.

      That’s the kind of real world shit people who complain about these statistical disparities want to ignore.

      1. He didn’t have his girlfriend try to buy it for him? Quelle surprise.

        Rookie.

  12. —“A North Carolina officer was fired after saying, ‘We are just gonna go out and start slaughtering them fucking n****.'”—

    Ah, a Trumpista was fired for espousing the beliefs of his lord and savior Cheeto-man. No surprise there.

    1. Funny that Trump has been famous my entire life, but he didn’t become racist until 2016.

      1. He’s been racist since at least 1973. Have a read.

        1. The first 20 cites from this Wikipedia page are all since 2016.

          1. Be patient, he has autism.

  13. Piner, for example, calls a co-worker a “pussy” for discouraging Moore from breaking an uncooperative woman’s car window.

    Was he going to break it with a bullet?

  14. Firing these officers is more than justified, but it should just be a first step. The racism displayed by these officers is very upfront, and therefore easier for the casual observer to acknowledge. But a subtler racial bias maintains a broad presence in policing.

    Yeah, okay, sure. Let’s not wait for someone to display racist behavior or language. Let’s just assert that invisible racism is everywhere and needs to be rooted out. That surely won’t lead to people saying whites are inherently racist and that we need to abolish whiteness. While we’re at it, we should probably get around to burning the rest of the witches that the Salem trials missed.

  15. Firing an officer for saying the word Nigger is a short, two box flow chart Matrix. Did he say the word Nigger? yes? Jump to Fire officer.

    However, firing an officer for killing somebody is a considerably more complicated Affair. Did he use a bar choke hold? Was the choke hold appropriate for the length of time he used it? We’re procedures followed? Was there video of the event? What were the circumstances surrounding the arrest? What was the state of the victim when he died? Did he die while in the officers hands, or sometime later?

    You can quickly see how firing racist officers is far easier than it is to fire ones who kill people. It’s a bizarre State of Affairs, but it’s one we’re going to have to deal with.

    1. There is another path after the first box “Is the officer black?” “Yes” “Then he said ‘Nigga’, and was expressing black culture, do nothing.”

  16. Will this be enforced evenly, if they catch black officers calling people Cracker or Latins calling people Gringo will they be fired as well?

  17. If they had just done it instead of talking about it, they might still have their jobs.

  18. Just use the “Is it racist?” decision-action chart from the Babylon Bee.

    Does it exist? – It’s racist

    1. That’s not right though. The actual test is “Is the accuser higher in the victim hierarchy than the accused”.

  19. Firing Nakedly Racist Cops Is Just the First Step in Addressing Racially Biased Policing

    All we can really do is punish racist behavior when we encounter it. That’s already being done with a vengeance right now. You make no proposals for what else to do; the rest of the article is empty drivel.

    1. Yeah, we really needed to punish that statue of a George Washington.

      1. People like you are why libertarianism is having such a bad reputation; do you even try to understand what you’re responding to?

        1. Sarc not your strong suit.

  20. Firing Nakedly Racist Cops Is Just the First Step in Addressing Racially Biased Policing

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    But you know all about the surprise hiding in their Trojan Horse, right? It’ll be fine, we can bring it inside the city walls…because we don’t want to appear impolite but we know they’re trying to attack us so we’ll be ready!

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