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Dave Chappelle's '8:46' Expresses Righteous Rage Over George Floyd's Murder

The comedian expresses rage over police brutality while offering optimism for a better world.

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If timing is everything in comedy, Dave Chappelle is beyond any criticism.

His immensely powerful new video about the police killing of George Floyd and subsequent protests, "8:46," dropped this morning, less than a day after the release of the cringe-inducing and widely panned public service announcement "I Take Responsibility," filled social media streams with a procession of self-important celebrities insisting, in the words of actor Stanley Tucci, "I will no longer allow an unchecked moment. I will no longer allow hateful, hurtful words, jokes, stereotypes, no matter how big or small, to be uttered in my presence."

Near the beginning of "8:46″—the length of time that Minneapolis cop Derek Chauvin kept his knee on George Floyd's neck—Chappelle asks archly, "Do you want to see a celebrity right now? Do we give a fuck?" Praising the mostly peaceful protests against police brutality that have erupted across the country over the past few weeks, he says, "The streets talking for themselves. They don't need me right now. I kept my mouth shut and I'll still keep my mouth shut."

Well, not exactly. What follows from Chappelle is a blast of righteous black, male rage that at its most intense calls to mind passages from Frederick Douglass, Richard Wright, James Baldwin, and Dick Gregory while showcasing Chappelle's unparalleled ability to spin anger, observation, and humor into something raw and honest and deeply moving. "When I watched that tape" of George Floyd's death, he says,

I understood this man knew he was going to die. People watched it, people filmed it. And for some reason that I still don't understand, all these fucking police had their hands in their pockets. Who are you talking to? What are you signifying that you can kneel on man's neck for eight minutes and 46 seconds and feel like you wouldn't get the wrath of God?

The protests, he says, are not about Floyd per se, whose checkered personal life is being exhumed by critics to deflect attention from police misconduct. "It's not for a single cop. It's for all of it. Fucking all of it." In this, the Ohio-based comedian is speaking for a large majority of Americans. A new Washington Post poll finds that nearly 70 percent of Americans believe the death of George Floyd "represents a systemic problem with policing, while just 29 percent say it's an isolated incident."

At least since his 2017 Netflix specials about the #MeToo movement and race, last summer's controversial attack on cancel culture ("Sticks and Stones"), and his acceptance speech for the Mark Twain Prize for American Humor, Chappelle has emerged as the country's most-courageous truth-teller. Thoughtful comedians such as Lenny Bruce and Louis C.K. have long aspired to such a status but typically die or go soft when things get too real, ugly, or personally embarrassing.

Not so with Chappelle, who walked away from a $50 million deal 15 years ago and eventually reemerged more in-your-face and popular than ever. "8:46" isn't flawless, by any means. In his litany of black victims of police violence, he omits any mention of Breonna Taylor and he takes ultimately misplaced swipes at commentators such as Candace Owens and Laura Ingraham for defending police actions and focusing on black-on-black crime. However awful their comments may be, they are not the reasons that George Floyd died at the hands of police. He also gives too much credence to the claims of Chris Dorner, the disgraced former Los Angeles Police Department member who killed several cops before dying in a massive shootout.

But in the end, Chappelle's performance expresses anguish and anger in a way to which attention must be paid, especially his warning that the country is running out of time and chances to peacefully enact what is now a large and growing consensus for police reform.

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  1. “His immensely powerful”

    When did Nick become an old woman?

    1. When he was born.

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                  So Dear Abby, that’s just a poetic summary… You can read about the Love of my Life, Richard Decker, here:
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                  Farmers kept refusing to let him have sex with their animals. So he sought revenge, authorities say.
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      Sometimes I wonder if I’ve really broke not sarc at all. Or made any real difference, ya know.

  2. in the words of actor Stanley Tucci, “I will no longer allow an unchecked moment. I will no longer allow hateful, hurtful words, jokes, stereotypes, no matter how big or small, to be uttered in my presence.”

    Unless it’s in regards to a conservative, and he’s among the hive mind of Midtown Manhattan.

    1. And what exactly does actor Stanley Tucci intend to do if one of those words uttered in his presence? Force the guilty party to watch one of his movies?

  3. A lot of folks seem to have trouble holding two thought in their noggins at once: 1. Killing of George Floyd a monstrous crime
    2. HEATHER MAC DONALD – ARE THE POLICE RACIST?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQCQFH5wOJo

  4. Here’s another good black comedian: CHRIS ROCK ON HOW NOT TO GET ASS-KICKED BY POLICE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEvMc-K8XHY&t=15s

    1. As Ayn Rand said, there are some laws you can’t help but break. But I bet you knew that, you’re only looking for vents for your racism.

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      2. “… you’re looking for vents for your racism.”

        How powerful do you feel using the accusation of racism as a cudgel against your perceived enemies? The irony is you’re probably some white beta male cuck who feels empowered white knighting for “black and brown bodies.”. Fuck you, Chappelle and George Floyd.

        1. How powerful do you feel down playing it?

          1. So powerful that I’m going to burn down my own neighborhood, assault and kill my own neighbors and for good measure loot someone else’s property. Nothing says Black Lives Matter like breaking and entering into a Nike store to steal some fucking Jordan’s, if you must know Chad.

            1. I’ll tell you what’s old, you’re talking points. 1990s called, they want their talking points back. They realized they can get traction with them today.

              Do they still sell Jordan’s? Racist say whaaaaaaaaaaa!

              1. Lol, do they still sell Jordan’s? My SNKRS app all the way from the future of 2020 says they do. Say, how disgusted are you internally with the White evil capitalists that brain washed those poor black folks into looting material things instead of talking control of the means of production in the country in this glorious time of civil rights and cultural revolution? It’s weird. It’s almost like a lot of them are just using this as an excuse to be covetous capitalists.

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  5. Yes, Nick, conservatives are awful for pointing out that the vast majority of black homicide victims are not only not killed by cops, but they’re not even killed by white people. I’ll believe people who chant “Black Lives Matter” as soon as they start marching every time a black person is killed in Chicago, Baltimore, or some other city. It’s not black lives that matter to such people, it’s white perps.

    1. To be sure, black on black crime is high.

      But that does not sanctify state sanctioned murder.

      1. And that’s hyperbole. Police aren’t ordered to go out into the streets and execute any black person they see.

        Most police aren’t good people. If they were, they couldn’t do the job, as it requires enforcing bad laws as well as good. But they aren’t monsters, either.

        1. The point, is that “black on black crime” is a qualitatively different issue than state-sanctioned oppression. So even bringing up “black on black crime” when discussing police brutality is a giant red herring.

          1. I get it: only SOME black lives matter!

            In order to matter you gotta get whacked by a white cop. Now that is something to aspire to.

            Thanks for opening our eyes.

            1. One of the problems with the name Black Lives Matter is that it suggests many things to many people. It leaves the greater goal of the ending state-sanctioned racism. It’s easy to argue that BLM ignores black-on-black crime without ever thinking about racial gerrymandering or the underfunded education in inner cities. Kneeling on George Floyd’s neck only symbolizes the struggle African Americans endure in the way that a bloodied, gaunt Jesus hanging limply from a crucifix (but those abs!) symbolizes more than just a common criminal punished in a common style at the time.
              BLM is a symbol as well, but it leaves the movement open to strawman arguments.

              1. underfunded education in inner cities

                Typically inner city schools spend much more per student than rural White districts. The idea that education is underfunded in this nation, especially for Blacks, is ridiculous. We have been vastly increasing the amount spent on K-12 education throughout society for about 60 years, to very little effect.

                1. That’s because so much money is spent on rent-a-cops and metal detectors. A more serious cause of poor education in these areas is lack of parental involvement. How much time does a single mom with kids have to get involved in the kids schoolwork? Kids from two parent households do much better.

                  Mention that and get called a racist, of course. It’s the same in white, black or any other neighborhood. Men need to step up and help their women take care of their kids.

                  1. Prove that. I have no doubt those are minor expenses in the budget, plus increasing expenditures far precede the more recent enthusiasm for school security.

          2. By the way, I know you’re not really a janitor (not that there’s anything wrong with that).

          3. We know. And one is a massive problem, the other is a micro problem. But were only focused on the micro because douchenozzles like you are afraid to discuss the macro problem.

      2. That stock response is ridiculous. Nobody is saying it does. Literally nobody.

        What people are saying is that
        A) Stats don’t support the idea that there is an epidemic of Blacks getting killed by police.
        B) It’s not clear the Floyd incident had anything at all to do with racism, even at an individual level.
        C) This entire movement is based on the falsehoods of disproportionate police shootings of Blacks and of the existence of systemic racism in the US (not a thing) and thus deflects attention from the real problems.

        1. No, what matters is whether city, state, and Federal legislatures are going to pass laws to fix known policing and criminal justice issues. Dwelling on whether the messaging of Black Lives Matter is off or not is dwelling on unimportant side issues.

          1. Dwelling on whether the messaging of Black Lives Matter is off or not is dwelling on unimportant side issues.

            Might as well let all of the media and academia know this, because they’ve been “dwelling on unimportant side issues” related to the black community for 30 years now.

      3. No one is sanctifying that. As the cop in question is facing murder charges.

      4. And no one has or does.

        Cops aren’t hunting down black people. Excuse me if I put on my my rational hat and think this is hyperbole.

      5. To be sure, black on black crime is high.

        But that does not sanctify state sanctioned murder.

        That is correct. It does not.

        So let’s talk about state sanctioned murder.

        In 2019, there were 375 million state sanctioned interactions between police and civilians.

        Of those, 41 resulted in an unarmed person being killed by police.

        Of those, 9 were black people.

        Of those, 5 were clearly ruled justified (‘clearly’ means that no one protested)

        Of the remaining 4, 2 were ruled homicide and the officers were charged.

        The last 2 remain under investigation at this point.

        So 2 is the number of ‘murders’ of unarmed black people that are, so far, possibly sanctioned by the state.

        Explain how this is a problem.
        Explain how this reveals some systematic, institutional bias against black people harbored by law enforcement.

    2. That’s a nice cop out for not fixing policing and criminal justice problems in this country.

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        1. Yes, we’ve already gone over that.

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    3. Most people who get on one side or the other of the ‘Black Lives Matter’ vs ‘All Lives Matter’ thing are just talking past each other and not listening to the other side.

      One side is looking at the ‘Black Lives Matter’ mantra and hearing ‘ONLY Black Lives Matter’, instead of the intended ‘Black Lives Matter TOO.’

      On the other hand, you have people hearing the ‘All Lives Matter’ slogan as some sort of racist dogwhistle, when the vast majority of people who say that would agree that ‘All Lives Matter, Including Black Lives’.

      So you have people who could agree with each other in principle, being divided by sloganeering and general contempt for the ‘other side’. We need to get past this and have some honest discussion.

      1. Lol its not just an innocent of a disagreement over semantics…

        Many people who say “All Lives Matter” are saying that because while they might believe there are problems with policing, they don’t believe in systemic racism.

        Black Lives Matters, on the other hand, is based on the idea that it is systemic racism, and is threatened by the alternative political view, believing that its an exhibit of white privilege, and that the “All Lives Matter” slogan is a weaponization of that white privilege against them.

      2. One side is looking at the ‘Black Lives Matter’ mantra and hearing ‘ONLY Black Lives Matter’, instead of the intended ‘Black Lives Matter TOO.’

        That’s clearly not how it’s intended, if you listen to anyone pimping the message. It’s a naturally exclusionary statement that deliberately oversimplifies complex social issues in the service of black ethno-nationalism.

        1. It depends on who you are talking about. If you mean the people who are really in the BLM Movement, I agree with your characterization. But I think that the great majority of people who are using the phrase right now mean it in the “black lives matter too” sense.

    4. Yeah, and think of all the black people who die of heart disease and cancer! Why doesn’t Black Lives Matter have anything to say about that?

      Well, maybe because it’s a name for an organization that addresses a specific threat to black people, rather than a complete manifesto explaining their exact agenda. Are you able to understand that “pro-life” people can be for the death penalty, and “pro-choice” people can support gun control, because their names are just names, and don’t explain everything about them? This works like that.

      1. Police are not a ‘specific threat’ to black people.

        The raw facts bear that out.

        The emotional storytelling that is being used to create a different picture cannot change what’s actually going on.

        But the black useful idiots the leftist fellow travelers are using as a club might cause a serious backlash that WILL harm black people in general.

        1. Well, the police are a specific threat to black people at the very least insofar as they are a specific threat to everyone.

          1. Based on the numbers alone, it turns out that the police are only a specific threat to people who’ve committed crimes. And a LOT of them get away with it.

            1. You can start with the disproportionate number of black people stopped and searched, move on to the disproportionate number of black people incarcerated for drug offenses when studies find no difference in the likelihood that blacks or whites will use or sell drugs.

              And plenty of people are “specifically threatened” i.e. killed by police when they have committed no crimes. You can look at the cases of Bryonna Taylor, Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas, all killed in their own homes by home invaders with badges, and having not committed any crime.

              1. Note that Dennis Tuttle and Rhogena Nicholas were white, which illustrates that this isn’t a problem of cops wrongfully killing black people; it’s a problem of cops wrongfully killing people. (See also: John Geer, Sal Culosi, Bijan Gaisar, Justine Damond.)

  6. Candice Owen is cringey. But she is not wrong when she brings up black on black crime statistics. Her defense of the police is indicative of her knee jerk reactionary thinking. It is not, however, beyond the pale. Her comments may be out of touch, but they are not awful.

    She did not call for genocide or eugenics of another race. She did not call for systemic mandatory racial discrimination in hiring, housing, or other private transactions. She did not call for fourteen trillion dollars in race based government largesse. She did not advocate the destruction of our Republic. She did not advocate for a communist insurrection. No. Her comments weren’t awful.

    That said, Chappelle just may be the flawed hero we need. Even if he and Gillespie are wrong about Ms. Owens.

    1. Oh good heavens. The whole “black on black crime” thing is a big giant red herring, for the following reason:

      If a hoodlum murders another hoodlum (be they black, white, or purple), it is an illegal act that everybody recognizes as such.

      But, if a police officer murders a citizen (be they black, white or purple), the officer is doing so under color of law and, far too often, the officer’s actions are sanctioned and permitted by the system that is allegedly supposed to protect citizens.

      So Ms. Owens can bring up all the “black on black crime” statistics all she wants. It is all regrettable and horrible. But it is ultimately irrelevant to the current discussion.

      1. Yeah. Over half of the violent crime in this country is a red herring.

        1. FOR THE ISSUE AT HAND, yes it is. The issue is about how the structures and systems of the country permit and enable the *legal* murder of citizens (black, white and purple) by those who wield power, and what should be done about it. Particularly how it enables the murder of black citizens at a disproportionate rate above white citizens. You can talk all you want about how some black drug dealer killed another black drug dealer, but it doesn’t matter one whit to the current discussion.

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          2. An increase in violent crime (crimes where there are actually victims) causes the need for increased policing. Which in turn creates a higher chance for a situation to escalate and turn deadly.

          3. FOR THE ISSUE AT HAND, yes it is.

            It is?

            The people who share the race of the people committing over half of the violent crime in the US are upset that police pay too much attention to the people who live in among them that prey, first and foremost, on them and that’s not important?

            We shouldn’t address the fact that black people have taken to the streets to protest in favor of the people that kill, rob and rape them? In favor of the people that take their children and beat them into gang life?

            That 50+% that preys mostly on black people is why the police are there in the first place.

            If they were gone, black people would have no problems with the police.

        2. I’m not sure about red hearing, but it’s not that pertinent to the discussion of cops killing their fellow citizens.

          Of course the last time I checked they kill more white people in raw numbers so I’m not sure that fits the racism narrative.

          1. it’s not that pertinent to the discussion of cops killing their fellow citizens.

            Black Lives Matter “We are working for a world where Black lives are no longer systematically targeted for demise.”

            It’s disingenuous in the extreme to claim that relative body counts aren’t relevant to this accusation.

            1. Random violence is not the same as systematic oppression.
              You are at least smart enough to know that.

              It is about systemic racism *by the state*.

              Black on black crime is an important topic but not germane to the current discussion.

              1. “Random violence is not the same as systematic oppression.”

                So organized gangs fighting for control of turf is random violence, and not systematic oppression? Do tell!

                And not even consideration that maybe, just maybe, this violence itself invites police intervention in the first place?

                And that is the complaint, germane or not, that hyperfocusing on this particular problem in lieu of all others is suspicious, (and framing as specifically detrimental to blacks, as opposed to the poor, even more suspicious) as even if present policing policies were to continue indefinitely, simply reducing the murder of blacks would do far more to improve their well-being than another round of sensitivity training for cops.

                I believe that is Ms. Owens point.

                There is another article about the difficulties in building a coalition, to wit- framing an issue as simply a black issue or undiagnosed racism ensures it stays resigned as only racism, and failing to convince someone of that, you lose all support.

                Where as pointing to a man putting his knee on another’s neck and saying “this is wrong” is far more direct, and far more likely to have understanding, regardless of what the intention was.

                1. So organized gangs fighting for control of turf is random violence, and not systematic oppression? Do tell!

                  Not when it’s not BY THE STATE. Good heavens.

                  Do you really have to have this spelled out? Crime committed by citizens against citizens is qualitatively different than crime committed by agents of the state against citizens. The former is a crime like any other crime. The latter is frequently not even labeled as a crime because those with power have the ability to declare it “not a crime” (see: qualified immunity) even though it is just as wrong. The discussion here is about the state systematically oppressing people. Whatever you want to say about “black on black crime”, it is terrible and regrettable, but not relevant to this discussion.

                  1. Whites are killed MORE frequently than blacks when they encounter police. Why aren’t you decrying racism against honkies??

                    Racism is the red herring. Change QI, end the drug war, and make police individuality accountable for their actions and you’ve eliminated most of the problems.

                    1. The people controlling the narrative DO NOT WANT TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. All of the donations to BLM are going straight to Democrat’s election coffers. The professional class of grievance mongers DO NOT WANT TO SOLVE anything.

                      Democrats are literally beating us into submission and we can’t say a word because their policies, in their cities, did inevitably what they were going to do. But if you say something, YOU’RE A RACIST and then you get doxxed and canceled. I don’t see how this isn’t going to end in great violence.

                    2. Oh, bullshit. They do want to solve the problem.

                      They may be misguided in how they want to solve it, but it doesn’t even matter.

                      What matters is what our representatives do in the next few weeks. And what matters is that the conservatives here speak up about the Republican Party’s dragging their feet on reform, and the current President’s stirring up shit.

                    3. “you broke me.” you, admitting I broke you

                    4. JesseSpaz, the people controlling the narrative ARE the politicians and talking heads. It sure as shit isn’t the people on the street (the people I think actually want change)

                  2. Indeed, police killing citizens are far less accountable than gang killings. It’s a wonder why anyone bothers to call the police at all when they could call up the local chapter of MS-13 instead.

                    And since it is strictly a systemic racism issue, paltry reforms such as ending the drug war or ending no-knock search warrants will do nothing to reduce violence towards blacks from the police. Cops will just start executing blacks for jaywalking. You and I both know it.

                    And certainly no other dimension of police corruption, from the Marshall Project to the National Police Accountability Project, exist except for how many blacks are killed by the hands of police. I mean why bother having the FBI investigate George Floyd’s death? They are nothing but klansmen in disguise, probably sent to protect Chauvin since all cops stick together (thin blue line and all that).

                    In the end I guess you’re right and the only type of oppression that matters is done by the state (unless it is the left complaining about corporations again), and even attempting reform such a corrupt system is hopeless. As we have seen from some of the protests, when the police withdraw, oppression magically disappears, as the shopkeepers weigh the merits of systemic oppression vs. having the Klan do the same.

              2. There is no systemic oppression of Blacks in the US.

                There is, however, systemic oppression of Whites due to affirmative action, minority preferences in housing, hiring and government contracting.

              3. Ok. Let’s go with systemic oppression.

                If most of these incidences happen in mostly Democrat states with black democrat leaders and police chiefs (as I note down thread), what to do with the ‘systemic oppression’ claim? Even if we knock it down to 50% of incidences happen in Democrat bastions, it still brings into question this assertion, no?

                1. OK, we get it. You don’t like do-nothing Democrats. Then hold the other team accountable for doing what they can do to reform policing and the justice system.

                  Or, just keep playing Team Red/Team Blue politics, and do nothing.

                  1. OMFG YOU’RE TRYING TO SAVE FACE NOW AHAHAAHHAHAHAHA

                    “THEYRE TEARS OF CELEBRATION!!!”

                    AHAHAH YOU ACTUALLLY MANAGED TO GET MORE PATHETIC!!!

                    “I WON ONE TOO!!!”

                    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

                  2. Gotta love how you’re reaction to him Swiss cheesing your argument is to claim he only shit on you because of team politics.

                    This whole socking thing only works when your brain functions higher than the average retard Jeff.

                  3. Actually, it looks like it’s the Democratic governments of those cities who have been doing nothing.

            2. Not when we’re discussing agents of the state and their overzealous and overeager willingness to abuse and kill people.

              In the context of BLM worrying about the lives of their community “mattering”, then by all means.

              1. Exactly.
                It’s like people like Sidd Finch don’t even lift one finger to try to figure out what BLM actually means and stands for. They will instead just listen to whatever Sean Hannity tells them about what BLM “really wants”.

                1. “They will instead just listen to whatever Sean Hannity tells them about what BLM ‘really wants’.”
                  What a stupid comment.
                  How many whites care about what Hannity says about BLM? How often do you watch Fox News?
                  “It is about systemic racism *by the state*.”
                  But you have asserted that this isn’t about “racism.” Which is it?
                  “Black on black crime is an important topic but not germane to the current discussion.”
                  There is no “current discussion.” There is a current monologue.
                  For me, the issue is not “black-on-black crime,” but then, I’m not a Republican; I’m an American.
                  Tell me, who was Channon Christian? And don’t you dare say that she is “not germane to the current discussion.”
                  I’ve got hundreds more names that you don’t care about. I say that you are not germane to the current discussion.

                  1. So why do you think the story of Channon Christian is relevant to the current discussion?

                    1. “you broke me.” you, admitting that I broke you

                    2. No, you broke *me*. chemjeff is a different person.

                    3. I’ll use an analogy to try to explain this to you:

                      I broke loveconstitution1789. But, since JesseAz is a different person than loveconstitution1789, I have not broken him.

                      See how it works?

                    4. AHAHAAHAHHA AND NOW YOU’RE SO UPSET

                      YOURE DOUBLE POSTING IN ANGER

                      OMFG YOU’RE TRYING TO SAVE FACE NOW AHAHAAHHAHAHAHA

                      “THEYRE TEARS OF CELEBRATION!!!”

                      AHAHAH YOU ACTUALLLY MANAGED TO GET MORE PATHETIC!!!

                      “I WON ONE TOO!!!”

                      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

                    5. Oh, sorry. I get it now. You, chemjeff, are a different person than JesseSpaz.

                      I can be kinda slow, again because of the meds.

                2. “BLM actually means and stands for”

                  They’re race hustling grifters.

                  Any idiot can see that in ten seconds.

                  1. Oh look, it’s Tulpa.

                    1. “you broke me.” you, admitting that I broke you

                    2. Well, a guy who stole the handle from the person who really was “Tulpa”.

                      I used to think that was a rotten thing for a human being to do, but then it dawned on me one day that “Tulpa” is right. Discourse here needs to be torn down and drug down to the lowest level, and I now follow his religion.

                    3. AHAHAAHAHHA AND NOW YOU’RE SO UPSET

                      YOURE DOUBLE POSTING IN ANGER JEFF!!!

                      OMFG YOU’RE TRYING TO SAVE FACE NOW AHAHAAHHAHAHAHA

                      “THEYRE TEARS OF CELEBRATION!!!”

                      AHAHAH YOU ACTUALLLY MANAGED TO GET MORE PATHETIC!!!

                      “I WON ONE TOO!!!”

                      AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

              2. Not when we’re discussing

                Candace Owens wasn’t responding to you, genius.

                1. You don’t say.

                  And here I was thinking the we in my statement was referring to those of us posting here.

              3. But it’s not an agents of the state killing people issue. It is a racism issue.

                Get with the program.

                1. But it’s not an agents of the state killing people issue. It is a racism issue.

                  Black people must be the most racist in the nation, then.

            3. So, you don’t like Black Lives Matter. Don’t donate to them, march in BLM-organized protests. Don’t put their hashtags on your social media posts or put their lawn sign in front if their house.

              Now that that’s settled, are we going to fix know problems with policing and the criminal justice system, or are we going to take this moment to talk any reforms to death?

              1. “you broke me.” you, admitting that I broke you

                1. Cool, you broke me. And your my hero.

                  You for or against reforms of policing and the criminal justice system?

                  1. AHAHAAHAHHA AND NOW YOU’RE SO UPSET

                    YOURE DOUBLE POSTING IN ANGER

                    OMFG YOU’RE TRYING TO SAVE FACE NOW AHAHAAHHAHAHAHA

                    “THEYRE TEARS OF CELEBRATION!!!”

                    AHAHAH YOU ACTUALLLY MANAGED TO GET MORE PATHETIC!!!

                    “I WON ONE TOO!!!”

                    AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

              2. Focus on the micro and ignore the macro. Typical lefty thought process, and why municipalities run by lefties have so many problems.

                With the money lefty cities have spent on “diversity training”, community “education initiatives”, and “job training” places like Chicago and Baltimore should be bastions of minority success with low unemployment and lots of high skill minority workers…

        3. So we’re saying that not only do cops sometimes kill unarmed black people, but they are also failing at the part of their mission that involves keeping black people from killing each other? Why do you hate cops so much?

      2. “Reality is imaginary… and racist” – t. Jeff

        1. Black-on-black crime is not imaginary. It is just not germane to the current discussion. Do try to keep up.

          1. Keeping up with you, Jeff, is like joining the Special Olympics.

          2. Ok I’ll bite. You are around 4x more likely to be struck by lighting and killed than to be black and killed by a cop. A total of 9 black people were killed by police last year nationwide. Of those, only half were unarmed. This systemic racism narrative is fucking bullshit. Guess what race of police officers are more likely to kill blacks? Do you only hand wave facts that are inconvenient and argue in bad faith or are you that uninformed?

            1. I would like to see a citation for your statistics.

              1. I don’t know how to link to other sites on a post. The mean average of lightning strike kills in a year in the last thirty years is 43. That was from the National Weather Service on the weather.gov site. As for the number of police killings the statistic I cited was of unarmed blacks killed by police. The total of all blacks killed is around 120, my mistake, thanks for catching that Sidd. Those statistics come from the Washington Post.

                1. I’m thinking it’s more than 120 total.
                  See:
                  https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2020/06/05/policekillings/

                  There were 1,099 citizens *total* killed by police just last year alone.
                  So you’re gonna have to offer something other than that.

                  1. I corrected that in the post you just responded to but didn’t bother to read. 111 out of the 120 were armed. Regardless, 120 people killed by the police out of 47.8 million people is not systemic racism Jeff. Not even fucking close.

                    1. “The total of all blacks killed is around 120”

                      This is just not true.

                      Where are you getting your figures? Post the URL and let’s see.

                    2. AHAHAHAH NOW SID BROKE YOU TOO BITCH AHAHAHAH

                  2. Btw, there are annually about 56,000,000 million police encounters a year. Out of those 1099 people have been killed by police. That is about .0019625% chance of being killed. The chances you will die by a cops hands are astronomically low. There’s a higher chance you’ll be raped or murdered by another citizen. There is no systemic racism by the police period Jeff.

              2. Jeff just makes shit up constantly, but demands everyone else provide cites when they call out his bullshit.
                What a cock.

              3. Fuck you Jeff, we all know your fucking games by now.

            2. A total of 9 black UNARMED people were killed by police last year nationwide

              FTFY.

              That ‘unarmed’ bit is important.

              And the statistic comes from the WaPo.

      3. It really isn’t Pedo Jeffy. Just like being a child predator isn’t irrelevant to allowing a foreigner to enter the US. Something for which you have advocated here.

  7. “8:46” isn’t flawless, by any means. In his litany of black victims of police violence, he omits any mention of Breonna Taylor and he takes ultimately misplaced swipes at commentators such as Candace Owens and Laura Ingraham for defending police actions and focusing on black-on-black crime. However awful their comments may be, they are not the reasons that George Floyd died at the hands of police. He also gives too much credence to the claims of Chris Dorner, the disgraced former Los Angeles Police Department member who killed several cops before dying in a massive shootout.

    This list is amazing. “It’s not flawless. For example, here’s a tiny nitpick. Here’s some cosmo signalling. And last of all, he’s an insane black nationalist conspiracy theorist.”

    1. >Cosmo signaling
      I always took Nick for a Slate kind of guy. Or maybe Mother Jones.

      1. No, that’s his jacket. Strictly Rickard’s Red and MotherJones.
        Without it though, he’s in a sweatervest riding in Robby’s Vespa’s sidecar on their way to TGIFriday’s for Lime Margaritas with Suderman.

        1. Thanks for the clarification… and the visual. Now I need to clean up spat coffee.

  8. Am I the only one that thinks Chappelle is overrated? I enjoy his work but I don’t understand the deification. He’s my Star Wars of comedy (though I like him better than Star Wars).

    His “kicked her in the pussy” set-up in one of his last specials was brilliant, though.

    Much more a Stanhope and Day the Laughter Died era Dice fan myself.

    1. If he’s over rated, then Norm MacDonald in under rated. Norm is just a beast.

  9. Oh, here we go.
    When Chappelle speaks out against “cancel culture” then he’s a brave truth-telling hero.
    But when Chappelle speaks out in favor of BLM, then he’s an overrated has-been celebrity who should just shut up.

    1. …said nobody. Now take your strawmen and fuck off.

    2. Bitch more bitch.

      1. Did you see where sarcasmic didn’t know there’s a difference between civil and criminal cases?

        1. I had to point it out to him in a thread a day or two ago. No big deal, just let me know what you want to talk about, as the two are quite different in their aims, burdens of proof, punishments, and so on.

          To be fair, some of the writers here, and a large number of commenters, seem confused by the distinction too. I got tired of pointing out that qualified immunity has nothing to do with whether a law enforcement officer’s criminal actions are charged in criminal court or not.

        2. Lol you can’t be serious link that please

          1. Took me a few minutes to find because he’s sperging in every cop thread. Start here https://reason.com/2020/06/10/maybe-cops-should-be-pulling-back/#comment-8294485

    3. No, he’s talented either way. He just isn’t right when it comes to BLM. Just like you’re not right when you act as an advocate for foreign child rapists to all come to America.

  10. “It’s not for a single cop. It’s for all of it. Fucking all of it.”

    All of it. Except for most of it. Because now things are going to get worse. The only people who think it will get better are sheltered liberals who have no clue what it’s like for your livelihood to go up in flames.

  11. Dave is good for mentioning the Christopher Dorner shootings and manhunt. But he’s wrong about Trayvon Martin, presumably because he either doesn’t understand the crime scene or doesn’t understand the legally defensible doctrine of escalation of force.

    Martin was assaulting Zimmerman with deadly force. At that point, Zimmerman is justified, and if Dave thinks that he wouldn’t pull the trigger if he were holding the gun, he’s made of finer clay than most.

    1. Zimmerman was the aggressor. If some guy was stalking and accosting me on a dark street I would defend myself. I assume you would as well. Zimmerman was a piece of shit and only got off because the prosecutor tried to bite off more than he could chew.

      1. He didn’t accost Martin.

      2. “Zimmerman was the aggressor.”

        That’s real retarded, sir.

  12. Why is it not raw racism for Chappell, and every black comedian who ever took a stage, men who can speak the King’s English as well as anyone, to deliver their set in jivey street talk and pidgin English, replete with tedious “nigga” references to pander to their fan base? Black face is overwhelmingly more racist and offensive. Nobody, but nobody is more racist than the black community.

    1. “Nobody, but nobody is more racist than the black community.”

      I know right? One guy says something that you don’t like and suddenly everyone who looks like them are racist. It’s terrible!

      1. Don’t look now but you didn’t address the question.

        1. He never does. He’s a dishonest, sophist idiot who nonsensically regurgitated the same discredited arguments in between act as an advocate for the migration of pedophiles into the US.

    2. Listen to Chris Rock niggers v’s black people “who’s more racisist in America black people or white people. Black people, and do you know why? We hate black people too”

  13. whose checkered personal life is being exhumed by critics to deflect attention from police misconduct.

    Bull-fucking-shit. His checkered personal life is being exhumed because he is a piece of human detritus. That in no way excuses the police officers, who are also pieces of human detritus. Because they are awful does not elevate Floyd.

    Plenty of people are quite capable of simultaneously holding both opinions. We are disgusted at the hypocrisy of a group of zealots who only days ago were insisting it was tantamount to a crime against humanity to allow a restaurant to open because mankind itself was in Covid-19’s crosshairs, but now see fit to enable mass protests and memorials for a man who deserves neither because empty acts of virtue signaling are simply too important. Fuck each and every one of them.

    1. Great post. Succinct.

    2. Bull-fucking-shit. His checkered personal life is being exhumed because he is a piece of human detritus. That in no way excuses the police officers, who are also pieces of human detritus. Because they are awful does not elevate Floyd.

      Aw, c’mon. Next thing, you’re gonna be telling us that just because Horst Wessel was a low-life street thug is no reason we shouldn’t be celebrating him in song and demanding justice for his murder at the hands of Commies.

  14. If Floyd had died while victimizing others, as was his career to do, he would have deserved it.

    This time he was the victim.

    1. It was also set up by the Joooooossssss, right Rob?

      1. Don’t you mean the communists?

        The communist revolution of 1917 was led by Jewish Bolsheviks. Making Russia communist, Lenin also implemented the department and tactics of the KGB.

        Just call a spade a spade.

  15. Yes, the Minneapolis tragedy was a senseless murder. But was it racist, or just more police brutality? Here’s a powerful video pointing out that we only see national headlines when this brutality has a black victim. If they are white, no one seems to much care.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1toK3ODe9U&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR2ksWyBfzzqGG6vf64xOjgvqGNkBsvtfG5d2fqZH0KnvzkBAF6rX2kf6mw

  16. Whatever. Can’t get worked up over this shit. Bust the cop unions, drop qualified immunity, and thoroughly mandate bodycams by all means, but this whole syrupy George-Floyd worship and lectures against racism are beyond my tolerance. And I certainly won’t be paying to get spat at and ranted on by Dave Chappelle. Thanks for the heads-up so I don’t stumble on this act of his.

    1. Same reason why I left religion. The Left is full of pontificating self-righteous assholes.

    2. End drug prohibition.

  17. And to think the Enlightenment had dumb dumbs like Voltaire and Thomas Paine. We have the brilliant minds of Dave Chappelle and Whoopie Goldberg.

  18. Chappelle’s Sticks and Stones was brilliant. I’ve gone back and watched many of his Chappelle Shows, and those are fairly funny as well. I expect his 846 will be more like the shows, chuckles, not LOL.

    1. Watched. Emotional and powerful. Scattershot rant. Nothing useful

      1. I agree, this bit was disjointed but from the heart. I like Dave even though I often disagree with his conclusions, but he failed to connect the dots here IMHO.

  19. Blacks are 13% of the population, yet commit 50% of all homicides in this country. Make a joke out of that Dave.

    1. It’s infuriating to watch the non stop chanting of racism, while the real, actual numbers are disgustingly disturbing. Flip it on it’s head, how can 50% of all homicides be by one group and the rest of the groups not react to it? We’re not talking 5%, not 10% greater… we’re talking 13% of the population is responsible for 50% of the murder, that’s a fucking STAGGERING number.

      1. Its actually worse than that. Given that the majority of the murders are committed by black males in a limited age range (say 15 to 45), the ratio is more like 3% of the population responsible for 50% of all murders.

        Of course, the most accurate way to say this is that murderers are responsible for murders, so 0.004% of people are responsible for all murders, and half of that 0.004% is black.

        1. Piling on, I believe it’s even worse than what Earth Skeptic wrote. I’m fairly sure you guys are getting your stats on Homicide, and who commits it, from the FBI Uniform Crime Reports. Participation in that reporting system, which claims to accept reports from 18,000 different city, state, tribal, and other law enforcement agencies: is voluntary. And I thought I had remembered reading that, although some states have laws mandating their LE organizations submit data to the UCR, several large cities were opting out of sending reports.

          1. I’ve read that too. Stats can be tricky. We throw them around – as I’ve done but I try to use the stats generally accepted from at least a couple of sound sources and even then it can be problematic – a little too easily.

            We’re seeing it in real time with Covid-19 cases/deaths.

            1. There are lies, damn lies and statistics.

          2. It’s definitely worse than that if for no other reason than a huge number of cases aren’t cleared and the typical one is ‘black body found in ghetto, nobody knows nuthin.’

          3. Participation in that reporting system, which claims to accept reports from 18,000 different city, state, tribal, and other law enforcement agencies: is voluntary.

            Oh, that explains it then: Blacks don’t commit murders at a disproportionate rate; racist city, state, tribal, and other law enforcement agencies are failing to report all the murders that white people are committing. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

        2. “Of course, the most accurate way to say this is that murderers are responsible for murders, so 0.004% of people are responsible for all murders, and half of that 0.004% is black.”

          Right! Which means that the chance that a randomly selected black person has in an infinitesimally smaller chance of being a killer than a randomly selected white person, so any judgment of an individual based solely on their race is just dumb.

          If we were going to operate that way, we’d need to be an order of magnitude more scared of all males in general than blacks in general, since they’re much more likely to kill than females.

    2. In a post truth society, reality is hatred.

      Black lives would be much better off if they had remained in Africa.

      1. That’s only true if you ignore the murder rates in Africa. Oddly enough all of the cops there are also racist for killing black people

  20. This place has become dancing with racists.

    1. Less so if you would exit.

    2. Yes, you progtards are racists. If you kill yourself, there will be less.

      So just do it. Kill yourself.

      1. If you kill yourself, there will be less.

        You mean “fewer.” You count racists; you don’t weigh them or measure them.

        1. You do you, and I’ll do me, okay?

  21. “The protests, he says, are not about Floyd per se, whose checkered personal life is being exhumed by critics to deflect attention from police misconduct. “It’s not for a single cop. It’s for all of it. Fucking all of it.”

    FWIW, the Rodney King riots weren’t about Rodney King per se either.

    Hardly anyone had a cell phone back then, and those that there were couldn’t capture video. Among the African-Americans I worked with in the neighborhood, there seemed to be a sense that if only they could catch Daryl Gates’ police misconduct on video, then maybe people would start believing their complaints were real.

    When the police who beat Rodeny King were acquitted despite being recorded on video, it became painfully obvious that the problem wasn’t a lack of awareness. The problem was institutional–and Daryl Gates couldn’t be fired by the LA City Council. He was entirely unaccountable, and he kept his police that way. Gates eventually succumbed to pressure to resign–but most of that was because of his horrifying lack of response to the initial riots. Once people saw that the police were doing nothing to stop the looting and arson, opportunists came out of the woodwork–and that had nothing to do with Rodney King.

    I maintain that the peaceful protests we’ve seen in recent weeks were no doubt about George Floyd and the accountability of the police, but the looting and arson wasn’t really about that at all. If we’re looking for the biggest contributing factor to the looting and arson, there were 40 million Americans who lost their jobs over the preceding weeks, the riots happened in the cities with the harshest and longest running lock-down orders, and under those circumstances, people may be looking for an excuse NOT to riot.

    1. Yeh, toppling the statue of Mattias Baldwin has totes to do with Floyd…Ssssure.

      Nihilism. This is what we’re seeing.

      1. If I were African-American, I might be offended by some of the signaling I’m seeing offered up–as if it were real reform.

        Taking down statues and banning the Confederate flag from NASCAR races isn’t the solution to the police being unaccountable.

        It’s just signaling. Same thing they’ve been doing since the 1960s–let’s take down the symbols of racism, and maybe they’ll let us keep the police unaccountable and the drug war raging.

        New York still hasn’t legalized cannabis, and it isn’t because the Republicans control the legislature in Albany or the governor’s mansion. It’s because law enforcement and their unions control the legislature in Albany and the governor’s mansion. Take down all the symbols you want, send all the signals you like, until the law enforcement unions drive the Democratic party machine in New York are no longer in control, nothing will change.

  22. “The protests, he says, are not about Floyd per se, whose checkered personal life is being exhumed by critics to deflect attention from police misconduct. “It’s not for a single cop. It’s for all of it. Fucking all of it.” In this, the Ohio-based comedian is speaking for a large majority of Americans. A new Washington Post poll finds that nearly 70 percent of Americans believe the death of George Floyd “represents a systemic problem with policing, while just 29 percent say it’s an isolated incident.”

    375 million interaction with police. 44 million blacks. Nine killed by police in 2019. 19 were white.

    The data simply doesn’t back this up.

    Fuck off. All of you.

    1. More food for thought.

      -75% of blacks born out of wedlock. If people think this isn’t the elephant in the room that doesn’t impact the community and how black youths interact with police, they’re delusional. Everything starts at home. It’s cultural and it can be fixed with TRUE leadership.
      -Chicago. Enough said.
      -Many of these incidences happen in Democrat bastions run by black Democrats with black police chiefs.

      Dave better start to shift some minutes from 8:46 into that because you ain’t gonna be able to blame ‘wypippo’ forever. You can’t stew on the past because you won’t have a future. If they don’t address the problem in their community, this cycle will continue and no one will ever progress.

      Start listening to great black conservatives. They’re out there and they’re talking sense.

      I think focusing on Floyd doesn’t detract because he played his own part in his tragic fate. The event earned immediate universal condemnation. I don’t know of anyone who thought it wasn’t an awful thing.

      I don’t think he’s a hill you want to die on.

      1. The 75% out of wedlock births amongst blacks was ‘only’ 25% back in 1960. Daniel Patrick Moynihan famously warned that this was a festering problem and that we would see consequences. We have.

        Imagine yourself a young unmarried black woman with a few kids. What kind of future could you expect, particularly with minimal education?

        The only solution I can imagine is one where the biological father is identified at birth and made to support the kids. Not libertarian at all.

        The war on poverty made this situation worse as have the other welfare programs that give the woman incentives to kick the father(s) out. At one time social and religious pressures made this socially unacceptable; Prog culture undermined that.

        1. That’s how I understand it.

          The black family (and increasingly white) has been decimated.

        2. The velvet chains of ignorance become thorny when recognized for what they are.

          What’s more convenient and comfortable than being irresponsible and claiming ignorance or falsely accusing others when the consequences of your irresponsibility are recognized?

          This is perhaps the biggest difference between liberals and conservatives.

        3. I think you may be forgetting, or ignoring, another factor. In that same time frame, we have been fighting our dumb “War on Drugs.” While blacks and whites use and sell drugs at roughly similar rates, blacks are disproportionately arrested and incarcerated for drug offenses. That not only removes black men from families, but it puts them in the crime college (prison) pipeline. It depresses black family income, and perpetuates the us vs. them mindset toward the police.

  23. Well, not exactly. What follows from Chappelle is a blast of righteous black, male rage

    After you remove clear self-defense cases, police killings of blacks are about as rare as death by lightning,, and blacks are less likely to be killed in interactions with the police than whites. So what exactly is “righteous” about his anger? On top of that, Chapelle is worth $50 million; the idea that he has anything to complain about is ludicrous.

    that at its most intense calls to mind passages from Frederick Douglass

    Frederick Douglass and others faced actual, systemic discrimination and advocated equality under the law and a liberal society. Chapelle is a wealthy, self-righteous prick who apparently can’t stop categorizing people by race and supports progressivism. The two are about as diametrically opposed as they can be.

    But I suppose to Nick Gillespie, all “angry black males” are the same.

    1. When you think of it, we’re ALL just basking in the after glow of a once mighty and enlightened Western civilization.

      It’s pretty amazing to watch them rail like this when they’re far better off than the average person of any race.

      Do these guys listen to Sowell, Elders, Tatum, Williams etc?

      And yes, I do think Douglas would be thoroughly disgusted with what is going on.

      African immigrants (who do very well here) from Africa don’t even like this mentality.

      1. Real Africans are amazed and ashamed of their American cousins.

  24. But in the end, Chappelle’s performance expresses anguish and anger in a way to which attention must be paid, especially his warning that the country is running out of time and chances to peacefully enact what is now a large and growing consensus for police reform.

    So Reason is arguing that the jackboot of the federal government should come down on local communities and override the choices of voters. That’s not libertarian, it’s progressive authoritarianism. Obama tried that already and his “consent decrees” caused a rise of crime in minority populations.

    The three things that the federal government should do are eliminate the problems it itself created: the legal doctrine of QI should be abolished, the federal government should stop providing any funding or equipment to local police for any reason, and the power of the FBI should be sharply limited. But that’s not what BLM and Chapelle are advocating.

    1. BLM is a commie hate group probably connected to the DNC in some form or another.

      There. I said it.

        1. “I believe that in philanthropy one should do the right thing, whether or not it succeeds.” —George Soros

          If only he knew what was right. Recta sapere was our school motto: To know what is right.

      1. BLM has utilized Maoist tactics in Minneapolis. Did you see the struggle session against the mayor?

    2. Just ending drug prohibition would solve 95% of the problem.

      1. Retards should be stoned.

    3. Wow, your recap of what Gillespie wrote bore no relationship to what he wrote.

      1. I quoted Gillespie. It’s right there.

    4. So, you don’t like BLM. We get that.

      Not sure Chapelle even mentioned BLM in his monologue. The quote from Gillespie doesn’t.

      1. AHAHAAHAHHA AND NOW YOU’RE SO UPSET

        YOURE DOUBLE POSTING IN ANGER JEFF

        OMFG YOU’RE TRYING TO SAVE FACE NOW AHAHAAHHAHAHAHA

        “THEYRE TEARS OF CELEBRATION!!!”

        AHAHAH YOU ACTUALLLY MANAGED TO GET MORE PATHETIC!!!

        “I WON ONE TOO!!!”

        AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH

        1. It really would be best if Pedo Jeffy offed himself.

      2. Gillespie, Chappelle, and BLM all want regulation at the federal level.

  25. Liberals control all the major institutions in America, the MSM, education, Hollywood, etc., so if there’s systemic racism who’s really to blame?

    1. Chappelle may want people to ignore Floyd STUCK A GUN INTO THE STOMACH OF A WOMAN AND PISTOL WHIPPED HER (which probably led to a miscarriage) but people with a moral compass won’t.

      He did his time but he clearly didn’t rehabilitate.

      Now he’s some kind of retarded martyr and commies are looking to capitalize on this through cancel culture and beyond.

      GTFOH.

      1. A police officer knealt on his neck until he was dead without knowing all of this background information. He knew that the guy may have passed a bad $20 bill.

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        2. They apparently had a history from working at a club.

          Still murder.

      2. We don’t use cops to administer street justice on people who “clearly didn’t rehabilitate.” But let’s be clear, while I have no need or desire to grant Floyd sainthood, this is a guy who MAY have turned his life around, and then lost his job due to the Coronavirus lockdowns and started taking drugs. We all knew that that kind of damage might occur due to lockdowns. I’m also not in a position to know for certain whether or not the bill he passed was counterfeit, or whether or not he knew it was counterfeit if it was.

        His past sins are not the basis, or any justification for what happened to him.

    2. Yeah, about the “MSM”.

      Somehow, one of the biggest and most influential media organizations is always left out of the definition of “MSM”.

      Why is that? Because the definition of “MSM” is big media companies that conservatives don’t like. It’s a self-fulfilling definition.

      1. If the liberals control all the companies of the MSM except for one that means they control the MSM.

        1. There are plenty of conservative news sources. Most prominently FOX.

          It just takes one major conservative news source to counter the narrative that mainstream news is controlled by liberals.

          Are you saying that conservatives who want conservative-oriented news are incapable of tuning in a TV channel or going to a website or finding the conservative talk show on their radio?

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          2. No I’m saying liberals don’t get the truth from MSM.

    3. There’s a Republican administration, and a bunch of the states are “red”. How again does that translate to liberals controlling all education?

      Conservatives get so much mileage out of portraying themselves as victims of persecution.

      1. The majority of the population lives in blue states.

        1. In the red states, education is run by Team Red.

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          2. I’m seriously considering excommunicating you as my disciple. You are weak in the faith.

          3. We know you’re Jeff because only he would say something so obviously false and believe it.

            Try visiting any university then get back to us.

    4. They are racist but they feel totes bad about it

  26. Chappelles career is based on racial conflict.

    If he couldn’t throw “niggers” around like hand grenades and mock white people he’d be a nobody.

    Without racism the looters wouldn’t be able to enjoy their annual black Floyday.

    BLM never mentions that the most black violence is black on black because that would weaken their agenda.

    The ONLY systemic racism policy is Affirmative Action. The government sponsored policy that discriminated against ONLY white males.

    Maybe these truths could be Chappelles new act.

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  28. I mostly heard a formerly innovative, leading comedian selling his soul to liberal orthodoxy, which is to say disgusting, vile things about conservative women who have actually nuanced observations about today’s societal problems.

    Isn’t it quite ironic that Netflix just paid for actual verbal sexual assault on women?

    1. Noticed that too.

      Nice little passive aggressive attack on a woman there, Dave.

  29. Racially-motivated police brutality implies a white cop and a black citizen, right? So why isn’t there a concerted effort to recruit black police officers? Change the system from within.

  30. UC Berkeley prof: Black incarceration is proportional to their involvement in violent crime

    http://www.zerohedge.com/political/anonymous-berkeley-professor-shreds-blm-injustice-narrative-damning-stats-and-logic

    An anonymous history professor at U.C. Berkeley has penned an open letter against the current narratives of racial injustice underpinning the BLM movement and ongoing protests over the death of George Floyd.

    Its authenticity was confirmed by Kentucky State University Assistant Professor of Political Science, Wilfred Reilley, who says he was sent a copy of the letter along with Stanford University economist Thomas Sowell.

    I can confirm that the letter in the thread below was sent to me and Tom Sowell. It’s really worth reading, in a time of widespread panic.

    Dear profs X, Y, Z

    I am one of your colleagues at the University of California, Berkeley. I have met you both personally but do not know you closely, and am contacting you anonymously, with apologies. I am worried that writing this email publicly might lead to me losing my job, and likely all future jobs in my field.

    In your recent departmental emails you mentioned our pledge to diversity, but I am increasingly alarmed by the absence of diversity of opinion on the topic of the recent protests and our community response to them.

    In the extended links and resources you provided, I could not find a single instance of substantial counter-argument or alternative narrative to explain the under-representation of black individuals in academia or their over-representation in the criminal justice system. The explanation provided in your documentation, to the near exclusion of all others, is univariate: the problems of the black community are caused by whites, or, when whites are not physically present, by the infiltration of white supremacy and white systemic racism into American brains, souls, and institutions.

    Many cogent objections to this thesis have been raised by sober voices, including from within the black community itself, such as Thomas Sowell and Wilfred Reilly. These people are not racists or ‘Uncle Toms’. They are intelligent scholars who reject a narrative that strips black people of agency and systematically externalizes the problems of the black community onto outsiders. Their view is entirely absent from the departmental and UCB-wide communiques.

    The claim that the difficulties that the black community faces are entirely causally explained by exogenous factors in the form of white systemic racism, white supremacy, and other forms of white discrimination remains a problematic hypothesis that should be vigorously challenged by historians. Instead, it is being treated as an axiomatic and actionable truth without serious consideration of its profound flaws, or its worrying implication of total black impotence. This hypothesis is transforming our institution and our culture, without any space for dissent outside of a tightly policed, narrow discourse.

    A counternarrative exists. If you have time, please consider examining some of the documents I attach at the end of this email. Overwhelmingly, the reasoning provided by BLM and allies is either primarily anecdotal (as in the case with the bulk of Ta-Nehisi Coates’ undeniably moving article) or it is transparently motivated. As an example of the latter problem, consider the proportion of black incarcerated Americans. This proportion is often used to characterize the criminal justice system as anti-black. However, if we use the precise same methodology, we would have to conclude that the criminal justice system is even more anti-male than it is anti-black.

    Would we characterize criminal justice as a systemically misandrist conspiracy against innocent American men? I hope you see that this type of reasoning is flawed, and requires a significant suspension of our rational faculties. Black people are not incarcerated at higher rates than their involvement in violent crime would predict. This fact has been demonstrated multiple times across multiple jurisdictions in multiple countries.

    And yet, I see my department uncritically reproducing a narrative that diminishes black agency in favor of a white-centric explanation that appeals to the department’s apparent desire to shoulder the ‘white man’s burden’ and to promote a narrative of white guilt.

    If we claim that the criminal justice system is white-supremacist, why is it that Asian Americans, Indian Americans, and Nigerian Americans are incarcerated at vastly lower rates than white Americans? This is a funny sort of white supremacy. Even Jewish Americans are incarcerated less than gentile whites. I think it’s fair to say that your average white supremacist disapproves of Jews. And yet, these alleged white supremacists incarcerate gentiles at vastly higher rates than Jews. None of this is addressed in your literature. None of this is explained, beyond hand-waving and ad hominems. “Those are racist dogwhistles”. “The model minority myth is white supremacist”. “Only fascists talk about black-on-black crime”, ad nauseam.

    These types of statements do not amount to counterarguments: they are simply arbitrary offensive classifications, intended to silence and oppress discourse. Any serious historian will recognize these for the silencing orthodoxy tactics they are, common to suppressive regimes, doctrines, and religions throughout time and space. They are intended to crush real diversity and permanently exile the culture of robust criticism from our department.

    Increasingly, we are being called upon to comply and subscribe to BLM’s problematic view of history, and the department is being presented as unified on the matter. In particular, ethnic minorities are being aggressively marshaled into a single position. Any apparent unity is surely a function of the fact that dissent could almost certainly lead to expulsion or cancellation for those of us in a precarious position, which is no small number.

    I personally don’t dare speak out against the BLM narrative, and with this barrage of alleged unity being mass-produced by the administration, tenured professoriat, the UC administration, corporate America, and the media, the punishment for dissent is a clear danger at a time of widespread economic vulnerability. I am certain that if my name were attached to this email, I would lose my job and all future jobs, even though I believe in and can justify every word I type.

    The vast majority of violence visited on the black community is committed by black people. There are virtually no marches for these invisible victims, no public silences, no heartfelt letters from the UC regents, deans, and departmental heads. The message is clear: Black lives only matter when whites take them. Black violence is expected and insoluble, while white violence requires explanation and demands solution. Please look into your hearts and see how monstrously bigoted this formulation truly is.

    No discussion is permitted for nonblack victims of black violence, who proportionally outnumber black victims of nonblack violence. This is especially bitter in the Bay Area, where Asian victimization by black assailants has reached epidemic proportions, to the point that the SF police chief has advised Asians to stop hanging good-luck charms on their doors, as this attracts the attention of (overwhelmingly black) home invaders. Home invaders like George Floyd. For this actual, lived, physically experienced reality of violence in the USA, there are no marches, no tearful emails from departmental heads, no support from McDonald’s and Wal-Mart. For the History department, our silence is not a mere abrogation of our duty to shed light on the truth: it is a rejection of it.

    The claim that black intraracial violence is the product of redlining, slavery, and other injustices is a largely historical claim. It is for historians, therefore, to explain why Japanese internment or the massacre of European Jewry hasn’t led to equivalent rates of dysfunction and low SES performance among Japanese and Jewish Americans respectively. Arab Americans have been viciously demonized since 9/11, as have Chinese Americans more recently. However, both groups outperform white Americans on nearly all SES indices – as do Nigerian Americans, who incidentally have black skin. It is for historians to point out and discuss these anomalies. However, no real discussion is possible in the current climate at our department. The explanation is provided to us, disagreement with it is racist, and the job of historians is to further explore additional ways in which the explanation is additionally correct. This is a mockery of the historical profession. […]

    The total alliance of major corporations involved in human exploitation with BLM should be a warning flag to us, and yet this damning evidence goes unnoticed, purposefully ignored, or perversely celebrated. We are the useful idiots of the wealthiest classes, carrying water for Jeff Bezos and other actual, real, modern-day slavers. Starbucks, an organisation using literal black slaves in its coffee plantation suppliers, is in favor of BLM. Sony, an organisation using cobalt mined by yet more literal black slaves, many of whom are children, is in favor of BLM. And so, apparently, are we. The absence of counter-narrative enables this obscenity. Fiat lux, indeed.

    There also exists a large constituency of what can only be called ‘race hustlers’: hucksters of all colors who benefit from stoking the fires of racial conflict to secure administrative jobs, charity management positions, academic jobs and advancement, or personal political entrepreneurship.

    Given the direction our history department appears to be taking far from any commitment to truth, we can regard ourselves as a formative training institution for this brand of snake-oil salespeople. Their activities are corrosive, demolishing any hope at harmonious racial coexistence in our nation and colonizing our political and institutional life. Many of their voices are unironically segregationist.

    MLK would likely be called an Uncle Tom if he spoke on our campus today. We are training leaders who intend, explicitly, to destroy one of the only truly successful ethnically diverse societies in modern history. As the PRC, an ethnonationalist and aggressively racially chauvinist national polity with null immigration and no concept of jus solis increasingly presents itself as the global political alternative to the US, I ask you: Is this wise? Are we really doing the right thing?

    As a final point, our university and department has made multiple statements celebrating and eulogizing George Floyd. Floyd was a multiple felon who once held a pregnant black woman at gunpoint. He broke into her home with a gang of men and pointed a gun at her pregnant stomach. He terrorized the women in his community. He sired and abandoned multiple children, playing no part in their support or upbringing, failing one of the most basic tests of decency for a human being. He was a drug-addict and sometime drug-dealer, a swindler who preyed upon his honest and hard-working neighbors.

    And yet, the regents of UC and the historians of the UCB History department are celebrating this violent criminal, elevating his name to virtual sainthood. A man who hurt women. A man who hurt black women. With the full collaboration of the UCB history department, corporate America, most mainstream media outlets, and some of the wealthiest and most privileged opinion-shaping elites of the USA, he has become a culture hero, buried in a golden casket, his (recognized) family showered with gifts and praise. Americans are being socially pressured into kneeling for this violent, abusive misogynist. A generation of black men are being coerced into identifying with George Floyd, the absolute worst specimen of our race and species. […]

  31. I usually love Dave Chapelle’s comedy
    BUT his use of Chris Dorner or the Dallas Police Shooter as some type of ‘righteous martyrs to a corrupt police system’ really made me want to puke.
    These were psychopathic killers who targeted innocent people – in Dorner’s case the first two people he murdered in cold blood were non-police. He shot them down like dogs – while they were in their car in the garage of their apartment building.
    I’m a big Chappelle fan, but he really didn’t do his research on this and that ruined the message he was trying to get across.

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