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Trump Claims He Has 'Total' Authority Over When States End Social Distancing Rules. He's Wrong.

Plus: Americans plan to stay home for months, courts block more abortion bans, Amash "looking closely" at presidential run, and more...

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Donald Trump told America last night that as president, total authority rests with him. "And that's the way it's gotta be. It's total. It's total. And the governors know that," the president said during Monday night's televised press conference on COVID-19 developments.

Last week, Trump told states they were on their own. Last night, he suggested "they can't do anything without the approval of the president."

Trump was referring to state decisions whether to "open the economy" anytime soon, something his administration has been urging state leaders to do while simultaneously denying them access to critical supplies from the National Strategic Stockpile and sometimes seizing gear that states and hospitals managed to acquire on their own.

If there's a possible way to make state leaders look unprepared, Trump seems willing to take it regardless of the potential cost in American lives.

But Trump is wrong about having "total" authority over state leaders, and he's wrong about being able to force a one-size-fits-all solution on the whole country.

Trump may tell Twitter that it's not "the Governors [sic] decision to open up the states" but "that of the President of the United States & the Federal Government," however—as Billy Binion wrote here yesterday—"the U.S. Constitution and Supreme Court precedent say otherwise." Or, as John Yoo notes at National Review:

Congress can control commerce that crosses state lines, and even prohibit wholly intrastate activity that affects the national markets. It cannot, however, force individuals and businesses to engage in business in the first place.

Trump is also wrong to think we can move forward based on a national solution rather than regional and local approaches.

New York City is not Yavapai County, Arizona. San Francisco isn't the Iowa suburbs or rural Kentucky. And so on. It's foolish, unproductive, and dangerous to pretend the whole country should be lifting containment measures in unison or to act like one person can know what's right for folks in vastly different communities with varying risk factors and a mish-mash of resources.


FOLLOWUP

Legal battles over state abortion bans continue. Oklahoma Gov. Kevin Stitt declared in late March that "any type of abortion services … which are not a medical emergency as defined … or otherwise necessary to prevent serious health risks to the unborn child's mother" would be temporarily banned. Earlier this month, a U.S. district judge ruled against the ban. Now, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit has upheld the lower court's decision.

That's in line with what the 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decided last week with regard to an Ohio abortion ban.

But the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit decided the other way for Texas. Abortion providers there have asked the U.S. Supreme Court to intervene.

Meanwhile, Arkansas' abortion-ban battle is just getting started in court. On Monday, the American Civil Liberties Union filed an emergency motion challenging the state's ban on abortion procedures during the COVID-19 pandemic.


FREE MINDS

Amash teases a presidential run. On Monday, Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) responded to a tweet suggesting he should be America's alternate option in the 2020 election for those who care about limited government by saying he was "looking at it closely this week."


FREE MARKETS

Americans plan to stay away from some public spaces for months:

New polling from Morning Consult shows that some consumers won't feel comfortable traveling or heading back to many public spaces at all for at least six months—with many unsure of how to even answer the question of when they'll feel safe returning to normal life.

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ELECTION 2020

Anti-drug war activist and judge joins Libertarian Party presidential contest. From Reason's Matt Welch:

Judge Jim Gray, the 2012 Libertarian Party (L.P.) vice presidential nominee and the first sitting jurist to come out against the drug war way back in 1992, announced to his email list Monday that he will seek the party's presidential nomination in tandem with vice presidential candidate Larry Sharpe.

The L.P., America's third-place finisher in the previous two presidential elections, is scheduled to determine its 2020 ticket during a national convention on May 21-25.

More here.


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  1. Trump Claims He Has ‘Total’ Authority Over When States End Social Distancing Rules. He’s Wrong.

    Broke: its all Trump’s fault we didn’t lock down earlier
    Woke: Trump doesn’t have the authority to open it back up

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      Carry on.

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      2. ITT, De Oppresso Liber, who I call Lying Jeffy because he lies so much and is likely Jeff, posts a bunch of links to support his stupid assertions, but the links all contain unsubstantiated opinion, conjecture and bullshit.

        1. It’s mindboggling how he thinks such childish lies are even remotely effective in advancing his narrative.

    2. He was right the first time, should have stuck to that position. Still funny how blatant the hypocrisy is though.

    3. I love ENB dropping in the whole “Trump kept materials in the national stockpile” thing, without mentioning that…you know…they ended up not actually needing them. Doesn’t that mean the administration was correct?

      1. Or that the governors said they actually got the supplies. They just asked for more than they needed.

      2. ENB is a hack. She isn’t practicing journalism, and Reason is condoning that practice.

      3. New York had insufficient masks for most of March. Columbia Presbyterian,which is the richest and best supplied hospital in the state, was reduced to giving each of its employees a single surgical mask to wear while commuting (single, that is, for the entire month), and didn’t have enough N95 masks to outfit the doctors and nurses working directly with COVID patients.

        Some national assistance would have been very useful.

        1. The federal government should have had extra masks. They didn’t. It’s a bummer.

          But that is different from what ENB accused them of- holding back equipment, and seizing equipment. That largely revolves around ventilators, and only now are we realizing that by and large the “shortage” and the fighting and the spinning was just a bunch of model-induced hysteria.

        2. What other supply chains in business do you feel it is the duty of the feds to involve itself with?

    4. We live in the most retarded of times. I honestly don’t understand how Trump an unsophisticated baboon who talks in elementary level student gov platitudes runs circles around this set on messaging and politics. It’s fucking epic.

      1. he does it everytime and it always astounds me they don’t even see it coming.

        1. TDS is real.

      2. Seriously. I thought I was the crazy one noticing this but the media is dumber than I first thought.

        I now want to go into a journalism class and see first hand who these fricken people are because they can’t possibly be this fricken stupid.

        1. One thing I’ve learned recently is that they are evidently teaching them that starting a title with “No,” is a good thing.

          1. My High School English teacher would have marked us down for it.

            1. “No, starting a headline with ‘No’ is not not appropriate.'”

        2. Trust me…they are that stupid.

        3. I took a communications class back in college as an elective for a non-journalism major. The class was graded on a curve. The journalism majors were upset that the few non-journalism majors were throwing the curve.

        4. Everybody in the media would fail a real journalism class. The media isn’t interesting in truth-telling, they are interested in story-telling.

    5. “Trump’s a dictator!”
      “Trump’s not dictating enough in this crisis!”
      “Trump’s a dictator!”

      Our schizophrenic media at work. Wonder if the fact that BatAIDS is doing more damage to the Democrat-leaning parts of the country is what is driving most of this hysteria.

    6. Hey, if all you Trump worshipers are going to say anything, anything negative about Trump, and maybe stick up for the Constitution, today’s the day.

      How about it? LC1789? JesseAz? John?

      Too late for Ra’s. Trump just declared he has total power, and Ra’s is bitching about unreason writing staff. You know, what’s important to care about when the friggin’ President is publicly declaring that he has total power.

      1. Anything? loveconstitution1789? It’s right there in your handle that you supposedly love the Constitution…

        1. What was the 2nd amendment for again? I can’t recall over this loud–“I HAVE TOTAL AUTHORITY. TOTAL! THE PRESIDENT IS THE BOSS.”

          Just another reveal, in case any of you still thought the right wing had a shred of consistency or self awareness.

          I’m sure all of you still praising Trump would have taken such a calm, accepting take on this if Obama had just got up on the podium, showed a propaganda reel, then declared he had total authority.

          1. He only had more flexibility after the election.

            1. Which is a much more innocuous statement, yet is burned into your brain 8 years later. Thanks for proving my point.

              1. Hey, don’t look at him!

          2. Yup. Pathetic how JesseAz, Nardz, and the rest of the Trump gang regularly reveal what they truly care about.

            1. You’re as retarded as sqrsly arent you.

              1. So, you are not going to say anything in defense of the Constitution. Got it.

        2. They didn’t respond to your trolling in less than 2 minutes! Reee!

          1. It’s been way longer that two minutes.

        3. not certain a tweet crosses the line –> Constitutional violation.

          1. Obama gave us the most transparent Presidency ever – Trump’s!!

          2. Dumbshit, nobody said that Trump has violated the Constitution. He showed his ignorance of the Constitution. You’re having trouble following along, so I guess I had to explain that to you.

      2. Fuckin’ LOL. If lc1789 is living that deep in your head, you should at least charge him rent to supplement your lost lockdown-related income.

        1. If Obama, ENB, unreason, Schiff, Pelosi, Baby Jeff, are living so deep in all of YOUR heads, maybe you have a problem, too.

      3. Hey dumbfuck, yesterday. As well as multiple times in the past. Now say one good thing fucktard.

    7. Both the ‘broke’ and ‘woke’ are wrong here. He can open it up by rescinding any closure ‘recommendations’ maybe. However, as Rand Paul put it: “The Constitution doesn’t allow President Trump to be ‘the ultimate regulator of our lives’.” That power is nowhere in the enumerated powers held by the executive branch. One could well say it is a state’s rights issue, as per the Tenth Amendment. It’s too bad he’s going there now. He started out by getting rid of extraneous regulations, appointing Neil Gorsuch, and signing an executive order defending religious freedom. This move toward regulation makes me angry…and glad I didn’t vote for him.

      1. You stupid fuck – you think stepping in to end governors’ violations of civil liberties is increasing regulation?
        Jfc

  2. Please be true….please be true….

    https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/fynsrm/this_isnt_funny_bernie_why_did_u_drop_out/

    THIS ISNT FUNNY BERNIE WHY DID U DROP OUT
    THIS IS NOT FUCKING FUNNY

    I literally donated my student loan balance that my parentis signed for to Bernie’s campaign. Im FREAKING the FUCK OUT RIGHT NOW! I’ve been nauseous since yesterday worse then the time I found out I was pregnant. Bernie PROMISED he’d beat the Fucking Cheeto and erase student loan debts.. I NEEDED THIS! I’m so fucked.. My dad is going to disown me. I know it. He’s told me before that Uni was my last chance, and the second the tuition check doesn’t clear for the next semester I’ll be broke AND homeless. I’m shaking so hard typing this. I’ll do anything please PLEASE tell me there’s a way to get my money back that isnt bullshit. You fucking nationalist greedy fucks couldn’t just let us have free education and live in a better world. You had to RUIN MY LIFE instead. I hate you so fucking much. Now I have to choose between two rapists for President AND try to explain why lim a dropout AND beg my parents to not kick me out. I have no words. I’m just screaming into my pillow and trying not to throw this fucking phone into the wall. I’m so fucking angry. You fucking magapedes are going to pay for this. I swear it.

    1. Oh man, that made my day!

    2. Just one more trigger and her head explodes!

      1. Why are you assuming this person’s gender? Men can get pregnant too.

        1. Only in liberal-land; not in the real world where this individual has clearly never been.

    3. That is so clearly a parody that it makes some of OBL’s posts seem subtle.

      This person donated their entire student loan balance to the Bern campaign, hoping that it would get erased, and now she is afraid that her check won’t clear next semester? Like Bernie would forgive debts before even taking office next year?

      1. Yeah, it’s entirely too on-the-nose and not particularly well executed.

      2. Obviously NOT a math major – – – – – – – –

    4. Fuck yes.

    5. It’s hilarious, so I’m sorry to rain on the parade, but…

      “He’s told me before that Uni was my last chance”
      Isn’t Uni what Brits say? I call made-up
      also…

      “magapedes”
      a play on “megapedo” That’s British too

      1. MAGA + centipede; is what I would have guessed.

    6. Smells like an OBL sock

    7. That can’t be real. It’s got to be a 4chan prank.

    8. Oh, if this was true, but still fun to read. They’re getting an education, just not the one their parents bargained for. Probably more useful to the young one though.

      “Magapedes” reads like something from Herodotus.

      Wouldn’t a student loan disbursement be over the maximum campaign contribution limit?

    9. I sincerely hope you are an engineering major…or even business to get a decent paying job…

  3. It’s foolish, unproductive, and dangerous to pretend the whole country should be lifting containment measures in unison or to act like one person can know what’s right for folks in vastly different communities with varying risk factors and a mish-mash of resources.

    One imagines President Trump agrees with this statement.

    1. Well, unless that man is MY chosen leader.

    2. This is fantastic gas lighting. For weeks the Media fans the flames of hysteria until Governors start shutting the economy down. Then they shift to “What do we do about the economy”. Article after article of “Trump has no plan” and then as soon as he starts making a plan, it is “Trump can’t do that!”.

      Look, Trump is really a buffoon with his tweets. But set that aside for a second. Should he be “planning to open up the economy” or not? If he doesn’t have the authority to roll out a plan, then stop asking him for one. If he does have the authority, stop kvetching that he shouldn’t be doing this.

    3. Wasn’t the media screeching for Trump to issue a national stay at home order? If he had that power, then he must have the power to rescind a stay at home order too. Or is this Hotel California?

      1. No one expects Trump to do anything. Haven’t you noticed governors forming regional alliances? You think that’s normal?

        1. He tricked them into doing that.

          1. Are you being serious? Trump can’t think past his next meal (6 Fish Delights and a diet coke). The man is renowned for having the attention span of a hyperactive goldfish.

            1. Gobbling down fistfuls of speed will do that to a person.

            2. And you’re back to full Vox talking points.

            3. It’s actually a good strategy. The Govs have to take responsibility for the shut downs and Trump can complain about them, see Michigan hag gov.

        2. If no one expects Trump to do anything, then why are they crying about it like teenage bitches?

        3. What, kind of like how there were regional governor alliances under Obama as well?

    4. It would have been nice if the state governors had taken a similar approach. The bugman urban areas are not the same as the rural/semi-rural parts of the state, but that didn’t stop them from implementing one-size-fits-all solutions. Guess it’s okay when they do it, but not Cheeto Hitler.

      1. TBF, the argument I have seen is that they don’t want the urban areas pulling a New York, and all the city people heading out to the mountains to escape the quarantine. If you have drank the koolaid on batshit hysteria in the first place, you pretty much either need to lock down the whole state, or you need road blocks locking people into the city.

        1. Lots of people live near state lines that can be crossed.

  4. “Sorry, Americans. We’re going to have to ask you to keep two ideas in your head at the same time: This has nothing to do with Asian Americans, and it has everything to do with China,” Maher concluded. “We can’t afford the luxury anymore of nonjudginess towards a country with habits that kill millions of people everywhere because this isn’t the first time. SARS came from China and the bird flu and the Hong Kong flu, the Asian flu. Viruses come from China just like shortstops come from the Dominican Republic. If they were selling nuclear suitcases at these wet markets, would we be so nonjudgmental?”
    — Bill Maher

    1. He’s one of the best examples of TDS and his hatred towards certain people ruining an otherwise intelligent commentator.

    2. Libertine, not libertarian, but he’s dead on with that quote.

      This virus arose from either negligently continuing their poor sanitation practices with live markets—and the big Wuhan one that was thought to be the epicenter of this pandemic, has since reopened—or it arose from negligence in their virology labs. Either way, China is negligent as hell, and the world’s suffered an amazing amount of harm.

      The bill needs to be paid.

      1. “Libertine, not libertarian”

        Good point.

  5. I am so sick of these “we are in this together” , stay at home , thank you hero’s commercials , that I am ready to smash the TV.

    1. I haven’t been this disgusted with my countrymen since boston strong.

      1. Was it the shelter in place to search for the bombers? or the national reaction that disgusted you?

        1. The Boston thing was pretty embarrassing. The cradle of the Revolution along with Philly and all they could muster up was a stupid slogan while waiting in their homes until the cops hunted down two little shits.

          Let’s not rehash Rolling Stone magazine’s despicable hero worship of a murderer.

      2. Me (sees VW commercial): We’re so kind! Call us!
        VW: We can defer payments two months.
        Me (considers it): You’ll extend the lease by two months on the back end then?
        VW (pause): No. We tack it on your final payment. If you owe $500 you will owe $1500 on final payment.
        Me: That’s not helpful. I thought we’re all supposed to do our part!
        VW: Do I go ahead and process?
        Me: CLICK!

        The bottom line is this. When you follow the little mouse all along to its logical end you will see a big Bank Brain saying, ‘FUCK YOU. PAY ME.’

        Either you shut it ALL DOWN or you don’t.

        What’s being forced on North America isn’t just mechanically a major disruptive force on the economy but it’s now an IMMORAL one.

        1. Is crying making you feel better?

          1. Does this comment make you feel better about the insecurities you developed from a childhood of getting pummeled by the bigger, stronger boys?

            1. “getting pummeled humped by the bigger, stronger boys?”

              Fixed.
              It’s no coincidence that he takes his pseudonym from a twink anime character in a gay show.

          2. Lol.

            /flashes ‘L’ on forehead.

    2. But superficial, fake camaraderie and community spirit are better than irrational panic and despair, right?

    3. Tell me about it.

      What a crock of cynical shit.

      It actually angers me enough to want to punch people who say it.

      1. Plus anyone who uses “if it saves just one life” to justify their actions

        1. 100-200,000, but what’s a few hundred thousand between friends?

        2. if it saves just one life I won’t kill the postman.

          Ok?

    4. I am so sick of these “we are in this together” , stay at home , thank you hero’s commercials , that I am ready to smash the TV.

      Wait until it’s over and the commercials change to “We’re in this together, so spend all you can! It’s your duty.”

      1. We are in this together abusing the prog trolls!!

    5. Sometimes in between, they still manage to slip in those 90-second long ASPCA abused puppy rescue porn, featuring the voice of the saddest woman on the planet.

      Just to mix it up a bit.

  6. But he kind of does….. Because of all 50 state’s disaster deceleration. Is reason unaware of black helicopter and fema conspiracies or is that to far out of the beltway? I feel like even the x-files covered this in the 90’s.

    1. “That’s different and you know it!”

  7. Bloomberg News Killed Investigation, Fired Reporter, Then Sought To Silence His Wife

    Michael Bloomberg’s short-lived presidential bid reignited a long-simmering dispute over the widespread use of nondisclosure agreements at American corporations — especially at his own.

    His namesake company, Bloomberg LP, has used nondisclosure agreements broadly to conceal allegations and silence complaints from employees of sexual harassment or a hostile work environment, as published reports have documented.

    The story of one Bloomberg reporter and his wife showcases the widespread use of such legal restraints at the company — and how far their reach can extend.

    Six years ago, Bloomberg News killed an investigation into the wealth of Communist Party elites in China, fearful of repercussions by the Chinese government. The company successfully silenced the reporters involved. And it sought to keep the spouse of one of the reporters quiet, too.

    “They assumed that because I was the wife of their employee, I was the wife,” the author and journalist Leta Hong Fincher tells NPR. “I was just an appendage of their employee. I was not a human being.”

    1. What does it say when the first thing I thought after reading your post was, “At least she or the both of them didn’t end up dead in a puzzling single-car accident.”

      We dodged a bullet when that little Il Duce wannabe dropped out.

  8. “It cannot, however, force individuals and businesses to engage in business in the first place.”

    What about cake baking?

    1. But you can force them to put women on the board.

      1. And legally compel them to use whatever pronouns are appropriate for an intersex two-spirited genderflux neutrois.

    2. “It cannot, however, force individuals and businesses to engage in business in the first place.”
      It can’t force, but it can penalize. You still have the option to chose which you prefer.

    3. Huh? Obamacare, anyone? Wrongly decided, but still what the SCOTUS said.

  9. Don’t fall for the right-wing myth that China is the villain here.

    A new study backs up what has already been documented anecdotally in the last few months: The coronavirus pandemic has coincided with a surge in Sinophobic, or anti-Chinese, sentiments — especially online.

    Technically the virus may have originated there. But we call it the #TrumpVirus for a reason: Orange Hitler is ultimately responsible for this pandemic.

    #LibertariansAgainstSinophobia

    1. You’re just quoting buttplug at this point.

      1. I think that just means Buttplug has become a parody of himself.

    2. The worst insult is equating China people with their asshole government which is responsible for the virus, which is what is happening when people say that criticizing the government is the same as racism against the Chinese

      1. blah that sentence structure is garbage. I need coffee. Bottom line: saying that criticizing the Chinese government is racism is just disgusting boot licking

        1. Honestly, most Chinese nationals can get fucked too. There I said it.

          They’re brainwashed 21st century nazis.

          But Trump calling corona the “China Virus” was both incorrect and not helpful. There were a bunch of attacks on asian americans, and the president has a responsibility, no matter how much he tries to avoid responsibility.

          1. “There were a bunch of attacks on asian americans,”

            How many is a bunch, and where’s your cite, Lying Jeffy?

            1. My cite is my asian family and friends, and many, many articles if you were at all intellectually curious. My mother in law, who speaks no English and doesn’t go anywhere except the grocery store and church and was accosted by a man while walking in her neighborhood who got up in her face and screamed at her. She’s a tiny 70 year old woman.

              The FBI has also warned of a notable pickup in racially motivated attacks against asians. It’s happening.

              Why are you so aware of every bad word spoken about your cult daddy, but apparently can’t be bothered to read the news? Pretty sad you need this spoon fed to you: https://www.telesurenglish.net/news/Hate-Crimes-Against-Asians-Surge-in-US-Amid-COVID-19-20200330-0008.html

              1. They aren’t intellectually curious.

              2. 1) Is yelling now a crime?

                2) Which backwoods Trump worshipping red state do you live in? His influence must be palpable

                1. Typical leftist shithole

              3. That sucks about your mother in law, and if I’d have been standing nearby I would have intervened, but that’s not assault. Your cite says “The FBI assesses hate crime incidents against Asian Americans likely will surge“ and then gives one example. But at least I understand what you mean by a bunch, so you sorta answered my question.

                “Why are you so aware of every bad word spoken about your cult daddy,”

                You just can’t help making up shit, then wonder why nobody believes you.

                1. Pretty sure that the “mother in law” is an invention too.

                  1. You mean since he’s a liar? Yeah you’re probably right.

            2. I think his post was more hateful and caused more attacks than Orange Man. Get fucked, indeed

              1. Is the FBI making up racially motivated crimes against asians? Check my source. Sorry this doesn’t conform to your comfortable fantasyland.

                1. Did you check your source? Do you understand that the only actual quotes from FBI says “likely surge” and “The FBI makes this assessment based on the assumption” and then gives one actual example?

  10. We don’t cover accusations against Dems, so there is no public outcry, so we don’t have to cover them:

    https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/tim-graham/2020/04/13/top-ny-times-editor-bumbles-defense-covering-kavanaugh-rougher-biden

    SMITH: I’ve been looking at The Times’s coverage of Justice Brett M. Kavanaugh. I want to focus particularly on the Julie Swetnick allegations. She was the one who was represented by Michael Avenatti and who suggested that Kavanaugh had been involved in frat house rapes, and then appeared to walk back elements of her allegations. The Times wrote that story the same day she made the allegation, noting that “none of Ms. Swetnick’s claims could be independently corroborated.”

    Why was Kavanaugh treated differently?

    BAQUET: Kavanaugh was already in a public forum in a large way. Kavanaugh’s status as a Supreme Court justice was in question because of a very serious allegation. And when I say in a public way, I don’t mean in the public way of Tara Reade’s. If you ask the average person in America, they didn’t know about the Tara Reade case. So I thought in that case, if The New York Times was going to introduce this to readers, we needed to introduce it with some reporting and perspective. Kavanaugh was in a very different situation. It was a live, ongoing story that had become the biggest political story in the country. It was just a different news judgment moment.

    1. See my comment in Brickbats.

    2. Don’t make Elizabeth “Credible Accusations” Brown apply any sort of consistent principle. Good God, man, abortion is at stake here!

      1. I see her sitting on a throne made of teeny-tiny human skulls.

    3. So because the accused (Kavanaugh) was famous, we had to do the story.

      But since the accuser (Reade) isn’t famous, we don’t have to do the story.

      This goes right up with “other than the touching and kissing”.

      1. Apparently Biden, ex VP and Senator, is not famous enough, and the office he seeks, POTUS, is not as important as a Supreme.

        All the news that’s fit to print just bullshit.

  11. some consumers won’t feel comfortable traveling or heading back to many public spaces at all for at least six months—with many unsure of how to even answer the question of when they’ll feel safe returning to normal life.

    Well, *previously* how did these folks feel comfortable in normal life?

    1. Well, those crybabies are welcome to stay home.

      1. It’d be interesting if the government forced them to *go out*, eh?

      2. the *are*. economic destruction aside i’m loving the new society where the streets are mine, all mine and literally nobody bothers me at the office.

        1. My car caught the covid, which has soured me greatly

    2. Same people who refused to fly in October 2001, but were back in droves by 2002?

      1. And some people stopped flying all together when airports were declared constitution-free zones. Sort of like never again going into New Jersey or DC or CA or – – – – – – –

  12. https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1250013815812603906

    1/ And
    @nytimes
    continues to slide further into fiction this morning with this gem: the US needs “foreign doctors” because hospitals “are scrambling to address a shortage of medical professionals… (and keep) a full supply of health care workers.”

    2/ Meanwhile, back on planet Earth, hospitals are desperately laying off employees because they’re so empty:

    1. https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1250048956492627969

      This. Is. Incredible. If
      @QuestDX
      is furloughing people, no job is safe (except those of tenured academic public health experts! Their leadership and knowledge are essential.)

    2. This is why the media keeps playing footage from italy

  13. The “we should be like Sweden” crowds are awfully quiet. Is Japan doing anything other than putting some lockdowns on Tokyo?

    https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1249721766026641409

    I am going to follow up with data directly from Sweden but it appears deaths are plunging – not a shock, given the ICU trends. Recall, Sweden has no lockdown. Deaths per-capita have been far lower than the U.K., Italy, France, or Spain, just higher than other Nordic countries.

    1. https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1249639118948249600

      At this point
      @nytimes
      is just making stuff up. Where is the data that lockdowns have slowed the spread of #COVID? Comparing early v late v no lockdown states provides no evidence. Looking at Japan and Sweden, which have no lockdowns, provides no evidence…

      1. False. Everyone in Sweden is dead. It is known.

        1. Well, brain dead maybe

        2. Anyone who has seen the movie Midsommar know that Swedes have no issue with old people dying

      2. That was the whole point of IHME ramping back the “projected” figures in their models, so they could later claim the social distancing measures worked.

    2. You should not get caught up in comparisons to other nordic countries. Just compare Sweden’s COVID impact to their Flu deaths in previous years. They look to get out of this with about twice as many deaths as a bad flu year. That certainly sucks, but they also don’t destroy their economy as a result.

      1. It appears that the Wuhan virus leaves people with long term damage to their lungs and even some neurological damage. Ordinary flu doesn’t do that. So, it really is worse and a bigger problem than ordinary flu.

        The other thing is that the majority of the deaths in the US have been blacks. The low death rate in the Nordic countries and the prevalence of blacks among the US death makes me wonder if there is something about the virus that causes it to be more deadly to blacks than whites.

        1. Yes, it’s called obesity and all of the co-morbidities that come with it: diabetes, hypertension, CKF…

          1. Average population density…

        2. Weird heart myopathies too. Scientists are going to be awhile in unpacking all of the sequelae from this bug.

          The black death toll is going to go hand in hand with their other prevalent co-morbidities: obesity, the ‘beetus, a general lack of preventative healthcare in their cohort. Add to that a lack of social distancing compared to some other populations—I’m expecting a bunch of new cases over the next week from Easter get-togethers, with attendant death spike 2-3 weeks from now.

          Still not worth shutting down the country.

  14. “Americans plan to stay away from some public spaces for months”

    No fucken shit. The longer the pant shitting shut down goes, the harder it will take to get people back doing what they should be doing.

    I’m no Viennese brick or fancy psychiatrist but it’s basic Pysch 101-A.

    Same problem up here. We’ve fed people with so many (largely wrong) ‘worst case scenario models’ they just shut down and say, ‘I’ll play it safe’.

    Stop listening to the medical bureaucrats. We all know their solution is to keep it shut. They can weather the storm.

    The government in Quebec seems to be acutely aware of this wrinkle and when they announced we have to open up as soon as its feasible (meaning like fricken NOW), Miss Land Rover Soccer Mom Karen set up a petition demanding the government keep things shut until September.

    Has the thought ever occurred to her she can stay home and have the decency to let the rest of us pick up whatever shattered pieces Bill Gates and the government perpetuated on us and rebuild?

    1. Just in the same way bible thumpers feel compelled to save your soul, Karen knows what is best for you.

    2. But soccer moms always know what is best for everyone else. That is their core purpose.

  15. Tried to give Reason the benefit of the doubt… but as the only “libertarian” site that didnt cover the friday footnote release it is telling. New declassified foot ties show the FBI and IC knew the steele report was full of Russian disinformation as far back as 2016.

    https://pjmedia.com/trending/nunes-more-criminal-referrals-against-dems-involved-in-the-russia-scam-may-be-coming/

    1. What difference, at this point, does it make?

      1. Corona memory hole?

        1. Nice band name.

          1. If there really were such a thing as “Punk Rock” there would be a band called “The Wuhan Virus” to come out of all this.

            1. Kung Flu Panda.

    2. Well at least they fluffed Amash who discovered a new found respect for process crimes–a core libertarian value.

      1. But he only left the GOP due to principles. You’re wrong to say it was his ego and he was gearing for a presidential run lol.

        1. Since he’s obviously going nowhere now, I wonder why Reason keeps pushing him. In every daily Roundup ENB dutifully reports on his Twitter feed, and twice a month Boehm writes an Amash article pretending that he’s still relevant.

          I guess if you pay for a years advertising with Reason, you get a years advertising. IRL circumstances be damned.

    3. Apparently the 3M thing as fabricated by Russia.

  16. Did I miss ENB’s daily link to CNN? Well here then:

    https://www.cnn.com/search?size=10&q=Tara%20Reade%20

    1. I’m at the point now where, other than conservatives who are saner by order of magnitude, I think the entire media class are cynical hypocritical jerk offs.

      1. I think you’re being generous.

  17. Of course Trump does not have authority to change any state’s stay at home orders.
    Ask yourself what impact Trump would have on the electorate of a state still using draconian power to keep the economy stopped after the President uses his daily briefing to declare that state now cleared by experts to reopen?
    He has tremendous power, just not any legal authority.

    1. And considering that Michigan is a swing state, Whitmer is on the list for Dem VP, and her initial response to him mentioning hydroxychloroquine was to threaten Dr.’s and pharmacists if they used it for Covid, and her extremely draconian shut down orders, it could easily benefit him.

      1. Yes, and hurt tenuously elected Dem governors, like here in KY.

        Make no mistake: Beshear was elected not because KY liked him, but because Bevin was hated. If he tries to go against Trump he won’t get another term. The natives are restless. Rural counties are being decimated economically, and there are a scant few cases outside of Louisville and Lexington that simply don’t justify making work illegal. He’s gonna have to follow Trump’s timeline or he will pay for it after having sent the gestapo to churches on Easter.

        1. It was similar here. The last governor was a Republican, and while a lot of the blame he took for the Flint water crisis was bs, some of it wasn’t, and he was pretty bad in a lot of other ways. The pendulum had to swing.

      2. “And considering that Michigan is a swing state, Whitmer is on the list for Dem VP”

        Too ugly

  18. Virginia just decriminalized marijuana

    as a warm-up for decriminalizing radar detectors.

  19. https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2020/04/11/why-a-study-showing-that-covid-19-is-everywhere-is-good-news

    “COVID-19 takes 20-25 days to kill victims. The [Silverman and Washburne] paper reckons that 7m Americans were infected from March 8th to 14th, and official data show 7,000 deaths three weeks later. The resulting fatality rate is 0.1%, similar to that of flu. That is amazingly low, just a tenth of some other estimates. “

    1. Thanks to Trump!

  20. The gaslighting of America continues as the media keeps pushing the lie that everyone knew about covid in january.

    https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2020/04/12/chris-wallaces-hindsight-on-trump-wuhan-virus-response-is-dishonest/

    1. Sure they did, but what was that other thing that all the politicians and media stars were talking about in January?

      1. Feeding the homeless wasn’t it? Donating their time to the elderly?

    2. Chris Wallace is utter shit

    3. 3 Major airlines cancelled flights to/from china in January. Several senators (and me) sold stock holdings in January. It was certainly apparent by the end of Jan where this was headed.

      1. Well, that’s everybody folks! Even the people that were saying it wasn’t a big deal and then called Trump racist!

        Or, it’s more dishonest goalpost moving by Lying Jeffy.

        1. If the major airlines saw it coming, that’s pretty much everybody. And where was the goalpost move or the lie, R MAC? I’m starting to think you’re a fucking idiot.

          1. He is.

          2. Well we’ve gone from “everybody” to “pretty much everybody”

            His comment was specifically about the media, so they should at least be part of “everybody”.

            Or maybe you don’t understand what moving the goalpost or lying means.

            1. Did you really think the goal post was literally every human on earth and in orbit? If so, are you severely autistic?

              1. No not literally every human on earth and in orbit, that’s a dumb thing to say.

                The post was specifically about the media, so they, at the very least, should be included in “everyone”. And since they are doing it to make Trump look bad, I think including other politicians in the “everyone” would also be a safe assumption.

                But hey, if you want to start your own conversation about airlines, go ahead. I’m sure it will be riveting, and full of dishonest bullshit.

  21. More bad economic news.

    Charles Koch current net worth: $52.3 billion

    Every day without unlimited, unrestricted immigration is another day our benefactor’s fortune continues to decline. This is not how such a hardworking man deserves to spend his twilight years.

    #HowLongMustCharlesKochSuffer?

  22. One of the better articles on why not to react to early models:

    https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/to-understand-covid-we-need-evidence-scepticism-and-vigorous-debate

    Long story short… early models are bad. Your reaction can be worse than what you’re trying to fix.

    1. early models are bad.

      “But our early model took that into account!”

      1. And we will continue to adjust the models until they match the last to prove they were right!

        1. Well, the global climate warming change models remain consistently wrong.

  23. “Last week, Trump told states they were on their own. Last night, he suggested “they can’t do anything without the approval of the president”

    And reason castigated him for both stances while ignoring the statements of governors saying hoe responsive the feds have been. At least choose a narrative.

    1. They have a narrative. Trump sucks, duh!

      1. It’s not just a narrative. Trump does indeed suck.

        1. But enough about your homoerotic fantasies. This isn’t really the place.

    2. ” ignoring the statements of governors saying hoe responsive the feds have been.”

      Beautiful typo!

    3. Jesse, this is truly shocking. The man just declared himself the total authority in a subject in which he has no authority. You don’t see anything wrong with that, other than people criticizing him? Really? Care to put on your constitutional scholar hat and pretend Obama had just said those words?

      1. The Constitution only applies when there’s a Democrat in the White House.

        1. Aren’t you embarrassed to be samefagging your own posts so overtly?

  24. Also in all seriousness is reason actually on board with gov mandated social distancing? It’s unclear with the editorial and article slant.

    1. But if they are, jfc.

      1. They’ve written articles decrying FDA/CDC regulation, tariffs, immigration restrictions, “lack” of testing… but “government imposed lockdowns might hurt some people, and we don’t know if it’s worth it” is the closest they’ve come to criticizing it

    2. Which ever generates the most clicks, man.

    3. Yeah, let’s overlook the main point: Trump fucking publicly declared that he has total power.

      You would think that you all, if you are any kind of libertarian, would be a bit concerned about that. But, no, you are concerned about whether Reason might be taking any position that aligns with the Democrats.

      1. They are philosophically void. Pure tribalism.

        1. You should look in the mirror Lying Jeffy.

          1. Ooh, ooh, I can play this stupid game. R Mac is just a sock puppet for Tulpa who is a sock puppet for Nardz who is a sock puppet for LC1789 who is a sock puppet for JesseAz … it’s sock puppets all the way down.

            (John is probably a real person named “John”.)

            What the fuck does would it matter? Address what has been said, not who is saying it, you fucking cowards.

            1. I didn’t say shit about socks.

              “Address what has been said, not who is saying it, you fucking cowards.”

              Um, I was responding to this:

              “They are philosophically void. Pure tribalism.”

              I think my response addressed this comment as well as it deserved.

  25. There is no evidence that the virus now plaguing the world was engineered; scientists largely agree it came from animals.

    ENGINEERED BY ANIMALS

    1. Oh horseshit. Most of the ‘scientists’ I’ve read who’ve been arguing that, argue that the virus isn’t a bioweapon because if they were making a bioweapon, they’d have engineered it differently. They generally don’t answer the question, “Was the virus built in a lab?” Which isn’t the same question at all.

      Now, they claim the lack of nucleotide markers indicates a lack of genetic manipulation. 8 weeks ago, when people were taking sections of the newly sequenced virus genome, BLASTing them, and finding similar sequences to nucleotides found in plasmids used to transfer genetic material in molecular biology research, these same scientists were claiming that if it were a weapon, the Chinese would never be so sloppy as to leave these residues within their creation.

      The virus has not been engineered in ways to maximize its utility as a weapon. There’s no evidence of concentration, co-packaging with other agents to increase dispersion, suspension time in air, UV resistance, etc… Ergo, it’s likely not a created, fully realized weapon. Though that doesn’t seem to be stopping it from ruining a bunch of countries.

      If the virus did arise from gain-of-function research—adding utility to the virus to make it infectious within a different class of organism, like humans—there likely wouldn’t be markers or other evidence of its artificial nature. I guess if you were granted access to the CCP’s labs, inventoried their biological material, including nuclear and protein sequences, compared that inventory to that in other countries, and then compared both sets to what’s in the virus, you might be able to say that ‘X’ n-length base sequence in the virus is more likely to be from this sequence in China vs CDC Atlanta, but that’s it, I would think.

      IOW, it’s not a question that can be answered with solely the evidence of the virus itself. Which makes it very interesting the full-court press by the ‘world scientific community’ that this couldn’t possibly be from a lab.

  26. Virginia just became the 27th state to decriminalize or legalize marijuana.

    They didn’t get the message that weed causes COVID.

  27. Just because Reason claims that open borders had no impact on the spread of the disease or that engaging in “free” trade with mercantilist and authoritarian powers didn’t place a Sword of Damocles over the western world doesn’t make it true. But please, do your usual deflection rather than confront the reality that your libertine nihilism has been an utter failure.

    1. The facts don’t fit Reason’s narrative. Therefore, the facts much be wrong, because the narrative is never wrong.

      1. Proving their radical independence and maverick ideas by parroting NYT and WaPo fanfics.

        Hey, where’s junior Vox cubby Pete?

      2. You don’t need to read Reason nor hang out at the Reason website.

        1. And you don’t have to respond to comments on the Reason website either! Yet here you are embarrassing yourself.

    2. Did they in fact make this claim?

      1. More so than Trump “promising” to open up by Easter or that his tariffs “slowed down” the ability to respond to the pandemic.

      2. They did, in John’s head.

        1. This was in response to bs’s claim. Try harder.

    3. What open borders? You guys know we don’t have open borders, right? Words have meaning.

      1. Unless they don’t, in which case pointing out your lies is being pedantic, right Lying Jeffy?

        1. It’s funny how unaware you are. You know comment stalking makes you look desperate and pathetic, right?

          1. Only reading right-wing news sources, and hanging out in the comments section with nothing but a bunch of like-minded Trump fans, will tend to do that to one’s awareness.

            1. Looks like de espresso found a puppy

              1. I don’t know why I find the sock on sock comments so annoying.

                I guess lc1789 didn’t get the banhammer after all.

              2. It’s the same guy.

            2. What right wing news sources do I read?

              Oh that’s right, you’re just making up bullshit again.

          2. Is it stalking if I read all the other comments, and respond to some of them too? You just notice my responses to you because you are dishonest and I like to point it out. When you’re friend Mike Liarson was here I liked pointing out all his lies too.

  28. …suing in federal court over San Bernardino’s ban on non-virtual church services, violations of which could come with 90 days imprisonment or a $1,000 fine. The county has, however, already amended its order to allow in-person worship if churches “make every effort to prevent contact between congregants.”

    Virtually overturning the change table.

  29. Man, you’re really upsetting the fascists here…

    1. I’m sorry you’re so upset. Maybe you should take a little nap?

    2. You really need to invest in a dictionary. You use words you dont know the meaning to.

      1. Well that is a trademark of literal fascists.

    3. George Orwell wrote in 1944, “It will be seen that, as used, the word ‘Fascism’ is almost entirely meaningless. In conversation, of course, it is used even more wildly than in print. I have heard it applied to farmers, shopkeepers, Social Credit, corporal punishment, fox-hunting, bull-fighting, the 1922 Committee, the 1941 Committee, Kipling, Gandhi, Chiang Kai-Shek, homosexuality, Priestley’s broadcasts, Youth Hostels, astrology, women, dogs and I do not know what else.”

    4. They care more about one thing than anything else: Nobody should ever say anything bad about Dear Leader Trump.

      1. Your obsession with inaccurate generalizations is noted.

  30. There were multiple protests yesterday and more planned for this weekend to reopen the economy and stop the authoritarian lockdown.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/coronavirus-stay-at-home-orders-protests-economy

  31. “Last week, Trump told states they were on their own. Last night, he suggested “they can’t do anything without the approval of the president.”

    Trump was referring to state decisions whether to “open the economy” anytime soon, something his administration has been urging state leaders to do while simultaneously denying them access to critical supplies from the National Strategic Stockpile and sometimes seizing gear that states and hospitals managed to acquire on their own.”

    It’s almost like he’s insane!

    Either that or the people weaving the narrative are deranged in the same old way.

    I didn’t see what he said, but I’ve seen the news media report on what he’s said as if it were insane only to find that they were deranged so many times now. My first guess is that this is another case of them taking President Trump literally but not seriously, but I can hardly be bothered to look again.

    Fool me once, shame on you. Try to fool me every day for three and a half years, and you’re the one that’s deranged.

    P.S. Never cry shit-wolf.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB-v-er6DMk

    1. +1 Trailer Park Boys

    2. Are you taking the position that Trump is sane?

      1. I’m taking the position that you’re a moron.

    3. Did you really just write that you had not read Trump’s remarks, but you were going to assume they were reasonable simply because the media called them unreasonable?

      Usually you’re an intelligent guy, but that right there is cult member behavior.

      1. No, I said I can’t be bothered to go running to look at wolf-calls for the 1,278th time.

        3.5 years * 365 days per year = 1278 days of wolf-calls.

    4. You should watch it. Trump is not handling the pressure well, that is very clear. Oh, he also declares himself dictator.

      Also he made an actual sizzle reel of himself receiving loyalty statements from governors. –Which unintentionally backed up the NY Times story that criticized him to the point of, well to the point of making him make a sizzle reel.

      1. Was that the same “sizzle reel” where he showed his actions reacting to the virus next to “everybody” in the media and Democrats comments about it being nothing to worry about at the same time?

        1. Yeah, that one. If you care at all about fake news, you should look a couple of clips up for context. Much, much worse than anything you have accused the NY Times of doing.

          Trump was still downplaying the virus into march. You cultists usually let a few years pass before trying to go full on revisionist history.

          1. I remember seeing some of them, in context, at the time.

            “You cultists usually let a few years pass before trying to go full on revisionist history.”

            You just can’t help making up shit, Lying Jeffy.

    5. I’m waiting to see the actual unabridged quote before I pass judgment on what he said which means it will probably never see light of day like so many of his quotes that have been edited by the media

      1. You don’t think he actually “declares himself dictator” as Lying Jeffy just said?

      2. I might wait to see it in that if it passes my vision I couldn’t help but see it.

        I’m just not willing to go out of my way for click-bait anymore.

        This ain’t my first rodeo.

  32. “24% said they don’t expect to feel comfortable going back to a shopping mall for at least six months ”

    Is 24% over or under the percentage of people with an underlying condition that puts them at particular risk from the Boomer Doomer flu?

    1. How many of those 24% were going to shopping malls in the first place? I can’t remember the last time I went to a shopping mall. So, someone like me being in that 24% makes no difference. The opinion of the general population is not what matters. What matters is the opinion of the part of the population who before this were going to shopping malls. And the figure tells us nothing about that.

      1. Saw a funny meme on Fuckzuckbook this am of a before and after pic of some mall. They were both pictures of an empty mall.

        1. That is funny.

        2. By far the biggest impact to my local small town mall is that old people can’t walk in there in the morning anymore. I think there is one sporting goods store and one nail place that are still in there, and that’s it (the sporting goods store is open as far as I know). Otherwise it is only an exercise track for old people. The mall itself has had something of a resurgence in the past few years, but it has been exclusively by creating exterior storefronts. So basically turning a traditional mall into a large strip mall. Everything facing inside, except those two, is gone.

        3. The only reason to go to a mall is clothes shopping if you are a woman. There is too wide a discrepancy between brand sizing, style, and fit to easily buy things online. If they could ever figure out how to really solve that problem virtually, I would never go to the mall again.

    2. We should all stay home until everyone feels “safe”. EVERYONE!

      1. In Russia agoraphobia finds you.

    3. “24% said they don’t expect to feel comfortable going back to a shopping mall for at least six months”

      They’re doing a poll on the way people “expect to feel”–that means people get paid to do this?!

      1. “Sir, stop, sir, PLEASE stop laughing. Seriously, when do you expect to feel ….”

      2. The party of science.

  33. http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/04/does-liberalism-cause-mental-illness.php

    It has been claimed that left-wingers or liberals (US sense) tend to be more mentally ill than right-wingers or conservatives. This potential link was investigated using the General Social Survey. A search found 5 items measuring one’s own mental illness in different ways (e.g.”Do you have any emotional or mental disability?”). All of these items were associated with left-wing political ideology as measured by self-report. These results held up mostly in regressions that adjusted for age, sex, and race. For the variable with the most data, the difference in mental illness between “extremely liberal” and “extremely conservative” was 0.39 d. This finding is congruent with numerous findings based on related constructs.

    I think the causality goes both ways. Leftism attracts people who are a bit unbalanced and the nature of it also makes them more so. The entire ideology is based on its adherents being victims of historic forces and the exploitation of others. That is not a recipe for a healthy mind.

    1. We should start some sort of institution to give them the help they need, with special padded safe spaces, calming medicine, and self-hugging jackets

      1. It is mostly upper class white leftists who are nuts. Tell me this guy is sane.

        https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/liberal-media-scream-reporter-suggests-payback-for-trump-voters-now-your-loved-ones-can-die

        “Health workers are risking their lives daily. And to see him come out there and for 90 minutes, and two hours, sometimes, doing exactly what you said — he’s spinning a narrative. And the narrative is, ‘I didn’t do anything wrong. I was ahead of everybody. I was great! The federal government’s doing great work.’ And it’s an outrageous lie. But what’s worse is every minute he spends doing that, he is not getting respirators to hospitals, he’s not helping the states out with the kind of PPEs they need. People are dying because of his foolishness. It’s really foolishness at this point.

        “You know, America — you know, folks who loved him, fine. You voted for him. You stuck it to the elites for three years. But now your loved ones can die. The game’s over. This isn’t reality TV anymore. People are dying and this guy is acting a fool.”

        People like this guy are not just partisans playing for the camera. They really believe this. And that makes them mentally ill by any reasonable definition.

        1. I had a close and dear friend – a pant shitter (who loves Greta) – tell me I’d change my mind the second a ‘loved one would die’. They pull out all the emotional stops. This annoyed me because a) it presumes I’m unprincipled and that my ideas swing with both personal and social events and b) is an appeal to emotions and authority.

          This Tom Hanks Disease/Wuhan Flu is testing friendships.

          1. How broken do you have to be to think that your first reaction to a loved one dying must be to reflect on your politics.

            1. You have to be narcissistic to the point of being mentally ill. Clear though the 1990s, I thought Clinton was fucking up and not taking the threat of Bin Ladin and later the Taliban seriously enough and that if we were not lucky something awful was going to happen. I didn’t see 911 coming but I figured at some point if we kept screwing around and not doing anything they would eventually do something terrible to us. And sure enough they did. When 911 happened, I was shocked and pissed off beyond belief. I did not, however, think “this is what America gets for not listening to me”. And that is basically what this guy is saying. He is such a malignant narcissist, he is happy to see people die because he sees their death as some kind of personal vindication.

              Christ what an asshole.

          2. There are few things that annoy me more than the “if it happened to you, you would understand” argument. It is so insulting. People who have children love doing that. Try making a sane argument about age of consent or make any objection to whatever the “we must do this for the children” madness of the day is and some jackass will inevitably say “if you had children, you would understand and see it differently”. What? Would having a child make me stupid and emotional such that I can’t think rationally about certain issues? Really? How does that work? God I hate that .

            1. If you had kids you would understand…..that arguing with people like that is awesome when they can’t use that line against you. You just have to stop short of saying anything that might cause them to notify Social Services

              1. If a loved one died in a car crash, I wouldn’t demand automobiles be banned. If a loved one died on the organ transplant list, I wouldn’t demand people be forcibly stripped of internal organs.

              2. Not having children, the closest to that sort of moment I have ever had, was in a debate about forcing people to vaccinate their daughters against HPV. My mother died of cervical cancer caused by HPV. But like Ra’s al Gore, I think people should get their daughter’s vaccinated but I would never say they should be forced to. When I mentioned my mother had died of HPV caused cancer to someone who was claiming they should “for the children”, he lost his mind. It would have taken a heart of stone not to laugh.

            2. The left wants an emotionally and physically abusive relationship with the rest of us. They decide what we’re allowed to think. We have to walk on eggshells or face a tantrum. Our disagreement makes them angry so it is our fault if they hit us (see ‘antifa’ in Portland).

            3. A doctor friend once said during a gun control discussion that people who are against it would change their minds as soon as one of their own was gunned down.

              It was such a spectacularly shallow take I was blown away to the point of not going on.

              This doctor, surprise, is all for a complete shut down….even until a vaccine is found.

              smh.

              1. If I had a loved one gunned down, my reaction would be to think what a shame it was they were not armed and couldn’t fight back.

            4. My personal take is people resort to “if it happened to you you’d agree with me” when they know they’ve run out of arguments. When I was 13 I debated a friend of my grandmother’s about gun control. It was exceedingly clear that I knew the statistics and the way they were compiled far better, and had thought about the subject more than her. She eventually said “when you are older you’ll understand”, and I knew immediately I had won and she just didn’t want to admit it.

    2. Don’t forget the delusional conspiracy theories. Nope, Trump didn’t win in 2016 because they f’ed up and nominated the worst possible candidate in a way that alienated a big chunk of their base, and she then went on to run a horrible campaign. They’re the smart people; they can’t admit to doing something stupid; it must have been Teh Russians.

      1. And Obama didn’t fail to accomplish anything as President because he was a nasty, divisive asshole who refused to reason with or understand his opponents. No, it was because Republicans were racist and couldn’t accept a black President.

        To them nothing ever happens the way it seems. Nothing ever has a simple answer. No, everything is the result of unseen and unspoken forces working against the greater good.

    3. And rightism attracts? You said “both ways” but then you stopped at only criticizing the left.

      1. By both ways, I meant that leftism attracts people who are mentally ill and it makes otherwise sane people ill. So, the causality goes both ways. I didn’t mean it works the same with both sides of the political isle.

    4. I love when you guys decide studies have value.

      https://psmag.com/news/trumps-appeal-to-the-cognitively-challenged

      1. It is not a study. It is an exposition of known statistics. The fact is that leftist white people suffer from mental illness at a much higher rate than the general population or even minority leftists. That is a fact, not some dumb ass assertion like the “study” you like to.

        How we interpret the fact that leftist whites suffer from such a high rate of mental illness is debatable. What is not debatable is that they do. And indeed, everyone who pays attention to the political media has plenty of examples like the one I gave of the guy on CNN that support these statistics. You tell me, why are so many woke white people suffering from mental illness?

        1. What is debatable is why Trump supporters are such racist, dumb, narcissists.
          What isn’t debatable is that they are dumb, racist, narcissists.

          1. Did you actually read the research this article is referring to? Because the cite in the very first paragraph takes you to a pay site to read the actual research. You gonna try and tell us you payed the $37 to read it?

            https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/1948550618800494

            1. Disappointing. Often the authors will have a copy available at their faculty webpage. Not in this case.

      1. First cite for this one, definitely legit research on cognitive ability.

        https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/15564886.2019.1679308

      1. To summarize these 3 studies: Trump supporters are less intelligent, more racist, and more likely to score highly in measures of narcissism and anti-social disorder than the mean.

        1. Lol
          The insecurity of you bubble boys is astounding

        2. And white liberals are nuts. The statistics say that. What good does it do to have a high IQ when you suffer from mental illness? White liberals are mentally unbalanced. Indeed, even minority liberals can’t stand them. Hating woke white people is one of the few things that brings the nation together. It is funny as hell to hear you losers rant and rave without having any idea how much everyone else loathes you.

          1. I’m woke? I just said chinese nationals can get fucked. Pretty sure that alone would put me on the outs with the woke crowd. Well, that and killing all those brown people.

            Glad to see you are still around, in any case.

            1. Yes you are. You are a lying sack of shit prog here to troll the board and cause problems. Everyone knows that. Stop pretending they don’t.

      2. Lol.

        The first cite from this, not counting the link to Salon:

        https://electionstudies.org/data-center/

        If you feel like searching through that site to find the research, knock yourself out.

        1. So to summarize these two studies, and an article written by a “researcher and writer” and an “associate Professor of Political Science” in The Nation, you don’t actually read the research you cite and are a dishonest piece of shit.

          1. A report on the outcome of a fairly large voter survey is somehow partisan or untrustworthy for…reasons? Perhaps you have some specific criticism? No?

            The articles are written about studies done by others. And there were 3 studies.

            I notice there was no rush to criticize or “disprove” John’s link. It seems you guys have a bit of bias.

            1. Yes, I definitely have a bias when it comes to a post by John vs you. Because you lie repeatedly, and I’ve never known John to lie.

              By the time I’d clicked several of your links and found nothing but a pay site and other bullshit, I’m not gonna keep clicking through to more links.

              You didn’t answer my question about paying for the very first cite. Wonder why?

  34. If there’s a possible way to make state leaders Trump look unpreparedbad, TrumpReason seems willing to take it regardless of the potential cost in American lives.

    FTFY

  35. Donald Trump absolutely lit up his own Coronavirus Task Force press briefing with a more than six-minute, tour-de-force media takedown that had CNN and MSNBC sputtering and reaching for the plug.

    Trump said hello and turned the media briefing over to the NIH’s Dr. Anthony Fauci to clarify his words uttered on CNN on shutting down the country earlier to prevent more deaths.

    Then, Trump took over and it was ON. He listed the timeline of his response to the coronavirus and presented a video of incorrect statements by the press on COVID-19.

    1. You can tell these press conferences are going badly for the President’s opponents and well for him because the media is demanding he stop doing them. If they were hurting him, the media wouldn’t want them stopped.

    2. That was hilarious yesterday. Put a gas bomb to let the gaslighting explode.

    3. How dare he?

    4. He’s so dreamy. Never mind that he is unfamiliar with the Constitution of the United States of America.

    5. It’s like you perceive the exact opposite of truth at all times. The brainwashing is very strong in this one.

      Faucci was obviously “asked” to do that. His back peddle was so tortured: “When I said there was push back, I didn’t mean that..I meant there were questions…”

      And his timeline had a 1 month gap in action whatsoever from him. A point which when asked about it, he freaked out and called the female reporter “nasty”. This was a huge Trump fail, again.

      He also declared himself dictator, and when asked to elaborate, he freaked out again and refused to name his specific authority or constitutional duty.

      Trump keeps pointing to him closing trvale from China as some major accomplishment. 40,000 people came from china after his “ban”. 3 major airlines had quit all flights to and from china well before Trump’s declaration. He’s a conman dancing on a stage, unable to answer a single question specifically. Unable to face the slightest criticism.

      The trump quote that will survive this episode in history will be, “I don’t take responsibility at all.” Perhaps montaged with, “I HAVE TOTAL AUTHORITY!”

      1. Death estimates down form 2 million to 60,000.
        Mission accomplished!

        1. And we still have 40,000 more deaths to go! Quite a lot of wiggle room, brought to you by the smartest people in the world!

      2. “It’s like you perceive the exact opposite of truth at all times”

        “Faucci was obviously “asked” to do that.”

        Poor Lying Jeffy doesn’t know the difference between truth and opinion.

  36. Amash is correct, but as I said yesterday, I don’t believe that states can supersede the entire United States Constitution, and especially the bill of rights.

    At some point soon, if they don’t relent Trump might have to sue a few of these governors and request an emergency session of the United States Supreme Court so that they can intervene on behalf of the citizens who have had our rights taken away on a highly dubious basis.

    1. The states cannot suspend the Constitution. But, they do have general police power and that gives them the power to do a lot of things, including restrict people’s constitutional rights provided the state actions are narrowly tailored to serve a compelling state interest. The problem for the states is that at some point these measures will have gone on so long and become so broad they will no longer meet the strict scrutiny test even with the enormous of deference courts give to states during public emergencies.

      1. And what happens when they apply those restrictions arbitrarily? Well that’s different because clearly elective procedures like abortion are essential unlike enumerated rights like 2A.

        1. They’re trying to orchestrate it to be able to come to a conclusion that it’s all Trump’s fault. Problem is, a good number of these states lean blue already, so it won’t amount to anything of substance.

      2. I think with some of the recent actions, certain states have opened the door (further than it already was) to legal challenges. Particularly the church crackdowns (in the bible belt of all places!) and shit like Whitmer telling stores what they can and can’t advertise. That is encroaching on some serious constitutional shit there, for no real compelling reason. I have felt from the beginning that lots of states have avoided shutting down gun stores and related businesses not because they don’t want to (a lot would LOVE TO) but because that is such a hot button issue that it would invite a flurry of potentially precedent-setting lawsuits that could dramatically impact their ability to not only shut down gun shops but to take many of the other recent actions in the future. Going out of your way to target worshipers, even when significant actions have been taken to minimize contact, and telling businesses what they can and can’t decide to publish might be going far enough to have similar effect. Unfortunately it probably won’t be anything that can help us this time around, but post-apocalypse court rulings resulting from this might end up better defining and restricting the types and scopes of actions that can be taken in the future.

    2. “Dictator (literally Hitler) Trump orders federal government to go to court to sue state governors who have put their entire populations on house arrest”
      “What an authoritarian!”

      1. Filling in huge gaps in what Trump actually said to make it sound better, to make yourself feel better.

        1. Nardz: “When Trump said, ‘I have total authority,’ he meant he would sue states in court on behalf of the citizenry. Now if Obama had said the same thing, I’d be stuffing copies of my manifesto into mailboxes and charging up my combat rascal.”

          1. Lol
            Who hurt you?

            It’s not your fault.

            It’s not your fault.

            It’s not your fault.

            (I mean, it is, but sometimes it’s more therapeutic to lie)

            1. So you have no rebuttal and have descended into nonsense? This is sad. I expected insults, but not this.

              1. It’s all he’s got.

              2. I’m going to rebut your imagination?
                This is why people call you pedo jeffy

  37. Crisis brings out the best in some and the worst in others. Just not sure who is whom and which is which right now. Maybe the smoke from the strawmen being burned by all sides is obscuring the view?

  38. AP just heard about an interesting story; have you heard about it?

    “Former Senate staffer accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault. His campaign says ‘it did not happen’ ”
    https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-04-13/former-senate-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault

    Gee, how could AP have heard about this? I mean it’s been totes a secret, right?

    1. It is just a local story Sevo. It is old news. It is nothing anyone would be interested in hearing about. The AP covers stories of national interest like what beer parties Brett Kavenaugh attended in high school or how Mitt Romney may have made fun of someone in the 8th grade.

  39. Is anyone else sick of seeing the “US COVID DEATHS HAVE SURPASSED ITALY!!!!!!1111” headlines everywhere? Sure, because we are still just going to assume that China’s statistics are true and they handled it so much better than everyone else.

    1. Might have something to do with this:
      Italy 2020 population is estimated at 60,461,826.
      US 2020 population is estimated at 328,877,386

      1. Irrelevant. We have more deaths = Trump something something

      2. I’m almost certain Italy are jamming up the fatalities figures.

        1. We certainly are.

    2. China’s statistic are totally true and the deaths in a country of 330 million can be compared on a one to one basis with the deaths in a nation of 60 million.

      This is what the media seems to actually believe.

      1. China’s statistics are true and Trump is sneaking into hospitals to steal respirators from sick old ladies

        1. And fondling them on the way out!
          No, wait. That would be Joe.

        2. And then giving them medicine that doesn’t work and actually kills them. Don’t forget that.

          1. that he stole from Lupus patients, who are somehow unaffected by the side effects

  40. “Wash your hands practice social distancing wear your masks support local and indy businesses avoid Trump pressers catch up on the latest season of Westworld that is all
    — Jen Monroe ???????? ???? (@jenniferm_q) April 14, 2020”

    By all means, make sure to nourish your TDS!

    1. Wear masks? What masks? In my state, wearing a mask if you are over 14 is a crime. (make up not included)

    2. How do you support businesses that are closed?

      1. Break in and steal everything so they can file an insurance claim?

        1. By breaking the window, you’re supporting the local, indy glazier! That’s ‘business’ to a proggy!

  41. Trump Campaign Actually Sues TV Station Over Anti-Trump Ad

    Anyone remember when Hilary Clinton sued to keep an anti-Hilary ad from being shown? its ironic that apparently now the left doesn’t want to see Citizens United overturned

  42. I see the virus accelerating some trends that were already happening. Roku sales are through the roof over the last month, which will put more and more pressure on cable. Meanwhile, as people’s viewing experience at home continues to improve, it makes them less likely to go see the event in person. A Sunday Ticket subscription via the Roku app can cost less than taking the whole family to a couple of games and gigantic quality TVs are cheap AF.

    The reason the NFL players agreed to a new contract was because they’re afraid this may be the last time the cable and broadcast networks will pay through the nose for broadcasting rights–and they didn’t want an NFL-player strike to delay those negotiations for fear this is the season that people stop watching through local broadcasting en masse. The NHL already has a discount package for streamers who only want to watch their favorite team–and that’s where we’re headed.

    The broadcasters pay through the nose for the rights to NFL games because it’s one of the few things people will only watch live, but their grip is slipping. I get my local broadcast games for free through an antenna and an app (Tablo) on my Roku, and neither the broadcaster nor the cable company gets a penny in subscription money from me for that.

    Same thing with the movie experience. I understand there were 5 million Roku unit sales over the last six weeks? A week after a movie leaves the theater, you can rent it via Vudu for a few bucks–like a quarter of the cost of going to a standard movie theater. You don’t have to pay $10 for popcorn and a drink either. There will still be those plush theaters where you reserve your seats, they’re comfy AF, and a waiter brings food to your seat. But standard old-school movie theaters have no future. This is creative destruction by other means–it’s just accelerating an already existing trend that was replacing the neighborhood movie theater anyway. And bailing out these buggy whip manufacturers should be opposed for all the same reasons we would oppose it if the cause were creative destruction proper.

    1. At some point, things will return to normal and people will go back to doing the things they enjoy. To the extent that this will accelerate the trends you describe, it won’t be because people are afraid of getting the latest strain of bat soup fever coming out of China. It will because people realize they don’t miss something as much as they thought they would and thus don’t go back to doing it.

      Some of that will happen for sure. But some other people will suddenly really miss these things and want them even more after being deprived of them. For example, I had gotten really tired of eating out before this happened. Needless to say, I am a lot less tired of eating out now than I was a month ago. So, I will probably go out and eat more than I otherwise would have when this all ends, at least for a while. I think the same will be true for a lot of people for things like movies and live sports. I have to admit, going to a major league baseball game in person sounds pretty good right now. And despite the fact that I usually go once or twice a year, I hadn’t gone the last couple of years.

      1. “It won’t be because people are afraid of getting the latest strain of bat soup fever coming out of China. It will because people realize they don’t miss something as much as they thought they would and thus don’t go back to doing it.”

        It’s also finance driven.

        The local movie theater can’t survive having no revenue for three months with which to pay their rent to the otherwise empty mall, service their debt, and cover their insurance costs, etc. Their existing lenders are afraid they’ll go bankrupt and leave them owning a bunch of useless real estate in an empty mall. If new lenders come in to save the business, what does AMC Theaters use as collateral? The last thing banks want is shopping mall real estate–that’s a toxic asset. That will kill the bank’s balance sheet and their ability to lend money.

        When it comes to justifying bailouts, we’re talking about why the government should step in and finance these businesses when the markets refuse to do so. Sometimes the reason the markets won’t finance these businesses is because they’re such lost causes that their assets aren’t worth repossessing and the lender would abandon them if they were forced to take them. In Detroit, I understand, for a long time, the fire department wouldn’t put out a fire in an in an industrial warehouse building unless they could confirm it was occupied first. Those buildings are worth less than the cost of spraying water on them, much less the cost of destroying them. If banks won’t finance companies with those assets, that’s smart. If the government forces taxpayers to finance companies with assets like that, that’s stupid.

        Not all of these hurting businesses are bad in the same way for the same reasons. The airlines, cruise industry, etc. will almost certainly come back when their customers do, and they have legitimately valuable assets underlying their businesses in airplanes, cruise ships, hotels, etc. AMC Theaters’ assets may be more like those warehouses in Detroit. I’m opposed to bailing them all out.

        There is plenty of cash on the sidelines right now, and those with assets that can come back will need to make concessions to lenders and investors for financing, but those with legitimately valuable assets will eventually find uses for them–even if it’s through bankruptcy court. On the other hand, the government shouldn’t rush the taxpayers in where lenders fear to tread. Regardless, it isn’t just about the customers coming back. It’s also about lenders cutting these businesses off.

        1. So the local movie theater goes bankrupt. If there is a demand to see movies in theaters, what do you think is going to happen Ken? Do you think they will just tear it down or will someone else buy the theater in bankruptcy and reopen it?

          Furthermore, nearly all of the theaters are owned by a few very large corporations. If AMC or Landmark go into bankruptcy, it will likely be Chapter 11 reorganization. Even if it were Chapter 7 liquidation, someone will buy the theaters and reopen them because there will be a demand for them.

          I am sort of at a loss for what you are claiming here. Do you really think movie theaters will all go out of business and just never re-open? If you do, you have lost your mind.

          1. Not to speak for Ken, but he said he was opposing to the government bailing them out.

          2. “I am sort of at a loss for what you are claiming here. Do you really think movie theaters will all go out of business and just never re-open? If you do, you have lost your mind.”

            I’ve actually been following the negotiations between AMC and their lenders closely. Their lenders will do everything they can to keep AMC afloat. In fact, AMC can use bankruptcy as a threat to its lenders–because the last thing their lenders want is to end up holding a bunch of toxic assets like empty theaters in empty malls.

            AMC wants its business to survive. The lenders want the business to survive. If anyone can come up with an arrangement that makes sense, it’s the people who have a stake in the making the business succeed–which is exactly what being a manager, an owner, or a lender is.

            If there are enough customers that are willing to come back to justify what it takes to keep the business going, then that business will keep going. Sometimes a business isn’t viable because there aren’t enough customers who are willing to lay their money down at the prices that are necessary to keep that business going. And sometimes a business isn’t viable because the amount of finance necessary isn’t available.

            If finance people think your prospects of success are insufficient compared to other opportunities, then that’s as valid a reason to close your business as not enough customers willing to pay high enough prices. If there is more than enough financing to turn those malls into mixed use, office, retail, and residential developments, then maybe that AMC theaters should be repurposed as residential lofts.

            1. Movie theaters were already not going great, generally. At this point in time they’re an outlet to see Disney films, and not much else. Turns out, everyone having a cheap wide-screen TV has ripple effects for going to see a movie with 30-100 random strangers.

              Disney has their thumb on every movie chain, and pretty much everyone knows it by now. Their business model is on the ropes even without the pandemic scare.

              1. Exactly.

                Which isn’t to say that there aren’t people out there who still think it’s fun to go to the movies and will still go, or that there aren’t enough people like that to support a movie chain.

                It just means that this isn’t an area where the taxpayers need to get involved. There is more cash than good investments in this world–which is one reason why the ten year treasury is currently yielding 0.76%. If your business model can’t entice investors to come off the sidelines when the yield is that low, then your business model may not be viable. That’s certainly no reason to put the taxpayer on the hook.

    2. “The reason the NFL players agreed to a new contract was because they’re afraid this may be the last time the cable and broadcast networks will pay through the nose for broadcasting rights–and they didn’t want an NFL-player strike to delay those negotiations for fear this is the season that people stop watching through local broadcasting en masse.”

      Umm… no.
      They signed the new CBA because the average career of an NFL player lasts just 2.5 years, 90% of the players union makes league minimum, they increased that minimum by $100k (up to a 20% raise for many), and they decreased offseason work.
      They won’t strike because they make good money, their career windows are too brief, and they will be replaced.
      Networks were all set to pay huge in the next deal prior to the covid.
      CBS just gave Tony Romo a $17 million/year deal.
      Sorry, but your hobby horse had almost (and I’m being generous there) nothing whatsoever to do with the NFLPA voting (by a slim margin) to sign the new CBA

      1. ^^THIS^^

        They owners finally got smart and realized that the interests of the rank file NFL players were different than the stars and their agents. The current CBA gave benefits to rank and file players largely at the expense of the stars. The rank and file are the majority.

        1. I appreciate that there was more than one consideration, but the primary reason the members came together was because they were worried about the expiring television contracts. Much of the players’ salaries is about taking a share of those contracts. The rights to broadcast games has been the goose that laid the golden eggs for both the owners and the players since free agency became a thing, and they need to negotiate those broadcast contracts now–before traditional viewership falls through the floor.

          1. The NFL felt increasing pressure during CBA negotiations with players to get a deal done, so the league could move forward into negotiating new media contracts. If a CBA wasn’t reached and football was now at risk of a lockout in 2021, league executives feared it could hurt ratings and reduce their leverage in negotiating with networks.”

            https://sportsnaut.com/2020/03/report-nfl-to-begin-negotiating-new-media-deals-could-be-finalized-by-end-of-year/

            1. “The NFL felt increasing pressure during CBA negotiations with players to get a deal done”

              Yes – THE NFL – wanted to get a new TV deal done fast.
              The NFLPA was only concerned with the prospect of a new TV deal as regards revenue split (they wanted 50% to players, settled for 47 or 48%) and its effect on the salary cap.
              The desire for a new broadcast deal gave leverage to the NFLPA… the exact opposite of what you asserted.

              1. The point is that 47% of a bigger contract that the NFL negotiates with the broadcasters is more important than whatever they would get with a strike. The players backed the deal because they didn’t want a strike to interfere with NFL’s negotiations with the networks for those contracts. And those contracts are likely to be the last of their kind. As the networks become starved for cash by cord cutters, they will have less cash to bid on NFL contracts in the future. As more people cut the cord, the value of those broadcast contracts diminishes. Why wouldn’t depriving the bidders of revenue through cord cutting diminish the bidding price of those contracts?

                1. “The players backed the deal because they didn’t want a strike to interfere with NFL’s negotiations with the networks for those contracts.”

                  You’re just wildly off with this.
                  The players didn’t want a strike to interfere with them being employed and earning a relatively lucrative income.
                  I would bet money that at no NFLPA meeting was concern voiced that a strike would fuck up broadcast contracts (except, possibly, as a way FOR the NFLPA to exert leverage).
                  The players didn’t want to interfere with their careers – period. Contracts between the NFL and broadcasters are neither their field nor their concern. Bigger contract better than smaller, but determining or negotiating that isn’t their business.
                  The League wanted to do a deal now so they could move forward with broadcast negotiations. The players approved a deal now because it was good enough for a majority, and if they had voted it down the League would play hardball and the prospects of future offers would be lesser than the one they had now.
                  At no point did any player think “I’m going to vote for this deal because if I don’t it will mess up League negotiations with broadcasters.”

                  1. You’re an idiot.

                    1. You’re saying that current trends in media consumption will lead to decreasing revenue for the NFL’s broadcast partners
                      – ok, plausible theory that’s outside my scope here

                      And that a player strike would interfere with the negotiations between the NFL and broadcasters for the rights to their product
                      – this is true

                      And that the prospect of a new broadcast deal created incentive to sign a new CBA
                      – correct

                      And this was the players’ primary motivation in signing the CBA now…
                      – wrong
                      – just way, way, way off

                    2. You’re misplacing the influence of broadcast negotiations.
                      It motivated the owners to move things forward on the new CBA, perhaps to offer a deal good enough to convince the players to sign, not the players.

          2. They were offered a higher share of the revenue, higher minimum salaries and more roster spots in return for a 17th game. The stars didn’t want the 17th game. It wasn’t going to increase their salaries and just meant they had to play more and have shorter carreers. The rank and file carreers are short anyway. So, the 17th game didn’t bother them. And the extra roster spots and higher minimum salaries meant a lot to them but nothing to the stars.

            All of the stars voted against it. It passed because the rank and file saw the benefits of it. If it were about the TV contract, the stars would have been for it as well. But they were not. And many were vocally against it.

          3. “NFL owners and the NFL Players Association are likely nearing a collective bargaining agreement after owners approved the terms Thursday. Media companies and the NFL have been waiting for the CBA’s approval before negotiating new broadcast rights for NFL games, which are locked up until 2022.”

            https://www.cnbc.com/2020/02/22/nfl-tv-rights-up-for-renewal-in-2022-and-big-media-will-pay-more.html

            The last thing they wanted was a strike with not CBA just as they were negotiating broadcasting rights, and by 2032, the NFL may be reduced to selling subscriptions individually through their app.

            Philo, Sling, and other streaming services don’t carry ESPN. They won’t have the revenue they used to have to pay for NFL contracts ten years from now. They’re not getting any money from me anymore. Same thing with ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox. When people like me cut the cord and stop using cable, we get those local channels with an antenna plugged into our wireless network for free. But a fat chunk of the money ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox get comes from the fact that the government requires your local cable company to carry their signals and pay them for the privilege. When people stop using cable to watch those channels, those broadcasters no longer get those fees.

            It’s a fat chunk of their revenue, and that revenue is going away as more and more people cut the cord and use streaming services and rediscover antennas, and as they continue to lose revenue over the coming years, they will have less money to offer the NFL for the broadcast rights to NFL games. And that is why the upcoming negotiations are so important to the NFL. It’s important to the owners to get their share of those broadcast contracts, and it’s in the best interests of the players, too.

            1. P.S. Realize that ABC, CBS, NBC, and Fox are required to broadcast their signals for free in exchange for free spectrum. The requirement to broadcast their signals for free is within their FCC license. If they ever stop broadcasting their signal for free, the FCC will seize their spectrum and auction it off. They’re trying to launch competitive streaming apps and services to head off that eventuality. It’s also why they’re willing to pay so much for the NFL contract–to stay relevant in the meantime.

            2. “It’s important to the owners to get their share of those broadcast contracts, and it’s in the best interests of the players, too.”

              Is a far cry from

              “The reason the NFL players agreed to a new contract was because they’re afraid this may be the last time the cable and broadcast networks will pay through the nose for broadcasting rights–and they didn’t want an NFL-player strike to delay those negotiations for fear this is the season that people stop watching through local broadcasting en masse”
              and
              “I appreciate that there was more than one consideration, but the primary reason the members came together was because they were worried about the expiring television contracts”

    3. A couple of years ago, Comcast tacked on a fee for rebroadcasting local OTA channels. They also added a fee for local sports whether you watch or not. I had expected some sort of class action suit but none came up. I also wonder how they can have such wide discrepancy in billing. New users have been offered cable and internet for $70 a month for a two year contract, less that half of what their long term customers pay.
      I watch all tv though a connected antenna, no streaming , no cable. I’ve noticed some broadcasters are giving up and selling their bandwidth to, I assume, streaming and wifi companies. Look for free tv to go the way of the dodos.

      1. The future is free TV through streaming.

        Go look at Pluto, Tubi, Vudu, and Xumo. They’ve all been bought out by big players because they were kicking ass.

        Look them up on their Wiki if need be. Roku offers hundreds of free options–including the ability to stream your broadcast antenna.

  43. Trump essentially declares himself a dictator. Claims he has total authority. His words. Quote: “It’s total. It’s total.”

    So I was wondering how the Trump base would respond to this on Reason. How would they twist his words so they could still pretend nothing was wrong. Funny thing, they basically ignore what he said and just blame everyone else for not being Trump. Blame ENB for the treason of actually reporting on what Trump said.

    It’s a massive blind spot in their brain. Trump could literally murder an old lady in Times Square and they would even blink. He could break into their homes and rape their kittens and they would see nothing wrong.

    I get it, Hillary was bad. Hillary could have been worse. But that does NOT mean Trump is reflection of God Himself, without stain or sin, utterly perfect. He declared himself dictator yesterday, and none of his supporters see anything at all wrong about it.

    1. “Waaaaaaah!”
      You might be the least insightful person alive, brandy

      1. So you have no response to the president declaring himself dictator? That is what happened.

        1. Sure.
          Great rhetorical move.
          Yall are now on the side of supporting mass house arrest and the forcible closure of businesses… to oppose “tyranny”
          Good job.
          Yall are playing this one really well

          1. Does the president have total authority, or not? Seems simple, yet none of you cultists want to answer.

            1. Thats not for me to decide, but I’ve heard both sides of the argument make compelling points.
              I was initially inclined to think that it was State domain, but I don’t know that the States have the authority to do what they’re doing in the first place.
              If the state of Washington passed a bill mandating slavery for x persons, would POTUS have the authority to intervene?

              1. Hahaha. “It’s complicated.”

                No, it’s not. The pres has 0 authority to compel governors to use police powers in any way, or to force people/companies back to work. ZERO.

                1. “It’s complicated.”

                  Here’s Lying Jeffy making up shit again.

                  Does the President have the authority to compel governors to NOT use police powers to violate people’s rights, as he clearly just brought up? Or was the fact that his post was too complicated for you to understand the reason you ignored that part?

                  Or were you just being a dishonest piece of shit, again? Yeah, the second option.

    2. 3 things wrong here:

      1) ENB doesn’t report, she editorializes
      2) You’re picking out every 5th word the President says
      3) Every time I see Brandybuck, I am reminded of the SNL Jeopardy sketch where Sean Connery exclaims, “Buck Futter!”

      1. Say it, trebek!

      2. “…2) You’re picking out every 5th word the President says”

        TDS victims have a hard time reading; ‘getting’ every 5th word means a ‘participation’ trophy in reading comprehension.

        1. I wouldn’t even call them victims…it’s willful.

      3. It’s not every fifth word, you fucknut. I quote four words together, that were originally uttered together in the same sequence.

        The entire statement is online for you to see. Claiming it didn’t happen is bullshit. We have recordings of what he actually said. We have witnesses who heard it broadcast live. We have actual witnesses who were on the scene hearing it live. You cannot claim we are making up the words. He actually declared he has total authority over everything.

        He may not have meant what he said, but he sure as fuck said it!

        1. President Trump on Monday claimed “total authority” over when and how to ease restrictions aimed at fighting the coronavirus outbreak.

          Trump’s statement came hours after coalitions of governors on both coasts announced regional plans for reopening their states.

          “When somebody is president of the United States, the authority is total. The governors know that,” Trump said during the White House coronavirus briefing, when asked about the governors’ plans.

          “You have a couple bands of Democratic governors, but they will agree to it,” Trump continued. “They will agree to it. But the authority of the president of the United States, having to do with the subject we’re talking about, is total.”

          You mean these words, that he exactly said? The FACT that you’re taking them out of context, and not 4 in a sentence, tells everyone you suck at comprehension. You suck at life as well.

        2. Well, we have now reached the nadir.

          Someone reports on a direct Trump quote.
          John comes in, sneaks in a quick post about how bad the effects of Covid really are (while allowing Nardz and JesseAZ to continue claiming it’s no worse than flu without pushback), and quickly drops that to move on to claiming that literally anyone who doesn’t support Trump is scientifically speaking, mentally ill. Oh, and that he couldn’t possibly learn anything from people who have children about what it’s like to have children. Because he is of course 100% rational and devoid of emotion, as are all Top Men.

          All of a sudden the “great” Ken Shultz uses his otherworldy linguistic abuilities to write like 6 pages of prose about…the NFL contracts and draft prospects…but of course he can’t be bothered to go watch what Trump said or address DOL’s question because his great mind is not to be troubled by the concerns of the unwashed. Too bad Ken can’t find time to answer one question or watch a 5-minute thing, because he is just SO SMART that everyone here has to wait with baited breath for his next masterpiece. It definitely doesn’t have to do with his bias or anything, and I am quite sure that if Obama said the same thing he would have an equally hard time finding the time to watch or opine on it because once confronted with a direct quote and a question about it (which I’m sure he’ll be long soon to refute as being “beneath his abilities as a writer to bother with”) he naturally had to shift focus to the NFL for 6 posts.

          At least I found out John and I have one thing in common…we both miss baseball.

          1. You seem butthurt

    3. Oh Dear! When the SS comes and kicks down your door I promise I will give a fuck.
      In fact I’ll give it now.

      fuck

  44. The biggest controversy in Washington, right now, isn’t about whether to open the economy for business again, whether Trump is in charge of the states, or even if it’s time to start thinking about opening the economy up–given that the virus is still spreading. The biggest controversy in Washington right now is what to do with the second pick.

    People have broken into three camps:

    1) Take Chase Young.
    2) Take Tua Tagovailoa
    3) Trade Down

    I disagree with this division of the options.

    I mean, the Tua Tagovailoa option is one thing if you’re planning to do what Jimmy Johnson did when he drafted Steve Walsh after having Troy Aikman. You let them play it out to see who develops and trade the loser. I don’t believe in that. I think Haskins is a legit talent who just needs time to develop.I still think we should draft Tua Tagovailoa rather than Chase Young, however, but that’s because I want to trade down.

    in other words, Miami, who wants Tua and has three (3) first round picks, won’t take our threat to draft Tua seriously before we make our second pick. Why would they trade us three first round picks when everyone thinks we’re taking Chase Young–unless we actually draft Tua with the second pick? This isn’t unprecedented. People seem to have forgotten that Eli Manning was drafted by the San Diego Chargers and traded to the Giants during the draft.

    When you’re just threatening to do something, people don’t take you seriously. Threatening to draft Tua if Miami doesn’t give you all three of their first round picks is like mom threatening to come down hard on you if you don’t clean up your room. You don’t pay any attention to her because she’s just making threats–and threats are just words. When dad tells you to clean your room, you just do it–because he doesn’t make threats. He just comes down hard when you don’t do what you’re supposed to do. Taking Tua Tagovailoa with the second pick is like dad coming home.

    The Redskins have huge gaping holes at cornerback, on the offensive line, at wide receiver, and at tight end. If we take Chase Young, we don’t address any of those needs until the third round because we don’t have a second round pick–which means only one of those areas gets addressed with a starter–and that probably means at tight end. If we take Tua and get stuck with him because Miami won’t play ball, then between Tua and Haskins, a franchise QB will probably pan out between the two of them–something we haven’t really had since Mark Rypien. If we get Tua, however, Miami will probably give us all three of their first round draft picks for him.

    Point is, taking Tua and drafting down isn’t necessarily two different options. They could be the same thing.

    1. Tua will bust.
      Brittle ankles.
      Haskins has more potential, just needs a good QB coach to clean up his mechanics.
      Miami isn’t going to give up 3 1st rounders for Tua, thats just crazy talk. Cam Newton and Jameis Winston are still free agents. Andy Dalton still hasn’t been traded. Next year’s draft has 2 vastly superior prospects (Trevor Lawrence, Justin Fields). There is a bit of a QB glut right now.
      Miami should take neither Tua nor Herbert, but run it back with Fitzmagic and draft someone Jalen Hurts or Jake Fromm in a later round (they’d also be smart to call up Jacksonville and see about swapping #5 for #9+Ngakoue, who they would have a year to convince to resign).
      Never take a QB you don’t absolutely love with a high pick just because you have a high pick and conventional wisdom says to just take a QB.
      That being said, Tua makes sense for the Chargers at #6. He’s Hawaiian, which should help in LA, and they need something to get fans.
      If I’m Redskins GM, this is my move:
      I call Detroit and see what they’d offer to swap #2 for #3. Detroit has needed a pass rusher for forever, and the Skins are loaded on the defensive line (Sweat, Payne, Allen) already. Maybe I can pick up a mid round pick + Detroit’s second TE, Jesse James, to fill a need with a solid player. Then, at #3 I’m taking Isaiah Simmons, who’s every bit as good a prospect as Young. Rivera gets his new Kuechley and has the perfect mentor – Thomas Davis (a college safety at UGA turned pro linebacker in Carolina) – on the roster.

      Now, if anyone knows how to get a job in an NFL front office, give me a heads up

      1. “Now, if anyone knows how to get a job in an NFL front office, give me a heads up.”

        What you’ve written sounds better than any possible logic that Bill O’Brien’s been using to justify his decisions. I’d take GM Nardz over what the Texans have now.

        1. Please write them.
          After he’s fired, I’d be happy to take a job there

    2. Chase Young is the best edge rushing prospect maybe since Lawrence Taylor. Young’s teammate two years ago at Ohio State, Nick Bosa had the best year a rookie pass rusher has had this century. And the consensus at Ohio State is that Young is significantly better than even Bosa. Bosa is incredibly skilled for a player as young as he is. But Young is just as skilled and a stronger and better athlete.

      So, Young is as much of a sure thing as you can get. That said, had Tua not gotten hurt, he would be the number 1 pick hands down over the kid from LSU. So, if Tua is healthy or you are sure he will be healthy again, how is Tua not still the number 1 pick? Who cares if he has to sit out a year. Do you think the people in Kansas City give a damn that Mahomes had to play behind Smith for a year? I don’t think so.

      It really comes down to what you think of Dwayne Haskins. As great as Chase Young is (and he is a better LB prospect than any of the QBs are QB prospects), you have to have a quarterback. If you think Haskins is a no kidding franchise QB, then you take Young. I wouldn’t trade down. The extra picks are nice, but I would rather have a sure thing star over the extra picks. Young is a once in a generation defensive prospect. You don’t trade that for a bag of “this could be your lucky day” picks.

      If, however, you don’t think Haskins is your guy, then you take Tua, assuming you actually think he is a top fligh QB prospect. QB is too important to pass on a good one if you don’t already have one.

      1. I’ll need to see sources that say Young is a better prospect than either Bosa.
        And Young is a straight defensive end. If you try to play him standing up at edge LB, you’re not utilizing him optimally.
        Isaiah Simmons is just as good as Young, but a completely different (and more needed) player.
        The Redskins have Kerrigan + 3 1st round picks (still on their rookie deals) on the defensive line. How much of your resources do you want to spend there? Ok, so Kerrigan leaves next year and you have an all-1st-round-picks defensive line of Young, Sweat, Allen, and Payne.
        Yea, that’s formidable. But who do you have at LB? DB?
        Look what the 49ers just had to do: they had their all-1st-round-picks DL (Bosa, Thomas, Armistead, Buckner) and it worked out – but they invested in Alexander at linebacker and were gifted Sherman at corner. They also drafted really well at those spots. But, they had to choose between Buckner and Armistead, because they couldn’t afford both, so had to trade Buckner.
        By drafting Young, you’ve basically committed to losing either Allen or Payne. That’s fine, though I don’t see the Redskins front office handling it as well as SF’s did.
        Young is a great prospect, and picking him would not be a mistake. I just think Simmons is as good or better, and adds more for Washington than Young does.

        1. IT is not even close. And Young has better measurables than either Bosa. Go back and watch the Ohio State games. Young was unblockable. Bosa was good but not that good. Young can just overwhelm guys in a way Bosa can’t and never will. Young has genes neither Bosa brother does.

          1. Yes, Young was unblockable against Wisconsin. That game was amazing. And he had 12 sacks in 12 other games, definitely not trying to take anything away from him.
            He’s an elite prospect, and I was pissed every time the falcons won a game (after starting 1-7) because they were just screwing the silver lining of their garbage season by taking themselves out of position to get Young.
            But Simmons is an elite prospect too.
            Neither Bosa tests out particularly well, but their instinct to get to the QB was undeniable.
            Young should be a stud, but I just don’t think he’s a better prospect than those guys.
            All elite

            1. Side note
              Joey Bosa always seemed really, really dumb to me.
              Maybe it’s just his look.
              But I saw a segment with him talking about pass rushing moves, and he’s surprisingly thoughtful.
              Impressive

      2. Without the injuries, Tua’s inevitability is still debatable.
        Joe Burrow had probably the best season a college QB has ever had, and showed so much of what you want in a pro QB. Picking between the two would be tough, but I think there are plenty who’d favor Burrow.
        Tua would still be a lesser prospect than Lawrence.
        But it’s a moot point. The durability concern with Tua is real. Just as some people have bigger or faster bodies, some people have more or less durable bodies than others.
        I fear Tua’s career path will be more like RG3’s, less like Drew Brees

        1. >>Tua’s inevitability is still debatable.

          I also agree with this. Fra-gee-lay (I think it’s Italian).

          1. Broken knees, ankles, heads: those I understand as a risk of playing professional football. Breaking your hip? It would be a bit concerning.

            How are Burrow, Tag, Haskins at performing that staple NFL throw that often weeds out the great-in-college guys from the League studs: the 10 to 15 yard out? Where the QB typically has to’ throw the guy open’, often through a fairly small window?

            Do that quickly and accurately, and they can stay.

            1. They can all hit it.
              Burrow has a B+ arm with A+ accuracy, footwork, and head/intangibles.
              Tua might have a little bit stronger arm, maybe as good accuracy, a quicker release, but not as good awareness. Better runner but not nearly as good a maneuverer. Combine that with smaller size and D+ durability, and I’m not taking him in the top 10 (despite what I said about the Chargers – different factors there make it sensible), nor would I feel super comfortable anywhere in the first round. Tua could make sense for a team with an aging vet that doesn’t have to be all in on Tua (Steelers, Colts, Bucs, Saints, etc) but those teams usually have more pressing needs with a 1st round pick. The Chargers at #6 make sense because they’re desperate for a fan base and need the marketing boost that Tua (being Hawaiian and high profile), rather than Herbert, could give them… but from a football perspective, I’d probably rather take a chance on Herbert. After the Chargers… maybe the Packers or Patriots make some sense in the first round (Colts and Steelers don’t pick until 2nd round), the Jags or Raiders could take a flyer with the latter of their multiple 1sts (though it would be a gamble). Personally, Tua would be a Do Not Draft in the 1st… and it’s the ankles, even before the broken hip, that are a red flag for me.
              Haskins has talent and has the work ethic, but someone needs to teach him how to throw the damn ball. His footwork and mechanics are all over the place and get really inconsistent at game speed. I think he was a good pick for Washington, but they really need to invest in a top notch QB coach and get him on a year-round program to get him the right muscle memory before his confidence is totally shot.

              I’m baffled that Winston is still out there. He’s still young, still confident, and still crazy talented. He turns the ball over too much, but Tampa had crap coaches (as a Falcons fan, I have a very low opinion of Dirk Koetter) before Arians, and Arians defining slogan is “no risk it, no biscuit” so I’m not surprised he turned the ball over constantly. I’m not sure Leftwich, despite being a former QB, is a very good coach (though Arizona was a train wreck while he was there, he didn’t really improve anything when he took over as OC). I still believe in Jameis! Plus, he just had Lasix surgery – as someone else who remembers him squinting from his FSU days, I think this story should get more play…

              1. needs Rick Vaughan glasses.

                1. But isn’t that what gave him the AIDS…

      3. Note here, I’m not discounting Chase Young. I’m basically trading Chase Young for three first round picks. Chase Young is amazing. He can only play one position at a time. We are not just one player away from being a contender. No matter who we draft this year, we may be looking at at a top 3 pick next year, too. Most power rankings have us as the third worst team in the league–and I think they’re right.

        If I had to rank our options in order.

        1) Draft Tua and trade him to Miami for three (3) first round picks and take a starting CB, a starter on the OL, and an excellent prospect at WR.

        2) Draft Tua and get stuck with him. He competes with Haskins to become the franchise QB we’ve been searching for 30 years.

        3) Draft Chase Young.

        If our worst possible outcome is Chase Young, that’s awesome, but we need a lot more than an upgraded DE to be anything better than embarrassing.

        1. One of the NFL’s big draft talking heads is a local radio guy here in Houston. He knows his stuff, obviously, and is usually fairly conservative on his draft evaluations. I don’t remember him ever comparing a prospect to Julius Peppers as a comp before: https://www.nfl.com/prospects/chase-young?id=3219594f-5514-6550-d662-263c81d981b1 Graded him as a likely perennial All-Pro.

          Chase Young is probably really that good. Better than other 1st round rushers.

          1. Peppers was who immediately came to mind when someone said “best edge prospect since LT” but the Bosa boys are more recent.
            Young is really, really good – but he’s not a better prospect than any of those mentioned above.
            Don’t sleep on Simmons – he’s a game changer, and will be an absolute weapon if used creatively. Worst case, i think he’s a perennial pro bowler

        2. “1) Draft Tua and trade him to Miami for three (3) first round picks”

          Wild fantasy.
          If Miami is going to trade 3 1sts, why not just move up to #1 and take Burrow?
          I will guarantee you that Miami doesn’t trade 3 1st round picks for Tua

          1. Miami has three first round picks because someone else was willing to trade two first round picks and a second round pick to them in exchange for Laremy Tunsil (a left tackle), wide receiver Kenny Stills, who averages 700 some yards a season, and two other players who will probably be backups. If someone was willing to give Miami two first round picks and a second for a left tackle, there isn’t any reason to think they might be willing to trade them for what most people think may be a franchise quarterback for years to come. If the Bengals don’t take three first round draft picks for Burrow, it’s because they’d rather have Burrow than three first round draft picks.

            1. P.S. Why would Miami offer three first round draft picks for Burrow when they think Tua will drop all the way to the 5th pick–and then they can have both Tua and two more first round picks? That’s the point of the Redskins picking Tua–they won’t offer us anything to move up for Tua if they don’t think they have to trade up to get Tua.

            2. That somebody was the Texans, and their GM is also their head coach. Without hyperbole, he is the worst general manager in the last 10 years in the NFL, and perhaps even longer. I am not exaggerating when I say that Nardz would probably be a bad NFL GM, compared to his peers, but that he would be better than Bill O’Brien.

              Just because Miami pried a bunch of draft picks from that idiot, doesn’t mean other teams are as stupidly led.

              1. I have to tell you that one of the things that Houston fans are known for–maybe what they’re most known for–is turning against their general managers, when really they shouldn’t.

                Casserly was a genius. Go ahead and admit it. Everybody knows it. Casserly was right and the people of Houston were wrong.

                https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft06/news/story?id=2426003

              2. The straw that broke the camel’s back in Washington may have been that trade, by the way . . .

                If Miami can get two first round picks and a second for that left guard, why couldn’t our GM get anything for Trent Williams?

                If Houston had just offered us a single second round pick, we should have taken it–and everybody knew that Trent Williams wanted out of Washington.

                Our situation is so desperate right now, with gaping holes at CB, OL, and WR, I’m thinking maybe we should start considering the unthinkable . . .

                What’s Antonio Brown doing these days?

                1. No, this is not simply a matter of HoustonFan not liking their GM. FWIW, I think Casserly was below average, Smith was an aggravating combination of wunderkind (Watt, getting rid of Osweiler’s deal) and idiotic (drafting Osweiler, and a slew of bust 1st through 3rd rounders). I l liked Gaine. Think they got too clever with finessing their attempt to draft Dillard at OT, and I wouldn’t have drafted Clowney #1, but some of that is due to ownership meddling, IMHO. They love them some Workout Warriors there.

                  It is a matter, if you have the time or care enough to look at BoB’s transactions since forcing Gaine out, of him being ignorant of relative value, over-rewarding players he gets along with, and forcing out players that he doesn’t. He is incompetent at player contract structuring. Or at anticipating potential personnel problems.

                  He is, in short, a mark for the rest of the League front offices and players’ agents to try and take advantage of while he still has draft picks to trade and cap space to waste.

                  1. Oh, and re Casserly and Mario Williams, this is a peeve of mine.

                    What should have happened was that the Texans should have swapped 1sts with the Jets. The Jets had: the #4 overall pick, another first in the 20s, and had just had Curtis Martin retire. They needed a flashy pick, and a RB would perfect. At 4, they couldn’t expect Reggie Bush to fall to them. Houston did need a 4-3 rushing DE, but BADLY needed an offensive line more.

                    So, give the Jets the #1 for the #4 and #20-whatever. Per the Jimmy Johnson trade chart, that works in the Jets’s favor, so they should agree. Draft ‘Brick Ferguson and Nick Mangold at LT and C, respectively, where the Jets ended up getting them. 10 seasons, 3 Pro Bowls for Brick, which is meh for #4, but w/e. 7 Pro Bowls, 2 1st team All-Pros, 1 2nd team All-Pro for Mangold.

                    Now Carr might not get sacked the 41 times he got planted in 2006 (68 in 2005!), and he might have had a better career in Houston. Or, burn the first overall pick on a workout warrior with a motivation problem.

                  2. And of course Smith didn’t draft Osweiler. That might be excusable. He just thought 72/4, with 36 guaranteed was a good FA contract to lure the guy to Houston.

                    1. FWIW, I thought it insane you guys wouldn’t part with Trent Williams. Not sure I’d have been keen on pursuing him if I knew there might be a brain cancer issue, but I thought the ‘Skins’s obstinacy was nuts.

                    2. Washington is holding out for a 1st round pick for Williams, which teams aren’t biting on because he’s 31 years old, is 1 failed drug test away from being suspended an entire season, and wants to be the highest paid offensive lineman in the NFL (which would put him at about $20m/year, roughly 10% of the salary cap). I think the Browns mightve offered a 2nd rounder last year, but Bruce Allen is a stubborn dick. A 2nd rounder is the best they can hope for now, and in a draft deeper at the position than I’ve ever seen, that might be too high a price to pay.

                      And no, regardless of any previous fan history, O’Brian is awful with trades. He gave up a 3rd for Duke Johnson (not terrible… if he were going to be the primary back and Carlos Hyde didn’t come in and get 1,000 yards). Duke Johnson could’ve probably been had for a 5th. The Tunsil trade could’ve been defended, despite the steep price (Miami wanted to keep him, but the offer was too rich to pass up), if they’d had a contract agreement in place – as it is, they’re going to pay a good player the wages of an all time great. But the Hopkins trade is the worst I’ve ever seen. All of those moves have been widely panned.
                      I think Ken waaaaaaaaaaaay overrates Tua. He’s talked up by media, but I don’t think anyone regards him as a can’t miss prospect. Indeed, recent word is that Miami likes Herbert more.
                      So if Miami is planning to take a QB at #5 (and I wouldn’t if I were them), and the QB they want is Tua, what happens if the Skins take Tua at #2?
                      Miami shrugs their shoulders and goes with plan B – either Herbert, trade back, or take whoever of Young, Simmons, or their favored LT falls to them.

    3. I think Ron Rivera will be good for Haskins.

      1. I think Haskins will need to win over Ron Rivera, and I think that’s the way it should be.

        Being a legacy hire is always a tough situation when you’re in a high performance position under new management.

        A lot of people had Dunbar as the number two ranked CB in the league last year. Rivera gave him away for a fifth round draft pick.

        Dunbar, obviously, did not win over Ron Rivera, and if Haskins fails to win over Rivera, too, the same thing will happen to him.

        And that’s as it should be.

        The WRs need to run the pattern in the play that the QB calls, and the QB needs to be on the same page with the coach. Everybody needs to be on the same team, and if somebody isn’t, you have to cut bait.

        1. well for yours and Haskins’ sake I hope it’s the first. as Cowboys Fan I hope all your WRs sprain their ankles.

          1. Now that I know I was listening to a Cowboys’ fan, I’ll go drench my ears in bleach.

  45. >>Thanks. I’m looking at it closely this week.

    don’t. thanks.

  46. One other thought about the effects of turning up the lockdown screws… Whitmer is playing a dangerous game by making things difficult for the big box stores. Up to now, they (along with most big corporations) have been happy to play along. As usual, when government wants to screw the citizenry, globalist corporations are right there to provide lots of ways to help do that, most of which are much more difficult for smaller competitors to keep up with. Walmart loves treating its customers like inmates anyway (see the recent installation of “reverse greeters” demanding to see your receipt when you try to leave), so forcing them to line up and maintain a regimented distance is great fun to them, and how they think the shopping experience should be normally. Plus self checkouts and automated online ordering/pickup is what they have been pushing anyway to reduce employee headcount. However, the tradeoff has been that provided they can meet some definition of “essential” by selling food products or cleaning supplies or whatever else, the entire stores can stay open- and thus they can keep selling toys, sporting goods, home improvement products, etc. And even the biggest pants shitters are going to come there eventually anyway to buy food, and might be able to be tempted into picking up a few non-essential items since they are already there and exposing themselves. Thus giving these retailers a big leg up on smaller non-big box or specialty stores which, if they are allowed to be open at all, probably suffer greatly reduced business because people are minimizing unnecessary trips. Now that she is screwing over the big box corporations and partially removing this advantage, they might start to be a little less cooperative in keeping the charade going.

  47. who the hell is Jen Monroe?

    1. Isn’t that Wonder Woman’s alter ego?

  48. Brown is getting herself all woked up on abortion again..why is she writing at Reason and not Salon or Slate? As Trump would say..”get her out..”

  49. The last piece of shit twitter quote explains everything you need to know about the bootlickers here.

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