Impeachment

House Votes To Send Impeachment Articles to Senate as New Evidence Comes to Light

President Donald Trump's trial will likely begin next week.

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The House of Representatives voted 228-193 on Wednesday to formally send articles of impeachment to the Senate, signaling the start of President Donald Trump's trial. While the tally fell mostly along party lines, Rep. Collin Peterson (D–Minn.) voted against the articles' advancement and Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) voted in favor.

Also announced on Wednesday were the impeachment managers, who will prosecute the case against Trump. Rep. Adam Schiff (D–Calif.) is at the helm with help from Reps. Jerry Nadler (D–N.Y.), Hakeem Jeffries (D–N.Y.), Jason Crow (D–Colo.), Zoe Lofgren (D–Calif.), Val Demings (D–Fla.), and Sylvia Garcia (D–Texas).

The move capped off a contentious back-and-forth between House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D–Calif.) and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R–Ky.), after the former initially said she would withhold the articles for an unspecified period of time. Pelosi told ABC's This Week With George Stephanopoulos that she primarily did so to make the public case for witnesses after McConnell intimated that he would resist allowing any during the trial. The Kentucky senator, who has emphasized his desire for speedy proceedings, has since said that he will follow the impeachment model used during the Clinton administration, where senators vote on a resolution to start the trial and later vote on whether or not to allow witnesses.

Pelosi has come under fire for charging ahead with impeachment without waiting to hear from many in Trump's close circle, such as Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney, and former National Security Adviser John Bolton, whom the White House had instructed not to testify. Bolton recently announced that, if subpoenaed, he would comply.

Trump was impeached by the House in December amid accusations that he improperly leveraged his position to pressure Ukraine into publicly announcing investigations into his political foes. He is the third president in U.S. history to face a Senate trial.

Wednesday's House vote coincided with the Tuesday release of records that provide additional fodder for the notion that Rudy Giuliani, Trump's personal lawyer, and his associate, Lev Parnas, were working to ensure that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy announced those probes. The tranche of documents includes a handwritten note from Parnas that says, "get Zalensky to Annouce that the Biden case will Be Investigated." It further contains a correspondence between Parnas and Robert F. Hyde, a Republican congressional candidate in Connecticut, where Hyde implies that he is surveilling Marie Yovanovitch, the former ambassador to Ukraine who was ousted by Giuliani

After informing Parnas that Yovanovich's computer was off, Hyde said he could solicit help in tracking her whereabouts. "They are moving her tomorrow. The guys over [there] asked me what I would like to do and what is in it for them," Hyde said via WhatsApp. "They are willing to help if we/you would like a price. Guess you can do anything in the Ukraine with money."

Additionally, a letter from Giuliani to Zelenskiy requests a meeting between the two. In the letter, Giuliani tells the Ukrainian leader that the president has "knowledge and consent" of his efforts. Democrats are likely to emphasize the latter, as Republicans have argued that Trump may have been unaware or not directly involved in Giuliani's actions.

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  1. HaHAhahahahahahaha.

    Billy, you’re such a tool. It’s over.

    1. “Pelosi told ABC’s This Week With George Stephanopoulos that she primarily did so to make the public case for witnesses after McConnell intimated that he would resist allowing any during the trial. The Kentucky senator … has since said that he will follow the impeachment model used during the Clinton administration, where senators vote on a resolution to start the trial and later vote on whether or not to allow witnesses.”

      Binion is lying to spin it as a Pelosi victory. McConnell said all along even before the impeachment vote that they would use the Clinton rules that allow a 51 vote dismissal after opening statements. He said from the beginning he didn’t have 60 votes for a rule change, and wasn’t going to use the nuclear option to change rules that were passed 100-0 for the Clinton impeachment. It was Pelosi and Schumer who insisted that the Clinton rules were too good for Trump.

      1. Somebody needs to check this out!

        Before the 2016 election, Quid Pro Quo VP Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion of U.S. Loan guarantees if Ukraine’s leaders didn’t fire their top prosecutor who was investigating his son, Hunter!

        Hunter Biden received millions from China, Russia and Ukraine! He was paid $80,000 per month to sit on the Board of a Ukrainian energy company!

        Were Joe’s and Hunter’s overlapping interests in Ukraine criminal?

        Was Hunter Ukraine’s access to our Vice President?

        Thank God for President Trump!

        America First!

    2. Poor little Billy can’t make orange man go away.

  2. What I’m blathering about – new shit has come to light, man.

      1. Shut the fuck up diane. Dude the chinaman is not the issue here.

        1. Human paraquat!

    1. He owes money all over town, including to known pornographers…and that’s cool…

    2. No dude, that had not occurred to us.

      1. This is a very complicated case. You know, a lotta ins, a lotta outs, a lotta what-have-yous. And, uh, a lotta strands to keep in my head, man.

        1. Yeah, well, you know, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

    3. There is always new shit (or piss) coming to light in their perpetual quest to remove Trump…..Heck, they have a chronic case of diarrhea!

      1. Every day comes with an ocean of evidence for Trump’s innocence of the accusations of the Left.

    4. I admit that I only skimmed the article, but did it even speculate on what new information has come to light? Is it newsworthy damning information? Is it even truly new or just the bs they claimed to have (yet never showed) just after new year?
      Off topic, but I find the choice of impeachment managers to be interesting. It looks like it’s the batshit crazy leadership who has been lying through the whole thing and then a few “diversity” choices for optics. Or are those others actually active experienced commitee members?

      1. Obviously you’re not a golfer

  3. Yay! Who here thinks these GOP crooks and suck-ups and Jeebus second coming freaks are going to convict him? Me either.

    1. “Yay! Who here thinks these GOP crooks and suck-ups and Jeebus second coming freaks are going to convict him? Me either.”

      After the D crooks and suck-ups and Jeebus second coming freaks voted to impeach him for the crime of beating that hag in an election, scumbag.

  4. The fix is in. You think these GOP apparatchiks inthralled with Dear Leader are going to give up their cushy job by going against His Preciousness. Fuck that. Look at Justin Amash and what is happening with him vs Trump SuckMyBalls Guy. I wouldn’t cross him either.

    1. Turn about is fair play. The fix was in with the house now the fix is in with the senate.

      When it’s a “political process” one can’t expect any level of fairness.

    2. “The fix is in. You think these GOP apparatchiks inthralled with Dear Leader are going to give up their cushy job by going against His Preciousness. Fuck that. Look at Justin Amash and what is happening with him vs Trump SuckMyBalls Guy. I wouldn’t cross him either.”

      We know. Your lips are firmly attached to Pelosi’s anus.

      1. I bet Pe-Lousy’s anus looks better than he face!

  5. “Democrats are likely to emphasize the latter, as Republicans have argued that Trump may have been unaware or not directly involved in Giuliani’s actions.”

    …which is absurd. Because, like Bush, Trump is an evil omniscient mastermind (who nevertheless has the IQ of a chimp).

    1. If he was smart he’d get away with more of this, but he’s not, and he’s not.

      1. He committed no offense, so there’s nothing for him to “get away” with.

        Unlike Obama, who routinely had to argue that he was too lazy and stupid to pay attention to his staff and job, and was therefore unaccountable.

        Or Hillary Clinton, the woman who was too stupid/evil/insane/pathetic/corrupt/hated to win an election she rigged for herself (‘member all your dumbfuck posts about her “inevitability”, dumbfuck?), who’s only saving grace was to get the head of the FBI to declare her above the law.

        1. You need to go to Scandinavia and take a coma vacation to get your brain in order.

          1. No, you need to stop being the pathetic, braindead, lying little sociopathic narcissist that you are.

      2. The walls are closing in!!!1 eleventy!

      3. “If he was smart he’d get away with more of this, but he’s not, and he’s not.”

        If you were smart, you wouldn’t be who you are.
        Fuck off, shitbag.

        1. What a compelling argument.

  6. You know, you would think that the Democrats would pivot and focus more towards the progressives who are pulling the party far left. I don’t think it’s funny anymore with AOC’s popularity and the recent leaked video about a Sanders staffer calling for violence and gulags. Once the old Democrats like Pelosi and Biden are gone, are the leftists poised to take over?

    Trump is the least of their worries.

    1. You would think the Republican would be concerned about how history will look at them when in the face of evidence they let President Trump off. This will be a OJ verdict. They all know President Trump is guilty but they let him off anyway.

      1. The Senate let Clinton off and there was no question at all about his guilt. History doesn’t care much.

        1. This is probably the most poignant comment here.

        2. History is nothing more than just one damned thing after another….

          1. It’s somebody doing something.

        3. I think he is guilty, and I don’t think it matters.

      2. It is like the OJ case in the sense that the investigation was such a dumpster fire that no functional justice system could possibly get a conviction based on it.

        1. BS. There was a shit ton of evidence putting OJ at the scene with the means, motive, and opportunity, as well as the blood evidence all over his socks and the gate etc, and the Bruno Magli shoes. Only a moron would come to any other conclusion than OJ guilty.

          1. None of that matters because a cop wrote a racist screenplay.

            1. In the face of evidence? Evidence of what? Trump could refer for investigation anything he has reasonable suspicion improprieties took place. Biden’s public bragging is reasonable suspicion. Trump asked a favor of Zelensky but made no demands, threats or bribes, nor threatened to exercise U.S. government power. There is no proof beyond reasonable doubt of anything impeachable.

          2. “”as well as the blood evidence all over his socks and the gate etc””

            The blood evidence goes down the shitter when you have a cop pleading the 5th on the witness stand when asked about the discrepancy in the amount of blood in the vile from when he picked it up, and when it was delivered as evidence.

      3. Once again, FauxModerate, you’re confusing Trump with his predecessor.

      4. You should be more concerned with how history and voters are going to judge the Democrats for openly siding with America’s enemies (for whom they have committed treason in the past) at the same time they’re pursuing a false impeachment to try an undo the embarrassment of losing an election they rigged.

        1. Dems siding with the Iranian General is far more closer to treason that anything Trump has done that I am aware of.

          1. So was the JCPOA and Obama sending them pallets of cash

            1. And spending eight years wasting American lives and dollars in a series of illegal wars and “Arab Spring” coups to directly aid Iran’s terrorists, and destabilize the mideast for the mullahs.

              1. “”“Arab Spring”””

                Isn’t that a soap?

      5. Lefties like this guy love to scream ‘muh right side of history’.

        Democrats, that being said, probably won’t come out smelling like roses in the years 2016-2020 when history is done assessing this period.

      6. What a fucking hilarious assertion.

      7. “You would think the Republican would be concerned about how history will look at them when in the face of evidence they let President Trump off.”

        You mean they won’t convict him for beating that hag in the election?!
        The gall of them!!!!

      8. And by the way….they don’t know jack shit.

      9. In the face of evidence? Evidence of what? Trump could refer for investigation anything he has reasonable suspicion improprieties took place. Biden’s public bragging is reasonable suspicion. Trump asked a favor of Zelensky but did not bribe or threaten. Read phone transcripts. No proof beyond reasonable doubt of anything impeachable, not even prepoderance of evidence.

        1. He can ask a favor of anyone for anything not illegal. It was not illegal for the Ukrainians to investigate Biden.

      10. In the face of evidence? Evidence of what? Trump could refer for investigation anything he has reasonable suspicion improprieties took place. Biden’s public bragging is reasonable suspicion. Trump asked a favor of Zelensky but made no demands, threats or bribes, nor threatened to exercise U.S. government power. There is no proof beyond reasonable doubt of anything impeachable.

      11. Since the House didn’t charge Trump with anything that’s a violation of law he can’t be guilty of anything.

        What the Senate has to decide is if Trump butthurt the House enough to remove him from office. I don’t think they’ve been butthurt enough.

        1. Well. he is guilty of having a really bad comb over.

          That’s gotta count for something.

      12. It’s a proven fact that a Trump is innocent. So don’t even start with that shit

      13. Haha, is this a joke? Like the joke impeachment?

        You do realize that the President was impeached because he wanted Democratic corruption investigated? He’s being impeached by Democrats for wanting to investigate THEIR crimes. Hahaha.

        I don’t even like Trump but this is insane.

      14. Guilty of wanting to make sure that our money isn’t going to fund corruption? HOW DARE HE!

    2. You need to extract your brain from rightwing propaganda sources and learn to read and interpret like a mature adult human. I’ll not hold my breath.

      1. And you wonder why people don’t take you seriously.

        1. People who are jacked into Sean Hannity’s asshole don’t take me seriously. I’m so upset.

          1. I’m sure you’re quite focused on Hannity’s rectum you faggot. And you’re clearly obsessed with a Fox News.

            1. Tony is showing a lack of intelligence by thinking everyone he disagrees with is a Fox News viewer.

              I don’t watch Fox News, and I can’t stand Hannity. But Tony’s not interested in truth.

          2. Oh, the lying fucking moron who told us all how the woman who couldn’t even win an election she rigged was “inevitable” is going to determine for everyone what is and isn’t valid.

            How cute.

      2. “I’ll not hold my breath.”
        Please do. For a very long time.

      3. I read the call transcripts – the only reliable evidence. There’s nothing impeachable there.

    3. The real power players know how well the Central Planners, Chavez family, Castro family, Pravda and the PRC powerbrokers live. Why would Seyer promote democratic socialists and Bloomberg promote massive public housing projects and a green new deal WPA?
      This time it will work if the right people are in charge.

      1. Well, they all figured out that communism doesn’t really work… But fascism works AWESOME for the people at the top. Which is what the Chinese are nowadays. A little state ownership, but mostly just control through regulations and corruption. This is what they’re all about.

  7. The case rests on Trump improperly wanting to publicize the truth that Biden was on the take?

    This should be fun.

    1. President Trump did not want an investigation or the truth. He wanted an announce of an investigation so he could accuse Biden. We are also finding out that he wanted uncooperative people out of the way.

      1. Nice mindreading powers. We all get that you desperately want him to want this, but pray tell; why would Trump need to have a formal announcement of Biden’s corruption when it was already public knowledge, was already being investigated without Trump’s direction, and is wholly unnecessary for Trump to damage Biden? Literally all he would have to do is bring it up a few more times at rallies the same as he does for anyone else he wants to attack. Funny how he finally decided to utilize state resources. It’s almost like…there’s actually something legitimately worth investigation. Whoa.

      2. “President Trump did not want an investigation or the truth.”

        Do you read crystal balls as poorly as you do minds?
        Suffice to say, your bullshit is simply personal justification for your idiocy.

      3. That’s all irrelevant. The only reliable evidence is the call transcript. Trump asked a favor of Zelensky without making any demand, threat or bribe, or exercising any power of the U.S. government. There is no proof beyond reasonable doubt that any abuse of power took place. Biden’s public admissions constitute reasonable suspicion that he abused his power.

        1. That Biden abused his power.

          1. LBJoe didn’t admit abusing his power.

            He was BRAGGING about abusing his power, so that people would know that he had actually HAD power to abuse.

      4. Right on the transcript of the call he says “can you look into that for us?” Not “can you announce an investigation for us?”

      5. Yes, our system of government is based on combining self interest with the interest of the people. Trump has a selfish political incentive to expose crooked behavior by opponents, and that’s a good thing.

        For some reason this surprises you and the Democrats.

        1. It doesn’t surprise them.

          It TERRIFIES them.

  8. Billy was promised a pony. And, dammit, he still believes.

    Cute, but his parents are still hoping he outgrows it.

    1. Dream come true if Vermin Supreme pulls off a well deserved victory come November.

  9. An undated note from a guy indicted on multiple federal charges of fraud and conspiracy who’s already fabricated evidence in a desperate attempt to get an immunity deal from Schiff and Pelosi so he can avoid prison? That’s the new smoking gun? LOL. https://t.co/xnnEsZUqo1

    — Sean Davis (@seanmdav) January 14, 2020

    1. If that’s the best you got, you go with it – – – – – –

  10. In other news, Russia hacking for Trump is Back! According to Clinton, [if} Biden either loses the nomination or the election, it will be another “Russia hacked Ukraine for Trump in 2019” thing. Please come up with a different narrative, please– I’d give to a Gofundme campaign…Just make it stop.

  11. Has new shit come to light, or did they just realize that it wasn’t playing well to their base to not send along the articles?

    They want to drag this issue past November, one might think.

    1. New shit in fact. You know about facts, right?

      1. “Shit” meaning there’s nothing to it.

        And you know all about Shit, Tony.

        1. He likes having his packed. And probably likes ATM.

      2. Actually just shit. As in against the wall. Which you and sqrsly are desperately licking up.

      3. “New shit in fact. You know about facts, right?”

        Yes, we do. You “fact” is indeed shit.

      4. Yes.

        It’s a pity that you don’t.

        But you’re fun to watch.

    2. The Donkeys have a dilemma. A quick trial allows the candidates to stump, but a longer trial keeps the issue in play. Only the Turtle has control.

      1. The Dems asked for this circus. I hope McConnell gives them Circus Maximus. I mean every fucking witness who had ever even heard of Ukraine. Lets open up Burisma and Hunter Biden to the light of day. I mean the Dems want a trial in the Senate? Fuck em. Let’s do it up right. By the time we are done, Pence will be running as the incumbent VP in 2024.

        1. 5 minutes a day through the whole campaign season just to fuck with warren and sanders.

          1. Scheduled in the middle of any/all debates.

        2. In fact, that seems to be the only rational choice. The senate should give a full, LONG, and DETAILED trial. Make the basis of the defense that Trump had probable cause to start an investigation. This will make it a by-proxy trial of Biden as well. Give the Democrats ample time to call every last witness.

          The Republicans have always cornered the law and order vote. By giving a full and detailed trial, while the Democrats did a rush, hack job it will reinforce their base. With Warren and Sanders off the campaign trail, it will also boost Biden’s chances of the nomination while simultaneously reminding everyone of his corruption. Trump V Biden then runs on a “drain the swamp” foundation, where Trump frames himself as the defender of freedom against the embodiment of corrupt nepotism.

        3. NO!!! We do not want a Circus Maximus, BearO. Are you serious? How much damage do you really want done to our Republic? It would literally tear the country apart. We need the exact opposite of a Circus Maximus. The House presents their case. The POTUS’ team presents their rebuttal. The Senate declines additional witnesses, and declines to remove POTUS Trump from office.

          This has to be settled the old fashioned way, at the ballot box. That is the best way to address this impeachment disgrace. A decisive electoral defeat for Team D will end the argument.

          1. I understand your point in minimizing partisan bitterness and the perception of injustice. But, the question is would dragging Biden through the mud help defeat Team D and would it be worth it.

          2. I’d prefer if the settles it the old fashioned way by dueling.

            And frankly, this country needs done tearing apart, since Democrats still live under the delusion that if they regain control, they can impose their policies on everybody.

            1. No NOYB2, the country doesn’t ‘win’ by tearing itself apart. No way, no how. You advocate a path to civil war.

              I repeat: The way to ‘win’ in this impeachment disgrace is via the ballot box and inflicting a decisive electoral defeat to Team D.

              1. “Tear the country apart” would first require most people in the country caring about it. We don’t. There are few people who see this as anything other than a continuation of Campaign 2016. It’s a game being played in DC by people who don’t listen to the rest of us in the first place. The primary effect is to pull fence-sitters into the Trump camp while stirring up Trump’s supporters.

  12. Oh gee how did a lifetime of corruption and a presidency of treason ever slip by intrepid libertarians who are the vanguard against powerful interests. Oh gee.

    1. Perhaps libertarians are more inclined to believe people are innocent until proven guilty and have a relatively high bar for the burden of proof.

      1. If the idea is that President Trump is innocent then why is Biden guilty? There evidence of the President’s guilt in documents and witnesses. Nothing but conjecture about Biden. Seem that innocent till proven guilty only applies to the President.

        1. Who is saying Biden is guilty?

          1. You’re a fucking idiot.

          2. Who is saying Biden is guilty?

            Joe Biden says so.

            He did it openly and loudly, on video, while laughing about what he’d done.

            Is everyone fucking blind?

            1. You have really got to learn how to use the Internet to consume actual information instead of reading whatever jacks you off the most.

              1. “You have really got to learn how to use the Internet to consume actual information instead of reading whatever jacks you off the most.”
                Shitbag and his mom thinks that means other than he’s falling down drunk again.

              2. Jesus Tony. Watch the video of Biden bragging and quit pretending it doesn’t exist.

                https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

                And spare us the line about how he fired the prosecutor because he was corrupt. When someone is corrupt, you call for an investigation. You don’t threaten to fire them in 6 hours like Biden did.

              3. Just Tony projecting again.

                1. Projecting based in his own guilt.

              4. Oh, come on, Tony, GIVE YOUR BRAIN A CHANCE!

        2. “ There evidence of the President’s guilt in documents and witnesses”

          Say it one million more times and it will come true.

        3. Who is asking for biden to be jailed?

          1. Trumpists. Just like they did with Hillary. Do you think Hillary should be locked up? Be honest.

            1. Well, given how harshly most individuals are treated when they violate classified information protocols, then yes.
              People have gone to jail for actions far less damaging than hers, hell people have lost their jobs and security clearances for minor violations which did not breach state security. What is publicly known about HRC’s actions would have resulted in jail time for almost anyone else.
              Hell ask any former serviceman who has had a communications MOS about the hell they can be put through for minor inadvertent issues related to crypto. Intentionally fucking about with that stuff isn’t a harmless little prank like murder. It is a damned good way to spend the rest of your life at Leavenworth.
              At the absolute least, she should have been indicted for her actions. I’m sure she would have gotten off, and twelve people would have mysteriously gotten rich afterwards, or perhaps mysteriously dead to prevent accusations of witness tampering, but that is speculation.

            2. Tony
              January.15.2020 at 9:18 pm
              “Trumpists.”
              While he (and that hag) should be in jail, it’s only those voices in you head making that claim.

              “Do you think Hillary should be locked up? Be honest.”
              Absolutely. Only delusional lefties assume otherwise.

              Please fuck off and die where we can’t smell your pathetic remains.

            3. Tony, the honest answer to your question is: For a short time.

              Personally, I want to see Crooked Hillary doing the perp walk, followed by a short term (like two weeks, max) behind bars. More than anything, political and social elites fear public humiliation. What Crooked Hillary did was wrong. It is plainly obvious is that there is a double standard of justice here. One for elites, and something far harsher and less forgiving for the rest of us.

              So do I want to see her locked up? No, not really. But I do want to see her publicly humiliated by a televised perp walk. That will send a message to the rest of that elite class.

              BTW, I tend to feel the same way about Comey, Strozok, and Clapper. Public perp walks, followed by a short term. Brennan, OTOH, should be tried for sedition.

            4. Considering that Hillary Clinton committed a felony which the head of the FBI acknowledged on live international television just before announcing that she would never be prosecuted because she’s above the law?

              Yes, dumbfuck.

            5. “” Do you think Hillary should be locked up? Be honest.””

              Only if she is found guilty in a trial. She should have been indicted.

              I will say that everyone who has held a security clearance will tell you they would be in jail for treating classified information the way she did. When you support Hillary in this situation, you are supporting privilege of the ruling class to not live by the law the rest of us do.

        4. “If the idea is that President Trump is innocent then why is Biden guilty?”

          Biden threatened the guy to keep his crooked son from investigation; Trump asked that the investigation happen.
          Now, who is guilty of what? Think real hard, take your time; we know you need it.

          1. Trump asked a foreign government to investigate his most likely political opponent in 2020. It’s extortion. The fact that it’s based on numbnuts FOX News conspiracy theories is just the jizz on the cake. But that’s why he’s being impeached. And I’m so sorry for you given the new evidence that has just come out. Boy you backed the wrong fucking fat pony didn’t you? Sad.

            1. “Trump asked a foreign government to investigate his most likely political opponent in 2020. It’s extortion.”

              You.
              Are.
              Full.
              Of.
              Shit.
              Crazy uncle Joe is still not his ‘most likely opponent’ and at the time he was simply a private citizen, an ex-elected official, who had tried to use *his* influence to protect his dead-beat son.
              Stuff that pile of shit up your ass, so your head has some company.

            2. Tony, seriously, what is it with you and Fox News? Do you sit there every night and bitterly jack yourself off to Tucker?

            3. “WAAAHHHH ACKNOWLEDGING OR INVESTIGATING MY PARTY’S CORRUPTION IS THE MOST CORRUPT ACT THERE IS!”
              – Literally the Regressive Left’s only defense at this poiny,

            4. “”Trump asked a foreign government to investigate his most likely political opponent in 2020.””

              Please explain to me why it’s ok to purchase this information, but not ok to do it yourself?

        5. Well he did pretty much admit to it at the Council on Foreign Relations.

          Libertarians are more inclined to let due process take over.

          Lefties like you….less so.

          1. What are you talking about? The people who only months before clamored about Bill Clinton being thrown onto the SCOTUS then claiming that Kavanaugh should be barred from life based on a obvious lie have full respect for the process of law.

    2. But enough about Obama.

    3. She was only the co-president of treason and she lost. You dumb fucks blabbering about corruption nominated Hillary Fucking Clinton to be president and no matter who else is in the room they will always be the lesser evil.

    4. “Oh gee how did a lifetime of corruption and a presidency of treason ever slip by intrepid libertarians who are the vanguard against powerful interests. Oh gee.”

      Dunno.
      She (and you) lost, so we’ll never find out how much treason she might have committed.

    5. “….intrepid libertarians who are the vanguard against powerful interests. ”

      Like the Deep State who want Trump gone.

  13. They couldn’t even manage to articulate any actual crimes committed as grist for this idiotic shampeachment. “Libertarians” at Reason celebrating the victory of the Panopticon state over even the passing pretense of process because of profitable Trump hatred is truly despicable.

    What the fuck does it mean to be Libertarian? Support permanent statist evil over elected jackassery? Fuck that, Binion. And fuck your puerile clickbate too.

    1. “A president need not have committed a crime to be impeached.” -Senator Lindsey Graham

      1. It is absolutely true. Impeachment is a political process. The Dems wanted it, well they gets it.
        And I hope McConnell gives it to them. Good and hard. Let it ALL come to light. The Dems will be fucked.

        1. I mean every quote from every elected Democrat that stated they were going to impeach Trump from the day he was inaugurated. Trump’s defense is absolutely within its rights to question the veracity of his accusers. Everything about Burisma, Hunter Biden, how Joe used his VP position to get Hunter his Chinese deals, what the FBI did, I mean fucking everything.
          I want a real circus. I am talking three-rings, jugglers, elephants, clowns, trapeze, the strong man AND the bearded lady. Let’s do it!!

          1. Pencil neck is witness 1.

          2. BearO, I am compelled to speak out here. You are advocating for a spectacularly bad idea when you say, I want a real circus. I am talking three-rings, jugglers, elephants, clowns, trapeze, the strong man AND the bearded lady. Let’s do it!!

            No! This will absolutely tear our Republic apart. That is not how you ‘win’ in this circumstance. The way to crush this is via the ballot box. Team D needs a decisive electoral defeat. That is how it works.

            A quick trial, followed by a decisive electoral defeat for Team D will end the argument.

            1. HELL No XY.

              I’m with BearO.

              Give us the Circus!

              1. No Eric, that path leads to civil disintegration. Been there, done that.

                1. The fucking Jackass Regime NEEDS disintegration.

                  Losing an election they were proven to have rigged in 2016 resulted in them astroturfing violent Communist riots and abusing the system yo try and stage an outright coup. Why would the same result be any different to the Party of Insanity?

                2. No, a lack of consequences leads to disintegration.

                  The Republic survived a House shitshow, it will survive a reprise in the Senate.

            2. What is tearing our country apart is the rise of democratic socialism and neo-Marxism among the Democrats.

      2. They could impeach because of religion, race or creed – these would be political, despicably political. Does a “purely political act” always deserve more that hawked-up expectoration (or the Senate voted equivalent)? Nope. Fuck that. The House process was a farce, so the Senate ought to stop-loss this bullshit circus.

  14. …accusations that he improperly leveraged his position to pressure Ukraine into publicly announcing investigations into his political foes.
    There really are no more words. This is a fucking joke from the get go.
    Seriously, what the fuck does this new “evidence” have to say about Trump supposedly holding up Congressionally authorized funding for Ukraine?
    I hope McConnell opens up the whole damn thing and calls hundreds of witnesses. Biden will be fucked.

    1. Just how is this supposed to play out for the Democrats? Political O-face all over fall’s ballot, except climax won’t be reached-the DemHouse can only fail, so yet more blue-balled dem fuckface wailing will be heard. Why? Bore the living shit out of the rest of the world, again?

  15. Translation: Pelosi’s circus has reached diminishing returns. She knows it.

    Henceforth, we’ll get maybe two weeks of partisan sermonizing, deposition autopsies, accusations, and histrionics. Prepare to hold your nose.

    Wait…there’s also going to be seen and heard something else: a formal defense for the first time of Trump’s conduct (qua the president).

    Then this nonsense will end.

    1. “Then this nonsense will end”

      If by which you mean the Democrats will amp up their tactic of inciting their psychotic supporters to murderous violence tenfold.

      1. There’s that, yep. More immediate, and more entertaining, however, is the slitting of their own throats. Don’t look now, but the implosion within the Democratic Party deepens by the moment.

        It’s beginning to recall the Trotsky-Stalinist divide and internecine warfare. Bernie and AOC are the new reigns of power: dictators of the proletariat. They’re just waiting for the revolution to unfold, as all Utopians do.

        Ironically, what will ignite their revolution is not any conflict with the enemy they imagine but from the duplicity of their one-time fellow-travelers.

  16. A handwritten note on a cocktail napkin, more or less. The walls are closing in.

    “Reason”

  17. Why did Trump pick the abortion-fancying Ghouliani as a lawyer? Was Lionel Hutz not available?

    1. He picks by name recognition.

  18. Byt unanswered is the critical question –
    Will the democrats call Greta Thunberg?

    1. She’d crack under cross-examination.

      1. She’d crack at 32•F

        1. She’d cross the Atlantic on a boat just to make sure she uses 8 times the carbon a lowly member of the lumpen proletariat would use to make the same journey.

  19. In more important news, the Golden Knights impeached their coach today.

    1. And did you see the replacement? Peter Debeour! (May have misspell that). Like what the hell? Did the front office just get bored and say “I know! Let’s alienate every fan of the whole damn franchise by firing a loved coach AND replace him with VGK’s nemesis!”

      And this is just a few weeks removed from Gallant being named one of the coaches in the All Star game!

      Not quite the clown show the dems have put together but I’ll be damned if it wasn’t a good try.

  20. “Trump’s personal lawyer… working to ensure that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy announced those probes” — Trump’s private lawyer by definition pursues Trump’s private interests, even if these align with the country’s. If, to help that private pursuit, Trump takes or withholds official acts, that’s abuse of power.

    1. The house never proved that Trump’s request was solely for his own private interest. It’s not illegal for the president to ask a foreign leader to look into alleged corruption from a company operating in that country, even if it hires sons from a potential political rival.

      What Trump and Biden did are conflicts of interests. The democrats seized upon it to charge that Trump tried to rig the election and withhold aid. They proved very little of it. Meanwhile Biden actually succeeded in getting the prosecutor fired. If that man’s “corrupt” in matters of policy so is Zelensky.

    2. By that logic, anything Trump does to look good for reelection is an abuse of power. As the entire purpose of any official act is to look good for reelection, he is therefore guilty of abuse of power by definition.

      That’s some pretty absurd reasoning.

      1. Beat me to it.
        IS claim pretty much makes any action by an elected official which aids re-election ‘an abuse of power’.
        Now, it’s not a bad idea, but it’s pretty certain that if this were Obo rather than Trump, IS wouldn’t bother making an ass of him/herself by claiming so.

    3. No it’s not. WTF did you suffer a concussion?

  21. Watch how fast Trump throws Giuliani under the bus.

    1. Will someone stop and frisk him first?

  22. We already knew Trump and his team wanted Zelensky to investigate Biden and even make the announcement. The only thing that mattered is QPQ, which was never proven in the house.

    So the only question is whether Trump ordered Hyde to surveil the ambassador. Yeah, I’m not holding my breath.

    Because the impeachment process is a political process there was no deposition where the other side had ample opportunity to obtain information from would be witnesses and ask them questions. The democrats collected a bunch of text and photos of Lev Parnas (an indicted man who previously refused cooperation) and threw them at the “trial” shouting “here more evidence, catch! catch!” Look, Parnas has a handwritten updated note saying Zelensky should make the investigation public. Surely it has a time stamp.

    The last impeachment process was nowhere near partisan and biased as this one. And in that one, the prez was actually guilty. If I hear one more Reason writer “well what can you do it’s a political process” I’m gonna lose it. What’s the heck is your position? If the government CAN do something, they SHOULD?

    1. “What’s the heck is your position? If the government CAN do something, they SHOULD?”

      As long as they are going after icky people like Trump . Reason is go big state go.

  23. The Ds have thrown in the towel on the presidential race, and announced their next move:
    Anything less than the Senate voting for removal means those senators are participating in the coverup!

    Meanwhile, Bernie’s campaign has announced their intent to burn Milwaukee to the ground should he not be the D nominee.

    1. Still waiting on Reasons coverage of the Project Veritas videos. I’m pretty much gonna go full Quixotic until they address it.

      But impeachment.

      1. Yea, you’ll be waiting on that a while.
        At least until after a few more videos.
        It’s gonna take a bit for Reason to cook up their “but Trump supporters are worse” argument

        1. Oh come on, somewhere there’s a Trump supporter saying something stupid. And it shouldn’t be that hard to equate it to someone in Bernies socialist camp glorifying gulags.

          If we didn’t win the Cold War to stop redneck Americans from wanting to stop illegal immigration then what was the point?

      2. “Local news story”

      3. I’m still waiting on the Project Veritas Bernie staffer Gulag/forced labor/reeducation coverage as well. I think we will be waiting until reason.com authors (I’m looking at you, Binion and Gillespe) can find a way to spin the video to appear as anything other than a full-throated admission of the socialist/communist/statist/control-hungry degeneracy that Bernie and his supporters clamor for continuously. And as for the “go full Quixotic” aspect, your effort is much more worthwhile than nattering on about the Golb trial or blowing into plastic flutes.

        1. And the Fourth Estate wonders why citizenry holds them in contempt.

    2. Uh, uh, that video was like, totally out of context somehow, even though Veritas always puts the full and unedited videos up. Yup, out of context. Cuz magic.

  24. Wow, the Democrat leadership team is so white they were politely asked to refrain from bringing potato salad to the annual potluck.

    Good thing Hakeem “Token” Jeffries is there to pay lip service to diversity.

    1. They’re so white except for the nonwhite people!

      Take a look at the Republican caucus.

      1. Let’s list everyone by their race and go from there.

      2. Why does their race matter. I though we are all equal? Are you saying we need nonwhite people because they are better?

        1. I thought enumerating the racial makeup of committee Democrats was in fashion now, what with the hullabaloo over the melanin content of the most recent debate. Are you saying that is not correct… politically speaking of course?

      3. Why, Tony? The Democratic Regime is the biggest collection of old, rich white control freaks in the country.

  25. This is like someone finding a from Hillary Clinton saying “* get more child sex saves from the pizza place.“

    Wow. That’s convenient.

    1. Every one knows “pizza place” was code for Epstein’s plane.

  26. Trump is guilty of winning that election AND being Donald Trump. As far as the Ds are concerned, those are impeachable offenses.
    The cries for impeachment began the day he was inaugurated, and since then, it has been a fishing expedition hoping to find some fig leaves to cover that naked intent. Since they couldn’t accomplish that, these lame ‘offenses’ will have to suffice.
    Pelosi and the lot of them would be embarrassed if they had the decency and intelligence to do so.

    1. Eat your borscht you fucking moron. There is literally nothing Trump could do that you would find improper. You are a useless brain in probably an even more useless body. What even is the point of you?

      1. Such a boring piece of lefty loser shit; you and she lost, and you haven’t been right about anything since.
        Are the walls closing in? Is it the tipping point? Do you have to be brain-damaged to be a lefty or does being one cause it?
        Fuck off and die where your stench won’t bother decent people, shitbag.

      2. Poor sad angry old man.

      3. Tony, if you ever want to have shot out and settle accounts, let me know. Just remember, by your own assertions, I am the deadliest man alive.

      4. Investigating corrupt Biden and his son for shaking down the Ukraine is a great idea.

        You know do this or no aid for you.

      5. “Eat your borscht you fucking moron”

        Da, Comrade! Truth is a bourgeois conceit and has no place in Glorious People’s Gulag of Bernoustan. And make sure you re-educate him about how all the evil and illegal things Obama and Hillary did are really Trump’s fault.

    2. Yeah, Sevo, what’s the point of all this, huh?

  27. “… as New Evidence Comes to Light“

    As new innuendo comes to light, perhaps?

  28. Trump plays whack-a-mole

    Pelosi plays chess

    1. GeneS
      January.15.2020 at 10:24 pm
      Lefty assertions are neither evidence nor arguments; you lose.

    2. Pelosi plays chess, but only has a mental capacity for checkers.

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  31. So using the power of government to endlessly search for a crime or in this case not a crime is such a libertarian cause. Yea go big state go!

    Shhhh on the FISA abuse, what FISA abuse

    Shhhhh on the trampling of 2A rights in VA, nothing to see there.

    Maybe we need a sex worker update form ENB. Dying to here about that very important issue.

    Reason is a fucking joke.

    1. they are “cosmo” libertarians not real libertarians. I’ve never heard Matt Welch talk monetary policy or the Fed….

  32. We all believe Trump knew what Guliani was doing no matter what he said. An undated note from a guy that is trying to save his own butt from prosecution saying that Trump knew is a big yawn.

  33. Yup. Bring the circus. If nobody seriously entertains the notion of calling Justin Trudeau in blackface and making him explain why Meghan Markle isn’t allowed to immigrate to Canada, they aren’t doing it right. Since it’s not a criminal process there’s nothing that says the politics can’t be administered via lead pipe and, apparently, Team D learned precisely nothing after Kavanaugh’s “hearing”. The worst that happens is it burns to the ground and Trump takes the blame, which is better than gulags.

    If there must be trouble…

    1. mad.casual….I know a three ring circus where Team R just calls a parade of witnesses and humiliates them on national TV would be very, very satisfying. I would probably enjoy that as well. The prospect of watching Brain Damaged Biden stumbling through questions, trying to put together 3 coherent sentences would be a spectacle. Putting POTUS Obama on the stand and making him squirm might be fun.

      But that path leads to civil disintegration and a complete breakdown of our constitutional order. We cannot have that. You do realize that we have 644,000 people dead from the last total breakdown in our constitutional order.

      The way to address this is via the ballot box. The ballot box is the ultimate check on impeachment powers.

  34. Bolshevik impeachment managers would have fit right in running Stalin’s holocaust of the Ukraine Farmers in the 30’s…come to think of it most of these folks seem to have come from Russian Communist Stock…funny how it’s always the same folks with Russian background always attacking liberty and freedom in this country.

    Trump is the head of the executive branch and his primary duty is to protect the country..if a major political candidate for President was in a position to be blackmailed by a foreign govt he needs to know..after all that is what Obama did to him.

    These people honestly like that hate mongering gov of Virginia actually want a war…scary times.

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