Foreign Servers No Longer Safe From Justice Department Snooping, Trade War With China Heats Up, Kremlin Says Trump Has Requested White House Summit With Putin: Reason Roundup
Plus: Hackers take over Atlanta, demand ransom to lift lock on city computers.


The Justice Department's digital reach now extends worldwide, thanks to the CLOUD Act. The Department of Justice (DOJ) has been quick to flex its new authority since President Trump signed the "CLOUD Act" into law in late March. On Friday, DOJ asked the Supreme Court to rule moot a case involving Microsoft's refusal to turn over emails stored on an Irish server. The emails concerned a suspect in a federal drug case.
The CLOUD Act says that a "provider of electronic communication service" must turn over court-ordered data "regardless of whether such communication, record or other information is located within or outside of the United States."
The Supreme Court had heard arguments in February in the Microsoft case, which revolved around whether a U.S. search warrant covers digital data stored on an overseas server by a U.S. company. But in light of the new law, the Court's services might not be necessary.
DOJ has already obtained a new search warrant demanding Microsoft to turn over the drug suspect's emails that are stored on a server in Dublin. "Microsoft no longer has any basis for suggesting that such a warrant is impermissibly extraterritorial," Solicitor General Noel J. Francisco wrote to the court. "There is thus no longer any live dispute between the parties, and the case is now moot."
This demand of Microsoft is one of the first visible, and chilling, effects of the CLOUD Act. In conjunction with FOSTA, the CLOUD Act marks March as a really terrible month for privacy, free speech, and an open internet in America, and it may signal some dark days ahead for anyone who values those things.
In the wake of Congress passing FOSTA (which makes facilitating or promoting prostitution a federal crime for which websites can be held legally liable for), some people have discussed the importance of foreign servers for shielding digital platforms and their users from prying prosecutors and legal liability. But even if the server is abroad, it's now also important that the company running the server have no U.S. ties, or else they could still be compelled under the CLOUD Act to fork over user data.
As the Electronic Frontier Foundation noted when the CLOUD Act passed, this measure "was never reviewed or marked up by any committee in either the House or the Senate. It never received a hearing. It was robbed of a stand-alone floor vote because Congressional leadership decided, behind closed doors, to attach this un-vetted, unrelated data bill to the $1.3 trillion government spending bill."
Judge sides with Metro over Milo. The D.C. Metro doesn't have to repost ads for Milo Yiannopoulos' book, or at least not yet, according to a weekend ruling from U. S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan. The public transit system (officially known as the Washington Metropolitan Area Transit Authority, or WMATA) had initially accepted and ran Yiannopoulous' ads but quickly pulled them down, citing customer complaints. Yiannopoulos sued. Now Chutkan's ruling (the first since the case was filed in August 2017) rejects Yiannopoulos' request for a preliminary injunction. From the decision:
WMATA reasonably concluded that Milo Worldwide's advertisements violated WMATA's prohibition on advertisements intended to influence public policy. WMATA therefore acted reasonably in excluding those advertisements, in view of its stated objective to reduce community and employee opposition, to diminish security risks, and to avoid vandalism and the burdens of administrative review.
No matter your opinion on Milo, Chutkan's decision—while preliminary—should be a disappointing one if you value the First Amendment.
The WMATA's rules regarding issue-based advertising are confusing, vague, and selectively applied—more a matter of which ads garner controversy, or could, than a blanket ban on any particular type of content. As WTOP notes, "Yiannopolous's case against Metro is a piece of a broader challenge against Metro's advertising restrictions backed by the American Civil Liberties Union." (Other plaintiffs include PETA and abortion clinic Carafem.) "Metro adopted the blanket ban on issue-oriented advertising and the related regulations in 2015 after an anti-Muslim activist attempted to place ads depicting the Prophet Muhammad," WTOP notes.
China taxes pork in prep for "trade war." In response to new Trump administration tariffs on Chinese goods, China announced tariff hikes on up to $3 billion in U.S. goods. An editorial in a state-backed Chinese Communist Party paper said "American politicians better realize sooner rather than later that China would never submit if the U.S. launched a trade war" and warned that "even though China and the U.S. have not publicly said they are in a trade war, the sparks of such a war have already started to fly.
The U.S. tariff increases would include a 15 percent hike on sparkling wine, fresh and dried fruits, and nuts. Scrap aluminum and pork products would see a 25 percent tariff increase. "The American pork industry sent $1.1 billion in products to China last year, making the Asian country the No. 3 market for U.S. pork," according to NBC News.
#BREAKING President Trump has proposed White House summit to Putin: Kremlin
— AFP news agency (@AFP) April 2, 2018
- French news agency AFP is reporting that "President Trump has proposed White House summit" to Vladimir Putin. "The Kremlin said on Monday no planning discussions had been held on [the summit] since the U.S. leader proposed the meeting in a phone call on March 20," according to Reuters.
- "Atlanta is under attack. Hackers have seized control of many of the city's computers and are demanding a ransom of $51,000 in bitcoin to release them." Yes, this is for real.
- Phew: The "rogue Chinese space station" that was plummeting toward earth wound up in an ocean.
- Roseanne Barr has been tweeting the gospel of QAnon, a Pizzagate conspiracy-theory offshoot.
- People are freaking out about Sinclair Broadcast Group, which owns 193 local TV stations in the U.S., making anchors give the same canned speech. The supposedly sinister script: a promise to report fairly, a warning about a lot of "fake news" out there, and a request that viewers comment on the websites "if you believer our coverage is unfair."
- New York has (yes, only just now) officially banned police officers from having sex with people in their custody, in response to the uproar over 18-year-old Anna Chambers, whom police admitted to having "consensual" sex with while she was handcuffed in their van.
- Trump considers several TV personalities among his close friends and advisers, but "what sets [Lou] Dobbs apart is the degree to which the president views him as a political and populism godfather, the #MAGA Socrates to Trump's Plato," reports The Daily Beast, citing sources that say Trump regularly included Dobbs on speakerphone in cabinet meetings.
- The latest absurd teen-panic in local news: the "condom-snorting challenge." Why would kids do this? "Because these days our teens are doing everything for likes, views and subscribers," Stephen Enriquez, "a state education specialist," told KPMH.
- The 2020 Census will ask if people are in same-sex or opposite-sex relationships.
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#BREAKING President Trump has proposed White House summit to Putin: Kremlin
? AFP news agency (@AFP) April 2, 2018
TO GET HIS ORDERS.
Unbelievable. They're not even trying to hide the extent of #TrumpRussia. As if it wasn't bad enough that Russia demanded Tillerson's firing (after having installed him in the first place).
#BlueWave
#Impeach
Roseanne Barr has been tweeting the gospel of QAnon, a Pizzagate conspiracy-theory offshoot.
Mikey and John are swooning.
and the Longtorso CT idiot too
Roseanne Bar is nothing but a closet liberal.
I would never watch that garbage show reboot. The fact that the media is teasing it as a Trump loving blue collar show means that it is not actually.
You're aware that Roseanne Barr is a real-life outspoken Trump supporter, right? Not everything fits into your simplistic little stereotyped categories, even in Hollywood.
What you obviously don't understand is that the lefties have leftied her lefty. Now lefties lefty and you don't get it because you're too lefty. Maybe you should try unleftying your lefty, lefty.
According to the left.
according to lefty leftist poser.
I know that I am really onto something when lefties get that spittle in the corner of their mouths from screaming gibberish.
spittle in the corner of their mouths from screaming gibberish.
Are you fingering your pussy to pictures of Joe Kennedy again?
Thanks for proving my point.
Poser, my advice is to keep all that spittle away from your electronic devices.
Now Roseanne is in on the multi-dimensional chess game. When will it ever end?!
The Roseanne is a new piece on the chessboard. While the took moves in straight lines and the bishop in diagonal, the Roseanne takes up all the squares at once.
I can't help but think about that opening credits scene of her laughing and raking in all the food in their poker game.
Roseanne is the chessboard. BOOM!
That would make the chess not only multi-dimensional but also adds curvature to the game. Lots and lots of curvature.
Actually, I'm waiting for the Donald to disavow her for spitting during the national anthem all those years ago. That has to be worse than kneeling, right?
In Einstein's geometric theory of gravity, the situation is described in a completely different way: A mass that we place in an region of space will lead to a distortion of space-time. Empty spacetime is flat - it looks exactly like the spacetime of special relativity. Spacetime in the presence of masses is curved.
So Roseanne is against abortion, hates gays, loves Hitler, loves Putin, supports gun rights, supports rolling back social security and medicare, supports rolling back government like Trump, huh?
If you would listen to what Roseanne Barr says, so is a closet liberal masquerading as a RINO.
...says, *she* is a closet liberal...
She's a closet something alright...
She might have eaten the closet?
I'm not Roseanne's publicist, homeboy, i'm just pointing out that she supported Trump for whatever her own reasons were. Those reasons could very well overlap with that mishmash of nonsense you typed, but who knows.
She's so lefty that her lefties have lefties.
...among lefties.
OOoooohhh. I really touched a nerve. Citizen felt the need to add some typical gibberish defense.
OOoooohhh. I really touched a nerve.
I bet you actually believe this.
Poser, thanks for proving my point.
Its evident in what, when, where and why you post.
Roseanne is a 90s liberal, which is basically what Trump is.
This is also probably the biggest reason that Trump won, he stole the thinking Democrats.
A 90's liberal would never try and roll back government like Trump has partially succeeded and partially failed in doing.
Honestly, Trump is a classification all his own. He's not Libertarian and certainly not a Republican who wants to control social morals. Trump has some big state tendencies but only in certain areas. Trump does not publicly support the 2A 100% but has yet to do anything but allow the ban on bump stocks. Trump nominated an originalist justice to the SOCTUS and Thomas is really the only other justice like that. Trump tries to put American interests ahead of foreigners which is certainly no Democrat Party policy.
Bill Clinton and Trump are very different and many people consider William Jefferson Clinton to be a 90's liberal.
ROFL. Your buddy Lizzie seriously believes that woman in prison in the Ukraine or Belarus or whatever has secret inside information about the election. And I'll bet you and many of your other dipshit buddies in the JournoList believe it too.
Both of you go make a fucking sandwich.
Way to start strong. You may want to pace yourself though.
"Atlanta is under attack. Hackers have seized control of many of the city's computers and are demanding a ransom of $51,000 in bitcoin to release them." Yes, this is for real.
As someone from an organization that has been hit several times with ransomware, I have no sympathy. How can an organization that size not have safeguards in place? No DR? No data backup?
They learned nothing from Sherman.
Mr. Peabody is also being ignored.
They'll have to recover their data from the Wayback Machine.
It's the WABAC machine, poser.
/cartoon nerd'd
"a ransom of $51,000 in bitcoin"
At yesterday's price or tomorrow's?
Isn't that hard drive with 1500 bitcoin on it sitting in an Atlanta landfill?
The backup servers were kept in a Waffle House kitchen, and one of the cooks accidently poured grease on them , then another cook fried them and served them, and then the customers ate them.
Scattered-smothered-covered & chunked is an Awful House specialty.
I like my computer serves smothered and covered please.
The "rogue Chinese space station" that was plummeting toward earth wound up in an ocean.
Here's some more Made in China junk for you, ocean.
Roseanne Barr has been tweeting the gospel of QAnon, a Pizzagate conspiracy-theory offshoot.
Someone sure knows how to market a TV show.
what sets [Lou] Dobbs apart is the degree to which the president views him as a political and populism godfather
hurl
ditto
Butt is watching FOX again?
Come on, PB, we know you love his hair.
The 2020 Census will ask if people are in same-sex or opposite-sex relationships.
Sometimes when you're in a relationship and you have a kid and a lot of stuff going on in your life, you have to find little moments here and there for physical intimacy, and sometimes you do end up having the same sex as you did the last several times. It's just one of those things. I'm not sure what business it is of the Census Bureau's, though.
For most married men, same-sex = right hand and opposite-sex = left hand.
+1 The Stranger
The only people knocking it are those who haven't tried it... yet
STEVE SMITH TEACH. NO CHARGE.
Is The Stranger where you sit on your hand until it goes numb, and then gives yourself a hand job with the numb hand, so it feels like you are getting a hand job from a stranger that has a numb arm?
Yes.
Or The Strangler, 'cause choking the chicken, in the case of SIV.
SIV prides himself on being a respectful lover, and so hates the phrase "choking the chicken."
So I guess I'm in a threesome?
BUCS just slaps it back and forth like a bear with a balloon.
BUCS watching some 70s porn.
The placement of the fist "around back" does not make it a threesome
No option for no-sex relationships?
They cover that at the Libertarian Party presidential nominating convention.
New York has (yes, only just now) officially banned police officers from having sex with people in their custody...
...unless they turn their bodycams off first.
That's misleading. What they really did is turn the serious crime of rape (a person you arrested cannot give consent) into a slap on the wrist for police. They didn't even go before a judge to see if those idiots and their ridiculous theory about there being no specific law had merit (doubtful). The case is pending. I doubt rape charges would be filed against cops if there was no legal merit.
The police are above the law. Only department policy applies. If there is no department policy against rape, than they can rape whomever they want, whenever they want.
+1 hide yo kids, hide yo wife
+1 you gotta link to the rap since it's super catchy
Ever notice how in all these police murders and other obvious breaches of the law by those who enforce it, they only get into trouble if they violated department policy? Otherwise it's the standard "Policies were followed. Nothing to see here." response.
You rights end at their policies.
In practice we have no rights. Cops do whatever they want, and nothing else happens.
Off-topic: Worst Reason troll, championship.
Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot vs. Weigel's Cock Ring
RJSP has won every match unanimously but has only gotten four votes total. WCR has been involved in two ties, but has also garnered 7 votes in both of his straight-up wins. RJSP's vote total has been 4-0 thus far, while WCR has held at 17-5.
It all comes down to this. The worst Reason troll is either Robespierre Josef Stalin Pot or Weigel's Cock Ring.
Final round, go!
Simple Mikey. It's not even close.
Mikey for the win.
For the record, shreek here is a far more grating troll than Robespierre, who is lazy and ineffective at best/worst. But i've already registered my objections to the bracket process elsewhere.
Palin's Buttplug was in the same division as RJSP when all this started. He lost 3-0.
Yes, my fellow commenters fucked all the way up on that one.
+1 RJSP
shrike has made me laugh out loud on several occasions. RJSP has never been funny. Not once. Ever. Not even on accident.
Good Lord, I meant Mike M. (WCR) has made me laugh.
Moar coffee please.
Meh, they're the same guy anyway.
We're all Tulpa down here.
Too late! Once your ballot has been cast it can't be taken back.
Enh, I'm pretty sure Aloysious was saying that he accidentally referred to WCR as shrike.
Do you count write-in candidates?
I counted them once.
ONCE.
Have to go WCR. In his heyday, as AmSoc, he may have out-trolled Domikeydent, but it seems RJSP doesn't even try anymore (not that I'm complaining).
Mike Weigel
Mike Tulpa Weigel Stack
Weigel's Cock Ring wins the championship, 4-1! In celebration, I'm gonna change my name for the next week.
"Atlanta is under attack. Hackers have seized control of many of the city's computers and are demanding a ransom of $51,000 in bitcoin to release them."
Tryna make that paper, boi.
I've been re-watching the Wire for the first time since it originally aired, and it's definitely impacting the way I communicate. My Queens native slang has been peppering my otherwise softened dialect.
But it's still better than the diatribes I was writing after watching Deadwood again.
It's funny how that happens. I have a certain quantity of Appalachian hill-folk in my ancestry, and binge watching Justified fucked up my accent and vocal cadences for months.
Citizen X kept summoning his dog with "Com'ere, Boyd!" for months after watching Justified. His dog now only responds to "Boyd."
True.
The 2020 Census will ask if people are in same-sex or opposite-sex relationships.
Buttsex still a big concern in conservative land.
Don't kid yourself. They're just as worried about scissoring.
I suspect there's going to be a lot of lonely single people denying they're in a same-sex relationship with themselves.
Masturbation is so gay.
Americans need to find out how little the gay population really is so we can ignore them.
Oh, honey, we're definitely not little. Gimme a call, I'll prove it to ya.
Less than .05% of the USA population. Like I said little.
You must be what they call a bear. Aggress....ive.
I constantly have vagina smell on my fingers, so its like your kryptonite.
I haven't looked in years, but last I checked it was ~1.9% of males and 2.5% of females...
Still, it is such a tiny minority as to not even register. Most Americans when polled think that ~25% of the US population is gay.
And what's the Muslim population in the US? When it's gays, it's a tiny minority. When it's Muslims, it's ermagerd, imminent Sharia law incoming!!!
Is there a gay law that I am not aware of.
Muslim dogma does advocate Sharia law
"Shari'a is not a legal system. It is the overall way of life of Islam, as people understand it according to traditional, early interpretations. These early interpretations date from 700 to 900 CE, not long after the Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) died in 632 CE. Shari'a can evolve with Islamic societies to address their needs today.
...
It can be changed based on new interpretations in order to achieve justice and equality for Muslim women in their families and communities today.
... Family law in Islamic countries today should be guided by fair social policies, as well as Islamic principles that do not distort the Qur'an."
Muslims for Progressive..blah blah blah
I know, it's pretty amazing that such a tiny minority causes so much trouble, and is responsible for such a large amount of political violence in our nation.
I think most Americans were coming around to being tolerant of gay lifestyles and saying who cares what people do in their lives.
In other words, mass support for repealing all unconstitutional social crimes "sodomy laws" between consenting gay adults.
Then Americans were forced to bake cakes against their religious convictions.
Less than .05% of the USA population. Like I said little.
I think the CDC placed it at around 1.5% who identified as gay, but that's not much higher. People tend to believe the gay population is a lot larger than it is because the community tends to gravitate within the mass media and the arts, and coalesce in places like downtown urban areas since most of them don't have kids to worry about.
Be! Aggressive! B! E! Aggressive! B! E! A-G-G! R-E-S-S-I-V-E!
I live near the ATL. Yuge gay population. I get it.
Among lefties.
Among homos more like it.
The crosswalks at 10th and Piedmont are rainbows...
It's kinda cool, but not for the $190k they spent
You can bet Amazon HQ2 will be coming to greater ATL area. All the right virtue signals have been up for years.
I always laugh when lefties move to Georgia find out how lax gun laws are here.
They are surprised to find so many racist Democrats here. They really believed all those racists became Republicans in exactly 1965.
Everyone is at least slightly gay according to scien... well I read it on... well someone told me they read it on the internet.
"I constantly have vagina smell on my fingers"
Get yourself some vagisil, so you won't have to scratch so much.
Wouldn't that be a vagina smell coming from my vagina? Geesh. You guys cannot even get your putdowns out without a misfire.
Do you not understand how scratching works?
"Lovecon89, honey, com'ere and scratch mamma's special place again. You know I can't quite reach down there."
I would have to dig my mother up to do that, so no thanks.
I know its hard to fathom some of us on here don't live with their parents like you do.
That's actually a decent burn, lc. Good job. Also, i like the implication that the difficulty of exhumation is the main thing keeping you from touching your mom's junk.
I can tell where she is buried, so you can mess with her. Only a dead person would laugh at your little jokes.
How does scratching work your vagina work again, Citizen?
If you're looking for tips or advice, i have none to offer you.
You were going to give us all your vagina scratching knowledge.
Let's hear it.
I constantly have vagina smell on my fingers, so its like your kryptonite.
You don't really think anyone believes this, do you?
Plot twist: lc1789 is trans and can't stop masturbating.
That is the less disgusting option considering he claims to be some 80 year old retired dude.
If you had a 11 inch penis, you would be masturbating all the time too.
Redboi, you're jealous and we all see it.
Smell my fingers to find out. I suspect you might not be able to get out of your parent's basement to make the trip.
Since you probably don't know what vagina smells like, think bearded fish taco.
If you had a 11 inch penis
Smell my fingers to find out.
Oh for crying out loud. There is such a thing as taking it too far. I'll bet you're the cock of the retirement home...
Because only an old person could school you whipper-snappers like I did?
There is such a thing as taking it too far.
If only your mom would have taken your partial abortion farther.
Two of the words you used to describe a smell are more typically used in visual descriptions of the external genitalia, lc. Either you're dumb and bad at metaphors, or you've got a really fucked up case of synesthesia.
Lc1789 is morphing into a combination of dunphy and cytotoxic. It's kinda fascinating.
I think cytotoxic should be entering high school soon. I wonder how his smart mouth will go over with the football players when he tries to convince them he should be on the team.
Homeschool doesn't have a football team, Chipper.
Look, I got the bois all flustered and they are making all sorts of assumptions to make themselves feel better.
I was going to go out and buy some barrels for election 2018 lefty tears. I will pick up one for y'all and your tears.
Citizen, it is so cute that you are trying with all your might and mental energy.
Keep up the below average work fella.
Geez, lc, no need to be so defensive about being trans. Nobody here is judging you.
Look at all the bois here defending each other: Poser, Citizen, Baculum, and Redboi.
Its kinda fascinating.
Gay bois are always so bad at jokes and putdowns.
I guess all those years of safe spaces instead of defending themselves. You should stick with being less than .05% of the USA population and not having progeny.
Chill, lc, there's still a "T" in "LGBT".
Is that where somebody can get the worst TCBY yogurt?
If you're feeling picked on, maybe try not typing the dumbest possible shit all day every day? It's worth a shot.
If people didn't pick on him then he'd get no interaction at all.
Who needs interaction on here? Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
Funny though, Poser thinks him and bois they have the skills to pick on someone. All those years of safe spaces gives you the delusion that you are real bully.
Is that how you FEELZ- Picked on? Poor Citizen and his bois.
Maybe you should typing the dumbest shit eva all day, every day.
Chill, lc. We're all cool with you being trans. No need to lash out at us. We're not going to make fun of you for that, okay? You don't need to be all angry about being born in the wrong body. Okay? We're here for you.
I would be loud and proud if I was a mental defective transtestical. I mean, I would be crazy and delusional about what body I am in.
"Roseanne Barr has been tweeting the gospel of QAnon, a Pizzagate conspiracy-theory offshoot."
Meanwhile, so called "reporters" are writing bat shit crazy conspiracy theories about how the NRA is a pawn of Russia.
Roseanne's crime isn't that she is tweeting conspiracy theories, since the bulk of our media is doing the exact same thing. Her crime is that she is tweeting the wrong conspiracy theory.
Thou shalt not distract from the narrative!
http://www.npr.org/2018/03/01/5900769.....s-revealed
It's not a conspiracy theory! It's confirmed true!!!! You Republicans are all in the pockets of the Russians!
So you're saying you're good with it when reporters write nonsense about Russia.
Cool, you sound like an idiot.
As usual, you make no sense Retaxas.
But, it should also be noted that this very publication reprinted Steve Chapman pimping the craziest of bat shit conspiracy theories this morning that Dr. Jackson is a "Trump toadie" who lied about the president's health. Chapman fails to note that Dr. Jackson was also President Obama's doctor during his administration.
But, sure let's keep pretending like people parroting conspiracy theories are bad.
Even though those complaining about conspiracy theories are the biggest promoters of conspiracy theories.
Just a reminder that Judge Napolitano's columns were dropped by this neoliberal publication for pushing a so called "conspiracy theory" that is actually proving to be close to the truth. Chapman's conspiracy theory has no basis in reality beyond media echo chambers.
I don't remember that too well, but it rings a bell... what was Napolitano pushing that they dropped him over?
Aw, shit, I just Googled it. I'm shocked I'd forgotten about this happening. They dropped Napolitano over his pointing out that a British Spy was hired by Obama Admin officials to spy on Trump and his employees. Fuck. This has actually been proven to be true. Or are we stuck on the technicality that Steele isn't currently a British state-employee, but a "contractor" for their intelligence services?
He claimed that British intelligence gathered the information used by American intelligence to receive FISA warrants for spying on Trump campaign officials.
Chris Steele was a former British intelligence official who created the infamous dossier. While, Steele was not working for British intelligence when he did this project and we are not sure if the dossier was the sole basis for FISA warrants against Carter Page and the like, his suggestion was not as insane as the "Dr. Jackson lied about the president's weight!" nonsense that Chapman was pimping this morning.
If anyone doesn't think some of Steele's intelligence was laundered from the British government, and the 5 eyes program, they are idiots.
Nap got thrown under the bus for striking far too close to home. Ah well, he will be vindicated.
Irritates me that Reason won't touch the domestic spying shit on Trump with a 10ft pole. Principals over principles here at Reason.
If you continue to believe that this is a libertarian publication then I can understand being irritated. But, if you just accept reality that this is a neoliberal publication then you won't get so upset.
Why are you complaining about Chapman when you like conspiracy theories?
How exactly did I state that I like conspiracy theories?
The only conspiracy theory that I've pimped is: "Hail Rataxes is not mentally retarded". And I only pushed that theory out of being cordial.
You, sarcastically: "let's keep pretending like people parroting conspiracy theories are bad."
I mean, you're not actually scolding the media for parroting conspiracy theories. You're only scolding them for hypocrisy, and you're not scolding Rosanne or Judge Nap at all.
And you don't see how that adds up to you being fine with conspiracy theories, just not fine with "the media."
I mean this with all due respect, Rataxes, but learn how to read. At no point was I defending Roseanne's crazy pizzagate conspiracy theory. I was noting that it is rich hearing the media criticizing someone for pushing a conspiracy theory when that is all the media has been doing for the past year.
And Napolitano's "conspiracy theory" has turned out to have more validity than the Russia fever dream stories that were pushed here or the Chapman insane conspiracy theory about the president's doctor lying about his weight.
I'm not the one who has a reading problem. Where did I say you "defended" her? I said you didn't criticize her.
I realize the echo chamber isn't the best place to hone your arguments but you can do better than this.
Sorry for not saying what you demand that I say when I am discussing something else. Your take is so unbelievably dumb here that I instantly regret pushing the conspiracy theory that you are not mentally retarded.
Are you going to condemn the bat shit crazy conspiracy theory about Russia and the NRA? No, because all you believe is the echo chamber.
Didn't Don Lemon believe that a black hole swallowed that missing plane CNN obsessed over for a year?
Didn't Chris Cuomo state it is ILLEGAL for non-reporters to read the leaked DNC emails?
Not sure how Roseanne is more "batshit nuts" than, you know, basically the entirety of CNN.
Trump considers several TV personalities among his close friends and advisers, but "what sets [Lou] Dobbs apart is the degree to which the president views him as a political and populism godfather, the #MAGA Socrates to Trump's Plato..."
AH! Lou Dobbs.
So if formerly fat Lou Dobbs is Socrates and the Donald is Plato, who, pray tell, is Aristotle?
Michael Hihn.
Shit, man.
Hihn is like 1000 years old. There's no way he learned anything from The Donald.
If you read Aristotle in the original ancient Greek, he keeps calling Plato a bully, snickers a lot, and uses an extra thick feather like every other sentence.
The latest absurd teen-panic in local news: the "condom-snorting challenge."
We still haven't fully explored to my satisfaction clown panic.
Nasal is just the latest way to maintain one's V-card.
Drunken idiots were doing this back in 2001
The 2020 Census will ask if people are in same-sex or opposite-sex relationships.
Just as the Founders envisioned.
To be fair, the Founders almost certainly would have been opposed to changing the definition of marriage in the first place.
Gay marriage could have been added to the Constitution via an amendment but the left took it another way.
One thing the Founders loved was unchecked power over all Americans by the Judicial Branch. Its why the justices were to have lifetime appointments.
"Gay marriage could have been added to the Constitution"
Would you have to amend the marriage clause of Article 1 or Article 2?
Is that where you think the "right to gay marry" is located?
No I'm just wondering why you think we need a constitutional amendment to address something not in the constitution, aka not really in the scope of federal government.
Although, technically we did amend the constitution to cover it... Unless of course you think "equal protection under the law" doesn't cover *icky* people.
To add gay marriage as a protected right.
Gay marriage never has been an acknowledged right in the USA.
Women voting was not an acknowledged and protected right until 1920 and the 19th Amendment.
I don't think gay people are icky. Clearly you do since you assume others think they are "icky". Marriage has traditionally been between a man and woman and that is how America was set up. I personally don't care what gay people do except when you want to force others to accept your delusion that being gay is normal. The correct procedure is to get an amendment passed protecting gay marriage.
Does it matter if the other person is a citizen or not? How will a bi-sexual polygamist answer the question? Are there dogs and cats living together in your home?
Fill out the chart in Appendix A then add the total to the chart for question 22 subquestion iii then take the total from that and use it to begin Form 8501.
Or just tear up the census form and flush it down the toilet. Don't forget to flush twice, cause it's a long way to Washington, D.C.
Recent polls put Trump approval at 50%, disapproval less, which officially makes Trump democracy.
http://m.rasmussenreports.com/.....rack_apr02
Almost as popular as Hitler.
Glad I'm allowed to believe polls again.
It is funny that even biased polls cannot hide the fact that Trump is getting more popular.
Its almost as if less lefty bias on polls equates to better polling conclusions.
Foreign Servers No Longer Safe From Justice Department Snooping
They never have been, they just no longer give a shit if everybody knows it.
...Congressional leadership decided, behind closed doors, to attach this un-vetted, unrelated data bill to the $1.3 trillion government spending bill.
Bankrupting the United States in every way possible shouldn't require several individual pieces of legislation.
Achieving moral bankruptcy is a different set of challenges than reaching the financial kind. Intellectual bankruptcy is, however, innate.
This is an election year Fist. Do you really expect our representatives to have to take time out of their busy schedules to vote on multiple bills?
Remember, the Republicans losing Congress is ALL Trump.
And totally NOT them doing, well, shit like this.
Who gets credit when Republicans gain more seats in Congress in election 2018?
Today's kids will speak of internet freedom to their kids like we speak to them about our physical freedom. Great while it lasted, then slowly taken away by bad solutions to irrational paranoia about drug dealers, sex criminals, and terrorists, until there was virtually none left.
"Roseanne Barr has been tweeting the gospel of QAnon, a Pizzagate conspiracy-theory offshoot."
In the 21st century, sitcoms make for strange bedfellows.
London Murder Rate Higher than New York City's For the First Time Ever
"The Met Police has launched 44 murder investigations in 2018, 31 of which have been as a result of stabbings."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-43610936
There are two reasons to be skeptical of these statistics.
For one, guns are illegal in the UK, so no one has them. Because no one has guns, the murder rate in London will always be lower than in the UK. People don't use knives to kill each other because knives are icky.
Secondly, these statistics would seem to reinforce the standard logic of gun rights activists, and, as we all know, if gun rights activists say something, then it can't be true. Their logic is simply unacceptable by virtue of its source.
For goodness' sake, some of those gun rights activists are fucking patriotic.
I don't know the cause, honestly, because I haven't delved into this much. I did see some British people claiming that the real culprit to be blamed is Sadiq Kahn and his policies. Particularly they cited that he moved 900 cops from actually trying to deal with real crimes to focusing on rooting out internet trolls and prosecuting them; as well as his ending of their equivalent of "Stop and Frisk".
If anyone actually has looked into it, I'd be interested to hear their thoughts.
Everybody's looking to their own arguments.
Some are blaming it on refugees.
In that story, the police are reacting to the end of "stop and frisk".
"Police can't just arrest or stop and search their way out of this problem; it has to be done in partnership with the communities."
That's what the police said in the story. I'm sure that's what they were referring to.
That last bit about "partnership with the communities" sounds like something Obama would say when he plans on doing absolutely nothing, though, doesn't it?
As with most things in life, it's probably got a complex series of factors. It may well be a combination of several of the items that are being blamed.
If it's true that they Mayor moved 900 officers from dealing with real crimes to policing the internet trolls who mock Allah I wouldn't be shocked to find out that had an effect on a lot of violent crime.
Right, and whether he should do that just t get the murder rate down is another question entirely.
If adding easy access to guns would make the murder rate itself worse wouldn't be the end of the argument either.
Getting people to realize that life is a convoluted mess of conflicting statistics, principles, and values--rather than a problem to be solved by electing this or that politician--is half the battle.
whether he should do that just t get the murder rate down is another question entirely.
Yup. There's the question of whether or not it will reduce murder (and other crime) but that doesn't address at all whether or not it is a good policy to enforce. Should they curtail the rights of the people and subject them to random searches at the whims of police is a separate issue to be addressed.
This blurb from Al-Jazeera on the subject reads like a boilerplate lament for American ghetto violence--minorities hardest hit, mo' money fo' dem programs, etc.
Maybe England should outlaw guns. That would end violence in that country.
(should I add the /s?)
Check out these quotes:
"New York has been able to bring down serious violence through a public health approach," she said.
. . . .
Meanwhile, the government has launched a ?1.35m campaign aimed at 10 to 21-year-olds.
The adverts to run across social media and digital channels feature stories of teenagers who have been stabbed.
One of the things they should try is teaching skills on how to effectively communicate with people who are trying to stab you. They could teach kids in school how to grovel for their lives. Make sure they know how to call 911. And most of all, it's important that these kids get the counseling services they need after they've been the subject of a knife attack. Make sure they can express their feelings without resorting to more knife violence.
I had a guy try to rob me with a knife once. Unfortunately for him, I was/am armed.
I could no see my own facial reaction, but I seem to recall that my brain had me smiling when in the blink of the robber's eyes, I had a pistol aimed at him.
Score +1 for Amendment 2.
That confrontation was never counted, as a crime averted stat, since the guy ran away and I never reported it to police.
A third reason for suspicion would be that "first time ever". When you're dealing with such low numbers, it's hard to believe that London has never seen one good killing spree that pushed their numbers up. And that's assuming you don't count The Blitz as murder.
+1 bought Manhattan for 24 dollars in beads
That "first time ever" was from the Daily Mail story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....-days.html
I hate linking to them. They suck.
Why would they include acts of war as murder?
Yeah! Murders committed by governments should never count as murders, because... uh... hmm.
You think gun control is likely to stop the Nazis from bombing the UK again?
You think failing to respond to Hitler's annexation of Czechoslovakia explains the crime rate?
Why would you mix war statistics and crime statistics together to make policy about what to do in regards to crime?
As soon as anyone sees your war statistics included, they're not going to nod their heads and agree with your big picture point about how war is murder. They're just going to call you out for intellectual dishonesty.
There is an interesting correlation between murder and war in that the murder rate back home almost invariably goes up during times of war--and that's cross culturally and throughout history. Apart from that distortion, why would anyone evaluate gun control, stop and frisk, etc. in terms of the murder rate on the basis of bombs being dropped on people by foreign governments?
It doesn't make any sense.
I was merely taking your singular comment out of context to insert a point about the nature of violence. Chill out.
Citizen never says whoops, I made a big mistakey.
Other people have to "chill out" based on what he says.
I knew what i was doing, Even Simpler Mikey.
Interesting how crazy people like you don't even know they are crazy.
That's a hell of an own goal, lc.
Thanks for proving my point, Citizen.
Poe's Law.
Somethin' Somethin'
There's an idiot down thread telling me that pCloud isn't giving free storage space to consumers because TANSTAAFL--and he's not kidding in the least.
There's an idiot down thread telling me that pCloud isn't giving free storage space to consumers because TANSTAAFL--and he's not kidding in the least.
"Like, totally not kidding, like, at all. I get free internet storage space and free internet encryption and it's free because they said it's free and there's no way possible there's any reason that free stuff might be problematic because FREE!"
Yeah! Casualties from a foreign nation bombing and shelling a city are totally the same as civilian homicide rates and they shouldn't be judged separately at all because a death is a death.
Why not include manslaughter in the numbers while we're at it because there's a dead person, it's someone else's fault, and the term has the word "slaughter" in it.
It also has the word "laughter" in it. And as we all know, laughter is the best medicine.
Is it possible we have been using the term incorrectly all these years? What if it isn't the combination of "man-slaughter" but "man's-laughter"?
Dude, it's always been "man's laughter." "Vehicular man's laughter" was what they were aiming for with Turbo Teen.
If you study history, back in the old days targeting civilian populations was considered a war crime - i.e. murder rather than an act of war. I realize we've progressed beyond that and everybody knows "civilian populations" has been redefined as "collateral damage" but some of us old-fashioned types still think of things like ISIS fighters slaughtering concert-goers as a criminal act, not as soldiers waging war.
Which, come to think of it, if you're going to attribute the rise in killings in London to Muslim terrorists, well, they're soldiers waging jihad so those are just acts of war, not murders. Right?
"The Met Police has launched 44 murder investigations in 2018, 31 of which have been as a result of stabbings."
"Phbbbt." - Chicago PD
The D.C. Metro doesn't have to repost ads for Milo Yiannopoulos' book, or at least not yet, according to a weekend ruling from U. S. District Judge Tanya Chutkan.
When will women and the gays bury the hatchet? There are plenty of eligible men out there for everyone.
"Because these days our teens are doing everything for likes, views and subscribers," Stephen Enriquez, "a state education specialist," told KPMH.
Even advocate removal of some of their own individual liberties.
Zero chance that these amazing kids are floating wacky stories to sucker the grownups. Right?
The thing that kids are really learning from growing up is that the majority of adults are just as stupid as everyone in middle school.
"Atlanta is under attack. Hackers have seized control of many of the city's computers and are demanding a ransom of $51,000 in bitcoin to release them." Yes, this is for real.
This has been news in Georgia for over a week.
too local
Also not a story since nobody noticed any difference when Atlanta's computers were down for a week. They've only got three of them, two of them are Amiga's and nobody actually knows how to operate them.
I hear their DMV is still using a Timex Sinclair.
I get in and out of the Georgia DMV in about 10 minutes, so whatever they are using. It's good enough to get me done quickly.
In your case, they're using a Dukes of Hazzard coloring book and four crayons.
All I have to do is draw your face as the steaming turd that it is, and pay my fee.
Boom license renewal.
I hope that you don't mind, I used auburn for your face. You seem extra soupy today.
That's a really clever retort. I'm glad i'm able to inspire you to such creative heights.
I learned from you and all your gibberish.
Do you even understand how insults work? You just said the DMV uses a turd as your picture.
"Chipper Morning Baculum|4.2.18 @ 11:53AM|#
Do you even understand how insults work? You just said the DMV uses a turd as your picture."
Do you?
I don't have a picture on my vehicle license plate renewal. I doubt your state does that either.
I have a 30 year expiration date on my drivers license.
You people crack me up. So dumb.
Yeah, Chipper, you're dumb for thinking that lc meant "license renewal" when he said "license renewal" instead of knowing that he meant "license plate renewal." So, so dumb. Also, what kind of idiot doesn't know that lc chose the 30 year driver's license, an option that doesn't actually exist in Georgia? Sad!
What do you people call license plates?
Citizen never admits when he stupidly posts something. He assumed that license meant "driver's license"
Then when I point out that I don't need to go to the DMV for driver's license renewal because my driver's license is good for 30 years, Citizen signals the bois.
Citizen, why would I discuss (my) driver's license when I don't need to go to the DMV for that for the next 20 years?
Citizen does not even know anything about Georgia driver's licenses for veterans.
Citizen never admits when he is wrong. Its somebody else's fault. Sad!
Computerpocalypse 2018!
I have no reason to believe that these settings are being enforced any more than they have been since the 2011 consent decree. From a friend who is a some-time programmer of facebook account automation, it's just like they replaced the fake thermostat on an office building wall with a fancier touch screen thermostat. It's still not hooked to anything.
If you are not paying for the service, you are the product being sold.
Crap. link
"The CLOUD Act says that a "provider of electronic communication service" must turn over court-ordered data "regardless of whether such communication, record or other information is located within or outside of the United States."
For those of you who'd like to know . . .
There's a service called "pCloud". It works like Dropbox with a couple of differences.
Perhaps the biggest difference from a data privacy perspective is that all of pCloud's servers are in Switzerland, and are, thus, subject to Switzerland's privacy laws rather than the EU or any treaty with the USA. Swiss companies are subject to Swiss privacy laws--the U.S. government needs to get a subpoena from a Swiss court*, but getting a subpoena from a Swiss court isn't easy. There are jurisdictional questions, questions of Swiss privacy law, evidence rules necessary for a Swiss warrant, etc., etc.
In other words, just because the U.S. government says it has jurisdiction over private Swiss servers doesn't mean the government of Switzerland agrees.
Isn't it great that we can take steps to help protect our privacy without having to depend on politicians or the courts? If we were completely dependent on the government to protect our rights, that would totally suck.
*I am not a lawyer. Seek legal expertise.
P.S. I believe pCloud still offers 8 GB free of charge.
What exactly are you hiding, "Ken Shultz"? Is it really that important that the US government doesn't get its hands on your sugar cookie recipe?
It's proof of the government's conspiracy to wipe out sea otters, is what.
You want a good cookie recipe? I tried this one last week. Fabulous!
I'm not big on lemony confections. I've always had good luck with other recipes from that site though.
I'm a sucker for just about any lemon cookie. Except those abominations the Girl Scouts are selling. They used to have these lemon sandwich cookies that were divine. Now they dip shortbread into frosting. I hate eating crap like that because I don't want frosting on my fingers. Bastards.
Try these then. OM f'ing G! I double the fresh ginger, cut way back on the dried ginger, and add a 1/2 tsp allspice.
I make gingerbread loaves instead of cookies. I'm the only one in my house that eats it usually. I got a good recipe from allrecipes.com for it.
I make that from time to time. Good stuff. Best when fresh out of the oven. Yum.
Since I quit drinking I've become a fiend for sweets. Body craves those empty calories.
Just for the record, . . .
The more people who have nothing to hide learn to protect their own privacy by using this stuff, the more we'll get back to the balance we once knew--when the government couldn't invade our privacy this way because 1) technical limitations and 2) because it was prohibitively expensive for the govenrment to invade our privacy that way.
In many cases, the privacy maximizing option is the better option for other reasons, too.
I like pCloud better than Dropbox because with pCloud, the data doesn't stay on your hard drive--so for a notebook computer with limited storage, especially a Chromebook or a phone, that's a benefit.
Another benefit--where Dropbox gives you 2 GB for free, last I remember, pCloud would give you 8 GB for free.
In this case, the privacy maximizing option is better than the consumer leader in other ways, too. It's not even an inconvenience. It doesn't even cost any money. They want to sell you more space and automated, client side only encryption, but you can simply use Veracrypt and do it all for free.
For the record, if you make the entirety of your life available to anyone who cares on the Internet, I'm not sure "invasion of privacy" is the correct terminology.
I suppose you're entitled to your ideas. Other people may be concerned about their privacy online regardless of what you think.
Meanwhile, encrypting data locally and storing it on a private server is about privacy. Meanwhile, government surveillance is about privacy rights.
I have to agree with Sparky that "invasion of privacy" might not be the correct term. Data transfer is more like it.
""Meanwhile, government surveillance is about privacy rights."'
What privacy rights? There's third party doctrine, and the fact that every privacy policy is about what they CAN do with your information, not what they cannot. That should be renamed as "anti-privacy policy", but that might actually cause people to pay attention.
The government's definition of privacy has changed. The idea that it's about keeping information between two entities doesn't really exist anymore. It's about who gets to see your information, and government loves data sharing of YOUR data.
Just to be clear, client side encryption stored on a second party's server is not sharing that information with a second party.
pCloud couldn't open the files In encrypt on my side even if they wanted to do so.
I have not shared any information with them. Using a Veracrypt container, they don't even know the file size.
My expectations of privacy remain just as they would be if it were on my own hard drive. I haven't shared anything with anybody by encrypting it and storing it on pCloud.
Ken, we shall see if Poser understands the difference now that you had to explain to him.
He is probably an iArmy guy who used to companies like Apple who say they have great encryption and don't even have good encryption.
On an Apple note, I always laugh when Apple users that I know are shocked when they have virus and malware infected equipment. They believed Apple would never let that happen.
I simply reply "That is what happens when you are in bed with government to create substandard customer encryption so the government can spy easier".
do it all for free
Something something free lunch.
Because no one gets for free doesn't mean you can't.
And with pCloud they're giving you free storage space.
Are you saying that isn't free to the consumer?
And with Veracrypt, they're giving you free, client side only encryption.
Are you saying that isn't free to the consumer?
Do you genuinely not understand the concept?
Are you just being willfully obtuse?
Do you genuinely not understand the concept?
Of free stuff? Sure, I understand free stuff.
Are you saying that isn't free to the consumer?
Obviously that's all that matters.
All that matters? That was the point!
"In this case, the privacy maximizing option is better than the consumer leader in other ways, too. It's not even an inconvenience. It doesn't even cost any money. They want to sell you more space and automated, client side only encryption, but you can simply use Veracrypt and do it all for free."
----Ken Shultz
Consumers can use Veracrypt to locally encrypt their files and pCloud to store 8GB worth on the cloud--free of charge.
Calling you willfully obtuse for not understanding that was giving you the benefit of the doubt. The other obvious explanation was less kind.
Calling you willfully obtuse for not understanding that was giving you the benefit of the doubt. The other obvious explanation was less kind.
Yeah, I'm the dumb one here. Totally. You're like a modern day prophet, "Ken Shultz".
As long as you're willing to admit that poser.
What's the saying? "If you're not paying for the service, then you are the product"?
How does the govt think they have jurisdiction over info overseas? Can they also get you for consuming illegal drugs, or picking a pocket, or whatever overseas?
"what sets [Lou] Dobbs apart is the degree to which the president views him as a political and populism godfather, the #MAGA Socrates to Trump's Plato," reports The Daily Beast
Lou Dobbs is still alive? I could have sworn hearing that he died in a Tijuana donkey show accident back in 2013.
No, that was the donkey.
Wait, Lou Dobbs wasn't the donkey?
Trump had his pal D.J. Pecker catch and kill this fake news. It's the least he could do for the Father of Trumpism.
Once I accidentally hacked my own wetware with a viral meme I was working on. I ended up having to sit through about 20 hours of Jordan Peterson videos just to find the upload center. Fortunately I was able to scrub it before it activated.
You really should read that EFF link. The CLOUD Act includes reciprocity that should be troubling for anybody who knows how authoritarian governments like China and Russia and Turkey operate.
As we wrote before, the CLOUD Act is a far-reaching, privacy-upending piece of legislation that will:
?Enable foreign police to collect and wiretap people's communications from U.S. companies, without obtaining a U.S. warrant.
?Allow foreign nations to demand personal data stored in the United States, without prior review by a judge.
?Allow the U.S. president to enter "executive agreements" that empower police in foreign nations that have weaker privacy laws than the United States to seize data in the United States while ignoring U.S. privacy laws.
?Allow foreign police to collect someone's data without notifying them about it.
?Empower U.S. police to grab any data, regardless if it's a U.S. person's or not, no matter where it is stored.
It's going to be interesting, from a living-through-a-train-wreck perspective, to see what happens when CLOUD meets GDPR.
The condoms thing was a trend in 2005 and was a joke back then, too. It's just the stupid old party trick as a teen joke.
Those of us who pay attention to such things have always known that data security must rely on encryption, not law.
-jcr
The 2020 Census will ask if people are in same-sex or opposite-sex relationships.
This is outrageous! The question should be "Are you in a same-gender relationship(s) or a non-same-gender relationship(s) or both or neither?"
How dare you assume that I would assume the gender of my partner?
Trade War: when governments compete over which one can wage greater war on its own citizens by disrupting their ability to engage in trade with foreign nations.
Americans would know since they have been targets of other nation's trade war with the USA for decades.
Are we somehow made better off when our government makes imported goods more expensive?
When talking long term, no. Short term, maybe.
Getting China and other countries to move toward more free trade with the USA by using tariffs might just work. It might not.
There is a reason that most countries want to sell their wares in the USA. Maybe China needs the US market enough to lessen their Commie trade barriers to US products.
When talking long term, no. Short term, maybe.
I see. So you are better off when the stuff you buy costs more. When you can buy less stuff with your paycheck, you are made richer. Scarcity is preferable over abundance.
Why not just toss some of your money into the trash and let other people buy what they want from whomever they want? The result would be the same, except that you wouldn't be forcing everyone else to be poorer.
As I said, I am not fine with long term government imposed costs of products being set artificially higher.
To push China into lowering their tariffs and trade restrictions with the USA, it might be worth it temporarily.
Letting the Chinese Communists dictate what Americans should pay is not working either.
We are not talking about free trade and then Trump suddenly fucking everything up by imposing tariffs. This is managed trade with trump trying to do something different and stand up for America by fighting back during a trade war.
Just because the media has not called years of Chinese Communists fucking with American exports a "trade war" does not mean that one was not taking place.
Just because the media has not called years of Chinese Communists fucking with American exports a "trade war" does not mean that one was not taking place.
And the solution is to punish Americans who buy Chinese goods.
Americans are already getting punished buying Chinese goods. Chinese prices are being set by the Commie central planners.
If you want to over pay for Chinese garbage be my guest. You now just have a higher cost on the products like when social security, Obamacare, excessive taxation, fees, regulation, etc run up the costs of products.
Maybe tariffs might convince China to lower their product prices or let free market dictate prices.
Americans are already getting punished buying Chinese goods. Chinese prices are being set by the Commie central planners.
Americans are getting punished because the Commies are selling them at prices that are too low? More like the Commies are punishing the Chinese, not us.
You think the prices the Chinese are selling stuff are too low?
Free market would signal that those prices are not low enough. The Chinese government controls those prices.
I don't buy much Chinese crap anymore because its low quality junk that I have to buy multiples of because the low quality causes me to have to need that item again. I buy more expensive items mostly, so they will last me years.
South Korean and Japanese stuff is better quality but more expensive. I made the choice.
You think the prices the Chinese are selling stuff are too low?
That seems to be the argument from the protectionists. They're dumping their cheap, subsidized goods on us hapless consumers who are getting punished with lower prices.
And I agree that much of the crap is crap. So I don't buy it. I don't need Uncle Sam slapping a tariff on it for me to make that choice. However what if others want to buy it? I lack the hubris to make that decision for them.
Except that Trump isn't doing this to cause China to lower tariffs. He's doing this to impose scarcity upon Americans, because scarcity is preferred by producers. It allows them to raise prices and skimp on quality.
The people who lose are the people who buy stuff. As in everyone.
Scarcity might be the result but that is doubtfully Trump intent. His intent is to help America in the long run by pushing back against China's managed trade policies with the USA.
China is never going to engage in free trade with the USA as they are at a disadvantage if that happens. The strategy is to get China to engage in less restricted trade with the USA via temporary tariffs.
Free trade is the best option but China is just not going to change its ways to engage in free trade.
Scarcity might be the result but that is doubtfully Trump intent.
It absolutely is both the result and intent of protectionists.
As Bastiat pointed out, producers and consumers are at odds with each other. Producers want scarcity because it allows them to jack up prices and skimp on quality. Consumers want abundance because it means more choices, better quality, and lower prices.
Protectionists only see the producers' side, because they are relatively few and organized. While consumers are diffuse and without a voice.
Protectionism only benefits producers at the expense of everyone else.
You would be correct if this was free market trading. Its not.
China sets prices and has actual trade barriers to American goods. In the USA free market mostly sets prices with costs of regulation tacked on.
Furthermore, you are confusing protectionism which tends to keep foreign products out of a country and excessive tariffs which make prices more expensive.
Trump is not trying to prevent Chinese products from being imported into the USA. He thinks tariffs can be used to renegotiate our managed trade system. He might be right. He also might be wrong.
Furthermore, you are confusing protectionism which tends to keep foreign products out of a country and excessive tariffs which make prices more expensive.
The point of making foreign products more expensive is to get people to buy less. To keep those goods out.
Is that the only point? No other points that you can come up with?
Why is Dom Perignon $160 a bottle? Some of that is taxes and other government costs. Most of that is because that is a great champagne and people will pay it.
Its high cost does not keep Dom from entering the USA. Americans still buy Dom.
I would probably not buy a champagne from China no matter what they charged. China would have to show that they can make good champagne before I gave them a cent.= for that kind of product. Chinese beers sucks, so I gave them less than $10 to sample some different water buffalo piss.
That's a pretty weak analogy. Some things cost a lot because they are high quality. Or because people want bragging rights. Making stuff more expensive with tariffs doesn't increase the value. Rather it encourages people to buy less.
The U.S. tariff increases would include a 15 percent hike on sparkling wine, fresh and dried fruits, and nuts.
A tariff on California, in other words. I'm not so sure those Chinese know how to apply pressure.
I heard a voice on the radio say they were targeted at Trump voters. You know, rural, blue collar, fly-over people.
Really surprising that media types know little about what they are talking about.
Surprising, I tell you.
Roseanne doesn't seem to be a closet anything, and appears to care less about those saying she isn't "a real conservative" or is a "far right" loon. She appears to be milking the contradictions, like she has for a long time. Of course, that offends ideological purists.
Reasonable people simply don't care to get whipped up in the crazed ideological litmus tests that seem to be cropping up everywhere there's an audience for anything, from family sitcoms to political rallies.
She retweets unhinged conspiracy theories, but that isn't the "problem" that big news media has with her. The problem they have with her is that they are the wrong conspiracy theories.
You might be right. She is getting attention for being what gets her attention.
Some lefties choose to act like conservatives and then use humor in a self-deprecating manner as if it fools anyone. Stephen Colbert did this and Bill Maher has always been a lefty hack.
Being a Hollywood lefty hack is so competitive that they look for false alternatives to set themselves apart.
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Is this elaborate readers digest some sort of plot to overcome our refusal to click the links?
"what sets [Lou] Dobbs apart is the degree to which the president views him as a political and populism godfather, the #MAGA Socrates to Trump's Plato,"
Why am I not surprised. The two dottering senile old fools deserve each other.
After two weeks or so of the Left go ballistic on Twitter and opinion pages about the hire, The Atlantic has put up Kevin D. Williamson's first caustic column today, on the political homelessness of libertarians in the era of Trump.
The Passing of the Libertarian Moment
Well, that was depressing.
I block ads, so I cannot read it.
Its the Atlantic, so I am sure something about how the Democratic Party is NOT fading into oblivion? Something about Trump not doing Libertarian-ish things to roll back government?
You know what? Don't worry about it.
Okay. Thanks for the heads up.
I guess I will take my Georgia driver's license, with a 30 year expiration date for veterans, somewhere else.
You can say that again, Citizen X
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