Judge Says Backpage Protected by First Amendment, Rejects Pimping Charges for CEO… Then Backtracks a Few Hours Later
"Congress has spoken on this matter and it is for Congress, not this court, to revisit." Except for maybe later this afternoon...

It looked like the courts would once again save us from prosecutorial overreach aimed at web classified-ad site Backpage—and in so doing, reaffirm the protection under federal law and the First Amendment that's afforded third-party publishers of online content. On Wednesday morning, Sacramento County Superior Court Judge Michael Bowman indicated that he would reject California's case against Backpage CEO Carl Ferrer and two former site owners on charges of pimping, pimping a minor, and conspiracy.
In a tentative ruling, Bowman agreed with the defense that the federal Communications Decency Act prohibits the charges aginst Ferrer and co-defendants Michael Lacey and James Larkin, who were all arrested in October. "Congress did not wish to hold liable online publishers for the action of publishing third party speech," he wrote. "Congress has spoken on this matter and it is for Congress, not this court, to revisit." The last sentence was bolded.
Although Bowman could not issue a final ruling until after oral arguments, which were scheduled for Wednesday afternoon, he said that the final ruling come as early as that evening. And it did: Bowman now wants more info. According to Cheryl Miller of California legal newspaper The Recorder, the judge has now said he won't dismiss the pimping charges just yet and would like more briefings from both sides before deciding whether to make the tenative ruling final.
The case against Ferrer and company was instigated by the California Department of Justice and led by state Attorney General Kamala Harris, who called Backpage "the world's top online brothel." Harris, a Democrat, just won a seat in the U.S. Senate. In October, former Backpage owners Lacey and Larkin accused her of bringing the charges against them as a pre-election publicity stunt.
"Make no mistake; Kamala Harris has won all that she was looking to win when she had us arrested," the men alleged in a statement. "She issued her sanctimonious public statement, controlled her media cycle and got her 'perp walk' on the evening news. … And if the polls are any indication, Harris will be warmly ensconced in the United States Senate by the time her blatant violations of the First Amendment and federal law are finally adjudicated. She won't pay. The taxpayers of California will."
As I noted here then, Harris knew the charges she was bringing against Ferrer, Lacey, and Larkin were not permitted under federal law. In 2013, she petitioned Congress to change the law specifically so that she and other state attorneys general could prosecute Backpage owners. Which means her presence now in Congress doesn't bode well for Section 230 of the Communication Decency Act (CDA), the part that protects web publishers and platforms from criminal liability for user-generated content.
For now, it looks uncertain whether Backpage—which has emerged victorious in several previous attempts by state prosecutors to go after it in unconstitutional ways—will be afforded the protections guaranteed under Section 230.
"The importance of the protection afforded by the First Amendment was the motivating factor behind the creation of CDA," Bowman noted in his tentative ruling earlier today. While government has a legitimate interest in fighting sex trafficking, that interest "is not absolute," wrote Bowman, "and must be constrained by the interests and protections of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution."
Bowman also pointed out in the tentative ruling that California criminal code defines pimping as living or deriving financial support from the earnings or proceeds of a person's prostitution, and "does not apply to an individual who provides a legitimate professional service to a prostitute even if paid with proceeds earned from prostitution." In this case, Backpage earns money for services rendered to sex workers—providing a platform and tools to easily post advertisements—not by taking a cut of any sex-work proceeds that result.
"There is no dispute that Backpage charged money for the placement of advertisements," Bowman wrote. "Does this qualify as services rendered for legal purposes? Given the services provided by the online publisher, the answer to that question is yes. Providing a forum for online publishing is a recognized legal purpose that is generally provided immunity under the CDA. This immunity has been extended by the courts to apply to functions traditionally associated with publishing decisions, such as accepting payment for services and editing."
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If it weren't for Backpage's personal ads, I wouldn't have met Riven. Then again, I'd still have that $15.
But the memories and the pungent oozing sores will last a lifetime.
So will the videos.
Sick burn!*
*Which is also what happens when I pee
You are truly the gift that keeps on giving. Much like my UTI.
You know my motto: service with a "smile."
You have the nicest smile I've ever come across.
Well, what can I say? I routinely whiten, if you nomsayin
I don't care if you came on Riven's face...ewwwww.
Service With a Smile.
(And yes, that is the original 1934 color.)
You need to be more discerning as to where you stick your holographic penis. Anti-virus can't fix everything.
It's not holographic, that's the scar from my bris.
Not yours! I was speaking of Riven's!
Oh, no. That scar is the tumor-baby I had removed
Nonetheless, I cherished it, loved it, and am raising it to become a useful and productive tumor.
Such blessed tumor. Many benigns. Wow
It's started talking. It asked for its mommy. Heartbreaking.
she petitioned Congress to change the law specifically so that her she and other state attorneys general could prosecute Backpage owners.
FTFY, Liz.
ty
Will Kamala Harris actually be worse than Barbara Boxer?
Humanity always raises the bar.
Sevo commented a few times that she became known by working on her back, and I dismissed it because Sevo is really old and stuff, and then I googled that and it turns out she dated Willie Brown when he was in his 60s and she was in her 20s. Do the Dems have a requirement that a woman needs to have had an influential schlong in her before they allow her to run for office?
Traditions are important. They bind the community together.
"This woman wants to run for office - she has dark skin and a law degree."
"Who'd she fuck?"
"Willie Brown."
"Impressive. She's in!"
The party must know your dedication to fucking the country by submitting to being fucked by a slimy party member first. At least she was in CA and not NY.
Maybe she and Patty Murray can have a threesome with Chuck Schumer.
I dismissed it because Sevo is really old and stuff
Sevo reminds me of my long-deceased grandfather who used to go on long rants about how the Nazis still secretly control the world from Argentina.
Is it safe?
According to him Israel exists because they need to round you all up in one place and then have the Arabs take you out so no one is the wiser.
(Bear in mind this guy spent five years under Nazi rule and got understandably paranoid about it)
I hate having to explain cultural references.
Oooooh, I thought you were talking about the Gandalf Frodo conversation.
OH MY GOD OPA WAS RIGHT.
"how the Nazis still secretly control the world from Argentina"
What a crock of shit. The Nazis control the world from tunnels under the Amazon. The Amazon is in Brazil, not Argentina.
Using telluric currents?
That actually reminds me of those terrible Sword of Truth books, in which, sorceresses we weaker than men magically, but they could skin a wizard alive than fuck a demon with a spiked phallus -- they had to really love it or the demon would know -- then blamo! They become more powerful than wizards.
Yeah, the dem candidates all make me think of that.
Huh. Sounds like it was written by the same guy who started that story off with the leper, who somehow had incurable leprosy in modern times, rapes some girl at random and then goes on to, well, I don't know, because I quit when all of the characters went, "hey, this random guy raped one of our young women, but no big deal."
Still a better love story than netorare.
Thomas Covenant the Unbeliever. Very strange books
That's about as far as I got too.
Anne it was just his fictional account of his personal experiences in the democrat party.
He ends up using his wedding ring to turn a monster into a baby.
It's how the progs consecrate the bond of obedience.
And they said the Democrats have no new talent. *barf*
She is likely to live longer - so yes, she is worse than Boxer.
OT
For me the biggest advantage of Trump is not what he'll do, but what he won't do. He faces fierce opposition from Team Blue, most of Team Red, most of the media, and half the country. I doubt very much he will build a wall, much less get Mexico to pay for it, or deport millions of people. He also won't pass new gun laws or silly environmental regulations.
He will probably get a decent judge on the Supreme Court, cut taxes, and might add a few tariffs. Otherwise, I predict more of the same- endless half-assed wars and debt.
The other advantage is that his election proves the SJWs are on the ropes. They might wise up, but it's more likely is that they will get even crazier as they slide into irrelevance.
"They might wise up, but it's more likely is that they will get even crazier as they slide into irrelevance."
Only half that sentence is true and I think you know which half.
THANK YOU
Yeah.
the choice now is 'grow up, or get crazier'
Being in the political opposition, they're going to get crazier. When they felt ascendant, they were happy to chide their opponents while they steamrolled over them. Now they're going to be screaming HATE CRIME at every possible opportunity. there are going to be a lot of people thinking they're martyrs when they're just being assholes. See: recent guy @ Rutgers. Would this guy still have a job if Clinton had won & he were a trumpkin?
Apparently the usual suspects on the left are now using the story of the above guy as proof of the New Trumpist Police State
no one seems the slightest bit troubled by the fact that this was the consensus only a few weeks ago
Looks like I graduated just in time.
Unfortunately my sister now has to slog through this nonsense.
And I ended up at Temple Law, where I've been inundated with 10x the SJW bullshit that I could ever imagine with the Scarlet Knights.
That news story does more than merely bury the lede by failing to mention that that guy is white himself.
I always assume anyone screeching on twitter about how awful white people are.... are white themselves. Its a cliche. Black people do it differently.
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, that a guy who creates a class about "politicizing Beyonce" has mental problems.
But he's got tats and stuff, so that makes him all intense and stuff.
Far out, man. Far out.
This is the only knowledge worth dropping.
His "knowledge" should not be merely dropped. It should be hurled away with great force.
wow, megadouche alert
"will the 2nd amendment be as cool when i buy a gun and start shooting atrandom white people or no...?"
Wait, what does this even mean? Uhh, the 2nd amendment would be TOTES cool if he started shooting at random white people.
A real silver lining is all the rioting by the left. If congressional republicans are smart, they will create a modern version of HUAC to go after progressive subversives. With all the vitriol right now, even the announcement of such a committee will make the whole thing a self fullfilling process.
Woth luck, we can make progressives afraid to be progressive.
And then the progs get elected and turn it on the rest of the country?
Why does this sound familiar.
Kamala Harris may be a more evil member of the Senate than Martha Coakley would have been.
She seems to have the unbridled ambition thing down pat; team blue loves that.
Yes, as long as you are willing to ruin people's lives for the flimsiest of reasons, you are sure to become a rising start in the world of politics.
"And trying to send 3 million illegal immigrants back home, I also consider racist," said local idiot.
WaPo
...we're just all ignoring the fact that Obama's deported right around 3 million illegal immigrants I take it?
Turning people away at the border is not deportation in my book.
Well, a border checkpoint is legally called a "port of entry" in that it's a place where someone can enter a country lawfully. (Example of border checkpoint being called "port of entry"). So if you're turned away from a "port," you are technically "de-ported" De, as a Latin preposition, meaning "away from" or "reversed".
And technically is the best kind of right.
"And technically is the best kind of right."
Except your example would be de-ported vs. deported. So not even technically right.
Funny though.
No one has used the orthography "de-ported" since they stopped using "China-man" as well.
So if you want to de-port China-men and Hindoos, be my guest. Just don't expect me to engage in such silliness.
Dammit. I had a chance throw in a "co-operate" in there as well.
Live and learn.
"No one has used the orthography"
Well ok then.
I'm glad you agree.
I do, it's easily to be benevolent when I'm technically right 😉
I don't want to string the joke along any further than I have to...but, you're only right if one ignores that Latin prepositions are used as proclitics when forming words in English.
"but, you're only right"
I'm glad you agree 😀
fu-uck this conversation.
The hyphen is used in cases where there may be confusion between the standard usage of a word and a non-standard definition, and using a hyphen can clarify the confusion.
This seems to be exactly the case here.
As to proclitics, that has nothing to do with using a hyphen here. It has nothing to do with this conversation at all.
Sorry if I ruined your joke.
And related:
On the Terrible De-Grammaticalization in Hujulukinat
Ahem. It's co?perate.
Co?perate or GTFO.
I'm not a metal fan.
Well, except for Babymetal.
Of course HM would know what fucking Babymetal is.
Amusing, but the current definition of "deport" is to expel someone from a country. In order to expel them, they have to be in the country.
If I knock on your door, and you refuse to let me in, you didn't kick me out of your house, because I was never living there to start with.
OH JESUS FUCKING CHRIST!
You brought this on yourself HM, live by the pedant, die by the pedant.
You would say that, Canada-man.
We prefer the term Canadese.
i hate it when grammer nazis and pendants re-sort to ad homonym attacks
Pedantry, you say? Any of you have your own H&R post asterisk?
No, I took antibiotics for that.
I earned mine on a Matt Welch post, I think about 2 to 3 years ago.
I'm honestly Thunderstruck by the way they are carrying on. This world must seriously be the Matrix. All those 'you have to accept the election' articles were real, right? Whiskey drinking doesn't help my deja vu sensor.
Well, we probably are, and if we're not, could someone explain quantum entanglement in a way that makes sense otherwise?
You just need to drink more of it.
University Of Michigan Students Protest Racism While Segregating Themselves
linky
"All roles highlighted in blue are open to white people!"
The left are pure parody at this point.
But Trump and Bannon are antisemites. Check.
Why the Press Is Right to Freak Out Over Trump Sneaking to a Steakhouse
by some moron
"This sparked a backlash from journalists, with 16 press associations sending an open letter to Trump imploring him to respect the tradition of allowing a press pool to cover the president's movements, which dates back to Franklin Delano Roosevelt."
Umm, Obama is the president still. Duh.
Oh, the press pool that never took notice of FDR being crippled. Riiiiiiigght.
Or JFK getting toked and screwing 18 year olds...
Eugene Robinson explaining why he's hoping for Trump to fail.
But he has not earned our trust or hope. Rather, he has earned the demonstrations that have erupted in cities across the country. He has earned relentless scrutiny by journalists, whom he shamelessly made into scapegoats during the campaign, and he has earned the constant vigilance of the public he now must serve.
Shamelessly scapegoating the press doing their utmost to get Hillary elected? You're aghast that Trump would have the audacity to fight back? The nerve of that bastard! How dare he not sit there and take our shitting all over him!
If a normal Republican had been elected, I could say the polite and socially acceptable thing, something like "I didn't support So-and-So, but he will be my president, too, and I wish him success."
Yes, I'm sure you would say that about a "normal" Republican, just not a Nazi like Trump. Or Romney, or McCain, or Bush, or Dole, or the other Bush, or Reagan, or Ford or Nixon. Maybe Eisenhower. Because that's the "polite and socially acceptable" thing to say, not because, you know, a normal human being might actually hope that the guy who just got elected President doesn't turn out to be a monster just so they can smugly say "Told ya so".
File under: sky blue, water wet
Germany: Arabic translator says Muslim migrants "want Germany to be Islamised. They despise our country and our values."
You know who else wanted Germany Islamised?
I bet he's a white racist German, whose family members served Hitler.
I bet it's a Papist conspiracy, abusing the trust of this poor black woman.
I keep getting accused of being a conspiracy nut for alleging that the left despises western civilization and is actively trying to destroy it.
What better way to do that than to import millions of people whose values are diametrically opposed to western values?
And of course, racism is the only possible explanation for these results. It couldn't possibly be that Asians and whites are more likely to read on their own or be pushed to do well in school by their parents.
Pay no attention to all those spelling bees and science fairs being won by home-schooled kids.
ThinkProgess. I can think of 2 things wrong with that name.
Culture doesn't have anything to do with it Derpy, it's just racism.
America is such a racist nation that Dave Chappelle and Chris Rock can become millionaires by telling jokes about how America is a racist nation.
its true. we're so lame.
I'm sure they would also agree that the justice system is majorly slanted against men.
And that the car insurance industry is a terrible injustice to young men.
And health insurance unfairly charges old people more money.
There's no way this will backfire:
White students at Pomona College have launched a new student group dedicated to "owning our racism" and "deconstructing our whiteness."
The agenda reads like a Maoist struggle session.
At least the Catholics offer forgiveness...
Whatever floats their boat man.
Well good luck with that because everyone knows Mexicans do all the construction work these days.
Reads like? It is.
Somebody was asking who the next generation of Democratic leadership was going to be?
Meet your future, people.
Not a single fucking Nazi, Isis commander, Jesus in flesh, or the president of that janky Chinese shit state will ever stop pussy being dollar-billed.
That pink delicious cock magnet women walk around with between their crucible pillars is worth more than oil. You FUCKING think social justice or fucking gods or shitty crackheads running western lame brain chain factories can stop us from placing bills on that deep purple asteroid you stupid governing shit nigglers?
Your goddamn society tanks and caped tremble jaws attached to morbidly educated oddities in gray faces on top of tits no one ever sucked or will ever suck....
behind the holocaust/pinoche/Liberia lovers were shot in head or had their goddamn hands chopped off before they were fucked or had cock and vaginal lips loved lipped from lovers on the brink of death...
Tragic mystics walk deep basements with not a single nuclear bomb on their trigger finger... but agile believes hell is when satan climbs out from the roots of volcanoes and turns humans into Horrigacious Gargs capable of acts not even the gods billions love espouse.
Proof that Tahoe Ted who ran TRB in Seattle was indeed innocent on all counts.
I'm just sorry he's not here to see this. Sheriff Urquart and Dan Satterberg will never be held accountable for the crime they committed against this good man.
I've been seeing lots of people use triple parenthesis the past few weeks. I wondered what it meant.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses
So are the folks here using it in reclaiming way to fight antisemitism, or are they using it to announce they are anti-Semites themselves?
Hard to tell.
And does Reason want to have this in it's forum?
Related: people are wearing safety pins to signal that they are safe people for those afraid of bigotry.
I would have thought the left was a little more sophisticated than that, but hey.