Housing Policy

Los Angeles Contemplates Rules to Harm AirBnb Hosts and Guests


Los Angeles is considering leaning on the short-term rental-finding service Airbnb to help the city find and punish people disobeying laws that generally provide little genuine public service but merely punish property owners and short-term tenants for trying to make a mutually beneficial deal.

The city's planning commission is currently considering rules that would demand AirBnb turn over information about the property owners using their service, to help the city enforce regulations against them.

joeltelling via Foter.com / CC BY-SA

AirBnb spokesperson Aliscon Schumer told the Los Angeles Times that the proposed rules would be "a step backward, putting consumer privacy at great risk by requiring online platforms to give the government unfettered access to confidential user data without any idea of how that information would be used." 

The main way it would be used, of course, would be to try to punish them for using their property in ways the city disapproves.

The Times sums up the main elements of the proposal:

People would be able to rent out only their primary residence, defined as the place they live at least six months out of the year. Hosts could rent out only that home, or a room within it, for up to 90 days annually.

They would be barred from offering apartments that fall under rent stabilization or affordable-housing covenants, and would have to pay the same kind of lodging taxes as hotels, which would go into a city fund for affordable housing…..

The proposal hinges on a registration system: Hosts would be given an official number that would have to be displayed in online listings. If they failed to do so, they could be fined —and so could the websites they use.

Hosts would be charged at least $200 daily for advertising a rental that lacked a registration number or otherwise broke the rules, while the websites would face fines of $500 a day.

Other violations could trigger stiffer fines: Hosts who rented out a room or home beyond the number of days allowed could be docked $2,000 per day. The websites, in turn, could be penalized $1,000 per day for refusing to turn over addresses of rentals that failed to register with the city…..

the city planning commission will take up the proposal in June. If approved, the law would then have to be vetted by the City Council.

The usual series of public hearing packed with angry "interested parties" proceeded the attempted rulemaking. Right now, such rentals are straight up illegal in much of L.A., the city insists, but those laws are also hard to enforce.

Anti-AirBnb activists insist they aren't out to harm the occasional person trying to make ends meet by turning a spare room into something useful, but are fighting the sinister shadow of landlords with lots of properties who have chosen, rather than renting them long-term, to turn them into effective "de facto hotels" that are alleged to harm the quality of life of neighbors and the city's overall rental availability and prices.

Yale Law Professor Gideon Yaffe, who lives in L.A. and uses AirBnb as both host and guest, laid out the reasons most citizens should be wary of this regulatory attempt in an L.A. Times op-ed

Yaffe makes it clear the proposed ordinance would really just be destroying thousands of small businesses in L.A.—those in the business of renting out short-term lodging.

AirBnb is good not just for the host and guest (though that should be a sufficient reason to allow people to use their property in the ways they wish minus direct and real harm to some one else's person or property):

Airbnb rentals don't just benefit the visitors who use them and the hosts who make money from them. They also bring free-spending tourist traffic into neighborhoods lacking hotels, in parts of the city visitors usually miss. Airbnb enables residents of neighborhoods such as the Hollywood Hills, Echo Park and Silverlake to house guests within walking distance of their homes.

It might be that AirBnb's ability for landlords to make use of property in ways other than standard long-term rentals could contribute to the city's very expensive rents and relatively small available stock, though Yaffe says that the extent to which it does play a role isn't yet known. (This is despite one article in a Harvard student publication using information from a political enemy of Airbnb that has not yet been subject to normal scientific scrutiny which suggests it contributes to up to 3 percent rental price increases.)

In many cases, Yaffe suggests, AirBnb rents out spaces, like guesthouses with no kitchen or laundry available, that would be unlikely to be normal rentals in any case.

Yaffe also points out:

restricting Airbnb rentals could have the perverse effect of punishing victims of the rental crisis. Many Airbnb hosts are renters who manage to pay their inflated rents on time thanks to income generated by subletting part of their space through Airbnb. The proposed ordinance, which would permit only owners, not renters, to host through Airbnb, could force many people currently renting apartments in the city to relocate.

Yaffe is not completely opposed to the idea that AirBnb might require more rules, but thinks the city doesn't know enough yet to do so intelligently. 

Reason on AirBnb.

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  1. The evils of cronyism never end.

  2. My town already shit on AirBnB.

    1. Look, the peasants must be protected from trying to do business like things to make a few extra bucks because they might hurt themselves. We have to protect the peasants.

      1. I think that’s the justification here. No peasants. Some of the AirBnBs near the beach go for 5 grand a night.

        1. Peasants == those without the right political connections

          1. or right army of lobbyists

      2. Speaking of peasants, it was the rise of highly-skilled craftsmen and merchants/traders in the late Middle Ages that gave rise to a new class of people — the bourgeoisie — in addition to the nobility, the clergy, and serfs.

        Imagine if the ruling classes back then decided to put a stop to the threat of an emerging middle class. That’s exactly what’s happening now as the powers that be try to stamp out sharing economy services like Uber and Airbnb.

        It’s disgusting to think that our society was actually more advance and open-minded — in some ways — way back in the 12th or 13th-century than it is today.

  3. I don’t understand why companies that are 99.99999% internet-based (Uber, AirBnB, etc) don’t just re-domicile outside of the county.

    There’s no reason why an app that connects people people who want something to people who have something to sell needs to be in the same geographical location.

  4. Los Angeles….is that still a thing? I thought the progs fucked that place to death a decade ago before they all packed up and left for Colorado and Texas where they are busy trying to fuck those places to death.

    I didn’t know people actually went to Los Angeles anymore, I thought they just left it.

    Yeah, yeah, I know. Get off my fucking lawn.

    1. All LA really needs is a high speed train to nowhere.

    2. I’m sure LA, like NYC, just comprises people who ignore the plethora of authoritarian laws.

      1. Your handle makes my head hurt. Explain yourself

        1. I’m a millennial

          1. Sorry. #millennial

        2. You know why I comment on H&R? ‘Cuz it’s pussy on a stick.

    3. Yeah. Stay away from this god-forsaken hellhole.

      Just to be fair, I picked a picture that’s facing away from the beach.

      1. My father lives in a place that looks very much like that. His neighbor reported him to the HOA for not washing his truck often enough.

        Everyone has their idea of what hell is.

        I live in heaven. I can walk out on my deck drunk and stark naked to piss over the side and no one will call the cops or the HOA. I also shoot guns off of that deck on a regular basis. Gunfire is heard every single day for my neighbors. If I am not shooting, one of them are.

        1. Fine. Here’s a view downhill.

          No HOA. Except for where I live. My view sucks. I’ll be out of here in a year or 2.

          1. Sorry, I do not see a naked man shooting from a porch while urinating. FAIL.

          2. Needs straw coolie hat-wearing old Black women sitting on 5 gallon buckets cane pole fishing those ponds. Plant some cotton and tobacco in that hayfield too. Or at least put some classy livestock on it.

        2. I live next to 1000 acres of state forest, and on the top of the hill where my driveway is 1000 feet downhill (the length of the driveway, not the elevation drop). I can’t piss off the deck drunk, though, unless I want to risk Dad seeing it.

          Unfortunately, we had dirt bikers on one of the trails this weekend. 🙁

          1. Ted S: Gather ’round.

            How old are you, son?

        3. I live in heaven. I can walk out on my deck drunk and stark naked to piss over the side and no one will call the cops or the HOA. I also shoot guns off of that deck on a regular basis.

          I like the cut of your jib.

          Not sure about the whole south thing…but you’re alright!

          1. *Fd’A zips up and comes in off the deck*

            1. Nobody cares about your frozen dick.

      2. Doesn’t everybody try to stay as far away from you as possible? :-p

        1. If you stay away from me, you’re not going to have a good time.

      3. Looks CGI.

    4. Texans really don’t like Californians trying to make the place LA 2.0.

      1. Amen!

        Although, I’ll happily let a transplant Californian pay an astronomical sum for my house when I move away in 8 months.

        /+$100k in equity in a year

  5. I wonder how often AirBnB is used to sell sex on the DL. I mean, you post your “spare room” with an unusual markup, but your pics feature the busty “hostess”, and people draw their own conclusions. Worst case scenario, you sell sex legitimately. Best case, your clueless short-term tenant has no idea how to broach the subject.

    1. Well, if someone rents a property you own and sex happens, then obviously you’re a human trafficker. I mean these things never happen at hotels because rules and regulations are in place, blurbel blurbel derp, we have to protect the children.

        1. Progressives:

          Get out of our bedrooms!

          Get into our bathrooms!

          1. With the whole “affirmative consent” shit, they’re just as happy to get into our bedrooms. Or anywhere else you go for a quickie.

            1. Get into our bedrooms and bathrooms! As long as you’re democrats…

    2. “Broach the subject”

      All aboard the euphemism ship!

      1. Coffee is for closers only Sex is for broachers only.

      2. The euphemism boat,
        Soon will be making another run;
        The euphemism boat,
        Promises something for everyone….

    3. Sex-trafficking tool! There’s a good excuse to shut it down. Surprised it hasn’t been used yet (afaik)

    4. I stuffed a sock down my pants, and nobody rented my place.

    5. Just because you use AirBnB to lure people to your rape dungeon doesn’t mean everybody else does!

  6. Trailer, for sale or rent……..

    1. How much is a room for rent?

    2. Also what can I get for two hours of pushing brooms?

  7. I just heard on the radio that the suspicious package whose discovery caused the cancellation of a big game in England today turned out to have been planted & forgotten by police in an exercise on detection of suspicious packages.

    1. It just occurred to me that its having been forgotten probably means they failed to detect it during the exercise. Because if they’d succeeded, would they not have taken it away? So they failed, and then their boss failed to clean up. Either that, or they were so fucked up they hid it successfully from themselves, i.e. forgot where they left it, & were too embarrassed to announce they’d lost a package, please return it if you find it.

      1. I recall reading that there were more casualties from civil defense drills & precautions against the air blitz of England during World War 2 than there were from the air blitz itself.

        1. I hear you. England sucks.

        2. Keep calm and evacuate the stadium.

          1. Saw on t-shirt:

            Keep Calm
            Or Panic and Run Away
            I don’t care.

            1. At least there wasn’t a stampede like there was in Hillsborough.

              1. That wasn’t really the case, though, was it?

                Guess it’s a matter of semantics

        3. I recall reading that there were more casualties from civil defense drills & precautions against the air blitz of England during World War 2 than there were from the air blitz itself.

          Specifically, i believe the main culprit blamed was “the blackouts”. Lots of people were killed in auto-crackups driving into things/places they’d expected to be lit up, lots of other kinds of accidents/lootings/robberies/etc. I don’t think there were ever rigorous statistics collected though, and its sort of an apocryphal ‘fact’ that was much-repeated, esp by people outside london who were never exposed to much bombing, but had to deal with the problems associated w/ blackouts.

          1. Did anyone else read Fireweed growing up?

            1. not I.

              Bill is a 15-year-old runaway evacuee, and he’s finding that surviving on the streets of London is pretty easy. He’s fed by a local cafe owner, he earns some cash as a barrow-boy in Covent Garden, and sleeping in the Underground air-raid shelters is cosy – if a bit smelly. Things get more complicated with the arrival of Julie. She’s a runaway too and, although she’s a bit posh, she’s just as determined as Bill to stay free of interfering parents and the ‘social’. For a while they have fun ducking Jerry missiles and camping in bombed-out houses, but soon the reality of the Blitz sets in. Playing grown-ups can be a very dangerous game. FIREWEED evokes a time of tin Spitfires, powdered eggs, woollen mittens and reading by firelight. This classic is full of adventure, heroism and British wartime courage. Ages 12+


              The first half of “Empire of the Sun” is mostly an amusing kids-perspective on war that isn’t nearly as dreary and horrible as one might expect (then he goes to prison camps and it becomes just as dreary and horrible as you might expect)

              Another similar, very-good book is “The Swell Season” by Joseph Skorvecky where he recounts stories of being a Czech teenager and trying to get laid (and play jazz) during the Nazi occupation of Prague. The Nazis are mostly an afterthought. “There”, but not as important as girls.

              1. Somehow I’m happier you weren’t around when I was younger. You make WW2 sound all dreary.

                1. . You make WW2 sound all dreary.

                  Au contraire. from what i’ve seen, it was mostly a joyful homoerotic romp

                  1. I have never seen sailors more ready to shovel coal than this bunch of fruits.

          2. Are you telling me that WW2 bombings weren’t a fun as Grave of the Fireflies led me to believe?

      2. Gotta love how competent the police are!

  8. Yaffe is not completely opposed to the idea that AirBnb might require more rules, but thinks the city doesn’t know enough yet to do so intelligently.

    But if the city waits until they know enough to act intelligently, they might be accused of intending the bad consequences that follow. By acting quickly, all the bad consequences will be “unforeseen and unforeseeable”.

  9. *Sits down next to Neo at the computer and flips on H&R*

    You get used to it. I don’t even see the code. All I see is market capture, surveillance, FYTW…

  10. Dang, I wouldn’t think this sort of law mandating help catching petty civil disobedience would even be necessary – don’t these illegal renters have neighbors that’ll rat ’em out in a heartbeat just for the sheer joy of it? Is LA that laid back that people will mind their own damn business occasionally?

  11. What’s that? You say you *want* here a leftwing airhead spout nonsense? OK, here you go:


    1. To the guy talking to GMac: Just shave your head already.

    2. I hear a lot of ‘fair’ and ‘deserves’ in that. The guy isnt stupid, he is just a spoiled shit that thinks fair is a real thing. Slap the smug off of his face and scream “There is no such thing as fair” in his ear.

      1. Slap the smug off of his face and scream “There is no such thing as fair” in his ear.

        “Emulate, motherfucker, emulate!”

      2. Gavin isn’t the best at this sort of thing.

        he doesn’t understand how to drill down to the guy’s misconceptions and force him to think through his own presumptions. You do that by asking the idiot questions until they realize what they’re saying makes no sense.

        The idiot just said he doesn’t think landlords should ‘profit’ off residents in their buildings.

        The question would then be = ok: how does the landlord pay off the loan he took to buy the property?
        – idiot says, “well there shouldn’t be loans profiting off of _______”
        the question then is, “Then who pays to build the building”?
        – idiot says “…i guess the state should loan money to build”
        the question then is, “but how do you know where to build and how much?”
        …. and on and on.

        These people never respond to argument. You have to make them realize there’s no mechanism anywhere in their “Feels” that enables things like credit, investment, development etc. They don’t realize everything in their life only exists because of leverage and credit and other people taking “risk”.

        1. the question then is, “but how do you know where to build and how much?”

          Computers, duh.

          1. (sigh)

            Who designs the computers for the govt Planners?

            1. Computers, duh.

    3. “You say you *want* here a leftwing airhead spout nonsense?”

      Man, that Pig-Latin I study 50 hours a week is messing up my English.

  12. Prog-on-prog action at Harvard – the administration will penalize students who belong to single-sex organizations, and the coeds say this is unfair to the women.

  13. You know who else wanted to make sure people weren’t hiding in unused rooms?

    1. Railway cops looking for hoboes?

  14. New book says Lincoln totally wasn’t gay

    Has the Rail-Splitter never heard of the Streisand Effect?

    1. The man’s tophat profile is phallic in the extreme. Either he was compensating for something with the ladies, or trying advertise it.

    2. And?

      Why does it matter if Lincoln was gay? Was Bull Run decided by Lincoln’s poor choice of cloth swatches for the Union Army?

  15. He *would* say that, wouldn’t he:

    “”It is not an overstatement to say that rocks helped determine the outcome of the Civil War,” said Scott Hippensteel, an associate professor in the Department of Geography and Earth Sciences at the University of North Carolina at Charlotte. “Geology determines terrain, and terrain can be exploited by a skilled commander on both offense and defense.”

    “Hippensteel’s study, “Carbonate rocks and American Civil War infantry tactics,” provides specific examples of geology’s role throughout the war.”

    1. That was surprisingly well written for a daily newspaper science story.

    2. You don’t need a skilled commander if you have twice as many men, better rifles and a stronger industrial base.

  16. Ethanol is both fat and water-soluble, hence its importance in cooking. I didn’t know any of this; I just figured wine was corrosive and good for scraping the burnt goodies from the bottom of a pan.

    1. A few years back my sister got me a couple of books for Christmas – What Einstein Told His Cook I and II, sort of like Alton Brown without the annoyance of Alton Brown, a lot of stuff on the science of cooking. I’m a decent cook but I can’t bake for shit, she won some sort of Betty Crocker award in school because she’s a good baker, so the books helped me understand what’s going on with the different types of food ingredients and how they interact. There’s a bit on gravies which gets into the emulsifiers (allows fat and water to mix) and how they work. Also the difference between the different leavening agents, stuff like that. It’s some useful knowledge if you mess around in the kitchen and want to do a little more than just “well, I’m out of eggs, I wonder what I could substitute – cheese is like eggs that come from a cow, right?”

      1. “Eggs are basically cheese that comes from chickens.”


        In other news, Islamonazis butthurt about being exposed as Islamonazis:


        1. They make a pretty good case, though. If MEMRI wasn’t translating their shit I would have no idea how radical their shit is.

            1. Generally, when a translation is mistaken, someone will notice and offer a correction. I have not seen a single MEMRI critic do that. It’s always something like “you can’t trust MEMRI because it’s run by the Israelis and they just want to make Arabs look bad” or some such. MEMRI has some real gems:


              1. they just want to make Arabs look bad

                “Uh, yeah? obviously. And you dumb Arab cunts seem to be doing all the hard work of actually *being* horrible cunts. All they have to do is *@#&$*( translate it. Its like you’re doing 95% of the ‘Looking Bad’ all on your own.”

      2. sort of like Alton Brown without the annoyance of Alton Brown


  17. An update on a story I linked earlier:

    “The Jewish doctor who authored a New York Times article about the medical benefits or disadvantages of circumcision is distancing himself from the accompanying illustration.

    “The illustration, which depicts a pencil being inserted into a sharpener from which a flower is emerging, has provoked a stunned and offended reaction in the Jewish community.”

    1. I can’t figure out the Joos. The first question I have about them is why is it that every Saturday, they insist on walking down the center of the street, actually at least 10 or so of them all the way across the street as to block then entire street for traffic, even though there are perfectly good sidewalks on both sides of the street, on which no one is walking.

        1. Wait, I just realized I set up the punch line, “yes, Hasidim with my own eyes.”

          1. Hasidim? Damn nearly hakilldim!

        2. Hasidic Jews, yes, all black, all year, long sleeves no matter how hot it is. Still, why the fuck are they walking down the middle of the street like retards? It’s exceptionally dangerous for one thing the way people drive around here. The only other place I have ever seen that is inner city ghettos in which you never want to find yourself.

          1. This sounds like New York City, but don’t feel obliged to disclose.

            1. Baltimore.

                1. When you talk about families that have an average of five or six children, and as many as 10 or 12, that can lead to dramatic demographic change

                  Oh gee, I wonder if that’s a part of their cult. I mean most people in their 30s have 20 kids these days, right? I guess that’s part of why they take up the entire street on their strolls, being as they’re pushing their school bus size strollers.

                2. Um, yeah, that’s them.

                  1. Don’t get me wrong, this is one of the best and safest neighborhoods in Baltimore. But why do my neighbors have to be the Coneheads?

        3. Of course he has seed ’em. Otherwise he wouldn’t be bringing it up as a topic of conversation. Duh.

          1. Whew – beat you to it!

            1. My fat fingers has the slowness, I has a need for the disabiliteez.

          2. They seem to be exceptionally rude, but maybe that’s just because I don’t understand them. Really, I don’t, at all. For one thing, they don’t seem to want to talk to you or even acknowledge your presence.

            1. Might be a language barrier, may be a (begging your pardon) ritual purity thing. I’m not sure.

              1. They speak English. I mean they might choose to speak Hebrew or Russian at times (If I’m not mistaken, the majority of them are Russian around here). A lot of the women are fucking hot, I mean wow, and they dress very feminine, tight dresses and heels, long sleeves always of course, gotta hide those arms, but show me those legs and ass baby. I know God is unhappy with me now. I know they speak English because I hear them talking, mostly as I said, among themselves. I shop at the same places they do, so it’s hard to not know this and at the same time to know nothing about them. My wife thinks they are very rude. I’m just not sure, but at times it seems to have to be that or they are just living in another universe.

                1. I see the problem…whever you approach they whisper, “here comes that creepy leg-ogling pervert, let’s pretend he’s not there.”


                  1. I sometimes think about cat calling them when they’re walking in the middle of the fucking street, but my wife might disapprove.

                    But it’s a lot more than that. I remember mentioning this one time before here when HM was around and we discussed briefly. An Indian friend of mine who lives near here asked me why they would cross the street anytime he was walking down the sidewalk and would approach any of them. I didn’t have an answer for him. That has never happened to me, yet. Maybe they don’t like his brownness or think he’s a Muslim? These people who I have lived among as neighbors for 3 years now are still a complete mystery to me. Like I said, they seem to have no intentions of engaging in conversation. My wife, who is the social butterfly is more sensitive to that and is definitely feeling offended by it.

                    1. Maybe they have an outreach person or something you could talk to, that rabbi in the article, for instance?

                      I don’t know, but according to my limited understanding many of the Orthodox Jews are reacting *against* the more relaxed practices traditionally associated with American Judaism – not keeping Kosher, not being too literal about the Bible and Talmud, and – most ominously – intermarrying with Gentiles.

                      If I absolutely had to guess, I’d speculate that they think the liberal Jews endanger the Jewish community by intermarrying and generally being secular. So the action has an opposite reaction.

                      Good luck.

                    2. (that is, they could be consciously limiting their association with Gentiles and secular Jews)

                    3. (that is, they could be consciously limiting their association with Gentiles and secular Jews)

                      I think that has to be at least part of it.

                    4. I had one friend here who actually does know them, has all his life, but he still did not answer many of my questions. One thing he told me is that they maintain a cult like control over their tribe and if anyone falls out of favor they will be effectively exiled. Which will be very difficult for them since they have depended on the community all their life for everything. It sounds really creepy to me. But not willing to take one persons word, I would like to learn more. Thanks for the suggestion. I just want to know what the proper way is to tell them, get the fuck out of the road, I’m driving here! (:

                    5. If the rabbi chatted with the Baltimore Sun, maybe he’ll chat with you. (Don’t mention the catcalling thing)

                      I learned about a New York case where an Orthodox Jew and his Orthodox lawyer were threatened with excommunication for taking a dispute with another Orthodox into the secular courts – because they should have used a Jewish court (and Jewish courts are a thing, especially in NY but also I think in MD) – they complained to the court about the social ostracism they’d suffer in the event of being excommunicated and asked the court to stop it, but the court didn’t do anything because of church and state. (which was of course the right outcome – I’d say we need *more* communities resolving matters in their own courts so long as they don’t enforce their demands with physical threats)

                    6. Not that this is unique to Judaism, tightly-king religious communities often have mechanisms for shunning dissenters.

                      The Quakers in the late 18th century had a rule that any slaveowners would be tossed out on their ass. And anyone who married a non-Quaker. and so on.

                    7. tightly- *knit* religious communities

                    8. Thanks for all your responses to this. It is something that is very troubling for us. I think it came to a head about a month ago when we were in a local market and 2 of these men in black were blocking the aisle we were shopping in, which had a very wide aisle, except for that they were talking and had aligned their carts to block off the entire aisle. We were heading that way and as normal asked them ‘excuse me’. We were completely ignored. My wife asked them again, smiling as always, ‘hi, excuse me’. Completely ignored. I’m sure they heard us, of course. My wife got pissed and just rammed her through them, lol. They didn’t even acknowledge this, at all. It’s like we didn’t exist. This is sad, I mean really sad. I have never seen anyone act like this. But, I’m not judging them or anything, but I think it’s time I figured it out.

                    9. That sounds really rude – (also I’m going to guess they’d prefer to listen to a man rather than get rebuked by a woman).

                      It may be that they’re looking forward to having a really insular neighborhood, with outsiders being marginal. I know that in Israel, the secular Jews sometimes have the same kinds of complaints about the Orthodox (though the situation is worse due to draft exemptions and proselytization). I once read a book about the tensions, where there were some really unpleasant cartoons in the secular Jewish papers about the Orthodox (haredim) – I mean, cartoons you wouldn’t expect Jewish people to do about other Jewish people. But I’m not sure if we’re talking about the same Orthodox group here.

                      But, just spitballing, maybe the rabbi does some kind of “meet the neighbors” thing – I don’t know if he’d be the sort to go to interreligious events or organizations, but sometimes communities have interreligious charities where people of different faiths meet each other while doing good deeds.

                    10. From an article in Haaretz about the murder of a Hasidic landlord:

                      “According to Samuel Katz, who was brought up as a Satmar but later became secular, boys in the community are taught that non-Jews aren’t quite human. Speaking from Berlin, where he is doing biomedical research on a Fulbright fellowship, Katz explained that growing up in such a community, “you don’t see commonality with people who aren’t Jewish. There is a completely different taxonomy of people. There are Jews and then there are non-Jews, who don’t have souls.”

                      So, don’t talk personal offense, it is just that you have no soul and are not exactly human.

                    11. From an article in Haaretz about the murder of a Hasidic landlord:

                      “According to Samuel Katz, who was brought up as a Satmar but later became secular, boys in the community are taught that non-Jews aren’t quite human. Speaking from Berlin, where he is doing biomedical research on a Fulbright fellowship, Katz explained that growing up in such a community, “you don’t see commonality with people who aren’t Jewish. There is a completely different taxonomy of people. There are Jews and then there are non-Jews, who don’t have souls.”

                      So, don’t talk personal offense, it is just that you have no soul and are not exactly human.

                    12. Bear in mind that things are kind of extra tense in Israel.

                      Here is the Chabad of downtown Baltimore. You’ll notice that it’s aimed at Jewish readers – but it’s possible they’d talk to you like they did to the *Sun.*

                      (suggestion only – no guarantees)

                    13. “I wouldn’t believe this if I didn’t see it with my own eyes. When I first moved to Williamsburg, it was known more for crackheads than hipsters and I could see the most disgusting whores I’d ever seen from my office window. They didn’t even try. They’d have on one Ugg boot and a slipper and a sideways baseball hat that had puke on it and they’d write odes to state-confiscated children in our hallway that said, “Mami misses you my angels. Come home soon.”

                      Usually, the only people desperate enough to do business with these Ladies of the Day were truckers finishing a 40-hour drive and Hasidic Jews. The latter group would pull up in a minivan and the junkie hobgoblin would topple in to perform blowjobs half a block away. Ew.

                      I asked an Orthodox Jewess what this was all about and she said some of them don’t see goyim as human so it was about as sinful as using a blow-up doll. I still don’t get how that doesn’t constitute touching. Maybe if women wore condoms on their hands, they could do more business in the Hasidic community?”


        4. My first thought was “female”.

          1. Again speculating, but if they’re traditional-minded Orthodox, then they might discourage the women from talking to outsiders – dealing with outsiders is kind of a male role.

      1. Chinese in a previous life?

  18. Vanilla Ice update: He has a lot of tattoos, stemming from his drug-addled days in the mid-1990s: “”A lot of my friends are tattoo artists,” he explains. “That was in my binge days. I didn’t even realize how many I was getting, then I got out of those days and I was like, ‘Sh!t.'””

    1. Drugs are bad, mmkay?

    2. And yes, wise guys, he pronounces the word “Sh!t” with an exclamation point.

      1. That’s how librarians shush people. SH!tsk.

        1. SHUT UP! This is a libary!

  19. Who should I vote for in the California Republican Primary?

    1. That’s a thing?

    2. Nyarlathotep. Cthulhu is lame.

      1. I kind of feel like I should make a Frisky Dingo reference here. So Scin TC! I guess.

        1. Scion TC I mean.

    3. Write in F.A Hayek. Austrians are popular in California, I hear.

      1. “Your easy-money policy has just been terminated.”

        1. “The economy’s not a car. There’s no engine to stall. No experts can fix it. There’s no “it” at all. The economy is us. Put away your wrenches, the economy is organic.”

          1. And “The Market” is not a ‘thing’; it is the result of millions of people making their best choices from the available options.

            1. There is no it at all.

            1. People aren’t chess men you move on a board at your whim, their dreams and desires ignored. With political incentives, discretion’s a joke. Those dials are twisting ? just mirrors and smoke. We need stable rules and real market prices so prosperity emerges and cuts short the crisis. Give us a chance so we can discover the most valuable ways to serve one another.

              How is this not a religious crusade?

              1. To rephrase, how is this not already a major religious principle?

                1. Pretty sure there was an episode of South Park comparing the all knowing Economy to Christianity.

    4. Ron Paul. Same as the last 2 times.

  20. This is what you call ‘hard-hitting honesty’ by Americas unbiased and objective news-reporters =

    Some Democrats Starting to Suspect Hillary Clinton *May Not* Be The Most Perfect and Ideal and Flawless Candidate Most Naturally Assume

    “You think? Really? What gave it away?… I mean, don’t you think you might be jumping the gun here? Don’t get all negative Nancy on us now. I mean, just ugh, look at that Trump person!? I mean that’s just crazy. Who doesn’t like Hillary? EVERYONE likes Hillary! I hardly see ANYTHING bad about her in the news!?”

    I find it a little hilarious. Suddenly everyone’s getting all ‘Mature and Realistic’ now that the primaries are mostly done. But everything they suddenly ‘acknowledge’ has been true since… forever.

    More than a dozen Clinton allies identified weaknesses in her candidacy that may erode her prospects to defeat Donald Trump, including poor showings with young women, untrustworthiness, unlikability and a lackluster style on the stump. Supporters also worry that she is a conventional candidate in an unconventional election in which voters clearly favor renegades.

    ..with a sigh, they acknowledge the persistent opinion among a lot of Americans that they just don’t like her.

    1. “…they acknowledge the persistent opinion among a lot of Americans that they just don’t like her.”

      For pete’s sake, her DOG doesn’t like her!
      Here, read how she deals with folks in general:

      Her actual words:
      1) “Where is the God damn flag? I want the God damn fucking flag up every morning at fucking sunrise”. Hillary to staff at the Arkansas Governor’s mansion on Labor Day 1991.
      From the book “Inside the White House” by Ronald Kessler, p. 244.

      (2) “Fuck off! It’s enough I have to see you shit-kickers every day! I’m not going to talk to you, too! Just do your Goddamn job and keep your mouth shut.” Hillary to her
      State Trooper bodyguards after one of them greeted her with “Good Morning.”
      From the book “America Evita” by Christopher Anderson, p.90.

      (3) “If you want to remain on this detail, get your fucking ass over here and grab those bags!”
      Hillary to a Secret Service Agent who was reluctant to carry her luggage because he wanted to keep his hands free in case of an incident.
      From the book “The First Partner” p. 25.

      (4) “Stay the fuck back, stay the fuck back away from me! Don’t come within ten yards of me, or else! Just fucking do as I say, Okay!!?” Hillary screaming at her Secret Service detail.
      From the book “Unlimited Access” by Clinton ‘s FBI Agent-in-Charge, Gary Aldridge, p.139.

      Too much? OK

      1. Naah, not enough:

        (5) “Where’s the miserable cock sucker?” (otherwise known as “Bill Clinton”)
        Hillary shouting at a Secret Service officer.
        From the book “The Truth about Hillary” by Edward Klein, p. 5.

        (6) “You fucking idiot” Hillary to a State Trooper who was driving her to an event.
        From the book “Crossfire” p. 84.

        (7) “Put this on the ground! I left my sunglasses in the limo. I need those fucking sunglasses! We need to go back! Hillary to Marine One helicopter pilot to turn back while in route to Air Force One.
        From the book ” Dereliction of Duty” p. 71-72.

        (8) “Come on Bill, put your dick up! You can’t fuck her here!!” Hillary to Gov. Bill Clinton when she spots him talking with an attractive female.
        From the book “Inside the White House” by Ronald Kessler, p. 243.

        1. Ms. Postrel is not amused…

        2. I don’t think a single passage from a single book has ever been necessary for millions upon millions of Americans to intimately-appreciate exactly who she is.

          ‘Character’ is obvious to most people on a subliminal level. It comes through the look in people’s eyes and the sincerity (or lack thereof) in their emotional expressions.

          The reason most people dislike Hillary isn’t because they “know things” about her. They just take one look and they ‘get it’. She’s a sociopathic fraud.

          1. “I don’t think a single passage from a single book has ever been necessary for millions upon millions of Americans to intimately-appreciate exactly who she is.”

            Agreed, but *any* of these simply confirms the impression.

    2. I got tricked into reading a Salon article for the case for Bernie the other day. But it was carefully crouched that Hillary Clinton was some wizened wizard with tons of accomplishments.. I just wanted to scream, WTF has Hillary accomplished?

      The Salon commentariat beat me to it.

      She spent a few years as a senator of no particular note, and then she became secretary of state. Her tenure as secretary of state kind of made me kiss the good old days of Kissinger. She was responsible the Russian reset, along with the total not wars in Libya and Syria.

      You can tell they’re not wars because congress didn’t authorize them, so we’re not blowing shit up in Syria and Libya.

      1. err I miss the old days of Kissinger is what I meant. I missed Kissinger I didn’t want to kiss him.. Damned auto correct.

  21. Pretty sure that SF’s gripe about the ‘sharing economy’ services amounts to the presumption that money is changing hands without the normal government skim, and the fact that the SEIU doesn’t clean the rooms for Air BnB.

    1. Hey, saw that you apologized for the misunderstanding. Thanks, I appreciate it.

      1. Note to self:
        Ya know, you ought to read the damn link before you blow off.
        You deserved the apology, not the blow-off.

    2. Rich people don’t like tourists schlepping luggage through their condo halls every weekend.
      Middle class people want to blame someone for the high cost of rent.
      Poor people don’t have rooms to rent out.

  22. Progs in panic mode about Hillary’s elect-ability:


    I knew that guy when I did stand-up in Chicago.

    1. His entire argument seems based on his extremely superficial impressions of the electorate, and the naive belief that policy-positions are what motivate other people to vote.

      Is he funny? (checks youtube)


      Of the two, i think ‘comedian’ has more of a future (*or rather, he has more room to grow); his day-job as a political writer? won’t last through the end of the month.

  23. OT (where’d everyone go? It’s not like it’s a holiday)
    SF teachers might *HAVE TO COMMUTE*; statists pee their pants, hope to ass free shit to the list!:

    “Teachers priced out –
    SF educators struggle to stay amid costly housing, stagnant salaries”
    “It’s well known that San Francisco has the highest median rents in the country, but what’s largely unknown is that its 3,292 teachers earn less, on average, than those in most other California public school districts. Many cities where it costs much less to live ? Modesto, Newark and Long Beach among them ? pay teachers more.”

    This message has been brought to you by the Amalgamated Teachers Fuck You Union and gladly copied and pasted by the lefty Chron which isn’t about to pay anyone to investigate any claims or question whether there is a problem here.

    1. It’s well known that San Francisco has the highest median rents in the country

      Yeah, fuck the bay area housing situation. I’m paying more to live in a fucking shack in some guy’s backyard for 8 weeks in silicon valley this summer than my house in TX will cost during the same time period.

  24. And for you sleep-deprived H&R folks:
    “Can San Francisco’s ambitious but troubled Transbay Transit center get back on track?”
    “The Transbay Transit Center was intended as the centerpiece of a grand San Francisco transportation strategy, a connection point where most of the disparate strands of Bay Area transit would all come together.”
    “If it’s just the money, let’s get the money,” says Thea Selby”
    pay wall link: http://www.bizjournals.com/san…..re.html#i1

    No, the intent was never a ‘connection point’; it was an excuse to suck money from the state (moonbeam’s choo-choo) and the feds (mass transit) to pay the unions who vote D in SF.
    Now, given the recent SF supes election of proggies, it’s in real trouble and should be.

    1. Speaking of unions, I got to sit in on a discussion between some film studio management folks about the effect of unions on their trade. I’ve never heard such a thorough trashing of unions in my entire life. They all said that they hire 100% non-union unless they’re required to work in a non-right to work state for a certain project. They more than implied that they get better work from the non-union folks.

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    Hey, anything to stop free enterprise in LA.
    People there forget Kalifornia is a socialist state.
    Maybe this will remind them of that fact.

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