Jury Acquits Woman Arrested for Protecting Her Dog From a Cop
Tiffanie Hupp was charged with obstructing an officer after standing between a state trooper and the dog he wanted to kill.

Last week a West Virginia woman who stood between her dog and a state trooper intent on killing him was acquitted of obstructing an officer by a jury in Wood County. It took jurors just half an hour to acquit 23-year-old Tiffanie Hupp after they watched the video of the incident that Hupp's husband, Ryan, shot with his cellphone.
Trooper Seth Cook came to the Hupps' house on May 9, 2015, in response to a dispute between a neighbor and Ryan's stepfather. There Cook encountered Buddy, a Labrador-husky mix who was chained outside the house. The dog, whom Hupp describes as "a big baby," ran toward Cook, barking, and Cook backed up. Even though the dog had reached the end of his chain and Cook was not in any danger, he drew his pistol. "I immediately thought, 'I don't want him to get shot,'" Hupp, who was in the yard with her 3-year-old son, told the Charleston Gazette-Mail. The video shows her stepping in front of Cook, at which point he grabs her, throws her to the ground, picks her up, leans her against his cruiser, and handcuffs her.
"The officer alleged in the complaint that she raised her arm," Hupp's lawyer, David Schles, told the Gazette-Mail, "but we did stop-frame [of the video] for the jury, and it showed she was stationary, her arms at her side….All she said was 'Don't do that,' and [Cook] grabbed her by the bicep and spun her around, and she ends up falling down."
After he heard about the case, Schles contacted Hupp and offered to represent her for free. "I thought it was outrageous, this girl is being charged for standing in her yard doing nothing but saying, 'Don't shoot my dog,'" he said. According to Photography Is Not a Crime (PINAC), Cook "testified that he was not afraid of the dog, but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case."
Hupp told PINAC her case hinged on her husband's video, which they did not have for weeks after the incident because Cook confiscated the phone, which he was unable to access because it was protected by a password. "Without that video, it's just my word against a state trooper," she said. "Nobody is going to believe my word over law enforcement."
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Why wouldn't I be surprised if this were true?
I caught he implications as well, Lee.
If is true that law enforcement officers are trained to "to kill all dogs that approach [them], even if it was chained and wagging its tail" then it seems to me that the job also requires officers to have low to zero levels of self-awareness, intellectual independence, and/or or empathy.
If the dog is chained and the officer entered the yard... who approached who?
You know who else's subordinates tried to excuse their heinous actions with the excuse that they were "just following orders"?
The facilities management of my office building?
you might want to look for another job. possibly.
Hillary Clinton's?
Lt. William Laws(less) Calley?
"Because of the violence and intense combat, many of our returning veterans want and need mental health care." (Congressional Record, 03/23/2007 Senate p. 7512) George Holy War Bush insisted on invading the former Ottoman Empire that did not invade us, and also that the shellshocked veterans of that fiasco be given priority in government employment. People trained to kill over a politician's standing in the polls are not a source of sane policies in dealing with nonviolent civilians. This may account for why few Canadian cops are "forced" (as police unions tell it) to murder homeowners, hippies and blacks by shooting them in the back.
Roy Walley?
Jojo Kiss?
David Berkowitz?
Winner.
Wartime Japan's Unit 731?
Darth Sidious?
the smurfs?
Katt Wiliams?
Donald Trump's?
Yeah, I want to know more about that. Is he just making shit up, or is that actually part of police training?
Under oath?
Do you think that makes a difference to him? He is a cop. He is above the law.
His training and experience says to lie on the stand.
They must run through a lot of K-9 officers in that department.
911-Operator: What seems to be the problem?
Officer: My K-9 officer has been shot! I think he may be dead.
911-Operator: OK officer, calm down, the first thing we need to do is make sure he's dead.
*blam**blam**blam*
Officer: OK, now what?
K-9 Officer Killed in Line of Duty by Friendly Fire
"I thought he was a civilian!" said the K-9 handler's partner, who got separated from the handler, and mistook the K-9 for a neighborhood pest.
A day of mourning for Killer will be observed on Wednesday, with a memorial service and flags at half mast.
In lieu of flowers, please send donations to the Local Sherriff's Association. You'll get a free bumper sticker for a donation of $50 or more.
Yo, they killed Killer, B!
with numb-chucks and indian burns?
Because they know that if a dog really wanted to fuck them up, there's no way they could get to their gun on time.
So they're scared, and they want to be able to kill any dog, anytime.
So they can. And then they start gaming that to have fun at work.
No hat tip?
Might be something wrong with the referenced "training". Likely, there is, and it could well be lot more than "something".
The cop has been sanctioned for escalating the situation and then lying about it, right?
You spelled promoted wrong.
You spelled Extended Paid Vacation wrong.
Thanks for a note of humor on what was promising otherwise to be a pretty dull day.
Yeah, sure, and he's also been charged for false arrest, false swearing, falsifying a police report, menacing, assault under the color of law, ahHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Sorry, couldn't get it all out.
More like he got an extra week of paid vacation and an invitation to have free drinks with his union rep.
I'd guess the cop was placed on paid administrative leave for two weeks for failure to follow proper procedures. After cuffing the woman and putting her in the back seat of the patrol car he should have gone back and shot the dog. That's how he was trained, wasn't it? So why did he not shoot the dog after arresting the woman and preventing her from interfering with his lawful duty to shoot the dog?
But he followed the procedures from training in this case. Out of an abundance of caution, the Governor should disband the state police.
"testified that he was not afraid of the dog, but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case."
Did they just admit this in the open?
lol. This is why we need a back door people, to stop terrorists like this women.
Jury Acquits Woman Arrested for Protecting Her Dog From a Cop
Can anyone with eyes deny that the US is a veritable Libertopia?
As Louis CK said, you can make a mean comment on Youtube while taking a shit... so... let freedom ring.
Compared to other countries, yes.
That cop was practicing the initiation of force communists, socialists, nationalsocialists, republicans, prohibitionists, democrats and econazis insist is necessary and good--initiation of force that only the criminally insane would oppose.
You just made a post without attacking Christians! Congratulations!
The law enforcement officer just needed better trai--oh. OK.
And I'm sure Cook will face no consequences for assaulting a woman and giving false testimony.
Don't forget the battery.
I recommend putting him in D-Cell.
I recommend shoving D-Cells up his ass until he starts bleeding.
I really like the part where the officer tried to defend his actions because a woman about as big around as a flagpole "raised her arm at him", like he's somehow supposed to feel threatened by that.
It's a furtive moment.
And they're trained to kill anything that moves furtively. She should thank him for not killing her.
He's a massive, state-sanctioned pussy, just like a great many other cops. They probably drive Teslas.
They all drive Toyota Tacomas as a big as my cock.
But, not theirs, apparently.
When's the next Republican debate?
Toyota makes a 3 inch Tacoma?
It may be short, but it's thin too.
He also said that she was armed with a crossbow, though the video contradicts that testimony.
He misspoke. He meant "cross bra".
Like most cops, he's a pussy.
How much do you want to bet that the jurors came out to find tickets on their cars?
So,because the phone was encrypted the trooper couldn't open the phone and delete the video.This proved him a lair and freed this women. The F.B.I has a sad.
The terrorists just won
Wrong! The cops lost this one
Wasn't it G.K. Chesterton who said that it is terrible to contemplate how few cops are woodchippered?
There was also something about lime pits.
you left off the "s"
Bad bad, try again
He was going to shoot a chained dog. Which is a threat to nobody at all.
He claims he was trained to shoot every dog he sees. Is that true? If not, he committed perjury. If so, we have another problem.
He arrested a woman with no legal justification, and lied about it under oath. I don't suppose he is being charged with perjury, is he.
He seized a cell phone without any legal justification. I don't suppose that any action was taken against him for that, was there.
He claims he was trained to shoot every dog he sees. Is that true? If not, he committed perjury. If so, we have another problem.
The added qualifier of 'any dog that approaches'.
Well, since it really means "any dog that the cops says approaches", I think my version is close enough for government work.
When I worked for UPS I had to deal with that every day, often several times. We didn't even carry pepper spray.
That's because your not a pussy
The PD didn't give the phone back until she revealed the password. Tiffanie believes they did a download.
They were obviously trying to find one of the three felonies per day she had committed in the days before.
The PD didn't give the phone back until she revealed the password.
Yet another Consitutional violation.
WHAT?
Source, please. Because that is a big deal.
They were obviously trying to find one of the three felonies per day she had committed in the days before.
That and she's a 23 year old chick. They were probably hoping for some nudie pics.
but she apparently is not a high school teacher. Sad day at the copshop.
Randomly discharging firearms at dogs in public carries with it another set of risks.
Even as dumb as most cops are I'm pretty sure they can figure out which side of the gun is the hurty one, and since their own safety outweighs every other consideration, pulling the trigger is always the safest course.
...since their own safety outweighs every other is the only consideration...
FTFY
Like the threat of instant karma?
I don't suppose he is being charged with perjury, is he.
I don't see why this couldn't be used by other defendants: "Officer Cook did you or did you not lie to the court in The Case Of The Pantshitting Trooper?"
"If not, he committed perjury."
Now you're just being silly. Don't you know that laws only apply to civilians -- not to our brave boys in blue?
If you watch the video, you'll see that the trooper was wearing brown, not blue. In other words, he literally says, "Bring me my brown pants," before going to work.
The last cop convicted of perjury got a $200 fine and a book deal.
Note that according to PINAC, Hupp's public defender repeatedly tried to get her to plead guilty in a case the jury tossed after 30 minutes. If not for a hero stepping in pro bono, she would have been screwed by a perjurious cop and a subhuman prosecutor.
Disgusting.
Yep. And the public defender, Lori Snodgrass, was the wife of W state trooper Bradley Snodgrass, Officer Seth Cook's boss. No conflict of interest there in West Virginia! (Insert joke about them all being interrelated anyway, I suppose.)
A blatant violation of the rules of ethics. I wonder if the dirtbag public defender got a valid waiver? And if not, whether there will be any consequences.
And if not, whether there will be any consequences.
Consequences are for the proles, not the King's Men!
Not only this case. How many pleas have been entered as a result of Snodgrass pressuring defendants because of her husband's position?
It's funny cause it's true!
Jebus, this just gets worse the more you read
Insert joke about them all being interrelated anyway, I suppose.
OK.
And the public defender, Lori Snodgrass, was the sister/ wife of W state trooper Bradley Snodgrass, Officer Seth Cook's boss/ cousin/ brother-in-law.
Seth Cook is his own grandpa.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3CvRC4fAmk
That woman is very brave. Protecting her family, her pet and not buckling to the state.
Is this one of those forums where Nikki pretends that we're all bitter dick sexists bent on enforcing traditional gender roles?
Bitter, party of one... Bitter...
Everything about this case is a fucking joke
That's because according to the article, the original lawyer, a PD, was married to a cop.
It took a whole 30 minutes?
They were deciding if it was worth it to scam lunch from the system.
her generous lawyer should present a bill to the court for his services..... they lost, big time. Perhaps he'll take civil action against the dirty chipper copper for his false arrest, perjury, assault, unlawful theft of personal property (if the phone was hers, he MIGHT be able to justify it as part of her false arrest, but it was someone else's..... just wrong. All wrong)
Based of the speed of the trooper's draw, a cripple chihuahua could have mauled him half to death. Did they press charges on the officer for stealing phones and breaking and entering?
Are you serious? Stealing phones and breaking and entering are routine duties
The initial assigned public defender was the wife of the boss of the cop in question. Naturally, she wanted the WV woman to settle. Very good work by PINAC, which publicized the story and helped put the woman in touch with Charleston attorney David Schels, who took the case pro bono.
The initial assigned public defender was the wife of the boss of the cop in question.
What in that actual fuck?
No conflict of interest there.
Indeed, Tonio, everything was done by the book:
"Hupp found herself disgruntled when her assigned public defender Lori Snodgrass insisted she take a plea deal.
'She just kept saying our best chances were to take a plea bargain. She kept saying I had to take a plea bargain or I might end up in jail for up to a year. I refused to take a plea to something I didn't do.'
She then began hearing rumors that Snodgrass was married to a West Virginia state trooper, which raised questions of a conflict of interest.
But it was PINAC investigator Felipe Hemming who discovered Bradley Snodgrass was Seth Cook's boss.
'Talk about being a mouse in a trap,' Hupp said after learning of the conflict of interest.
"Cook was his own witness. But it didn't even matter, because he lied the whole time. In his testimony, he said he wasn't scared of the dog, but that they trained in police school to shoot the dog."
According to Hupp, Cook also testified that she had a crossbow in her hand, which the video clearly shows isn't the case. He also testified that she raised her hands at him, which the video also shows didn't happen.
Cook not only arrested her for obstructing, he also went inside her home and confiscated all of their electronic devices, including the phone used to record the arrest.
a fucking crossbow? Why not a trebuchet? as pathetic perjury goes, that's pretty bad
I say he didn't go fantastic enough.
He showed up on the scene and there appeared to be no disturbance. She offered him a spiked drink, which he took. They then raped him on a broken glass coffee table for several hours. After which he managed to escape and apprehend her, the video being evidence of his ability to confront his rapists while still delirious and emotionally traumatized.
Boltgun, Plasma Pistol and Chainsword or GTFO.
Type III phaser rifle, or go home. Maybe a Roman disruptor. Even better, the Master's tissue compression eliminator.
The Big FYTW Book of Evidence Manufacturing and Citizen Railroading, obviously.
Snodgrass should be disbarred for not disclosing that conflict of interest.
Cook should be tried for perjury.
I'd love to see this cop's reaction if he had this dog charging at him at a sprint, roaring and barking rabidly:
http://s17.postimg.org/d2fy3ellr/Satan_s_hound.jpg
+1 Caucasian shepherd
Tibetan Mastiff, actually.
Good lord, what era did that thing step out of?!
Fuzzy hound.
While this is a very small step, it is still a step in the right direction and we should be heartened by it.
Is it a "step"? It's one jury making a good call in a case with clear video evidence supporting the defendant (who is a skinny, young woman).
While the cop walks away without being held accountable for his malfeasance.
Rule .30-06
Woodchipper
In that the citizen escaped being charged. Forget about holding cops accountable, we're long past that point. Any day that a citizen can escape getting railroaded is a good day.
She was charged and went to trial. She was not convicted.
A brave DA needs to file charges against this cop. There were enough violations in the process from approaching the dog to arresting the woman to perjuring himself on the witness stand that could get a DA elected many times over. Lots of people would love to see over-the-top aholes like this put in their place.
DAs are as corrupt as the cops. Remember Mike Nifong?
Yeah, I'd say this was a positive "outcome" but in order for it to be a positive "step" it would need to require perjury, filing of a false official report or battery charges against the officer.
What the flying fuck. This is why my moral training requires me to mistrust and dislike police. They range from criminally aggressive meatheads who want to destroy my family to pre-programmed murder bots that will destroy my family with cold indifference.
*Albeit with the occasional non-shithead cop who is so far outside of the bell curve that their existence is noteworthy.
When I read that, I immediately thought of my long-held theory that cops must be trained to simply shoot all dogs that approach them. I used to think I was paranoid, but I had read too many stories where a cop callously killed a dog that was obviously no danger to anyone. This bastard's testimony makes me seem a lot less paranoid.
So the next question is: If this is part of their "training," who writes these training manuals?
they are usually smart enough to throw the "fear for my life" line... first time i ever saw one dumb enough to say "that's what we are supposed to do, even if the dog is no threat"
Muslims.
But, even the non-shithead cops cover for their poopy headed colleagues
"Trooper Cook then went into the home and confiscated all phones and cameras.."
This line terrified me the most. An official enters a private domicile, confiscates evidence that could be used against him and there is nothing you can do about it. Who do you call, the police?
It's certainly an argument for hidden cameras
Yeah, there's a lot of rage-inducing shit in this story, but this takes the cake for me. The officer's line about being trained to shoot dogs, the conflict of interest with the public defender initially assigned to the case, the fact that ABSOLUTELY NO ONE was punished for their blatantly unconstitutional conduct - all particularly heinous. But the fact that he went into their home and stole potentially incriminating materiel - and still faces no consequences! - is insane.
I know this is hindsight, but the husband should have said "Do you have a warrant to enter the premises?" Since he didn't, lock the door on him.
At which point the cop kicks the door and shoots the husband. Because that's how they roll.
Call a hit man.
In a rational society, this cop would be looking at multiple criminal indictments, with firearms enhancers, for breaking and entering, assault, robbery, and perjury.
In this libertarian moment, he will suffer zero consequences.
And unless a black person got shot, the public uproar about incidents like this are more faint than a mouse fart in the wind.
I would settle for a new rule: discharge your firearm, never work as a cop again. We'll host fundraisers for the odd actually heroic shooting, everyone else can take their accumulated benefits and find a new career. We can find some workforce retraining even.
There's a woman who protected her dog from a cop and she's still alive ? Damn, give that woman a medal of courage.
Agreed, Hyperion.
The more I read about Mrs. Hupp the more I appreciate her. From her Facebook page:
"PRIVACY NOTICE:
Warning - any person and / or institution and / or Agent and / or Agency of any governmental structure including but not limited to the United States Federal Government also using or monitoring this website or any of its associated sites DO NOT have my permission to use any of my profile information nor any of the content contained herein including, but not limited to my photos, and / or the comments made about my photos or any other 'picture' of art posted on my profile.
You are hereby notified that it is strictly prohibited to disclose, copy, distribute, disclose or take any other action against me with regard to this profile and the contents herein.
The previous prohibitions also apply to your employee, agent, student, or any personnel under your direction or control.
The contents of this profile are private and confidential information and sensitive.
The violation of my personal privacy is punishable by law.
UCC 1-103 1-308"
Obviously a domestic terrorist.
See, I swore off Derpbook a long time ago. That way, I'm yet able to retain the vague semblance of faith in humanity that I am so barely clinging to.
Me thinks her lawyer wrote that.
I've seen a lot of people concerned about privacy post that on their FB page.
Me too. And it's 100% unenforceable.
Have you got a warrant?
I'm in love.
"Cook confiscated the phone, which he was unable to access because it was protected by a password"
Perhaps m ot for long. Surprised he didn't destroy it in line with yhe same policy that tells him to kill all dogs
I'm surprised he didn't shoot her, the dog, and then shoot the husband also for filming him, 'I thought he had a gun'!, and get away with it.
Remember that kid on the bike who "drew his cel phone" on the big bad law man?
Blam Blam Blam!
Cook "testified that he was not afraid of the dog, but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case."
Jesus Christ.
Go fuck yourself Cook.
trained to be a piece of shit. Nice
And eager to comply.
Probably tortured kittens when he was a kid. That should have been the first indication to ensure that he didn't become a cop.
So when will the officer be charged with perjury and false arrest?
Don't forget assault and burglary, with firearms enhancers.
Right after you get struck by lightning
Trying to figure out if the cop is worse than the person who decided to prosecute, and it's not an easy decision
There's enough bad to go around. Don't worry about who is the worst, unless it's Nikki.
the prosecutor is the worse of the pair.. SHE does it every day to everyone and never thinks twice about it. Her husband is this cop's supe, and she did not call conflict of interest? SHE needs to be disbarred.
No, the public defender is the wife of the cop's supe. The defense attorney that just wanted her to plead guilty to a felony.
They are probably inbred and look alike anyway; what's the difference?
So yesterday I was walking my dog while picking up my son from school. We were waiting at the crosswalk when my dog somehow slipped his harness (no clue how this happened) and bolted through the intersection. A cop who happened to be waiting at the stop sign, puts on his lights and proceeds through the intersection and follows my dog about two blocks, my son and I on foot chasing behind. Once we caught up with them, the officer cuts off my dog's path, gets out and helps us corral him. He smiled, pet the dog, said "have a nice day" and got back in his car and drove off.
Not to piss on the theme here, but I was pleasantly surprised to see a cop do something cool and human.
Full disclosure: I'm white, my dog's a terrier, and we live in the suburbs.
I would have been terrified he was going to shoot my dog.
Me too. The most dangerous gang. I was afraid just listening to the story.
I don't buy into the "OMG there are no good cops" meme sometimes seen on H&R.
Plenty of people have good interactions with Officer Friendly. And many people - not just whiteys - look to the cops to protect them from (nongovernmental) thugs and thieves.
Such people need to get the complex news that, you know, there are bad cops, and there is an many cases a dysfunctional cop culture, which coexists with the Officer Friendlys.
And I'm fairly sure plenty of cop supporters are aware of the problems but see Tough on Crime as having priority.
I don't buy into the "OMG there are no good cops" meme sometimes seen on H&R.
You're a fool if you don't enter every interaction with a cop without the default assumption that this cop is a bad cop, and proceed with extreme caution.
The number of good cops, meaning cops who are consistently good, rather than intermittently good, is vanishingly small. Just look at all the blatant crimes committed by cops right in front of their fellows, who either look the other way (bad) or cheer them on (bad).
We can't say that Eric's cop was a good cop for more than a few minutes. And the odds are, I believe, that he's not consistently a good cop.
I didn't say "assume any given cop is a nice fellow who is totally sympathetic to you."
I said we got a problem with cop abuse, and I learned this from Reason itself.
I'm for skepticism of government across the board - not anarchism, just recognizing that not only do govt employees have the same weaknesses/vices as the rest of humanity, but government service can if anything magnify those weaknesses/vices.
For instance, there are plenty of people who want to beat up people who disrespect them, but are deterred from doing this by fear of consequences. A cop with such inclinations is more likely to get away with beating up people, so is more likely to do it.
But how does that stop me from recognizing that there are cops who do what they're supposed to?
I'm talking about your default assumption. Who knows? Any given encounter can be good or bad. But don't assume its going to be good until the cop gives you something to go on.
The primary problem with cops isn't that the average cop is a bad person, it's that they've basically been indoctrinated into a culture where you MUST support your fellow officers. As a result, bad cops never get punished and cops who aren't necessarily bad people themselves defend their shitty co-officers because they're part of the 'tribe.'
I think that's it in a nutshell.
Cop culture means every good member of the tribe is a bad cop. Even if they don't rob, assault, kill, and/or rape people personally, they cover up for those who do, or else they aren't a good member of the tribe. And covering up for criminals means you are a bad cop.
The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men should do nothing.
That tribal mentality also leads to a belief that everyone outside of their tribe is the enemy.
cops who aren't necessarily bad people themselves defend their shitty co-officers because they're part of the 'tribe.'
That and fear of getting the Serpico treatment.
Which makes them bad cops!
You're absolutely right. As I was chasing them I was thinking: "Shit, he's going to run over my dog, or shoot him, or cite me for not having him on a leash. Or at least be a hug dick about this." I hate that those were my thoughts.
I think that in this case the cop saw "good people" that he could empathize with, so it was easy for him to be nice.
Hug dick? Where um, where do I queue up?
The problem is that Eric's cop could just as easily have shot the dog and arrested Eric with no repercussions. LEOs have the option to be friendly and helpful--or not. You, on the other hand, will quickly find yourself dead or in prison if you were to, say, physically stop a cop from going somewhere in order to ascertain his business in the area. The choice to behave kindly is a luxury enjoyed only by those with the authority to choose otherwise.
Also, let's take a step back. We're talking about a story where the most noteworthy thing is that the cop didn't murder someone's pet.
And, don't forget, the firepower to back it up.
Would that cop turn in his coworker for breaking the law? I seriously doubt it. But he didn't kill a dog, so good cop.
depends on how you define "good cops". if you mean they don't want to shoot a dog, and would have remorse if they did... sure, there might be some. but even a "good" cop, is trained and required to treat everyone they meet as a suspect. they will ask questions designed to get you to entrap yourself. they will hit you with any ticket they think will stick... it is their job. their day to day routine has more to do with collecting fines/ making money for the state, than protecting you.
i'll grant, the protection is nice. management of a car accident scenes is nice. apprehension of violent criminals is nice.... that is why we have them.... but most of their time is not spent on these actions... it's spent on trivial items where any average person could be guilty and fined. the reason we have cops is noble, but the job more often puts them in an us versus them position with the general public.
You're a fool if you don't enter every interaction with a cop without the default assumption that this cop is a bad cop, and proceed with extreme caution.
This sounds pretty much like the advice John Derbyshire gave his children about how to handle every interaction with an African American (except that, while he advised them to proceed with extreme caution, he didn't tell them that the default assumption was that any particular black individual they encountered was a bad one).
Even if most cops are good and law abiding, the fact is that the potential cost of a bad one completely outweighs the help you might get from a good one.
If most cops were good cops there wouldn't be any bad cops because the ones who wanted to be bad would know the "good" cops would bust them
"I don't buy into the "OMG there are no good cops" meme sometimes seen on H&R."
That's because you're a bitter man who hates women.
We all are. TIWTANFL
The problem is not that there are no good cops, the problem is that with the institutions of policing, law, and government themselves all having become corrupt it is literally impossible for there to be a good cop.
Sure there are many cops who could be good cops in the right situation and many of them are even good people but right now if those cops were actually good cops they would have either resigned from the force in disgust or been forced out for being a "rat" and turning their fellow officers in for the crimes they commit.
And many people - not just whiteys - look to the cops to protect them from (nongovernmental) thugs and thieves.
Most of those people have never needed the help of the police. I used to think cops were good people, until I had need of their services. I was on my bicycle and got hit by a car that ran a red light. The cop cited me with DUI (even though the 0.08 that I blew didn't meet the 0.10 threshold for DUI) and no ticket to the guy who hit me. He did this so as to force me to fix the car that hit me. A few years later my apartment was broken into. I called the cops, and after they arrived they ran me for warrants. When that didn't give them an excuse to arrest me, they asked for permission to search the apartment for drugs and guns so they could have an excuse to arrest me. When I declined, they left. Not a single question about the broken window or stolen items. Even my last speeding ticket was a farce. I was going 60 in a 55, and the cop cited me for going 65 in a 45.
The simple fact that criminal cops exist in large numbers is proof that there are no good cops. Good cops wouldn't tolerate that shit.
I saw a state trooper help a black guy change his tire on the side of the road once. Not every cop is a dick. The problem is the system doesn't punish the dicks.
Yeah, this. Most of my interactions with cops have been just fine, and a couple actually went out of their way to help. But they also tolerate and enable the dangerous assholes.
tolerate and enable the dangerous assholes.
This is the biggest problem. I wish the police could see that if they held themselves to a higher standard, people would respect them more. But who needs respect, when you have fear?
Well, stuff like this is quickly lowering the marginal cost of violent resistance against police.
Get rid of their unions and you'd eliminate this bigger problem. Break the tribe. Reward good behavior. Punish bad behavior. Private industry does it every day.
Absolutely, as a recovering LEO myself, I will tell you the biggest barrier to getting rid of bad cops is the union themselves. I remember my agency had a defunct trooper who showed up to his ex-wife's house with the department issued AR-15 ranting and raving. 1 year after the incident, they were finally able to get rid of him. The union does not care about whether this is a good cop or not, it is about holding on to the shitbags.
You really want to clean house, 30 days max from incident to termination. This is job people, and if you screw up you should get fired.
In this case, this guy has no business doing this job. Give him his hearing and then give him his box and show him to the door.
The system is made up of those "good cops."
They're not all dicks. My experience is 50-50.
Sure, it would be nice to have a guy help me put on a tire. But at the risk of being beaten, shot, and imprisoned, I'll shell out for AAA.
Unless someone else is threatening my life, and will likely come back, I don't see a scenario where it would be in my interest to call a cop. Avoid them like ebola.
... but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case.
What the literal fucking fuck?
Cops and even some judges cut out the "reasonable" requirement when Officer Safety is a claimed concern.
I think PETA really needs to jump up the ass of the WV government, if this is true.
PETA thinks there should be no pet dogs; they are all in favor of killing them. Because that's better better than being a "slave to humans".
People are just balding chimpanzees. That is too funny.
Maybe they were the ones training the cops to shoot dogs.
Why? PETA gleefully murders every dog they can get their hands on.
PETA's kill statistics for 2014 are now available. They're even uglier than last year's. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals is once again poisoning over 88% of the dogs and cats entrusted to their care. Perhaps as high as 98%, if you factor in the dishonesty of their reporting, as pointed out by Nathan Winograd of the No Kill Advocacy Center.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....91500.html
PETA itself kills 81% of the animals it takes into its shelters, so they may not be your best allies here.
Unless aliens are eating your house you should rigorously avoid calling for blue diarrhea to discharge on your front lawn.
I actually understood this one.
What good would the cops do if aliens were eating your house? I'll shoot the aliens myself. They can have my skin to wear me as a suit when they flay it from my cold, dead body.
Aliens are bullet proof. Don't you ever watch sci fi movies?
Just did a quick twitter search on "west Virginia state police" and found the West Virginia State Police, Director of Professional Standards.
Maybe we should ask him to what standards Trooper Seth Cook is being held?
After spending some time thinking about it, this really is one of the very worst stories of this sort I've heard. Yeah, he didn't shoot anyone, but his reasons for doing everything were awful.
He didn't shoot because the phone was an objective witness.
Hey Reason, you know what you guys should do? Contact the West Virginia state police to ask if this is actually what police officers are taught. Maybe send a FOIA request or two while you're at it.
If this isn't what officers are taught, maybe put in a call to the DA and ask why Officer Cook isn't being charged with perjury for lying about police training standards while under oath.
Well, if they didn't charge him for his other, obvious, proven lies, why would one more make a difference?
Officer Cook won't be charged for the same reason the DA brought the case against a woman trying to stop her dog from being shot: Because fuck you, pleb. That's why.
Yeah follow ups, you know, investigative reporting.
Anyone can do those things, like, oh I dunno, you.
I am not a professional journalist
In some ways America is the least free developed country. You can say all you want that we have better free speech laws than most, that our economy is freer than some (although not as free as it once was), but we have easily the most oppressive criminal justice system of any Western society.
I can't imagine a cop doing this much less getting away with it in Western Europe.
Nobody expects the New Professionalism!
I think the latest economic freedom rankings has the US not even making the top 10. So that's well into the shitter also.
We really are, without exaggeration, approaching Nazi-level police unaccountability.
I've noticed that too. But, sadly, no one seems to care.
You don't know what you've got 'til it's gone.
Are you kidding? The police beating the shit out of someone to extract a confession is so common over there as to barely warrant a raise eyebrow. People make hay out of America's deplorable prisons, but have you seen the conditions of French prisons? (As just one example). Let's not even get into the fact that in many European countries, the police are a branch of the military.
*raised
This. If you watch the "don't talk to the cops" video, the cop speaking at the end of the video says he spent some time in Europe and he was shocked that almost all police interviews "start physically" which was his polite way of saying you're getting knocked around the interrogation room within the first two minutes.
I heard no such thing in that video.
I LOVE these things!
It is really scary how intonation is everything.
Since its obvious prosecutors will never bring perjury charges against a lying cop, I wonder if perjury by a cop is a due process violation that could be pursued as a civil rights case?
At a courthouse where a public defender can be assigned with such a blatant conflict of interest, no civil attorney in the area in his right mind would take that case.
Yeah, she would need to go outside the area to find someone willing to help her.
She should just go outside the area altogether. As in move somewhere else. That's not a place you want to live.
Reaching? or.... Reiching?
At least Officer Fuckhead got to go home safely that night.
That dog could have been on bath salts, though
Not only was the cop trained to shoot any approaching dog, the photo suggests that he was trained to shoot the dog with a gangsta-style grip, with his handgun tilted 45 to 90 degrees from vertical.
The girl is extraordinarily brave or stupid, and lucky to be alive. In any case, she's an exemplary dog owner.
I'll go with brave. I guaran-damn-tee you she would have no remedy had she let the psychopath kill her dog.
There is always a remedy...........
This.
But she's too young to be paying the price of the remedy, and as much as the cop is a scumbag, I wouldn't consider this one worth it.
Now that a jury established that there was no crime, I assume the cop will be charged with assault and unlawful detention, right?
Aaaannnnd here's why we don't want Apple to allow back door access by the government into cell phones. You know damn well that video would have been gone, daddy gone from that phone.
I'm 47 years old, so anything prior to 1970 is really off my scope. Any grey beards here able to talk me off the ledge that this shit used to happen all the time and that we're not flying into a vortex of pure police statism? I know it's a fellow-well-met trope here, but I'd like to think that we're not simply putting out robotic killing machines in uniforms. But that gets harder and harder to believe. I already hate the corpora-fascistic economic system we're living in, but one can hope that at the individual level, with a little care, one can squeeze through the cracks and get by. But if we're in a country/culture of Singularity-izing interests at the upper level, with Michael Myers caliber killing machines at the individual level, then we really are living in a horror show.
I live and work on the North side of one of the more violent cities in America, but I feel I will likely be killed by a cop before I'm even mugged by a criminal, much less killed. There's a big problem with that.
Not a grey beard, but I suspect this kind of shit happened a lot less prior to public sector unions.
Fuck the FoP.
Well, I don't want Fop, goddamn it! I'm a Dapper Dan man!
I'm a grey beard. And, it's really nice that someone younger is noticing this change. It is worse than it was. Mostly because no one is questioning what is going on.
Yes, in the 1960s counter culture members were calling cops "pigs" and "the bigs" had no problems bashing in hippie brains. But, it was pretty limited to that where I'm from. Although, friends from the south in those days told me that blacks and any who befriended them were assured of the same maltreatment by the police.
And, that televised head bashing during protests is what galvanized this country against the Viet Nam war. Even right wingers were getting tired of seeing people beaten by the cops because they were out protesting the war.
And, I've known a lot of cops in my life. Those my own age, always seemed to be pretty stand up and nice with occasional moments of human weakness. The younger ones? They scare me. They have the "new centurion" attitude and can never be wrong. That's how we are getting to this situation now.
It's all that new and improved training to shoot pets for laughs.
She's lucky she didn't get summarily executed, along with her husband and the dog and the cell phone "disappeared." Such blatant disregard for a cops' AUTHORITAY is usually an instant death sentence.
What a vile, disgusting piece of shit. Although this is a pretty astonishing admission that cops aren't people capable of rational thought and using independent judgement. Nope, they just follow their training like brainless automatons. Why not just replace these mongoloids with robots?
Robocop meets Farah Fawcett, Kirk Douglas and Toto...
fta
"Wood County Magistrate Joyce Purkey appointed Parkersburg attorney Lora Snodgrass to represent Hupp, but Purkey later denied Hupp's request for a different attorney after she learned that Snodgrass is married to a State Police trooper."
http://www.wvgazettemail.com/n.....jlJUW.dpuf
The magistrate should be jacked up.
Cops cannot be trusted. Cops lie all the time and everywhere. They lie for no reason other than that they can get away with it. They lie, lie, lie, and lie again. They lie on their arrest reports, they lie in court, they lie to get a brother cop out of a jam. They lie with abandon. They lie with aplomb. They lie with sincerity. It's the first lesson in police academy: "How to lie sincerely." This is the reason you never, never trust a cop. Every word out of their mouths is a lie. And if they don't like being called a bunch of scum-bag liars, let's see them call out their fellows when they know they're lying.
Can't a brother get a hat tip round here?
If only she was black, then it would've made national news.
She'd be riddled with bullets, then the dog, then the husband and cellphone, and the Solicitor would tell the Feds to give gasoline-sniffing Trooper Seth Cook a Congressional Medal of Honor.
http://www.contracostatimes.co.....1/drummond
Good grief that is some awful writing.
"Cook "testified that he was not afraid of the dog, but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case."
Sowry, its just howz I wuz traynd! Ah fuck you, and your jackboots!
I wonder if a jury would have convicted the husband if he blew the feral pig away that was threatening the life of his wife?
The real story is much worse than this report:
"A West Virginia woman who stood between a cop and a dog he wanted to kill before she was thrown to the ground, arrested and charged with obstructing is in need of a lawyer.
After all, the public defender that had been assigned to her case is married to the state trooper who supervises the trooper who arrested her back in May.
A clear conflict of interest, which probably explains why public defender Lori Snodgrass kept encouraging Tiffanie Hupp to take a plea deal while never revealing that she was married to West Virginia State Police Sergeant First Class Bradley Cooper ? who just happens to be trooper Seth Cook's boss ? the rookie cop who arrested her."
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"... after he placed her in the car, he walked into the house without a warrant and began confiscating everybody's electronic devices, including four phones and two chargers."
http://www.mintpressnews.com/w.....es/208767/
Good day! This post couldn?t be written any better! Reading this
post reminds me of my previous room mate!
He always kept chatting
about this. I will forward this write-up to him. Pretty sure he will have a good read.
Thank you for sharing!
I respect how she defended her dog.
Fortunately, it seems that the lack of immediate bowing to the forces of law and order, for want of a better phrase,hasn't yet become a capitol offense.
It's even worse than this story reports.
The original public defender for Hupp kept advising her to take the plea deal and to not release the video to the public. Oh...and the public defender didn't disclose that her husband was the arresting officer's direct supervisor.
http://www.mintpressnews.com/w.....es/208767/
I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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Great... now we get multiple iterations of mohammedan berserker spam planted here. This, incidentally, is another way the Non Aggression Pact protects the LP from the likes of West Virginia Trooper Seth Cook and Solicitor Chrissy. Nobody can put a suicide-vest fanatic in our midst and gun us down as participants in a tail-wagging menace as long as we are all non-initiatiors of force--at least so long as someone has a smartphone.
I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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Ha ha ha stupid P O S cop! Its scumbag cops like this I just love to hear about in the news getting clipped in the line of duty!
http://www.Anon-Net.tk
Ha ha ha stupid P O S cop! Its scumbag cops like this I just love to hear about in the news getting clipped in the line of duty!
http://www.Anon-Net.tk
and FBI along with their handlers demand Apple to provide the tool to LE to open up anyone's phone? Had that been available, no doubt the Troopers would have accessed the video, realised the victims had the right of it, destroyed the video, and made the entire case into a He Said She Said affair.
High marks for Husband for having the presence of mind to record this.
NOW, I've a question... will these people take legal action against the Trooper as individual, and/or the Department, for not only false arrest, assault, but perjury for lying about what she did? This man oughtn't be a Trooper in direct contact with the public going forward.
Per the WVSP Facebook page, this story doesn't even exist. Why, not a single comment or inquiry about it! Just cute pictures of fit patrolmen posing at charity events, charming children at schools and lots of "Can you identify or help us locate this individual? Not wanted for a crime, we just want to shoot his dog." or some such.
F'ing slimebags.
I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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That cop is a fucking pig. He needs to be kicked off the force.
This is why the asset-forfeiture National Socialists want Apple to betray its customers and Collaborate. You can be sure the Prosecutors and Sheriff's Association lobbyists are going to train officers to shoot the witnesses, then the cellphones, then the dogs before loading up the civil assets and driving off.
So the minarchists are always proclaiming cops are a necessary function of government. If we didn't have cops, then armed intruders might try to shoot your dog; assault and kidnap your wife; break into your home; and steal all your electronics. Okaayy...
The protection of individual rights is the legitimate function of government. Only altruists and anarchists want murder legalized and turn cops into killers.
Nothing will change until Americans start shooting pigs as a pre-emptive measure to protect their own civil rights.
You go first.
I was trained to kill dogs when I'm in absolutely no danger from them or anything else. Just following orders, ma'am.
A human being would know that was wrong. I wonder when he ceased to be a human being. Did he come to the cops that way, or was that part of his "training"?
This is why tons of perfectly law abiding people hate cops. Never in a moments danger, he wants to execute a dog, and when a young woman intervenes to prevent the execution, he pushes her down and arrests her. And then, he confiscates the evidence of his scumbaggery.
Vote Woodchipper 2016!
" following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case.""
Is it any wonder that many people have lost their respect for cops?
Training that requires a "peace" officer to kill any dog that approaches them, even if chained and wagging its tail? Seriously? WTF kind of ignorant training is that? "We are the authority. We can kill any pet we want, just because we want. You must obey us." Welcome to Police State America. I wonder, if this hadn't been in W.V. in a place like, say, the Left Coast, um, San Francisco, would the jury have done the right thing?
Now the trooper should be charged with perjury. I'm not anti-cop at all, but fair is fair. Police should not have taken the man's phone either.
If you want your vote to count, serve on a jury.
If Obama's DoJ sent in a special prosecutor to roust out all the corrupt and/or perjuring officials in this snakepit, I would gain some respect for them.
I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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I just realized this was written in 2002. I wonder what the gun crime rate is now. Any government that tells you that you have no right to self defense is not looking after your best interest. Self defense is the most basic right anyone has. No government or police can protect you. I can't believe you all allow this to continue. I keep a gun at home for self defense and have a license to carry it concealed any where I go. And I do. If I am attacked then at least I have a chance to stay alive. By the time the police arrive they can either arrange for my body to be picked up or take a statement from me. I choose the later. Britons let a right be taken from them and now it will be much harder to get it back. But you should try.
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The worst is the prosecutor who decided to proceed with this case. At best, there was conflicting eyewitness testimony and he/she took the word of the cop. I'm a lawyer (not criminal) and if there's a constant they know, it's that lots of cops lie. Worse, at some point before trial he/she saw the video and chose to continue. This is SOP. A winning ledger is all that matters. Seeking the truth was for law school only. Prosecutors have full immunity, so they can lie, withhold evidence and manufacture evidence, and are untouchable. Ask Ted Stevens. Private lawyers have no such immunity. There is no basis for the distinction.
As a lawyer in his 50's with a spotless record, I have seen how many bad cops there are from first hand experience. I've been pulled over for no reason other than driving the "wrong" car or driving while wearing a hoodie at 5:30 am. I saw a teen arrested (and have to go to court) for not crossing the street fast enough while leaving a concert, and charged with failure to obey. He didn't say a word before being arrested. I asked the cop why he was being arrested, and he whispered to me "because I need to set an example here."
Very sad, because cops want respect but do little to earn it. And yes, there are good cops, but they circle the wagons for their own, so I have no sympathy.
Cook "testified that he was not afraid of the dog, but was following training that required him to kill all dogs that approach him, even if it was chained and wagging its tail as Buddy was doing in this case.".
Wasn't there a ruling about "I was just following orders" made after Nuremburg?
Yeah, I doubt most of them can afford a Tesla.
Except the Roadster, Teslas are more boring in appearance than perfect cubes, are retardedly overpriced, and suck functionally. Dumbass cops making far more than they should be on their bloated public incomes love them, I bet.
uh, that's "Prii".
It's that way a lot more nowadays generally -- people don't know how to deal with everyday obstacles anymore, so they shit their pants and call the boys in blue.
There were many hellhounds on my paper route too. The worst of the lot were the little ones --fucking shih tzus and chihuahuas with a chip on their tiny shoulders-- regardless of size though, the terrifying snap to the snout with a paper by a scrawny teenage girl was somehow perfectly adequate to protect myself from canine aggression.
oh you funny old-timers with your paper routes!
Today, all your parents would be in jail if they tried to send out children alone before dawn, carrying a big assed heavy bag full of papers on their shoulders.
Not to mention having them go out collecting on Fridays.
Nowadays it's done by middle-aged guys in station wagons that got rejected by the post office.
You might be wrong.
If you keep track you will find that most cops live lifestyles that you wouldn't expect them to be able to live on their base salaries. But nobody makes base salary; there's all the mandatory overtime, shift differentials, etc.
Exactly my point above.
Second jobs working security...
And confiscated drugs and cash that never quite made it into the evidence room, payouts from "local business leaders" to look the other way, etc.
The guy down the street from me rides his motorcycle on the weekend escorting funerals that end about a half mile from the house. Seems like a pretty good gig to get paid to ride your motorcycle on weekends with the flashers on and get paid. I routinely see 50+ car funerals. Who has that many friends?
Bribes, er, unreported asset forfeiture...
I had a cop friend doing exactly this. He retired and lived in a $M home, bought a new Mercedes SUV and went through Harley's like there was no tomorrow.
Then, he was arrested for child molestation on a five year old. And plead guilty.
It turned out his active cop son was the one supplying him with all that money. He was charged with providing drugs to a woman informant who was also his lover. The money came from drugs he was selling on the side. He worked with a SWAT team, serving warrants and busting into drug dealer's houses.
I can't tell you how shocking it is when you think you know someone and you spend time with them, to have this kind of thing emerge.
Right back to decriminalize drug possession and use. And, make a college degree in an appropriate major a requirement for entry into the hallowed halls of administration of justice. Maybe the cops we get, won't be such troglodytes.
+1 Knapp Commission
And on many of those they are allowed to wear their uniform and exercise their police powers. Don't forget the soft shakedown where ABC regulations often require that you hire off-duty police for event security. There is one local, government owned venue which is popular for weddings. If you want to have the reception onsite and serve alcohol (duh), guess who you have to hire?
I'm willing to bet many officers get meals and services comped by business owners who mouth things like local hero and civic pride but are secretly terrified of being put on the officer shitlist.
One of the first directives from our new police chief when he took over several years was to put a stop to this. The sheriff's already had the directive in place, and State Troopers are forbidden to moonlight* by state law.
*In anything that would create a conflict of interest, such as security.
Bribes, shakedowns, forced blowjobs, graft, asset-forfeiture and confiscated cellphones...
As a business owner, I'll just say that the endless parade of POA requests for handouts/donations/etc... is aggravating.
What I love is that the blue diarrhea is discharging and is not the actual discharge. It's like discharge squared.
All government workers love them. The Denver Federal Center parking lots probably contain half of the Teslas sold in Colorado over the last 5 years. At least they do for about 2 hours a day.
Considering all the parenting "techniques" that my mother employed that would land her in jail now, the paper route would barely register.
yeah, the Post Office never did like station wagons. Their mail trucks are way cooler....
One word: online.
You know like this forum here.
Hey:
I've owned several Chi's. They are willing to wrestle and even fight, with dogs ten times their size. They are proof that dogs are instinctively wolves at heart and have no concept of their relative stature. They have a lot of heart!
You're all a bunch of doofi.
"I had a cop friend..."
I doubt it.
Cops are not your friends. I grew up with a bunch of them and thought we were friends. In the end they used their friendship to lure people into committing crimes which they then busted them for. Fortunately for me when they tried it with me I declined. One of them tried to entice me into aiding him in committing a theft. The dumbshit should have known better. I have never stolen anything in my life.
I don't speak to any of them anymore.
Hopefully he gets stabbed to death on the inside.
There is a much simpler solution: privatize police. That way, they can be easily fired, and they are subject to the usual criminal and civil legal liabilities. Also, it's something any town can already do on its own.
Can his second directive be to stop shooting dogs?