Donald Trump, Conspiracy Theorist
A conspiratorial vibe is central to Trump's campaign message.
Since Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia's death this weekend, conspiracy theorists have muttered amongst themselves that some sort of foul play may have been involved. Yesterday, Donald Trump added fuel to the conspiracy theorists' fire.
Radio host Michael Savage asked Trump about the notion that Scalia may have been murdered, and Trump responded: "It's a horrible topic, they say they found the pillow on his face, which is a pretty unusual place to find a pillow. I can't give you an answer." It's not an outright endorsement of the conspiracy theory, but he's not dismissing it either. Which means he's letting it live and grow.
Trump has a history of this sort of thing. In addition to cozying up to popular conspiracy theorists on their radio shows, he generated media attention for himself in 2011 by playing to the birther crowd and its nutty ideas about President Obama's birth certificate and qualifications to be president. "You are not allowed to be a president if you're not born in this country. Right now, I have real doubts," he said. Trump made a big show of sending private investigators to Hawaii to look into the president's background, warning that they might reveal "one of the greatest cons in the history of politics and beyond."
On the same day, the White House released President Obama's birth certificate. Trump gave himself credit for the release, saying he was proud, "because I've accomplished something nobody has been able to accomplish."
All this happened as Trump was flirting with running for president on the GOP ticket. Ultimately, he chose not to run in 2012, but before he opted to stay out of the race, he rose as high as second place in preliminary polling.
You can think of his 2011 birther escapade as a kind of test run for his 2016 campaign. Indeed, the lesson Trump seems to have taken from that episode is that it served as a path to political success. "I don't think I went overboard. Actually, I think it made me very popular… I do think I know what I'm doing," he said in 2013.
So it's no surprise that he's now playing to the Scalia truthers now, nor that he is flirting with a kind of 9/11 trutherism when he accuses the Bush administration of having knowingly lied in order to push the country into war in Iraq, as he did in Saturday's GOP debate.
Now, as Byron York wrote on Twitter yesterday, you can reasonably interpret that charge as a general nod toward the idea that the Bush administration hyped the war effort beyond what the actual evidence could support, that the case for the war was, well, trumped up and ultimately misleading, built on insufficient proof, overconfidence, and mistaken assumptions. But Trump's attack also leaves room for more radical, less grounded conspiracies about Bush and the war as all, and I suspect this is not an accident.
Indeed, Trump's entire campaign message is built on a kind of conspiracy theory vibe, if not a specific conspiracy theory: His basic pitch to voters is that the elites you don't trust have been lying to you, abusing you, refusing to tell you the truth about what's really going on in the country and the way the world really works. And Trump, the straight-shooter, is the only one willing to tell it like it is. He both acknowledging and affirming the conspiracist's outlook on the world.
Whether or not Trump believes any or all of this himself is largely beside the point; he has figured out how to exploit it, and has made doing so central to his campaign.
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I used to often wake up with my pillow over my head. No one pushing down on it, as I recall. True story.
I suspect many people go to sleep with a pillow on their head, especially in noisy or bright environments.
I can't work off your joke. Are you Tulpa?
haven't you figured it out? we are all tulpa.
I am Spartulpacus.
I can't work off that, either. Selfish prick.
Don't blame FOE on the limits tgat you place on yourself. You CAN work off that. You just need more confidence.
Yes, maybe I can. I spent the night drinking with a Chilean who loves Allende and hates Pinochet. It was a good night.
Mea Tulpa
Mea maxima Tupla
This reminds me...to whomever recommended the "Spartacus" series on Netflix:
Thanks. My wife really appreciated all the loin cloth clad penises featured in this show.
Seems the writers have a really difficult time cursing properly though. Reminded me of a tween trying to hard to fit into an older group of kids
Give Rome a shot when you finish Spartacus.
Man, I loved Rome. One of HBO's better productions.
+1 on Rome
Rome is better than Spartacus for sure, but has way less butt sex, if you're into that sort of thing.
Seems the writers have a really difficult time cursing properly though.
Once again the censor gods spread cheek and insert cock in ass!
Once again the censor gods spread cheek and insert cock in ass!
This is an accurate description of the dialogue in Spartacus.
Spartacus couldn't be any gayer if the gladiators were fucking each other. Or wait, they are ...
Hey, you go into a show about gladiators you get what you deserve. But there were plenty of naked ladies, as well.
Any show involving slaves fighting eachother is going to degenerate into BDSM fetish porn.
As a grad student in classics, Rome is absolutely spot on in terms of historical realism while Spartacus is actually not bad aside from some of the sillier elements (see the 300-style karate fighting). Fans of those two shows should watch BBS's I, Claudius for an oustanding adaptation of the Tacitus, Suetonius take on the Julio-Claudian emperors. Can't recommend it highly enough.
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No one needs 3 types of pillows!!BERN!!!
Someone in your home lacks the upper body strength to finish what they started.
Come November, instead of Reason's traditional, stupid, "Who Each Reason Staffer Voted For And Why" article, Reason should replace it with a "Which Candidate Would Each Reason Staffer Would Most Like To See In A Woodchipper And Why" article.
After all, why should Trump be the only one respected for violent rhetoric?
Man I just keep waiting for that woodchipper meme to get old but it never does.
Seen any commenter handles lately, Hugh? That should tell you all you need to know.
I don't look around in the shower Epi. I keep my eyes shut tight and sing Matchbox 20 songs in my head.
Matchbox 20? That's like *asking* to get shower raped. You should try Blink 182 instead, that drives everyone away, including your own sanity.
He's not "asking" for anything unless he is singing Hootie and the Blowfish tunes!
I'm disappointed that "Reason commenters could send a judge to a special place in hell" meme didn't take off?
Any staffer who doesn't respond with "all of them" should also be condemned to the chipper.
I'm not an expert on hit men, but is it usual to smother someone and then leave the friggin pillow on the victim's head?
Sure. It averts suspicion about it being a professional hit.
Well, you have to admit that it is suspicious. I mean, an overweight 79 year old man dying in his sleep. What are the odds?
Scalia had a dream once where he ate a giant marshmallow and when he woke up Chris Christie was gone.
Lol
Are you implying that they were sleeping with each other? The sheer geometry of that image is mindboggling, to say nothing of horrifying.
Trump is a hustler.
Trump says what ever he needs to say to close the deal.
If the buyer (voter) needs to hear a conspiracy theory, then Trump is going to provide a conspiracy theory.
I don't think Trump actually believes half the shit he says.
In other words, you've never seen Trump and Hillary in the same room at the same time?
Two "men" enter but neither leaves? I like it.
"Trump and Hillary in the same room at the same time?"
That's just gross. His hair, her cankles. Naked. In a bed...
If you "inspire" Nutra-Sweet, you will never be forgiven, Rufus.
I don't think Trump actually knows he said half the shit he says. You can't possibly live with that mouth just randomly dropping all the crap that falls out of it all day long, 24/7, without developing a filter that keeps it from reaching your brain. Or evolving ear flaps. Maybe ear hair dense enough to block the sound, but that amount of ear hair would be so incredibly dense you could sweep it up over your head in a fucking pompadour.
Wait a second..........
You keep telling yourself Trump randomly says things without a filter, then make fun of his hair. That's a lot easier than actually trying to understand how he operates.
Bob, I'm "Jerryskids". Jerryskids. You think I don't know how grifters, carnies, con-men, snake-oil peddlers, hustlers and whores operate? You don't gotta sell the mark, you sell you and the mark sells himself, baby. It's how the biggest cons get to the "holy shit, how could anybody be so fucking stupid as to believe this shit was for real?" stage - because you have to either believe that the shit is for real or you have to believe that you're so fucking stupid that people will say "holy shit, how could anybody be so fucking stupid as to believe this shit was for real?" and it will be you they're talking about. Do you know which option people pick when confronted with that choice, Bob? Donald Trump knows.
That applies to almost any politician, I'm not disputing that. I'm just amazed how many commentators from the left, right, and everywhere else think Trump is stupid and has no clue what he's doing. I'm no big fan of Trump and frankly I don't care if he believes what he says or not. What I find interesting is the way he's running his campaign and everyone's reaction to it.
And I don't think he actually understands the other half of what he says.
I don't for a minute think Trump is stupid. He'd be living in the streets penniless if he was.
He is an unethical bastard that knows how to use and abuse the legal system to further his business interests all while running his mouth non-stop to distract the easily-confused.
This is not, however, a direct disqualification for being president.
when he accuses the Bush administration of having knowingly lied in order to push the country into war in Iraq, as he did in Saturday's GOP debate.
Who doesn't do this? I thought it was common knowledge that Bush claimed that Iraq had a stockpile of nuclear missiles aimed at the US. Instead of "if they produce WMD it might be too late" the Bush administration repeatedly claimed that Iraq had stockpiles of them. Upon finding only chemical weapons precursors, like those used against the Kurds, and tons of C-4, not that dissimilar from what was used on Tokyo or Dresden, but no assembled nuclear warheads, we all know that Bush lied us into war, don't we? WMD are not Nuclear, Biological, Chemical anymore, only multiple re-entry vehicle inter-continental ballistic missiles are WMD's.
WMD are not Nuclear, Biological, Chemical anymore, only multiple re-entry vehicle inter-continental ballistic missiles are WMD's.
I know it is stupid, but sawed off shotguns are considered WMDs.
Context, Florida Man, context. If it is a citizen of the US, a sawed off shotgun is clearly a WMD. If it is a terrorist State run by a dictator who slaughters his own citizens, it is the MIRV ICBM, standard.
Whoops, missed the sarc.
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Anti-war leftists consider depleted uranium as WMDs.
That would make a cool wedding band.
This would be a great sentence to cease feeding into the Trump media hysteria
His basic pitch to voters is that the elites you don't trust have been lying to you, abusing you, refusing to tell you the truth about what's really going on in the country and the way the world really works.
This is actually true. However, he just wants to install himself as one of the lying abusers.
^This. Can't be repeated enough. I'd say he's the king of the lying abusers already. I'm just awed that people buy it.
How does that make him different from Sanders?
Sanders IS Trump. They both peddle conspiracy theories as facts in order to stay relavent.
"Radio host Michael Savage asked Trump about the notion that Scalia may have been murdered, and Trump responded: "It's a horrible topic, they say they found the pillow on his face, which is a pretty unusual place to find a pillow. I can't give you an answer." It's not an outright endorsement of the conspiracy theory, but he's not dismissing it either. Which means he's letting it live and grow. "
You know what would also be really weird? A political assassin who was too stupid to remove a pillow he just used to smother a man to death.
What about Trump's answer is wrong? Yeah, it is pretty weird to find a dead person with a pillow on their face. And even weirder to scramble frantically to avoid any kind of autopsy.
Do I think he was murdered? No. Do I think how this was handled stinks on ice? Yes.
"Yeah, it is pretty weird to find a dead person with a pillow on their face"
How so? Someone moves in their sleep or just pulls a pillow over their head, then has a heart attack in their sleep.
That's not a weird situation at all, but it ends with a dead person who has a pillow on their head.
I think its extraordinarily unusual, is all. And deaths in unusual circumstances often get an autopsy.
Put it this way: if you wanted people to think he was killed and it was covered up, you'd handle it exactly the way they did.
I think it would be odd if he didn't have a pillow on his head.
Why has he got a tea cozy on his head?
Yeah, I find the rush to declare a sitting Supreme Court Justice dead of "natural causes" without any sort of medical examination wierd too. Especially when said Justice's death would shift the balance of power of the Court.
the pelican brief . . . .
What did the family want? If they don't want their loved one carved up and he has a history consistent with his death, there is no need to do an autopsy. Wackos will think stupid things is not a reason to do an autopsy.
Other people have a stake in this guy's life, besides the family.
As a sitting government official, that in itself means that the nation has an interest in making sure that he wasn't murdered. It's probably just good practice to perform autopsies on any government official who dies unexpectedly without a medical professional present. It certainly should be standard policy for congressmen, presidents, vice-presidents and supreme court justices.
So if you take a government job, you lose your right to privacy? Sorry, I doubt this is an "unexpected" death. His physician probably knows exactly what killed him, but is ethically obligated to keep it secret.
So if you take a government job, you lose your right to privacy?
Yes, you do in many cases. Anyone with a security clearance has given up their right to privacy in many respects.
Yes, you do in many cases. Anyone with a security clearance has given up their right to privacy in many respects.
So I can request any detail of any government employee's life because I'm a tax payer? I want a complete sexual history of every government employee because they could be blackmailed for tranny cruising.
His physician probably knows exactly what killed him, but is ethically obligated to keep it secret.
Doctor patient confidentiality ends when the patient dies.
Since when have you heard of doctors refusing to disclose the exact cause of death of a public official ?
The cause of death was natural causes. There is your answer. I don't see why you think you are entitled to someone's personal history.
What did the family want?
Autopsies can be, and are, often ordered by a medical examiner or coroner, regardless of the family's wishes.
You may think that's wrong, but that's the norm, and we're looking at how this case departed from the norm.
But if the coroner doesn't recommend an autopsy the family can request one. My point is the family didn't think it was unexpected or odd, the coroner agrees, done and done. I don't think the American people have a right to an autopsy because they are paranoid.
"I don't think the American people have a right to an autopsy because they are paranoid."
If he was the President, would the American people have the right to an autopsy?
And if so, why only the President, why draw the line there and not at SCOTUS Justices?
Uh, no. If the president had a heart condition and died of a heart attack, I don't see why an autopsy would be necessary.
" Do I think how this was handled stinks on ice? Yes"
Um...
"So, family of Scalia. All obvious signs point to a heart attack or something. Want an autopsy? Since this is Texas, you can say yes or no."
"Our 79-year old overweight relative with a history of heart conditions apparently died of a heart attack in his sleep. And you think we want an autopsy? Eh, we'll pass."
"Sounds good. Following normal Texas procedure, we'll go ahead and get you that death certificate and you can transport the body for whatever funeral rights your family does."
"Thanks for making this so quick and painless for us in our time of grief."
"No problem."
Yeah, that totally "stinks on ice".
I sleep on my side, so I always have a pillow on my face. Some people sleep on their stomachs. It seems highly likely that a person who died in their sleep had a pillow on their face.
In the conspiracy theorists' defense, the Obama Administration has been pretty fucking abysmal at executing just about any plan they've ever had. Would you really expect them to do any better assassinating one of the Nazgul?
If the Obama administration were trying to kill Antonin Scalia, he'd still be alive.
Touche.
What if it was just some random gay dude who worked at the hotel?
I could imagine someone like that just sneaking into his room at night, smothering him in his sleep, and running away.
What is crony capitalism, rent-seeking, regulatory capture, and all the other features of our modern Total State, if not a series of conspiracies between apparatchiks inside and outside of government?
And never mind the purely internal government conspiracies. Why do you think all these people have private email accounts for doing government work?
The One hasn't even nominated anyone yet and Hillary's already playing the race card
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Say what you will. I for one would be a lot more comfortable if they had done an autopsy. I'm not one to believe in conspiracy theories. And, I really don't believe in one here. But, when you read that a lot of the politicians really love the show House of Cards (It's one of Obama's top 10), I do wonder in the back of my mind if maybe some crackpot out there is taking it a bit too seriously. Especially with all the left wing angst over gun control in the past few years. I think an autopsy is appropriate for any person who has as much influence over our constitutional protection as a SCOTUS justice has.
After Breitbart, I completely understand why nobody wants to do the autopsy on Scalia.
So now we should have "Desecrate a corpse against the wishes of the family" theater just to soothe the mind of the paranoid public? Yeah, that sounds reasonable. The people who believe conspiracy theories aren't going to be swayed by evidence anyway.
Pillow Assassin would be a great band name.
Would that be people that assassinate pillows?
I destroyed some pillows during the course of my puberty stage, I can tell you.
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Here's an idea. Trump/Sanders.
They'd win.
This election season? Yes.
Hold on a minute: is the pillow not supposed to go on top of your head?
It's more difficult to bite down when the pillow is on top of your head instead of vice versa.
Go on
But isn't the one biting the pillow usually face down?
So, you're saying, Peter, Trump indulged the crazy prejudices of potential supporters so as to not lose their vote?
Obama, Hillary, Bernie, and every candidate either Democrat or Republican ever in history has done the same. Democracy how does that work?
Just learn to love the Trumpenfurer, Peter, or be prepared to be purged during the 1000 year Trumpenreich.
Donaldo Mussolini?
"His basic pitch to voters is that the elites you don't trust have been lying to you, abusing you, refusing to tell you the truth about what's really going on in the country and the way the world really works."
A healthy skepticism for the truth-telling abilities of government indicates a reasoned mind. This pitch here is a noble one in spite of its imprisonment in Trump's authoritarian mindset.
+1 right message (as quoted above) wrong messenger.
"His basic pitch to voters is that the elites you don't trust have been lying to you, abusing you, refusing to tell you the truth about what's really going on in the country and the way the world really works."
Is that controversial though? Sounds pretty accurate.
"Is that controversial though?"
It's worse than controversial. It's conspiratorial.
"It's worse than controversial. It's conspiratorial."
Agreed but doesn't Reason do same basic thing?
Just because it's a conspiracy doesn't make it false.
"Just because it's a conspiracy doesn't make it false."
But according to the editors of Reason, a Conspiracy Theory is false by definition.
See the headline article about Bush Lied, People Died...
"he is flirting with a kind of 9/11 trutherism when he accuses the Bush administration of having knowingly lied in order to push the country into war in Iraq, as he did in Saturday's GOP debate."
This is very far from the case. The Bush Administration repeatedly lied about Saddam's involvement in 9/11 (non-existent, of course), the likelihood that he would use his weapons of mass destruction against the U.S. (he didn't use them when he had them when the U.S. attacked him in the first Gulf War), the likelihood that he was developing nuclear weapons, and the likelihood that he would use such weapons against the U.S. President Bush frequently called Saddam a "madman" who was likely to attack the U.S. at any time. This was a deliberate lie. I assume that everyone in the Bush Administration believed that Saddam had stocks of nerve gas, but the 9/11 involvement, the nuclear weapons program, and above all the notion that Saddam was at all interested in mounting a direct attack on the U.S., were fictions. The Bush Administration was determined to invade Iraq and establish a massive and permanent military presence in the Middle East and they seized on Saddam as an excuse.
So the fact that regime change was official US policy under Bill Clinton has nothing to do with this? Or are the Clinton's "in on it", too.
BTW: Find for me where Bush said Saddam was involved in 9/11, or where Bush said Hussein was preparing to mount a direct attack on the US? The concerns were, he did have WMDs (he used them on the Kurds and the Iranians FFS), Hussein deliberately obstructed Hans Blix and the rest of his team (Hussein obviously thought he had a nuclear weapons program), Hussein seriously abused the oil for food program, repeatedly shot at US aircraft enforcing the no-fly zone, provided international support for terrorism (25K per Palestinian suicide bomber), and was quite probably, one of the worst dictators in the world at that time.
i am not arguing about whether we SHOULD have invaded or not. It doesn't much matter now, and people of goodwill could disagree about whether all of the above warranted the invasion, or if indeed, it would make things worse. But, i am pretty sick and tired of the whole "Bush lied, people died" schtick. Congress had access to the same intel. Clinton, as a Senator, voted FOR the resolution to invade Iraq.
And BTW: "when the U.S. attacked him the first Gulf War" sounds like the US was the aggressor. You do remember Iraq invaded Kuwait? Threatened invasion of Saudi Arabia. International coalition and all?
But, i am pretty sick and tired of the whole "Bush lied, people died" schtick.
Same here. The basic intel picture he presented was pretty much the consensus at the time. It turned out to be inaccurate, but at the time it was widely accepted.
Including by the Clinton administration....
Yes, Democrats were all for the invasion too.
There were many people, however, calling bullshit on the whole argument.
"It doesn't much matter now..."
Clearly not to you, but the Russians are making major inroads in Iraq, both in business and military. It matters now to both the Russians and the Iraqis.
""Bush lied, people died" schtick. Congress had access to the same intel. Clinton, as a Senator, voted FOR the resolution to invade Iraq."
I think your mistake is to buy into the pretext for the invasion - nasty dictator, WMD etc, and to assume that the stated pretext was the motivating factor behind Congressional support. I doubt this. I think it was mostly very banal domestic political considerations that lead to the war. It was a vote winner.
The US helped Saddam use WMD on the Iranians, supplying intel on Iranian troop locations. After Saddam gassed thousand of Kurds, April Glaspie, the US ambassador to Iraq under Bush I, told Saddam to his face that the US wanted a "deeper, broader relationship" with Iraq and assured him that the US had no objection to an "adjustment" of Iraqi/Kuwaiti boundaries, as long as Saddam didn't take the whole thing.
Bush II repeatedly said that Saddam was a "madman" and that it was only a matter of time before he attacked the US. A White House press release described Saddam as a "continuing and growing threat" to the US. Cheney repeatedly alleged that Saddam was involved with al Qaeda. Rice used the famous "we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud," implying that there was a real risk that Saddam would attack the US with a nuclear weapon, or give one to terrorists.
As for Clinton, find for me where he invaded Iraq and cost thousands of American lives.
"The US helped Saddam use WMD on the Iranians"
Poison gas is not a WMD. But that's beside the point. All of these are simply pretexts. Nasty dictators with scary weapons at their disposal exist all over the planet, and some of them are seen as vital partners to the US. Congress went along with the war because they thought it was good politics, and they were right. Even today, criticism of the war can lead to the sort of treatment Trump was recently subjected to.
I agree that poison gas is not a WMD. Only nuclear weapons are true WMD, in practice as well as "worst case" scenarios. But I was adopting the neocon terminology, which did label them as such.
And in the context of the time soon after 9/11 a claim was presented that Saddam might give WMDS to Islamists.
I think that if Bremer had not disbanded the Iraqi Army we probably wouldn't be discussing it now.
Who could have thought a few hundred thousand out of work men , many with families to feed, would get up to no good.
You know what's even weirder than a Supreme Court Justice having a pillow over his head? The fact that no Supreme Court Justice has ever been assassinated. Contrast that with the 9% of US presidents who have been.
Parchment barrier. Better than Kevlar.
Despite the fact that it is statistically more likely for a Supreme Court justice to die when the opposite party is in power, based on historical data.
So you are saying that most vacancies are likely to affect the balance of the court. I.e. an R Justice will likely be replaced by a D Justice and vice versa. Is that right? If so, that does add another wrinkle to the metaphorical bedclothes.
naturally, such a conspiracy would be vast and left wing.
"So it's no surprise that he's now playing to the Scalia truthers now"
What Trump says here is entirely reasonable: "It's a horrible topic, they say they found the pillow on his face, which is a pretty unusual place to find a pillow. I can't give you an answer." Trump admits he's in no position to shed any light on the question.
We have reached peak Trump Madness. It literally does not matter what he says anymore. He can declare that the sky is blue, and his critics will declare it outrageous. If he advocates eating orphans, his supporters will say he didn't go far enough and we were all thinking it. Nope. Americans do not deserve to vote. Luckily, we probably won't be burdened with that inconvenience once Trump ascends to the imperium.
Before we start getting all loony, why does anyone even believe that there was a pillow over his head?
Trump could have just pulled that out of his ass.
It was a detail included in the initial news reports.
And initial news reports are never wrong.
"And initial news reports are never wrong."
Don't put too much stock in news reports. The pillow story originates, I believe, from the man who discovered the body. As far as I know, he hasn't changed his story.
Well, that particular detail hasn't been corrected or redacted.
The pile of dog shit coming out of every information source means you'll never know what happened to Scalia. He could have been testicle cuffed to the headboard. We will NEVER know. Arrogance is thinking you could possibly know.
Did straffinrun just invent a new use for the verb, "scalia?" I think he did. Well done, straffinrun.
That sounds very painful and scary.
OK, nobody is thinking enough in conspiracy epicycles. How about this: the lack of autopsy is an intentional ploy by Obama (or some other Democrat) to get Republicans and others upset, so that they get upset and can then be tarred as "wacky conspiracy theorists"....
It's already working if that was his goal.
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Ah Peter. Exploitation of a conspiracy theory.
Who do you suppose is exploiting the biggest conspiracy theory around today, that science is perpetrating a hoax around climate change? Most of your readership buys into that one, as does Trump? Who exploits that one? Think.
Shorter Jack: "Herpa derpa derp. I can't understand opposing arguments."
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It's not an outright endorsement of the conspiracy theory, but he's not dismissing it either.
Since when is it his job to dismiss that theory (however ridiculous anyone may think it is).
If he dismissed it out of hand you would likely say he has no evidence to support dismissing the theory (which is of course true - no one has enough evidence at this point to say anything - except that the man is dead.)
Just because you don't like Trump doesn't mean you should take something he says and try to twist it into something it isn't. Shame on you.
We don't have any evidence there isn't an invisible evil dwarf flying around the dark side of the moon in a tea cup shooting lightning from his nipples either, but that's no reason to treat it seriously.
Or are you seriously saying that whenever an overweight 79 year old man with a history of heart conditions dies in his sleep, we should have an autopsy (over the objections of his family) on the outside chance of foul play? Call me crazy, but that seems excessive.
Not whenever *any* 79 year old w/ heart condition dies, but whenever a SCOTUS justice dies an unattended death in a nonmedical setting, I think it is reasonable to demand an external examination at the death scene by a forensic pathologist, and blood toxicology studies at the very least.
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This sort of thing being a totally reasonable, noncommittal statement in answer to a Q when one has no inside info? WTF was he supposed to A? Is he supposed to tell Savage, "No, only stupid losers like you suspect anything!"?
It's notable the author hasn't told us the 'correct' answer to the Savage question
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Suderman's a jerk - Trump's response was quite logical, unlike Suderman's claim that "this allows conspiracy theories to grow." Suderman needs to take a course in logic and quit manufacturing conspiracy theories.
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