Marijuana Ballot Initiatives

Doesn't America Deserve a Marijuana Rights Movement That Just Wants to Eliminate Legal Penalties Surrounding Marijuana?

The marijuana movement shouldn't have to be a fight between crony capitalists and public health nannies.

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Last week the International Business Times ran a very interesting profile of Dan Riffle, who recently quit his position as federal policy director for the Marijuana Policy Project over his disquieting sense that the movement is becoming too centered on the interests of the businesses trying to make money in a slowly legalizing marijuana industry.

It is a very interesting look at tensions dividing the marijuana legalization movement, which became of big policy importance when voter disquiet derailed an Ohio legalization initiative that would have created a legal cartel to control all pot production. Jacob Sullum reported in detail about the Ohio initiative and why it failed for Reason last month.

The profile made me wish America had a more openly and totally libertarian marijuana movement pushing what is in its simplest and most useful form a very libertarian idea: don't legally punish people solely for the substances they choose to consume for their own pleasure. Leave your desire to make money at others' expense or manage their lives for your pleasure out of it.

Alas, too many people involved in it, as this Riffle profile makes clear, insist "marijuana legalization" has to be about more than that. Riffle, looking askance at the business interests, just wants to lard what should be at best a decriminalization movement with his own concerns, which will themselves risk turning off some activists and voters and, yes, business interests, who the movement still needs to get on his side.

Some excerpts on the extraneous concerns Riffle wants driven from the marijuana legalization movement, and alas the ones he wants added to it:

As Riffle noted in an email to colleagues in early November, the "industry is taking over the legalization movement and I'm not interested in the industry." That same day, MPP announced a new political campaign funded by marijuana industry revenues.

…."I felt for the last few months the industry was kind of dominating the legalization movement's work in general, and MPP's specifically."

Better, apparently, in Riffle's mind that progressivoid "public health" notions dominate it instead:

…..he's concerned that the substance at the center of this particular movement is an intoxicating drug. While that drug might not be as dangerous as say, alcohol or tobacco, there might be societal benefits to limiting access to the product, restricting potency and disincentivizing heavy use – approaches that are likely to clash with for-profit interests. "They might lobby for preferential tax treatment that drives down prices, they might lobby for less regulation," says Riffle. "The industry's goal is to make money, but from a public health perspective, we might have other goals that are at odds with the industry's goal of making money."

The writer, Joel Warner, kind of ignores the implications of Riffle's statements, when he writes:

But that doesn't mean that all of the movement's core values will translate easily as its driving principles shift from civil liberties to business bottom lines. Will there be continued interest in helping nonviolent marijuana offenders erase harsh drug-war convictions from their records? In allowing struggling war veterans and desperately sick kids to obtain not just legal but affordable access to the medical marijuana? In protecting the interests of the small marijuana farmers in places like California's Emerald Triangle whose decades of legally perilous efforts helped launch the marijuana movement in the first place? In ensuring that those who don't necessarily need unfettered access to cannabis – like youth and problem users – are protected from its adverse effects?

Very little of those concerns have to do with the "civil liberties" that Warner blithely assumes is all the non-big-business types care about. Yes, on getting convictions expunged from records, and legalization of any sort will likely help with the possibility of making that happen down the line, even if it isn't bundled with legalization up front.

But "affordable" pot for certain classes, small-business protectionism, and actually continuing some form of effective prohibition for the people the "public health" folk still want to keep prohibited—where is the "civil liberties" in any of that?

"Legalization is inevitable," says Riffle. "But [people] haven't put time into forming an alternative to the corporate model. That is something I'd like to work on… We don't really know what the best policies are, and anyone who says they do is blowing smoke."

Let me suggest a policy for the marijuana movement to advocate strongly: eliminate all criminal penalties for the growing, owning, using, or selling of marijuana. It's a radical idea, but I think maybe America's marijuana "civil liberties" movement can some day be turned around to seeing it's a good idea.

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  1. Personally, my top priority is to stop wasting my tax money chasing, jailing, or killing people involved in the marijuana business. Once that’s accomplished, I’ll worry about whether the market in marijuana is adequately free for entrants.

    1. It’s a devil’s bargain. Here in WA, we treated half ass legalization for allowing the tendrils of government to control marijuana. This is not better. Keep in mind, we already had reasonable medical MJ laws and people were largely left alone. Now, there are all kinds of rules regarding edibles, oils, etc. that are easy to violate, and the cops are on regular fishing expeditions for DUI-C. Plus, government and their cronies ar ? sucking up all the money that used to be part of the black market(Small local business for the most part).

      Not an improvement at all.

      1. If the change in the law hasn’t improved things re: taxes and jail, then it doesn’t meet my criteria. 🙂

        If it has, then devil’s bargain or no I call it a win.

      2. It is obviously an improvement because people are not going to jail and organized crime is not making as much money as violently.

        1. Look at this data table

          ….and tell me what significant difference you see in 2001 vs 2014 arrests.

          1. The arrest are the same because it’s still illegal in most states. Those numbers won’t change until two things happen, 1 feds get out of marijuana and 2. More states bring on legal cannabis.

            1. You’re sort of missing the point

              even if only a few states have outright “legalized” weed… you’d think that there would be some at least decreasing emphasis on busting people for weed as a ‘crime’ in the current environment

              instead, arrests for mere *possession* of marijuana remains the MOST enforced drug law in america, holding the largest share (40%) of all drug ‘crimes’, and hasn’t changed a bit in ~15 years.

              People seem to be under the impression that legalization in a few states is a sign of change. If you’re on the receiving end of the Drug War – nothing has changed. I honestly wish these articles about drug-laws would point out how little attention is paid to the victims of the laws instead of celebrating the fact that white people in a few states don’t have to buy their weed from sketchy people anymore.

              1. you’d think that there would be some at least decreasing emphasis on busting people for weed as a ‘crime’ in the current environment

                Well, I wouldn’t think that. Why do you?

                The American people are warming to the idea of legal marijuana. The political class and law enforcement bureaucracy is not. The war on drugs has been an endless font of wealth for them. I don’t expect them to stop targeting drugs until they are forcibly stopped.

      3. @ Suicidy,,,,,I believe that the biggest problem with the way we did it here in WA. state was not to include the right to grow your own. Allow me the right to grow what I want without any government intervention and the asshats in Olympia can play their games.

    2. And when you try to get momentum for actual legalization, people will say “We gave you crazy libertarians what you wanted! It’s legal! Stop bothering us, you anarchists!”

      This fake legalization bullshit is, as Suicidy says, a devil’s bargain.

  2. Treat marijuana like tomatoes. The D.C. “model” of legalization seems like the best one passed so far.

    1. I’d like to try a marijuana tomato

      1. Probably better than tomacco.

        1. I had a real problem with the livestock last harvest season.

        2. It tastes like grandma!

      2. Just to see if it would work. I spliced a flowering tomatoe branch and a flowering MJ branch onto a hops plant. I had read some where that it was possible to do it. It took a couple of weeks and intensive care, but the tomatoe branch did actually bloom and make small tomatoe’s. Much smaller then the donor tomatoe plant produced.

        The MJ branch never recovered.. And ended up compleatly wilting the spliced hop’s branch

  3. We have a natural right to control our own body. The government does not own our body – we do.
    To think otherwise is un American and totalitarian

    In today’s netflix DVD envelope was an ad for ClubW, they will deliver wine to your door along with a movie.
    I’m not a wine drinker except if a pretty lady wants some I will oblige – but wouldn’t it be great for neflex to have a ClubD for drugs? I’d like to order some weed, hash, MDA, maybe some magic mushrooms or LSD.

    1. We must protect our nation’s precious bodily fluids.

      1. Wouldn’t the weed scratch up the DVDs? Oh, wait, separate delivery envelopes, never mind.

      2. I prefer to withhold my essence.

    2. They should include free LSD with all Ken Russell movies.

      1. Except Tommy. That would be a really bad trip.

        1. It was without the acid.

    3. The government does not own our body – we do.

      Where is that you’re living? I will move there immediately upon you informing me.

      You see, I’m being sarcastic, because the place I asked about does not exist on the planet named earth. Your fellow humans, most of whom are graze herd animal level intellects, don’t even know what that means, let alone having the will to do something about it.

      Get back with me when that changes.

  4. Decriminalization. This “legalization” shit means the gummint has to be involved.

    Though I am cautiously optimistic that the regulatory crap will fall apart, since now there is a grey market. Sasha Grey market. Wait, what was I talking about?

    1. This “legalization” shit means the gummint has to be involved.

      Why?

      1. I don’t mean that it *has* to be. I just think that “legalization” is code for regulation.

        1. It’s not. Decrim is however.

  5. OT: Congress to Consider Easing Passage into U.S. for Immigrants

    http://freebeacon.com/national…..mmigrants/

    The bill… would express Congress’ sense that “the United States must not bar individuals from entering into the United States based on their religion, as such action would be contrary to the fundamental principles on which this Nation was founded.”

    “This amendment will establish the progressive goal of creating a right to global migration, their solution to global income inequality,” the source said. “This is not simply a slippery slope. This is ripping open Pandora’s box. If you can establish that we have no right to consider religious beliefs, then you could help establish we have no right to consider a candidate’s age, skill, income, or country of origin.”

    1. Well that’s going nowhere.

    2. “…their solution to global income inequality,”

      To make everyone except them poor.

    3. what has that got to do with the issue ?

  6. “But that doesn’t mean that all of the movement’s core values will translate easily as its driving principles shift from civil liberties to business bottom lines. Will there be continued interest in helping nonviolent marijuana offenders erase harsh drug-war convictions from their records?”

    I presume that for-profit MJ businesses wouldn’t mind clearing the records of potential customers. Tends to built goodwill by helping people whose only crime was buying the very product you sell.

    “In allowing struggling war veterans and desperately sick kids to obtain not just legal but affordable access to the medical marijuana?”

    Why would for-profit businesses try to deny sick people access to their product? Making medicine difficult to get is the job of the FDA and DEA.

    “In protecting the interests of the small marijuana farmers in places like California’s Emerald Triangle[etc].”

    Do you mean shutting down competing farms?

    “In ensuring that those who don’t necessarily need unfettered access to cannabis ? like youth and problem users ? are protected from its adverse effects?”

    That’s a real issue – although I don’t think shackling and caging *some* people is the way to discourage *other* people from abusing alcohol or marijana.

    1. “In ensuring that those who don’t necessarily need unfettered access to cannabis ? like youth and problem users ? are protected from its adverse effects?”

      They have unfettered access now. Every high school and probably middle school kid can get pot easily now. I think it will be more difficult though probably not real difficult for youth to buy in a legal market than a black market just as with booze. Problem users will be able to openly seek help without LE concerns which is an improvement also. I don’t think these are reasons not to legalize pot

  7. I actually RTFA, at least as far as this, hoping to get a glimpse of somehow who truly wanted to simply stop making it illegal.

    While Riffle concedes that business has long mixed with politics in this country, he’s concerned that the substance at the center of this particular movement is an intoxicating drug. While that drug might not be as dangerous as say, alcohol or tobacco, there might be societal benefits to limiting access to the product, restricting potency and disincentivizing heavy use ? approaches that are likely to clash with for-profit interests. “They might lobby for preferential tax treatment that drives down prices, they might lobby for less regulation,” says Riffle. “The industry’s goal is to make money, but from a public health perspective, we might have other goals that are at odds with the industry’s goal of making money.”

    Just another nanny statist, who knows better than everybody else what is good for everybody else.

    1. “I actually RTFA”

      I get kind of bogged down when I do that. The headline basically give the big picture.

      /sarc

    2. “Just another nanny statist, who knows better than everybody else what is good for everybody else.”
      Yeah, I hope the door didn’t hit him in the ass on the way out, but the folks remaining don’t seem any better.
      Like Brian says, there’s no one right now simply saying ‘leave me alone!’

    3. Making alliances with progressives only gets you so far, eventually their fear and loathing of the private individual benefiting or acting in a way they do not approve of comes through.

  8. It is easier to make a Funyuns joke than to actually care.

  9. What about the really radical idea that you own your own body and should be free to choose what you put into it? It it utterly absurd for a people to kid themselves that they are in any sense free if they do not have self ownership.

  10. No more taxed or regulated than tomatoes.

    1. A minority student in physics class?

      You mean a non-Asian?

    2. Doesn’t the Chief Justice know gravity affects women and minorities the hardest?

      1. From Wikipedia: “[Philosopher Sandra] Harding referred to Newton’s Principia Mathematica as a “rape manual” in her 1986 book “The Science Question in Feminism”, a characterization that she later said she regretted.”

        And did you know that the Nubians invented the particle accelerator?

        1. Source: Why are you pestering me about my sources, you racist? Did your Grand Wizard put you up to it?

        2. What’s a Nubian?

          1. One of these guys.

            I hope your appreciate my considerable research finding the answer for you.

              1. Sorry, maybe I’m not *racist* like you.

                1. Bitch, you almost made me laugh.

          2. Ah, nice ship, Nubian. We have lots of that.

            But Republic credits are no good out here.

    3. I love the response, “Einstein was a persecuted minority!!” He was also one of the most brilliant minds the world has ever known; he wouldn’t need affirmative action. As evidenced by the fact that he was not a beneficiary of affirmative action.

    4. Not long ago the race issue was legitimate.

      Now it is just horseshit and incoherence.

  11. “How Iraqi Kurdistan is reversing the trend of declining Zoroastrian populations

    “With Kurdish identity and culture under threat from ISIS, the core principles of Zoroastrianism are finding favour with disillusioned youth in the region.

    “…With the Kurdish identity and culture under threat from ISIS, the perceived “Kurdishness” of Zoroastrianism adds to its appeal. “All Kurds are nationalists and we take pride in our heritage, so of course the Kurdish nature of the religion influenced my decision to convert,” said Shwan Rahman, a recent convert to Zoroastrianism….

    “”In my opinion, nothing ISIL have done up until now is in conflict with the principles of Islam,” said Rahman. “This has definitely taken a lot of people away from Islam, especially amongst the younger generations.””

    1. Zorro is a pretty cool cat but a religous figure?

  12. Belief of the mind is a state. It is a state that wobbles on genetics and collective familial scarcity. The narrowing of fears into the conduits of running into the suns. Belief is so goddamn powerful. No fucking multiplied laser can ever come close to the human obsession with upsweep and throughsweep belong. That river on that continent that almost killed you that your body jammed on… you rode how the singular gripping roiling human mind sweeps into the wide peaceful awning lake of nuclear holocaust or roadside bombs or fucking newly born teenagers sweeping through Mumbai killing and cutting.

    The adherent is always living and beating down the dark doors like a tsunami of horror, man. Our human experience is fucked. Has always been fucked. Even back when the goddamn Romans were pulling lives in front of crowds to have their faces chomped off by old lions and shit. And even farther back to the Maccabees and even so farther back to Aztec pyramid rites involving the fountains of blood and killings to reach the motherfucking gods, man.

    Fucking humans keep dragging their demons into the now and I’m fucking goddamn sick of this shit.

    1. Enjoy your midweek night off. I thought I was headed in that direction, but no. Back to work.

  13. Carrie Fisher: ‘I was quite the space slut’

    “”And we stayed up really late and got to the set about two hours later. And we weren’t hung over, we were still in our cups. And if you watch the movie you can see that: Harrison and I are smiling as we arrived in Cloud City. Doesn’t that sound like a euphemism?””

  14. The screams of the dying centuries haunt me man. I am a shadowy old figure lurking among the dead. I often can’t sleep because my dreams of old earth bleed onto my pillow and I wake up suffocating on the ghosts of how fucking awful this shit is.

    1. Buck up up man, the Trumpapocalypse won’t be that bad.

  15. I like to put my hard cock on dank weed and I cum a little on the weed i put into the butthole of god.

    1. this may be the best comment you have ever made.

  16. What would you like your fairy godmother to give you?

    1. Every fucking story Notgkc wrote when he wasn’t worried about his attic angels ratting on his dimensions.

  17. http://imgur.com/gallery/MDO99

    Poll from MSNBC “Has Trump gone to far with his plan to ban Muslims”

    24% Yes 76% No

    The breakdown is pretty interesting.

    White
    69% No 31% Yes
    Hispanic
    87% No 13% Yes
    Black
    96% No 4% Yes

    1. Wow. I see a huge discontinuity when the responses are broken by age, which suggests the poll is incomplete/crap. But still, wow.

      1. It’s an online poll, and if those were accurate we’d be in year 7 of a Ron Paul presidency.

        1. Or a RuPaul presidency, depending on the turnout of the crucial tl/dr demographic.

      2. That said, it wouldn’t surprise me to see an accurate poll breakdown that showed that younger voters are more concerned about terrorism than older voters. After all, 18 year olds don’t really remember a pre-9/11 world, but their grandparents remember all sorts of random terrorist attacks back in the 70’s and 80’s, and that didn’t exactly lead to the end of the world then, probably won’t happen now.

        1. “That said, it wouldn’t surprise me to see an accurate poll breakdown that showed that younger voters are more concerned about terrorism than older voters.”

          -I know its a horse shit poll but if you would have asked me to put money on which group of voters would be more concerned with terrorism, I would have put $100 on the older voters.

          1. While I’m not a betting man, but if I had to bet, seniors have a certain amount of been there, seen that attitude. The San Bernardino killers apparently had some sort of sophisticated ties to a terrorist network, and it’s the deadliest terror attack on U.S. soil since 9/11.

            Charles Whitman was certifiably crazy, and still managed to kill more people than the planned out terrorist assault years in the making. So let’s give it some perspective.

            1. I don’t think seniors are apathetic at all when it comes to Islamic attacks because they see it as an outside force attacking the nation. Charles Whitman is not on the same level. Lone nut job not orchestrated attack by multiple people.

              1. Like I said, some terrorist attack that according to the FBI, ISIS spent thousands of dollars planning a huge attack, and some lone nutjob beat them. Let me know ISIS can do more damage than some lone nutjob.

                1. Chris Dorner caused more genuine terror, disruption and mayhem than Manface and her hubby, and it went on for days.

                  But that was just workplace violence.

      3. Its definitely skewed. The numbers surprised me because it was an MSNBC poll. I think Trump has a lot more support with Hispanic American voters than people realize. Also, I think people are going to be blown away at the amount of support he will garner with Black Americans. I may be wrong. It looks like he just widened his lead nationally after the Muslim immigration comments.

        http://www.forbes.com/sites/jo…..d=19452155

  18. Winona Ryder will steal…your heart.

  19. Shannen Doherty is fighting breast cancer.

    1. What is this, “Updates on the Cast of ‘Heathers’ Day”?

      1. See below

        1. Well if they are showing skin….

    2. 🙁

      “Why are you pulling my dick?”

    3. You can beat this Shannen, you’re a fighter.

  20. If that shit is super sticky kicky you dab that crap on your subcutaneous and play spider man with that shit. Like sploof sticky weed.. just shot my cock head… baby, roll over let me shoot some sticky licky onto your star turtle… I fucking would stick christmas bud right on her little pooper and her asshole quivers and jello meatchunks under the lasers get syrupy because I also slipped some bud under the eyehole of her pooper and she is now getting high… fucking walls are melting and crap and she looks back and says, I need to suck your Jesus Jalapeno and I pull my Jesus Jalapeno out and she bites my cock like a nasty hyena and punches my head and jams her right hand right into her asshole up to the wrist and I fall over under the shadows of this blistering orgasmic jasmine garden and she pulls me down and punches my right in the goddamn gut and I can NOt fUCKING breathe and I fell over and I saw a tiny tattoo on her right rib and was a fucking B. Russ verse and my elbow spurted cum tornadoes and my cock spurted 14 new Nasa projects. and The night just got started she said… and I found out that this was the case.

    1. This is why we can have legal things…

      1. can*t

        sorry, i’m drunk.

  21. Someone pointed out about 5 years ago… that the likely inevitable outcome of weed “legalization” is a less-free environment

    when its ‘illegal’ there’s only really one set of crimes involved = possessing it, selling it

    when its “legal”, there will be dozens of new crimes because there will be 1000 new regulations

    when and where you can/can’t consume it, who can sell it to whom, transporting it, taxing it, how the cash from its sale is banked, and on and on and on and on.

    Alcohol is “legal”, and it was still the main reason i spent many a teenage night running away from police.

    1. “… [x] PPM within a thousand yards of a daycare center, school or commercially operated ballpit…”

    2. “when its ‘illegal’ there’s only really one set of crimes involved = possessing it, selling it
      when its “legal”, there will be dozens of new crimes because there will be 1000 new regulations”

      Similarly, the cost of weed was market-driven by cost of production and the risk/friction cost of its illegal status, and those costs were driven down by competition.
      Now, where legal, the competition remains largely illegal, the costs are production plus the several (and likely cumulative) taxes, and the frictional costs of complying with the regulations.
      I only favor legalization to get those black and brown kids out of jail; if they got the same ‘rehab’ treatment as whites, I’d vote against it in a minute.

      1. Yeah, i prefer “Decriminalization”.

        re: prices… you make a good point.

        in NYC, an 1/8th (3.5 grams) of quality, to-your-door delivery-weed has been $50 for 20 years. and the quality has generally improved over time.

        i’ve always thought it was amazing how consistent it was over all that time…whereas cigarettes? are probably 300% higher.

        1. I’m not a big weed person but yeah it’s way more ‘potent’ than I remember from 20 years ago.

          1. I used to get some one hit killer sense 35 years ago. As good as any shit they’re growing today. Knock your dick in the dirt.

            1. Isn’t it supposed to make your dick stand up?

        2. “i’ve always thought it was amazing how consistent it was over all that time…whereas cigarettes? are probably 300% higher.”
          I don’t smoke anything any longer, but your point re: tobacco is telling. There has been absolutely zero increase in production, transportation, processing or distribution costs; the increase is 100% gov’t money grabbing.
          And anyone who presumes dope will be exempt should probably cut their consumption to be on the safe side.
          ‘Legalization’ seems to have provided no net gain in tax costs, certainly none in personal freedom. I’ll wait to see the stats on drug arrests, and I’ll be interested to see the racial distribution of them; still black and brown kids?
          Finally, has any state legalizing dope let ANYONE out of the slammer? Or are they just grandfathered into their sentence?

          1. An occasional user could grow and preserve, in the privacy of their own home, sufficient marijuana to last them years… in a single months-long grow.

            It is difficult to understand how they can restrict such a robust and easy to grow plant in a decriminalized/”legalized” environment.

  22. The universe is not fucking irrelevant. It is just a fucking wall of material we can’t FUCKING cum on. Well, we can cum on the universe… agile, We CANNOT COMPUTE ON IT.

    doesn’t work. Compute on it? I dont jesus fucking blood bobbles understand how a cock comps that shit out there. man , what is cimp? or comp?
    well it seems i have fallen prey to my stamps and buds… and the tapping in the back of my head is about to get kicked with my leg.

    1. There will be self-spanking in the unwatchable angles of the space craft. But we expect our astronauts to be conscientious enough to wipe the site of their sins clean.

  23. Gillian Anderson is doing ads for PETA.

    1. Oh PETA, you so edgy.

      *Belch*

      Mm, hamburger.

      1. She got her head blown off last time she did an ad with PETA. She thought it’d work out better this time around.

        1. Skimmed it. Gee, that’s fucking stupid.

        2. Not PETA, Climate somesuch.

          1. I didn’t see Gillian but the whole thing was so stupid I couldn’t be bothered to look harder.

            1. She’s at the end, arguing that her voice over work was enough to appease the climate fanatics. Nope, BOOM.

              1. OK I watched it all and the only message I got was that the “do something” folks are totalitarian assholes. At least they’re being honest.

                1. Yup. And the lovely Gillian Anderson should have learned that lesson by now. Alas.

      1. Those comments… just wow.

        Not my peoples

    2. 1. A commercial parodying the very last moment of the very little watched Hannibal? Relatable!

      2. Eddie Izzard’s roasted leg in Hannibal looked goddamn delicious, so this is counterproductive.

      3. Anderson is a babe, dude!

  24. FUCK gardens of swell jerks. Even though all these shits are rolling into reflective tin foil of saxophones and mississippi blue bulbs and this massive burrito of mashed hell is about to go nuclear…. on the waves the old waters and noises, man….
    so we roll….. and hang like superbitches with lace wings and rocket toes…….

    fucking rainbows fall super fast on tons of innocent lovers….
    fucking rainbows are like drugs from the clouds, man.

  25. You have been watching SIGONN – the Shit, I’m Getting Old News Network

    Approaching 30 years together, Salt-N-Pepa still going strong

    1. notgkc the space ninja that killed the sun and escaped behind the closet of the milk.

    2. Who cares? Spinderella was the hot one.

      1. Truth.

  26. Lights are blips and blaps man
    I love my reason warrior bloods
    but light blips trips and scritch
    and the alleys of light can go to the sun right?
    alley of light and climax mixed will make
    these smunchy round but sexy specular
    unifromed running angry tablets dressed
    in bloody keyboards under the asshole sun
    I want to throw my lawnmower birds into.

  27. Victoria Jackson has cancer.

    “Cancer is a horrible word. But, let me tell you, as a Jesus follower, this has strangely been a blessing to my family and made us much closer to each other and to God.

    “God’s Word encourages me no matter what the outcome;

    “Romans 8:28, “All things work together for good to them?”, James 1:2, “Count it all joy when you fall into various trials?”, Isaiah 61:3, “?beauty for ashes,” John 11:4, “? Jesus said, “This sickness?is for God’s glory so that God’s Son may be glorified through it,” Luke 22:42 “?not my will, but yours be done,” 2 Cor 4:16-17 “This is the reason we never lose heart. The outward man does indeed suffer wear and tear, but every day the inward man receives fresh strength..,” 1 Pet 1:6-7 “This means tremendous joy to you, even though at present you may be temporarily harassed by all kinds of trials. This is no accident?it happens to prove your faith, which is infinitely more valuable than gold, and gold, as you know, even though it is ultimately perishable, must be purified by fire,” John 9:2-3 “His disciples asked him, “Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?” “Neither this man nor his parents sinned,” said Jesus, “but this happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life.””

    1. OK one Bible quote too many but still 🙁

      You’re bringing me down tonight

    2. Are you fucking out of your mind, notgkc?
      Praise Jesus, for sure… I guess. But the lovely waves your smashing post laps like a violent raptide on my thing, babe.
      Cancer? Fuck cancer. I fucking hate cancer. BUT cancer has NOTHING to do with gods and angels and if I die or you die by cancer… and wish to pass under the angels of wings I offer a million angels for you dear…..

      I will never ever fucking fuck with cancer and its tripping victims. I truly believe that any society that doesn’t alter the death of their dying should be treated like fucking imbecile puke.

  28. the little molecules of the lawn
    of green I lay on and I roll on the lawn of the
    little molecules and i rip my cloths off
    under the goddam universe and my cock flops like a little boat
    of cock head and i roll on the rocks of aces and wait for the
    deep oceans babes to fuck their gleaming pussies, bitch
    and they rise like sparglitter nuclear bombs bursting my eyeballs out from the head of my cock
    and yet these sparglitter mermhotvolacs with sweet nipples and specular highlife clits
    pown agile and agile likes and fucks and fondles millions of space mermaid angels and agile
    can do this because agile fucks and fondles space mermaid angels l
    all the fFUCKING TIME YOU GODDAMN MOTHEFUCK…
    I LOVE SPACE MERMAID ANGELS AND FUCK THEM LIKE SWEET
    ANGELIX DLOWERS


  29. Cindy Crawford is “embracing” turning 50

    “Meanwhile, the 49-year-old beauty previously praised her children – Kaia, 14 and Presley, 16 – for making her feel at ease with ageing.”

  30. fucking space ass cock.

  31. At least Toni Braxton is still young…no, wait, that’s the actress playing her in the new Lifetime movie about her life.

  32. I think Dan Riffle is just figuring out his collectivist values are slightly inconsistent with individual liberty. He probably came to the legalization movement because he felt it was best for the state, not because he actually valued a person’s choices. Now that it turns out that people might pursue their own goals in life (using profit as a signal) rather than being motivated by “public health” he is changing his mind. He probably hadn’t considered that people would have values other than this own.

    In order to believe in “public health” you must personify/deify the state. That state gets sick and it feels pain. In Dan’s world, the purpose of individuals is to glorify the state. If people use drugs and hurt production statistics, or increase healthcare costs, then the state gets sick. If people are going to use their new freedoms to hurt the state, then we may need to sacrifice a few people to make it well and happy again.

  33. The woman from the cover of that Cars album would have been 57 this year.

    OK, that’s enough for today.

    The state of man does change and vary,
    Now sound, now sick, now blyth, now sary,
    Now dansand mirry, now like to die:?
    Timor Mortis conturbat me….

    Unto the Death gois all Estatis,
    Princis, Prelatis, and Potestatis,
    Baith rich and poor of all degree:?
    Timor Mortis conturbat me.

    1. That’s sad. I always liked this cover.

      http://cps-static.rovicorp.com…..llrovi.com

  34. he’s concerned that the substance at the center of this particular movement is an intoxicating drug.

    Money — take a hit!

  35. I eagerly await the advent of the first GMO cannabis plant, so that I can watch the hippies’ heads explode.

  36. You could eliminate all criminal & civil penalties, but without actually legalizing marijuana, the police could still confiscate it. Come to think of it, forfeiture of related property would still apply too. So you have to do more than just reduce penalties to 0.

    1. That forfeiture and deportation off Satanic furriners entanglement is going to be difficult to get rid of.

  37. Doesn’t America Deserve a Marijuana Rights Movement That Just Wants to Eliminate Legal Penalties Surrounding Marijuana?

    Deserve’s got nothin’ to do with it.

    1. Yeah, I read the headline and that is what popped in my head.

      “Doesn’t America deserve…”

      No.

  38. The final paragraph nails it.

  39. The whole point of prohibition is to up the price by 400% and provide blackmail revenue and fees for law school leeches. Now Reason is shocked that profiteers are attracted by the smell of a mixed economy struggling to maintain a stranglehold on boodle?

  40. Nice Stossel article

    http://humanevents.com/2015/12…..-security/

  41. Ohio’s other monopoly initiative was gambling which did go through. Unfortunately for these guys they weren’t one of the politically connected.

    http://nbc4i.com/2015/12/09/au…..l-payouts/

  42. Let me suggest a policy for the marijuana movement to advocate strongly: eliminate all criminal penalties for the growing, owning, using, or selling of marijuana. It’s a radical idea, but I think maybe America’s marijuana “civil liberties” movement can some day be turned around to seeing it’s a good idea.

    How will anyone know what to do? Who will give permission? Who will give orders? That’s not freedom, that’s chaos!

    1. That’s not freedom, that’s chaos!

      SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE!

      *Revs chainaxe and charges sarc*

      1. THE EMPEROR PROTECTS!

        (Loads up on combat drugs and activates lightning-claw equipped terminator armor because… still stuck in Rogue Trader era)

      2. *Pulls his .38*

  43. Notorious UGCC|12.9.15 @ 9:40PM|#

    From Wikipedia: “[Philosopher Sandra] Harding referred to Newton’s Principia Mathematica as a “rape manual” in her 1986 book “The Science Question in Feminism”, a characterization that she later said she regretted.”

    iow, that mis-characterization raped her.

  44. This has been my position from day one,,,,,way back in 1965.
    The idea of any government, especially one in a so called “Free” Society declaring a plant “illegal” is absurd,the idea that any citizen in a “Free” country need ask permission from the government to use it is ridiculous, the idea of otherwise peaceful citizens being thrown in cages for enjoying it is obscene.

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