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For a website called Reason you sure do make a lot of appeals to emotion. Why not just give the people what they want? Hysterical sideboob in the form of lobster girl!
Seconded.
How many families need to be broken up do to those borders!?
Drink!
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Whew, I thought I was going to have to cancel my subscription.
She looks an awful lot like someone I know.
Oh, those lobsters all look alike.
That lobster girl picture is unbelievably tasteless and offensive. You know she's going to eat The poor thing, right? And yet you all salivate over this sick tableau every time it's posted. Typical carnivores.
Actually I think Reason could use a little more hysteria.
/withholds check.
If only as a palette cleanser for the past year of "libertarian moment" optimism. I'll never get the taste of aspartame mixed with bitter tears out of my mouth.
Spock? That's straight up pandering.
That's a grab from "The Naked Time" episode. BOOM. You just got nerded.
Indeed I did.
I remember a q&a session with Penn where he slammed an atheist who wanted to convert the religious.
That's not Penn in that interview. That guy weighs like a hundred pounds more than Penn.
If Penn identifies as a thin man, he's a thin man.
How cute, Gillespie thinks his post on Cruz this afternoon was not an hysterical reaction.
Something, something...newsletter.
They also seem to think that all the posts on Trumpity Trump aren't hysterical, dishonest pant shitting fits.
Nick went back and UPDATED the article and
STILL missed Cruz's point.
Spot on. But I heard it was the Jacket's fault.
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Yeah, I was gonna say, "unless the topic is related to police", in which case "Reason is your place for half-baked hit pieces that we'd all mock senseless if on another topic and from, say, The Nation - and intolerably smug comments".
I've objection to calling Caitlyn Jenner "Caitlyn". People can change their names to whatever they want.
I do draw the line at referring to men as women or vice-versa, though. Words have meanings.
Which is exactly why Caitlyn Jenner wants to be referred to as a woman.
Did you fail biology? 🙂
Possibly. Fortunately I sailed through Philosophy, where we learned that biology isn't destiny.
It is an objective fact that biology is almost always "destiny". There are a handful of situations where it isn't, and the answer to the question "am I a woman" isn't one of them.
Sure, but Jenner's desires are just her* problem, not a mandate on anyone else.
(* I figure it's polite to use the desired pronoun.
But that's not the same as saying that Jenner is now "a woman", as a member of the category.
One can hold that "her" is the correct, polite pronoun to use for people who identify as "female" without, necessarily holding that that identification - combined with or in isolation from surgical and hormonal or other treatments - makes them women.
The two ain't the same, and the idea that they are is faulty.
I have no inherent essentialist fear of "calling MEN!!! women!!!!", nor a belief that even physical gender is the same as "XX vs XY" [because we have XXY, for one...].
But I likewise have no reason to just accept "a woman is anyone who wants to be called a woman".
This is a complicated issue with lots of emotional involvement and complexity all around, and I'm sick of being told - by people on both sides - that "it's OBVIOUSLY the way I want and NOBODY who isn't evil can question that!")
I'm slightly confused as to your argument, Sig. While you argue against a biological essentialism, pointing to the existence of XXY, etc., you also state that you don't necessarily accept that "a woman is anyone who wants to be called a woman". So, in your opinion, what makes a woman a woman? As you state, chromosomes aren't always the best determiner, and I would agree. If you showed the average Joe a picture of someone with Turner's Syndrome , I bet you would be hard pressed to find someone who wouldn't refer to them as female, despite the fact that they have only 1 X chromosome. However, you also seem to not accept the argument that gender is performative, that is gender is how one acts. So, perhaps you are saying that like color, that masculinity and femininity are qualia? If so, I find that a fascinating stance. Again, while we might define "blue" as a spectrum of light from 450 to 495 nanometres, proponents of qualia* would argue that definition says nothing about what "blueness" is. If masculinity and femininity are qualia, then we can imagine a version of Locke's inverted spectrum thought experiment. What if you woke up one day and the rest of the world had decided feminine traits were masculine and vice versa? Would the whole world be wrong? Would it matter?
*I am a qualia agnostic.
This is an excellent treatise on the subject. Seriously.
I'm saving my popcorn for what the Ultimate Arbiter says on the matter down the road.
Thanks, HM. That's an interesting topic I'll have to do some more looking into. I've been on an archetype/forms kick lately, this seems somewhat related and might tie together with some of the topics from Personal Knowledge.
You're welcome, Sparky. For my part, I'm not fully convinced that masculinity and femininity are qualia, myself. But, as a theory, it has explanatory power in areas that the performative and biological essentialist definitions of gender do not. *shrugs* Who knows?
One way I've been trying to think about things lately is "what do other animals think". For example, do cats have gods? Can cows tell time? And now, how do dogs tell male from female?
Humans are just animals with bigger brains. I know this makes us believe we can know things about the universe that other animals can't, I think other animals can determine things that humans can't. I think human children are also good determinants of how humans really think of things. At what point do children know the difference between male and female?
From what I remember about 1st language acquisition, babies can distinguish between male and female voices starting around 7 months.
I'm of the opinion that with the exception of higher primates, how animals conceptualize the world would be mostly incomprehensible to us. Without experience of the sophisticated sense of smell a dog has, I don't think we would ever truly understand the experience of how a bitch smells.
Seven months seems like a reliable enough indicator that gender is not something that is solely enforced by societal standards.
"I'm of the opinion that with the exception of higher primates, how animals conceptualize the world would be mostly incomprehensible to us.""
This is weird. Last night i was having trouble sleeping and an odd thought popped into my head...
...that we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars and developed amazingly sophisticated technology to peer into the farthest reaches of the universe and inside the atom...
...yet we've still never figured out how to "talk" - even on the most primitive sub-lingual level - to animals on Earth. (*yeah, i know they did some sign language w/ apes)
meaning - take things like Dogs or Dolphins, which are fairly responsible to humans and at least pay attention to our behaviors or sounds and can be 'trained'... most of what we've done is simply try to get THEM to conform to OUR signal-sending methods.
by contrast, we've done almost zilch over 1000 years to actually pay attention to shit *they* do and understand what they 'signal'... if not in any cross-species way, even amongst themselves. The only thing i can recall as being sort of 'significant' was someone determining that honey-bees do little dances to communicate information to the rest of the hive... but as for our own ability to decode WTF those things mean? Zippo
by contrast, we've done almost zilch over 1000 years to actually pay attention to shit *they* do and understand what they 'signal'... if not in any cross-species way, even amongst themselves. The only thing i can recall as being sort of 'significant' was someone determining that honey-bees do little dances to communicate information to the rest of the hive... but as for our own ability to decode WTF those things mean? Zippo
Amen to that. But it's safe to attribute that to the fact that humans are egocentric assholes. We wouldn't be where we are unless we were.
"We wouldn't be where we are unless we were."
IN YOUR FACE, HONEYBEES!! YOUR MOVES SUCK AND GMO IS GOING TO EXTINCT YOU ANYWAY PPTTTT
*" which are fairly responsible responsive to humans "
Well, I don't subscribe to the strong version of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis; however, in the case of cross species-communication, I do believe that as animals whose brains have been hyper-specialized towards as particular and unique form of communication, the centrality to language to our cognition acts as a "gilded cage" preventing, or at least inhibiting, the conceptualization necessary to understand the world from a pre-linguistic viewpoint.
"the centrality to language to our cognition acts as a "gilded cage" preventing, or at least inhibiting, the conceptualization necessary to understand the world from a pre-linguistic viewpoint."
Yeah, i have some vague memory of this sort of thing i might have picked up in some "philosophy of the mind" course. Or maybe it was some rambling that WS Burroughs did in some essay.
I get that there's some fundamental obstacles in 'translating' anything from a linguistic to a pre-linguistic paradigm... but my point was more about the general *disinterest* in the issue from a technological/research standpoint.
Maybe its just a practical thing, in that the apparent utility is completely lacking. ie. what could we possibly learn by 'talking to birds'? (or learning how they communicate amongst one another)
"talk to animals? What for? So we can explain how delicious they are?"
My 'couldn't sleep'-mental-musing was more thinking about all the people who spend time and resources 'searching for extra-terrestrial life', when they can't even explain their woes to a horse.
Well, it would answer several unanswered questions in linguistics, cognitive science, etc. concerning the origins of speech and language, the relationship between language and cognition and brain structure, whether Chomskian generative grammar holds true for non-human languages, etc.
Plus, this.
Well, SETI researchers argue that any civilization that can sail the stars would be able to communicate through the "natural" languages of mathematics and logic.
"any civilization that can sail the stars would be able to communicate through the "natural" languages of mathematics and logic.."
01010101010101010 1010101010101011010110111100010001 0011001111000110010101 010101010101"Hello, Sailor!"10101101010 01010 110101001000100100 010010010101
So a few weeks or months ago when I linked an article on language meditating cognition and you dismissed it out of hand, it's because the predominating theory is exactly opposite that model?
(You may already have clarified, but in the interest of studying pre-lingual modes of cognition I had gotten very drunk that night.)
Watsonian Behaviorists don't argue that language mediatescognition, but that language is cognition. That is, cognition is an illusion and doesn't really exist in any meaningful way.
Also, I wouldn't say that cognition mediating language is the predominate theory; John McWhorter certainly disagrees, but that many linguists accept a weak form of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis due to the evidence that the linguistic features of a language do seem to affect cognition in certain and very specific contexts (e.g., verbs and prepositions concerning motion).
Have you got a good primer to recommend on the subject? I find it fascinating but to date my one book on the mind was one of Dennett's years and years ago, which I've lost and mostly forgotten, and my one book on linguistics was *ahem* Lakoff.
Lakoff also turned me into an insufferable prog for a few years after high school.
Believe it or not, Khan Academy has some good videos on the subject. In addition to Dennett, I would read (or watch) Pinker. When Geoff Nathan is around, be sure to ask him as he's the Cognitive Ling. guy; I'm an Applied Ling specializing in the psychometrics of second language acquisition guy.
Khan Academy made me terrible at calc rather than merely terrible at algebra, so I can believe it. Thanks, I'll check those out.
"This is weird. Last night i was having trouble sleeping and an odd thought popped into my head...
...that we've spent hundreds of billions of dollars and developed amazingly sophisticated technology to peer into the farthest reaches of the universe and inside the atom..."
THIS IS WHY YOU CAN'T SLEEP!
The Night is When They Reprogram Me
The fact that there exist hard-to-classify cases does not mean that nothing can be definitely classified.
For example, it is an open question whether viruses qualify as "living" or "non-living". It is not an open question about a dog or a lump of granite. The former is living, the latter is not.
Some human beings are born with hormonal or chromosomal defects that give them a mix of male and female biological characteristics. Saying if they are "male" or "female" is difficult. It is not difficult to say whether a human being with normal XY chromosomes, functional male sex organs, and no primary or secondary female sexual characteristics -- e.g., Caitlyn Jenner -- is male or female The answer is "male".
Ok, but that is a different argument than what Sig made upthread. However, the question remains as to if masculinity and femininity are qualia. Human cultures were able to conceptualize "male" and "female" before they had achieved understanding of what chromosomes were or even before scientific thinking. So how did they define what makes males "male"? If the answer is "well, they knew a man when they saw one", then you're accepting that masculinity is a quale. That is an ineffable, non-material, gut-feeling understanding.
Deep Questions
Human cultures were able to conceptualize "male" and "female" before they had achieved understanding of what chromosomes were or even before scientific thinking.
You can leave out the word "thinking". Even lobsters can distinguish male from female despite having brains 0.0001% as large as ours.
We have concepts of "male" and "female" that predate genetics just like we have concepts of "hot", "cold", "solid", and "liquid" that predate thermodynamics or chemistry. They are material realities of the world we live in; we and our ancestors have been (barring birth defects) either "male" or "female" for hundreds of millions of years.
If humans were the *only* animals that noticed gender differences one could build a case that gender is a social construct or a matter of personal "identity". As it stands, though, people are essentially arguing that while gender is biologically determined for all the hundreds of millions of gendered species on Earth, in humanity it is determined by thought alone.
Not so fast. "Hot" and "cold" mean nothing objectively. They are relative to our perception of a particular stimulus. (And those perceptions are easily mixed-up. Haven't you touched a piece of ice so cold that it burned?) There is nothing real about "hotness" or "coldness"; if there were, then we could definitively define hot and cold. Is 300 degrees C hot? To us, sure, but to a tube worm , it's down right balmy. If hot and cold possessed material reality, then you wouldn't see such variation in perception of the experience. You can't say that "hot" is anything that is above a certain temperature, so, again, the best you can say is that "hotness" and "coldness" are qualia. A raw, gut-level feel. Don't believe me? Imagine defining "hotness" to something that has never experienced it...say an alien or an AI. What would you say?
Not so fast. "Hot" and "cold" mean nothing objectively.
If you mean that any given temperature is not "hot" or "cold" in any universal sense then sure, but that's not the context we're talking about. To a human being, "hot" and "cold" absolutely do have objective meanings in that temperatures above or below our own trigger our thermoreceptors differently. We have this sense because if we are exposed to temperatures outside a fairly narrow range, we die. We (like other animals) have a concept of gender because without it our whole species would die -- reproduction is obviously difficult if you can't even figure out who to have sex with!
Hey, you're the one who claimed they had "material reality".
You are correct that within a certain spectrum, hot and cold are part of the collective human experience; yet, you go to far to claim they have objective meaning. Ask a Floridian and a Minnesotan to each define the starting point for "cold". That doesn't mean hot and cold have practical meaning and that we should stop using these terms, but one should recognize that there can be regional and individual variation in the understanding of those terms. Again, I argue that qualia can be a useful "out" for this dilemma. Unlike gender, we can't have a performative (hot is what you do) or an essentialist (hot is 100 C) understanding; however, using Dennett's four properties of qualia, we can avoid sacrificing hotness upon the altar of relativity by noting as quale it is ineffable, intrinsic, incomparable, and experiential. So just as hotness is, in itself the experience of hot; masculinity is the experience of maleness. Therefore, to define a man, one need not point to chromosomes or genitals. This has the potential to solve both the XXY problem and the Jenner problem.
Hey, you're the one who claimed they had "material reality".
Yes... and they do. I don't quite get what you're misunderstanding, here. It is like I'm saying "the existence of animals is a material reality" and you're responding by saying "there's no life on Mars". Um, yes, but there's life here and that means life exists. Hot and cold are objective realities of human biology.
Ask a Floridian and a Minnesotan to each define the starting point for "cold".
Why? Two physically identical people will die at the same temperature extremes regardless of which state they live in.
So far as I can tell, you're trying to argue that opinions matter, and that the proof of this is... that opinions exist, and differ. But reality does not give the tiniest of fucks what our opinions are. The biological reality of your body is hot, cold, male, or female regardless of what you might wish it to be.
No, I am not. And it's also clear that you have no clue as to the difference between materialism and idealism. By stating that "hot" and "cold" have material reality, you are claiming that they are physical matter, which is absurd. You're the one trying to impose your opinion of what "hot" and "cold" are upon reality. If you can't understand that, how can you participate in a conversation about whether or not masculinity and femininity are qualia?
Irrelevant. The point in contention wasn't at what point would a person die but the psychoneurology of thermoception. Again, for all this talk about the objective reality of hot and cold, you have yet to provide an empirical definition of the phenomena. What is "hot"? What is "cold"? What is "red"? What is "blue"? Because, in this argument at least, I define "hot" as a quale, my answer is that "you'll know 'hot' when you feel it". That is, just as you can't adequately describe the experience of seeing color to a blind man; you can't really describe the experience of "hot" to someone who hasn't experienced it. Could you?
I guess ASHRAE should give up on Standard 55 "Thermal Enviromental Conditions for Human Occupancy" which is an attempt to empirically define what "hot" and "cold" are.
Convention, then? And an unwillingness to entertain another person's delusions simply because it becomes politically expedient? (I'm fairly agnostic and tend toward going along to get along.)
I realize these concerns don't fall under the "words have meanings" tangent this thread splintered off into, but I'm curious whether it has bearing. For example, I've noticed a repugnant habit among younger writers to use plural in lieu of gendered pronouns. I suppose I should applaud it as a cheeky sidestep to the sexist language debate, but it's also a hallmark of lazy writing and reads wrong. If it catches on and I'm left standing athwart progress in keeping with convention, am I necessarily a throwback for eschewing nicety and keeping to the old rules? I see a bit of that, albeit awash in a great deal of moralizing, in the transgender pronoun debate. I'll note that nobody outside its aspirants has yet embraced the innumerable "alternative" pronouns.
If it correctly refers to a universal, I don't think it reads wrong.
"Teachers instruct their students" is no big sin, imo.
Oh, not at all what I meant. Truly incorrect usage like "Sometimes a customer pisses me off even when they're being nice," and that sort of thing.
And I realize tweaking the noun to render it plural would correct the sentence just as well as assigning it an arbitrary gendered pronoun, but the habit I'm seeing more often is simply to use plural pronouns, either to avoid the clumsy "he or she" convention or to avoid gendering it altogether.
I think there should be a general rule which states, "Until a trans-sexual personally slaps you, its not a problem"
With what?
""With what?""
"Aye, there's the rub"
if its something other than a hand, then you're presumably in one of those "Crying Game" situations where you entirely deserve whatever you've gotten yourself into.
That's just an error in agreement in number that's all too common in everyday speech; I don't think it's primarily ideologically based.
Maybe, growing up the son of an English teacher and spending an awful lot of time reading and writing, it just grates on me. Or maybe both.
I hear you. I'm not much of a prescriptivist, but that's one of my bugaboos as well.
"Or maybe both."
Is there a rule up with which you won't put?
"We (like other animals) have a concept of gender because without it our whole species would die -- reproduction is obviously difficult if you can't even figure out who to have sex with!"
I don't think it's pedantry to mention that 'having sex' is not always about reproduction, even among animals other than humans.
I don't think it's pedantry to mention that 'having sex' is not always about reproduction, even among animals other than humans.
Bringing up a fact that is both universally known and irrelevant to the discussion is a perfect example of pedantry, actually. Also, you should learn that saying "X is difficult without Y" is in no way the same as saying "X is the only purpose of Y".
Thank YOU, Mr. pedant.
I was trying to point out, to those who might be thinking, that a bit of ambiguity in both the sex act and the choice of partners has not prevented reproduction.
Which is the reason I mentioned it was not pedantry; it is NOT irrelevant except to those who, well...
Oh, and Dan?
"Also, you should learn that saying "X is difficult without Y" is in no way the same as saying "X is the only purpose of Y"."
WOOOSH!
You should learn to read.
But reproduction is the primary purpose of sex from an evolutionary standpoint,, without which it would not exist, secondary functions notwithstanding.
They figured out makes were the ones with dicks.
I still believe that Jenner is further evidence that anything touched by a Kardashian becomes completely screwed up.
"What if you woke up one day and the rest of the world had decided feminine traits were masculine and vice versa?"
Through a vote? Damn tyranny of the majority.
Other than that, I guess Super-Man would switch to Super-It? Bat-Man would change his name to Bat-It and so on.
"His mama call him Bruce, I'll call him Bruce"
It's ok, Dan. Everything is going to be ok.
I feel sexually exploited. I gave no consent to that hug.
The way you clicked, you asked for it.
DON'T YOU CLICKSHAME ME, BITCH!
People can change their names to whatever they want.
Then you should have no problem calling Caitlyn Caitlyn.
I do draw the line at referring to men as women or vice-versa, though.
OK. That's got nothing to do with calling a person by their name, whatever it might be.
Then you should have no problem calling Caitlyn Caitlyn.
I'm sorry -- was there some part of my statement "I have no objection to calling Caitlyn Jenner 'Caitlyn'" that you found confusing or unclear? Because you seem to have come away thinking I *do* have an objection to calling him "Caitlyn".
Maybe it was the first sentence. You know, this one:
"I've objection to calling Caitlyn Jenner "Caitlyn". "
Typo; in context "no objection" is the only way it makes any sense.
Apparently, for Dan at least, it's better to get hysterical than it is to reread your comment and realize you may have made a mistake.
Maybe, one day, he'll call out for an EDIT BUTTON!!! like everyone else does.
I did indeed make a typo (how embarrassing.
As for the rest of your reply, it does not surprise me that a person who does not know what the words "male" and "female" mean is also unfamiliar with the definition of "hysterical". 🙂
I don't know what the words "male" and "female" mean? How did you come to that conclusion?
I don't know a whole lot 'bout Mrs. Jenner, DL Hughley doesn't feel like participating.
"Words have meanings".
Wow, dude. I never thought about it that way before.
This is the first time I've ever watched a Reason TV feature.
When the 9/11 attacks happened and the right and the left alike called for the suspension of all sorts of basic rights, we said no.
Because you can't spell treason without reason. In fact, it's pretty much most of the word.
That's it to a T!
Har har.
You know who else appealed to reason?
Us, for Lobster Girl pics?
Millions of people whom don't know any better?
The sheep to the two wolves?
How'd that work out?
depends. was it a white or black sheep?
Was the sheep armed?
Immanuel Kant?
We can't know this yet, she isn't old enough to have such thoughts.
Alan Greenspan's Objectivist Dominatrix?
Ayn Rand, you silly people.
Not every answer is "Hitler".
When does Reason start sending out monocles as the donation gifts? Mine is all scratched up.
Or orphans.
Why not both?
What I've learned from Reason recently is that Nicolas Cage's net worth will shock me and that an 87-year-old trainer's secret to losing weight has something to do with three fried eggs.
And you got to learn about that one weird trick!
Wait...the one that power companies hate, or the car manufacturers?
Also, I see there was a nice nuclear energy article today.
FYI: LFTR is a far off technology, but you can do the same thing with uranium-235 in molten liquid fluoride.. and much more easily.
Watch the first few minutes of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8Rg9V7JXic
Interesting, SJF
Molten salt, not liquid flouride. Just like sodium cooled fast reactors are not MSR's (and a bad idea in general).
And I've come around on burning U/Pu. Why require continual chemical reprocessing (and the proliferation risks) or significantly larger fuel volumes when you could just burn what we already have?
Sorry, meant fluoride as the salt.
And, if you remove the absolute requirement for breeding, the design of the core is greatly simplified. Simplicity is the only way this technology will see the light of day anytime soon.
Flouride is an element. Salt requires flouride and something else like Li.
Fluoride is an ion. I'm pretty sure he knows what a salt is.
The element is called fluorine. Fluorides are salts: sodium fluoride,, calcium fluoride, ...
And I'm not opposed to breeders/converters, but the key technology is the MSR and not the Thorium fuel cycle. That's what guys like Sorenson miss.
Thanks for the link. 11:16 is EXACTLY what I was arguing a few weeks ago.
Fluorides are salts. The element is called fluorine.
That was interesting. I watched the whole thing.
Is Canada a lot friendlier to nuclear power as he seemed to suggest? Have recent political shifts affected this, do you think?
Not if David Suzuki has his way:
http://energyquest4nanticoke.ca/suzuki.htm
I like non-hysterical reactions to current events as much as the next guy, but I also like gratuitous nudity.
I'm just sayin'.
+1 side boob
Why not both?
I might donate to Reason if they reduced Ken's character limit to 100. I'd love to see him have to reply to himself so many times that he reaches the thread cap and then people could insert silly comments into his novels.
I think you're referring to Notorious...
OK, both of them.
or John.
Meh, John makes his own silly comments. Usually without realizing it.
And John doesn't usually talk to himself. He just incites people to argue with him.
You read my comments because you love them, and you respond to them because you want more.
Rape fantasies are downblog, Ken.
I don't fantasize about raping Sparky.
But one time a crazy chick fuzzy handcuffed me to her bedpost while I was asleep.
It was back in the '90s, though. Everybody was getting fuzzy handcuffed to the bedpost while they were asleep.
Crazy chicks were crazier and hotter in the 90s. Because there was no Twitter.
Feminists have bullied women into hiding their actual sexual preferences so much--I suspect plenty of them won't admit to liking or doing much of anything.
We're almost to the point where we need another Kinsey survey. Back then, people were surprised to discover the very existence of the great American BJ. Nowadays, feminists may be surprised to discover that they haven't managed to stamp it out of existence with their bullying yet.
Forget lobster girl. Google 'Shaun Tia.' Ginger perfection.
Never forget.
+1 nevar!
Lenore Skenazy advocates a very conservative style of parenting.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "conservative"?
It's a change from what maybe most parents are doing today, but it's also a throwback to the past.
Maybe the right word is "reactionary"? She advocates a very reactionary style of parenting?
Only people usually call something "reactionary" if they don't like it--they typically mean it as something that's not only old fashioned but also undesirably so.
We might need a new word to describe they style of parenting she advocates. We could use her term, "free range", but I propose "Skenazyesque" because it's hard to say and spell.
Sane parenting?
That isn't hard to say or spell--and it doesn't sound clinical.
It's a Skenazyesque Liberum Tractus protocol.
I like this Nick Gillespie character. He seems in touch with the Youth today. He uses their slang and jive. He's one outrageous dude, and totally up in my face.
He's very popular. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wastoids, dweebies, dickheads - they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.
He's boss and groovy. He writes totally bitchin' articles.
I always pictured him as being something like this.
He's half Joe Camel and a third Fonzarelli
+1 Leather Tuscadero. /slams wall to turn lights on/off.
+ 2 thigh slaps.
I forget. Which one did Fonzie date Pinky or Leather? I think it was Pinky.
World's Oldest Millenial
Lets jsut roll with it dude.
http://www.GoneAnon.tk
Awww! Anonbot had a typo*!
/*if it's happened before, I never saw it.
It's happened often enough people jsut mock it.
Jsut so!
Do You Care About Non-Hysterical Reactions to Current Events?
Like Donald Trump, f'r instance?
They aren't hysterical, they just hate that Lyndon Johnson so much.
This is pretty explosive if true: Leaked Documents Reveal Dothan Police Department Planted Drugs on Young Black Men For Years, District Attorney Doug Valeska Complicit
Police in Small Alabama Town - Racist?
This concept will blow a lot of minds.
Explosive in that it is extensively documented, not in that it happened.
Dothan isn't a small town. It's bigger than Pensacola, FL or Galveston, TX.
Hot Damn! *city folks*
It's funny what some people think is a small town. I live in a small town, 1300 people or so. Over 5000 and you are getting close to medium sized.
Holy chromoly, the comments!
I think this guy encapsulates it well:
"anonymous
December 1, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Please leave these comments up so that people can see what kind of people this story shakes out of the trees.
Please don't delete them."
Yeah, saw those too. Pretty nasty.
Thanks for clarifying!
I sometimes think comments everywhere are something of a rhetorical Ping-Pong match between =
- Trolls impersonating Racist Morons
and
- Actual Racist-Morons.
Yeh. Horrific.
And these are grade-A lunatic ravings:
Continued:
'We anglo saxons are, indeed, a peculiar people.'
Quote from Paul Gascoigne.
First comment =
"james
December 1, 2015 at 1:24 pm
I don't know about all the other things in this story but blacks do have on average 1 standard deviation (15 point) lower IQ than whites. Whites average 100 and blacks average 85. It's irrefutable. It requires a 100 to successfully graduate HS. Undergrad average is 115 and graduate average is 125. This is why blacks are graduating HS but perform at 8th grade levels.
"
yeah, that really changed my mind about the story.
He doesn't mention Asians, I wonder why.
The Henry County Report encourages civil, engaged conversation
lol
Kicking back with some time I decided to explore Henry County. The Wiggins family seemed prominent. I'm sure George had the women swooning:
http://www.algw.org/henry/famconnect/wiggins_d.htm
No posting yet about Kayla-Simone McKelvey?
http://patch.com/new-jersey/we.....ticipant-0
Or what about Jabari Dean?
http://www.therightperspective.....st-whites/
I still can't believe they haven't done a 'Where are they now?' for Lou Reed.
Jabari Dean was in yesterday's PM links. I was unaware of the Kean College threat, probably because I was unaware of Kean College.
Well, it was just fun and games. Hopefully, everyone was delighted by his antics.
HYSTERICAL !!!!
I LOVE HYSTERICAL !!!!
I also like cheese.
CHEESE FOR EVERYONE !!!!!!
Except you. I LOVE YOU !!!
You die last, unless you die first.
CHEESE !!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KffrWrShGho
OT, but always useful - top quotes from Alice in Wonderland:
http://www.bbc.com/culture/sto.....o-remember