19 Things in Rand Paul's New Book No Other GOP A-Lister Would Be Caught Dead Saying
From quoting Glenn Greenwald to calling Marco Rubio a 'so-called conservative' to saying the Republican brand 'sucks,' the Kentucky senator is living up to the whole 'new kind of Republican' thing
One of the main selling proposition in the 2016 presidential campaign of Sen. Rand Paul (R–Ky.) is that he's "a new kind of Republican." In fact, that's the title of Chapter 5 in his new book Taking a Stand: Moving Beyond Partisan Politics to Unite America, which continuously makes the argument that the GOP needs to attract several new constituencies if it is to ever again win a national election.
As Paul puts it in a chapter about his outreach to inner-city voters:
Right now, the Republican brand sucks. I promised Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, that I would stop saying the GOP sucks, and I will (except for this last time). But both Reince and I know that the same old begets the same old. I believe the Republican Party and minorities have common ground. The Republican Party can rightly serve minority communities if we stay true to our core, be open to new ideas, and boldly profess what we believe in.
That's one of many passages in Taking a Stand that you just couldn't imagine coming out of the mouths of other top-tier 2016 Republican contenders. Underneath the video of our interview from yesterday, please enjoy 18 other examples of Paul's different brand of Republicanism.
2) The face of the Republican Party should not be about suppressing the vote but about enhancing the vote.
3) If Bill Clinton stomped on the Third Amendment, George Bush trampled the Fourth.
4) [A]s the writers of The Wire eloquently stated, under our current federal policies, little has actually been accomplished to lessen drug use, while irreparable damage has been done to even the most casual drug users.
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5) Pink Floyd understood that genius needs to be left alone.
6) Snowden's "flight" to Russia didn't help his standing in many Americans' eyes. Though you have to question his destination, his actions are understandable.
7) Knee-jerk reactions by the barnacled boots-on-the-ground crowd who fill the halls of Congress with angry rants seldom solve long-term problems.
8) As Glenn Greenwald and Murtaza Hussain wrote on The Intercept, "anyone paying even casual attention now knows that killing the Bad Dictator of the Moment (usually one the U.S. spent years supporting) achieves nothing good for the people of that country…"
9) One of the first calls I received after my election was from Al Franken congratulating me on my victory. Freshman senators are encouraged to ask one of their colleagues to be a mentor of sorts. So, I figured why not?
10) In the New GOP it is cool to compost, shop at the farmers market, and maybe, just maybe, okay to commit civil disobedience and drink raw milk transported across state lines.
11) I will also cut spending. Some so-called conservatives recently voted to borrow $190 billion to fund more defense spending. This proposal is exactly why Republicans and Democrats have created an $18 trillion debt. When I showed these "conservatives" that you could increase defense spending and offset it with cuts to domestic spending, virtually none of them had the courage to vote for the spending cuts. These so-called conservatives are part of the problem.
11) Nearly 90 percent of [marijuana] arrests are for simple possession, and many of them occur in inner-city areas. Why? Because it's easier to arrest people who live close together and where there are more police patrols. It's easier to arrest people who live in poverty. People who are trapped in these crime-infested neighborhoods often have no means to escape, which exacerbates the cycle.
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12) Radley Balko is the author of Rise of the Warrior Cop, perhaps the seminal book on the militarization of America's police.
13) The military imagery out of Ferguson and other American towns is not only an affront to the local citizens but a worldwide embarrassment for the United States. How can we pretend to be a country of constitutional law when we allow tanks to roll over our constitution?
14) Government tentacles…reach into the pockets of the poor, and I find that despicable and inexcusable. The policy of offender-funded justice is by its definition predatory. Like most predators, it targets the vulnerable. But Doc Ock cares little about the Constitution. All it cares about is feeding its ever-expanding appetite.
15) When I spoke at Howard University here in D.C. in April 2013, I opened my talk at the traditionally black college by explaining that the Republican Party had historically been the party of civil and voting rights….My audience wasn't impressed, to say the least….They had a point.
16) We've arrived at a strange moment in American politics where the government asks the public to view anyone who challenges its authority as wrong or traitorous, while simultaneously asking the public to ignore or accept intrusive behavior that a strong majority views as wrong. Are we now really supposed to vilify all whistle-blowers and trust government in everything it does?
17) It has been proven that massive military deployment does more harm than good in the fight against terror….Conventional war will continue to prove ineffective and too costly against an unconventional enemy that numbers in the tens of millions.
18) I have been a particular target of the neoconservatives. To this crowd, anyone who doesn't agree with them on every war is the next Neville Chamberlain. To this crowd, diplomacy is a dirty word. To this crowd, anyone who doesn't clamor first for the military option is somehow an isolationist.
19) [My] foreign policy would understand that hatred toward us exists, and would acknowledge that interference in elections or the administrations of foreign countries may well exacerbate this hatred.
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does Rand Paul have a fat cock? Because a fat American presidential cock kills ISIS fucks and releases the rainbows of tornado dollars on suburban trickle downs.
1) Only stop saying the GOP sucks when the GOP stops sucking.
2) Vote enhancement? Is he talking about enlisting ACORN?
3) Is this Clinton 3A shot about Waco and Ruby Ridge?
4) Any The Wire reference is a shot at O'Malley.
5) Sync Dark Side of the Moon up with that drone filibuster
6) Snowden would have been much more credible and very articulate as he was giving talks about the surveillance state to his prison cell wall.
7) Boots shouldn't have barnacles. I know that much.
8) But there's always a puppet dictator somewhere down the line that can eventually be installed.
9) Al Franken taught him to go after the GOP every chance.
10) The New GOP is going to occupy somewhere?
11) I hope Paul is prepared to list what domestic spending he's going to cut.
11) (part 2) He wants the cops to go after more hayseed stoners?
12) Balko shoutout. I'll vote for him based on this alone.
13) Pissing away the Law and Order vote?
14) This should resonate with the urban voter.
15) Those voters are locked in. They're not going to be impressed.
16) Let's see what a President Paul thinks of whistle blowers.
17) The alternative being tactical nuclear strikes.
18) Isolationism in certain contexts can't be all bad.
19) His foreign policy will be wearing a "I'm Canadian" t-shirt?
I suppose this adds up to 19. Sort of. If you squint.
Mr. Paul's plan abolishes the Departments of Energy, Education, Housing and Urban Development and Commerce, and privatizes the Transportation Security Authority.
Newsdork: Senator Paul, why would you abolish the Departments of Energy, Education, Housing and Urban Development and Commerce, and privatizes the Transportation Security Authority?
Rand: Are these powers granted in the Constitution? Well, that's reason enough.
"Senator Paul, why do you want Americans to go without electricity, grow up with no education whatsoever, live in inner-city hovels, and be sexually harassed by corporations at the airport?"
4) [A]s the writers of The Wire eloquently stated, under our current federal policies, little has actually been accomplished to lessen drug use, while irreparable damage has been done to even the most casual drug users.
Just remember one thing about the war on drugs: The DEA has access to almost all places it wishes to establish itself in the world compared to either the CIA, the FBI or even Interpol, leaving aside the military which is admitted only in places it bombed to smithereens.
American power can be projected more easily through her anti-drug warriors than anything else.
I remember Glenn Reynolds predicting right after 9/11 that the drug war would become less of a priority as the DEA's expertise would shift to the war on terror, or something like that.
The DEA's domestic espionage campaign is more robust, intrusive, and egregious than ever, whilst the fate of the NSA program hangs in the balance, as they alegedly wind it down... We shall see..
The Republican Party can rightly serve minority communities if we stay true to our core, be open to new ideas, and boldly profess what we believe in.
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Being true to one's core as a conservative means sticking with the tried and true, does it not? Every new idea to help minority communities for at least the last 50 years has not worked as well as telling them to get the hell out of their minority communities and join the larger American community. Half your problem is your identity politics and your groupthink that makes you look in the mirror and see a Black or a Woman or a Gay or a Differently Abled instead of a goddamn Human Being Just Like Everybody Else. And every politician out there boldly professes his beliefs, not a one of them acts on those beliefs. I believe Paul is just about as full of shit as the next one. (But I do like the idea of President Paul ordering a dronestrike on the terrorists at the NSA.)
Being true to one's core as a conservative means sticking with the tried and true, does it not?
In theory, yes. In practice, these "conservatives" do things like pork-barrel 150 new tanks that the army specifically asked NOT to be built because they don't want to maintain them. That ain't exactly tried-and-true. Then there are the social issues. A conservative would technically avoid government intervention in social issues, although many get so panicked by the culture war that they try to legislate morality anyway. But, of course, pretending that a modern conservative (neocon, socon, whatever) is actually conservative is like pretending that liberals get their beliefs about the relationship between citizen and state from the classical liberals that preceded them.
You're right that the problem is identity politics (and extra "rights" afforded to protected classes, which goes along with that). The perception that "core" republican policies would hurt the inner city becomes reality because of existence bias. e.g. Without the war on poverty, poverty would obviously get worse!
When Carol Bowne felt the threat of domestic violence, the petite hairdresser took steps to protect herself.
The Berlin Township woman got a restraining order against a former boyfriend, installed security cameras and an alarm system to her home and began the months-long process of obtaining a handgun, friends said.
But it wasn't enough.
Bowne, 39, was stabbed to death in the driveway of her Patton Avenue home on Wednesday night.
Her former boyfriend, 45-year-old Michael Eitel, was charged with her murder. Eitel, a convicted felon, was a fugitive Thursday, being sought by a U.S. Marshals Service task force.
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Berlin Township Police Chief Leonard Check said Bowne applied for a gun license on April 21, and that she had inquired Monday about her request.
The application process typically takes two months or more as police collect information on the applicant, including fingerprints and reference checks. "We did not get the fingerprint information yet," said Check.
Good luck with that. The NRA does not have the MSM's sympathies. The major news outlets will ignore or bury the story.
Right after the James Byrd murder there was a similar case in Washington state. Some white guys threatened to drag another black man to death behind a truck. When they loosed their dog on him he pulled out his legal, concealed pistol and shot the dog. He then held the fucks at gunpoint until the cops arrived. That was front page news everywhere, right?
I can't find the story anymore and I am too lazy to dig it out of 'The truth about guns'.
Never forget, the gun grabbers don't care about crime, victim safety, or any of the things they claim to care about. They want you disarmed at at the mercy of the state. It is that simple.
That is really the most absolutely baffling thing about gun control, it's largely driven by women (and women's dislike of guns), yet they are the ones that benefit the most from owning a gun.
Reading that reminds me of something that happened in my youth. My mother befriended a co-worker who would occasionally come over to visit. She was attractive, 30ish and yeah I had a crush on her. Once at a pool party for employees she brought her boyfriend, or as I referred to him, Superdouche. He was 40ish and kept challenging the younger men to dick-measuring contests, especially me. I was 16.
A few months later Superdouche called the house demanding to know if his girlfriend was there. They had broken up. When I refused to give him any information he threatened me. I said nonchalantly "Well, you know where I am. I will be waiting. C'mon."
I went and sat on the front porch with my 9mm. He never showed.
What the hell is it with women who pick these guys? Really, are the choices that limited?
There's really a guy in the world who challenges other men to dick measuring contests? I thought that only existed in the minds of screenwriters for lousy chick TV shows like Weeds. It sounds like someone who's desperately trying to pretend he isn't gay - no, this is what virile straight guys do all the time, right?
We've arrived at a strange moment in American politics where the government asks the public to view anyone who challenges its authority as wrong or traitorous, while simultaneously asking the public to ignore or accept intrusive behavior that a strong majority views as wrong.
"Was she asking for it?
Was she asking nice?
Yeah, she was asking for it
Did she ask you twice?"
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Artists are emotional, and while they are often rebellious, it's usually only up to a point. So they like to be in the Progressive herd. I think there's also some sort of psychological displacement going on: they are individualists, and they somehow compensate for their "selfishness" by being leftists. ("We can't allow everyone to be selfish, or it would be chaos!") Add that up and before you know it, Stalin seems like a good guy.
I promised Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, that I would stop saying the GOP sucks, and I will (except for this last time).
Or what, Rand, they won't throw their political machine behind you?
"Now, see.... Let me be clear... uh.. there are those who would take us backward, away from the world. But the American people want progress! This is about that young woman from Austin, fresh out of college having the opportunity for a high paying job. So we won't go backward. "
...continuously makes the argument that the GOP needs to attract several new constituencies if it is to ever again win a national election.
This is opposite of the Steve Sailer strategy which is to get whites to vote as an ethnic block like blacks do. I'm not here to endorse that, but Steve is probably correct. The left has been in power for 50 years and they have chosen identity politics as their method to stay in power. I'd like politics to be more transcendent, and like to eat like to ice cream for breakfast without getting fat. Beat them at their own game.
And according to Sailer, there are signs that the Democrat position on immigration ("Let's welcome the entire Third World, including Muslims, and respect their native cultures and beliefs!") is starting to erode the previously near-unanimous Jewish support for the Democratic Party.
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Most of this is good but there are some serious problems.
[My] foreign policy would understand that hatred toward us exists, and would acknowledge that interference in elections or the administrations of foreign countries may well exacerbate this hatred.
IOW, you're going to base foreign policy off the emotions of millions of people you don't understand. Cartoons of Mohammed also make these people angry Paul. Should we stop drawing them?
It has been proven that massive military deployment does more harm than good in the fight against terror
Not when you have state sponsors of terrorism like Afghanistan. The initial invasion was flawed even botched but bounds better than leaving the Taliban in place. FTS
"anyone paying even casual attention now knows that killing the Bad Dictator of the Moment (usually one the U.S. spent years supporting) achieves nothing good for the people of that country?"
Really? Fucking NOTHING? Someone should tell the Kurds how they have not benefited at all from Sadaam's downfall.
Rand Paul needs to far more cautious with the conclusions he draws. His contention that America's invasion of Iraq begot ISIS is one such example of outrunning the evidence. Even if ISIS didn't exist, it's people would. They probably would have joined Nusra, instead of shooting at it. I recommend Paul hires me as his 'Hand of The King'. I only ask for 50 grand a year. Peanuts compared to the value he'd gain.
Cytotoxic|6.5.15 @ 11:03PM|#
"Most of this is good but there are some serious problems.
[My] foreign policy would understand that hatred toward us exists, and would acknowledge that interference in elections or the administrations of foreign countries may well exacerbate this hatred.
I'm gonna guess you got the gold in conclusion jumping.
"IOW, you're going to base foreign policy off the emotions of millions of people you don't understand. Cartoons of Mohammed also make these people angry Paul. Should we stop drawing them?"
No, he proposes admitting our strong-arming may well piss off populations and we have zero evidence it has EVER helped.
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It has been proven that massive military deployment does more harm than good in the fight against terror
"Not when you have state sponsors of terrorism like Afghanistan. The initial invasion was flawed even botched but bounds better than leaving the Taliban in place. FTS"
Cite missing. Did you clap your hands together and click you heels three times?
More reply to Dytotoxic:
"anyone paying even casual attention now knows that killing the Bad Dictator of the Moment (usually one the U.S. spent years supporting) achieves nothing good for the people of that country?"
"Really? Fucking NOTHING? Someone should tell the Kurds how they have not benefited at all from Sadaam's downfall."
Goody. You pay to help the Kurds.
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"Rand Paul needs to far more cautious with the conclusions he draws. His contention that America's invasion of Iraq begot ISIS is one such example of outrunning the evidence. Even if ISIS didn't exist, it's people would. They probably would have joined Nusra, instead of shooting at it. I recommend Paul hires me as his 'Hand of The King'. I only ask for 50 grand a year. Peanuts compared to the value he'd gain."
I recommend you go fuck yourself and don't put it on my dime
1) I don't have to cite the completely fucking obvious, especially to sub-literate buffoon like you.
2) No, he proposes admitting our strong-arming may well piss off populations and we have zero evidence it has EVER helped.
There's actually plenty of evidence it has, and again 'not pissing people off' = basing foreign policy on other people's emotions. Try to think about what the words you are reading and typing mean before hitting 'submit'. Also, considering going to bed. You need it more than most with your withering cerebral cortex.
Cytotoxic|6.5.15 @ 11:37PM|#
"Your mental feebleness, as illustrated by addressing arguments and points never made, is only matched by how weirdly irresistible I am to you"
From a fucking imbecile like you, I'll take that as a compliment.
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Cytotoxic|6.5.15 @ 11:41PM|#
"1) I don't have to cite the completely fucking obvious, especially to sub-literate buffoon like you."
Stupid shits like you always claim 'everyone knows'.
"2) No, he proposes admitting our strong-arming may well piss off populations and we have zero evidence it has EVER helped."
I'll bet your mommy told you that sentence means something. Is it cold up there? Did she not give you your bottle yet?
"There's actually plenty of evidence it has, and again 'not pissing people off' = basing foreign policy on other people's emotions. Try to think about what the words you are reading and typing mean before hitting 'submit'. Also, considering going to bed. You need it more than most with your withering cerebral cortex."
Strangely, you can't seem to find any of that 'evidence' you keep claiming is there. Perhaps that's because you're a fucking ignoramus.
Oh, and ask mommy for your bottle again, asshole.
And I'll add that it takes a true paranoiac to presume that I am 'attracted' to an imbecile who posts in threads of interest to me.
Cytotoxic, I'm not interested in you at all; it's your bullshit that gets my interest. If your mommy didn't feed you tomorrow and you died, I wouldn't give a shit.
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There's his platform, his stump speech. Just keep hammering it. If the American people are to stubborn or stupid to see the simple truth presented here, then they deserve Hillary or JEB.
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a senate mentor is barely a symbolic position. it's like being the guy who trains you at whatever job you have on how to survive the corporate culture. if you don't pick someone who's the opposite of you politically, you might as well not bother, because it's main value is to exploit it politically later and to not upset too many of your colleagues in the senate....so for rand, one out of two is still hitting .500.
Considering the dammage that Lindsey Graham did to ex-tea party darling Marco Rubio, as a "mentor".. any advice a relatively harmless little toad like Franken could offer Rand, would pale in comparison..
"Taking a Stand: Moving Beyond Partisan Politics to Unite America"
I see Rand got the title of his book from the same Generic Discount Title Superstore as other politicians.
Should he have named it Taking a Rand? Here I Rand? Rand by Me?
How About "I put $1,000,000 in escrow with instructions to burn it all if I don't do the things I promise to do in this book"
So, like 3.5 Bill Clinton speeches (two if speaking to countries that want to buy uranium)?
Or get arms purchases approved by the State Department.
"Give Rand a Hand"? "Put Rand in Command"?
Stand by Your Rand?
"Randy, Willing and Able"
He does get me.
Not to confuse Asian readers, but what about "This Rand is Your Rand."
"I'm So Randy"?
*** waving hands wildly ***
Ooh, ooh! "Ready for Hillary!"
"Randy for Hillary!"
Given his Stand with Rand campaign slogan, it seems an appropriate title.
"I've got a white cock"
Does the book have any photos of cute Guatemalan children whose eyesight he fixed? Chicks did that kind of thing.
*dig*
But probably did, too.
No, but he *does* talk about it quite a bit.
Yeah? Talk is cheap.
does Rand Paul have a fat cock? Because a fat American presidential cock kills ISIS fucks and releases the rainbows of tornado dollars on suburban trickle downs.
Pure. Artistry.
I think I'm tearing up.
1) Only stop saying the GOP sucks when the GOP stops sucking.
2) Vote enhancement? Is he talking about enlisting ACORN?
3) Is this Clinton 3A shot about Waco and Ruby Ridge?
4) Any The Wire reference is a shot at O'Malley.
5) Sync Dark Side of the Moon up with that drone filibuster
6) Snowden would have been much more credible and very articulate as he was giving talks about the surveillance state to his prison cell wall.
7) Boots shouldn't have barnacles. I know that much.
8) But there's always a puppet dictator somewhere down the line that can eventually be installed.
9) Al Franken taught him to go after the GOP every chance.
10) The New GOP is going to occupy somewhere?
11) I hope Paul is prepared to list what domestic spending he's going to cut.
11) (part 2) He wants the cops to go after more hayseed stoners?
12) Balko shoutout. I'll vote for him based on this alone.
13) Pissing away the Law and Order vote?
14) This should resonate with the urban voter.
15) Those voters are locked in. They're not going to be impressed.
16) Let's see what a President Paul thinks of whistle blowers.
17) The alternative being tactical nuclear strikes.
18) Isolationism in certain contexts can't be all bad.
19) His foreign policy will be wearing a "I'm Canadian" t-shirt?
I suppose this adds up to 19. Sort of. If you squint.
Fist pinched a philospophy trampoline with a fucktion of reason prowessia...
The sun shit on this post and her poop made a million words.
13) Pissing away the Law and Order vote?
I've caught my wife watching Law ad Order a few times. I'd have rather caught her boinking the mailman.
Dun, dun!
Cut a deal.
Fun list. On number 11, here's what he had in his 5 year balanced budget a few years back:
That'd be a start, anyway.
They'll beat him over head with that in both the primary and the general elections.
Newsdork: Senator Paul, why would you abolish the Departments of Energy, Education, Housing and Urban Development and Commerce, and privatizes the Transportation Security Authority?
Rand: Are these powers granted in the Constitution? Well, that's reason enough.
It would probably be more like this:
"Senator Paul, why do you want Americans to go without electricity, grow up with no education whatsoever, live in inner-city hovels, and be sexually harassed by corporations at the airport?"
Answer - you would prefer to be sexually harassed by the government?
Don't guess he'll be getting any electoral college votes from around the DC area.
Just remember one thing about the war on drugs: The DEA has access to almost all places it wishes to establish itself in the world compared to either the CIA, the FBI or even Interpol, leaving aside the military which is admitted only in places it bombed to smithereens.
American power can be projected more easily through her anti-drug warriors than anything else.
I remember Glenn Reynolds predicting right after 9/11 that the drug war would become less of a priority as the DEA's expertise would shift to the war on terror, or something like that.
Not one of Insty's more prescient predictions.
The DEA's domestic espionage campaign is more robust, intrusive, and egregious than ever, whilst the fate of the NSA program hangs in the balance, as they alegedly wind it down... We shall see..
The Republican Party can rightly serve minority communities if we stay true to our core, be open to new ideas, and boldly profess what we believe in.
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Being true to one's core as a conservative means sticking with the tried and true, does it not? Every new idea to help minority communities for at least the last 50 years has not worked as well as telling them to get the hell out of their minority communities and join the larger American community. Half your problem is your identity politics and your groupthink that makes you look in the mirror and see a Black or a Woman or a Gay or a Differently Abled instead of a goddamn Human Being Just Like Everybody Else. And every politician out there boldly professes his beliefs, not a one of them acts on those beliefs. I believe Paul is just about as full of shit as the next one. (But I do like the idea of President Paul ordering a dronestrike on the terrorists at the NSA.)
In theory, yes. In practice, these "conservatives" do things like pork-barrel 150 new tanks that the army specifically asked NOT to be built because they don't want to maintain them. That ain't exactly tried-and-true. Then there are the social issues. A conservative would technically avoid government intervention in social issues, although many get so panicked by the culture war that they try to legislate morality anyway. But, of course, pretending that a modern conservative (neocon, socon, whatever) is actually conservative is like pretending that liberals get their beliefs about the relationship between citizen and state from the classical liberals that preceded them.
You're right that the problem is identity politics (and extra "rights" afforded to protected classes, which goes along with that). The perception that "core" republican policies would hurt the inner city becomes reality because of existence bias. e.g. Without the war on poverty, poverty would obviously get worse!
OT Nutpunch: NJ Woman fatally stabbed by ex-boyfriend while waiting for gun permit
Gun control saves another life!
Yeah, poor Michael Eitel would have caught a bullet. We can't have that in a civilized society.
You know I would be perfectly ok if the NRA did the whole campaign on a dead body routine with this. We really need to co-op Prog methods
Good luck with that. The NRA does not have the MSM's sympathies. The major news outlets will ignore or bury the story.
Right after the James Byrd murder there was a similar case in Washington state. Some white guys threatened to drag another black man to death behind a truck. When they loosed their dog on him he pulled out his legal, concealed pistol and shot the dog. He then held the fucks at gunpoint until the cops arrived. That was front page news everywhere, right?
I can't find the story anymore and I am too lazy to dig it out of 'The truth about guns'.
Never forget, the gun grabbers don't care about crime, victim safety, or any of the things they claim to care about. They want you disarmed at at the mercy of the state. It is that simple.
That is really the most absolutely baffling thing about gun control, it's largely driven by women (and women's dislike of guns), yet they are the ones that benefit the most from owning a gun.
Politics is largely emotional, hence filled with such paradoxes.
I can't believe that would happen in Berlin.
You know what else happened in Berlin...
Scheisseporn?
The turnpike?
Reading that reminds me of something that happened in my youth. My mother befriended a co-worker who would occasionally come over to visit. She was attractive, 30ish and yeah I had a crush on her. Once at a pool party for employees she brought her boyfriend, or as I referred to him, Superdouche. He was 40ish and kept challenging the younger men to dick-measuring contests, especially me. I was 16.
A few months later Superdouche called the house demanding to know if his girlfriend was there. They had broken up. When I refused to give him any information he threatened me. I said nonchalantly "Well, you know where I am. I will be waiting. C'mon."
I went and sat on the front porch with my 9mm. He never showed.
What the hell is it with women who pick these guys? Really, are the choices that limited?
Somebody tried to answer that question in the last thread. It resulted in mass cosmo butt hurt.
There's really a guy in the world who challenges other men to dick measuring contests? I thought that only existed in the minds of screenwriters for lousy chick TV shows like Weeds. It sounds like someone who's desperately trying to pretend he isn't gay - no, this is what virile straight guys do all the time, right?
I assumed it was metaphorical.
Wow, you're up early, C. I am on the East Coast now, so that's my excuse.
We've arrived at a strange moment in American politics where the government asks the public to view anyone who challenges its authority as wrong or traitorous, while simultaneously asking the public to ignore or accept intrusive behavior that a strong majority views as wrong.
"Was she asking for it?
Was she asking nice?
Yeah, she was asking for it
Did she ask you twice?"
Fucking welch and his galaxy ufo list... the fucking whore... man I will snatch that man from his home and steal his ass and fucking put his fucking ass on a planet of murky puddles man... where no woman or child can find him... welch.
welch/ alone. on. a. puddle. planet. brilliant. excessively. loved. and lonely and used by agile cyborg and his sketchy mental fingers.... steal ing a fucking traditional ReaSON dad from his fam and vagina...
but, I promised my son I will return you, WELCH from the world you were pirated from and did not know it and alll ... FUCK KIDS AND EARLY evenings and FUKCIN JAZZ
Hey! Fuck you! Don't tread on my jazz!
Syd Barrett alt-text is a Lennon lyric? You monsters.
Indeed! MONSTERS!
"... 'Cause life's not unkind - he doesn't mind.
He stood in a field where barley grows."
Heh. A reference to this I am sure.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6j4-o0-TqPI
BTW, Lennon was a pinko, as was the PF gang. What the fuck is it with artists? They are drawn to authoritarians like moths to the flame.
Also, I suffered through Jupiter Ascending last night. What an awful, awful movie. The whole thing was pinko bullshit.
Artists are emotional, and while they are often rebellious, it's usually only up to a point. So they like to be in the Progressive herd. I think there's also some sort of psychological displacement going on: they are individualists, and they somehow compensate for their "selfishness" by being leftists. ("We can't allow everyone to be selfish, or it would be chaos!") Add that up and before you know it, Stalin seems like a good guy.
I promised Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, that I would stop saying the GOP sucks, and I will (except for this last time).
Or what, Rand, they won't throw their political machine behind you?
Lighten up, Paul. Maybe he'll start saying the GOP *blows*.
"The GOP tries so hard, bless its heart."
"As Joe Biden would say, 'God love ya, GOP!'"
The GOP both sucks and blows.
"No, suck, Marylou, suck! Blow is just a figure of speech! "
I can't forgive Rand for comparison of the Republican Brand to Domino's. Leave the shitty similes to Nick Gillespie.
Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) is clearly in the best position of his fellow 2016 GOP presidential candidates in the Senate, as not only did he vote against TPP after going to the secret room to read the text, he's become one of the loudest voices against the largely secretive process and has pushed for Obama to publicly release the deal text.
At *some* point Obama has to say something about this, right? RIGHT?
Here, let me help you:
"Now, see.... Let me be clear... uh.. there are those who would take us backward, away from the world. But the American people want progress! This is about that young woman from Austin, fresh out of college having the opportunity for a high paying job. So we won't go backward. "
...continuously makes the argument that the GOP needs to attract several new constituencies if it is to ever again win a national election.
This is opposite of the Steve Sailer strategy which is to get whites to vote as an ethnic block like blacks do. I'm not here to endorse that, but Steve is probably correct. The left has been in power for 50 years and they have chosen identity politics as their method to stay in power. I'd like politics to be more transcendent, and like to eat like to ice cream for breakfast without getting fat. Beat them at their own game.
RACIST!
And according to Sailer, there are signs that the Democrat position on immigration ("Let's welcome the entire Third World, including Muslims, and respect their native cultures and beliefs!") is starting to erode the previously near-unanimous Jewish support for the Democratic Party.
*heavy sigh*
Someone has to say it.
Most. Transparent. Administration. In. History.
Obumbles has got to be the biggest douchebag in history.
"The President will take one more question."
"Yes, Mr. President, exactly WTF does Valerie Jarrett do?"
"I'm not allowed to say."
Obumbles has got to be the biggest douchebag in history.
But...gay marriage and pot!
which continuously makes the argument that the GOP needs to attract several new constituencies if it is to ever again win a national election.
2004 isn't that long ago.
A sliver was cracked into the candy arm and a fly sideswipe from a distracted preacher broke her candy arm and then the angelic assigned to Melissa's arm collected his data and called her vectrons into the operating room on a soft super foam and doctor entered and his visage was metallic.. no clit stroking on this doc.... So Melissa had her arm bone fused by a swift infusion by a fucking bored robot.... because robots are bored. never assume a robot wants to fuck you no matter how hot the corporate closet gays make them... and maybe I am in the future ? now? did I slip into the future on my brain fucking rollercoaster? man perhaps... strange shit
Good Evening, A C!
You have intrigued me once more.
"Vectrons" in what sense? "Vectored electrons"?
vectrons in my tortured orgasm equals focus milliseconds of time smashing the tiny galaxies of midget positrons.... and rivers of spilling creeping fucking horrid stars broken and jaded by suns sweeping over my tired and lovely body in a planet spa.
man, this nigga revels in molecules split by laser kisses and fucking ass fucked by dick stars..
keep in mind the entire universe is purely nigger. this means that dark matter and vanilla atoms and silly stars and swimmy clod puddles where space ships might frolic have to deal with intense niggerisms... the fucking entire milocule soup of practical genius is black cocks and vaginas and the common white stars and shit...
space is nigger and stars are honkeys
Stars span the spectrum, Cy. The Blue just don't last that long.
In reality you are always experiencing the past, never the present or future.
Uh, oh. *Now* you've gone and done it!
Yeah, I winced just as I hit the submit, thinking "I am going to regret that".
No, no. That's a hell of turn of phrase. I might yoink it. This isn't the first time you said something I found highly quotable.
if you get fucked up psilocybin the future is the present and the past never happened love. For real... man....
Happy 'shrooming Agile.
The witch's line from GOT just popped in my head. "Everyone wants to know their future, until they do."
I will stick to my vodka and bluegrass.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-OcAP-wmwQ
Thank you so much for this. Great blue grass, bourbon barrel stout and AC on the weekend.
Can supernatural waves from the worlds religions be surged upon ... like beasts on hawaii....
If Mohammed was a wave would Isis surf it? nah
If Jesus was a wave would christians surf it? HELL FUCKING YEA
Mohammed is old and lost and gone.
Islam needs to reinvent itself from the belt bombs to the bookstore mouth rag.
Until Islam gets to this unfriendly level it will forever be beheading its children books witches.
Ban pets -- for the children!
Later, guys ...
Ahh! Cutest disease vector ever!
Most of this is good but there are some serious problems.
[My] foreign policy would understand that hatred toward us exists, and would acknowledge that interference in elections or the administrations of foreign countries may well exacerbate this hatred.
IOW, you're going to base foreign policy off the emotions of millions of people you don't understand. Cartoons of Mohammed also make these people angry Paul. Should we stop drawing them?
It has been proven that massive military deployment does more harm than good in the fight against terror
Not when you have state sponsors of terrorism like Afghanistan. The initial invasion was flawed even botched but bounds better than leaving the Taliban in place. FTS
"anyone paying even casual attention now knows that killing the Bad Dictator of the Moment (usually one the U.S. spent years supporting) achieves nothing good for the people of that country?"
Really? Fucking NOTHING? Someone should tell the Kurds how they have not benefited at all from Sadaam's downfall.
Rand Paul needs to far more cautious with the conclusions he draws. His contention that America's invasion of Iraq begot ISIS is one such example of outrunning the evidence. Even if ISIS didn't exist, it's people would. They probably would have joined Nusra, instead of shooting at it. I recommend Paul hires me as his 'Hand of The King'. I only ask for 50 grand a year. Peanuts compared to the value he'd gain.
Cytotoxic|6.5.15 @ 11:03PM|#
"Most of this is good but there are some serious problems.
[My] foreign policy would understand that hatred toward us exists, and would acknowledge that interference in elections or the administrations of foreign countries may well exacerbate this hatred.
I'm gonna guess you got the gold in conclusion jumping.
"IOW, you're going to base foreign policy off the emotions of millions of people you don't understand. Cartoons of Mohammed also make these people angry Paul. Should we stop drawing them?"
No, he proposes admitting our strong-arming may well piss off populations and we have zero evidence it has EVER helped.
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It has been proven that massive military deployment does more harm than good in the fight against terror
"Not when you have state sponsors of terrorism like Afghanistan. The initial invasion was flawed even botched but bounds better than leaving the Taliban in place. FTS"
Cite missing. Did you clap your hands together and click you heels three times?
More reply to Dytotoxic:
"anyone paying even casual attention now knows that killing the Bad Dictator of the Moment (usually one the U.S. spent years supporting) achieves nothing good for the people of that country?"
"Really? Fucking NOTHING? Someone should tell the Kurds how they have not benefited at all from Sadaam's downfall."
Goody. You pay to help the Kurds.
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"Rand Paul needs to far more cautious with the conclusions he draws. His contention that America's invasion of Iraq begot ISIS is one such example of outrunning the evidence. Even if ISIS didn't exist, it's people would. They probably would have joined Nusra, instead of shooting at it. I recommend Paul hires me as his 'Hand of The King'. I only ask for 50 grand a year. Peanuts compared to the value he'd gain."
I recommend you go fuck yourself and don't put it on my dime
Your mental feebleness, as illustrated by addressing arguments and points never made, is only matched by how weirdly irresistible I am to you.
1) I don't have to cite the completely fucking obvious, especially to sub-literate buffoon like you.
2) No, he proposes admitting our strong-arming may well piss off populations and we have zero evidence it has EVER helped.
There's actually plenty of evidence it has, and again 'not pissing people off' = basing foreign policy on other people's emotions. Try to think about what the words you are reading and typing mean before hitting 'submit'. Also, considering going to bed. You need it more than most with your withering cerebral cortex.
Cytotoxic|6.5.15 @ 11:37PM|#
"Your mental feebleness, as illustrated by addressing arguments and points never made, is only matched by how weirdly irresistible I am to you"
From a fucking imbecile like you, I'll take that as a compliment.
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Cytotoxic|6.5.15 @ 11:41PM|#
"1) I don't have to cite the completely fucking obvious, especially to sub-literate buffoon like you."
Stupid shits like you always claim 'everyone knows'.
"2) No, he proposes admitting our strong-arming may well piss off populations and we have zero evidence it has EVER helped."
I'll bet your mommy told you that sentence means something. Is it cold up there? Did she not give you your bottle yet?
"There's actually plenty of evidence it has, and again 'not pissing people off' = basing foreign policy on other people's emotions. Try to think about what the words you are reading and typing mean before hitting 'submit'. Also, considering going to bed. You need it more than most with your withering cerebral cortex."
Strangely, you can't seem to find any of that 'evidence' you keep claiming is there. Perhaps that's because you're a fucking ignoramus.
Oh, and ask mommy for your bottle again, asshole.
Cytotoxic...
You are an idiot. A fucking idiot. An immoral fucking idiot. An ignorant, immoral, fucking idiot. A deluded, ignorant, immoral, fucking idiot.
That is all.
And I'll add that it takes a true paranoiac to presume that I am 'attracted' to an imbecile who posts in threads of interest to me.
Cytotoxic, I'm not interested in you at all; it's your bullshit that gets my interest. If your mommy didn't feed you tomorrow and you died, I wouldn't give a shit.
"Someone should tell the Kurds how they have not benefited at all from Sadaam's downfall."
Aren't you the one that was saying the Turks and Kurds were BFF the other day?
What if reason was a government site?
What if elizabeth was a plant?
What is reason.com was a nsa plant, man?
I think we're gonna run into non-falsifiability here, AC.
But non-falsifiability is wicked fun, sevo. Why else would we do it?
Q, I just don't smoke the stuff anymore.
Joshing, Sevo. Don't smoke the stuff either. Also, hate conspiracy theories with a white hot passion.
imagine the strange rainbows, sevo....
Oh, I HAVE. Yes I have!
That's your favorite move.
our world is predicated as outliers on a single site. Philosophers, open-minded, communicative... in light of a trillion dollar world... can sites be Reasoned? and their Gillespies and fucking ENB's and all in LIGHT of a TRILLION dollar world?
Someone prove why I and others should continue to post on Reason.com?
Is Reason.com safe?
Safe as houses dot gov.
We NEED you!
You'd miss me if I didn't. We'd miss you if you didn't. Or, fuck it, we can just catch up in the camps.
You don't have TOR and 7 proxies?
Your Thomas video in the previous thread has lead me down a strang rabbit hole.
LMAO, this one manages to wrap up with a clip from Hard Ticket to Hawaii. Dank reference.
You know nobody ever took Hemingway, Cobain, or Thompson seriously until after they swallowed a bullet. Just food for thought.
Is Reason.com a place where purist fucking open-minded libertarians can fucking post shit where the FBI cannot take them down?............
Is Reason.com a safe place to party?
Is Reason.com libertarian safe?
No place is safe. It's the internet, man. To the left, if there's a file, there's a file, so fuck it. Who I am is the only thing they can't take away.
I don't think you can out-Agile him, dude.
Perish the thought. I'm a candle in the dark compared to his klieglight.
Wait. Are you saying I'm cut off, bartender? 'Coz I'm still coherent, so I call bad cricket.
3) If Bill Clinton stomped on the Third Amendment, George Bush trampled the Fourth.
Refresh my memory. When did William J turn my house into a barracks?
You're right; that's a 'speako' or something of the sort.
Saw that too. Perhaps they meant the Fifth, in response to Slick Willie's perjury.
When Agile gets the spins while laying in bed, he puts one foot on the floor and the world spins. Never change, Cyborg.
You guys are fuckin' weird, this late at night.
We're always weird. Nighttime HyR is distilled.
And you are weird too if you are here late at night....something, something, shoe...something, something fitting.
It's 6:00 pm. You NorthoAmerocentrophobe.
There's his platform, his stump speech. Just keep hammering it. If the American people are to stubborn or stupid to see the simple truth presented here, then they deserve Hillary or JEB.
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No, it's kind of brilliant.
He can use it to point out how he works well with Democrats as selling point in the election.
He can use it to show how he's committed to principals, no principles.
He can drag Franken's name into the conversation when people start calling him a "Teathuglikkan" or "right wing extremist".
Hey Rand, it's me...Al Franken.
Congrats on your win. Perhaps you like to ask me...Al Franken...to be your mentor?
a senate mentor is barely a symbolic position. it's like being the guy who trains you at whatever job you have on how to survive the corporate culture. if you don't pick someone who's the opposite of you politically, you might as well not bother, because it's main value is to exploit it politically later and to not upset too many of your colleagues in the senate....so for rand, one out of two is still hitting .500.
Considering the dammage that Lindsey Graham did to ex-tea party darling Marco Rubio, as a "mentor".. any advice a relatively harmless little toad like Franken could offer Rand, would pale in comparison..
Franken: ""I'm good enough, I'm smart enough, and doggone it, people like me."
Rand: "Um, right, Al. Got any other jokes?"
Uh, committed to principals?
I read it as kind of a joke, as if Franken was asking Rand to be his mentor.
Other way around...