Libertarian History/Philosophy

Vince Vaughn Celebrates Snowden, Denounces Drug War, and Defends Guns in Schools!

True Detective star calls Edward Snowden "a hero," the drug war "fucking ridiculous," and denounces gun free school zones.

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British GQ

Move over, Dixie Chicks and Bill Clinton! There's a new American celebrity denouncing U.S. policy on British soil!

Ron Paul supporter Vince Vaughn, set to star in the second season of HBO's True Detective, has nothing but praise for Edward Snowden, scorn for the drug war, and support for guns in schools (really). He tells British GQ flat out:

"Edward Snowden is a hero. I like what he did. My idea of treason is that you sell secrets to the enemy. He gave information to the American people. Snowden didn't take information for money or dogmas. Governments claim to write endless laws to protect us, a law for this, a law for that, but are they working? I don't think so. The consequences are that there is a staggering loss of freedom for the individual. I look at the drug wars and they are absolutely fucking ridiculous. There is a black market and the prisons are overcrowded and it's not preventing drug use. There's a corruption that goes all the way to the top."

OK, Vince, but what the Second Amendment? Here too, Vaughn has taken the safety off:

It's well known that the greatest defence against an intruder is the sound of a gun hammer being pulled back. All these gun shootings that have gone down in America since 1950, only one or maybe two have happened in non-gun-free zones. Take mass shootings. They've only happened in places that don't allow guns. These people are sick in the head and are going to kill innocent people. They are looking to slaughter defenceless human beings. They do not want confrontation. In all of our schools it is illegal to have guns on campus, so again and again these guys go and shoot up these fucking schools because they know there are no guns there. They are monsters killing six-year-olds…. You think the politicians that run my country and your country don't have guns in the schools their kids go to? They do. And we should be allowed the same rights. Banning guns is like banning forks in an attempt to stop making people fat. Taking away guns, taking away drugs, the booze, it won't rid the world of criminality.

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  1. I’m pretty stoked for the new season of True Detective too. I am a bit concerned it won’t have the same elegance of storytelling as the first season. I realize they are two very different stories and really two completely different shows. The format as an 8 hour movie is pregnant with possibility for fantastic storytelling.

    1. While there was a lot that was terrific about the first season, it also had its problems. Certain plot elements were completely unsatisfying.

      1. The lead up, the oblique references to The King in Yellow, it was all really good. The problem, as with any story where you have an ominous, not-fully-known antagonist/monster/whatever, is that people’s imaginations give them their own idea of what it’s going to be, and the final reveal is always disappointing. It’s exceedingly rare that a show or movie or book can deliver an ending that satisfies in these cases. In fact, one of the few I can think of was Ringu.

        If you’re going to excite your audience with “who the hell–or *what* the hell–is the killer oh my god”, you’d better have a doozy of an answer for them.

        1. Also, the climatic scene was, well, less than climactic, and not only because the reveal of the Yellow King was disappointing. The action sequence was over too quickly and more exposition was needed. Certain aspects were just ridiculous.

          But, overall, it was better than most.

          1. I’m hoping that such issues can be corrected in season 2. I know they will be completely separate stories, but that doesn’t mean one can’t learn from previous seasons.

      2. The sniper friend felt like too much of a panacea for the writers.

        “Well, what’s to stop this guy from killing them?”

        “They have this cold-blooded sniper buddy watching their backs.”

        “Perfect!”

      3. You got that right. They chummed the water with Carcossa, Cthulhu, a lot of strange imagery and camera tricks….and we end up with a Scooby Doo ending – “Why, it was Hillbilly McSisterDiddle the landscaper all along!”

        Buzzkill.

        1. Hillbilly McSisterDiddle

          well said

    2. I’m looking forward to seeing how Harrelson and McConaughey’s partnership develops in season 2.

      1. You’re the second worst.

        1. Oh, please. We both know I don’t even crack the top ten.

          1. I envision you as more of a power bottom.

  2. I remember seeing one of those awful “listicle” ads, “10 actors you wouldn’t believe are Republicans!” and Vince Vaughan was in the thumbnail.

    I think what really annoys me is the shit that Vaughan says above now makes you right wing, where when I was a kid, it would have gotten you called “liberal”.

    I will more vociferously use the “liberal” label when describing myself. In a progressive town, it adds mind-blowing confusion to the conversation.

    1. It’s been an awfully long time since any “liberal” laid claim to gun rights as one of their banner issues. Quite the opposite in fact.

      1. In the mainstream, yes. But I believe there were some old hippie colonies where everyone was armed to the teeth, but I’d have to do some searching on that.

      2. I do remember a one David Crosby has been busted for multiple weapons violations. I believe this one was only the latest.

        http://www.nytimes.com/2004/07…..ation.html

    2. I am a card-carrying classical liberal.

      The card I carry is my John Stuart Mills and John Locke books.

  3. As usual, no one gives me a hat-tip. It’s not like my handle is Rodney Dangerfield. Sheesh.

    1. When he was a kid, sarcasmic’s parents used to put a pork chop on a string around his neck…to get the dog to play with him. He gets no respect!

      1. WHAT DO LESBIANS DO FOR A SECOND HAT TIP???

        1. Wait, it involves a U-Haul, right?

        2. You’re just mad because you left the leprous tip in a hooker.

          1. Read as: Left a leprous hooker a tip

          2. Good thing he has many tips. Warty is multitudes.

            1. He’s got a hydra in his pants.

    2. I just assume everything you post is unserious. I mean, it’s right there in your handle.

      1. Good thing his handle isn’t sargasmic.

        1. It almost was, but I thought better than to take a suggestion from SugarFree.

          1. Beware of diabetics bearing gifts?

            Advice to live by.

    3. When he was born, the doctor slapped sarcasmic’s mother. He gets no respect!

    4. What, when you buy a hat-tip like this I bet you get a free bowl of soup, huh? [looks at … the same hat-tip on sarcasmic] Oh, it looks good on you though.

      1. Alright… keep it fair, keep it fair.

        *discreetly hands over wad of cash*

    5. Re: sarcasmic,

      As usual, no one gives me a hat-tip.

      Is your last name Vanneman and your first name Anal?

      No? Then, no hat-tip for you!

  4. And he moved out of his penthouse in Chicago because he didn’t want to get financially raped by Rahm Emmanuel.

  5. Ann Hayes ? Plymouth
    OMG didnt think n person like u could think giving allowing kids n public having guns in public n especially in bloody schools 4 gods sake is SAFE its no wonder we have kids killing people n other kids. PATHETIC
    Reply ? ? 33 minutes ago

    Something about stupid English trash is almost charming. And then there’s this tedious American trash. So tedious.

    Thomas Ferraro ? Top Commenter
    Ryan Grobe No shitforbrains he is an asshole because he doesn’t understand the purpose of the 2nd amendment… it was not to allow us to overthrow our own American government… it was to allow us to defend ourselves against King George and to maintain control over slaves.

    THAT was the purpose of the militias…

    NONE of that applies to allowing people who cannot program their TV’s properly to openly carry deadly force weapons…

    Talk about caring for children…. how pathetic it is that you think more guns shows appreciation for children.

    But then again your a Geek Squad agent… those are the losers and drop outs and failures of every attempt to belong to a real information technology infrastructure for an enterprise….

    So no wonder your ability to think and engage in public discourse is so woefully inadequate… but probably the same level of inadequacy that led to your last girlfriend to leave you for the guy who works at Chili’s in your mall. Man that has to sting…
    Reply ? ? Edited ? 9 minutes ago

    1. The projection…is amazing. Always, always with the projection. It’s so fascinating watching people basically expose what they actually are, completely inadvertently, while they *think* they’re gotcha-ing someone else.

      1. I just love the phrase “real information technology infrastructure for an enterprise”.

        1. The National Information Infrastructure d/b/a “The Information Superhighway.”

          1. Imagine, if you will, tubes, in a series.

          2. “You can watch female mud wrestling on one channel, or play Mortal Kombat with a friend in Vietnam. There’s no end to the possibilities!”

        2. Is that a real thing?

          Cause it sounds like someone just wanted a pay raise.

          1. It sound to me like someone got refused a job in the Geek Squad and is bitter as hell.

            1. It is the ultimate job in technology, after all.

              1. I thought Apple Genius was the best.

            2. It is actually funny, the best technical workers I have ever met were the Geek Squad field agents.

              Not the dumbasses who usually work in the stores, the ones who drive around in the VW’s and act as the IT department for small businesses all over town.

              Yeah building an enterprise network infrastructure is a complicated task, but far harder is walking into a situation with some network cobbled together by a 2nd rate hack using non standard components and likely at least a few pieces of tech so old you can’t even find documentation on their ever having existed forget actual manuals for them and then fixing things so the client is back up and running in just a few hours.

              1. I can see that. A friend of mine does something similar for a small consulting company; they have a bunch of small business clients who need IT support but don’t have enough people/money to have their own IT department, so he goes around doing a ton of varied IT support for them.

              2. Yeah building an enterprise network infrastructure is a complicated task, but far harder is walking into a situation with some network cobbled together by a 2nd rate hack using non standard components and likely at least a few pieces of tech so old you can’t even find documentation on their ever having existed forget actual manuals for them and then fixing things so the client is back up and running in just a few hours.

                Now imagine doing that, but with cars.

                My industry is fucking brutal.

            3. The guy sounds like that cartoonist for The Onion. His comment needed ascii art of Lady Liberty crying.

    2. I think the current proggie meme that the Second Amendment was just about catching slaves smells like desperation.

    3. it was to allow us to defend ourselves against King George tyranny and to maintain control over slaves protect lives and property.

      So close.

      I wonder if this knobslobberer thinks the 1A was to protect our freedom of speech against King George, also?

  6. Taking away guns, taking away drugs, the booze, it won’t rid the world of criminality.

    1) “How do you know? It’s never been tried.”

    2) “But if it might help save just one life, aren’t we obligated to try?”

    3) “Nobody said it would be easy!”

    1. 4) shut up you stupid teabagging racist, the smart, sensitive liberals are talking

      1. STFU they explained.

  7. I presume by “drug war” we mean psychedelic drug war.

    When libertarians say they support legalizing drugs, they mean ending mandatory prescriptions too !

    1. I’m in favor of mandatory prescriptions. I know a ton of people who need a daily regimen of chill pills.

      Oh, and antibiotics for my, er, guests.

      1. Then why not mandatory prescriptions for marijuana too . Then the state need only make the Dr’s not prescribe them 🙂

        1. I’m in favor of mandating smoking. Maybe the angry rubes like Warty quoted above would be a little more coherent, like Agile.

          1. … and an end to road rage.

          2. And maybe compulsory ecstasy for hard cases.

    2. When libertarians say they support legalizing drugs, they mean ending mandatory prescriptions too !

      Uh, duh?

      1. Well, you’d be surprised how many people don’t know that or can’t figure it out from what they say 😀

  8. Vaughn has been pretty out about this stuff for a long time. I remember hearing about his “crazy right wing views” 10-15 years ago.

    1. Wait, was that before or after his 1-2 years of fame?

      If before, I’m a bit astounded.

      1. Right after Swingers, I believe. Or not long after.

    2. Wait. . .are you seriously suggesting we tolerate libertarians? Next thing you know, you’ll be advocating for libertarian marriage.

      1. I’m 100% positive that republicans would be staunch advocates of gay marriage so long as libertarians were legally prevented from procreating.

      2. Lol … Libertarian marriage would be marriage free from state control which I would think would subdue conservatives that consider marriage laws as validating those marriages morally.

        1. No, no, that’s impossible. How could there be marriage without the state? I meant marriage between two libertarians.

          1. But how could libertarians exist without the state? They would be destroyed by roving gangs of road-destroyers.

            That’s why there are no real libertarians.

            1. They’d create a fake state. Totally fictional. Kind of like how the English monarchy has no political power, only writ large to encompass the entire government.

              1. The Roadz Commissioner will be the most powerful official in Libertopia.

                1. The key element of my fictional government plan being the fiction.

    3. People who know him say he’s kind of a solid family man. So that right there is racist.

      1. Please use trigger warnings.

        1. Warning, I’m about to pull a trigger!

  9. Shit, I almost thought they were interviewing Stossel.

    Oh well, I think I like this guy.

    1. Even Vince Vaughn gets more respect than sarcasmic.

  10. Vegas, Baby, Vegas.

    1. You’re money and you don’t even know it.

  11. Regarding the point that was raised in the other thread about how he’s done a lot of, well, crap – I wonder how much of that is because he didn’t keep his mouth shut about this stuff.

    1. In all honesty, he’s not that good of an actor. He’s not bad, and it’s entirely possible that he’s suffered some blackballing, but it’s not like he’s the best actor you’ve ever seen who doesn’t get good roles. He’s gotten pretty steady work, and his filmography looks exactly like what I would expect from a not bad B-level actor/celebrity.

      1. Kind of a poor man’s Bruce Campbell, without the chin. Totally inferior to Bruce, of course.

        1. Kind of a poor man’s Bruce Campbell, without the chin.

          To be compared itself is an honor regardless of how poorly you compare.

      2. He is just like George Clooney…

        They’re both good at playing themselves, and get by through having lots of charisma.

        Clooney just says the ‘right’ things for Hollyweird and has a personality most people can’t resist.

        Vaghn has less charima and not ‘right’ views.

        Neither of them can actually really act.

  12. Vince Vaughn Celebrates Snowden, Denounces Drug War, and Defends Guns in Schools!

    True Detective star calls Edward Snowden “a hero,” the drug war “fucking ridiculous,” and denounces gun free school zones.

    So Vaughn’s gone and destroyed his career just when he’s started to break out of the ‘not-very-funny-comedy’ box.

    1. Hilariously, SJWs were already pissy about True Detective for “not having female characters,” “another white dudebro pair” etc etc, so this will drive them madder. Which probably means tons of them will hate-watch the show so they can complain about it. Success!

      1. I may have to watch it just to piss the SJWs off. Sometimes that can inadvertently lead to me to good stuff; I remember watching Quigley Down Under after the Left got pissed at Tom Selleck over being in NRA ads, and I thought it was a pretty good movie.

        1. Hans Gruber — Wild West Racist.

        2. Can we stop calling them SJWs and call them for what they are, the Perpetually Offended, or PO’d for short?

  13. “Dorothy Mantooth is a saint!”

  14. Vince Vaughn for President 2016, 2020, 2024, 2028, 2032, 2036, etc., etc. etc

    Fuck it. I say we make him king forever!

    The United States has never seen any politician as charismatic and REAL as this man.

  15. Hooray for Hollywood!

  16. I came here, to comments, thinking I might see a lot of support! What I find is a bunch of media challenged people talking about the fictional shows on the darned boob tube! Is it any wonder why our country is so full of messed up politicians?!

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