Silk Road

Silk Road: New Trial Requested by Ross Ulbricht's Attorney [UPDATED with Comment from Lyn Ulbricht]

Claims possibly exculpatory evidence was illegitimately held back or released too late, and that Fourth Amendment issues remain unexplored.

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Joshua Dratel, the lawyer for Ross Ulbricht in his trial over various charges related to running the website Silk Road, has filed a motion for a new trial after Ulbricht's conviction last month. (This is a separate process from an appeal of the initial guilty verdict, which is still expected to happen before the scheduled mid-May sentencing of Ulbricht.)

Dratel's filing. It also moves for a reconsideration of a previously filed motion to suppress certain evidence during the trial, which failed during the first one.

The new trial motion is "premised upon the government's failure to provide exculpatory material in a timely manner." The motion to suppress is "based on information learned during trial, either through testimony or material produced by the government."

That first obligation falls under what's known as the "Brady Rule" after the 1963 case in which it was established that the prosecution is obligated "to provide a criminal defendant with favorable material evidence in its possession." Dratel says the evidence need not be something certain to exculpate the defendant, but merely create "a 'reasonable probability" of a different result." Said disclosure must be in time for effective use of the defense at trial, Dratel argues with supporting quotes from other cases in his filing.

Dratel writes that:

within the 5,000 pages of 3500 material [so-called as it is an obligation under the Jencks Act, 18 U.S.C. §3500] for the government's first witness, Homeland Security Investigations Special Agent Jared Der-Yeghiayan, produced less than two weeks prior to trial – and, in some instances, 30 months after the information was memorialized by SA Der-Yeghiayan (and in most instances, close to or more than two years after) – a substantial volume of exculpatory material and information. Other exculpatory material was 2 included within the 3500 material for Internal Revenue Special Agent Gary Alford (which was produced January 6, 2015)….70 separate documents (some consisting of multiple pages) in the 3500 material contained exculpatory material and information that was not provided to the defense at a time in which it could be used effectively at trial.

His defense was further hobbled, Dratel writes, because:

between December 31, 2014, when the government began to produce 3500 material to the defense – commencing with a 5,000-page production for its first witness, Special Agent Jared Der-Yeghiayan – and the start of the trial, January 12, 2015, the defense was saddled with an overwhelming number of new and modified exhibits. In total, the government produced approximately 145 new exhibits during that time period, and modified between 50 and 100 others…..

the number of new Government Exhibits nearly doubled in volume after trial started, with many of those new exhibits provided to the defense only minutes or hours before court began session, or before they would be introduced by the government through a particular witness. For instance, in just the final week of the government's case, between January 25, 2015, and January 28, 2015, the government produced to defense counsel for the first time approximately 44 new exhibits.

Regarding the motion to suppress evidence, Dratel notes among other points that revelation about the government's surveillance methods "raises some novel Fourth Amendment issues, and also provides further evidence that the government discovered the Internet Protocol (hereinafter "IP") address for the Iceland server ending in ".49″ through warrantless TOR network surveillance."

Accounts of Dratel's motion and its chances from Gizmodo, Forbes and Bitcoin Magazine.


Alex R. Bauer, a former roommate of Ulbricht's in one San Francisco apartment, has written an account of their relationship for Vice Motherboard. It's an interesting read; a couple of telling quotes:

It's hard to imagine how Ross is coping with this judicial soap opera. He's a chill guy, an Eagle Scout with a heart of gold. An admirable dude who, while we lived together, was fond of hiking and playing the djembe. He is well-spoken and humble, with asone reporter described, "the kind of haircut you'd find on children in Norman Rockwell paintings." He is, in all honesty, a bit of a nerd. I once lent him my copy ofGödel, Escher, Bach, cognitive scientist Douglas Hofstader's 777-page opus exploring the fundamental concepts that allow the existence of intelligence, symmetry, and mathematics. He ended up reading more of the book than I ever did. He definitely understood it better. It's needless to say that Ross prefered a quiet night in to an evening at the club….how could such a benign guy be brazen enough to allegedly order murder-for-hires? ….

 The more I recognize the divide between an author and his username, the more the evidence points towards not only Ross' guilt but also his nai?vete. It's this childish quality, the same wide-eyed belief of an inherent virtue within the world, that makes Ross, for the most part, an honest man and, for a period of time, someone I considered respectable. I don't think Ross intended to hurt anyone with his "economic simulation." But he did lie to us. And although I cannot rationalize his actions, I wish it were the Dread Pirate Roberts, not Ross, sitting in that cell. 

My December Reason feature on the interesting world Ulbricht created and how it fell apart.

UPDATE: Ross Ulbricht's mother, Lyn Ulbricht, had this to say in excerpts from an emailed response to former roommate Bauer's Vice article. She is addressing Bauer:

You assume that the prosecution's evidence is valid and that the defense had nothing more than a "skeleton of an argument." However, you can't know this because the defense was blocked from pursuing its case. Exculpatory evidence was stricken from the record and the defense could not pursue it or mention it in its summation….This is also addressed in the defense's post trial motions. 

You say Ross "still has to stand trial for murder-for-hire charges in Baltimore, Maryland, at an undetermined date." On what do you base this? The fact that those charges were not part of the NY case shows they have no merit according to Ross' lawyer. An indictment is simply an accusation that requires no proof. This one is over 16 months old.  I highly doubt he will face these charges at a future trial and you have no basis to say he will….

And how can you speak for "his family." We have never discussed this with you. We are not "troubled" by the allegations of murder-for-hire because we do not for one minute believe them….

You wrap up the article by saying Ross "did lie to us." About what, pray tell? You have no idea of what's underneath the government's carefully crafted and censored narrative and I suggest you approach this, and anything else you hear from them in the future, with more skepticism.

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  1. HAIKU TIME!

  2. It was a total railroading but he also admitted he was DPR, so…

  3. Man, I’m really glad progressives get so easily pissed off by band names because their hissy fits have led me to some good stuff.

    Today progressives got super angry about the band Black Pussy’s name which led me to discover that they’re pretty great.

    A few weeks ago progs disinvited the band Viet Cong from playing on a college campus and I’ve been similarly impressed with them.

    Thank you progressives! If it weren’t for your infantile inability to control your emotions, I wouldn’t know either band existed!

    1. Hat tip Warty?

      1. For Black Pussy yes, but I found Viet Cong on my own, thank you.

        1. Either you tip your hat, or you don’t. Are you a gentleman?

          1. Look, it’s sometimes difficult to tip your hat to Warty since the location of his eyes changes based on the phase of the moon.

      2. Hat tip Warty? Are they any good?

        1. Just the tip

          1. No link? Tease.

    2. Learning that a book has been banned makes my wife want to read it.

      1. Yeah…. not always a good idea. When I was in grad school they screened this Italian film that had been banned over there and given an X rating over here. Sounded awesome.

        Not. Not at all.

        I wish I could remember the name.

        The story was of this married guy who’s wife starts cheating on him with another woman while she’s pregnant with their child. As the baby is born the other woman moves in with them. They proceed to scorn the cuckolded man. There are love scenes with the two women and the infant in the bed with them. But mostly there’s lots and lots of castration imagery. Lots.

        Like the lesbian girlfriend rolling down the wrapper of a salami foreskin-style and then sawing it off with an electric knife. That kind of thing. Over and over.

        The poor guy is distraught and he loves his wife. They keep pushing him to leave. So one night he finally takes the electric knife to his junk. The women welcome him into their bed and cradle him as he cradles his bloody stump. Fin.

        Holy crap was that horrible. I’ve kinda blocked it out so it doesn’t come up when I’m listing the worst movies I ever saw. But holy crap, that thing was so profoundly awful that it really doesn’t have any competition in my experience. Easily the worst film ever made. So sometimes it is best to let a banned work of art lie.

        1. I just….

          Wow.

          Fuck.

        2. . But holy crap, that thing was so profoundly awful that it really doesn’t have any competition in my experience. Easily the worst film ever made.

          Yeah, but they were lesbians.

    3. Thank you progressives! If it weren’t for your infantile inability to control your emotions, I wouldn’t know either band existed!

      It’s such an incredibly perfect encapsulation of their total failure to understand (or tolerate) human nature. They’re so fucking stupid about it that they don’t realize they will just cause the Streisand Effect. They’re so infantile that they think they will get everyone to stop listening to a band whose name they don’t like. And they’re so strategically retarded that they will bring massive attention to that band in their idiotic, childish, and juvenile attempts to silence them.

      We’re, so, so lucky these people are so fucking dumb and incompetent. Because they’re malicious as hell.

      1. Then why is my neighborhood painted with retard lanes that I can’t use?!!

    4. You would think all the college Marxists would love a band called Viet Cong

      1. Not if the intention is to make fun.

    5. Why would *progressives* object to the name Viet Cong?

      I would think the American Legion would be protesting, not the progs.

      1. Ha beat you by one minute

        1. Technically, you said Marxist and I said Progressive.

          Marxists at least have an explanatory dogma, however wrong.

          Progs largely have feelings.

          1. Damn lost to a technicality.

      2. Viet Cong has gone capitalist. Oh Ho Chi Minh, we don’t love you long time.

      3. Most real warriors are far to realistic to hold old grudges. We accompnied my father on a tour in Germany in the mid 1950s, and he always insisted we treat Wermacht veterans respectfully, as former enemy soldiers.

        1. Word. It’s intrinsically American to not hold a grudge. Or at least it is with me.

        2. Yeah, my grandfather was a captain of a sub in WW2 and met a lot of German Uboat captains after the war.

          Which always seemed a bit iffy to me, since Uboat captains did really shitty stuff, beyond the call of what happens in war….but eh, he was the one that fought in WW2, so I couldn’t second guess him.

  4. the defense was saddled with an overwhelming number of new and modified exhibits. In total, the government produced approximately 145 new exhibits during that time period, and modified between 50 and 100 others…..

    The appeals judge should simply vacate the conviction and direct a verdict of not-guilty.

    In my opinion, if the prosecutor is relying on procedural trickery at any level, he either doesn’t have a case or he’s not actually looking for ‘justice’ (which is his job, not convictions) and should be slapped down hard. And the only way to do that is to screw with his convict/didn’t convict ratio.

  5. OT But good stuffs.

    So while access to enough working hours is arguably the key factor in improving low incomes, that’s exactly what the bottom third of Americans have lost. And what work they can get is often chaotic and unpredictable, making a second job, much less family life, exceedingly difficult.

    http://www.theweek.com/article…..rking-poor

    Sure they were cheering when the Unemployment rate dropped to 5.5%. Get fired from one good job and get two crappy pt jobs and the BLS tells us a job was created. And please ignore the ACA’s effect on employment hours.

    1. So while access to enough working hours is arguably the key factor in improving low incomes, that’s exactly what the bottom third of Americans have lost. And what work they can get is often chaotic and unpredictable, making a second job, much less family life, exceedingly difficult.

      Exactly right. Idiot progressives think the problem is poor people not getting paid enough per hour, but the actual problem is poor people not working at all. In modern America, the poor work far fewer hours than the rich or middle class.

      1. And around 1980, right when the lower class really broke off from the upper class, was when the Federal Reserve induced a massive recession to fight inflation

        Irish, they aren’t going to get the working hours thing right when they can’t figure out that the Fed staved off a massive recession rather than “inducing” one by raising the Fed rate.

        1. Wow, that’s idiotic. The United States would have been ruined if that kind of inflation had continued throughout the 80’s, but they’re acting like fighting it was a mistake.

          1. When all you have is a hammer.

      2. One of the dudes on Top Gear said that on the streets of London one sees lots of Astons, Porsches, Mercedes, etc around 5-6am, while at around 8-9am mostly Ford, Pugs, Renaults, etc.

  6. So is anyone else enjoying the NFL free agency madness?

    1. I’m enjoying watching my Phins get Suh. The only way yo shut down Brady is to have him scared. A Suh, Wake, Vernon combo ought to help greatly in that regard.

      1. Yeah my Skins have a new GM who seems to be sensible thus far.

        1. My Chiefs just traded for a much needed OG today, signed Maclin (a much better fit for Alex Smith who won’t throw to a WR without yards of separation), and have got two players to take paycuts so we can sign Justin Houston long term.

          And we still have 10 draft picks to play with come April.

          1. Ben Grubbs is not the droid you are looking for. Sorry. 🙁

            1. That may be true, but he is a definitive upgrade from Mike McGlynn.

  7. So is anyone else enjoying the NFL free agency madness?

    1. Kelly stole the headlines.

      1. And everyone else stole from him

    2. There seems to be more big name talent on the market this year than usual. Of course the biggest two names were free agents because their old teams decided to pay a king’s ransom for a QB≀ combo. Which brings me to the point I make every off season. Any GM who gives a big contract to a WR should be fired on the spot.

  8. “The images above are a stark illustration of the effect of four years of civil war on Syria. The first of the images, released Thursday by the WithSyria coalition, shows a night view of the country in March 2011, just as the country’s unrest was beginning. The second, from February 2015, shows a country plunged into darkness. The city of Aleppo in the northwest, Syria’s largest city and the site of some of the heaviest fighting between the government and rebels, looks almost completely extinguished.”

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the…..lence.html

  9. By the way I love how you guys managed to completely break Bo, It’s a shame I haven’t been posting as frequently and was unable to witness it.

    1. If you haven’t seen it, read the Oklahoma University thread from two days ago. Here’s the part where we ruined Bo.

      1. This post is also where Bo’s hilariously lame insult about us being an ‘Offended White Guy Brigade’ originated.

        1. Can I be a member even though I’m only two of those things? I’ll even be happy with just honorary membership.

          1. Be honest, dude. You’re also neither white nor offended. I find that offensive!

            1. I’M SOMEWHAT WHITE AND CAN FEIGN BEING OFFENDED!

              *runs out of room pretend sobbing, looks backs to see if anyone noticed, continues on as loud as possible*

              1. (turns sports on TV up)

          2. You can be the Woman of False Consciousness.

          3. Well, everyone in the OWGB is also part of the patriarchy.( also we’re all part of a socon coup and play Call of Duty) So, you can either be secretary or nurse 😉

            1. HOW DARE THEY TRY AND PUT POSITIVE REPRESENTATIONS OF WIMMINZ IN OUR CALL OF DOOTY!1!1!1!1!1!!1!!!!!!

              #OUTRAGE

              Sincerely,

              Sudden
              Undersecretary of Diplomatic Affairs, Ministry of Information, OWGB.

          4. I was told during the PM Links that the only qualification is to have argued with Bo about something. Which was weird, because I thought that was just the way to join the Republican Party or the ‘juvenile psychopaths’ in that Gamergate thing.

            1. Yeah, when did Bo get this weird obsession with Gamergate? I haven’t even thought about Gamergate in like 3 months and don’t recall him hating Gamergaters when Gamergate was actually occurring, so I don’t know where this came from.

              1. Perhaps he realized that he couldn’t simply call everyone Republicans anymore (I remember him accusing bloody ancaps recently) and decided to try to diversify his imaginary opponents. But I’m suspicious, the sudden screaming of ‘psychopaths’ makes it seem like he’s just trying to get attention or is trying really poorly to collectively insult people.

                1. I just looked back at that post, and I’m really laughing at this one:

                  John Titor|3.12.15 @ 4:53PM|#|?|filternamelinkcustom

                  He’s fishing for attention; please don’t validate him. If you refuse we’ll have to send elements of the Offended White Guys Brigade to make you stop. Perhaps an Offended White Guys Platoon, or even a full Offended White Guys Company.

                2. Bo’s insults and accusations careen between almost total projection and utterly imagined strawmen. It’s almost as if understanding how and what other people think is extremely difficult for him. I wonder if there’s a term or condition for that?

                  1. Asshole?
                    No, something more clinical

                    1. Compulsive asshole?

                    1. Oh, that thought has crossed my mind. I don’t actually think that’s the case here but believe me, I have wondered.

                    2. I don’t want to air the premises to support this theory in such a public space. We’ll have to chat during the Bohemian Grove event.

                    3. You can also hit up my email under my handle.

                    4. It would lose something without the context of the Satanic, pagan gay orgiastic rituals. But ok.

                    5. I’m not ruling it out at this point.

              2. I barely know what the fuck it even is. I mean, I’ve heard you guys talk about it, but as soon as I heard the details, I knew it didn’t interest me.

                I also haven’t read Ayn Rand. Ever. I also don’t watch Sci Fi. Ever.

                I’m not what you would call a “typical” libertarian, so most of Bo’s “insults” don’t stick.

                But I do know a pathetic asshole when I see one.

                1. Well, none of us are typical libertarians since we’re psychopathic 5th columnists in the employ of the Republican Party.

                  It’s like you don’t even listen.

                2. I barely know what the fuck it even is. I mean, I’ve heard you guys talk about it, but as soon as I heard the details, I knew it didn’t interest me.

                  Gamergate is the lamest “scandal” in history. Essentially, there was some weird shit about terrible SJW game developers allegedly getting favorable reviews from their friends and/or sleeping with game reviewers without ever disclosing relationships and zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.

                  So then nerds freaked out at the SJWs and the SJWs started proclaiming that everyone criticizing them was a filthy, syphilitic rape monster from the Black Lagoon come trundling forth from his pit of agony and despair to engage in widespread rape and degradation against the female of the species.

                  Also, Adam Baldwin got involved and then Anita Sarkeesian started receiving fake death threats while playing it up in an attempt to make herself look like a victim.

                  Again: There has never been anything dumber than Gamergate and our entire species is lesser for having suffered through it.

                  1. Eh, I think Gamergate is pretty damn stupid, but credit where credit’s due the ‘gamers’ have done a pretty good job standing toe-to-toe with the absurd social justice crowd. That being said, they tend to do it in the most idiotic way and get stupidly radical themselves (to the point where saying ‘I don’t fucking care’ turns you into the enemy). Really gamergate is just a manifestation of the response of constant attempts to shove ‘social justice’ into everything, and they tend to target less ‘mainstream’ groups.

                    A couple years back there was the whole ‘Atheism Plus’ idiocy where basically the exact same thing happened, social justice activists tried to make atheism into ‘something more’. Atheists largely rejected this entirely (try impressing a doctrinal religious-like ideology on people who spend their whole time bitching about it) and you can still see the little bush wars going on when people accusing Dawkins or Harris of random bullshit.

                    1. Sure, but Atheists pushed back against the SJW infestation with much more tact and rationality than the gamers did. You should go read some of Popehat’s Twitter arguments with Gamergaters. They’re all hilarious. Tons of Gamergaters have assured Popehat that when SJWs say really mean things about the movement as a whole, this is criminal defamation and ought to be punishable by law.

                      That’s not some rare claim. They make it all the time and Popehat has gotten into some ridiculous arguments over it.

                      I think Sam Harris’s reaction to this stupidity, best seen here when Harris shit on Glenn Greenwald, was much more reasonable than the Gamergate reaction.

                    2. Exactly, hence ‘tend to do it in the most idiotic way and get stupidly radical’. Atheism tends to have spokespersons who were successful in fields outside of atheism and it shows. They’re able to respond to criticism effectively and make their opponents look like the lunatic fringe. ‘Gamers’ and their spokespeople tend to be purely involved in gaming and internet careers, and that pit of retarded vipers does not teach quality debate skills or subtlety.

                      The only thing they really get credit for is ‘tying up’ the social justice types in a very stupid, long battle of attrition. They’re useful cannon fodder to hold the social justice folks in place while the Offended White Guys Brigade ride over the hill and charge their flanks.

      2. It started a couple weeks ago. I’ll bring you up to speed when I get back.

    2. I also missed it. What happened?

    3. It’s an open question. I really started in on him about 4 weeks ago, and I got several emails telling me to back off, and that I was taking it too far. So I did. And then I got a bunch of emails telling me to get back to it. He’s managed to piss off enough people that I don’t really need to do anything, though.

      No ill will towards, the guy, he just needs to move on.

      1. Is his name really Bo?

        1. I started visiting here a couple years ago and remember at the time thinking, “What special type of Ahole puts `Esq` on his handle?

            1. That was a type of special that had to come from Florida.

            2. I’m like 99% sure that commercial committed a host of legal advertising violations. I took a class that dealt with legal ads and they are very heavily regulated by the Bar. I don’t think you could get away with that kind of lunacy without being brought up on some sort of charge before the bar association.

              1. Bates v. State Bar of Arizona, 433 U.S. 350 (1977). Harry Blackmun penned the opinion for the majority which held that the state bar of Arizona could not, consistent with the FA, preclude a lawyer advertising his services and prices.

                Bo probably knows that Nixon appointees, Burger, Powell, and Rhenquist all dissented.

                1. I understand they can’t stop someone from advertising period, but there are definitely ethics rules that lawyers have to adhere to.

          1. Bo Cara Esquire
            Casuistic sophistry
            Arbiter of all

            1. Nice, well played.

              Just used casuistic in a letter I wrote today to describe another esquire’s ratiocination.

        2. I don’t know. Very few people hate themselves enough to not reveal a single detail about their lives.

          1. My penis has two-toned skin.

            Happy?

            1. I already know that your name isn’t Rufus. What else is there to know?

              1. Not sure you want to know.

            2. If you’d stop sticking it in the snow up there the blue parts would go back to normal.

              1. You haven’t lived until you fucked snow.

            3. Wait, you too? Seriously?

              1. Purple, and then whatever your skin tone is.

              2. Holy shit look how fast the comments come with a dick reference.

                Yes.

                1. Surprised? Your dick isn’t important to you? It’s my favorite part of my body. I use it all the time (mostly).

                  1. I think with my other head.

                    Wait. I’m confused.

                    1. +8=====D

    4. BardMetal|3.12.15 @ 8:35PM|#
      “By the way I love how you guys managed to completely break Bo, It’s a shame I haven’t been posting as frequently and was unable to witness it.”

      I think you are entirely too optimistic. You presume that Bo has enough self-awareness to realize his hat has been handed to him.
      I don’t think so. I think we are dealing with a truly dysfunctional personality who simply does not accept any personal responsibility for being an asshole.
      I predict he will return tomorrow, just as if nothing happened and pull the Bo-act as soon as anyone engages the insufferable twit.

  10. “Our international physicians’ charity has been following, with growing alarm, the case of a four-year-old Palm Beach County boy facing a court-ordered circumcision he neither needs, nor wants and deeply fears….

    “In the Palm Beach case there is no indication of a religious motive, no medical need or urgency, nothing but the sheer, callous whim of the father, who, it must be said, missed his opportunity at the child’s birth….

    “It is our fervent hope that this child will be provided a guardian ad litem who will present to the court testimony detailing the unique physical and psychological risks to the child of an unnecessary surgery.”

    http://www.sun-sentinel.com/op…..story.html

    1. 4 year old penis
      Dad wants to trim the excess
      Mom wants it uncut

      1. THERE IT IS

  11. I can’t believe Mother Jones ran this:

    “Quiz: North Korean slogan or TED Talk sound bite?”

    http://www.motherjones.com/med…..n-ted-talk

    1. That’s a pretty tough one.

      1. If you were still on Facebook, you would have taken that quiz at least a dozen times.

        1. Has it been trending?

          And I’ve never been happier with disconnecting from the facebook. I’m a millenial son, we only do instagram because facebook stopped being cool when our parents joined.

          My next social media plan is to revive myspace using hipsters and their penchant for doing things ironically.

          1. It was a thing a couple of weeks ago. I took the quiz.

    2. MoJo ran this? Ok, props, they have a sense of humor.

    3. I got 50% correct. Is that a pass or a fail?

  12. It’s hard to imagine how Ross is coping with this judicial soap opera. He’s a chill guy, an Eagle Scout with a heart of gold. An admirable dude who, while we lived together, was fond of hiking and playing the djembe.

    Not to be a dick, but you’re not helping. I think you just sealed his conviction.

  13. Progressive has a moment of clarity, but remains consciously unaware of his enlightenment.

    Check out what Slate’s resident food critic had to say about McDonald’s:

    I wish McDonald’s wouldn’t bother trying to convince the world that it’s something it isn’t. For all the bad things that have been said and written about McDonald’s both recently and through the years?about its food quality, its production processes, and so on?it has always sold hamburgers, not mission statements. Its nouveau competitors want you to eat bad without the guilt?a stance that manages to confer guilt and judgment. But if you want to eat sustainably, maybe the food you’re eating shouldn’t come on a bun. Or, I don’t know, maybe you shouldn’t be eating at a quick-service restaurant in the first place.

    I don’t want fast food to feel legitimate. I don’t want to be fooled into thinking that one publicly traded restaurant chain is somehow more progressive or sustainable than another. I want to feel bad after I eat a hamburger. I want my fast-food experiences to be guilty pleasures.

        1. Winners are those that keep trying, no matter how badly they fail.

    1. Even the Flagellants are like, “wow, that guy sure is masochistic, what a weirdo!”

    2. ” I want to feel bad after I eat a hamburger. I want my fast-food experiences to be guilty pleasures.”

      Here’s a hammer. Hit yourself in the balls.

    1. And don’t get me started about those frat brothers in Kappa Kappa Kappa.

      1. I’m more of a Lambda Lambda Lambda man myself.

          1. Lamda
            Sigma
            Delta

            in the sky with diamonds….

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