Lindsey Graham: 'I would literally use the military to keep [Congress in session]…until we restore these defense cuts'
The 2016 presidential longshot wants to love American democracy to death.
In other news about grotesque Republican authoritarianism, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), the candidate no one outside of John McCain's immediate family wants to run for president, has been caught on tape fantasizing to the Concord City Republican Committee last week about engineering a domestic military coup in the name of jacking up the defense budget:
[H]ere is the first thing I would do if I were President of the United States: I wouldn't let Congress leave town until we fix this. I would literally use the military to keep them in if I had to. We're not leaving town until we restore these defense cuts. We're not leaving town until we restore the intel cuts.
It's important to observe that Lindsey Graham will not be punished for this. Not by his colleagues, not by the court of public opinion, not by Republicans, not by conservatives. Like his fellow ridiculously over-interventionist colleague Tom Cotton (R-Ark), he can literally say the craziest, most anti-constitutional shit related to national security, and yet about the only time conservatives will let him have it is when he goes all "Grahamnesty" on immigration.
According to the Republican mindset in 2015, Graham and Cotton are wise men on foreign policy, and the only "radical" in the room is Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). That the GOP considers this a winning strategy is worrying enough; that party elders remain this committed to interventionism 14 years into our disastrous nation-building all over the globe strains basic human comprehension.
Link via Mediaite's Andrew Kirell. Related viewing from Reason TV: "3 Reasons Conservatives Should Cut Defense Spending Now!"
UPDATE: Graham's office got back to Mediaite, calling the remarks (in Mediaite's paraphrase) a little "over-the-top humor to win over his audience."
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This is my complete and utter lack of surprise.
Not that this fucktard swore an oath as a military officer to defend and uphold the Constitution or anything...
As a military officer? He swore the same oath a fucking month ago!
As of 3:42 PM ET, Lindsey Graham's office claims "LOL J/K"
Haha, oh that lovable rascal knows there's nothing that tickles the nation's funny bone quite like threatening to use military force to impose his will.
I'm sorry, but that kind of joke is fucked up. I mean, if it were totally over the top, like "I'd call our alien overlords and have them nuke the Capitol," maybe that would be okay, but a president really could attempt to do that. Of course, about ten minutes later, he'd be impeached, and then, I suppose, he'd refuse to step down.
Coup d'?tats aren't really funny.
Or if he was just goofing with the sound techs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.....ve_minutes
Sure didn't sound like Lindsey was joking on that tape either.
Right, I didn't think Reagan was actually going to nuke the Russians. That was just in bad taste. Do I think Graham might actually do something like that, especially if he thought some people would back him? Maybe.
I think Graham would totally try it. I don't think he is conniving enough to think about lining things up in advance first, he'd just make the orders.
Hopefully there are still enough honest men in the armed forces to tell him to jump in a lake.
Yeah, I don't think we're that far gone just yet. But moments like these, including Obama's evasion of constitutional limits, give me the creeps. It's like hearing echoes from a totalitarian future.
You can't really claim "j/k" after insisting on the literalness of what you were saying.
Mother of all Derp?
I'm going to have to say no, if only because that would be functionally similar to Peak Derp, which we all know does not exist.
The Derp Echidna?
But what do Lindsey Graham and Tom Cotton have to say about the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids?
He is in favor of it and plans on voting for more "free trade" with China, Vietnam, and hopefully North Korea and Cuba. Nothing says supporting communism more then giving communist governments trillions of dollars
Wait... Yes, literally.
I will echo this. If nothing, it is heartening to see that at least Graham knows when the use of "literally" is proper. He literally would do that. I have no doubts in my mind.
Sploosh.
This is what happens when you give your male child a girls name.
Het-Cis!
Exactly. Look what happened to Anakin "Annie" Skywalker.
and a girl's voice.
It was one of those tragic cases when a kid is born with both sets of genitals. Ma and Pa Graham had to make a choice on how to raise their kid. In this case they chose to raise the kid as a boy (which is clearly the wrong choice).
I'm pretty sure the only reason Graham still has a job is the same reason Nancy Pelosi still has hers: the voters in their state/district would never, ever vote for the other team.
Somebody from SC needs to explain how he keeps winning primaries there.
Graham is convinced if he can stay in office long enough, Rhett Butler will finally come back.
calling the remarks (in Mediaite's paraphrase) a little "over-the-top humor to win over his audience."
So he admits to calling for a military coup as a way to pander to his audience? Well, that's alright then.
Even for SoCons and neocons, I think that's a bridge too far.
It would have been nice if someone who was there would have piped up and asked him what the fuck he was on about. Maybe ask a follow up question about his predilections for sheep.
"Ah, I see, so you're proposing a coup. Will you disband Congress altogether and rule directly, or will you retain a puppet legislature of some sort? What will your new title be?"
Not any more.
What is Lindsey Graham hiding from the public?
Is it Early Onsent Dementia or Alzheimer's?
You really want to go there?
I really don't want SugarFree to go there.
I kinda want Warty to go there.
Treason. Graham should have been swinging from a rope 2 days ago.
This should scare the shit out of proggies who think executive actions by Our Glorious Leader are fine and dandy. They need to look at what may happen when a GOP president, like a Graham, wins the White House.
It probably does scare the shit out of them but they still won't understand why it's bad for their guy to do it. It's the 'tard' in 'progtard'.
Thanks for depressing the shit out of me. I agree with everything you wrote and that is just sad.
Most proggie brain farts can be traced to a failure to comprehend the Iron Laws. In this case:
Me today, you tomorrow.
You're confused. The GOP won't bother to point to anything Obama has done in order to wipe its ass with the Constitution.
If ever there were latent Nazi dictator lurking in the halls of Congress, it would be Lindsay Graham. I shudder to think that this despicable man is one of the most powerful in the country. Is there any doubt that his untimely death, natural or otherwise, would be a net gain for humanity?
Ummmm...I'll settle for him not being in office.
His death is the only thing which will bring that about.
People like Lyndsay Graham become more palatable to electorates the longer time goes on. There is an iron law of monopolies that applies equally well to democracies and states in general, that over time quality will diminish while costs rise. Over time the likelihood of his ilk coming power would be a certainty if not for the off-chance of a mass extinction event.
Not butch enough. I think that the best he could do is to reprise the Himmler role in this new Nazi dictatorship you are proposing. Both of them are kind of swishy looking.
If ever there were latent Nazi dictator lurking in the halls of Congress, it would be Lindsay Graham.
I can name at least two dozen more.
-jcr
Can we call out the Offended White Guy Brigade over this?
How many more members do we need before we can officially be a Division?
Hmm. Brigadier General R C Dean.
I like.
You just put the "bird" on your shoulder today......and you want a star already?
Typically a Major General. Even better.
Alright, I had check a TOO. How weird is that that Lieutenant General outranks a Major General, and a plain General outranks both of them?
And a Brigadier General doesn't actually have a command. He's just a flunky for a Major General.
So, when the OWGB gets to 10,000 members, I go to being a Major General.
Sweet.
IBM Watson' personality analysis of Graham
You are a bit compulsive and somewhat shortsighted.
You are organized: you feel a strong need for structure in your life. You are assertive: you tend to speak up and take charge of situations, and you are comfortable leading groups. And you are fiery: you have a fiery temper, especially when things do not go your way.
Your choices are driven by a desire for prestige.
You are relatively unconcerned with tradition: you care more about making your own path than following what others have done. You consider helping others to guide a large part of what you do: you think it is important to take care of the people around you.
*Compared to most people who participated in our surveys.
Link
http://watson-um-demo.mybluemix.net/?reset=true
Afraid to analyze SugarFree
I ran through "The Ripper Paranundrum: A Warty Hugeman Time Travel Adventure." Here is the summary of the results:
I fear Watson may not be ready for prime time.
I put "Fuck You" in enough times to hit the word minimum. I got:
You are a bit shortsighted, boisterous and explosive.
You are emotionally aware: you are aware of your feelings and how to express them. You are imaginative: you have a wild imagination. And you are content: you are content with your level of accomplishment and do not feel the need to set ambitious goals.
Your choices are driven by a desire for prestige.
You are relatively unconcerned with tradition: you care more about making your own path than following what others have done. You consider independence to guide a large part of what you do: you like to set your own goals to decide how to best achieve them.
I just tried "NO TV AND NO BEER MAKE HOMER GO CRAZY", cut and pasted enough times to hit the 100 word minimum.
You are a bit compulsive, somewhat shortsighted and can be perceived as coarse.
You are energetic: you enjoy a fast-paced, busy schedule with many activities. You are excitement-seeking: you are excited by taking risks and feel bored without lots of action going on. And you are altruistic: you feel fulfilled when helping others, and will go out of your way to do so.
Your choices are driven by a desire for well-being.
You consider taking pleasure in life to guide a large part of what you do: you are highly motivated to enjoy life to its fullest. You are relatively unconcerned with achieving success: you make decisions with little regard for how they show off your talents.
Prepare for memory holing of Hillary's email problems and full focus on this shit in 3, 2, 1 ...
Look, this is serious. The Republicans intend to use the military and evil gun owners to take over the government.
And the Democrats intend to use the government to take over the military and evil gun owners. This creates the balance of powers.
The Republicans are fucking great at doing stupid things at the best times (for Democrats, at least).
So, Lindsay the closet case is publicly stating his desire to stage a military coup. Time for the Republican party to expel that goddamned sissy chickenhawk.
-jcr
This is just a polite detention of the legislative body until it does the right thing. The soldiers will even make sure the guns aren't pointed at legislators' heads when the bill to increase spending by 150% is presented, "debated" and passed by unanimous consent.
While this man will never be president, I hope he stays in the campaign for as long as possible. That's one delusional old queen.
I think he's worse than delusional. He's downright evil.
I think it safe to say that this comment may draw no negative response from the commentariat!
The danger is that some presidential contender might take him on as a VP assassination deterrent (The Cheney gambit) win and unexpectedly die.
I could say the same thing about Hillary Clinton.
-jcr
So he wants to win over his audience with unconstitutional ideas.
Sorry asshole, you're still a vile piece of shit. And so is your audience.
Lindsey Graham has made it loud and clear that he does not support any kind of fiscal sanity. What a piece of shit.
There's also the whole separation of powers thingy, asshole. Congress doesn't have to cut the checks if it doesn't want to, and the President can go cry about it.
So John Bolton, Peter King, and this piece of shit are all running for president in 2016? It's a trifecta of tyrannical neocon asswipes.
Make that four neocon asswipes. Can't forget Hillary.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/do.....rand-paul/
Politicians are a lot like Tinkerbell. If we all forget about her she'll die.
Maybe they'll split up that bloc's vote.
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Someone should literally expel him from the senate.
How would a Lindsey graham sandwich start? So, you need to find a hog running wild in Chernobyl... problem is no Chernobyl hog would choke to death on a Lindsey gRaham dick so any pretense of said sammich would fail miserably into the void of lights and flickers.
Just for the record:
This man is an idiot. Just as much as Obama is for dodging Congress every chance he gets. This is a republic. You can't change the rules because you don't like them. BOTH sides do it habitually. In my opinion, that makes them all criminals. I don't what has happened to our country. It is because of the mentality of these types that it is happening. NO ONE elects these people for THESE type of ideas. They get elected on lies...THEN spring THIS sh*t once in office...
"If only the right people were elected then the government would limit itself"--- Some delusional person.
a little "over-the-top humor to win over his audience."
Was anyone in the room laughing?
Graham is a right of center progressive and just as dangerous as Hillary. He is a long shot for a reason, he is a whack job.