Tonight on The Independents: South Dakota Independent Senate Candidate Larry Pressler, Dems Fleeing Obama, The Invisible Ebola Czar, Zuckerberg's Millions, the One-Man Highway, Michael Moynihan, Mollie Hemingway, Michael Weiss, and Aftershow

Tonight's live episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, with re-airs three hours later) begins with the latest on the Ebola outbreak, including a timely reminder from The Federalist's Mollie Hemingway (who will be on to discuss) that we already have an Ebola czar; it's just that she's been even more forgotten than the millions in taxpayer money thrown at the Center for Disease Control's anti-pandemic efforts. Kennedy hits the streets of New York to find out what the heartland is afeard of with the virus, and Party Panelists Michael C. Moynihan, (Reason contributing editor) and Jimmy Failla (gruff ex-cabbie with a heart of gold) will react.

The Panel will also consider the strange Obama-phobic implosion of Democratic Senate candidate in Kentucky Alison Lundergan Grimes, and what that might say about the party's uneasy relationship with the president two weeks before Election Day; and assess the efficacy of Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg's $25 million CDC donation to fight Ebola.

The three-way South Dakota Senate race is as tight as it is inscrutable, with former GOP Sen.-turned independent candidate Larry Pressler now saying that he'd be a "friend of Obama" if returned to office. He'll be on to discuss. Foreign policy analyst Michael Weiss will break down the latest battlefield confusion surrounding ISIS. And I will spin a yarn about the charming Briton who built his own damned road rather than wait for the government to fix a damaged one adjacent to his property.

Online-only aftershow begins at foxbusiness.com/independents just after 10. Follow The Independents on Facebook at facebook.com/IndependentsFBN, follow on Twitter @ independentsFBN, and click on this page for more video of past segments.

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[Rufus J. Firefly]

"Tonight's live episode..."

I'm waiting for tomorrow's dead episode.

Hello.

[Hyperion]

Please don't eat my chicken!

Her name is snow and I just want her to live!

Delicious fried chicken.

[C. Anacreon]

Comment under the video by a poster who apparently is attracted to the animal rights activist:

Dick_Gosinya ? 9 minutes ago
Kelly,
You're way hot with longer hair. Get some help with your anxiety and I'd bang you like a base drum.

[Trouser-Pod]

Yeah, you never hear about the floor toms in those similes.

Also, don't stick it in crazy, even after the "help".

[Hyperion]

I'll eat your chicken, then I'll bang you like a bass drum, beeotch!

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Double facepalm

[PapayaSF]

Lighting the Notorious G.K.C. signal:

The city of Houston has issued subpoenas demanding a group of pastors turn over any sermons dealing with homosexuality, gender identity or Annise Parker, the city's first openly lesbian mayor. And those ministers who fail to comply could be held in contempt of court.

[Suthenboy]

Uh....I don't think that is gonna fly.

I am as solid an atheist as they come, but equally as solid a proponent of free speech and religious liberty.

This is completely unacceptable. So this is the generation that was taught that the constitution was written by a bunch of homophobic white male slaveholders come to power. Who coulda seen this coming?

Is it time for pitchforks yet?

[SusanM]

You realze that the article is written by Todd Starnes - who is pretty much the far-right version of Andrea Dworkin? If it's true, it's certainly a dirty trick.

If it's true.

[Trouser-Pod]

Well, the subpoena would suggest it is.

[SusanM]

Given the many mentions of the petition to overturn Houston's non-discrimination law I think it's safe to say, at the very least, that they're investigating irregularities in Pastor Riggles involvement in said petition.

It's far more than the PC police strong arming every pastor in that area as Starnes would be hinting.

[Trouser-Pod]

Investigating? No-they're the defendants in a lawsuit. This is one of their tactics

[SusanM]

This "tactic" is normal, pre-trial discovery. Maybe demanding the sermons amongst everything else is going too far - maybe. But it's not nearly the whole story is my point.

[SusanM]

Another point is that, as I say, Starnes has the same journalistic integrity with LGBT issues as Jezebel does with the Koch brothers.

http://www.glaad.org/cap/todd-starnes

[C. Anacreon]

HnR sure has been slow this afternoon, I guess not enough trolls to get the posts up today?

I forgot to mention yesterday on Columbus Day that when I was in Seville, Spain last month, we toured the big cathedral there. And to our surprise, right in the middle, with no fanfare or advance warning, there's Christopher Columbus' tomb!

You would have thought they would have made a bigger deal about that being there in the travel ads and books. But perhaps, all of those are now PC too, and trying to avoid any positive mention of Columbus. (Too bad for the capitol of Ohio and the District of Columbia, btw).

[PapayaSF]

I never made it to Seville, but I enjoyed the other parts of Spain I visited decades ago.

[Trouser-Pod]

Well, to be fair, the "He's obviously dead" message his tomb sends should play well with the PC types that worry about that sort of thing.

[Bardas Phocas]

You know he's a Wop?

[SIV]

Columbus is only a bad guy for the American Left.

[Trouser-Pod]

Did this get mentioned yet?

Pretty damn cool, these kids.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Sometime in the future historians will look back on these days and conclude liberalism was hijacked and raped by progressive totalitarians who then turned around and killed liberty.

[Trouser-Pod]

And, unfortunately, I don't hold out much hope for their fledgling student group after this (not that a CCC group was going to have smooth sailing in the first place).

But, they have my respect, and I'd be willing to throw a few bucks their way.

[C. Anacreon]

Oh, my, I just got an email announcing upcoming concerts, with a promo for Billy Idol. Get how he is described:

Billy Idol was an early architect of the sound, style, and fury of punk rock.

Um, WHAT?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

No he wasn't.

[PapayaSF]

It's true. He first hit the big time (more or less) in the band Generation X, formed in 1976.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

But were they really architects? I may be wrong but enough bands were already doing that stuff - even as early as the early 70s with New York Dolls.

[PapayaSF]

One can always argue about exactly when a musical style began, but IMO being in a punk band in 1976 earns the right to be called "early." Most accounts would say it began to coalesce in 1974-'76. The first issue of Punk magazine was dated January 1976.

[SIV]

^Yup^

[PapayaSF]

Plus, Generation X was a band with some popular and critical success. I'd say if one were listing the top influential early punk bands, they'd probably be in the top 20. So even "early architect" is only slightly hype-y.

[Gluesponge]

Good point, and bands like The Dictators (who started in 1973) were punk before punk was cool.

I mean, who doesn't like a punk band with a singer named "Handsome Dick Manitoba"?

Incidentally, The Dictators was the first group for bassist Mark "The Animal" Mendoza (later of Twisted Sister fame...)

Being a child of the 70's and 80's, I can remember some punk bands, only in passing.. but for some reason I can remember the Dictators (mainly because my older cousin was obsessed with them and KISS... not sure how that came about....)

[PapayaSF]

Yes, the Dictators were important proto-punks.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Prediction: The Michael Weiss Show

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Remember when SARS was all the rage?

[Heroic Mulatto]

SARS and MERS are actually something to worry about.

[Fist of Etiquette]

WHERE IS MOYNIHAN I WAS PROMISED MOYNIHAN

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Happy?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Seldom.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Can we talk about Benghazi, IRS, NSA, F&F, ACA or Ferguson or something relevant?

[Fist of Etiquette]

She sounds perfect for a more senior position in the Obama Administration.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Could you imagine the fraud and corruption in the political back alleys away from public or media scrutiny in North America?

IT MUST BE STAGGERING.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Foster wearing a beard!

[Fist of Etiquette]

They should have had a girl on the party panel, beside which Moynihan would look even more cad-like.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Kennedy joking about razors in your precious little children's candy!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Moynihan, it appears, doesn't watch < i The Independents.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

CDC director Dr. Tom Friedan walks to podium to take media questions.

Reporter: What is the CDC recommending we do about ebole, er, ebola?

Director taps mic. Clears throat.

Friedan: Run.

[Fist of Etiquette]

When I read The Hot Zone I think it was USAMRIID who saved us from Ebola.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I quit using CVS because the stopped selling cigs.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

they

[Fist of Etiquette]

Moynihan is back in the green room? NO ONE PUTS MOYNY IN A CORNER.

[Fist of Etiquette]

That's better.

[Heroic Mulatto]

There's no sex in the green room.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Is the door green?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Only if Mrs. Jones is in there.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Seriously, you're a Democrat. No one expects you didn't vote for Obama. For fuck sake.

[Fist of Etiquette]

It was literally a thousand degrees today and Foster wears a sweater vest?

[Fist of Etiquette]

John Kerry? And you want to be my yokeltarian?

[Atanarjuat]

Moynihan has shifty eyes.

[Fist of Etiquette]

That looks fun. Maybe I'll join ISIS...

[Atanarjuat]

People with shitty credit watch the Independents, apparently.

[Trouser-Pod]

"Scorge"??

[Fist of Etiquette]

The ghost of Iraq past.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I can't tell, is that Welch's suede jacket Weiss is wearing?

[Atanarjuat]

Sh-sh-sh-shia!

[Rev-Match]

"PINCER MOVE, PARKER!"

[Fist of Etiquette]

YES BY ALL MEANS CUT OFF THE GUY WHO KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON.

[PapayaSF]

"The Preferred Kurd."

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I giggled.

[PapayaSF]

Yes, help the Kurds!

[Fist of Etiquette]

U
S
A

[Francisco d'Anconia]

A rum pa pum pum.

[Rev-Match]

I quit paying attention for a few minutes. Did I just hear Kennedy say "beat-off"?

[PapayaSF]

Yes, you did.

[Rev-Match]

She should talk like that more often. Interrupting with colorful language is, at least, entertaining.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

My grandfathers fought in Korea so one day we could kick their asses in a drum off.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Make Foster base jump into a swimming pool full of ferrets.

[PapayaSF]

+1 Dude abiding.

[Trouser-Pod]

"Nice marmot, man."

[Fist of Etiquette]

And let's not forget wildlife, an amphibious rodent, for uh, domestic, you know, within the city... that ain't legal ether.

[Trouser-Pod]

+1 fuckin' park ranger

[Raven Nation]

I believe there is also an ordinance prohibiting you from allowing ferrets to fight inside your pants.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Someone didn't vet their fiance very well.

[PapayaSF]

What's the statute of limitations on fraudulent green card marriages?

[Heroic Mulatto]

None.

Unless she uses the VAWA loophole.

[PapayaSF]

Huh. Can you imagine the media uproar if a Republican candidate's fianc? confessed to fraudulent marriage for profit?

[Fist of Etiquette]

HE'S HOLDING EBOLA HOSTAGE! And he apparently is wearing a robe in his stock photo.

[Atanarjuat]

So it's not a Sharpie that goes up someone's butt. Ok.

[Trouser-Pod]

Well, after all that talk of beat-offs and undulating carbuncles...

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Not according to UrbanDictionary, no.

[Fist of Etiquette]

It always seems Weiss is one question and answer away from solving the Middle East. But "Topical Storm" is nice, too.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Cash is an excellent coagulant.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Build the border wall out of dollar bills.

[Fist of Etiquette]

They're hemorrhaging Moynihans.

[Rev-Match]

It's the we'll cross that bridge when we get there approach. Nothing could go wrong.

[PapayaSF]

OK, I'm bailing for Dangerous (1935) on TCM.

[SIV]

^Ditto^

[Fist of Etiquette]

Where the fuck does Moynihan have to be? Does he have to hurry up and get outside and soak up the no sun?

[Rev-Match]

Pastor Joel is damaging to my calm.

[Almanian!]

So Moynihan's gone full vampire now. Cool

[Almanian!]

I wonder if a Tommy Copper weiner wrap could help with Old Man's Disease?

Just axin' questions....

[Almanian!]

Tommy Copper gloves need to appear on the next Bond villian.

"Coppermember". No.

"Copper Hands". Yes.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Daryl from TWD is talking to Dish customers right now! Suck it, Comcast idiots.

[Atanarjuat]

If I had Mark Zuckerberg's money, I'd use it for something worthwhile. Introducing those adorable ring-tailed lemurs as Floriduh's newest invasive species.

[Suthenboy]

Why? They likely already have these. At the least they could easily be reintroduced and they are smarter than lemus. And less screechy and annoying.

The last coatamundi was spotted in Jonesville in the early seventies. They are likely still around.

http://www.nps.gov/sagu/nature.....gtails.htm

[Suthenboy]

Now the madagascar lion...;.get some of them. They are badass critters.

[Suthenboy]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L....._Ferox.JPG

[PapayaSF]

There is a private zoo (in essence) in Florida where they have them, and you can go feed them grapes. It's a blast. They just take turns taking each grape out of your fingers with their tiny little hands, eating it, and reaching for another.

[Fist of Etiquette]

DON'T END THE POISON, FOSTER IT!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Friends with both Romney and Obama? Pass.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Why am I even still watching this show? Moynihan is gone.

[Fist of Etiquette]

AND, bee tee dubs, it looked very much by the expression on Moynihan's face that the fact he was done for the night was a complete surprise to him. I think perhaps < i The Independents was jealous of his following.

[Atanarjuat]

No wardrobe critique? I assume GILMORE is out banging Ukrainian hookers. So here goes. Kmele looks pretty sharp. Like a hip professor. Kennedy is hot and Moynihan looks kinda emo, like the weird kid from Wedding Crashers with that hair. OK, fuckit, this is harder than it looks.

[Atanarjuat]

Hvala

[Fist of Etiquette]

I don't remember seeing an episode of Manufacturing Marvels tonight.

[PapayaSF]

And there seemed to be a larger proportion of public service ads. Oh-oh.

[Fist of Etiquette]

No roundabouts? Pass.

[Fist of Etiquette]

This is Where It's a Lame Segment Name.

[Fist of Etiquette]

AH! Lou Dobbs.

[NotAnotherSkippy]

I deem this thread closed. May Fist be with you.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Lou Dobbs sings Lou Reed.

Christmas album.

[Almanian!]

Everybody's meetin' down at :
Lou Lou's....

/Ohio Express

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Christ, Dobbs is a fear monger.

[Fist of Etiquette]

No cut off.

[VG Zaytsev]

Democrats demonstrate their commitment to free speech

The city of Houston has issued subpoenas demanding a group of pastors turn over any sermons dealing with homosexuality, gender identity or Annise Parker, the city's first openly lesbian mayor. And those ministers who fail to comply could be held in contempt of court.

Reason demonstrates their commitment to diversity by not covering the story.

[PapayaSF]

Hey!

[PapayaSF]

Don't worry about Ebola, because Top Men are on the job! Ebola screening: Immigration officers shaking hands with passengers at Heathrow

Sorius Samura, 51, a documentary maker who had spent 10 days in Liberia making a film on the crisis, said the British authorities did not appear to be taking the situation seriously enough.

He said: "I've just come back from via Brussels and our flight was met by an airport official saying we might be screened. "He even shook our hands. That's something nobody does now in Liberia and infected countries, you have to learn not to."

Mr Samura said that when passengers on his flight eventually got to the immigration desks they were given the option of filling in a questionnaire and being screened, or simply going through.

[JeremyR]

Libertarians are far too sophisticated to worry about ebola. I mean, you have a greater chance of getting hit by lightning.

Who needs to screen passengers or ban travel? Let in every sick person...