Are L.A. School Cops 'Protecting the Children' With Grenade Launchers?


The mission of the Los Angeles School Police Department is "protecting the children" and "providing a safe and tranquil environment in which the educational process can take place." That doesn't seem to overlap much with the mission of the 1033 Program – the Defense Department's (DoD) way of selling off excess military gear – which places a "special emphasis" on providing weapons to domestic law enforcement agencies to engage in "counter-drug and counter-terrorism" activity.
But, hey, how could the the Los Angeles School Police Department turn down a grenade launcher … or three.
MuckRock, an organization that specializes in freedom of information requests, has been diligently building a database of police militarization information, and highlighted L.A.'s new toys in a blog post on Monday.
Grenade launchers given to schools are typically converted to fire less-than-lethal rounds.
The L.A. school cops also have a mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle (MRAP), a piece of equipment that often weighs upwards of 14 tons and was designed to fight asymmetrical warfare against Iraqi insurgents, not provide backup during study period patrol. Los Angeles school officers also have 61 M-16 rifles, presumably to prevent food fights from breaking out. The MRAP is worth $733,000 and each rifle is worth $499, but the DoD gives equipment away for the price of shipping.
L.A. cops aren't the only ones with MRAPs this back to school season. The San Diego Unified School District has one, too. Oakland got stuck with a "tactical" utility truck.
"We recognize the public concern over perceived 'militarization of law enforcement,' but nothing could be further from the truth for School Police," Capt. Joseph Florentino of the San Diego district told NBC yesterday. Apparently, his department is converting it to a "victim rescue vehicle" that will "be designed for us to get into any hostile situation and pull kids out."
NPR notes that since the 1033 Program began in 2006, the federal government has given cops nearly 80,000 rifles, 12,000 bayonets, and $3.6 million worth of "deception equipment," a.k.a. camoflauge.
Despite the sweet potential field trips kids could take in Florentino's new ride, lawmakers are now questioning whether it's such a good idea to arm cops to the teeth. According to an Associated Press report yesterday, members of Congress are "considering doing more to monitor and hold accountable police departments across the United States that obtain sophisticated military equipment from the federal government." It's a step in the right direction.
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12,000 bayonets
Come the fuck on. I would wager heavily (and I don't gamble!) that 10,000+ of those are now personal possessions of the cops.
"Hey Sarge, we should bayonet charge that hostage situation!" Yeah. Right.
Maybe the Army also issued them 1,000,000 MREs and they needed something to open them with?
Put them in prison menus, at least until the ACLU stops you from such cruel and unusual practices.
I LIKED MREs! They got better a few years into use.
THAT IS WHAT YOUR TEETH ARE FOR!
Grenade launchers given to schools are typically converted to fire less-than-lethal rounds.
And at most seven before reloading?
I don't understand what "converted" means. The grenade launchers I used in the military threw grenades. Some exploded, some burned or smoked, and some spewed CS gas.
I'm not sure how you could change a grenade launcher to still fire the "less-than-lethal rounds" but not lethal ones.
They totes promised not to use willie-pete on the children?
But it sticks so well!
"...because napalm sticks to kids!"
/old jody
Well, that brought back some memories...
Cynical Rich notes that "conversion" does not imply inability to also fire lthal rounds.
They really need m-30s.
"I don't understand what"converted"means."
Not positive I'm guessing they change out the 40mm tubes for 37mm.
37mm instead of 40mm rounds?
Yeah, I dunno.
Yeah, I kinda tapped the brakes on both "typically" and "converted".
I'm trying to imagine why it should ever be legal for a PD to have killin' grenades.
Paint a Lenco Bearcat yellow and black and it looks just like a shortbus.
lawmakers are now questioning whether it's such a good idea to arm cops to the teeth. According to an Associated Press report yesterday, members of Congress are "considering doing more to monitor and hold accountable police departments across the United States that obtain sophisticated military equipment from the federal government." It's a step in the right direction.
IOW, what they are going to do about this is exactly the same thing they have done concerning the NSA's mass spying on all American citizens, effectively nothing.
I'm assuming our DoD also wanted town police departments in Iraq to be armed to the teeth like military units. I then assume the existing police thought it was an insane idea but new police recruits thought it was a swell idea.
The sane ones left the LA area police departments long ago.
M16 is only worth $499? I don't think so.
Maybe when you buy in bulk.
Less than that I would guess. And they are probably used.
Minus about a grand of red tape and overhead for a gun dealer and yeah that's about right.
Yeah, "worth" really isn't the right word. They may have cost the gov't $499, but they're worth a lot more in the current market. I glanced through the 1033 spreadsheet and I'm pretty sure that this is a reference to M16A1's. So, is $499 the price when the Army bought them 40 years ago?
My thoughts precisely. Hell, even an AR for $499 is a fucking steal.
Well, and NFA weapon. If it was manufactured after 1986, it's "worth" nothing on the civilian market, other than a Waco or Ruby Ridge type visit from the Feds.
Where the hell have I been and when did it become SOP for school districts to have their own Police departments?
Danced-With-Trolls posted a couple of weeks ago:
Oakland got stuck with a "tactical" utility truck.
AKA, a Toyota with an M60 mounted in the bed. Complete with two Somali insurgents.
Complete with two Somali insurgents.
So you KNOW it's offroad capable.
Imported from Minneapolis. 😀
perceived 'militarization of law enforcement,' but nothing could be further from the truth for School Police,
Perceived. So, if I buy military-style rifles, I can refer to Nancy Pelosi's hyperventilating as 'perceived'.
NPR notes that since the 1033 Program began in 2006, the federal government has given cops nearly 80,000 rifles, 12,000 bayonets
I wonder if the American public will finally get hip to what's going on with the public sector when you hear "Fix bayonets!" right before a regulatory inspection?
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They are going to protect the shit out of those kids.
The place claymores and bouncing betties out side of exits to make sure kids don't cut class.
When I visited Jamaica on a mission trip last summer I never saw a single police car or officer What they had instead was private security and the beautiful thing about that was if you were not on their private property they had no power over you. Obviously that is a developing Country and crime there is still a real issue but I just think that would be a great solution to our police problems.