Ukrainian President Announces Creation of New National Guard — Ukraine Update
"to protect the country and citizens against all criminals, external and internal aggression."
UPDATE (11:23a.m. ET 3/11/2014): Ukrainian President Oleksandr Turchynov has declared the creation of a national guard, which will be deployed with Ukrainian armed forces in order "to protect the country and citizens against all criminals, external and internal aggression."
Keep up with Reason's analysis of actions in Ukraine: Read our latest writing.
UPDATE (8:59a.m. ET 3/11/2014): All flights to the airport in Simferopol, except for those coming in from Moscow, have been suspended.
UPDATE (7:46a.m. ET 3/11/2014): Secretary of State John Kerry has rejected an offer to hold talkswith Russian President Vladimir Putin on the crisis in Ukraine.
UPDATE (6:05p.m. ET 3/10/2014): Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has outlined how he would handle Putin in the current crisis, saying that "Russia's president should be isolated for his actions."
UPDATE (5:59p.m. ET 3/10/2014): The Obama administration is looking to get China to back its efforts to isolate Russia amid the onging crisis in Ukraine.
UPDATE (4:51p.m. ET 3/10/2014): British British Energy Secretary Ed Davey has said that British utility companies should not exploit the crisis in Ukraine in order to raise prices.
UPDATE (4:27p.m. ET 3/10/2014): Ukraine has begun military drills as Russia strengthens its position in Crimea.
UPDATE (2:35p.m. ET 3/10/2014): Director of National Intelligence James Clapper claims that U.S. intelligence did not fail before the Russia invasion of Crimea.
UPDATE (10:44 a.m. ET 3/10/2014): The Kremlin says it is concerned about "lawlessness" by far-right activits in the east of Ukraine, something the Ukrainian government is worried could be a prelude to Russian military intervention.
UPDATE (8:51 a.m. ET 3/10/2014): In an op-ed for Time magazine, Rand Paul wrote that he believes Russia invaded Ukraine in part because it didn't feel threatened by the U.S., and that were he president he wouldn't have allowed it to happen. He stressed, nevertheless, that he did not support military intervention in Ukraine.
UPDATE (5:40 p.m. ET 3/9/2014): Former Defense Secretary Bob Gates told Fox News Sunday he doesn't believe Russia will let Crimea slip out of its hands.
UPDATE (12:17 p.m. ET 3/8/2014): Presumably pro-Russian militants fired warning shots at international monitors invited to Crimea by Kiev. The monitors have tried and failed to enter Crimea twice before.
UPDATE (7:04 p.m. ET 3/7/2014): A stand-off between a pro-Russia armed group and Ukrainian soldiers at a base in Crimea reportedly ended without incident.
UPDATE (5:49 p.m. ET 3/7/2014): Russian lawmakers have pledged to welcome Crimea into Russia if a planned referendum approves the move.
UPDATE (5:11 p.m. ET 3/7/14): The United Nations expressed concern over decisions being made "in the heat of the moment" in Crimea, which is planning to vote on joining Russia next week. The interim Ukrainian president said he cancelled that referendum.
UPDATE (3:10 p.m. ET, 3/7/14): Russian troopsreportedly attacked a Ukrainian military base a few miles from the Ukrainian port city of Sevastopol.
UPDATE (12:24 p.m. ET, 3/7/14): Russia has announced that it has begun air defense drills 280 miles east of the Ukrainian border.
UPDATE (9:54 a.m. ET, 3/7/14): The guided-missile destroyer USS Truxtun is in the Black Sea.
UPDATE (7:35 a.m. ET, 3/7/14): President Obama has urged Russian President Vladimir Putin to seek a diplomatic solution to the crisis in Crimea.
UPDATE (4:30 p.m. ET, 3/6/14): The US sent six fighter jets to join NATO patrols over Baltic countries and will send additional jets and troops to Poland for a training exercise next week.
UPDATE (2:55 p.m. ET, 3/6/14): Interpol has received a request by Ukrainian authorities to arrest ousted president Viktor Yanukovych.
UPDATE (1:25 p.m. ET, 3/6/14): In a White House speech, President Barack Obama said that new economic sanctions against Russia will "impose a cost" for their intervention in Ukriane and opposed a referendum in Crimea to break away from Ukraine and join Russia.
UPDATE (1:09 p.m. ET 3/6/14): The interim president of Ukraine is reportedly trying to block a referendum in Crimea on whether the region should join Russia, and is beginning to dismiss local lawmakers.
UPDATE (10:01 a.m. ET 3/6/14): President Obama is headed to South Florida to talk at a local school about education and the economy. He intended to spend the weekend in the area with his family, but the White House says those plans may be nixed because of the ongoing crisis in Ukraine.
UPDATE (9:10 a.m. ET 3/6/14): The White House plans to impose sanctions on Russian and Ukrainian officials and others it believes are responsible for the crisis in Ukraine.
UPDATE (8:25 a.m. ET 3/6/14): The Crimean parliament voted to secede and to join Russia. The parliament also set up a vote for March 16 on the question. The national Ukrainian government says secession requires the whole country's approval, not just a region's.
UPDATE (6:22 p.m. ET, 3/5/14): Liz Wahl has quit RT, the network funded by the Russian government, live on air saying, "I cannot be part of a network funded by the Russian government that whitewashes the actions of Putin."
UPDATE (5:33 p.m. ET, 3/5/14): Hilary Clinton is standing by a comment she made comparing Russia and the Nazis, saying:
What I said yesterday is that the claims by [Russian] President [Vladimir] Putin and other Russians that they had to go into Crimea, maybe further into eastern Ukraine because they had to protect Russian minorities, that is reminiscent of claims made back in the 1930s.
UPDATE (4:15 p.m. ET, 3/5/14): Secretary of State John Kerry has said that foreign ministers have agreed to further talks "in the coming days."
UPDATE (2:30 p.m. ET, 3/5/14): House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) wants the Obama administration to export more natural in response to the ongoing crisis in Ukraine.
UPDATE (2:24 p.m. ET, 3/5/14): Russian lawmakers are drafting legislation that would allow Russia to confiscate American and European assets in the wake of possible sanctions.
UPDATE (2:10 p.m. ET, 3/5/14): The Pentagon will boost training with Poland's air force and increasing NATO air polciing in the Baltics amid the ongoing crisis in Ukraine.
UPDATE (12:38 p.m. ET, 3/5/14): British Prime Minister David Cameron condemned Russian action in Ukraine during Prime Minister's Questions in Parliament.
UPDATE (8:44 a.m. ET, 3/5/14): In ongoing regional talks about Ukraine, which John Kerry is set to join, Russia's foreign minister claimed unmarked soldiers in Crimea were "self-defense" units over which his country had no control.
UPDATE (8:00 a.m. ET, 3/5/14): The E.U is planning on sending $15 billion in loans and grants to Ukraine over the next few years.
UPDATE (3:20 p.m. ET, 3/4/14): The Russian military has tested an intercontinental ballistic missile near the Caspian Sea. It informed the United States of the launch as an arms treaty requires.
UPDATE (12:10 p.m. ET, 3/4/14): President Obama says there is a "strong belief" in the international community that Russia's recent actions violate international law.
UPDATE (10:47 a.m. ET, 3/4/14): Russian and Ukrainian ministers have begun talks. The move was announced after Secretary of State John Kerry arrived in Kiev.
UPDATE (9:52 ET, 3/4/14): Russian soldiers have fired warning shots at hundreds of unarmed Ukrainian troops in Crimea, who were marching on the seized airbase in Belbek.
UPDATE (9:23 a.m. ET, 3/4/14): NATO will hold talks on the situation in Ukraine tomorrow.
UPDATE (8:03 a.m. ET, 3/4/14): In his first public statement since the Crimea crisis began Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia reserves the right to use "all means" to protect the interests of citizens living in eastern Ukraine and that there are "nationalists" and "anti-Semites" in the streets of Kiev.
UPDATE (5:00 p.m. ET, 3/3/14): Russia's ambassador to the United Nations claims that fugitive Ukraine President Viktor Yanuckovych asked for Russian military to intervene in the country after fleeing the state.
UPDATE (3:45 p.m. ET, 3/3/14): President Barack Obama said Russia is in violation of international law by its actions in Urkaine and said he was looking at economic and diplomatic measures to "isolate" Russia should they not pull back.
UPDATE (2:30 p.m. ET, 3/3/14): Russian officials say they have not given Ukrainian forces in Crimea a deadline to surrender tonight or face assault, contradicting previous reports.
UPDATE (1:30 p.m. ET, 3/3/14): Stock markets around the world have responded negatively to Russia's actions in Urkaine.
In addition, the United States announced it would not send a delegation to the Sochi Paralympics as a form of boycott, though athletes will still compete.
UPDATE (11:11 a.m. ET, 3/3/14): Russia has given Ukrainian forces in Crimea until 0300 GMT (2200 ET) to surrender or face attack.
UPDATE (10:12 a.m. ET, 3/3/14): The U.K. will not take part in G8 preparatory talks because of the presence of Russian troops in Crimea. British ministers will not attend the upcoming Paralympic Games in Sochi.
UPDATE (7:44 a.m. ET, 3/3/14): Russia says its troops will stay in Ukraine until the political situation has been "normalized." Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov claims that "ultra-nationalists" threaten the interests of Russians and Russian speakers in the region.
UPDATE (4:45 p.m. ET, 3/2/14): Secretary of State John Kerry will visit Ukraine on Tuesday.
UPDATE (9:21 a.m. ET, 3/2/14): Ukraine has ordered its military to mobilize. Russian troops are reportedly digging trenches on the Crimean border.
UPDATE (5:45 p.m. ET, 3/1/14): The White House and the Kremlin have confirmed that President Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin discussed the crisis in Ukraine today.
UPDATE (2 P.M. ET, 3/1/14): Read Reason's Zenon Evans on the most recent developments here.
UPDATE (10:04 a.m. ET, 3/1/14): The upper house of the Russian parliament has backed the use of military force in Ukraine.
UPDATE (9:24 a.m. ET, 3/1/14): Russian President Vladimir Putin has asked the upper house of parliament to approve of the use of Russian troops in Ukraine.
UPDATE (6:15 p.m. ET, 2/28/14): Sen. Rand Paul released a statement also warning Russia not to interfere in Ukraine's sovereignty, saying "Russia, which has begun to experience the benefits of expanded trade with World Trade Organization accession, should think long and hard about honoring their treaty obligations and fostering the stability that creates prosperity for its citizens."
UPDATE (5:20 p.m. ET 2/28/14): In a prepared statement, President Barack Obama said the United States was "deeply concerned" about Russian intervention in Ukraine and that there would be "costs" for Russian military intervention there.
UPDATE (1:50 p.m. ET, 2/28/14): Russia's foreign ministry said the country has moved troops into Ukraine into the Crimean area in order to protect its fleet in the Black Sea.
UPDATE (1:30 p.m. ET, 2/28/14): A leader of a biker gang that President Vladimir Putin regularly rides with said his group is heading to Ukraine to back pro-Russia protests.
UPDATE (9:07a.m. ET, 2/28/14): Yanukovych says that military action is unacceptable and that he will not be seeking Russia's support.
UPDATE (8:33a.m. ET, 2/28/14): Ousted Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has vowed to fight for Ukraine and has described new Ukrainian officials as "pro-fascist thugs" in a press conference today.
UPDATE (8:01a.m. ET, 2/28/14): Armed men with military uniforms have been stationed at airports in Crimea, a region of Ukraine where there have recently been clashes between pro-Russian and pro-Western groups.
According to The New York Times, the men cannot be identified by their uniforms:
They were dressed in camouflage and carrying assault rifles, but their military uniforms bore no insignia. It was not clear who they were and they declined to answer questions.
Ukrainian Interior Minister Arsen Avakov has accused Russian forces of occupying the airport in the Crimean city of Sevastopol.
The Associated Press has tweeted that the Ukraine's State Border Guard say that a coast guard base is surrounded by Russian marines.
UPDATE (1:02p.m. ET, 2/27/14): Russia has indicated via a foreign ministry spokesperson, that Russia is ready to "interact" with other countries on the situation in Ukraine, but that any agreements had to "take the interests of the entire Ukrainian people into account."
UPDATE (11:29a.m. ET, 2/27/14):Former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych has turned to Russia for protection and also claims he remains the legitimate leader of the country
UPDATE:Protests and counter-protests continue in Crimea, the southern-most region of Ukraine, where former Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych is believed to have fled. Local media reports secession is on the agenda in the region, while Russian president Vladimir Putin has put troops in western Russia, near the Ukrainian border, on alert.
How quickly things can turn around. Euromaidan protests began in Ukraine last November, after President Viktor Yanukovych suspended talks with the European Union about a closer relationship. On Friday, the president and opposition leaders struck a deal to end the protests; parliament voted to immediately stop violence against protesters and to limit presidential power, while the president agreed to early elections. While the president denied that he was resigning, parliament voted to remove Yanukovych and hold elections in May. Now, an arrest warrant has been issued for Yanukovych, according to the country's new interior minister.
Zenon Evans writes that protests were "fueled by a demographic-defying desire for democracy." Ukraine has seen protests before. In fact, a former prime minister who won on a wave created by protests a decade ago, but was later jailed, was also released this weekend. This round of protests were birthed by disagreement over whether Ukraine should build stronger ties with Russia or the European Union, reflecting a division by West and East. How that specific political debate is resolved remains to be seen.
Read more Reason on the Ukraine here and check this 24/7 post for more updates on the situation.
UPDATE: The now former Ukrainian president has fled to Crimea, and there are fears he may be trying to escape to Russia by yacht. He is on the country's most wanted list.
UPDATE: Ukraine's interim leders say they need a $35 billion cash infusion over two years to avoid default.
UPDATE: Interim Ukrainian President Olexander Turchynov has warned of the risks of separatism following the removal of former President Viktor Yanukovych.
UPDATE: The Ukrainian parliament has voted for former President Viktor Yanukovych to be tried at the International Criminal Court. Yanukovych is believed to be in Crimea.
UPDATE (1:41 p.m. ET 2/26/14): Ukrainian protest leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk has been nominated to lead the government until presidential elections are held in May.
UPDATE (4:46 p.m. ET 2/26/14): Secretary of State John Kerry says the U.S. is planning to give Ukraine $1 billion in loan guarantees.
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Ukraine leaves the Russian sphere with its Russian money in favor of the European Union sphere with its EU and American money. Wait!
Greece is part of the EU. Greece is bankrupt. As part of the EU, Greece will need to borrow money from Germany in order to support Ukraine. Ireland is similar. Italy, Portugal, Spain ... oh well, you get the idea.
Not to fear. The USA will come to the economic rescue, always happy to give away money to ingrates. Wait!
Didn't Rep. John Boehner say recently of the USA, "We're broke!"? So, the USA will borrow more money from China, its enemy, to support Ukraine.
One supposes the scheme makes sense to politicians and bureaucrats. Does it make sense to you (www.nationonfire.com)?
US could just mind it's own fucking business for once? Maybe let the euros and asians figure this shit out? Ukraine was the best Risk territory.
I don't know. Ukraine was at best an end game territory. Europe as a whole was generally the last continent to be overtaken in pretty much any Risk game I ever played.
I'm with you. I like to put Australia at my back, leaving only one front to defend/attack from.
"The Ukraine is weak!"
http://shirtoid.com/wp-content.....s-weak.jpg
Risk was a short bus game. After I turned 5 I played Axis and Allies
No, I don't get the picture. Italy won't borrow from Germany. In case you haven't noticed, among the nations you mentioned, Italy is G8 economy with a strong manufacturing and industrial base. In this way, it's no different than France who has its own debt problems; or the UK for that matter.
What does make it interesting are all those Gazprom-sponsored facilities which just happen to be in the same place where all those poor defenseless ethnic Russians live.
"UPDATE: Ukraine's interim leders say they need a $35 billion cash infusion over two years to avoid default."
Hey, Ms. Merkle!
Free brides for everyone!
Hell, I'd kick in for that kickstarter.
As far as a country goes, 35 billion over two years isn't that much. Maybe they should try kickstarter.
Could we form a Libertopia Kickstarter?
In reality how much would starting a country cost?
Is it possible to accomplish?
Sure, if by "democracy" you mean employment of pressure by large groups of people in the streets to force a democratically elected leader to reverse a decision that is entrusted by the country's laws and constitution to his discretion. I would have thought that this really was a case where "elections have consequences." Apparently I was mistaken.
"Kerry: US Planning To Give Ukraine $1 Billion in Loan Guarantees"
How about instead we just send Putin a note saying "NEEEENER!"
They must have a favorable position on global.... Errr.. Climate change... Sorry I guess we can't call it global warming if it's fucking 20 degrees out and only a few days away from March...
Well now it is March and it's still 20 degrees.
AGF is dead.
AGF=AGW
/doh
20 degrees nice! it hasn't gotten that high here since October
Giving them money is the gentlemanly thing to do after having helped inspire the revolt.
Don't worry, our interference will have no blowback from either the Russians or Ukrainians.
Thank Satan we have a peace loving liberal in office!
triclops|2.27.14 @ 12:11AM|#
"Giving them money is the gentlemanly thing to do after having helped inspire the revolt."
I agree, and I believe Kerry can easily afford it.
I'm really pleased President Obama is stepping up to the plate and doing something important, giving away more of our money.
$1 billion!! Wow!! That'll solve all the problems.
President Putin has a biker gang named "Night Wolves" who will ride to Ukraine for the sake of Russia. And look, Putin himself is on the motorcycle.
What support group or last line of defense does Obama have, in case of a violent coup? "The League of Future Canadians"?
Bicycle fags of Chi town doesn't sound nearly as cool as night wolves
How come Putin must ask Parliament while Obama can just roll and bomb?
I was wondering the same fucking thing
The Ukraine situation is one that Americans had better start looking at closely.
Because it can happen right here in the United States. The problem with Americans is they haven't really had a major problem on a long term basis since WW II. Post WW II we have had it too easy. We can no longer comprehend a Great Depression.
What exactly is the difference in the genetics of the Ukraine people and ours? Nothing.
We have an open border problem that is not being addressed. And on top of that we are spending ever more money to insure illegal aliens have health care.Complete anti reason that makes sense only to the Progressive. Followed blindly by the GOP that attempts to convince us that if "this time we vote them in they will do the right thing." As they have stated since 2000. And have yet to come through.
We have an entitlement class?growing. An attitude that the producer must pay for the non producer. Example? ACA. One man pays more so another pays less?or not at all. And it is unsustainable.
I wrote in fiction how we will collapse. It's not fiction. It is a fact. I'm sorry if it is an uncomfortable fact but you cannot have a combination of the above factors and stay resilient as a nation.
So take a good look at the Ukraine. All you need is English subtitles and you'll have the same here one day.
Charles Hurst. Author of THE SECOND FALL. An offbeat story of Armageddon. And creator of THE RUNNINGWOLF EZINE
Update: Obama is now meeting with Putin. They're doing what they do best, lying to each other.
http://twitter.com/NolteNC/sta.....88/photo/1
"Ukraine has ordered its military to mobilize. Russian troops are reportedly digging trenches on the Crimean border."
2014
Trench warfare
This is getting ridiculous.
And where are the Nazis everybody is talking about? Are we going to see some cool uniforms again?
Well, Putin did get authorization to use Russian ground forces to defend ethnic Russians against Ukrainian racists or something. I seem to recall someone else who used protecting people with common ethnic ties as an excuse to invade other countries...who was that guy...tip of my toungue...
Teddy Roosevelt?
Oleh Tyahnybok?
Woodrow Wilson
Another big war in Europe? If so, it won't be the last.
Bad enough with the saber rattling going on in the Pacific. People won't have time to worry about "cool uniforms" in WW3.
"2014
Trench warfare"
Digging trenches is a common practice for all infantry units and is not imply "Trench warfare".
That should read "does not imply "Trench warfare"."
So what do we have? We have a tyrannical mindset in government. We have a failed economy and dismal outlook for the future in the Ukraine. We have a government that has no intention of advocating freedom but only wishes to remain in power. We have multicultural clash among peoples' of different origins?one being favored over another.
And what do we have here in the United States? We have an economy that
is on the brink of failing and is constantly propped up by continued deficit spending.We have multicultural clash.We have a corrupt government on both parties.
Sure, we are going to be just fine. It's all tin foil I know. I'm
blowing the economic debt way out of proportion aren't I, Mr Progressive.Right. The fact that two similar situations will produce the same results is ludicrous I'm sure. My prophetic fiction based on history is way off. What is history anyway in terms of enlightenment of the present? Even though that enlightenment is based on the exact history of failure and collapse.
Stay tuned Kiev. You might very well be watching the United States on
your television soon.
Charles Hurst. Author of THE SECOND FALL. An offbeat story of Armageddon. And creator of THE RUNNINGWOLF EZINE.
Personally, I prefer Frank Miller's "Give Me Liberty"
Think of eastern europe/eurasia as a bunch of "Sudetenland"s. Take any country next to Russia, allow divisions between pro-Russian elements (just like German speaking Czechs) and distinctly pro-Western (or at least anti-Russian) elements to fester (fomenting armed conflict tends to do that), and the big power in the neighborhood, Russia (just like Germany 60 years ago) eventually takes what it wants after the dust clears. Seems to me that these little conflicts would eventually settle themselves if there wasn't a 900 lb gorilla next door. But it doesn't help that the history of Russia (over the last millennium at least) is a history of authoritarianism. Don't think anything will change for people over there until Russia disintegrates just like the rest of the Soviet Union. Maybe Putin's bunch sees China as the future of Russia, but I don't think Russia has a future in its present form.
Looks to me like the Russians have secured Crimea without firing a shot. Admiral Berezovsky wasn't head of Ukraine's navy for a whole day before swearing allegiance to the regional government, as whole units of Ukrainian personnel on the peninsula are also reportedly doing.
From your article:
Ihor Tenyukh is a member of Svoboda Party. Svoboda is National Socialist. No, i'm not Godwinning. Prior to marketing makeover, their actual name was Social-National Party of Ukraine, with Wolfsangel Neo-Nazi logo and everything.
Basically, currently Ukrainian Defense Forces are under command of anti-Russian Nationalists... And people act surprised when Russians want nothing to do with opposition govenment.
I was just at HuffPo for a few minutes, which is about as much as I can take. It's amazing how many of that commentariat still believe Obama can do no wrong on any front, that there can't possibly be neoconservative elements driving foreign policy, and we'd be out of our minds to accuse Hillary of practically being a neocon, despite the very simple deduction that the evidence invites.
Then I went to Slate, which in recent months has somehow become worse, by an order of magnitude, than we ever could have predicted, apparently as a means to compete with Salon, ThinkProgress, what have you. Anyone who seriously thinks Crimea will be "Putin's Waterloo" is wasting good drugs that could have been taken by someone more deserving.
Well, on ThinkProgress they have a helpful list of "5 Steps Government Officials Are Considering To Deal With The Situation In Ukraine" aka. "5 ways to be a neocon and randomly alienate people while hectoring like a schoolmaster".
I especially liked "Expanding and strengthening NATO". Yup, we gonna move right up the bear's nose. That's gonna teach him.
I made the mistake of commenting at The American Interest, simply by asking, "who are our 'enemies?' Are the fascists in Kiev our 'friends?'" One person said, "they're not fascists, Obama thinks we're the fascists," and another said "you don't even know the meaning of fascist." Fucking retards. I did tell the first one to look up Right Sektor and Svoboda, if they can be so moved.
I hope after they have elections again it'll get better... But for now, i understand why Russians are running scared. It has nothing to do with EU, contrary to media reports. EU wouldn't move against Russian interests, EU was working fine with Russians for a long time.
Western Ukrainian Nationalists on the other hand? That's different. Given their past history, ethnic minorities (not just Russians), have a good reason to be concerned.
But frankly, who cares about Right Sektor and Liberty?
Seems like there are no good guys here.
Formerly: Thug in charge, close to Russia. That's bad.
Then something happens.
Now: Thug in charge (maybe), financed by Kerry (possibly). Also bad.
Maybe Ukraine should deal with all of that. Don't we have an Iraq/Afghanistan to look after?
John Kerry says U.S. is considering sanctions against Russia if they keep this up. I'm wondering what would happen if we implement sanctions on a nation that can actually retaliate. Russia isn't like North Korea or Iran, you know. It's a big piece of land that's near areas that are of interest to us.
It's not like Obama has already alienated FRIENDS by spying on them and strip searching foreign diplomats.
It is also very close to certain NATO activities on the Eurasian mainland. And Russian leaders play Great Games a lot better than our leaders, which have been genetically selected for ADHD, low IQ and autism.
And Russia's got some business deals that will screw the EU if they're interrupted.
It's likely all show on Putin's part. Homophobia being so 2013 he needs a new way of distracting Russians from the fact that they live in a 3rd world shithole.
Never underestimate Putin's popularity.
Stalker, what happened in Ukraine almost happened to Putin around 2006. It's at that point that all the "propaganda" laws started popping up. All of a sudden, the guy who almost got kicked out on his ass was Russia's exalted moral guardian. Maybe it's just a co-incidence...
I know, I know.
Have we formally recognized the Kiev regime now?
Secretary of State John Kerry must be really very brave or is convinced that Benghazi was just a fluke.
I watched Rocky 4 in the first year I moved to the United States. It was one of those "America FTW" movies that reassured me that I was in a superpower nation.
So of course this isn't Rocky 4, Mr. Kerry. Ivan Drago could beat the living snot out of the sorry American boxers. And the libertarians are going to stop the Star Wars program and any economic sanctions.
Let's see him travel to Crimea and try using words like "invasion" and "occupation." Maybe he can get a few photos in.
"As the far right calls for violence in social networks continue, Crimean locals give out sandwiches and tea, sing songs and pose for photos with self-defense forces."
Those far right guys strike again.
Those are some creepy propaganda photos. Particularly the soldier with the "loaded" Pecheneg light machine gun.
You don't like the girl in heels?
Those are some creepy propaganda photos.
Frankly better than lovely Private what's-her-name, previously lost in Iraq, being hugged by rancid Bushian Bureaucrats.
Ivan Drago had nothing on Nikolai Valuev.
They need 35 billion so the new "leaders" can build their own estates.
"UPDATE (3:45 p.m. ET, 3/3/14): President Barack Obama said Russia is in violation of international law..."
Yeah, and Obama's a pathological liar, so that about evens things up.
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Now I would feel better about this if we had a patriotic government as we have stood against tyranny before. But we don't anymore. We have a government and Oval Office that is just as intent to seize power as Putin's intent.
Both parties are allowing a 17 trillion dollar debt to go unresolved. We are only spending more. You want to accuse me of wearing the tinfoil hat? Then you tell me Mr. Progressive how we will continue to further exacerbate the debt which is already most likely non resolvable and things will turn out just fine in the end?
When we do finally collapse as the laws of economics state we must then what happens? Here is a test case to look at. Katrina. And they seized guns from the law abiding.
Power is power. It doesn't really matter whether it is from another country in Crimea or our own federal government crossing into Wyoming. I predicted what will happen in my own fiction. Fiction based on what has already happened. In history. And history is a sage that tends to repeat itself. So do I think we will have World War III to save the world from tyranny starting in Crimea? No. I think across the world it will be free peoples fighting their own governments for the natural right of freedom. And I think we are
going to see that strife in America very soon.
Charles Hurst. Author of THE SECOND FALL. An offbeat story of Armageddon. And creator of THE RUNNINGWOLF EZINE
Just a thought.
Does the port of Crimea have strategic significance to American LNG manufacturing for eastern European export?
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So the US can invade two different middle eastern countries, one for oil, the other for opium, and its totally fine, but when Russia sends troops to Ukraine ON REQUEST FROM ITS PRESIDENT to protect Eastern Ukrainians from the violent, literal Neo-Nazi revolutionaries marching in the streets, its a "violation of international law"?? Explain that
"So the US can invade two different middle eastern countries, one for oil, the other for opium"
Come on.
Unless Boehner is suggesting we subsidize those gas exports, I don't see how this can possibly undercut the Russians. Didn't he just say, "we're broke?"
Really?
Rand Paul:
http://original.antiwar.com/pa.....d-ukraine/
The House voted overwhelmingly last week to provide $1 billion in loan guarantees to Ukraine. That is just the beginning, you can be sure. But let's be clear: this is not money for the population of that impoverished country. The Administration is sending a billion dollars from US taxpayers to wealthy international bankers who hold Ukrainian debt. It is an international bank bailout, not aid to Ukrainians. And despite the escalating anti-Russia rhetoric, ironically some of that money will likely go to Russia for Ukraine's two billion dollar unpaid gas bill!
Just joking. It was Ron Paul.
Oh no, America's European allies and even democrats not down with sanctions.
http://www.latimes.com/world/l.....z2v80OLO1j
Boy, I hope secretary of state John Kerry has more tricks up his sleeve.
At this rate, Jonah Goldberg's going to buy a vacation home thanks to Hillary's continued comparison of the "far-right" socialists with the "far-left" socialists.
Perhaps soon, it will no longer be my mission alone to warn everyone that Hillary is the biggest neocon of all.
H.C. is just another career and habitual political power broker who is addicted to all of the perks and publicity (plus money) that being a politician provide. She and B .C will be around for years to come (along with other politicians) still boring us and manipulating us with the same b s that all career politicians do. What's new?
Rhineland 1935?
About a year from now Russia will still have the Crimea which belongs to Russia historically. They (Russia) might even hold all or most of the Ukraine which also has centuries of racial and ethnic ties to Russia, not to mention those historical ties as part of the Russian Empire long, long before Putin was born and even longer before the Communists were ever around. I suspect that most Americans who have a short attention span anyway, much less any sense of history, will probably be lapping up whatever thrill the media is providing for them a year from now. If there is no "crisis" somewhere, we can all be sure that the politicians and the media will invent one for the masses. History (and b s) marches on doesn't it?
He's just trying to preserve the (soviet) union.
A year from now, they'll be complaining most loudly about Republican majorities in both houses of Congress, and amplifying every social issue they can think of because 2016. I don't necessarily desire this scenario, but Democrats are certainly inviting it.
Western media did eventually get around to more truthful reporting about FSR Georgia, about a month after things went down, but by the time the OSCE report came out, it was a page 3 story. Probably by this summer, they and the pundit class will be trying to quietly walk away from the whole Ukraine thing, rather than own up to how wrong they've all been.
It actually belongs to Turkey historically. I don't see anybody clamoring to give it back to Ankara, though...
"President Obama is headed to South Florida to talk at a local school about education and the economy."
Boy, there's a waste of oxygen. Maybe he could just put a sock in it.
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Now let's look at another empire. I've written about this in fiction. The problem with our attitude in the good old U.S. is we seem to think we cannot fall. We haven't even been a nation for three hundred years. And let's compare us to the Ukraine now. We have economic instability. Our economy, the stock indexes have been falsely inflated for years. We are not recovering.
There are theorists that see a breaking of the capitalistic United States like the break up of the communist Soviet Union.People are already talking about that. The Northwest is beginning to have the attitude they would be well to be rid themselves of the rest of the immoral country. In my own works it was certain governors that used one asset to combat tyranny?the National Guard. Put a few states' units together and suddenly you have a large force.
Barry sitting in the Oval Office might want to stop threatening Putin and pay close attention to what happens when a people have had enough of government corruption over in the Ukraine. Because the last I heard the Ukrainie's genetic DNA isn't any different than ours. And unlike the Ukraine we have this little thing called the Second Amendment. And once invoked in mass numbers my fiction may indeed become a reality. For it was incomprehensible at one time to defy King George as well long ago.
Charles Hurst. Author of THE SECOND FALL. An offbeat story of Armageddon. And creator of THE RUNNINGWOLF EZINE
Edward Snowden stands with his patron and savior Vladimir Putin, the dictator of Russia.
Lyle|3.8.14 @ 12:40AM|#
"Edward Snowden stands with his patron and savior Vladimir Putin, the dictator of Russia."
One of those names does not belong in the same post as the other two.
Oh, and Lyle? You're an idjit.
Sevo,
Which one? Didn't Edward Snowden choose to be harbored by Putin at Putin's behest?
The dictator Vladimir Putin is Edward Snowden's patron and savior.
"Sevo,
Which one? Didn't Edward Snowden choose to be harbored by Putin at Putin's behest?"
More like any port in a storm from my reading.
Haha... he chose to be safe harbored by the dictator Vladimir Putin.
What an idiot and fool Edward Snowden is. Time for him to come home and MLK up.
"Presumably pro-Russian militants fired warning shots at international monitors invited to Crimea by Kiev. The monitors have tried and failed to enter Crimea twice before."
I think the Euros should be quite concerned about that!
Indeed. They should have tried the backdoor first.
How exactly would Rand Paul propose to stop Russia from invading Crimea, Ukraine? Through economic sanctions or diplomatic pressure? Inquiring minds want to know.
I left a comment at the Time page to express my disappointment. Rand Paul, of all people, should be concerned that Kiev has been taken over by fascists and is on the road to ruin at the hands of EU bankers.
..."were he president he wouldn't have allowed it to happen"...
I guess he'd give Putin a wedgie?
Crimea is Russia's side yard, has a large Russian population, etc. I don't see how we could ever stop Russia doing whatever it wants there without serious military involvement. Putin knows that.
And last I checked, there has never been a grassroots clamoring to go to war with Russia over anything (or before that USSR).
"British Minister Says Utility Companies Should Not Exploit Ukraine Crisis"
And I'm sure this same twit is the first one to scream when fuel prices don't drop at the hint of crude price drops.
Some contend that most of the energy price uppage comes from the "green" UK-government-mandated part anyway...
Big surprise:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2.....our_bills/
The Obama administration is looking to get China to back its efforts to isolate Russia amid the onging crisis in Ukraine.
If there is a reaction face to this kind of QUALITY plan it must be trollface bending itself into a pretzel.
"Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) has outlined how he would handle Putin in the current crisis,"
Nothing wrong in the lot, but the econ sanctions aren't likely to have much of an effect and a lot of the other stuff requires Obo and the EUROs to grow some. Not going to happen.
FIFY, Rand. Haven't we had enough extra-Constitutional actions by the current dipshit?