Tonight on The Independents: The CBO vs. Obama, FLOTUS vs. Fat, Seinfeld's White Privilege, Limbaugh's Late Conversion, Paul Rieckhoff Talks Vets, Ben Shapiro Defends Anti-'Libertinism' Hoffman, and More

Before we get into tonight's episode of The Independents, here are two clips from last night featuring the man formerly known as Carlos Danger, Anthony Weiner:

You can see other past show segments at this link.

Tonight at 9 pm ET, 6 pm PT, on Fox Business Network: What does the first major long-term Congressional Budget Office projection in the Obamacare era tell us about the way that the Affordable Care Act was sold? As a great magazine once taught us, They Lied. Also, founder & CEO Paul Reickhoff of Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America will talk about the Veterans Administration's massive disability-claims backlog, and how the military industrial complex may yet demand that America builds tanks that the U.S. Army doesn't want.

Tonight's Party Panel, Juicy Pink Box lifestyle lesbian Jincey Lumpkin and Red Girls Salonista Dee Dee Benkie, will sink their choppers into the controversy over Jerry Seinfeld answering a question about comedian-diversity by saying, "You're funny, I'm interested. You're not funny, I'm not interested. And I have no interest in gender, or race, or anything like that." They'll also discuss whether Michelle Obama really deserves the praise her husband gave her recently for reducing childhood obesity, and just how much everything related to the Sochi Olympics will suck.

National Review contributor Ben Shapiro will come on to defend his claim that fake Hollywood libertarianism helped kill Philip Seymour Hoffman, Kmele Foster will decide whether he accepts Rush Limbaugh's apology to independents, and other potential topics will include John Kerry's new beard, BYU's bizarre new anti-masturbation video, and maybe the single-worst Obamacare enrollment video in the history of things.

Aftershow will be live-streamed on the website, and please send your tweets out to @IndependentsFBN, and some may be used on air.

Comments

[Dweebston]

I despise the term "FLOTUS." I despise it almost as much as I despise "POTUS."

[Agammamon]

I despise the term 'first lady'. She's not the first lady, she's simply the wife of the person we hired to run the executive branch, ie nobody special.

Its not even like she's the wife of your CO, where keeping her happy is important because it keeps him happy.

I could give a fuck what the *president* wants, let alone what she does.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Its not even like she's the wife of your CO, where keeping her happy is important because it keeps him happy.

That's a statement about the prevalence of the swinging lifestyle in the military, isn't it?

[Agammamon]

Nah, everyone knows the Navy is sodomy, rum, sodomy, the lash, and more sodomy.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I wouldn't mind the rum.

[Terr]

All or nothing, pal.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

"Ashore it's wine, women and song; aboard it's rum, bum and concertina."

[Killaz]

Never got that about supposedly fully heterosexual males isolated from the female half of the species. My hand or even a blistery hole in the wall will always be a better prospect that another dude.

[jesse.in.mb]

Eh, different cultures have different tolerances for behavior. From what I've read it wasn't until the '50s or '60s that getting a blowjob from a dude began to be considered just as gay as giving one, and in my experience European guys seem very enthusiastic about fucking trannies.

Different strokes for different broad swathes of folks.

[Killaz]

I'm just saying I couldn't even get it up for another guy's lips on my dick if I was hard up to bust a nut. I doubt that is cultural. Mom's best friends were mostly gay males who treated me well.

[jesse.in.mb]

Maybe, maybe not. I've been with guys who used to like twinks (skinny, hairless, boyish) when they were younger (the '90s) and now like guys more like me (hairy, beefy, manly). They see it as their tastes maturing but it's really because there's been a cultural shift toward that aesthetic being attractive. You can see the same thing with fatties and preying-mantis-like models. We can map over time changes in sexual attraction to body types as cultural conditions change.

You may have never been attracted to fatties even if you grew up on Samoa or Renaissance Europe, but it's much more likely that you would've been, or that you would've at least not found fatties repulsive.

[Killaz]

My attitudes about physical contact with other guys was likely formed during fistfights with older bullies, so my personal distaste comes from a revulsion formed around the culture of submission and domination. That to me is more psychological than cultural.

[jesse.in.mb]

Right, that's your individual experience placing you at a specific point in a broader cultural context.

Some of your stance on physical contact with men is colored, possibly subtly by the broader cultural trends, but I don't think that's absolutely determinative or else I would be a sad sack closet case. I'm just saying that in any given culture, at any given moment some behaviors are considered normal and some are considered abnormal and those things aren't fixed and we don't really realize how they shape our lives because they're just background noise.

Oral used to be considered way more scandalous (yay sodomy laws) than missionary, but now oral is considered tamer.

[Killaz]

Quite right. Rae Dawn Chong blowing a guy in Quest for Fire was much more scandalous than any missionary sex scene contemporaneous to it at that time in mainstream media. Though that was also the same era as The Devil in Mrs Jones where the title character blows a ventriloquist puppet.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Is it 'could' or 'couldn't' care less. I get confused.

[Rhywun]

I couldn't care less.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

This had better be more exciting than the Bill Nye /Ken Hamm debate on creationism

[Heroic Mulatto]

I'm sure those two will present their arguments with such rhetorical sophistication that we shall crown a new Demosthenes when it is all over.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Ms. Garrison: In the beginning, we were all fish. Okay? Swimming around in the water. And then one day a couple of fish had a retard baby, and the retard baby was different, so it got to live. So Retard Fish goes on to make more retard babies, and then one day, a retard baby fish crawled out of the ocean with its...

[she waves her left hand limply]

Ms. Garrison: ...mutant fish hands... and it had butt sex with a squirrel or something and made this.

[she points to a prehistoric mammal rodent]

Ms. Garrison: Retard frog-sqirrel, and then *that* had a retard baby which was a... monkey-fish-frog... And then this monkey-fish-frog had butt sex with that monkey, and that monkey had a mutant retard baby that screwed another monkey... and that made you!

[she faces the class, with the new girl among them looking around]
Ms. Garrison: So there you go! You're the retarded offspring of five monkeys having butt sex with a fish-squirrel! Congratulations!

[Killaz]

Bill Nye, the retard guy.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Here's the link.

[Heroic Mulatto]

No.

[JeremyR]

I find it very disturbing how science has become "Science", a religion complete with cult of personality types.

What happened to scientists actually doing science, instead of preaching about it?

[Agammamon]

That went away when they found out you could make more money preaching about it than doing it.

Incentives matter.

[Red Rocks Rockin]

That went away when they found out you could make more money preaching about it than doing it.

Not unlike many religious leaders, come to think of it.

[Dweebston]

What is there to debate, really?

"The science is incomplete!" "The theory is robust!" "You're just deifying Darwin!" "God of the Gaps!"

[Irish]

What's the point in having a debate on creationism? The creationist clearly only believes that due to their religion. As a result, there's really nothing you can do to change their mind.

The creationist gets to feel holy and the Darwinist gets to feel smug. If I wanted to watch a circlejerk, I'm sure there's a website I could go to.

[Virginian]

If I wanted to watch a circlejerk, I'm sure there's a website I could go to.

Reddit.

[Greg F]

This had better be more exciting than the Bill Nye /Ken Hamm debate on creationism

What could be more exciting than 2 guys with no background in biology debating biology?

[Killaz]

Creationism relies on unknowable causes, so what is there to debate? Also, Nye is an ass. I'd rather watch him get cancer than speak.

[Agammamon]

. . . how the military industrial complex may yet demand that America builds tanks that the U.S. Army doesn't want.

Oh let's be clear, they *want* them. Its just that the Army brass actually understands (to a limited degree) what it means to have a BUDGET and there's stuff they want more. Army's not gonna turn anything down, as long as it comes with operating money attached, which these tanks don't.

[Agammamon]

For you Army pukes, does the Army have a boneyard like the AF does? If so then they may do what the AF did recently, take possession of some planes, ship 'em off to Tucson for spare parts.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Babwa Walters defends her pal Woody.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....claim.html

First, Whoopi with the whopper 'it wasn't rape-rape' and now this.

[Irish]

Oh, Red Girls' Salon as in Republican.

For a second I thought you'd found another Communist.

[Francisco d Anconia]

INDEPENDENTS ASSEMBLE!

[kibby]

...in ten minutes.

[Francisco d Anconia]

It's a call to arms. Ten minutes to pee, fill your drink, switch teh teevee and time for Serious to post some inspirational music.

[playa manhattan]

What is everyone drinking tonight? I'm going with Modelo Especial.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

agua clara

[Killaz]

Hopslam and Two Hearted Ale.

[SweatingGin]

Chardonay, believe it or not. I'm not particularly happy with it. or proud of it. Maybe rye when I finish it.

[Max Power]

Miller Lite and Jim Beam. Kinda slumming it.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Red Bull and vodka.

[SweatingGin]

Ah, the Choice of Bros.

[Francisco d Anconia]

The gubmint stole my Sparks.

[playa manhattan]

Are you looking to cry in the corner before you fall asleep?

[Francisco d Anconia]

I am.

[Raven Nation]

I think Tullamore Dew. Or perhaps Aberfeldy single malt.

[playa manhattan]

Hit tip to you, sir.

[Lady Bertrum]

Wine from a box: Bota Box Malbec 2012 specifically.

[playa manhattan]

My nickname in college was BoxWine.

[BigT]

Sierra Nevada Stout

[Old Man With Candy]

'99 Henri Gallet Cote-Rotie. Mostly from Lancement vineyard. As Woody Allen would say, "Still too young, but yummy nonetheless."

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Water.

[SIV]

Modelo Especial

Excellent taste, sir. I prefer Victoria but Modelo Especial will do in a pinch.

[Emmerson Biggins]

Can you not buy beer at a gas station in California? Or did I just get unlucky and walk into the one run by a baptist preacher?

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

GOBOTS combine!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

You rang?

/zips pants.

[playa manhattan]

I think you mean
/unzips pants

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU1yg6_l0_4

[Rufus J. Firefly]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJQ6W6ZIoVQ

Hartman and Coltrane.

[Max Power]

I wonder why that video has a picture of Miles Davis.

[SweatingGin]

AHHH! CAVUTO!

[Francisco d Anconia]

Reason needs a time hack.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

or a Time Lord.

[SweatingGin]

That's Fist, right?

[Fist of Etiquette]

I'm my own grandfather.

[kibby]

This would be fantastic.

[cryptArchy]

Christopher Eccleston was the 9th Doctor, he also played Malekith in Thor 2. Only reason I saw that movie

[Killaz]

My nephew was telling me a friend asked him if he has ever seen Dr. Who. He hadn't, and then he asked, he thought innocently enough, 'just who is he suppose to be?' And the guy got really defensive about it. Just wanted to know something about the mythos around the show, but apparently even asking about that crossed a line. I've encountered that before, not to that degree though, with fans of that show. Just mentioning Tom Baker got one fan to chuckle at me, 'Get over, Tom Baker!'

[Agammamon]

The worst are the new fans - 'who's the best Doctor, Matt Smith or David Tenant?'

Fuckers, I'm not a fan of the show but obviously Tom Baker. 'Who's he then?'

[Cdr Lytton]

You misspelled Jon Pertwee.

[Sevo]

So what's ahead on Oprah?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Feminists live tweet the Super Bowl under the 'Portlandia' twitter feed

See? How dare you glibertarians say feminists aren't funny! Look at these witticisms and laugh!

[lap83]

I refuse. I like the Portlandia sketches on the feminist bookstore, but they're only funny because feminists are so unfunny.

[Killaz]

To think, by not appreciating feminist comedy, I missed out on gems like this:

This has never been done before? in the history of commercials? Really? White guy with a car? Really? #FeministBookstoreSaysWhat #feminism

? Portlandia (@ifcportlandia) February 2, 2014

more cars. this is new. oh, the men are driving and the women are in the passenger seat. shocking. #feminism #feministbookstoresayswhat

? Portlandia (@ifcportlandia) February 2, 2014

[jesse.in.mb]

Which of course reminds me of this car commercial.

[playa manhattan]

I was so sure you were going to link to the cadillac commercial where GM debuted dual climate zones.

"He prefers 68"
"She prefers 72"

My wife's response to the commercial:
"She's a bitch".

[Killaz]

I thought it was going to be Mrs. Dream Stomper beating him on the race track when he gets to live out his fantasy, but that commercial was much better.

[Francisco d Anconia]

I prefer 69.

[playa manhattan]

That RB & vodka is really kicking in, eh?

[Corning]

more cars. this is new. oh, the men are driving and the women are in the passenger seat. shocking. #feminism #feministbookstoresayswhat

I am calling bullshit!!

I hate to drive and every GF i have had i had zero chance with getting them to drive if they had the choice.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

President Obama is...The Warrior. Bang, bang.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47y5bo8wtqM

[playa manhattan]

Not available in "my" country

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Scandal. The Warrior.

[Francisco d Anconia]

I miss the 80s.

[Episiarch]

Hoops again?!? Where's the diversity? I miss the invisible earrings now.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hoops repeat.

[Bam!]

A bedazzled zebra with rerun earrings.

[Fist of Etiquette]

What is all over her collar? I can't tell her rank for those insignia.

[Episiarch]

It's some kind of Ferengi rank. I think it's "female slave".

[Fist of Etiquette]

THEN WHY IS SHE CLOTHED?

[Episiarch]

Fox News, dude. FAUX NEWS.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Disgusting!

[Episiarch]

Oh Kennedy, you and your weight faux pas...

[SweatingGin]

Kmele with the bowtie. I didn't realize he was a full-blown an-cap.

[Agammamon]

He's gotta be careful. Black man with bowtie screams 'Nation of Islam'.

[playa manhattan]

What is "pink box"?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Jerry Seinfeld: Chinese women aren't funny.

[playa manhattan]

You are so right.

[Bobarian]

Margret Cho agrees with this sentiment

[playa manhattan]

Ahem.

[jesse.in.mb]

To be fair, she used to be funny. Although it may help if you're her target audience.

[cryptArchy]

Isn't she Korean? Or are we lumping in all asians as Chinese

[Bam!]

I think it is, yeah, like, *lip smack* Yeah

[kibby]

Ugh, she is one of those women who ends every statement with a question mark. I already want to strangle her.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

You do? Are you sure?

[kibby]

Like, I don't know?

[Episiarch]

Nothing is funnier than white people talking about white privilege. Wait, I'm sorry...nothing is funnier than any idiot talking about any "privilege".

[Fist of Etiquette]

This just in: Kmele Foster in contrary.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Also of note: Kmele Foster kicks ass.

[Episiarch]

In a bowtie.

[Heroic Mulatto]

So do I.

[General Butt Naked]

"Octoroon Dandy"?

[Heroic Mulatto]

I'll steal that, thank you.

[Episiarch]

Kmele strikes back against Kennedy's weight attack.

[Byte Me]

I think it's exceptionally racist to believe you or others are "privileged" to be a certain color, and speak about race incessantly, and constantly group people in every way imaginable (especially by race), all things that progs are routinely guilty of.

[PapayaSF]

Apparently racism in the service of anti-racism is not racist.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Did she just reverse her position? No, wait, that's the other one.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Wouldn't have had that problem if they weren't both white.

[SweatingGin]

All look same!

[Fist of Etiquette]

The one should be black on the left side while the other black on the right side.

[Killaz]

Well, white guys drive like this [both hands tightly gripping steering wheel, leaning forward] and black guys drive like this [slouched, left arm hanging out the window, right wrist loose on the wheel].

[Fist of Etiquette]

"Can I clarify?"

"Fuck you, Kmele."

[Bobarian]

But Salon feels really guilty for being white

[SweatingGin]

I loved that Salon shout-out from Welch.

[Francisco d Anconia]

CYA Kmele?

[Episiarch]

I love how they completely sucked the air out of the race-baiter's argument. If only you had done something similar to Weiner.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I approve the sucking of Weiner on-air.

[Episiarch]

I didn't realize that there were actual Wookie fetishists among us.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Terrible.

[Bobarian]

The first lady is Hysterical?

I guess from the original meaning, having to do with being a crazy woman?

[SweatingGin]

Well, Kennedy dance interlude just took this evening around the bend. Be right back, it's mother-fucking rye time.

[Byte Me]

Cut a rug, Kennedy.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Let's move... to the next topic.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Yeah, this show drags.

[Bam!]

It's 4.5 million dollars to get Obama's wife out of the house. The man would be back on the tobacco weasel if it wasn't for Let's Move.

[Bobarian]

Tobacco weasel? A euphemism for the POTUS (where P = penis)?

[Episiarch]

So they've just realized that school milk comes from rats? Some of us actually used to watch the Simpsons, you know.

[playa manhattan]

Now with more Vitamin R!

[Episiarch]

That's Malk you fool!

[kibby]

I don't know how much the audience of The Independents needs to see an ad for it, FBN.

[Heroic Mulatto]

That many people are not fucking living to 105.

[Episiarch]

Oooohhhh, a self-promotional ad. You guys are moving up in the world! I think you're just above basic cable at this point, but below the Home Shopping Network.

[Fist of Etiquette]

What the fuck is it with all these commercial spokesmen without a clean shave? If you want to sell me a hotel room take a step closer to the razor, mister.

[jesse.in.mb]

What could you possibly have against sculpted stubble?

[All-Seeing Monocle]

scubble?

[Episiarch]

Really. Some of us live by it.

[General Butt Naked]

You should stop wasting your time and shave.

Your sculpted neckbeard will never be stylish.

[playa manhattan]

The packaging for my beard trimmer was clearly marketed towards gay men.

[jesse.in.mb]

I think that's true of all beard trimmers. Straight men just use a clamshell with a bee in it.

[Spoonman.]

Mine too. The result is what my wife likes, so I don't really care about anybody else's opinion. I shave when I have to go into the office.

[Old Man With Candy]

The Yasser Arafat look?

[playa manhattan]

I stepped out of the room. Was it the PC repair commercial? That guy looks like a junkie.

[Episiarch]

Matt, Kennedy, please stick to air guitar. You don't have the rhythm for air drums.

[Fist of Etiquette]

FOUR HUNDRED MILLION JOBS!

[Francisco d Anconia]

Actually, you DON'T sound like Jimmy Stewart.

[Bam!]

No tie and a slightly unkempt hair. Is Matt going through some life issues?

[kibby]

You're calling that unkempt?

[Bam!]

For Matt. His hair is normally much tighter.

[Episiarch]

Uh, Matt, wouldn't health insurance attached to your job be an already existing perverted government interference in the first place?

[Fist of Etiquette]

And destruction of jobs is not even the worst thing about Obamacare.

[Bobarian]

2.5 Million fewer jobs?

How many more people of working age?

Death spiral, anyone?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Man, December 2009: back when years of mendacity had yet to catch up to Obama and age his appearance.

[Derpetologist]

OT: I was trying to explain Austrian economics to my brother, an experience which reminded me of Skeleton Jack's attempt to explain Christmas to the residents of Halloween Town.

I did however succeed in convincing him that "Keynesian" is pronounced "Cane-zee-in" and not "Kuh-nee-zee-in".

Baby steps.

[SweatingGin]

From now on, I'll pronounce it as "Kuh-nee-zee-in".

I had a fun time explaining it to a friend, until I realized that everything he knew about it came from rationalwiki.

[Derpetologist]

rationalwiki- you will never find a more wretched hive of derp and wankery.

[Agammamon]

Encyclopedia Dramatica?

[Episiarch]

I'm confused. You guys are confusing me.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Masturbate that frustration away.

[Episiarch]

Well it is a commercial...

[SweatingGin]

Belize turns you on that much?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Have you been to Belize?

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

They show a woman in a surprisingly skimpy bikini bottom walking away from the camera with a guy in that commercial...

[SweatingGin]

I have not. I assume there is a tie-in to John McAfee's former estate.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I'll post some links later, my man.

[Ted S.]

Belize navidad,
Belize navidad,
Belize navidad,
Prospero a?o y belizidad!

[kibby]

You won't even need half the commercial break. Go to town.

[Episiarch]

OK I'm done! Man, I love Belize.

[kibby]

You should hold some kind of world record for this.

[Episiarch]

Oh, I hold several.

[Bam!]

How come Matt doesn't get this pissy when guests come on?

[Episiarch]

He actually hates Kennedy and Kmele more than any guest.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Preach it Kmele!

[kibby]

I feel like I'm in my Econ class again, but with super attractive professors.

[Episiarch]

I'm trying to determine if your Econ class had Igor for a professor or if you have a very high opinion of the appearance of the Independents. Think carefully.

[kibby]

I plead the fifth.

[Episiarch]

Does this look like a place where the Constitution means squat?!?

I mean this country, of course.

[kibby]

...Yeah, you're right. I am too lazy to answer the question, can we make that an official something?

[Episiarch]

"The Sixty-Ninth Amendment"

[kibby]

Okay, you win tonight.

[tarran]

I much prefer the 67th, myself.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

She's obviously referring to Kennedy. NTTAWWT.

[kibby]

MAYBE I AM. Kennedy is adorable, but not necessarily my type of woman.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Good. More Kennedy for me.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Will someone please break out the Stossel giant prop scissors.

[Byte Me]

Belize!

[Bam!]

You better Belize it!

[Heroic Mulatto]

NIGGA, BELIZE!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Now when I talk about Belize, why do you assume I'm talking about God?

[playa manhattan]

You're really pushing it, only being 25 percent black and whatnot.

[playa manhattan]

BTW, my wife shares 75 percent of your genetic heritage. The jew part is sephardic, though. Such a deal breaker...

[Heroic Mulatto]

That's cool! Supposedly, my maternal grandfather's family were Bukharan Jews who ended up in Latvia for whatever reason.

[playa manhattan]

All I know is that my wife got the Scottish nose instead of the Persian Jew nose. And for that, I married her.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Not a schonz fan? My wife has no nose. She's like an alien Gray, just ginormous almond-shaped eyes and two nostril slits.

Her perspiration also glows in the dark.

[playa manhattan]

That's the trade-off with a woman who isn't hairy.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

I agree. You did well. *tips hat*

[playa manhattan]

I forgot that you have access to pictures.

[Heroic Mulatto]

1/4 of a drop rule.

[Derpetologist]

Behold the derp Pelosi manages to concentrate in one minute:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE-z38pXUAo

[Byte Me]

"Unemployment insurance...is a job creator."

Umm...

[evnthrzn99]

Don't know about anybody else in NYC but The Independents is scrambled by Time Warner where I am. They claim it's a problem with the network feed.

[jesse.in.mb]

It keeps pausing to buffer for me. I thought it was just my local network sucking.

[SweatingGin]

When I turned it on in the last 10 minutes of Cavuto, it was going about 4 frames per second. Picked back up, though.

Standard def channel was normal, though.

[playa manhattan]

You have cable now?

[jesse.in.mb]

No, I poached my parents' FiOS username/password. Delicious HBO Go on my Roku box. One of these days I'll watch Looking and report back on how disappointed I am to have not seen Jonathan Groff's peen.

[Fist of Etiquette]

This guy stole Welch's tie.

[Episiarch]

If you pull a truck 30% out of a ditch, it's still stuck and not going anywhere. I'm thinking maybe a different metaphor is in order.

[Bobarian]

I think that was his point?

[playa manhattan]

WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER

[Fist of Etiquette]

Access to care is a pretty big part of quality of care.

[Derpetologist]

Pelosi really is an unstoppable derp machine. Here she claims extending unemployment benefits will reduce the deficit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOvEsPSeE9c

[Fist of Etiquette]

This guy just rebutted Welch by echoing his point?

[Episiarch]

NO NO NO NO PUNS NO NO NO

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Clearly the solution is to sell off the tanks in a fire sale. Anyone want to chip in and buy an M1 Abrams?

[Episiarch]

Just because you want to see Abrams' Episode 1 doesn't mean the rest of us want to pay for that, Star Wars geek.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I'll chip in for a few lens flares.

[Episiarch]

LENS FLARES DO NOT WORK THAT WAY

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Look Epi, I know you're miffed that you went to the open casting call in your homemade Mon Mothma costume and didn't get the part.

But that doesn't mean the rest of us can't hold a little bit of optimism that Star Wars is the franchise Abrams is actually well-suited to restart.

[Episiarch]

I told you that in confidence!

[Bobarian]

The GI bill was a great investment in the past.

Currently, College appears to be a bad investment, unless you choose carefully.

So, I think that point is no longer true

[Agammamon]

I disagree.

Put in you $1,200 investment, go to a local community college 3/4 time and do just enough work to get a C and get $400+ a month. Do that for 2 semesters and you've broken even (in-state tuition costs and books). After that, its free money.

[Bobarian]

I was talking as an investment into society.

Also the new GI Bill doesn't require 1200 from the GI, they even get housing allowance.

[jesse.in.mb]

The VA has a surprisingly good electronic medical record/patient management system. I wanted to get a modified version of it for our office, but got overruled.

[Derpetologist]

More classic Pelosi derp: 500 million Americans will lose their jobs if the stimulus isn't passed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8hMJVXt09E

[SweatingGin]

Wasn't that per month or something?

[Derpetologist]

Yes, that was another incident:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UR5M5teyQ0

[PapayaSF]

I really wonder if she believes what she says, or is just bullshitting for partisan purposes. ("Honey, you won't believe what I had to say today! And I kept a straight face!")

[Derpetologist]

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.

[Emmerson Biggins]

believing would require some understanding of the derparia issuing forth from her word hole.

so no, she doesn't really believe it.

[Agammamon]

If she's saying 500 million Americans will lose their jobs then she not only doesn't believe the shit coming out of her mouth, she doesn't even read the speeches before they end up on the teleprompter.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Retirement benefits? Boo fucking hoo.

[PapayaSF]

And they are not being reduced, just not increasing as much as earlier planned.

[Derpetologist]

Pelosi- quit your job and get free healthcare thanks to Obamacare:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmL37TcBtpY

[Sevo]

Yes, thanks to the free shit party, you too can be a layabout with free shit!
Vote the free-shit ticket right down the line!

[Derpetologist]

The amazing(?) thing is, these are obvious lies. If you live in a state that is not expanding Medicaid, guess what? No soup for you.

[Fist of Etiquette]

For fucks sake, who hired this guy as a spokesman? I'm not adding bloatware to my computer on the say so of some dick who can't be bothered to keep himself up.

[playa manhattan]

He's looking to score a fix.

[lap83]

On the subject of Jerry Seinfeld, I thought the Comedians in Cars getting Coffee episode with Louis CK was great.
http://comediansincarsgettingc.....ue-numbers

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Anyone have any guesses why it's been exactly a century since we've had a president with facial hair?

[Episiarch]

Yes, the Jay Carney virus is spreading. It's called "Mendacious Prick Disease".

[Fist of Etiquette]

According to Jesse this makes Kerry a hottie now apparently.

[jesse.in.mb]

Whoa now. I like beards ON SOME GUYS, not on John Kerry.

[playa manhattan]

He's like the Tori Spelling of dudes.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Now that's interesting.

[SweatingGin]

Why the long face, secretary?

Welch: THAT IS NOT A GOOD BEARD.

[Bobarian]

That is not a beard!

[Bam!]

Took us this many episodes to get a "worse than Hitler."

[Fist of Etiquette]

Welch is white, now that I think about it.

[Francisco d Anconia]

John Kerry walks into a bar...

Bartender says, "Hey John, why the long face?"

[playa manhattan]

I thought we were better than this, but I laughed. Keep em coming!

[BigT]

FdA - you're an AF guy - I visited the Air Armaments Museum at Eglin AFB today with my 89-yr old father in law. It was awesome! Better than our 'local' museum in Dayton. If you haven't seen it, you should.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Thx.

Lived in Dayton for 3 years. That museum was awesome. I'll put the Eglin museum on the list.

[kibby]

I'm pretty sure that commercial is directed at youngish single pet owners like me & it definitely makes me want to kill myself.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Your cats will just eat your body. So at least they'll be well provided for.

[kibby]

It's something that comforts me in my lowest moments.

[playa manhattan]

Give her the timeframe too. It's like 48 hours, right?

[SweatingGin]

I figured cats get going before you're cold.

[kibby]

One of mine would start before I was even entirely gone, are you kidding me? He's such a pig.

[Episiarch]

Ok, Kmele just punked Matt better than anything so far on this show. More intra-show conflict! It's how reality shows work, after all!

TEAM KMELE 4EVA

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

The Christian soldiers of BYU boldly beatoff an assault from the enemy.

[SweatingGin]

Mrs. Gin wants to know why I hit record on the DVR for Kennedy saying "feverishly pleasuring himself"

[playa manhattan]

This segment is for you, Epi. Keep your hands to yourself. Or... I mean don't keep your hands to yourself!

[Episiarch]

Are...are you coming on to me?

[All-Seeing Monocle]

He does have a gay beard trimmer.

[playa manhattan]

And it's not for my face beard.

[Episiarch]

Gorilla mask party time!

We'll use airplane glue. It'll be your look for a while.

[playa manhattan]

I assume you are going to be the first one to pass out, so....

[Fist of Etiquette]

Who hasn't broke his own penis while stroking it?

[Bobarian]

We went from Godwinning to playing the racism card in 30 seconds.

I got whiplash!

[Episiarch]

Beer can be gay? Oh wait, I forgot about Bud Light Lime.

[Bobarian]

I think I have a bottle of Mich Ultra Peach Dragonfruit in my fridge.

Is that wrong? I haven't drank any.

[Heroic Mulatto]

No one likes Dragonfruit.

No one.

[jesse.in.mb]

Hillcrest Brewing Company: The World's First "Out and Proud LGBT Brewery"

[Bam!]

After last Friday's guac-off, I have a feeling we're going to see that foot race.

[kibby]

I'm really hoping so.

[jesse.in.mb]

Mm, show the adorable Scottish brewer!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Seems kind of doughy.

[jesse.in.mb]

Whateves, a little bit of doughy can prevent a whole lot of self-important jackassery.

[Fist of Etiquette]

You must have a complicated and nuanced spank bank.

[jesse.in.mb]

Not really...I'll fap to all sorts of guys, that guy I can see having drinks, dinner and curling up to watch a movie after slightly unconventional sex.

Ok, maybe nuanced IS the right word.

[Ted S.]

I'd have guessed he follows Robert Parker and goes for the bold and heavy.

[Bam!]

The contractually required one-guilt-trip per-episode is here.

[Bam!]

Where were those fingers during the commercial, Kennedy?

[Episiarch]

Kennedy laughing about the death of PSH is one of the funnier things I've seen today.

Faux pas count: 2

[SweatingGin]

Kennedy coming unglued like that is awesome. She's *one of us*.

[Episiarch]

It's the unscripted moments that are the most adorable.

[mbyrd624]

I thought she had a booger half-ejected from her nose, and was desperately trying to locate a Kleenex, while maintaining her composure on live TV.

[Bam!]

SNOW FLAKE EARRINGS!

[Episiarch]

Why is Eddie Munster talking on your show?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Oh God! That Smirk!

[Heroic Mulatto]

God, I want to punch that fuck's face until it is a bloody pulp!

[All-Seeing Monocle]

So, once?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Pretty much. Never have a seen such an arrogant little twerp.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I'm beginning to suspect Shapiro is Jewish.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Yes, but do you suspect he's one of those Cosmotarians?

[Fist of Etiquette]

ONE BABY DIED, WELCH. ONE SINGLE BABY.

[Ted S.]

Better than a married baby.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Don't even get me started.

[Episiarch]

Why are you not eating this twerp alive? Ask him "do you even lift, bro?" It'll totally throw him.

[SweatingGin]

Ask, and Kennedy will eat him alive.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

And Kemele will chew up the remains.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Are you truly arguing something that you didn't remotely say?

[jesse.in.mb]

Wait, what's wrong with libertinism in a libertarian universe? Wouldn't people who went to excess become object lessons in failure really quickly?

[Episiarch]

Ha ha ha, the twerp uses the TEAM RED definition of libertarian which is "pot-smoking liberal".

[Episiarch]

Kmele destroys the kid's moronic argument, and he just whistles past the graveyard.

[Fist of Etiquette]

THIS OTHER PERSON.

[Bobarian]

You know... the colored fella?

[Fist of Etiquette]

In Shapiro's defense, I don't think remote guests get a video feed of who's yapping at them. But it's fun to hammer him on the unfortunate wording.

[kibby]

Umm...THIS OTHER PERSON?

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Guest... SILENCED.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

You don't need to apologize, Kennedy.

[Winston]

So how about Wallace Reid? What was the legal situation with heroine and morphine at the time?

[Episiarch]

Really, Kennedy? Mocking the retarded?

Faux pas: 3

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Isn't that the entire premise of the show?

[Winston]

Insulting people you don't like. How edgy!

[Heroic Mulatto]

No, you only roast the ones you love.

[Bam!]

You don't apologizes for awesome, Kennedy.

[SweatingGin]

^^ This

[Bam!]

These Spanish networks coming in, taking ad time from good American companies.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Let the boycotts begin!

[Episiarch]

"Old people don't take a dump without a plan."

Oh sorry, Fred Thompson does that to me.

[Sevo]

OK, so did they bust the commie's chops yet?

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Chops were busted.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Stallone and Schwarzenegger?

[Bam!]

I hate this airhead.

[Byte Me]

Segment intro.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAqZb52sgpU

[Episiarch]

Yeah, Pink Box, Obama is sure standing up for gay rights.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Recently the head of the Human Rights Council seriously lauded Obama for saying the word 'gay' more than any other president.

[Episiarch]

Give that man another Nobel Prize!

[Winston]

I'm still waiting for Dukakis, Mondale and Kerry to get theirs.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Olympia Dukakis?

[Winston]

Well doesn't she deserve one for co-starring with Cher and Nic Cage?

[kibby]

That only works if he starts droning the gays, man.

[Episiarch]

Speaking of droning, they have Limbaugh on right now.

[Heroic Mulatto]

That's bullshit. I know for a fact every other word out of FDR's mouth was "gay"; as in "This is a rather gay party!" or "The mood of the populace was gay."

[Ted S.]

Not this shit. Just as bad as the people whining that Reagan never said "AIDS", as if only the government could do research and try to find a cure for a disease.

Way to infantilize gay people thre.

[jesse.in.mb]

Recently the head of the Human Rights Council seriously lauded Obama for saying the word 'gay' more than any other president.

His boosters had to find SOMETHING to be excited about, he's playing caboose to the runaway train of gay acceptance.

[Byte Me]

I think she also suggested that public violent assaults are going on unanswered against gays in this country. As far as I know, an assault is an assault, and you get punished for assault. (unless you're a cop, of course)

[jesse.in.mb]

As of a few years ago Jews and gays were the only groups where targeted attacks were on an uptick, but I haven't bothered checking the numbers in a few years. That being said, when these attacks happen they get prosecuted to the best of everyone's ability.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Russia deserves to have the Olympics inflicted on it.

[Episiarch]

You mean they deserve each other.

[Fist of Etiquette]

When I want you to tell me what I mean I'll tell you what I mean so you can parrot back to me what I mean. Understand?

[Episiarch]

POLLY WANTS A CRACKER

[kibby]

D'awww, you two are so cute.

[Fist of Etiquette]

But I'm carrying most of that cuteness load, right?

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

hardly.

[Episiarch]

Wait...that means I am! I figured something out! Woo hoo!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Don't you have a tennis match to get to? With the cast of Girls maybe?

[Bobarian]

I'm really proud of the empty shirt for standing up for gay rights... now that it polls better than it used to.

[Bobarian]

And by stand up, I mean literally, and not do anything else.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

OK Matt, what made Kennedy lose her shit?

[SweatingGin]

We need to know.

[Bam!]

Full debriefing during the after show.

[Francisco d Anconia]

Oh, for Christ's sake. We discriminated against gays 2 years ago. Russia sucks cause they're like 4 years behind us.

PLEASE!

[jesse.in.mb]

She seems nice, but it's a little like a man on the street interview with lots of feelings.

[Episiarch]

This is an Independents thread, jesse, not one about your mom.

[jesse.in.mb]

What are you talking about, Epi. You've met my mother she's completely emotionally dead. And she clearly does not seem nice.

[Episiarch]

I was just trying to be polite. Screw you, I'm going to go have a cigarette. With your mom.

[jesse.in.mb]

Just remember she's quick with those things and loves the smell of seared skin.

[Fist of Etiquette]

The Independents are sluts!

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Kmele: We are the independents.

Ron Howard: Hey, that's the name of the show!

[Episiarch]

Just let Kmele talk until the show is over.

[kibby]

I want Kmele's little speeches printed on note cards so I can pass them out to everyone ever.

[Bam!]

Like an Independents prayer card.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

Libertarian bait--like those pieces of paper that look like money but have John 3:16 on it.

[kibby]

I don't want them to HATE us, I want them to join us!

[Heroic Mulatto]

That's why we're also going to make libertarian Chick tracts.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Chick as in Jack T.

[SweatingGin]

Did somebody say Chick Tracts?

An original, non-parody too: Dark Dungeons

[kibby]

Would that be so wrong?

[SweatingGin]

Jebus, Kmele, a Hayek reference?

An-cap bow-tie, Austrian economist reference. I'm pretty uncomfortable here, Kmele.

[Bobarian]

There are a lot of republicans who held their nose for a lot of problems with the party line, that don't anymore.

Present!

[Fist of Etiquette]

AH! Lou Dobbs.

[Episiarch]

AIGGHH LOU DOBBS

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

GET BACK TO IT

[Bobarian]

LIVE STREAM ASSEMBLE?!

[SweatingGin]

Is there a live stream? Is it from the FBN website?

[Bam!]

All I got is a, "The Live Stream will begin soon"

[Bobarian]

I'm getting 'The LIVE Stream will begin soon'.

[kibby]

Myself as well.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

buffering...buffering...buffering...NO, NO STREAM FOR YOU.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCGPt3XFxJk

[All-Seeing Monocle]

perfect

[Heroic Mulatto]

What Williams was alluding to.

I remember seeing these guys in a little cantina in the American district of Shanghai in 1927-ish. Morry 2-Guns Cohen first introduced me to the place. I believe Big Ears Du ran the place.

Good times.

[kibby]

While we wait a hundred years for this live stream, you should all seek out the show Mad Dogs & watch it. It is delightfully fucked up.

I never understood my friend's thing for John Simm, but now I totally do.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Formula One boss Bernie Ecclestone has revealed that he introduced the much-maligned rule to award double points for the last race of the season to help Ferrari catch up with its rivals

[Bam!]

The "Senna" documentary taught me that F1 is mostly politics.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Well, I may be a little older because it's always been that way.

And how is this different from, say, soccer anyway?

[Fist of Etiquette]

NO LIVE STREAM THIS IS TOTALLY BOGUS.

[kibby]

& the twitter account says they are lying liars, there is no live stream aftershow tonight.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

That does it Independents. You are on a 23-hour BOYCOTT.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Personcott. Please.

[kibby]

Yeah! That'll show 'em!

[Francisco d Anconia]

I've noticed I'm STILL required to watch the commercial to NOT watch the live stream.

[playa manhattan]

That's stealing in my book.

[mbyrd624]

I hope they get a new sponsor soon for the livestream. I pretty much want to slit my wrists when I hear the first three acoustic guitar notes coming from the ads.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I bet when the live stream starts it will be the network suits giving Kennedy the business for that giggle fit she had.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

NO LIVE STREAM? or so the Germans would have us believe.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

We apologise again for the fault in the livestream. Those responsible for sacking the people who have just been sacked, have been sacked.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

DOUBLE TOILET!!!

[Virginian]

So was dipping into the gun debate. This intrepid progtard was trying to pose as the "rational, apolitical skeptic" and had some CDC studies saying you're more likely to get hurt if you resist. Along with a comment along the lines of "science proves me right"

I produced a study that said the opposite, and also mentioned that you can't call such studies science, because they lack certain fundamental tenets of science. Like, you can't repeat the experiment, there's no control group, there are literally infinite independent variables, etc.

He thought my stance on this was uproariously funny, but he never really rebutted me. Now, I think I'm right on this, but a lot of you guys are smarter then I am.

[SweatingGin]

Come on. you should know the safest plan is to try to vomit on your attacker, right?

[Killaz]

Science has proven that pissing and shitting yourself is the best way to make yourself unrapeable in the eyes of an attacker. Why do you resist?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Do you have a link to the study?
And by "fundamental tenets of science", I think a better term for what you are describing is "the fundamental tents of (positivist) empirical research". That way, the Prog can't weasel out by claiming the methodology of public health research is different than the physical sciences.

[Virginian]

Well see that's another thing. He then goes on about epidemiology. Well, to me that's the study of communicable disease. Violent crime is not a communicable disease. So I'm not sure how that works.

[SIV]

Violent crime is not a communicable disease. So I'm not sure how that works.

Sure it is. Guns are the vector. Gun bans drain the swamps or remove the pump handle from the infected well. This is all Public Health 101.

[Heroic Mulatto]

A Caucasian woman burlesque strip-teasing/belly-dancing to a Greco-Turkish song originally composed in Syria in front of a group of Japanese men painted brown and dressed like Indian Hindu Brahmin priests.

[Bam!]

Hell of an act, what do you call it?

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

The Aristocats!

[SweatingGin]

That lead me to watching Bob Saget's chunk, all the way through, waiting for the terrible at the end.

Which lead to our buddy Penn dropping this gem: Feel how hard I am

[Corning]

I am calling bullshit!!

A tom cat would kill those kittens on sight.

[Heroic Mulatto]

The Independents!

[Agammamon]

Hell of an act, what do you call it?,/Blockquote

THAT"S RACIST!

[SweatingGin]

Diversity!

[Heroic Mulatto]

Even better, the lyrics, a mixture of Greek and Arabic, of the song are sung from the point of view of a Greek Christian man head-over-heels in love with a Muslim Egyptian woman.

[All-Seeing Monocle]

Now combine that video with the Dick Dale rendition of the music and you got somethin.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Sped-up Benny Hill-style, of course.

[playa manhattan]

Where are the Belize links? Should I buy property now?

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

shivering produces the same energy-burning hormones as moderate exercise.

[playa manhattan]

A lot of research has been done about this. Being cold burns a lot more calories than most exercise. People on polar expeditions consume around 8000 calories a day.

This is why I sleep with the window open.

[PapayaSF]

Yes, Tim Ferriss talks about this in The 4-Hour Body. He recommends an icepack on the back of the neck to trigger thermogenesis.

[kibby]

Seriously? I'm freezing all the time & it seems to make no difference to my body.

[playa manhattan]

Feeling cold and being cold aren't the same. I never feel cold, but it probably has something to do with me being Scandinavian.

You would be surprised what your body will adjust to, though. I swim in sub 60 degree water in the winter, and I barely even notice.

There are a few articles about it that I'll look for. BRB.

[playa manhattan]

Here's one:
http://www.wired.com/playbook/.....ight-loss/

[Killaz]

The best way I've found to take off excess pounds (Holidays are so damn disruptive, hate everything about them. Except presents) is to not eat for twelve hours and then devote an hour to cardio. Your body will burn from fat stores only after about eight hours of not eating.

[Killaz]

Be sure to eat right after you work out though, so you don't lose muscle tissue as well.

[playa manhattan]

It's my hot body, I'll do what I want!

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Formula E, the new electric racing series which launches in Beijing in September, will have 20 races on its calendar by 2019

[Agammamon]

20 races that run for two miles, stop for 15 minutes to change batteries, run two more mile, stop to change batteries, etc.

[SIV]

Did anyone see the personal injury lawyer ad that ran on the Savannah, GA Fox-affiliate during the Super Bowl?

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

Yes. I mentioned it yesterday.

[SIV]

I must be living in a cave.

[playa manhattan]

He's blowin' up now:
http://www.tmz.com/2014/02/04/.....l-georgia/

[Fist of Etiquette]

There was a recall on Michael brand sledgehammers. They would burst into flame for, like, no reason.

[Snark Plissken]

If all you have is a Michael sledgehammer, everything looks like Burning Man.

[Sevo]

And a happy evening wish for all of you, along with a wish there are no more threads about THAT IDIOT WHO JAMMED ENOUGH DOPE IN HIS ARM TO KICK OFF!
Sorry, but that stuff is getting real tired.

[jesse.in.mb]

THIS IS WHY THERE ARE NO JUNKIE LIBERTARIANS!

Wait, that doesn't really work, y'all are a bunch of degenerates. Especially Epi.

[Agammamon]

Libertines, not degenerates.

[Corning]

Especially Epi.

THATS WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO TELL YOU!!!

[playa manhattan]

Expect at least three more posts tomorrow.

[SIV]

Reason should be hittin' it hard.
The message that opiate prohibition kills is excellent ammo in the War on Prohibition. Standing on PSH's fat dead body in the pursuit of liberty is no vice.

[BiMonSciFiCon]

Was Matt just disapproving of the Beck bumper music? It can't all be the Pixies, Matt. (P.s. I think your hair looks fine)

[Notorious G.K.C.]

Wow, dude, that makes so many crazy kinds of sense, but Big Booty Jo Jo isn't going to like it, lol! Those bought and paid for politicians can't bypass my failsafe privacy system! You Beckerhead peanut gallery nuts are simply conspiring against the white race, but my best friend's cousin's hairdresser's dentist made $1999 a day working at 31 Flavors last night.

[playa manhattan]

I acknowledge your joke and am mildly amused.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

How the Seattle Seahawks Solved Peyton Manning

[montana mike]

He was being polite, the Seahawks beat the shit out of the Denver receivers and Manning, by the 4th quarter Denver had lost their will. That is the essence of football. My dad me told that 40 years ago, knock the guy in front of you on his ass and you win.

It's that simple, like it or not. I played a lot of sports in high school and was a decent athlete but didn't really have a killer instinct, good football players do. My buddy was an all state linebacker at 165 pounds, he relished lighting people up, he lit me up often in practice. Football in its essence hasn't really changed.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

So what's your high score on 'Flappy Bird'?

[montana mike]

In other words a derpfest of epic proportions. I like it probably good TV.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

A message from Flea.

[Archduke von Pantsfan]

And so we end our broadcast day.

[Corning]

First time I have ever seen Wiener speak.

I like him more now.

He is a complete idiot

"Deficit goes down the debt goes down"

But still fun to watch.

[RishJoMo]

Over the mountain and through the woods!

http://www.Anon-Works.tk

[TimothyZ]

Re:"BYU's bizarre new anti-masturbation video"
I came for the comments, but this only lubricated my appetite for double entedres and stoked the desire to ruthlessly exploit this young post. I'm collapsing under the temptation to count off neighbors and friends' strokes. My parobolics are on order and my spreadtissue is ready on Microsoft Excel.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Korea and the Palestinian territories. Who would have guessed those two?

Heavily armed border? I think the West Germans would also have been in that category back in the day.

[PapayaSF]

LOL, it even gets 71% in Mexico! Hypocrites.

[Episiarch]

RETARD ALERT

[Heroic Mulatto]

Cosmotarianism is a Jewish political movement

I'm curious. How do you define this "Cosmotarianism"?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Retard alert acknowledged.

[playa manhattan]

Uhhh, that was what we call a self-announcing retard alert.

[Episiarch]

So was that.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Can't argue with that.

[Heroic Mulatto]

And who are the movers and shakers of this movement, pray tell?

[tarran]

And who are the movers and shakers of this movement, pray tell?

The Queen, The Vatican, The Gettys, The Rothschilds, *and* Colonel Sanders before he went tits up.

[Heroic Mulatto]

I knew it!

[seguin]

You're such a sheeple. The Rothschilds spirited Colonel Sanders away in exchange for allowing Xenu to know all 11 herbs and spices.

Also, chemtrails.

[Calidissident]

How shocking that Mexicans (and Americans of Mexican descent) have differing opinions of a subject.

[PapayaSF]

The hypocrisy is that Mexicans don't want immigrants coming from their south, but think the US is awful for believing the same thing.

[Calidissident]

If you wanna prove hypocrisy, you'd have to show that those two groups of people are the same or largely overlap. If you polled Mexican immigrants in the US and got similar results, then I could see your point. Polling people in Mexico doesn't really tell us much, however.

[seguin]

I have no data, just anecdotes...but most of the Mexicans I have met who are from Mexico are incredibly racist towards Central Americans.

[Bobarian]

^^This

I took a bus from LA to Salinas to pick up my car and had a long talk with a Mexican migrant worker.

According to him, the Hondurans were fucking it up for everyone. They took our jerbs!