FreedomFest

Free Lunch or Shit Sandwich? Nick Gillespie, Steve Forbes, Jim Rogers, Wayne Allyn Root, Jenny Beth Martin

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I appeared on the final panel at this past summer's Freedom Fest in Las Vegas. Freedom Fest is the planet's largest annual gathering of libertarians and free-market types, pulling together 2,000-plus folks to discuss and debate every possible topic under the sun, from Bitcoin to drone strikes to laissez-faire history. The theme for this year's event was "Are We Rome?"

Here's the writeup for the final panel, which was originally posted at Reason.tv on November 1. Go here for more links and downloadable versions.

The final panel at Freedom Fest 2013 was titled "Are We Rome?" and featured Reason's Nick Gillespie, publisher Steve Forbes, Tea Party Express head Jenny Beth Martin, writer Wayne Allyn Root, and investment guru Jim Rogers.

At one point, Rogers noted that about half of Americans lived in households who were getting direct payments from the federal government, a situation he felt made real political change next to impossible. 

"Fifty percent of the country is getting a free lunch, said Gillespie, "but nobody wants a shit sandwich anymore. And that's what you're getting in terms of education, health care and retirement."

Moderated by conference organizer Mark Skousen, the panel discussed a wide variety of topics including government spending, regulation, foreign policy, the drug war, and more.

Held each July in Las Vegas, Freedom Fest is attended by more than 2,000 limited-government enthusiasts and libertarians. Each year, Reason TV talks with dozens of activists, speakers, and authors such as David Boaz of the Cato Institute, economist Peter Boettke, publisher Jeffrey Tucker, journalist Gene Epstein, legal scholar Randy Barnett, and tax advocate Grover Norquist. For a playlist of 2013 videos, go here.

About 45 minutes. Video courtesy of Mark and Jo Ann Skousen.

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  1. You know who else presented false dichotomies?

    1. Yeah, why can’t it be a free shit sandwich?

      1. Yeah man, whut’s up with that them thar “either / or” thang, anyways??!?! Ah says, it is BOTH a hemorrhoid ointment, AND a toothpaste, and it’s both a recycled used condom, AND it’s a wiener-wrapper for O-Bummer-Care sausages, if you can bear to look at the making of the sausages! And yes, of course, it is both a free lunch, AND a shit sandwich!

    2. Team Edward?

  2. “The review for Shark Sandwich was just two words: shit sandwich.”

  3. Freedom Fest is the planet’s largest annual gathering of libertarians and free-market types, pulling together 2,000-plus folks to discuss and debate every possible topic under the sun

    This is why there are no libertarian presidents.

    1. Math is a bitch

      1. “Math is hard” — Talking Barbie Doll

  4. Steve Forbes on the same panel as that shitstain con artist Wayne Allyn Root. Sure, makes sense.

    1. I love Steve Forbes. I’d actually vote again if he ran for President.

      1. Root, by contrast is a skidmark that makes your average polyester-suited fucking combover sleazebag seem genuine by comparison.

        1. *used car salesman

        2. Root seemed to think all our problems would be solved if Obama would just go away. Good news and bad news, buckaroo. Good news: he’s gone in three years. Bad news: won’t make a fucking difference.

      2. Has Forbes ever said anything negative about the gun control, the drug war, or the size of the defense budget?

        I’m afraid the technically correct response to an S. Forbes candidacy might be “Fuck off, slaver.”

      3. I like his optimism, but if he thinks the books he mentioned are going to make a dent in the average voters views, he’s senile.

    2. Now Pompey, we all understand your desire to be civil, but please, don’t pull any punches; tell us what you REALLY think about W.A. Root.

      1. If you watched the panel, you will agree that everyone but Root belonged there.

        He pussyfoots around joking about pornography with his stated intention being to preserve his “political career”.

        Motherfucker, what career? A fringe party like the LP threw your ass out in the primaries. A washed up former GOP congressman that looks like a pedophile handily beat you out. You are a fucking loser and nobody wants you around. Fuck off kindly, because even the cringe-inducing rhetorical style of Ron Paul kicks your lame ass.

        Wayne Allyn Root is Donald Trump without the charisma or style (ha!). The only thing he has going for him is having his own hair. He can’t even rock a pinstripe suit properly like the Donald does. He looks like a bloated corpse that got fished out of the Hudson River and got dolled up in a second hand Jones New York 3-piece.

        Wayne, if to are reading this (I know you are), better to retire the political ambitions, it is still embarrassing. Even GOPers that would ordinarily gobble up your jingoistic rhetoric find you unbearable.

  5. Good stuff. Also, War Eagle!

    1. Oh the Iron Bowl! I thought Kid Xenocles was just having a bad day…

  6. Man, I dunno about that them thar shit sandwiches? Just dunno. Now excuse me while I go and make an Obama, and flush it away, and I will be right back? Maybe THEN I will be able to make an intelligent comment?

    1. All right, I am back! And here is my intelligent comment: “Here I sit, my cheeks a flexin’, givin’ birth, to another Texan”! OK, make that commentS, plural: “My Honor Code: She offered her honor, he honored her offer, and all night long, it was Honor and Offer!” ? Also: “He who writes, on bathroom walls, wraps his Obama, in little balls, he who reads these lines of wit, eats those little balls of ? Wit! Yes, Wit!!! That’s IT!!!”

  7. Damn, ten minutes for an Obama, huh?

  8. By the way Nick, great job on the panel. I thoroughly enjoyed the way you and Jim Roberts brought to the table.

  9. until I looked at the check which was of $4814, I be certain that…my… mom in-law could actually bringing home money in there spare time on-line.. there aunt started doing this for under 20 months and at present cleared the debts on their appartment and got a top of the range Ford Mustang. why not try this out

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  10. Wayne Allen Root is a d-bag.

    Something Republicans and those who style themselves libertarian need to understand is that for every comment they make about the welfare class they need to make two about crony-capitalism – Corporate welfare is still welfare.

    Yes, the welfare state is a corruption, but the most foul aspect of it is the cronyism that is bi-partisan. From Hank Paulson to Larry Summers, they need to constantly attack the favored class as insiders who benefit from the revolving door between government supported “enterprise” (whether that’s Wall Street or “start-ups” like Solyndria).

    It’s just pathetic the way some on the right will overlook the cronyism of a Mitch McConnell but go on and on about welfare payments to ghetto dwellers.

    1. Yeah, but how else will we ever get low-down, lying, thieving politicians to run for office?

  11. until I looked at the check which was of $4814, I be certain that…my… mom in-law could actually bringing home money in there spare time on-line.. there aunt started doing this for under 20 months and at present cleared the debts on their appartment and got a top of the range Ford Mustang. why not try this out

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  12. Wayne Allyn Root is a tool

  13. I ran into W.A.R. at a local LP convention. This d-b doesn’t even understand how the Fed creates national (and international) booms and busts. This was after he ran as veep. Actually thought that having a central bank was a good idea. Republicans turned libertarians are usually a pain in the ass for at least a few years.

  14. until I looked at the draft that said $8761, I have faith …that…my best friend had been actualie erning money part time at their laptop.. there mums best friend has been doing this 4 only about 8 months and resently repaid the morgage on there villa and purchased a brand new Aston Martin DB5. see here now
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  15. Jim Rogers said that if forced to make a choice, he would prefer silver over gold, simply because he believes silver prices have already seen a bigger decline. bit.ly/JimRogersAnalysts

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