Why Young People Are Turning on Obama
As I write at The Daily Beast, between 2008 and 2012, Barack Obama pulled 2.4 million fewer votes from voters between the ages of 18 and 29. New polls shows that 54 percent of that group disapprove of the job he's doing as president. Wha happened?
The abysmal and pathetic launch of healthcare.gov is simply the cherry on top of a shit sundae Obama's been whipping up for the kids. You can protest that the stimulus should have been bigger, but when you judge its success against what the Obama administration claimed it would do, it was an epic fail. While masquerading as the peace and freedom candidate – easy to do against such hawkish characters as Hillary Clinton in the primaries and John McCain in the general election – Obama prided himself on tripling troop strength in Afghanistan and tried to extend our stays there and in Iraq. But for the vocal pushback from Rand Paul, Justin Amash, and a bunch of younger, non-interventionist Republicans, there's every reason that the U.S. would have started an unsanctioned war in Syria, just as it did in Libya (where things are working out…how, again?)….
The president has been genuinely awful on pot legalization and dragged his feet on gay marriage – issues on which younger voters are in front of the general population – and he spent his first term deporting more immigrants than George W. Bush managed to in eight years (despite minor reprieves announced in time for the 2012 elections, the deportations keep on happening). The revelations of widespread, Obama-approved drone strikes, the compilation of a presidential kill list, and the data collection of phone logs and internet traffic don't exactly inspire warm and fuzzy feelings from a generation that lives online. His response to the Gulf oil spill was dithering to non-existent and his alt-energy plans have come to naught even as fracking has put the country on a path to something like energy independence. And clandestine attempts to expand onerous copyright laws and outlaw cellphone unlocking via the Trans-Pacific Partnership Treaty aren't helping either.
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It's great that they are turning on Obama, but come 2016 they will happily goose-step to the polls and vote for the 'D' candidate again en masse.
Are you suggesting, sir, that approval polls are not reliable indicators of voting patterns?
What do you think about cheering the fact the percent of eligible voters continues to decline?
Let's cheer louder until it goes to zero.
That is a good thing Obama has done to this group. He has perhaps dashed their hopes so thoroughly that they just don't show up anymore.
Oh, cute handle, btw. Heh.
I'm interpeting that differently PB-the-other. DEG wrote "eligible" voters, not actual voters. My interpretation was that more people are getting disenfranchised because of gun violations, etc.
DEG, please clarify.
Only about of a third of eligible voter millenials voted for Obama in 2012 so what do you think will change by 2016 that we will be goose-stepping in mass for the D candidate?
A brand new candidate to hoist their hopes and dreams upon, not a soiled Obama after his first term.
I don't think the snappers are going to get too excited over the dried up old prunebag that the Dems are going to trot out in 16, but it won't matter since team stupid will trot out someone even worse than Romeny and McCain combined, and the wiminz folk and freepers will put the Hildebeast in the Whitehouse.
That's assuming Hillary! both runs and gets the nomination. Elizabeth Warren has been getting the Obama Treatment from the left for some time (although not nearly the level of media fellation Obama received between 2004-2008).
I won't be shocked if Warren declares her candidacy and ends up leveraging a VP nod out of it if she can't keep up with Hillary in the primaries. The Dems really don't have anyone else that has Hillary's political pedigree and Warren's rabble-rousing ability.
If history is any precedent, then the electorate will go for someone with more experience than Sen. Warren. Warren will almost certainly run both to gain experience and to try to move the platform to the left. Biden and Warren are of the proggie wing, the Clintons represent the middle of their party.
I was about to write that JFK was an outlier, but then I remembered that Candidate Obama was as relatively inexperienced as JFK was in 1960, and Warren will be in 2016.
So maybe she does have a shot after all.
I'm already seeing it with the Billary contingent. They can't wait to signal their status to the other members of the tribe with the Hillary! sticker on their lip plate.
Really? Just who hasn't been contaminated by the Obama brand?
I'm not sure about that. It's not that young people are turning on Obama, it's that these are a different set of young people then the acolytes who worshiped him in 2008. This group has only seen Democrats govern, and they hate them.
^^ this ^^
Current 25-30 year olds are more dem leaning than the current 18-24 year olds that vote. The prior remembers Bush and Obama back when he was the messiah. The latter only knows how much Obama sucks.
But, except for all his flaws, Obama has been great.
Yeah. That's the ticket.
More accurately, he's similar to the Dem fantasy of a Republican. Which makes sense, since he's a Dem fantasy.
not often that you read of someone watching Maher's show and believing someone other than the host was a dick. I can where if your view is that Bill Maher is perfectly reasonable, then everyone else is a crackpot.
"long on opinion, short on facts and rationality."
Sounds more like a progtard to me.
And you will notice that "donovan" had absolutely no rebuttals, just ad homs.
Stop confusing me with your facts and logic!!! I need to FEEL dammit!!!
Yes, Mr. commenter. You are on to them. Those young citizens who went ga-ga over the president TWICE were in reality closet racists. You see right through them.
..."work for nothing until you die"...
Damn!
One of my serfs must have gotten loose!.
I offer a 20% discount on my regular fee to regular members of this forum. In what general direction do you suspect this serf took?
Shut up and pay for my healthcare, you little shit.
Fail to deal with non-existent CAGW by spending hundreds of billions to accomplish meaninglessly small reductions in CO2
Continuing the War on Poverty in spite of abject and objective failure -- work for the state until you die
Deal with "health care" by giving everyone Medicaid in spite of the evidence showing no improvement in patient health
Why can't we all live in the paradise that is Venezuela? Toilet paper should be rationed and distributed be the state so all of our asses are equal.
..."a popular second term"...
Translation:
'I'm still an Obot!'
Man, it sure does suck when the all-powerful media starts trashing your guy... I wonder if those guys on the other side of the aisle had a point about... Nah.
Aaaaand that's all I can take.
You *are* a sadomasochist, just like the other commenters say!
Thanks for nothing, man. I specifically didn't click on the Comments link on Daily Beast so that I wouldn't be filled with rage.
The Koch Bros are so offended they are target to blackball Obamacare. Really?
Perhaps this upstanding gentleman can inform me on the proper ways to shot web.
And who the hell his Mitch McDonnell? And when did he start attempt to blackball Obamacare? I are ill informed.
They have essentially 'bought 'America through=
THE NEW YORK CITY BALLET
I thought it was Obama turning on young people (get it?).
Every time I read the comments on these articles I remember that I need to recheck the bug-out bag and my non-perishable food supplies.
^this. They need our cooperation far more than we need them for anything besides getting out of our fucking way so we can have a decent chance of living our lives as we value them.
OK, one more.
Right! That's it! I'm moving to the mountains and building a commune! I'm done with these mouthbreathing windowlickers!
Sorry, I meant compound. I guess the socialism is so pungent it actually bled through the screen.
...and his obsession with deficit reduction is galling to say the least.
Another proud soldier in the Free Shit Army! Why even give a shit at this point?
Let TEAM TONY tax and spend until collapse and then afterwards we can try and rebuild following the "Immolation of the Precious Snowfalkes"!
I thought you said that was all you could take already. Have you no compassion for your fellow man?
"OK, one more."
If there was a pull sting talking doll of Warty, "OK,one more," would be one of the sayings.
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Any regressive who still supported Obama after he signed the PATRIOT act extension is a flaming hypocrite.
-jcr
But JCR, Tony assured us the other day that Liberals can't be hypocrites.
"Why Young People Are Turning on Obama"
Because Obama's a pedophile?
8-year-olds, Dude.
"Why Young People Are Turning on Obama"
It's just not that hip anymore. Doesn't take a whole article to write that.
THERE IT IS! They turned on Lady Gaga too, and for similar reasons. I'd sure like to believe what Nick believes, but I don't think most voters are thoughtful people concerned with policy.
'Cause he doesn't deliver enough free shit.
alt text:
'See this ice cream cone? Ha, ha. You ain't getting it!'
It's nice that the current generation of youth is turning on Obama and all, but they're still pretty close to worthless. That's why nobody in his right mind wants to hire them to do any remotely important work.
Why?
Because you can't be WRONG all the time, either.
Well, young people certainly turned on Bill Clinton.