Nick Gillespie Talks Imperial Obama on HuffPostLive!

I was just on HuffPostLive talking about the imperial presidency, Barack Obama, and just what the hell has to happen to outrage a country that seems comfortable with executive kill lists, unilateral declarations of war, illegal economic policy (extension of TARP to auto companies, anyone?), and more.

The incomparable Alyona Minkovski hosted and I was joined in conversation by a ragtag crew of freedom fighters including former Reagan admin hand Bruce Fein, Crooks and Liars founder John Amato, and former Nixon library head Timothy Naftali.

About 30 mins, including about three minutes of excrutiating smooth jazz up front.

Comments

[Jesus H. Christ]

"...Alyona Minkovski hosed" Yeah, that's what we all hope for. BTW, Nick, Dr. Freud will now see you in his office.

[Zakalwe]

I object to "incomparable." I have compared her to other women in my imagination more than once.

[jesse.in.mb]

There are two tiers of people, Jesus: those with an edit button and the rest of us.

[Dweebston]

I thought it was those with loaded guns, and those who dig.

[Jesus H. Christ]

Man, this went to shit around 19 minutes in. The fat fuck Michael Moore wannabe starts bitching about gun control, and then the "historian" opines about what a great "teacher" Obama is. Gack!!!. Then this Bruce Fein guy comes in about 26 minutes and actually makes some sense. Then, back to Michael Moore-shit, waxing poetic about how great it is to suck the President's dick. Nick finished pretty strong, and then historian-guy continues in self-delusion to think that Obama gives a shit about ending the WoT, or to restoring government respect for the privacy of their citizens.

[Knarf Yenrab (prev. An0nB0t)]

Watching this stuff provides excellent practice in training your heart rate.

In the event of a life-threatening emergency or immanent crisis, I very well may wind up owing my life to Michael Moore's pious burblings.

[Hyperion]

then the "historian" opines about what a great "teacher" Obama is

Teacher of what? How to usurp the most power that you can, relying totally on the ignorance of the masses, while being a totally worthless, jug eared dumbfuck?

[Warrren]

OT: Idiot politician proposes idiotic new corporate structure, idiot Huffer commenters lap it up.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....35752.html

Notice how vague the terms are! Marvel at the simplistic ideology that fomented it! Nod knowingly at how this will be gamed by corporations! Laugh out loud and slap a knee at how in a few years the proggies that support this will feel betrayed and be outraged at it's failure!

[Dweebston]

I'll click through, but I'm quitting reading at the first reference to profit sharing.

[Dweebston]

These businesses, and over 100,000 like them, are profitable, but consider profit to be the means -- not the exclusive end goal -- of their business. They see profits as a means to fuel growth in social impact as well as to generate attractive returns for stockholders.

Money isn't an end, it's a means for consumption. For businesses, consumption means expansion. Expansion like generating "attractive returns for stockholders."

[Dweebston]

Unlike in traditional corporations, whose directors have the sole fiduciary duty to maximize stockholder value, directors of public benefit corporations are required to meet a tri-partite balancing requirement consistent with its public benefit purpose.

In other words, it's a for-profit non-profit. Brilliant. And somewhere between endless meetings with this tripartite bureaucracy they'll win over shareholders from conventional corporations with attractive returns.

I think I see where this is going, and Warrren bops it on the nose: a shell game of internal oversight whilst collecting millions in subsidies from politicians hoping to make this thing work.

[jesse.in.mb]

I got distracted by the Subway article. I'm confused as to the benefit of signing up as one of these corporations. You're company is required to lose money if it changes its goals after incorporation?

[Dweebston]

You know what spells profit? Endless contradictory bylaws and subordination to novel internal and external bureaucracy.

[Suthenboy]

Throughout history, poverty is the normal condition of man. Advances which permit this norm to be exceeded ? here and there, now and then ? are the work of an extremely small minority, frequently despised, often condemned, and almost always opposed by all right-thinking people. Whenever this tiny minority is kept from creating, or (as sometimes happens) is driven out of a society, the people then slip back into abject poverty.
This is known as "bad luck."

*Sigh*

[Paul.]

At around 3:10, was there a young girl being raped in someone's basement?

[Eduard van Haalen]

I'm not sure what you're referring to.

[MappRapp]

Sounds like a pretty good plan to me dude.

http://www.GotMy-Anon.tk

[Jon Lester]

Nick, do you get paid to do this sort of thing, or do you just suffer it for the cause?

[Eduard van Haalen]

So Nick Gillespie *isn't* wearing a jacket, but Alyona Minkovski *is.* This is totally backwards.

[Eduard van Haalen]

Oh, and, Ms. Oppenheimer, are you related to the physicist, or to the diamond people? If the latter, could I be *Mr.* Oppenheimer?

[Eduard van Haalen]

Damn, I posted my creepy stalker stuff on the wrong thread.