Drug Czar, Posing As a Reformer, Emphasizes the Importance of Busting People for Pot

Yesterday drug czar Gil Kerlikowske addressed marijuana legalization in Colorado and Washington, declaring that "the Justice Department's responsibility to enforce the Controlled Substances Act remains unchanged," since "neither a state nor the executive branch can nullify a statute passed by Congress." Yet it is equally true that neither Congress nor the executive branch can nullify a state's decision to stop treating the cultivation, possession, and sale of marijuana as crimes. And since states account for 99 percent of marijuana arrests, that constitutional reality has certain practical implications to which the Obama administration might want to respond at some point. Even if Congress does not act anytime soon to loosen or repeal the federal ban on marijuana, the Justice Department has a great deal of discretion in deciding how to enforce it.
Testifying before a House subcommittee today, Attorney General Eric Holder said he is still mulling that over, five months after residents of Colorado and Washington made history by voting to legalize marijuana. "When it comes to these marijuana initiatives," he said, "I think among the kinds of things we will have to consider is the impact on children." Rep. Andrew Harris (R-Md.), who last week urged Holder to challenge the initiatives in court (despite the iffy legal prospects of that strategy), took advantage of the hearing to do so again. "Your department could choose to attempt to overturn those laws," he said. "That would send a message to America's youth that marijuana is not a safe drug. Kids need clear messages and I'm afraid we're not sending them one." Action is urgent, Harris said, "because children are dying from drugs." (If Harris, who is a physician, has come across a death caused by marijuana, he should publish his findings right away, because that would be a first.) Holder promised Harris the Justice Department will take a position "as quick as we can," which sounds faster than "relatively soon" but probably isn't.
Speaking of sending messages to America's youth, Kerlikowske tried to prove his bona fides as an advocate of "drug policy reform" (yes, he really said that) by criticizing the government-sponsored, pervasively parodied "This Is Your Brain on Drugs" ads of the late 1980s. Kerlikowske prefers "Just Say No." And again, I am not kidding.
The Partnership for a Drug-Free America, which produced the spots Kerlikowske bashed, was still bragging about them as late as 2006.
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"I think among the kinds of things we will have to consider is the impact on children."
Do these stupid fucks ever have any cogent arguments?
No.
So how is everyone liking this season of Game of Thrones? I bet Jaime isn't!
Ouch!
Hmmm, that must be where Warty is. Two near-gangrapes in one episode was too much for him to handle.
He's in his bunk?
Bunk, torture chamber, whatever.
Yeah, he got Munsoned.
You know, he's up a creek without a paddle. He had the whole world in the palm of his HAND and then blew it. It's a figure of speech.
But if non-book-readers found that shocking, just wait until the end of the season where Cersei joins the Night's Watch!
Or Catelyn turning into a zombie!
Come on, if you're going to post fake spoilers, at least do what I did and make them somewhat believable.
"Zombie Catelyn"? That's absurd. No way people will be fooled into thinking GoT would try to mimic the vastly inferior Walking Dead.
You're right, I should be more subtle. But I don't know how!!!
That's alright. I'll just keep banging my head against the wall until I forget what you posted.
I thought they handled it well. The perfect pause when he looked at what had happened, followed by the scream.
But I do not like some emo/punk band doing the song in the credits. Stupid. The National doing Rains of Castamere was nice though.
I liked that song but I hate emos, go figure, eh.
The punk version didn't do it for me. The a cappella version being sung by Bolton's men was much better. Although I didn't pick up on the cunnilingus theme when reading the book version.
Stop pretending anyone but you watches that faggy dungeons & dragons crap, Epi.
Hey, its ratings are good considering it's on a premium channel.
To put it in perspective, GoT gets [checks Wikipedia].......slightly worse ratings than fucking True Blood got during its late-second-to-early-third season period?!
Shit, that's depressing.
I'm sure it does better than Girls, though.
Hugh's just upset because of that time I was Dungeon Master and let his level 12 Paladin get killed by an Umber Hulk. Sorry, Hugh, that's just the way the 20-sided die rolled.
Goddammit. STFU! I'm halfway through season 1.
I hope none of my favourite characters get's offed!
Considering the track record of GoT, your favorite characters are probably very poor insurance risks.
Damn. Just watched season 1 ep 9. Ned just got Boromired.
Gil Kerlikowske, not just Seattle's problem anymore.
Jaw squared. Check.
Eyes steely. Check.
Hair perfect. Check.
Old Glory. Wrapped.
Frown face. Check.
Punchable face. Check.
No logical argument. Check.
He kinda looks like a big dog who just saw a squirrel outside of the window.
Check.
That would send a message to America's youth that marijuana is not a safe drug.
Not safe like putting your hand on an active stovetop?
Not safe like eating crayons?
Not safe like playing dodgeball?
Or not safe like diving into a woodchipper?
There are different kinds of danger.
Please clarify.
because children are dying from drugs.
Children have died from drugs.
Marijuana is a drug.
Children have died from marijuana.
Faulty syllogism is faulty.
When you have nothing else, lie.
Oh, and alt text?
"I'm paid to lie and I'm good at it!"
Not safe as in having overzealous cops and prosecutors put you in the slammer for 10 year where you can be a 'punk'.
Not safe as in having your career prospects destroyed by the same overzealous cops and prosecutors.
Not safe as in having your life savings seized because you kept it in cash.
Not safe as in getting you and your family blown away in a 3 AM SWAT raid.
Not safe as in being coerced into carrying a wire to make a buy from really violent people* so that the cops can try to move up the food chain.
*Who will get a lighter sentence than you anyways because they will rat out everyone else.
Not safe in that black and brown kids get all those results, while connected white kids get rehab.
Oh, and the Dems are all for black and brown kids! Obullshit told me so.
Comeon dude, lets roll that beautiful bean footage!
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Comeon dude, lets roll that beautiful bean footage!
Anonobot is so wasted!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSIZQRi4M6c
Whoever came up with this anti-drug PSA needs to be sent to jail.
LIZARD PEOPLE!
Just feel the need to point out that I personally knew Obama supporters who, as late as 2012, were claiming that he'd ended federal persecution of medical marijuana. Because he promised. Actually pulling out my phone and showing them news stories showing otherwise didn't seem to matter.
They may have still believed it later than then, but that's when I stopped associating with them because I'd had all I could stands and I couldn't stands no more.
"Because he promised."
Ah, well, the intent....
Alt text: I said, "fuck you, that's why".
Alt alt-text: Asshole
I liked mine mo betta, but not well enough to claim a win.
'Cmon, you wordsmiths! Let's see it!
What do you get when you cross a flaming asshole and a prick with ears? Control freak.
Kerlikowske is SCUM. He is also, imo , responsible for Kris Kime's death when, as police chief of Seattle he ordered the police not to intervene with a rioting violent crowd of thugs (it would look bad on teevee to have cops hitting brown people... can't have those bad images after all. Better to let gangbangers victimize innocents) at Mardi Gras.
I know SPD officers who were practically crying because they were held back from doing their job - stopping violent thugs from victimizing innocents and it's Kerlikowske's fault.
He was more concerned with racial identity politics than letting the cops do their job - to protect people.
From Wikipedia:
The day after the riot, local newspapers carried a picture of a black man with brass knuckles engaged in an assault which came to symbolize the riot.[11] An editorial in The Stranger said the incident was racially motivated and that much of the violence was directed at white civilians.[12] Witnesses said gangs of black youth yelled racially charged slurs and sought white victims.[13] Investigations later showed that roughly 75% of the over 100 suspects were black. Many of the suspects had criminal records and were believed to be affiliated with gangs.[14] Some eyewitnesses said that most of the attackers were black but that race was not a factor in who was victimized. According to the Seattle Weekly shortly after the incident, police did not see the attacks as solely or even predominately racial violence.[15]
Racial issues overshadowed the sexual assaults that took place. One man was charged with forcibly fondling a woman. A photograph of a partially nude woman being groped by some two dozen men while lying topless and on her back won an award from the National Press Photographer Association despite not being previously published in a newspaper.[16]
During the incident, Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske ordered the police at the scene not to intervene, instead maintaining a perimeter around the growing violence.[7] The Seattle police force voted a resolution of "no confidence" in Chief Kerlikowske when officers complained of being "held back too long". The City of Seattle acknowledged that the police strategy during the incidents presented a public safety threat, and the City settled with Kime's family for just under $2,000,000. Schell appointed a three member task force panel to investigate the cause of the riots.[17] He instructed them not to discuss the lack of police intervention which the public had been concerned about. Initially task force meetings were closed to the public, but protest forced the city to open them to attendance.
Throngs of men began groping the women as the women exposed themselves.[6] Sporadic fighting broke out at about 10:40 pm. Police donned riot gear and formed lines but did not enter the crowd for the most part. Cars were vandalized and overturned. Small fires were set and the windows of business were shattered. Police were notified that young men were pointing firearms and brandishing other weapons towards people. By midnight, groups roved through the crowd randomly attacking people along the stretch of Yesler Way between First and Second Avenues.[2] Paramedics were not able to reach some victims due to the lack of police control in the area.[7]
The police stood by and did nothing as a group assaulted a female teenager; when a bystander, Kris Kime, attempted to protect her, the group beat him to death.[8] Witnesses said Kime was struck and knocked to the ground as he tried to help the frightened woman who had fallen in the melee. Kime died of massive head injuries.[9] About 70 others were reported injured.[7] Two of the injured had gunshot wounds.[10]
At 12:30 am, 25 to 30 young men advanced on a line of police. The police retreated while bottles and other debris were thrown. A team of bicycle officers made a quick charge toward the crowd with pepper spray before retreating again. Fighting escalated with little police interference until shots were fired at 1:30 am. With the assistance of an armored vehicle, police advanced on the crowd with tear gas, pepper spray, and flashbangs. The crowds were finally dispersed shortly after 2:00 am.[2]
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It was cop-o-crat mandated do nothing cowardice and imo the blackest day for SPD ever. And it all falls on that piece of garbage Kerlikowske's shoulders.
Sorry for the wall of text, but the man is scum. The job of the cops is protect people, even when it might look bad on teevee (oh noes. white cops hitting brown people with sticks). In Kerlikowske's eyes, better to let rioting gangbanging scum victimize innocents and stand by and order his troops to NOT intervene so as not to sully his dept's image. Complete cowardly scumbag
And imo, justice would be Kerlikowske being haunted by Kris Kime (A hero btw) for the rest of his life and into the afterlife, but I don't think he has the conscience or the human decency to feel guilt for the death and countless injuries, rapes, etc. that HE is directly responsible for. That he would be "elevated" to drug czar by Obama shows a lot about Obama's judgment. That's the kind of piece of shit scumbag Obama wants in his administration? Says a lot about Obama too. God, Kerlikowske pisses me off.
From the PoliceOne post linked in the PML:
Ugh. I guess I'm not surprised.
It's a boon for justice. People here (rightly so) get pissed off when cops do stuff without warrants. Getting a warrant has HISTORICALLY been a pain in the ass - drive to the court or the judge's house, wait around, bla bla bla.
Expediting the process improves the justice system. Cops have less of a discincentive just to say "fuck it. A warrant is too much trouble" and blow off the search. A LOT of searches etc. get blown off and the guy is let go because it's too much of a pain to get a warrant and takes too much time.
The problem of course is that most of these warrants are done for drugs and I am against the WOD.
That aside, it's a good thing if the process for getting warrants is streamlined and sped up because it helps cops bring bad guys to justice.
When we do "party patrol" we have specially assigned judges standing by and the process is very streamlined. People are amazed when they deny entry and 20 minutes later, we are demanding entry with a warrant.
Being a libertarian doesn't mean being an apologist for crime. Anything that streamlines the warrant process is a good thing for JUSTICE (War on Drugs bullshit aside).
If the cop just sends in a warrant that's identical for everycase which the judge approves without even bothering to read, it's just a charade.
Nobody says they are IDENTICAL. They are similar, because the fact patterns usually are similar. I've done over 300 dui cases. I've tesfitied as an expert witness. The fact patterns on DUI tend to be similar. That's the nature of the beast.
If a judge approves a warrant without reading it, then he's shirking his duties. Take it up with the judge. Judge's should do their jobs with care and diligence just like cops
So you think that a judge that approves a warrant in "less than five minutes" of it initially being submitted--I'm sure he was just waiting around ready and raring to go the very second it came before him--is actually reading it?
This isn't "getting a warrant". It's a work-around for lazy judges and lazy cops. After all, if every case is different, which it is, why do they have generic forms designed to generate a warrant in five minutes where the only difference on the warrant is the name of the suspect.
If you think that contributes to "justice," you're out of your fucking mind.
Ah yes, more apologism for crime.
Generic forms are not designed with the ONLY difference being the name of the suspect. There are commonalities in DUI and forms that streamline the process are a good thing.
You don't like DUI enforcement . Wonderful
but the reality is most DUI have commonalities. They occur on a way. They involve a vehicle. The operator exhibits certain driving patterns etc.
There are a lot of libertines and DUI apologist posing as libertarians here and threads like this always draw them out.
Streamlining the warrant process is a good thing. I've made over 300 dui arrests and while the reports aren't the same, the vast majority have a number of similarities, because the crime is often committed so similarly.
I never, ever drive a car if I've had so much as one drink, so you can stow that shit right now. I just think it's bullshit that there are canned warrant applications that only require a name to be rubber-stamped and approved without so much as a reading by a judge. It's the antithesis of due process.
Sorry if actually having to have an articulable probable cause is an inconvenience to cops. But it was meant to be that way and should remain so.
Any of those warrant requests ever get turned down? How often?
The problem of course is that most of these warrants are done for drugs and I am against the WOD.
That aside, it's a good thing if the process for getting warrants is streamlined and sped up because it helps cops bring bad guys to justice.
Jesus Christ. I mean...Jesus Christ.
iDon'tCareAboutTheFourthAmendment
Never saw that episode of iCarly. Is that the one with Michelle Obama in it?
Face to face interaction is critical to judging the credibility of any fact witness. This is total fascist bullshit. Someone needs to challenge this. You can't establish probable cause without giving live testimony.
It's my understanding that the President has the authority right now to reschedule drugs, am I wrong? On top of that isn't the DOJ an executive branch department? Can't the President fire the entire DEA? Seems like he can do a lot of nullifying.
Sometimes dude you jsut have to roll with the punches!
http://www.Web-Anon.tk
Say whay you will about "Just Say No," at least it suggests that drug abstenence should be a matter of personal choice and not government compulsion. Indeed, "Just Say No" was attacked in the 1980s not because it was anti-drug, but because it was deemed "too simplistic" for suggesting that the "scourge of drugs" could be defeated without expensive government prevention, treatment and law enforcement programs.
Take that trash somewhere else plzthx
Please. Just. No.
Cartman's turd.
Hate to be the one to tell you, but cops looking at publicly available information doesn't require a warrant. If anyone is in the wrong here, it would be Google (maybe).