DOJ to Protect Us From Higher Beer Prices
American beer drinkers are living in a golden age. In 1980, only 50 breweries were operating in the U.S., and consumers who didn't like watery beer were out of luck. These days, over 2,000 breweries are pumping out an enormous variety of craft beers—though traditional American-style lager still dominates the market. Imported brands are increasingly accessible as well.
Someone needs to tell the Department of Justice.
Worried about consolidation in the industry, the DOJ filed an antitrust suit yesterday to prevent Anheuser-Busch InBev (ABI) from taking over Grupo Modelo. The $20-billion deal would add Corona to ABI's stable of brands, which includes Budweiser, Becks, Goose Island, Michelob, and Stella Artois.
If the deal goes through, ABI and rival MillerCoors would account for more than 70 percent of the country's beer sales. And that, according to the complaint, would lead to less competition and higher prices.
Of course, public policy at all levels of government raises the price of beer. According to an industry group, federal, state, and local taxes account for 45 percent of the cost of beer. State-mandated wholesaling cartels inflate prices. State and local governments impose licensing restrictions on retailers. Some states are the retailers. The list goes on.
To fight the lawsuit, the brewers have hired Christine Varney, who led the DOJ's antitrust unit until 2011. According to The New York Times, Varney is credited with reviving antitrust prosecutions after a period of relative leniency during the second Bush's administration.
Among those celebrating an end to that leniency are the New America Foundation, a think tank that recently urged the DOJ to block the deal because it threatens "delicate moral, economic, and political balances." In its report, the foundation maintains that consolidation in the industry means consumers lack "a true diversity of choice."
Perhaps that resonates with someone, but for me the dizzying variety of beers on offer from craft brewers and major players seem to indicate a plethora of choice—and that maybe regulators should just leave awesome enough alone.
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Of course we need this antitrust enforcement. No one would ever be able to produce beer that people want to drink without millions of dollars. What do you think I'm going to do, make some beer on my stove for $40?
i'm bottling mine tomorrow.
I've got a bottle of saison on my desk that my coworker made and brought in for me to try.
HOMEBREW THREAD!
I'm making a pale ale tomorrow. With yeast preserved from a previous batch. No more shall I be a slave to the yeast cartel. 5 gallons of beer for the price of 2 six packs.
I haven't done any beers cheaper than about $30 for a batch.
My mead was like $20.
Are you buying the malt in bulk or something?
This is the grain room in our neighborhood homebrew outfit.
http://hamiltoncreekbrewery.co...../index.php
SAISON THREAD!
i've got an IPA going. it's my first attempt.
I see your future. I see a beer being drank very slowly and taking a long time to be used up.
works for me
Haha - as we speak I'm slowly sipping one of the last bottles of my first batch ever. It's like a year old because it was so nasty I've been drinking very slowly. 8 months of aging helped a bit, but it's still a sour, flat, crappy beer. I've gotten much, much better ever since. Good luck NoVA.
ah. misunderstood his point.
well, it can't be any worse that the gluten-free stuff my wife brought home. i'm choking that down.
Don't fret. My first (real) batch a few months ago turned out pretty damned good. Lots of body, lots of head, really malty, just a bit hoppy, smooth with a crisp finish. I was really surprised. I just used Amber DME, cascade and nugget hops, East Coast Ale yeast and Deer Park spring water. The second batch with different ingredients wasn't as tasty, but still pretty good in my book. I'll bet you'll be able to get the right ingredients and it'll be fine. As long as the ingredients are good, it's hard to fuck it up. Next batch I'm going to try all grain, maybe partial mash.
For people who are otherwise competent in cooking and probably home brewing as well, the biggest mistake is always overdoing flavors, or disturbing the product too much. Hops and other add ins are dangerous.
I don't worry about flavors - I almost always add something, be it apricots, spices, chili peppers, chocolate, etc. and haven't had any problems. You just have to make sure to prepare them correctly before you pitch them in your beer. For fruits, boil and freeze overnight, then thaw in the fridge. Never dry hopped, but I don't like hops much.
Sanitation is everything. Starsan made all the difference in the world. Also, quickly cooling the wort - that was my mistake with the first beer. When the first few bags of ice couldn't get the temperature down fast enough, we went to dinner with it sitting in my sink for a few hours, before finding out that this was one of the most important parts of the process.
Tomorrow I'm bottling a chilli pepper chocolate stout and a Belgian strong ale and kegging a honey-ginger-apricot witbier.
If done right, chili pepper stouts are damn good. Good luck!
The flat unrefrigerated version in the bottling fermenter is fantastic. I added ancho, chipotle and guajillo to the secondary - was actually trying to model my recipe off New Belgium's Cocoa Mole, which is a porter but one of my favorite beers ever.
I'm about to finish mine this weekend as well. I steeped ancho and guajillo peppers in about six ounces of tequila and then steeped cacao nibs, cinnamon sticks and vanilla beans in another six ounces. Then I'll add the extracts to the keg to taste; my big worry would be making it too spicy. A nice slow burn in the finish works, but you don't want to end up with Cave Creek Chili Beer!
Yeah. Try to sell it, though. The Beer Code makes the Tax Code look like "Dick and Jane."
Pay to make beer? I got paid to make 400 barrels yesterday 😉
I pay $16.95 for a 4-pack of Surly Abrasive Ale. I couldn't give two fucks about the price of frog-piss beer. Of course fuck the DOJ for this bullshit.
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/s.....le/116859/
Send me some Darkness and some Coffee Bender and I'll love you forever.
I get both of those and all of the others that they sell. Bitter Brewer is great, as are Fest, Hell, Furious, Cynic, Wet, Bender...
This beer is so awesome, that public pressure caused the state to throw out some 100-year-old law, so they can open a one-stop beer joint:
It's a happy day for hoppy beer fans in Minnesota.
Hours after the Legislature adjourned without a budget agreement, Gov. Mark Dayton signed into law what has been dubbed the "Surly bill" around Capitol hallways. The legislation allows the Brooklyn Center-based Surly Brewing Co. to serve pints of their beer at a proposed $20 million "destination brewery."
Minnesota breweries were not allowed to serve pints of their beer on site because of a "three-tier" system that strictly separated the roles of alcohol manufacturers, distributors and retailers. Soon brewers can apply for a license to do just that, as long as their municipality decides to offer it.
The Minnesota Licensed Beverage Association, the state's most powerful liquor lobby, initially fought the proposal to protect that three-tier system. Surly hired its own lobbyists to advocate on their behalf and mobilized a grassroots network of supporters known as "Surly nation."
"That's really what made the difference I think, is that people contacted their legislators and they listened," said Omar Ansari, owner of Surly Brewing Co.
http://www.startribune.com/pol.....36608.html
Everything beginning with "It's a happy day for hoppy beer fans in Minnesota." should be in quotes.
I've had Furious, Abrasive, Cynic and Bender. All outstanding, and bonus points for being in cans.
Anheuser-BOOSCH already gives loads in donations. Maybe the DOJ is angling for even more. More likely, I think, is that the prosecutors are doing this at the behest of distributors concerned about AB having too much pricing power and cutting into their rents.
You're very close to the real reason. It isn't pricing power though, it's distribution power. A-B has been trying to get more and more of the distribution business.
The problem with THAT of course is the limitation on distribution so many states have. With all the craft brands around today there should be a shitload of small distributors. In reality, most states limit the number of distributors which gave the dukes of distribution (anointed by the princes of state liquor boards) a lot of power they wouldn't have in a free market.
Fuck the tier system.
On average I spend twenty bucks or so to make a five gallon batch.
That's two bucks a six pack.
Kegging cuts way down on the bottling time, which makes it an even better deal. Have you tried that?
I start with whole grain and end with the pull of a tap.
Yep, all grain and kegs are the way to go.
I have enough room for five kegs in the converted chest freezer, and enough kegs to fill it. The goal is to have it full of lagers before the basement gets too warm to brew them.
With a proper thermostat, you can use that chest freezer to brew regardless of outside temperature, you know.
I ferment only in glass. I'm not lifting a glass carboy in and out of a chest freezer.
I've been eyeballing this for a while.
One of the things that has been making me consider buying a house is the allure of having more space and ability to customize....
So I can do stuff like set up kegging for homebrews. And make a man cave in the basement.
One of the best investments I made for my home brewery was a stainless sink like you see in the back of a kitchen. Beats the fuck out of cleaning things in the tub.
I have a three-bay, stainless steel sink in the basement with a commercial kitchen sprayer.
You should plumb your whole house with a beer line.
Now you're thinking.
I live in a 1000 sq feet apartment and am kegging my homebrews from now on. We put a kegerator that I can covert for the homebrew kegs on our wedding registry.
The only difficult thing is it is harder to temperature regulate the brewing. We just put the stuff in the bath tub that we never use.
I'm brewing a red ale this weekend that will be my first to be kegged.
Fuck the DOJ, FTC, SEC, antitrust laws, and competitive regulations.
Shitty beer can get as expensive as it wants. It will only improve demand for craft beers.
So bureaucrat goes to DOJ, revives anti-trust prosecutions. Then leaves and gets a huge payday defending huge mega-brewery against anti-trust lawsuit. And the circle of life continues...
P.S. Just kegged a Franconian Dunkel and hoping to finish up my mole stout this weekend--assuming the DOJ will allow it.
mmm....dunkel
Why, in these times of war and debt are we paying people to think up ways to fuck with beer companies?
Rent seekers gotta rent seek.
Can someone tell me what style would best describe this last brew of mine?
I used pilsner malt as the base with some crystal for body, then added an ounce each of black patent, chocolate malt, and roasted barley.
For hops I used an ounce of Saaz for bitter (not very bitter at 3.8% alpha), another half for ten and a quarter in the secondary.
Brewed with lager yeast at lager temps. Starting gravity was in the 040 range IIRC, and it finished under 010.
Is there a name for this style other than "sarcy's dark lager"?
I don't know (the Germans probably have a word for it), but it sounds good. I haven't been ambitious enough to bother getting set up for lagers, but I made a similar ale once which has been one of my favorits that I have made. Really pale malt for the base, with roasted barley and black patent added. I think I used more American style hops.
My coworker accidentally did a lager (the homebrew store guy said it was his favorite to do) for his first one. We'll find out how it went in about 2 weeks.
How can one accidentally make a lager. Fermentation temperature and location are different than those in an ale, as well as the type of yeast used. I has a confuse...
It sound like they accidentally chose to make a lager with no experience as their first home brew ever and therefor are going to fuck it up probably.
Sounds kind of like a Schwarzbier.
It's kind of like a Schwarzbier, but it's gonna be WAY too roasty for the style. If the gravity is high enough, it might qualify as a Baltic porter (though it should probably have more Munich and/or some crystal malt in there), but 1040 is way too low for a Baltic. I think "sarcy's dark lager" is as accurate as you're gonna get.
Yeah, I was going to say Baltic Porter until I saw he said 1040... also only an ounce of Saaz for bittering would have been a little low for something in the Baltic Porter gravity range.
It's like a cross between a schwarzbier and a stout I guess.
The problem is, only about 5-6 percent of the population drinks good beer like that Troegs Nugget Nectar in my fridge right now.
Craft beer sales is little more of a rounding error compared to Bud and Miller and Coors sales. I think in this case their is a role for anti-trust stuff.
Fuck you and your access to Nugget Nectar...Shit was impossible to get a hold of this year.
I'm local. I think the distributors in the Harrisburg region bitched, too, because they all seemed to get pallet-loads of NN this year.
Come to southcentral PA and I can hook you up for $42 a case at Red Land Beer and Soda, or $45 at Glen Miller's.
I wish...It seems odd to want to get beer from....PA.
C'mon, our immigrants were Germans and Scots Irish. We do great beer and caused the Whisky Rebellion.
Stoudt's was among the earliest micro breweries in the US, starting in the 1980s. Their Gold is superb.
We're the home to Yuengling, of course, and Straub's endless tap in St. Mary's. And Troegs and Victory. Weyerbacher makes awesome big beers. Yards in Philly, and Philly is one of America's greatest beer towns.
Tons of good craft beer here.
Victory Hop Wallop is my current favorite.
I know, I was referring to the odd package store laws that I remember from years back. You have Troegs and Weyerbacher, I could survive just drinking beers from those two breweries. How can I look down on the PA craft scene, I live in TN.
It's not much of a problem. If there were much higher demand for good beers, the quality would probably go down. This is stupid for economic reasons, but beer-wise, I don't care.
I think that's a problem created by government. Beer is really easy to make. The licensing and distribution rules make it nearly impossible to sell. Home brewing can and should be a cottage industry. People often ask me if I want to take my home brewing and turn pro and the answer is hell no. If I could scale things up and sell to bars or my neighbors, that would be different, but the gap between hobby brewing and the minimums for commercial brewing is just too big.
I have been asked repeatedly if I would ever sell mead commercially. I even had a small wine shop owner tell me not to worry about all the TTB paperwork, she'd be happy to sell my stuff without the proper licenses (some people are too dumb to stay in business very long).
If people don't want to pay more for shitty beer, then they will either buy better beer or find other things to consume. Monopolies are a figment of imagination until one organization owns all alternatives to everything.
Bud, Miller and Coors are beer?
Perhaps I'm wrong, but I've tasted them, and I don't think they are.
This is the tax fight we have in TN. Our effective tax rate per barrel of beer is $37,the highest in the nation (Missouri, by contrast has an effective rate of less than $2 per barrel) so our craft industry is small. We are petitioning the state to fix it. We'll see how that goes...
http://www.fixthebeertax.com/
The beer tax should be the same as all other sales tax rates. In other words, fuck excise taxes.
That's insane. How does the state justify this level of taxation?
That's almost a PA level of insanity. My state still has an 18 percent tax on liquor and wine that was enacted "temporarily" in 1936 to pay for the second coming of the Johnstown flood.
There should at least be enough money saved now in case Johnstown floods again, right?
Well, the town flooded again in 1977, so 40 years of tax revenue apparently didn't do squat for flood mitigation.
The tax revenue goes right into the general fund. That allows the state-owned liquor store system to brag about how much money they generate for the state, those commie bastards.
We also have a 17% wholesale tax. 17 fucking percent. Most of the local hopheads get beer in KY or GA.
All together now...Fuck You, that's why!
Someone above said if craft beers got more popular, their quality would go down.
The fed excise tax on beer barrels used to be $60. Blatz was the first large brewer to used bottles to avoid the excise tax. Then they moved the bottler across the street from the brewery (piping system) to avoid the excise taxes on bottles AT a brewery.
Shitty beer exists BECAUSE of government. Every step they interfere with forces the brewer to reduce costs in some way. What happens is as a craft brewer sees demand increasing, they are forced to consider selling to a conglomerate because at some point expansion puts them into a higher level of regulation.
Although I think InBev certainly has the right to buy Modelo, I hope they don't. I do my best to stay away from the yellow water that Inbev calls beer, and actually don't mind corona on occasion.
I mind Corona. I mind the distance between its personal space and mine.
I like Stella, though it is way too expensive in the US. And Modelo Negro is way better than Corona.
I recently found out that one of my friend's from undergrad who never seemed worried about finding a job is related to the family that owns InBev. Her care free "I'm gonna TA or something this year" attitude makes a lot more sense now.
Also, visiting her houses in RI started to give it away.
I will commend InBev for at least bringing Stella to the US. It's not a bad European-style lager, plus it gives douches something other than Heineken to order at the bar in an effort to look cool.
The problem with corona is that there are so many other mexican beers that are better. Sol, Modelo (both Negro and Especial) and Bohemia are better to me. Hell, I prefer a Tecate with a lime and it's cheaper.
InBev already owns half of Modelo anyway.
They came for the beer makers and I did nothing, because I don't drink beer.
Get out.
We've replaced you with that ace guy.
I could offer you a nice mead or red wine. Would that get me back in?
Wine. How classy people get shit-faced.
Can you make me a cyser? Like B.Nektar Zombie Killer. That shit is ridiculously tasty.
If you brew all grain, you can make cyser.
Yeah, but I want to try yours. And, shit, I should make a cyser...
the email address under my handle works
i hope he knows what he signed up for
God damn, of all the stupid shit going on these days, this is what made me scream out "Laissez-faire!"
Just let it be, eggheads. The world might survive without your oh-so-clever tinkering.
Modelo Negro? Like Tyra Banks?