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I voted for Paul in the primaries. I wasn't a Johnson fanboy, I just thought he was clearly the best candidate in the general election. But I am curious as tho why you think America may embrace paleo or "law and order" (ignoring the contradictory nature of your brand of "libertarianism") but not cosmotarianism? The country seems to moving in the direction of cosmotarianism more than the other two
The demographics that are growing are all social conservatives. This is certainly true in the GOP.
And gay marriage getting outlawed by popular vote in one of the bluest elections in the bluest of the blue states puts the lie to the idea that the parts of the Dem party that are growing are flaming social liberals.
Gay marriage lost narrowly four years ago. It's won in a couple other states. Society is definitely moving towards acceptance of gay marriage. Was legal gay marriage even thinkable twenty years ago?
That's the moderates and old white liberals. Contrary to Welch/Gillespie's book, independents are not the demographic winners of the future. Independents voted for Mitt Romney by a relatively large margin.
I will not be donating money, because I dislike the open borders crap. I was born in America, and I intened to live here all my life. America, not Mexico, not Somalia, America. The American way of life, capitalism, science, peace, amoung other things, must be preserved. Nigeria, a slumland of crime, war, and stupidity, is not the country I want to live in. I want to live in a land free from crime. I want to live in a capitalist country. I want the environment to be protected, I don't it to be destroyed to make way for even more low-income housing. I don't want a billion people here, overwhelming our schools and our prisons and backrupting our welfare state. I want my children to be able to go to school without fearing that they will be stabbed. I don't want the prices for housing, food, gas, and everything else to skyrocket, as they demand their "fair share" of our nation. I don't want ten thousand muslims marching through my country, demanding my right to free speech be taken away, as recently happened in the nation of my ancestors. Reason does some good work in adovocating for capitalism, but in supporting this, will not be recieving my money. I will be donating to VDARE.com
"Indeed. The biggest blindspot libertarians have is that everyone is just like them, that people are secretly libertarian inside."
Really? After reading all the threads here, and hearing people's takes on the masses, you come to the conclusion that libertarians think everyone else is libertarian? Also, given your next paragraph, I love the implication that it's only those Hipanics and Muslims (and whatever foreign groups you want to add to the list) that aren't secretly libertarian. People immigrate for a reason. Cultures don't remain static over generations. And I would hardly say every Hispanic country is totalitarian. Chile ranks higher than the US in economic freedom indexes. And there are plenty of examples of immigrant groups differing strongly from their home country. I mean, Cuba is communist so obviously Cuban Americans support communism, right?
The Indians were done in by disease and warfare. It's not like they all just welcomed Europeans with open arms. Similarly, Mexico lost the West (which was very sparsely populated and most of it was only under nominal Mexican control) in a war with the US, including a lot of land where virtually no white people lived. Did the US become a part of Germany by letting in Germans? How about Italy? Or Ireland? Or Poland?
"People immigrate for a reason"
Yeah, they want a piece of our country. They don't admire it.
"Cultures don't remain static over generations"
Muslim and Hispanic culture has stayed pretty much the same since the 600s and 1500s, respectivley. Simply because we abandoned PARTS of our culture doesn't mean they will.
As I have said previoulsy about Chile, it is mostly European, and has had neoliberalism FORCED on it.
Cubans would support "communism" if immigration was allowed by their government. The mass of non-white poor cubans are not at all like the white elite that escaped to the United States. But you knew that.
"It's not like they all just welcomed Europeans with open arms."
I think JeremyR was using irony. Big word, I know.
You really think that Mexico's loss of it's territories had nothing to do with the presence of thousands of armed white setteers in Texas? Mexicans don't shoot themselves.
And America is a European country, historically always settled by Europeans.
Yeah, they want a piece of our country. They don't admire it.
I know I always live in places I dislike! I always avoid the areas I think look nice.
Muslim and Hispanic culture has stayed pretty much the same since the 600s and 1500s, respectivley. Simply because we abandoned PARTS of our culture doesn't mean they will.
Well actually, no. For starters, look up the "Islamic Golden Age". For another, multiple countries in the Middle East are not, culturally, the same way they were decades ago. Afghanistan is a good example. Qatar. I forget the name, but I remember reading an article about a Middle Eastern country that used to be very secular, with women in bikinis and everything (in some ways similar to how Afghanistan used to be). Hispanic cultures aren't exactly a monoculture either, and have changed significantly as well over time.
I love how he didn't even name the country and you say that with confidence. Even today, there are parts of the ME where you can and find women in bikinis. Turkey, while they have their problems, is certainly more modern than most other countries, which kinda contradicts the notion that Islamic societies can't change. Persians, despite the backwards government, are actually fairly modern as a people. Most of them aren't hardcore followers of the mullahs. Persian-Americans are very successful and well-assimilated. Muslims in general do pretty well economically, and until 9/11 and its aftermath, were a solid Republican voting block, which we know is so important to you
Can't quite remember which country it was. Wasn't Iraq or Afghanistan, wasn't Qatar or Saudi Arabia. If I saw the name I'd recognize it, but can't remember off the top of my head. What I do remember is interviews with burqa-clothed women who remembered being able to go outside without them, and wearing bikinis and things to the beach.
blockquoteAs I have said previoulsy about Chile, it is mostly European, and has had neoliberalism FORCED on it.
If it doesn't fit your preconception it's not a "real" hispanic culture. I see.
Cubans would support "communism" if immigration was allowed by their government.
I'm sure all the ones who've fled Cuba would agree with you. Or how about the ones in Cuba now who are persecuted for not being good little stooges?
The mass of non-white poor cubans are not at all like the white elite that escaped to the United States.
It's all about color, apparently. Except when it's not- which is ALL THE TIME. Do you and Chris Mallory suck each other all the time, or only sometimes?
And America is a European country,
Except for not being in Europe.
historically always settled by Europeans.
Except for the Africans. And Asians. And hey, wasn't South America settled mostly by Europeans? Guess that doesn't really mean much.
People of predominately European ancestry are the majority in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile. Venezuela and Colombia are pretty triracial, but IIRC the average person is more European than they are African or indigenous. That's a solid majority of South America (the only other countries are Ecuador, Peru, and Bolivia, where indigenous descent predominates, and then Suriname, Guyana, and French Guiana, which aren't Hispanic, where African and Asian Indian ancestry is most common)
"Yeah, they want a piece of our country."
If they purchase some land, or rent it from someone else, I don't know why I'm supposed to object to this.
"They don't admire it."
And your evidence of this is ...?
"Muslim and Hispanic culture has stayed pretty much the same since the 600s and 1500s, respectivley. Simply because we abandoned PARTS of our culture doesn't mean they will."
Ignoring the accuracy of the first sentence, I thought it was pretty clear I was referring to the culture of immigrant groups over generations. Which has never been static. Do you seriously think Muslims and Hispanics in the US have the exact same culture as the people in their home countries? That there hasn't been any degree of assimilation? Also, Latin American culture is heavily based in Spanish culture, which is really the only thing that unites all the different Hispanic groups, and last time I checked, Spaniards are white Europeans. And most Latin Americans have significant European ancestry.
"As I have said previoulsy about Chile, it is mostly European, and has had neoliberalism FORCED on it."
It's European in the sense that Spanish is the largest ancestry. Most people have significant indigenous ancestry. You've said in the past that it's heavily "Northern European" which is patently false, as Germans are the largest northern Euro group at less than 5% of the population.
Do you seriously think Muslims and Hispanics in the US have the exact same culture as the people in their home countries?
He does, because he paints non-Europeans with a broad brush and nothing you say will convince him otherwise. See his laughable comments regarding Cubans.
(cont)Chile has been a democracy for over 20 years and has only gotten more free economically since then. Argentina is whiter than Chile and is well-known for its economic populism
"Cubans would support "communism" if immigration was allowed by their government. The mass of non-white poor cubans are not at all like the white elite that escaped to the United States. But you knew that."
If they support communism, why would they leave Cuba? And it's not like white Cubans totally opposed the Revolution. The Castros and Che aren't/weren't black last time I checked. In any case, my only point was that it's an example of an immigrant group that differs significantly from the ancestral country
"You really think that Mexico's loss of it's territories had nothing to do with the presence of thousands of armed white setteers in Texas? Mexicans don't shoot themselves."
When people say the US took the West from Mexico, it really isn't accurate. The vast majority of the West was either uninhabited or still controlled by Native Americans. California was one of the more densely populated areas and it's non-Native population (both Anglo and Hispanic) at the end of the Mexican-American War was 15,000. I don't think people really realize how few people (aside from the natives) lived in the West at the time
"And America is a European country, historically always settled by Europeans."
America is and has always been a country mostly populated by people of European descent. It's always been significantly different from Europe. But being American isn't dependent on race or ethnicity. Non-whites have always been a significant part of the US and have always had a significant impact on its history. And if you wanted to get more specific, America was historically a country populated by people of British descent. Today, they form a minority of the population, even among white people. What's your point? No one is entitled to more rights because they have a similar skin tone to the guys who wrote the Declaration of Independence
More white people are murdered, raped, etc by white men than they are hispanic or black men (let alone hispanic or black women). Most violent crime is intraracial. The difference in crime rate between Hispanics and whites also varies heavily by region, and much of whatever difference there is is due to gender and age demographics
Oh, I see. If you enjoy having a penis thrust into your rectum that's OK, but if you enjoy sitting at home arguing with strangers in your underwear about immigration that's not OK.
Look ma'am, no disrespect, but the only way you'd know if my "you know what was showing, would be when it was wrapped around your fucking neck right before I started your head up like a goddamn lawn mower.
Memo From Middle America | Obama's Administrative Amnesty Not Applicable To White, Legal, English Girl. And While We're On The Subject, Aren't British Immigrants Preferable To Mexican Immigrants Anyway?*
Wow, you called it GS. Perfect.
*this is totally fucking real, and from the actual site. no shit.
This reminds me of the thread a couple days ago where I made a post saying how progressives often made a certain argument that was inherently hypocritical, and in the time it took for me to write that post, Tony made the exact same argument I was talking about in a different part of the thread. Or all the times trolls, or people on other websites make serious arguments that we view as jokes ("SOMALIA! ROADZ!") here. It's scary how reality can imitate parody
Ya, it is, I saw it myself. British immigrants are preferable to Mexicans. Think of it this way. In an economy you have two types of people, those who use their brains to produce wealth, and those who exploit either other people or the environment. British belong to the first catagory, Mexicans, to the second. Would you rather live in Britain or Mexico? Would you rather live in a Mexican area or a Anglo-American area? Some people here think that fearing blacks is somehow irrational. Calidissident, would you send your children to a black school? Answer the question.
So much for your objection to immigration being because they support socialism. We all know modern British people just love capitalism and hate socialism, right?
IMO American is a hilarious troll. His orthography errors and generally poor command of English are a fine touch, how ironic! And I tell you this as a libertarian from Latin America (whose very existence is impossible according to his collectivistic ideas)
I'm still working on my clever banner entry.
Sorry, I had to give my donation money to Mitt Romney to counteract Reason's nitpicking.
Yeah, because criticizing someone who you have vast disagreements with on virtually every issue is nitpicking
Please stop nitpicking Tulpa Doom. He's like a modern Barry Goldwater, except without the consistency.
I would have beat the crap out of Gary Johnson if I were running.
Are we supposed to be impressed?
I don't think you understand.
If America turns to libertarianism, it will not be a cosmotarian type. It will be a Ron Paul paleo type or a Tulpa law-and-order type.
I voted for Paul in the primaries. I wasn't a Johnson fanboy, I just thought he was clearly the best candidate in the general election. But I am curious as tho why you think America may embrace paleo or "law and order" (ignoring the contradictory nature of your brand of "libertarianism") but not cosmotarianism? The country seems to moving in the direction of cosmotarianism more than the other two
The demographics that are growing are all social conservatives. This is certainly true in the GOP.
And gay marriage getting outlawed by popular vote in one of the bluest elections in the bluest of the blue states puts the lie to the idea that the parts of the Dem party that are growing are flaming social liberals.
Gay marriage lost narrowly four years ago. It's won in a couple other states. Society is definitely moving towards acceptance of gay marriage. Was legal gay marriage even thinkable twenty years ago?
That's the moderates and old white liberals. Contrary to Welch/Gillespie's book, independents are not the demographic winners of the future. Independents voted for Mitt Romney by a relatively large margin.
You know, stuff like that is the sort of thing that knocks a guy out of the running for President.
I already have a new follower in the other thread. Law and order libertarianism is more fecund than the octomom, you'll see.
Which other thread?
My donation went to the "Free Warty" fund. The Warty was free, but I bought the extended service plan. Trust me, you want the warantee.
KFC? reason already did it!
I will not be donating money, because I dislike the open borders crap. I was born in America, and I intened to live here all my life. America, not Mexico, not Somalia, America. The American way of life, capitalism, science, peace, amoung other things, must be preserved. Nigeria, a slumland of crime, war, and stupidity, is not the country I want to live in. I want to live in a land free from crime. I want to live in a capitalist country. I want the environment to be protected, I don't it to be destroyed to make way for even more low-income housing. I don't want a billion people here, overwhelming our schools and our prisons and backrupting our welfare state. I want my children to be able to go to school without fearing that they will be stabbed. I don't want the prices for housing, food, gas, and everything else to skyrocket, as they demand their "fair share" of our nation. I don't want ten thousand muslims marching through my country, demanding my right to free speech be taken away, as recently happened in the nation of my ancestors. Reason does some good work in adovocating for capitalism, but in supporting this, will not be recieving my money. I will be donating to VDARE.com
Heard it all already. Fuck off, you Chris Mallory wannabe.
Indeed. The biggest blindspot libertarians have is that everyone is just like them, that people are secretly libertarian inside.
But it's just not true. Culture matters. Hispanics have a culture of totalitarianism, so do Muslims (a religious based one).
And just ask the American Indians how open immigration worked out for them. Or Mexico allowing settlers in the SW of what is now the US.
"Indeed. The biggest blindspot libertarians have is that everyone is just like them, that people are secretly libertarian inside."
Really? After reading all the threads here, and hearing people's takes on the masses, you come to the conclusion that libertarians think everyone else is libertarian? Also, given your next paragraph, I love the implication that it's only those Hipanics and Muslims (and whatever foreign groups you want to add to the list) that aren't secretly libertarian. People immigrate for a reason. Cultures don't remain static over generations. And I would hardly say every Hispanic country is totalitarian. Chile ranks higher than the US in economic freedom indexes. And there are plenty of examples of immigrant groups differing strongly from their home country. I mean, Cuba is communist so obviously Cuban Americans support communism, right?
The Indians were done in by disease and warfare. It's not like they all just welcomed Europeans with open arms. Similarly, Mexico lost the West (which was very sparsely populated and most of it was only under nominal Mexican control) in a war with the US, including a lot of land where virtually no white people lived. Did the US become a part of Germany by letting in Germans? How about Italy? Or Ireland? Or Poland?
"People immigrate for a reason"
Yeah, they want a piece of our country. They don't admire it.
"Cultures don't remain static over generations"
Muslim and Hispanic culture has stayed pretty much the same since the 600s and 1500s, respectivley. Simply because we abandoned PARTS of our culture doesn't mean they will.
As I have said previoulsy about Chile, it is mostly European, and has had neoliberalism FORCED on it.
Cubans would support "communism" if immigration was allowed by their government. The mass of non-white poor cubans are not at all like the white elite that escaped to the United States. But you knew that.
"It's not like they all just welcomed Europeans with open arms."
I think JeremyR was using irony. Big word, I know.
You really think that Mexico's loss of it's territories had nothing to do with the presence of thousands of armed white setteers in Texas? Mexicans don't shoot themselves.
And America is a European country, historically always settled by Europeans.
I know I always live in places I dislike! I always avoid the areas I think look nice.
Well actually, no. For starters, look up the "Islamic Golden Age". For another, multiple countries in the Middle East are not, culturally, the same way they were decades ago. Afghanistan is a good example. Qatar. I forget the name, but I remember reading an article about a Middle Eastern country that used to be very secular, with women in bikinis and everything (in some ways similar to how Afghanistan used to be). Hispanic cultures aren't exactly a monoculture either, and have changed significantly as well over time.
The British educated elites wore bikinis, the masses of the 99.9% did not. Anyway the expulsion of the Britianized elite is a tribute to continuity.
I love how he didn't even name the country and you say that with confidence. Even today, there are parts of the ME where you can and find women in bikinis. Turkey, while they have their problems, is certainly more modern than most other countries, which kinda contradicts the notion that Islamic societies can't change. Persians, despite the backwards government, are actually fairly modern as a people. Most of them aren't hardcore followers of the mullahs. Persian-Americans are very successful and well-assimilated. Muslims in general do pretty well economically, and until 9/11 and its aftermath, were a solid Republican voting block, which we know is so important to you
Can't quite remember which country it was. Wasn't Iraq or Afghanistan, wasn't Qatar or Saudi Arabia. If I saw the name I'd recognize it, but can't remember off the top of my head. What I do remember is interviews with burqa-clothed women who remembered being able to go outside without them, and wearing bikinis and things to the beach.
blockquoteAs I have said previoulsy about Chile, it is mostly European, and has had neoliberalism FORCED on it.
If it doesn't fit your preconception it's not a "real" hispanic culture. I see.
I'm sure all the ones who've fled Cuba would agree with you. Or how about the ones in Cuba now who are persecuted for not being good little stooges?
It's all about color, apparently. Except when it's not- which is ALL THE TIME. Do you and Chris Mallory suck each other all the time, or only sometimes?
Except for not being in Europe.
Except for the Africans. And Asians. And hey, wasn't South America settled mostly by Europeans? Guess that doesn't really mean much.
"And hey, wasn't South America settled mostly by Europeans?"
No
People of predominately European ancestry are the majority in Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay and Chile. Venezuela and Colombia are pretty triracial, but IIRC the average person is more European than they are African or indigenous. That's a solid majority of South America (the only other countries are Ecuador, Peru, and Bolivia, where indigenous descent predominates, and then Suriname, Guyana, and French Guiana, which aren't Hispanic, where African and Asian Indian ancestry is most common)
"Yeah, they want a piece of our country."
If they purchase some land, or rent it from someone else, I don't know why I'm supposed to object to this.
"They don't admire it."
And your evidence of this is ...?
"Muslim and Hispanic culture has stayed pretty much the same since the 600s and 1500s, respectivley. Simply because we abandoned PARTS of our culture doesn't mean they will."
Ignoring the accuracy of the first sentence, I thought it was pretty clear I was referring to the culture of immigrant groups over generations. Which has never been static. Do you seriously think Muslims and Hispanics in the US have the exact same culture as the people in their home countries? That there hasn't been any degree of assimilation? Also, Latin American culture is heavily based in Spanish culture, which is really the only thing that unites all the different Hispanic groups, and last time I checked, Spaniards are white Europeans. And most Latin Americans have significant European ancestry.
"As I have said previoulsy about Chile, it is mostly European, and has had neoliberalism FORCED on it."
It's European in the sense that Spanish is the largest ancestry. Most people have significant indigenous ancestry. You've said in the past that it's heavily "Northern European" which is patently false, as Germans are the largest northern Euro group at less than 5% of the population.
He does, because he paints non-Europeans with a broad brush and nothing you say will convince him otherwise. See his laughable comments regarding Cubans.
(cont)Chile has been a democracy for over 20 years and has only gotten more free economically since then. Argentina is whiter than Chile and is well-known for its economic populism
"Cubans would support "communism" if immigration was allowed by their government. The mass of non-white poor cubans are not at all like the white elite that escaped to the United States. But you knew that."
If they support communism, why would they leave Cuba? And it's not like white Cubans totally opposed the Revolution. The Castros and Che aren't/weren't black last time I checked. In any case, my only point was that it's an example of an immigrant group that differs significantly from the ancestral country
"You really think that Mexico's loss of it's territories had nothing to do with the presence of thousands of armed white setteers in Texas? Mexicans don't shoot themselves."
When people say the US took the West from Mexico, it really isn't accurate. The vast majority of the West was either uninhabited or still controlled by Native Americans. California was one of the more densely populated areas and it's non-Native population (both Anglo and Hispanic) at the end of the Mexican-American War was 15,000. I don't think people really realize how few people (aside from the natives) lived in the West at the time
"And America is a European country, historically always settled by Europeans."
America is and has always been a country mostly populated by people of European descent. It's always been significantly different from Europe. But being American isn't dependent on race or ethnicity. Non-whites have always been a significant part of the US and have always had a significant impact on its history. And if you wanted to get more specific, America was historically a country populated by people of British descent. Today, they form a minority of the population, even among white people. What's your point? No one is entitled to more rights because they have a similar skin tone to the guys who wrote the Declaration of Independence
I will be donating to VDARE.com
I think you should save your money. Perhaps invest in some paragraph administration and hyperbole management courses at the local community college.
Never mind, in college you might have to sit next to a Mexican, or GASP!, a black guy. Just stay home and rant in your underwear.
Why should this bother him? Everyone knows Africa is a hotbed of libertarianism, such as Somalia.
'Cause black people scare his kids with knives at school, or something.
Culture of totalitarianism!
I went to school with hispanics, and white kids like me had plenty of justification to be scared.
You seem like a pretty tough customer, I wouldn't imagine those other kids messed with you much.
More white people are murdered, raped, etc by white men than they are hispanic or black men (let alone hispanic or black women). Most violent crime is intraracial. The difference in crime rate between Hispanics and whites also varies heavily by region, and much of whatever difference there is is due to gender and age demographics
Oh, I see. If you enjoy having a penis thrust into your rectum that's OK, but if you enjoy sitting at home arguing with strangers in your underwear about immigration that's not OK.
Your you know what is showing.
Look ma'am, no disrespect, but the only way you'd know if my "you know what was showing, would be when it was wrapped around your fucking neck right before I started your head up like a goddamn lawn mower.
This is why we can't have nice anarchies.
Here, watch these people shoot a KIA up, you'll feel better.
NOPE!! Sorry, your Marxist college professor can earn his own living, he's not getting any of my money.
Took you all day think of that one, did it? Nice to know your complete lack of an education is working out so well for you.
My favorite part about VDARE is the fact that they were founded by an immigrant from the UK haha
That's the "right" kind of immigrant. It's those funny-lookin' furriners with darker skin that are bad, doncha know.
/"American"
Headline from VDARE:
Memo From Middle America | Obama's Administrative Amnesty Not Applicable To White, Legal, English Girl. And While We're On The Subject, Aren't British Immigrants Preferable To Mexican Immigrants Anyway?*
Wow, you called it GS. Perfect.
*this is totally fucking real, and from the actual site. no shit.
Haha you can't make this shit up!
This reminds me of the thread a couple days ago where I made a post saying how progressives often made a certain argument that was inherently hypocritical, and in the time it took for me to write that post, Tony made the exact same argument I was talking about in a different part of the thread. Or all the times trolls, or people on other websites make serious arguments that we view as jokes ("SOMALIA! ROADZ!") here. It's scary how reality can imitate parody
Ya, it is, I saw it myself. British immigrants are preferable to Mexicans. Think of it this way. In an economy you have two types of people, those who use their brains to produce wealth, and those who exploit either other people or the environment. British belong to the first catagory, Mexicans, to the second. Would you rather live in Britain or Mexico? Would you rather live in a Mexican area or a Anglo-American area? Some people here think that fearing blacks is somehow irrational. Calidissident, would you send your children to a black school? Answer the question.
Okay, I'm pulling the sockpuppet card. This is way over the top.
No one wants to live in England.
Is 'at you jimbo?
So much for your objection to immigration being because they support socialism. We all know modern British people just love capitalism and hate socialism, right?
I'm telling you Cali, these things ain't real. It's probably warty, or someone, fucking with us. He's not even pretending to not be racist.
We don't have droves of British coming into the country illegally (or otherwise)
And your point is what Tulpa? The only reason British immigrants got brought up is because the founder of VDARE is a British immigrant
Here's a video of America preachin' the word.
Jesus gave him that cold sore.
I know I'm convinced.
IMO American is a hilarious troll. His orthography errors and generally poor command of English are a fine touch, how ironic! And I tell you this as a libertarian from Latin America (whose very existence is impossible according to his collectivistic ideas)
"And I tell you this as a libertarian from Latin America"
Impossible. Only a real 'Merican like American can embrace freedom.
And he's stealing jobs from American anti-illegal activists. Ship him back with Andrew Sullivan.
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