Medical Marijuana Is Not An "Issue of Significance" to Mitt Romney
During an interview with a local CBS News affiliate in Colorado yesterday, Mitt Romney got more than a little annoyed with a reporter after she asked about gay marriage, college tuition for children of illegal immigrants, and finally about medical marijuana. Romney wanted to talk about other things. And he told her so.
"Aren't there issues of significance you'd like to talk about," Romney asked. "The economy, the growth of jobs, the need to put people back to work, the challenges of Iran? We've got enormous issues that we face. But go ahead, you want to talk about medical marijuana?"
She did. And so he gave an answer:
"I think medical marijuana should not be legal in this country. I believe it's a gateway drug to other drug violations. The use of illegal drugs in this country is leading to terrible consequences in places like Mexico, and actually in our own country. I oppose legalization of marijuana. I oppose legalizations of other kinds of drugs."
You can watch the clip here. The medical marijuana outburst starts around the 2:20 mark.
This isn't the first time Romney has tried to avoid questions about medical pot. Here's a young man who suffers from muscular dystrophy explaining the "terrible consequences" of treating his condition with medical marijuana to Mitt Romney in 2007. Even then, Romney was unmoved:
His answer may be callous, cold, and cruel. But at least, for once, it's consistent.
Lots more from Reason on medical marijuana here.
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So he's just like Obama. What a surprise.
He's not just like Obama.
First, Romney actually knows English Grammar...
Second, Romney knows how to balance a checkbook...
and...
and...
You're a towel!
You're a beaner towel!
Um, hello? Obama is totes okay with gays now. He and ROMNIAC couldn't be more different.
You're right. It's like night and day, now. And I'm in no way saying that Obama, being partially black, is night, and ROMNIAC, being totally white, is day. STOP CALLING ME A RACIST!!!
LACIST!
you forget that Romney was for the gays before he was against them.
The one thing he won't flip flop on.
So he's just like Obama. What a surprise.
No, Romney has never bullied a black girl like Obama did:
Her name was Coretta, and before my arrival she had been the only black person in our grade. She was plump and dark and didn't seem to have many friends. From the first day, we avoided each other but watched from a distance, as if direct contact would only remind us more keenly of our isolation.
Finally, during recess one hot, cloudless day, we found ourselves occupying the same corner of the playground. I don't remember what we said to each other, but I remember that suddenly she was chasing me around the jungle gyms and swings. She was laughing brightly, and I teased her and dodged this way and that, until she finally caught me and we fell to the ground breathless. When I looked up, I saw a group of children, faceless before the glare of the sun, pointing down at us.
"Coretta has a boyfriend! Coretta has a boyfriend!"
The chants grew louder as a few more kids circled us.
"She's not my g-girlfriend," I stammered. I looked to Coretta for some assistance, but she just stood there looking down at the ground. "Coretta's got a boyfriend! Why don't you kiss her, mister boyfriend?"
"I'm not her boyfriend!" I shouted. I ran up to Coretta and gave her a slight shove; she staggered back and looked up at me, but still said nothing. "Leave me alone!" I shouted again. And suddenly Coretta was running, faster and faster, until she disappeared from sight. Appreciative laughs rose around me. Then the bell rang, and the teachers appeared to round us back into class.
"Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance."
BTW, fuck that smart punctuation filter up the ass.
jesus christ, in fourth grade there was an asian girl who joined our class (of ten) and everyone said that we were going to get married (I had "steady girlfriend" from first through third grade when she went to another school). I simply said that she wasn't my type, I didn't have to push her or anything.
good lord.
Governments require criminals to justify a police state.
Romney is saying what is popular to get votes. Most Amercans want to live in a drug war fueled police state. I hate Americans.
Cool story, bro.
Don't talk to him... ATF provocateur is obvious.
Crap. I just showed him my fleet of armed drones the other day.
You have a fleet? I'm jealous. I just have the one.
fleet doesn't sound like the right term for a plural of drones.
wait for it...
A murder of drones.
sad I couldn't be on earlier to respond sooner, but that cracked me up.
What country are you in? I think that if we don't already have troops there, we need to send some- to protect you from drugs, terrorists and you're own bad ideas.
You must live in a cave if you think there are still countries were the US has no troops stationed. Well maybe Antartica but that's technically not a country, now is it?
Except a slight majority favor legalization for recreational purposes and a strong majority support medical rights. No doubt those numbers are even higher when talking about the crucial independent voting block.
But conveniently, many of the people in favor of legalisation aren't allowed to vote! *headdesk*
They aren't allowed on jurys either- just where are they hiding?
Fuck him with a rusty railroad spike and fuck any Hit & Runpublicans who tell me that I "have" to vote for him to get Obama out.
Yup.
Ooooooh, I don't think Tulpa is going to like that sentiment... 😀
Dude, are you familiar with the phrase <blink><i>MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION OF OUR LIFETIME</blink>?!1!!eleven!!
Turn down the Hannity please
STOP THE INHANNITY!!!
Wait, I thought the 2004 and the 2008 elections were the MOST IMPORTANT ELECTIONS OF OUR LIFETIME. Was I mistaken?
No! Each elections becomes more important as the candidates become more alike.
YOU HAVE TO VOTE FOR HIM TO GET OBAMA OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
But you do!!!!
Course you also have to vote for Obama to keep Romney out of office so you're kinda screwed either way so I say just vote for Johnson or even better find something actually useful to do on election day.
We need to keep drugs illegal to solve the problems that we've caused by making drugs illegal. You spin me right round, baby, right round, like that statist logic, right round round round.
My son, who is 11 is tormenting the DARE officer at his school (and no, I am not putting him up to it)* by arguing for legalization of all drugs everytime the poor guy pokes his head into the classroom.
For the past month, my kid has been pounding the guy with the example of alcohol prohibition. To hear my son tell it, the cop is losing the battle for hearts and minds. 😀
*I however should cop to the fact that at age 5 the kid sounded like Henry Hazzlitt and even came up with his own version of a rebuttal to the broken window fallacy. At age 4, he asked my brother in an exasperated tone, "Uncle _____, can you take me to see the black market? My dad won't take me there."
Needless to say, I wholeheartedly encouraged his intellectual development in those directions.
No doubt he will soon be caught eating lunch with a Spork and suspended for violating the school deadly weapon policy.
Speaking of that, they have a zero tolerance policy, yet the cop passed a clip full of ammunition around for the kids to handle as a way of bonding with them.
If a NRA firearms instructor did that during a parents-talk-about-their-work day, the PTA would probably be screaming for his head. But a cop trying to turn kids into a version of the Junior Spies? ... crickets.
We all know that laws do not apply to those who enforce them.
He has a badge and is certified safe by Whatever County Department of Public Safety and Unicorn Pellets. He's from the government, and he's here to help, don'tcha know?
I trust your son remembered "If you see something, say something" and called 911 about this.
Have you seen the video of the DEA agent who shot himself in the foot in front of a classroom filled with school children who were in the process of being indoctrinated?
No really, he did, and him the only person in the room professional enough to use a Glock 40:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeGD7r6s-zU
Never play with guns boys and girls!
Sadly this will likely end up on his permanent record, barring him from military service, any government job, student loans, FHA housing loans, and a host of other things.
He will be the equivalent of a convicted felon.
barring him from military service, any government job, student loans, FHA housing loans
And the problem there is.....
So there may be some small glimmer of hope for future generations afterall.
I will be coming to you for much parenting advice in the near future.
Can't you tell the school you don't want your kid victimized by DARE? Not that it isn't obvious that you're doing a bang up job raising a little rabble rouser and have no need to protect the boy but what about other parents?
MY 11-YEAR-OLD SON IS OUT-DEBATING A GROWN MAN, HE LITERALLY THEORIZED THE BROKEN WINDOW FALLACY AS A TODDLER
You're an idiot, your anecdote is stupid, and you made this site worse by posting it. Go back to TroperTales.
This isn't really suprising. Heck, Romney thinks coffee is a dangerous gateway drug.
It causes hipsterosis.
But Ephedra is OK. Silly Mormons.
You must have a really hard heart to be a drug warrior who still isn't moved by the medicinal aspects of marijuana for cancer patients undergoing chemotherapy. I don't wish evil on anyone but schadenfreude should Mitt, or those who think like him, should someday have to puke their guts up because they can't get medicinal marijuana.
" I abhor your cancer inflicted suffering but I have to think of all the imaginary suffering of imaginary people that the drug war is helping."
Joe Arpaio even said something like "if a guy has cancer*, I don't really see why he shouldn't be able to smoke."
*he may have said terminal cancer. Still, even that's apparently too much for majic undies Mitt.
Yeah, or horrors, giving terminally ill patients morphine because they might become addicted. We wouldn't want that.
Obviously, cancer is God punishing people for not believing Joseph Smith's bullshit hard enough.
People like Rhomney don't suffer.. as much. They can afford to find doctors somewhere that will fill the script should they be in pain.
I'm wondering why Reason is giving so much coverage to two candidates that practically nobody here is going to vote for.
I mean, unless the Reason staff is going to break for Obama. Again.
The Republicans must be punished!
YOU LIE!
While the reason staff who voted for Obama deserve a severe drubbing, I seriously doubt you will find a single one of them who would ever make that same mistake again. And if they did, I would encourage an open season of ridicule on them.
I seriously doubt you will find a single one of them who would ever make that same mistake again.
I would have said none of them would make that mistake the first time.
I would have hoped so. Obama fooled a lot of people. Granted, intelligent people should have seen right through his bullshit, and many of us did, but people can be foolish. However, there are no excuses at this point.
I didn't vote for him but i was dumb enough to think that Obama in office would be like our first black president.
Instead he's all the bad features of GWB, Nixon and Jimmy Carter rolled into one.
E: Received my drubbing! Johnson for Prez!
See, RC? Lesson learned. Though Ron, I would have hoped for you to go the "I don't vote route", as that is the truly logical route.
I think you're confusing "logical" for "principled" here, E. Logic would dictate doing what we can to change the system, which in this case would be voting to get the Libertarian party more access and more voter recognition, as long as they keep nominating people like Johnson and don't go back to the Barrs of the world.
Incorrect. Logical means that you understand that your vote is statistically, and therefore in practice, utterly meaningless. If it is meaningless, why vote?
LOGICPWN'D
LP needs, by my rough math based on 2008, 400 votes from my county alone to keep it chugging along for the next election season, so I'm voting for them.
Besides that, I pretty much agree on the uselessness of voting. Now, owning a party and letting the suckers do the voting, that's a different story.
E: I like vacuous rituals.
They will get the Dave Weigel treatment.
Fuck that piece of goat shit.
I got drubbed pretty hard the other day for saying I was undecided about voting for Mittens (as opposed to burning my vote, as I've done before).
I tend to agree with Mittens on fiscal issues and he doesn't appear to have a hard-on for social issues (as Frothy did). At SOME point the candidate becomes "good enough" to outweigh voting for someone I know can't win out of protest.
So the question is...
Does he really plan to take no action on the social issues because he really doesn't care about them OR is he just downplaying them for election purposes and when he gets elected he turns into Santorum/Bush?
"I think medical marijuana should not be legal in this country. I believe it's a gateway drug to other drug violations..."
No, no hard-on for social issues there at all.
Given that he had to be prodded into stating his actual belief as opposed to shouting it from the rooftops a'la Santorum I would say yes, it appears that Romney would have no interest in pushing social issues either way, should he win office.
My point is,according to the article, they had to pry it out of him. When pressed, he gave the party line. It is possible he doesn't really give a shit, which would make him neutral on social issues.
OR he's a closet warrior.
If he doesn't really give a shit, then he would likely just continue the status quo. Which is enough of a reason to actively oppose him.
I don't see him as being very strong on the fiscal side either. He's a Multiplier Man.
It is great for us to have things to tell our friends about why they should not vote for such and such candidates.
Kind of a "know your enemies" thing.
I'm wondering why Reason is giving so much coverage to two candidates that practically nobody here is going to vote for.
Because, like it or not, one of these two individuals will be the next President.
Shorter version - "I want the law enforcement endorsement"
Many useful drugs, which are legal with a prescription, are totally illegal without one and are more dangerous than marijuana if not used properly. Lots of antipsychotic drugs, for example, even painkillers.
Therefore, make it a crime to prescribe antipsychotics and painkillers.
And don't forget to ban paint thinners, too.
And caffeine jacked beer.
Marijuana is completely non-toxic. As a matter of fact, it's almost the perfect drug to show how venal and duplicitous the drug warriors are, because it is so obviously benign.
The point of keeping marijuana illegal is to separate those who blindly follow authority from those who do not.
The point of keeping marijuana illegal, the 21-year-old drinking age, speed limits, and any of a thousand other idiotic laws is to separate those who blindly follow authority from those who do not.
Have you ever driven in NC, NJ, NY or pretty much any state on the east coast? Without speed limits I would be dead many times over...I can only dodge idiots so quickly... While I think we should take an Autobahn approach with speed limit (different speeds for different times, no speed limits when traffic below x cars/minute) - I think that it one statist law that can be overlooked atm...
Therefore, make it a crime to prescribe antipsychotics and painkillers.
They're working on it.
For something that he says has no significance to him, he's sure willing to throw a lot of people in jail for it.
MJ is a gateway drug -- gateway to prison!
Well, he did say it was a gateway to other drug "violations."
Great, I would like Mittens to know that voting for him is in no way shape or form an "Issue of Importance" to me.
Honestly I gotta agree with Romney.
Medical Marijuana, Gay Marriage, and College tuition for illegal immigrants **ARE** trivial issues when it comes to national politics.
Medical Marijuana is a tiny wedge issue on the much larger and more important issue of what to do about drugs and it is clear that the country is not quite ready to even consider anything resembling serious reform to our drug laws so discussing it is not exactly a priority.
The fact is, as evidenced by his speech and mannerism's that should Romney become President Drug reform, marriage equality, and immigration reform will not be significant legislative issues for him and he'll likely ignore them to the extent he is able to. Yes his views on all 3 issues are also wrong but given that he won't be making any push to "crack down" on them if he was elected they are hardly relevant and there are about a million things, really about 120 trillion (total debt + unfunded liabilities) of them) that need to be addressed before any of these would crack the top 100.
Perhaps, but they're very edifying as to a candidate's view on the proper relationship between the state and the individual. In Romney's case that proper relationship seems to be with the indivual's neck under the state's boot.
it is clear that the country is not quite ready to even consider anything resembling serious reform to our drug laws
Citation needed.
It is clear that the country is not quite ready to even consider anything resembling serious reform to our tax laws, so there's another trivial issue.
As a medical marijuana patient whose dispensary was recently raided by federal agents, fuck you, Rasilio, you apologist fuck.
The issue may be important to YOU. Just as gay marriage is important to gays who want to get married.
However compare those to things like say Obamacare, The Global War on terror, Inevitable Social Security and Medicare reform, creating a legal environment that encourages faster economic growth, dealing with exploding debts, insulating the US economy from a european economic collapse, preventing state and local governments from turning into a US version of Greece, dealing with illegal immigrants and reforming the immigration system into something that actually works, etc.
Fact is The issue is not a particularly important one in the national political scene, furthermore Romney stating his (correct) belief that it is not an important issue tells you everything you need to know about how he would govern with respect to it, basically he would ignore it in favor of higher priorities.
Here's a debate question I would love to see:
"President Obama, Mr. Romney, how long do you think someone should be jailed for possessing an ounce of marijuana? How much marijuana should be considered a felony that strips a citizen of their right to vote and own a gun?"
Here's a debate answer I would love to see: "I think that should be left up to the States."
Me, too. But that is Not An Option for OBamney. I'd love to see them squirm and come up with an answer that doesn't make them look like utter fools.
I'd like to hear "no one should be jailed for possessing any amount of marijuana. All federal criminal drug laws should be repealed. That's all I can do as president."
http://www.garyjohnson2012.com/marijuana
lol, it must be nearing election time, these pompous windbag politicians crack me up.
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Is Reason's spam filter going apeshit again?
No way man are they serioust?
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lol, you can always tell when election time nears lol.
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Needs more lol.
Reason's spam filter is messing up again.
What the hell's wrong with Reason's spam filter?
I believe it's a gateway drug to other drug violations.
hmmm, here I was thinking* that "gateway drugs" lead to "other drug USE", apparently now you can just skip right to the violations.
*no I wasn't.
Drugs are illegal. QED.
Which is why they're bad, I know, I know.
And let me reiterate that romney is the most douchebaggy looking candidate for office since obama.
Have you already forgotten Newcular Titties? Or are you just talking about general election.
*looking*, who *looks* like the biggest douchebag, not necessarily a measure of who *is* the biggest douchebag. and newt doesn't *look* quite as douchey.
I still say it's a tough call.
At this point, on Romney, I'm debating which would be better:
(1) Romney winning, so at least we don't have to put up with Obama's judicial appointments. That is the only advantage that I see for Romney over Obama.
(2) Romney losing, creating an opening for the Republicans to rethink their big gov/socon ways and maybe move our way a little bit.
(2) is never gonna happen.
I agree it's not going to happen just because Romney loses, but as they continue to lose because the younger generation isn't going to put up with it, I think they'll have to drop the socons at some point.
Yea, if ROMNIAC loses Team RED will just double down on stupid for 2016.
I'm contemplating actually voting for Obama to get the destruction over with quicker. I'm sick of pussy-footing around the eventual downfall of the country. I'd like to see this government go out like a 500 lb man letting out a wet fart after a Mexican dinner.
If you are in a hurry to be destroyed, I could suggest several faster ways.
I don't know, he's moving pretty quickly.
Well, the MSM might re-discover that what the government says should actually be verified.
That is the only advantage that I see for Romney over Obama.
The press won't fawn over and run cover for Romney. 2/3 of his "base" don't particularly like or trust the guy.Romney's actions will draw serious scrutiny from nearly everyone. He's not the incumbent.
What the hell's the matter with Reason's spam filter? Isn't it about time it stopped screwing with people?
I went to the doctor today. He balked at giving me a fucking script for 30 sudafed. We had a short argument about the efficacy drug war. But he said, "I am not afraid of the DEA, I obey the law." And he basically "meh'ed" at the thought of 50 dead Mexicans because of the drug war.
...exuse me. that is 50,000 dead Mexicans. FUCK. I am so pissed.
Well at least they won't sneak into our country as unregistered guests to do stoop labor. Americans need the opportunity to clean cheap motel rooms and empty portable toilets. It builds character you know.
You need a new, better doctor.
You need a script for sudafed? What state is that? In Ohio, you can get OTC but have to show an ID and supposedly that goes into some kind of tracking db that makes sure your not stockpiling.
Dunno where Troy is, but you do in Orygone.
I was in line at Walmart picking up some prescriptions and I ended up behind four guys all picking up Sudafed. It was kind of obvious that they all knew each other.
My main emotion was , fuck you State of Florida for passing this bullshit law* while I had a second one where I was smirking wondering what four trailer trash guys were going to be doing with it.
*you have to pick up Sudafed at the prescription counter and present photo ID.
"could I at least skip ahead of 2 of you? Then your meth operation doesn't take as big a chunk outta my day, while simultaneously not being so obvious, it's win/win."
"you have to pick up Sudafed at the prescription counter and present photo ID."
Federal law, not the State of Florida. Well unless they passed a matching law. Same deal up here in Maryland and definitely Federal here.
I stand corrected, thank you.
Thanks to my elderly prostate I can no longer take Sudafed so I don't py attention any more. 🙂
That's awesome. So now for a $5 box of cold medicine, you probably have to pay $20 out of pocket and have your insurance pay another $100 (or whatever it ends up being) to your doctor. Good thing we are working so hard at reducing health care costs.
you gotta waste money to save money.
You can't put a price on saving teh CHILDRUN!!!
Doesn't everyone consult a politician when they're sick? C'mon, at least for a second opinion?
Marijuana: A Gateway Drug To Happiness
I see another way. Obama winning, country go over the financial cliff and crash before 2016, and then...CIVIL/REVOLUTIONARY WAR and remake the country on Libertarian strengths and virtues. Or at least part of it.
Lol
yeah right, do you honestly think for one second that the 15% of the country which is generally libertarian is gonna come out in power after that civil war?
Far more likely the 20% who generally fall into the Christian Taliban sphere ends up in control.
Far more likely that the Christian Taliban ends up in control if Romney wins.
A civil war/violent war would not lead the country in a libertarian direction.
To the contrary, it would result in a more totalitarian state dominating the country that will get public support because it brings order to the nation.
Once again, I paraphrase The Wine Commonsewer:
It doesn't matter who wins the revolution, People like us will be on the wrong side of the barricades.
I don't see war in the nations internal future. Cold War era East German (as some one stated, only socialism could have made the Germans poor) style mass poverty due to bizarre rationing schemes is certainly possible. The American people put up with an incredible level of bureaucratic abuse, likely much more than what the Eastern Europeans would without there ever being a flare up of internal revolt.
Another drug-warrior-standing-his-ground candidate, eh? Fantastic. Just what our great republic needs: another prohibitionist asshole.
I say we all pick a state to rendezvous in when the shit hits the fan. That way we can create libertopia and leave the rest of the country to the fucking zombie TEAM hordes.
I don't see the value in forming another state. States are terrible things even at their best.
You have to be more pragmatic than that.
Identify the supply chains that you consider essential for your personal prosperity and happiness. Identify alternatives. Vigilantly keep tabs on them for signs of breaking down. Separate your wealth from democracy. Civilized people don't invest in it.
Come to Texas. We have a coast, access to oil and gas, and we can still get some good "medicine" from our neighbors to the South
I'm already in Texas. I just didn't want to be presumptuous that that was the place we should invite everyone to move to.
That was supposed to be New Hampshire? Don't get convicted of a crime and sent to prison there. Think how those poor prisoners must feel to have to manufacture those "Live Free or Die" license plates all day every day.
You have a toothache? Green jello.
Back issues? Green jello.
Terminal cancer? Lots and lots of green jello.
Sounds like a euphemism. Better ban this so-called "green jello" just to be safe.
It's a gateway drug to orange Jell-O with banana slices in it.
When confronted by advocates of cannabis law reform the prohibitionists squeal like stuck pigs and ejaculate hysterical rhetoric about how re-legalization would lead to the end of western civilization.
Except when they're claiming that the entire subject is inconsequential.
This is evidence that Romney will be better on this issue than Obama once he's president -- because he can afford to be, which Obama can't. If he's established himself as believably anti-pot, then he can slack off on enforcement.