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Policy

Some Views on SOPA & PIPA

Nick Gillespie | 1.18.2012 9:48 AM

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Today marks a series of online protests against the Stop Online Privacy Act (SOPA) and Protect Intellectual Property Act (PIPA), which are House and Senate versions of bills designed to halt copyright infringement on the Internet.

Whether you agree with Salon's Glenn Greenwald that this legislation poses "the greatest dangers to Internet freedom of any bill[s] in the last decade," you should agree that SOPA and PIPA are very big deals with the ability to radically alter a vast realm of freedom that we've come to take for granted. As Greenwald summarizes the problems with the bills:

These bills…vest the power in large corporations and the government to seize and shutdown websites with little or no due process in the name of stopping piracy.

God, we've been here before, haven't we? Back in the 1980s, with Jack Valenti leading the charge against VCRs (the equivalent of the Boston Strangler to the movie biz, claimed the head of the Motion Picture Association of America!), then the Clinton administration's various futzing with the Internet (all for good reasons, to keep the kids from seeing the nudity and excretory functions on the Interwebs) and the whole Napster business! And more recent yapping about "Net Neutrality" and the FCC taking a "light touch" approach to on-ramps to the Information Superhighway. Is it too late to copyright the phrase "the more things change…"? Those goddamn Chinese have probably already printed up t-shirts of it!

Greenwald's piece today at Salon does a great job of fingering former Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Ct.) as a motive force in the pushing of this legislation. As the door slammed shut on his over-long Senate career, Dodd pledged that he would never become a lobbyist in his retirement, a gesture that ranks up there with his attempt to get Ted Kennedy to pimp Carrie Fisher for him. As Greenwald shows, Dodd started lobbying even harder for SOPA than for Princess Leia, all at the behest of a movie industry that has been on the wrong side of just about every major leap forward in technological empowerment of the little people:

In his SOPA advocacy, Dodd has resorted to holding up Chinese censorship as the desired model, mouthing the slogans of despots, and even outright lying. Like virtually all extremist, oppressive bills backed by large industry, SOPA and PIPA have full bipartisan support; among its co-sponsors are Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy and GOP Rep. Lamar Smith, with many Senators fromboth parties in support and Harry Reid pushing it forward (to its credit, the White House expressed opposition to several of the worst provisions, though has not yet issued a veto threat).

Read Greenwald's whole piece here. Hat tip: Alan Vanneman!

For a longer explanation of the stupidity embedded in SOPA/PIPPA, read this by Reason's Peter Suderman. The legislation has "evolved" since then (i.e. gotten slightly less rotten) but is still no good.

While I hope that SOPA and PIPA (or whatever godforsaken acronym comes out of a conference bill) doesn't become law, I must say that it's heartening to see the left and the right pull together against such a threat. Few issues unite folks such as Salon's Greenwald and RedState's Erick Erickson, who writes:

Both pieces of legislation are overly broad and give too much power to the Attorney General to shut down websites that may be innocent of piracy, but are accused of being engaged in online piracy.

Both pieces of legislation are written by old men who need young staffers just to tweet and run their Facebook accounts. The sponsors probably have no idea how far reaching and damaging their legislation is….

Good friends of RedState like Marsha Blackburn in the House with SOPA and Marco Rubio in the Senate with PROTECT IP are on the wrong side of this issue. I personally, as much as I like them and so many of the other Republican sponsors, will make stopping both pieces of legislation a hill to die on and work to defeat them at their next election if this legislation passes.

Whole piece here (emphasis in original). RedState, in solidarity with a number of other sites including Wikipedia and Reddit, has gone dark today in protest.

Hat tip to RedState piece: Amanda Carpenter.

A few years back (in late 2008), Reason hosted a conference in Hollywood. One of the panels talked about freedom of expression and included an early internet entrepreneur destroyed by the record labels, a lawyer for the porn industry, and a historian of the '60s counterculture (yes, I know, it sounds like a Reason version of a joke about a priest, a rabbi, and an atheist entering a juice bar…). Take a look, as the conversation ranges into many issues still at play. Alas.

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  1. Chris Dodd   14 years ago

    However, Ted and I did.

    1. Tony   14 years ago

      .....does a great job of fingering former Sen. Chris Dodd (D-Ct.)

      I've always hoped to be a mere knuckle away from real political power!

      1. Cunctator   14 years ago

        Tony

        Hey fuckwad, STFU.

  2. Live Free or Diet   14 years ago

    Government likes to fix what ain't broke. That way they can claim they saw it first. Never mind they're the ones who broke it.

    1. killazontherun   14 years ago

      How is Congress suppose to lose the ineffectiveness wrap if they can't pass landmark legislation that terrorizes the masses?

      1. ?   14 years ago

        That is so profound.

  3. Tim   14 years ago

    Our government is being run like an Italian cruise liner...

    1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

      Were that the skipper would leave the sinking ship!

      1. Tim   14 years ago

        Everybody go back to your cabins, the tilting deck and water are the result of a minor electrical problem.

        1. Barack Obama   14 years ago

          I inherited this sinking ship from the last administration.

          1. Barry   14 years ago

            Well its still sinking..but damn I look good in mom jeans!

          2. Mensan   14 years ago

            Running the bilge pumps in reverse isn't exactly helping the situation.

    2. *   14 years ago

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv1pvRDFFqs

    3. fresno dan   14 years ago

      O, if only we could be run that bravely and competently!

    4. Thom   14 years ago

      Even the ones that don't run aground...nothing really lives up to expectations and everything has to be done in five languages.

  4. SIV   14 years ago

    RedState, in solidarity with a number of other sites including Wikipedia and Reddit, has gone dark today in protest

    Erick ought to do this every day.

    1. CE   14 years ago

      I've been personally blacking out RedState ever since their founder decided in 2007 that posts in favor of one of the top four Republican contenders weren't welcome.

      Apparently that candidates' differences with RedState orthodoxy on foreign policy were to be shunned, while other candidates' differences on abortion, illegal immigration, and health care were to be overlooked.

      I never missed it.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

    While I hope that SOPA and PIPA (or whatever godforsaken acronym comes out of a conference bill)...

    SOFIACOPPOLA

    1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

      Or SOPACABANA.

      1. Dagny T.   14 years ago

        SOPACABRA.

        1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

          Don't know how good everyone's Spanish is, but "sopa is Spanish for "soup." So SOPADEPOLLOCONFIDEOS (Sopa de Pollo con Fideos is chicken noodle soup) is an option.

          1. Kromulent Kristen   14 years ago

            NOSOPA4U!

          2. Dagny T.   14 years ago

            Dey tuk ur akronymz!

            1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

              Yes, I have to assume that this SOPA bill somehow advances the advent of the North American Union and furthers the machinations of the Pentavirate.

              1. Loki   14 years ago

                Especially the machinations of that bastard Colonel Sanders.

                With his wee beady eyes, and that smug look on his face...

        2. Abdul   14 years ago

          SOAPPIPPA

          1. Moogle   14 years ago

            SOPAOPERA?

            Has the fat lady sung yet?

      2. JW   14 years ago

        SOPADOPA

      3. JW   14 years ago

        TAPTHATASSONPIPPA

        1. Moogle   14 years ago

          (rearranges letters)

          I AM VOLDEMORT

    2. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

      Riding on the coattails of its parents.

    3. sarcasmic   14 years ago

      SOPAPILLA?

      1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

        +1

      2. steep   14 years ago

        mmmmm!!!

        sopapilla

    4. Butts Wagner   14 years ago

      SOPEKING

      1. wylie   14 years ago

        SOFAKINGWETODDED

    5. Priestess   14 years ago

      CHUPACABRA

    6. MattJ   14 years ago

      Federal Uniform Privacy Act

    7. Clich? Bandit   14 years ago

      Hey, Pipa is HOT! And she is the sister in law of some rich UK tax parasite.

  6. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

    Copyright protection is already too strong. We need to ratchet it down a bit from 11, not find a way to increase it to 13.

    1. Or   14 years ago

      Copyright 2012, Reason Magazine

    2. PS   14 years ago

      If people are allowed to post the lyrics to Britney Spears songs the terrorists win.

      1. wylie   14 years ago

        whoa, hold up

        her songs have lyrics?

        1. Anonymous Coward   14 years ago

          Yes. Spoken backwards, the lyrics to any given Britney Spears song summons a demon of the Goetia.

          True story.

        2. Loki   14 years ago

          Yes, but that requires watching her videos with the sound on, which is not recommended for anyone.

          1. FIFY   14 years ago

            Yes, but that requires watching her videos with the sound on, which is not recommended for anyone.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

    As the door slammed shut on his over-long Senate career, Dodd pledged that he would never become a lobbyist in his retirement...

    Of course, he never retired. He just changed offices.

  8. Discount Double Choke   14 years ago

    I've heard rumors that Chris Dodd likes to kill livestock and have sex with the dead bodies while they are still warm. Has anyone else heard something similar?

    1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

      Don't confuse Dodd with White Indian.

      1. SOPA   14 years ago

        That's funny!
        Will you be here all day?

    2. Troy   14 years ago

      Do you mean, like, Chris Dodd is s sheep fucker?

      1. PIPA   14 years ago

        Hilarious!

    3. killazontherun   14 years ago

      No need to make up stuff about Dodd when Pulitzer Prize winning journalist like the late, great Michael Kelly chronicle his tag team rape misadventures with his pal Ted. He is horrible as is without embellishments.

  9. Lint   14 years ago

    [i]Greenwald's piece today at Salon does a great job of fingering former Sen. Chris Dodd[/i]

    I stopped reading right here. (Sorry if the italics aren't right)

    1. Lint   14 years ago

      Of course I can't figure out italics.

      1. sarcasmic   14 years ago

        Here: http://bit.ly/wmYbN4

      2. R C Dean   14 years ago

        You're almost there. Use the pointy brackets: < > instead of the square ones.

  10. Please tell congress   14 years ago

    that you oppose this legislation:

    https://www.google.com/landing/takeaction/

    1. Geoff Nathan   14 years ago

      I actually did this--wrote to all three congresscritters. And posted a bunch of stuff on FB. Grrrrr

    2. Voros McCracken   14 years ago

      My congressman:

      http://projects.propublica.org/sopa/Q000024

      Sometimes there are no words...

  11. MarylandMike   14 years ago

    Never thought I'd ever be saying this but, "Way to go RedState!"

  12. WC JOnes   14 years ago

    I never thought about it like that before. Wow.

    http://www.Total-Security.tk

    1. Ice Nine   14 years ago

      Actually, you never thought.

      1. WC JOnes   14 years ago

        Je pense donc je suis, mon ami.

        1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

          Mon Dieu!

          1. Fist of Etiquette   14 years ago

            Skynet's French? Sweet. The battle for humanity shouldn't take long at all.

            1. anon   14 years ago

              Damnit, there go my dreams of a post-apocalyptic wasteland. Fucking hell.

              1. killazontherun   14 years ago

                Nothing will change except your drawing rooms will seem more dusky and set with a peculiar mood of ennuie.

            2. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

              It never occurred to me before that we could win the war against emergent AI. Great news, everyone!

            3. sarcasmic   14 years ago

              Remember when the French made it to the World Cup a few years ago?

              They almost had an opportunity to invent a word for "victory"!

            4. Mensan   14 years ago

              "Skynet's French?"

              Il n'est francais. C'est Quebecois.

          2. Dagny T.   14 years ago

            Anonbot acquiring other languages means the singularity is inching ever closer.

          3. wylie   14 years ago

            Cordon Bleu!

            1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

              Latrine!

              1. Scruffy Nerfherder   14 years ago

                This is not Mel Torme!

                1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

                  Die Sauerkraut ist in mein Lederhosen.<?I>

                  1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

                    Oops.

                  2. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

                    Kraut bastard. How many Holocaust deniers have you aided and abetted THIS week?

                  3. alittlesense   14 years ago

                    liederhosen?

              2. fish   14 years ago

                Merde?

            2. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

              ON-KOO LAY-VOO, SHALOT!

              1. Scruffy Nerfherder   14 years ago

                If they find out you've seen this blog, your life will be worth less than a truckload of dead rats in a tampon factory.

                1. Scruffy Nerfherder   14 years ago

                  It's time to bring out the Leroy Niemann paintings.

                  1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

                    But he was one of the lucky ones. He managed to escape in a balloon during the Jimmy Carter presidency.

                    1. Scruffy Nerfherder   14 years ago

                      Klaus is a moron who knows only what he reads in the New York Post.

              2. Clich? Bandit   14 years ago

                wow Res, I don't know that many people whole could actully pick out a word which the French are truely ashamed...awesome. (thought I was the only one. And, last time i said that to a friend in line while in Paris I stunned at the response.)

    2. Kromulent Kristen   14 years ago

      Hobobber is the only one with a brain.

  13. Enjoy Every Sandwich   14 years ago

    Both pieces of legislation are written by old men who need young staffers just to tweet and run their Facebook accounts. The sponsors probably have no idea how far reaching and damaging their legislation is....

    Well said. This is a good example of one of the reasons why the activities of Congress should be restricted to the powers granted to it in Article 1 Section 8. There's no possible way that such a small group of people could be experts on everything, even if they weren't politicians (who aren't expert at anything except theft).

    1. Moogle   14 years ago

      Be nice if the young staffers spoke up, but I've met those people while working on a campaign years ago. Mother of God, the word "sycophant" does not even begin to scratch the surface. Every time one of them was around, I had to stop myself from reaching for the nearest can of bug spray, or looking for their off button.

    2. Joe M   14 years ago

      Dude, the average congressperson is so far out of touch with modern technology, it's shameful. And they let these media company lobbyists tell them what to do, because they neither understand nor care about the repercussions.

  14. Valerie Jarrett   14 years ago

    There's no possible way that such a small group of people could be experts on everything...

    My man...err..... I mean the president is!

    1. anon   14 years ago

      Remarkably similar to the late Kim Jong Il

      1. Valerie Jarrett   14 years ago

        Kim Jong Il worked so tirelessly for the betterment of his people it literally killed him, and President Obama is so much like the Dearly Departed Leader I often worry for his health.

        1. Valerie Jarrett   14 years ago

          ...and shot 5 holes in one yesterday while golfing! It really is his only relaxation.

  15. PS   14 years ago

    Apparently the DNS provision has now been removed but the idea was to block any website in the world using ICANN.

    This made the head Dick of Twitters twit: "Closing a global business in reaction to single-issue national politics is foolish." foolish or willfully deceptive.

    1. Anonymous Coward   14 years ago

      Closing a global business in reaction to single-issue national politics is foolish.

      The above sentence makes Baby Jesus want to puke.

  16. Tim   14 years ago

    A federally regulated internet is an internet that makes campaign donations to federal officers.

  17. sloopyinca   14 years ago

    Those goddamn Chinese

    goddamn Chinese, Nick? Really? Those yellow heathens don't believe in God.

    Oh, and RAAAAACIST!!!

    1. FIFY   14 years ago

      Oh, and RLAAAAACIST!!!

  18. Heroic Mulatto   14 years ago

    Yes, but what does Rainbow Dash have to say concerning IP protection?

  19. Joe M   14 years ago

    Today marks a series of online protests against the Stop Online Privacy Act (SOPA)...

    Oh man, that is GOLD. And no one else has noticed it yet? Awesome.

    1. David T   14 years ago

      yes, 2 friends noticed when i posted this on Facebook!

      1. calm mentor   14 years ago

        Are you related to Dagny T?

  20. John is an asshole   14 years ago

    that is all.

  21. John   14 years ago

    I guess Rubio is really stupid or has no interest in a national political career. Backing this is about the most tone deaf thing he could do. Why don't he just go all in and come out in support of Obamacare?

    What a moron. Doesn't he realize that Hollywood does more damage to the political causes he cares about than pretty much anything? No Republican worth his weight in piss should walk across the street to help those fuckers let alone waste political capital backing a horrible bill like this. At this point, I don't see how Rubio is in any way a serious person.

    1. Old Mexican   14 years ago

      Re: John,

      I guess Rubio is really stupid or has no interest in a national political career.

      I would go with stoopid, because I believe he does have an interest in having a career.

      Backing this is about the most tone deaf thing he could do.

      That and wanting to fast-track the acceptance of Georgia into NATO, advancing the US one step further into glboal war. You can thank the gods and Kentukians for Rand Paul who was there to stop him in the nick of time.

      1. John   14 years ago

        The Georgia thing was first rate stupid. The Russians are paranoid as hell and losing population. The whole goal of their policy is to recapture the Russian populations they lost when the old USSR broke up. By trying to stop them, we just make them more paranoid. And we are not going to war with Russia over Georgia anymore than Russia would go to war with us over Cuba. That is just reality. It sucks but it is true. If the Russians decide to squash Georgia there is nothing we could do about it anymore than they could stop us from squashing Castro. Nothing dumber than making a promise you can't keep or worse still one that doing so will cause a nuclear war.

    2. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

      Marco Rubio has withdrawn his support for the bill!

    3. Nephilium   14 years ago

      John, Rubio reversed his support, and withdrew his co-sponsoring of the bill. So it appears that the blackout is beginning to work.

      1. Clich? Bandit   14 years ago

        I fear that they will drop the issue for now then add it to a defense spending bill quietly later.

    4. DesigNate   14 years ago

      Definitely a moron.

  22. R C Dean   14 years ago

    Somebody help me out here:

    If I have a blog, and I link to a website that has Bad SOPA Mojo, will this new bill have any consequences for my site? It was my understanding that the old DNS blocking language would have shut down my site, but that has been taken out.

    1. PS   14 years ago

      It's my understanding that no one knows because the language is still quite broad. But I'm far from savvy on this.

      1. John   14 years ago

        So it boils down to "trust us"?

        1. PS   14 years ago

          Give us the right to assassinate US citizens and we promise not to abuse it. With sugar on top.

          1. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

            I hope Lindsey Graham and his cohort eat shit and die in a coal fire

        2. You   14 years ago

          are an asshole, John. See above.

  23. T   14 years ago

    WTF does Vanneman have on the Reason staff? Pictures involving a goat? Living relatives in a dungeon? What?

    1. PS   14 years ago

      I think it's only Gillespie who has a thing for Vanman. He's a flawed hero.

      1. Solanum   14 years ago

        Yeah, it's only Nick who seems to like the tit. Welch and some of the other staff have bitch-slapped Vanneman in the comments before.

  24. Link   14 years ago

    SOPA - bad. Sopapilla - good.

  25. Csonka   14 years ago

    RedState hasn't gone dark: http://www.redstate.com/erick/.....rotect-ip/

  26. D Hayes   14 years ago

    Doesn't the congressmen who introduced SOPA violate what the law would be on his own website?

    http://lamarsmith.house.gov/Mu.....XY8gcRTKv8

    Its a link from his web site to his youtube account with a video he doesn't own!

    1. Nephilium   14 years ago

      Actually, Lamar Smith is a copyright infringer.

    2. Loki   14 years ago

      I doubt if he actually has anything to do with his own youtube account. He probably doesn't even know he has one.

      1. Surly Chef   14 years ago

        Even better.

  27. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/.....or-defeat/

    Congressional supporters of SOPA and PIPA -- fuck their shit up TODAY!

    1. Bee Tagger   14 years ago

      RedState commenters wishing Ron Paul supported the bill so they could target him during reelection, devolves into general thankfulness that he's retiring:

      http://www.redstate.com/erick/.....ent-161779

  28. John   14 years ago

    http://www.businessinsider.com.....ine-2012-1

    Obama is going to kill Keystone. I guess he is going to fuck the unions and middle income workers for the help of the rich white greens.

    1. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

      I hope there comes a day in a possible Paul presidency when he rounds up all the usurpers and petty tyrants and sends them to Guantanamo. Obama can be their bitch in the general population.

      1. John   14 years ago

        What a piece of shit. Lets totally fuck the Canadians, our longest and closest ally and biggest trading partner. And as a bonus give places like Saudi Arabia and Iran more leverage in the international oil market.

        This really is the worst decision any President has ever made. It is like he actually wants to destroy the country.

    2. Scruffy Nerfherder   14 years ago

      Looks like he's just pushing it to after the election. Typical spineless politician.

      1. R C Dean   14 years ago

        Permits delayed are permits denied, Scruffy.

        The real question is whether the Canadians are going to wait around for another year, or whether they are just going to build a pipeline to their Pacific Coast so they can sell it to the Asians.

        Probably the smart long-term play, anyway.

    3. PS   14 years ago

      Isn't it because only rednecks drink Keystone?

    4. Mo   14 years ago

      Keystone XL is an eminent domain nightmare. As of 17 October 2011, TransCanada had "34 eminent domain actions against landowners in Texas" and "22 in South Dakota."

  29. Res Publica Americana   14 years ago

    http://www.redstate.com/erick/.....the-right/

    This is why Marco Rubio is a Hero on the Right

    This morning I noted that we should primary Senators and Representatives on the left and right who refuse to back away from SOPA and Protect IP.

    Included in the list, unfortunately, was Senator Marco Rubio. I would hate, hate, haaattttteeeee to primary such a great guy. We spent a lot of time, energy, effort, and money getting him elected. But SOPA/Protect IP is that bad.

    Now, I've made clear that we wouldn't do this unless the left was on board too and I've only really heard crickets from them. But it was a threat so many of us felt needed to be made to emphasize just how bad this legislation is.

    Today, about 40 minutes ago, Senator Marco Rubio of Florida showed again why he is a real leader and listener within the conservative movement. He is dropping his co-sponsorship of Protect IP.

    I hope other Republicans in the Senate follow his leadership on this issue. and please call Senator Rubio's office and thank him for his leadership. His number is (202) 224-3041. We often fight. We should also often say thanks.

    -------

    Nice

    1. John   14 years ago

      They will do the right thing when properly threatened.

  30. highnumber   14 years ago

    Nothing against Alan Vanneman, but how can you need to be tipped to a Glenn Greenwald column? That's like giving someone a hat tip for directing you to french fries. You ought to know about them already.

    1. John   14 years ago

      It is those pictures he has of the jacket with a goat. It is the only plausible explanation for the love that guy gets.

      1. Paul   14 years ago

        Vanneman uses proper grammar, so he has an 'in' with Cavanaugh.

      2. Paul   14 years ago

        Vanneman uses proper grammar, so he has an 'in' with Cavanaugh.

    2. cynical   14 years ago

      Because libertarians would rather be kicked in the nuts than look at Salon? Greenwald's columns aren't as bad, but why risk the pain?

  31. JT   14 years ago

    excretory functions on the Interweb?

    What does this refer to? Enlighten me.

    1. JT   14 years ago

      oh wait...

  32. hazeeran   14 years ago

    For what it's worth I, for the first time, called my Rep's office. He hasn't made up his mind.

  33. CE   14 years ago

    The Wall Street Journal took a different tack, coming out strongly for SOPA and private property protections:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/.....TopStories

    1. capitol l   14 years ago

      It's behind a paywall, could you copy and paste it here?

      1. celtigirl   14 years ago

        Go to Google Canada edition and type in the name of the article plus Wall Street Journal and you'll get the full article.

      2. cynical   14 years ago

        I see what you did there.

  34. Spoonman.   14 years ago

    My new rep (the oddly named Chaka Fattah, D-PA) is against it, and he voted against NDAA as well. Guess he's a "good" Democrat.

  35. Politician   14 years ago

    it is appalling that there should exist an area of life where we public servants fail to weild any significant power to either tax, regulate, or punish people who run afoul of our major campaign contributors. God knows what rampant chaos and anarchy would ensue without a properly-staffed Department of Internet Affairs. Who would protect the consumers? Who would protect the children? Who would ensure that Donkey Porn meets all the required standards, that practitioners are licensed/certified and have received their required annual antibiotic shots?

    Do you not see?....That which is not regulated is The Enemy!

  36. Joe Zilch   14 years ago

    Why is nobody really talking about the copyright issue in regards to SOPA/PIPA? The MPAA and RIAA trade in things that traditionally wouldn't be covered under system that didn't suffer from regulatory capture.

    I say add an amendment to SOPA/PIPA putting Copyright back at 14 years. I still wouldn't vote for it, but it'd pour a little cold water on the issue.

    1. cynical   14 years ago

      If they keep pushing, we might see pushback. When you act as though you have no regard for the rights of others, don't be surprised when people start to lose their regard for yours.

    2. yonemoto   14 years ago

      I want the copyright industry to keep pulling shit like this to the point where we decide to scrap IP all together.

      1. Pain   14 years ago

        Amen brother.

  37. Paul   14 years ago

    Dodd pledged that he would never become a lobbyist in his retirement, a gesture that ranks up there with his attempt to get Ted Kennedy to pimp Carrie Fisher for him.

    Link:

    "Suddenly, Senator Kennedy, seated directly across from me, looked at me with his alert, aristocratic eyes and asked me a most surprising question. 'So,' he said, clearly amused, 'do you think you'll be having sex with Chris at the end of your date?' ... To my left, Chris Dodd looked at me with an unusual grin hanging on his very flushed face."

    Her reply: "'Funnily enough, I won't be having sex with Chris tonight,' I said, my face composed and calm. 'No, that probably won't happen.' People blinked. 'Thanks for asking, though.'"

    His retort: "'Would you have sex with Chris in a hot tub?' Senator Kennedy asked me, perhaps as a way to say good night? 'I'm no good in water,' I told him." (A representative for Dodd did not immediately respond to ABCNews.com's request for comment.)

    If Fisher's account is true (and I'm much more likely to believe words out of Princess Leia's mouth, than I am a politician's) then these creeps are creepier than I ever imagined, and I go pretty creepy in my imaginings.

    1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

      Whatever you think, it's worse.

      1. Paul   14 years ago

        On the creepy scale, I like to quote Han Solo:

        "I can imagine quite a bit"

        1. Pro Libertate   14 years ago

          If you can imagine Kennedy, you've gone where I cannot follow.

  38. Paul   14 years ago

    Like virtually all extremist, oppressive bills backed by large industry, SOPA and PIPA have full bipartisan support; among its co-sponsors are Democratic Sen. Patrick Leahy and GOP Rep. Lamar Smith, with many Senators fromboth parties in support and Harry Reid pushing it forward (to its credit, the White House expressed opposition to several of the worst provisions, though has not yet issued a veto threat).

    Because regulating the internet is just too delicious. They should stick to Net Neutrality legislation, IE 'master switch legislation'-- it can be handled by a regulatory agency, so the politicians can keep their hands clean of the deleterious effects-- and it has the support of a large group of useful idiots.

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