Clinton Condemns Her Own Government's Internet Policy
At a conference on Internet freedom in the Netherlands yesterday, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton condemned government efforts to restrict content or block access to objectionable websites:
As people increasingly turn to the internet to conduct important aspects of their lives, we have to make sure that human rights are as respected online as offline….
This is an urgent task. It is most urgent, of course, for those around the world whose words are now censored, who are imprisoned because of what they or others have written online, who are blocked from accessing entire categories of internet content, or who are being tracked by governments seeking to keep them from connecting with one another….
When ideas are blocked, information deleted, conversations stifled, and people constrained in their choices, the internet is diminished for all of us. What we do today to preserve fundamental freedoms online will have a profound effect on the next generation of users….
There isn't an economic internet, a social internet, and a political internet. There is just the internet, and we're here to protect what makes it great….
Governments must resist the urge to clamp down…
The United States wants the internet to remain a space where economic, political, and social exchanges flourish. To do that, we need to protect people who exercise their rights online…
You'd never guess from these remarks that Clinton represents a government so intent on controlling what citizens do with their own computers in the privacy of their homes that it commandeers forbidden websites, arrests the people who run them (along with the people who assist the people who run them), and even threatens to prosecute anyone who helps promote those websites by carrying ads for them. The U.S. government's crusade against online gambling seeks to suppress an "an entire categor[y] of internet content," lest Americans use their networked computers to play poker or bet on sports, activities that are perfectly legal in many other countries (including the ones where gambling websites are based). If that is not an example of "people constrained in their choices" by arbitrary Internet edicts, what is? As I argued in Reason a few years ago, this moralistic crackdown blatantly violates the U.S. government's avowed commitment to free trade and an open Internet:
That policy, [New York University law professor Joseph] Weiler warned, "is detrimental to the reputation of the United States as a champion of the rule of law" and "is an invitation to other countries…to withdraw commitments rather than honor them." Should China one day decide it no longer wants to respect U.S. copyrights, or should the E.U. decide to exclude U.S. agricultural products, the United States could not reasonably object to such unilateral revision of trade agreements, given the precedent it is setting in the area of gambling.
The international implications of the online gambling crackdown extend beyond trade. According to the U.S. Justice Department, anyone who operates a gambling website that's accessible to Americans, even if it's based in a jurisdiction where the business is legal and licensed, is criminally liable in the United States. If he should happen to visit or pass through the U.S., he is subject to arrest, prosecution, and imprisonment.
How would Washington react if an American visiting Tehran or Beijing received similar treatment because he had posted material on a U.S.-based website that authorities in Iran or China deemed indecent or subversive? How would it view a request for the extradition of such a "criminal"? "This is a very dangerous precedent," says [gambling law specialist] Behnam Dayanim, "because it sets the stage for that kind of activity, and to the extent we object we would be subject to charges of hypocrisy."
Opponents of online gambling, of course, think they have good reasons for restricting this particular category of Internet content. But so does every censor. "While efforts by countries like China to curb the Internet have been well documented," The New York Times reports, "such steps by democratic countries have deepened alarm among free-speech advocates, even if the intent is to regulate harmful or illegal content." Whether the government is democratically elected or not, the intent is always to "regulate harmful or illegal content." The legal status of speech is whatever the government makes it, and if censors did not think the speech was harmful, why would they be trying to suppress it? The issue is not whether the content is illegal but whether it should be—or, to put it another way, which harms are legitimate grounds for government action. Before Clinton lectures the world about Internet freedom, she should have a coherent answer to that question.
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Mummification has set in.
I was wondering what the hell happened to her.
"detrimental to the reputation of the United States as a champion of the rule of law"
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
If the good professor wants to be of some help, he needs to leave the brainwashing at the door.
Everything that is wrong with the Democratic Party in one person.
It's just crazy that people think she should be president. . .or even SoS. Her foot has entered her mouth a few times too many, aside from all of the obvious questions about what, precisely, her qualifications are in the first place.
Are you kidding? She married into it.
There is just the internet, and we're here to protect what makes it great....
Teh Pr0n!
Is that Hillary Clinton or the Crypt Keeper? On the plus side (ha!), she's getting chubby enough that Bill might want to hit that again.
Unrelated news: NASA is allowing SpaceX to go straight to the Dragon-ISS docking mission, to launch in February.
This is an unmanned cargo mission, but it's a fairly major step for SpaceX and a vote of confidence from its biggest customer (for the moment).
"NASA is allowing"
NASA shouldn't have to "allow" jack shit.
Yes, in the sense that you mean, I agree, but NASA is the customer here. If SpaceX were offering up an established cargo vehicle, I doubt this would be an issue, even with NASA.
It will be a great day indeed when SpaceX has more private customers than public. Like Bigelow, for instance. That may start happening once they have proved Dragon as a manned vehicle.
Technically, NASA does have jurisdiction over ISS, so they should have to allow it.
NASA shouldn't have jurisdiction, either.
Don't be surprised if they end up selling the ISS to a private company.
this all or nothing approach is pablum for weak-minded ideologues. >u wanna throw money away on gambling, fine. just be over 18 & ur losses ensure americans have teh [JOBZ].
Make the Newcular Titties pledge!
God yes. Gambling always seemed the the stupidest of the 'vices' to make illegal.
It's like this wierd anachronism from the prohibition era. Alcohol is legal, but gambling is banned. Except when it's run by the state.
Drugs, prostitution, and ... people playing card games for money. Yeah, lets go after those dastardly card game players.
It's like some branch of the federal government has a cult of fundamentalist puritains holed up in it and has been granted special permission to enforce their version of sharia law, just in this pone little corner of US law. Relics, survivors from the 1830s, our own little department for the promotion of virtue and the supression of vice.
Usury = sin.
Gambling = sin.
Drinking = sin.
Sex = sin.
Some sins deserve laws--certain lies (e.g., perjury, fraud), murders, etc. But not all, and we have any number of laws on the books that deal with things we'd rather people didn't do.
I'm pretty straight-laced, personally speaking, but I don't think we need laws to make people behave the way I want them to. Just keep them from messing with my stuff and hurting my family, and we're halfway there.
Perjury? Is not the sin the compulsory process forcing one to testify against his will?
But, sure, if it applies to state actors and voluntary use of the courts.
Well, the lies in court are bad enough with perjury on the books. Without it, I think the courts would be a mess. Even in a purely voluntary system--say, arbitration--there should be consequences for being caught in a lie.
Which just sort of shows how what we consider a sin still doesn't make any sense.
None of the things on that list are what I would consider "morraly wrong".
Except MAYBE usury, and then I'd only consider it usury if you're charging 20%-30% interest rates and changing the terms after the fact, in which case, it's really fraud.
Er, morally.
Of course the thing is, despite the rap that Victorians get for being prudish, none of those things were actually illegal. Not until the enlightened 20th century.
Throw in gun control as well.
I would actually blame giving women the right to vote for this. They were the drivers of the whole temperance movement - sure there were some male leaders of it, but most were church lady types.
Well, the problem was that prior to temperance, women's only avenue for effecting the political system was via church activism.
Although women weren't allowed to become priests, the fact that they stayed at home all day meant that women did most of the parish or church social organizing. And the way you rise to be the leader of the local church group is by being a fundamentalist prude.
It would be different, I guess if the "fraternal" groups like the Freemasons had let women become members.
Free Sports Bet and other similar websites allow people to bet after giving them "money" for watching ads. Somehow, this is legal, I suppose because people aren't risking anything.
Other than a flash virus...
Hillary's one of those less ideological, kind of pragmatic statists -- she doesn't give a shit how, but she wants CONTROL FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
I now have a reason for regulating the interwebz. Alan Grayson is running a political ad on reason. Beacuse FL doesnt have enough idiots in our Congressional delegation, we need to send him back to Congress?
What a selfish man. Florida's tourist participation would increase by 5 persons next year if I could watch Alan Grayson wrestle with an alligator.
As people increasingly turn to the internet to conduct important aspects of their lives, we have to make sure that human rights are as respected online as offline...
Guys, no boners (8----->) from now on.
Yes, Hilary, we should all control our own choices! Legalize drugs, prostitution, and gambling. Fight that fight, you dastardly hag, and I will join you. Hell, do that AND slip me $50 and I might even vote for you!
thanks
The United States also leads the way in restricting thoughts. I know of several people serving very long prison terms because they spoke up in defense of human rights for child lovers, and of course restrictions on related "entire categories of speech" are some of the most draconian in the world. Hillary Clinton also recently spoke movingly about the evil of persecuting people on account of who they love - but she remains one of the chief persecutors of people on account of who they love.
Perhaps she means well, but any sufficiently advanced stupidity is indistinguishable from evil.
"I know of several people serving very long prison terms because they spoke up in defense of human rights for child lovers"
Who? I don't believe you.
I agree with your point about Hillary's hypocrisy, though.
To "B" ... by "child lovers" you mean pedophiles? As a parent you expect me to cook you dinner at my table while you visit my child to "educate" her/him on how to play with your private parts & like it, and make it a school playground conversation with other underage kids on how coooool it is?
Say thanks to any government that they have a law restricting you on "loving" my kid, cause as a guest in my house or a sex tourist, I would be so happy to execute you on the spot, no laws involved!
I would be happy to be on jury at your trial, to ensure you were not convicted and, in fact, received damages from your victim's estate.
Oh, and fuck off B. If you're serious, please go die. If you're a troll trying to equate libertarianism with condoning abuse of people incapable of consent, please go die.
I can't speak for B, but I would like to ask what you mean by "people incapable of consent". Because too many people (even some who claim to be libertarians) are content to accept the government's totally baseless and arbitrary definition (i.e. 'age of consent').
@ Duke of Anarchy
Let's give a real gun to a 3 or 4 year old, shall we?
Now let's use it on passer-by & crowd ...
"Mom, it's so funny, the face they make when we shoot them!"
"I know little one, even better than video game"
Years later, why this little kid will either regret what he/she did or resent the adults who allowed it?
Maybe, 3 or 4 is not the ideal age of consent then, let's keep searching.
Let's now play with your private parts at 6? Is that ideal? Why many priest failed to "educate" their "victim" that it was & is great activity and fun at six?
Teenager maybe ....? Oh, unless they are already victims of something else (physical or mental abuse) you just won't convince them to keep steady while you are at it or attract them with your filthy teddy bear or sweets.
So should we assume that this age of consent has been as carefully calculated as your ability to go and buy your bread the morning without my 3 yr old giving you some legalized real gun toys in your private parts!
That is what successful society achieve for the anarchist, arbitrary laws!